I don't care which manufacturer, when you plug in the 7 pin, your trailer brakes should work, just set the gain.
@matthewgaines10
22 күн бұрын
If you plug in a trailer, the default assumption is you want to tow. They should at a minimum set the controller to turn on.
@guentherwilke2055
21 күн бұрын
Every decent aftermarket controller can detect when trailer brakes are connected. seems rather silly that isn't a basic function. Trailer brakes should also set the PCM to tow/haul.
@1stnamebunchofnumbers
21 күн бұрын
Agreed. That's odd it doesn't. My 3rd Gen Tundra does. Also odd it doesn't let you set any trailer types. They gave it a controller so they intend for you to be able to tow more than a super basic trailer.
@robertaston7256
22 күн бұрын
As an electrical engineer I have to say that it is quite trivial to make the vehicle able to detect whether or not the trailer you just plugged in has electric brakes wired to the connector. The vehicle should automatically detect the brakes and turn on the controller. Pretty insane that it is disabled from the factory.
@Mike-mi3yw
22 күн бұрын
I can’t wrap my head around all the plastic covers on the hitch. What the heck 😂
@rockets4kids
22 күн бұрын
Welcome to the world of modern car design.
@safwatabedin1950
22 күн бұрын
Its plastic so that if you hit it while off roading, you can easily replace it for cheap.
@cartopia6161
22 күн бұрын
One of the most frustrating things on modern SUVs that tow. It also looks terrible when you keep the cover off. Simplicity in design got thrown out the window.
@Mike-mi3yw
22 күн бұрын
@@user-do9ir8lv2m I’m a troll because I think it looks stupid 😂😂 more like I’m a consumer who thinks it looks stupid and is not practical
@guyintenn
22 күн бұрын
@@Mike-mi3yw Mike, @user-do9ir8lv2m is a Toyota bot. Just ignore them.
@gregkocher5352
22 күн бұрын
You weren't too harsh. Toyota should take some notes from this review. The plug placement is odd, the need to set up the brake controller is annoying and overly complex.
@user-do9ir8lv2m
22 күн бұрын
Yeah it was WAY to harsh, there is NOTHING wrong with this setup, troll
@ChristianPareATLAS
22 күн бұрын
@@user-do9ir8lv2m insulting people as usual bot. If you want people to understand you you need to use arguments not insults. Seriously Toyota complicated things instead of making things simpler recently like no bump stoppers. Anyone who understands off-roading knows you destroy your suspension without those and can get stranded in the middle of nowhere. Toyota used to be leaders now they go down for multiple mistakes. I don't want to buy a new 1 anymore literally
@Jay-me7gw
22 күн бұрын
The plug placement is not weird though. These don’t use a conventional bolt on hitch receiver, it’s built into the frames rearmost cross member. This blocks them from passing the wiring through the bumper and I’m sure they don’t want to hang it below. It’s the same as the 200 series cruiser
@guentherwilke2055
21 күн бұрын
@@Jay-me7gw It would easily fit under that bulbous hitch cover.
@Jay-me7gw
21 күн бұрын
@@guentherwilke2055 except it would have to pass through a metal beam that runs across the width of the frame. The whole rear bumper is just covering up a gigantic metal crossmember.
@coryrood
22 күн бұрын
Not too harsh, but if you are consistently towing, the LC wasn't the right vehicle to begin with.
@seansaxon641
22 күн бұрын
Toyota went from notoriously lacking in tech engineering in favor of reliability and ease of use to over engineered, unnecessary, and overly complicated.
@StardustADV
22 күн бұрын
Toyota took a page from the germans, over engineer everything. Working woth BMW to make the new Supra must have been a bad influence 😂
@Javelinjoe73
22 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@targa1659
22 күн бұрын
Hard to argue that.
@ianwatson3315
22 күн бұрын
And people complained about lack of tech..damed if they do damed if they don’t ,
@chrisdemas8246
22 күн бұрын
I find the 3rd gen Tacoma to have the perfect amount of tech for me. Don’t want turbo’s or a hybrid, just reliability, with Apple car play is really all I want.
@PROutdoors94
22 күн бұрын
As an owner of the new LC I must say I agree with the points in this video. Towing was clearly an afterthought on it. Thankfully I don’t really tow with mine so these issues aren’t that important to me but things like the simple-to-use software shown on the GM would been nice for them to add for the occasional times I do want to tow.
@andreww5773
22 күн бұрын
Towing is very obviously an after thought on this. Toyota knows Land Cruiser owners seldomly tow. That said, don't offer the hardware and features if you're just going to half a$$ it.
@grisa12345
22 күн бұрын
Land Cruiser owners tow plenty, and this is really just classic Toyota cheaping out on features, trying to get away with reliability only.
@ForeverDriven2121
22 күн бұрын
@grisa12345 "reliability" as their new engines grenade, axles and transmissions fail. This isn't new btw. People tend to forget all the issues toyota engines used to have with timing. Toyota "reliability" is largely a myth
@ForeverDriven2121
22 күн бұрын
@@user-do9ir8lv2m nice bot accounts
@craigroosa9321
22 күн бұрын
@@user-do9ir8lv2m They half as-ed it ! Gotta say !
@guentherwilke2055
21 күн бұрын
The 250 series Landcruiser is a global vehicle, and as a Prado its the go-to family hauler-tow rig.
@3rdpig
22 күн бұрын
That's poorly setup compared to their competition.
@MrBull-zc6xt
22 күн бұрын
That Land Cruiser is not worth the money.
@AmmarMalik
22 күн бұрын
Toyota finally updated their software and infotainment, so where they were about 20 years behind competition before, they are down to 10 now.
@Land_Raver
22 күн бұрын
And they will update it again in 15 years.
@brandonsailor5303
21 күн бұрын
We tow an Escape 19 camper with our LandCruiser. It weighs in about 4,000lbs. We just completed over 5,250 miles up the east coast into Canada including through some steep mountains. I’m not a huge fan of the 7-pin placement and I’d like a larger fuel tank to increase range. I also agree when you plug in your trailer the brake controller should at least pop up asking you for your trailer options. Otherwise though we loved towing with the LC. There’s a half plastic cover you can put on the hitch area that looks and functions well. I didn’t have any trouble with the tow hooks but they could be a littler easier to access. The torque and power were really nice, and stopping wasn’t an issue. The best feature is that we can use the 2,400 watt inverter to run our camping trailer when we don’t have hookups. We used it to run the AC a few times when it was a little warm. The truck was very comfortable for the trip and overall we really enjoyed it. Our mpg was anywhere from 9.9 mpg to 14mpg per tank. The LC may not be the perfect tow vehicle, but it does other things really well that make it a great vehicle to travel in, it surely doesn’t suck towing.
@matthewball9787
22 күн бұрын
Toyota tech is always been behind.
@user-do9ir8lv2m
22 күн бұрын
umm no it is not troll
@Land_Raver
22 күн бұрын
Only for the past 80 years. They'll get it one day.
@kenh8334
20 күн бұрын
@@user-do9ir8lv2mor should I say @ToyotaFanBoy ...stop lying for a corporation, you literal troll 😂
@tallboy49
22 күн бұрын
In Australia that vehicle is known as a Prado and essentially apart from looks and the addition of a heavy useless battery it is the same as the outgoing car.
@nicholassmith7048
22 күн бұрын
Spot on, Andre! Keep having high standards and highlighting vehicles that fall short.
@remembermorrison
22 күн бұрын
That tow plug setup is terrible. Right by the exhaust, yikes. I worry on a hot day driving, it could melt or degrade your trailer wiring.
@user-do9ir8lv2m
22 күн бұрын
Not going to happen
22 күн бұрын
It won't freeze in the winter! :)
@MrTeslaX
4 күн бұрын
Use a heat shield
@andrewshenton6541
22 күн бұрын
Video is great as usual but this was eye opening,can’t believe Toyota design team did that?appharently none of them towe,ever
@scotturich
21 күн бұрын
Andre takes pride in towing as he is the resident expert at TFL and he understands the limitations of a vehicle and never complains about towing tech so for him to say something in a video then it must of have been bad
@Cloud30000
22 күн бұрын
What is the benefit of leaving the trailer brake controller off? Weird that it defaults to off unless their is a specific benefit to having it off.
@kenh8334
20 күн бұрын
I wonder as well? We just had them on all the time in our older towing beasts, didn't know newer ones would turn off
@timgurr1876
22 күн бұрын
Your “Title” is a little misleading. Should have been about the “Trailering Software Features”. That said, it was an interesting overview/comparison.😊
@user-re1cv5ue1b
2 күн бұрын
I agree with this statement. Honestly for a person like me that might tow seldomly it's really a non issue. it seemed to do Ike ok. I am glad that they posted the video though to help people with configuring the trailer brakes
@danaberman6929
22 күн бұрын
I would never own such a complicated tow vehicle. My 2023 Ram Power Wagon makes towing my boat trailer and utility trailer a simple process to setup. You are spot on. Too many things to do in order to hook up a simple trailer..
@Dusdaddy
22 күн бұрын
I have a 2011 Ram and it's more complicated. They all evolve over time.
@chris43505
22 күн бұрын
Look at a same year ram 5500 with 6.7 high output. Don't look at the cab and chassis model. Only the passenger stander model. The ram 5500 would make the ram power wagon look like a chevy gas engine and force it to go seat on the bench lol 😆
@Cloud30000
22 күн бұрын
Tech, especially safety tech, isn’t a bad thing; being able to set custom trailer lengths to help indicate when someone is too close for you to change lanes is very convenient and helps prevent mistakes. However, the default state should be set up to act like older vehicles without any custom settings, so someone can just hook up and go like they did 10 years ago and it should behave the same as it did back then with no requirement to go into settings and fiddle with anything.
@appala
22 күн бұрын
LC is not a tow vehicle. No one buys a LC with towing as primary. If you need towing, get a truck or fullsize SUV.
@user-do9ir8lv2m
22 күн бұрын
You couldn't afford this far better vehicle anyhow
@Supercruiser66
22 күн бұрын
Land cruiser have never been setup to tow. This is the first model that actually comes with a factory brake controller.
@adamriale9065
22 күн бұрын
The Lexus gx470 however was. But it was a 120 series
@PatrickRich
22 күн бұрын
Toyota hasn't included brake controllers on anything until recently. Land Cruisers tow fine for their size.
@coryrood
22 күн бұрын
And in other countries, the 250 isn't setup to tow either.
@adamsmiths3016
22 күн бұрын
I know some guys in Australia that say otherwise. And they tow alot.
@catchawakeup6411
22 күн бұрын
Land Cruisers are over rated
@elainetanner178
16 күн бұрын
You are spot on with the critic. I personally like to have my trailer brake control on the right side and where my knee does not get taken off when getting in or out of the truck. That plug in, 7 pin, should automatically work in regard to your brake. Hum, I always walk around to make sure all the lights are working. Old habit and just an ounce of prevention.
@GoonieLord
21 күн бұрын
Whats the point of a massive plastic tab blocking the trailer hitch? That seems like a pain and will easily break over time
@AaronLuke-r9p
20 күн бұрын
MAN I’m glad we read the writing on the wall and switched to GM when prices and rates were good. Got a 2019 Yukon XL w/ 35k miles, heated and AC leather seats, 4WD, NA V8, simple 6 speed trans, all the tech you need, room for 8 *comfortably* and still has a monster trunk and 18mpgs. Lifted it on 33s, built the trans (fully warrantied for 3 years) and deleted the dreaded DOD/AFM for under $50k all in. Not to mention since it’s a GM truck, parts are a dime a dozen and found everywhere. Compare that to a $80k sequoia or LX with a new 10 speed behind an experimental boosted hybrid V6 project and it looks like a no brainer. Toyotas reckless abandon of reliability dropped them into the basement of top vehicles. The only thing they lead in now is hype and recalled motors..
@Apoplectic_Spock
22 күн бұрын
So glad I just went with a new Colorado 15 months ago and didn't bother waiting on these new Toyotas.
@MrTeslaX
4 күн бұрын
What’s the cost
@nicholassmith7048
22 күн бұрын
The US manufacturers are still the best regarding towing.
@Land_Raver
22 күн бұрын
By far. Nobody is towing on a daily basis with Toyotas. They get terrible MPGs unloaded, pulling a trailer with one costs a fortune.
@timsmothers8740
21 күн бұрын
Pearl Harbor !! Oh yeah You can finally name your trailer. After 3/hours/days of searching. You need to now have Tommy's 3rd Grandchild in the cab with you to be on top of the buried tech. Towing should be something that is easily accessed.
@avioncamper
21 күн бұрын
The placement of the 7 pin plug is so wrong. Activating the brake controller is too complicated...
@PorscheSpeedster-kz6nc
22 күн бұрын
Let’s hope Toyota listens to you comments and updates the user interface software screens to make towing brakes easier to access and store settings.
@timorr2399
22 күн бұрын
Spot on. If they are going to put a hitch and brake controller on it, it should be easily able to get to the hitch and hook-ups. Not covered by plastic (when removed looks like crap).
@Euryheli
22 күн бұрын
Just that bumper hitch cover alone would be enough to disqualify it for me. I use my hitch often enough that I'd either have to leave all that stuff off the back making my new expensive vehicle look bad, or go through all that every time until it eventually breaks or gets lost. Looks like the 4Runner gets a conventional hitch setup in the 6th gen, so it's the better choice for people like me.
@Jay-me7gw
22 күн бұрын
Do you want clearance or do you want ease of access. Thats the difference. My GX460 had a conventional bolt on receiver, but I hung down LOW. Even with a lift and 33’s it still sat quite a bit lower than my F150. My LX570 is setup like this and the receiver is higher up stock than my F150 was on 35’s. I actually had to buy a longer shank to get my hitch ball low enough for my trailer
@TonkaFire2019
22 күн бұрын
Remember the time when you just hooked your trailer up and set the trailer brake gain and that’s all? More money for what?
@Tallnerdyguy
22 күн бұрын
This was my dream vehicle... looks like a 4runner it is....
@googlename7141
21 күн бұрын
What keeps being amazing at Toyota is that complicated, non-invasive user interface AND bad quality cameras. Why in the word is that so?
@jacanadyful
Күн бұрын
My 1st edition came with the brake controller turned on so all I had to do was select the trailer brake and adjust the gain. I did go into settings on the main screen (in front of driver) just to see how to turn it on and off. I don't tow that many different trailers so not being able to recall a previous trailer isn't a problem for me. I currently tow a travel trailer with a dry weight of 3500 and a loaded weight of aprox. 4500.
@1stpaintballmaster
22 күн бұрын
What would the advantage of turning off the brake controller be? Seems to me a setting that makes no sense. You might be a little harsh. Most of your complaints have to do with hooking up not actually towing and while its a pain it's not going to kill you like a bad tow vehicle might.
@nicholassmith7048
22 күн бұрын
It's all part of the towing process.
@tedlulis973
20 күн бұрын
Toyota has never been known for getting any real work done
@GATORADDAM
22 күн бұрын
It was spot on. The new Toyotas aren't up to Toyota reputations!
@AgentSmith911
21 күн бұрын
So many manufacturers are failing on basic settings
@WW-wf8tu
22 күн бұрын
IMO, no Andre, your opinion is not too harsh. Why? Because it is your opinion. Which gives you free rein on what you think and feel about something. Cannot be wrong. Only argued pointlessly until you change your mind or you change someone else's. lol (or neither yield) You have strong/stubborn ideals that you want something the way you want them. (I won't tell you where that comes from lol) Not uncommon. At these prices on vehicles anymore, people have very high expectations on what the vehicle should include. I often agree with the advice and perspective that Tommy shares. However, he does not take his own advice. lol Not unusual either.
@estarszak
22 күн бұрын
SUV's and screens and homepages and all that jazz. In a solid truck you can just plug in the trailer, then drive and it works.
@andyharman3022
22 күн бұрын
I sense that Andrei is making this video for towing newbies, going through the basics of hooking up the towing hardware. Effing computers. Toyota makes it a scavenger hunt to enable the trailer brakes. Have to scroll through multiple levels of menus to get to the button to even turn it on, then you're still not done. What was ever wrong with the old Kelsey-Hayes controller screwed to the bottom of the dash? It was there, and the human didn't have to spend 5 minutes searching for the ON switch.
@malifestro3319
22 күн бұрын
I think if you hide the hitch you are ashamed of towing hehe
@rsdaarud
21 күн бұрын
Toyota seems to be cutting corners in quality with trailer towing as the most recent example. Come on, Toyota Motor Company!
@garthhowe297
22 күн бұрын
Next week, Honda Accord towing sucks! C'mon, the Toyota was designed to include towing if needed, but the pickups have towing as a primary design goal. GM's system is slick, and Toyota should be taking notes.
@funnykenji
17 күн бұрын
I have been observing the trend of the vehicle infotainment role in the newer vehicles; one thing great about many of the older cars is that you can always upgrade the center head unit to the modern standard. The head unit is only responsible for non-vehicle functions; when manufacturers start tying more things like customizing the vehicle characteristic to the head unit, futureproofing becomes challenging because you need to decode the signal between the head unit and the car computers. Looking at this head unit by our current standards, it feels like Toyota should have tied more things into this screen so that it is easier for the driver to make changes on the go instead of navigating from the instrument cluster. However, this design choice may have helped improve the longevity and upgradability of the vehicle's technology in the long run.
@guyjordan8201
21 күн бұрын
As noted by others, Toyota went from boring but reliable to boy racer and fragile. Large touchscreens are a tragedy. To use them you must be distracted from driving so they are at once an accident waiting to happen - and a ticket waiting for you to receive. Aesthetic aside, if they would stop adding a feature until it is bulletproof, I’d be happier.
@fragginyou
22 күн бұрын
Seems like they made it intentionally hard to tow anything with that vehicle
@highpro1394
22 күн бұрын
Tow haul mode has always been its own button. Got the same button in my 2020 tundra
@TheTide1996
22 күн бұрын
Make the hitch cover like the new Tahoe or Expedition with easy to remove thumb tabs. Yes the brake controller should come on automatically. Also It should be easier to sort through menu to find the trailer control settings. Yes this is a lifestyle vehicle, more than likely you didn’t purchase it for its trailering capabilities. Oh and move the 7 and 4 pin to an easier location. Basically this vehicle is made for the occasional tow.
@brianh5393
13 күн бұрын
You nailed it! I have a 200 series Landcruiser, and some of the issues you spoke of are a carrieover. The plastic cover is also on the 200 series. The wiring connector is in the same spot, but the exhaust is on the other side. I have a tow haul button near the shifter. However, the 200 series didn't come with a trailer brake controller. It's shocking that Toyota is so far behind the competition in this comparison. I tow thousands of miles a year pulling an off-road trailer. If the new Landcruiser could out perform my 200 series or possibly the competition, I would buy buy it. Sadly, it looks good but fails at almost everything else.
@exparrot9074
19 күн бұрын
Oof. The LC has been at the top of my list, but it would be replacing my F150 and end up towing regularly as a result, these details would really make that experience suck. I suppose once you turn the TBC on it's not as bad as it appears that setting gets saved, but that hitch seems annoying and the camera placement could be problematic. Hopefully there is an aftermarket solution for the hitch trim.
@disophisis
22 күн бұрын
May as well buy a bag of body pins for when those ones on the hitch cover bust off instantly.
@roberthahn3710
22 күн бұрын
I don’t tow much so not a problem. If was going to tow I would just use a pickup truck.
@MerlinspopTBH
22 күн бұрын
Towing was clearly far down the list of expected uses of this vehicle. That said, this trend of hiding hitches behind an obnoxious codpiece needs to stop. Then the plug wouldn’t be hidden either. Despite the covers, I’d keep those things well greased with dielectric grease. I’m looking to buy one, but my towing would likely be limited to taking a small utility trailer to the dump a few times a year, so it wouldn’t bother me. If I was an avid camper, the annoyance factor would be much higher.
@hommedammn7132
22 күн бұрын
Toyota engineers really half-assed the physical towing ergonomics, design, and execution. The Toyota system user interface is clumsy and not intuitive. For the money Toyota charges for their vehicles, they should be embarrassed for their lack of thought.
@MrTonaluv
22 күн бұрын
They should be but they sell so many vehicles worldwide that they don't care. They are no. 1 and customers just gotta suck it up
@TrinomCZ
22 күн бұрын
It looks like, the trailer controller is an afterthought. The rest of the world don't use them, so maybe that's the reason. We are used to use surge brakes, which don't need any controller at all. The same goes for Japan. For example, in Europe, electric trailer brakes are not even legal.
@marcelo403polo2
22 күн бұрын
electric brakes is best thing ever for those trailers. Sorry, but surge brakes are crap
@Jay-me7gw
22 күн бұрын
Surge brakes kinda suck. The trailer has to push the tow vehicle to engage them. It has to push the TV harder to engage the trailer brakes more. Also, that’s not necessarily true because one of the most popular brake controllers for Toyota’s, Redarc, is out of Australia.
@rockets4kids
22 күн бұрын
Talk about over-complicating a simple job.
@AlaskaErik
22 күн бұрын
Chevy/GMC are awesome for towing. I don't know if the Canyon has it, but on the 1500 and up you can monitor trailer tire pressure and temperature with the onboard trailer tire TPMS. It shows up on the right side split screen on the newer trucks. There is also hitch guidance when backing up, a downward looking view as you approach the trailer hitch and the parking brake sets automatically when you put it in Park. It's the lack of things like this that cause me to automatically eliminate Toyota from consideration. Not to mention, the Tundra doesn't even have Auto 4WD 25 years after GM first came out with it. I'll leave Toyota to those who aren't serious about towing.
@drnick40
19 күн бұрын
This is clearly the Land Cruiser we used to know and like.
@edwardbutera1362
19 күн бұрын
8:03 That seems convoluted; one could reasonably expect that the brake controller would automatically turn on when a trailer is connected or that it wouldn’t even have an “off” setting. In fairness: it’s nice that it remembers that seeing and keeps it.
@owenherndon64
14 күн бұрын
Not too harsh considering the price point of these things. Its a midsize suv that dealerships are selling for around 80k after you factor in mark ups.
@jguil4d
20 күн бұрын
Frankly, I don’t think it was harsh enough. A lot of what’s wrong is fixable in following years, and some of the software stuff should be fixable with updates to the entire fleet. But some of it should have been caught during testing. It really should have only taken someone one time to figure out how terrible the plug location is, and the fact that no one in their design team said anything like “hey, putting this plug near the exhaust is unpleasant and we should move it” is worrying.
@verlaryder
22 күн бұрын
I liked the review because I am a newbie and appreciated Andre showing the basics of hooking up.
@PatrickRich
22 күн бұрын
I tried to use the brake controller on the pre-production GX550 and I had problems with the brake controller and I had the brake setting set correctly. I think the preproduction models had some software that wasn't complete. I would guess that it wont be a problem (minus hidden controls) in production models.
@321thach
22 күн бұрын
This LandCruiser has more Torque than the Ram 3500 6.4 Hemi but the LandCruiser are not build for towing heavy duty flatbed
@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806
18 күн бұрын
The HEMI 6.4 is built for durability under hard commercial use...not like this 2.4 I4. In fact, even the 6.0 L96 Vortec is better in the durability dept...
@krokatoamonster7365
22 күн бұрын
Good episode. I've started to see some of these new land cruisers in my area and frankly, most of them are just grocery and kid haulers. I'm looking out for the new 4runners, perhaps in a few years. Right now, everything is just too expensive.
@MJ-fj9yv
20 күн бұрын
Old Land Cruiser, take it anywhere adventure. Modern Land Cruiser, perfect for home bodies with remote jobs.
@marcelmadaire9056
22 күн бұрын
The setup should be much easier and user friendly. But if you tow a lot maybe a LC should not be your first choice
@johncaruana6406
22 күн бұрын
Seems like the towing system was designed by people who don’t tow. Andre, maybe you could be a consultant to them and improve their product.
@Jay-me7gw
22 күн бұрын
Or for people who have other priorities besides just towing. If I am going to tow my travel trailer out into the desert and then offroad my Land Cruiser, I want that hitch tucked up as high as possible out of the way. I’ll deal with the slight inconvenience of the cover and plug location.
@johnkoko
22 күн бұрын
Can you do a video to explain how to set gain properly? I wanted the new Land cruiser in a bad way. I'm just disappointed with it's MPG and now the towing. I'll stick with my F-150 powerboost and it's 21.5 mpg. Although towing, 4200lbs in the White Mountains I only averaged 11.8.
@LeesChannel
21 күн бұрын
The menu and the layout is so terrible. Why do you have to dive through hidden menus on your dash, why can't it be on the main display, the touchscreen? That, the haphazard arrangement of the actual tow mode and brake controller controls, and the cumbersome hitch design, show very clearly that this is not really meant for towing, regardless of whatever the actual performance may or may not be.
@Jay-me7gw
21 күн бұрын
All of the physical issues with this LC are nothing new for Toyota SUV's. I had a GX460 and now an LX570 and this is all par for the course. The GX460 5000 lb receiver is tucked up much like this and the 7 pin connector is up behind the bumper. The full size 6500 lb receiver is more conventional in that it bolts on to the frame rails like a normal hitch, and the 7 pin connector is relocated down to the receiver once you do that, but the receiver hangs insanely low and the connector becomes vulnerable offroad. I smoked the 7 pin connector in Moab and my receiver was used as a skid plate many many times because of how low it sat. In order to tow my trailer with the GX460, I had to flip my shank to turn it into a riser because of how much lower the receiver was than my F150 even with 33's and a 1.5" lift. The LX570, and this LC, have the receiver mounted up much higher and it makes for way more clearance offroad. But we have to remember these trucks only have 112" wheelbase, which is shorter than many sedans, and they are trying to stuff a lot of content into a relatively small vehicle. The depth of the receiver will be a problem. I had to cut the shank down on my hitch to allow it to fully slide into my LX570 receiver without hitting the spare tire. But, the receiver is also mounted really high and even my stock LX needed the shank setup with the hitch in the lowest setting to hook up to my trailer, unlike hte GX460. The receiver on my stock LX was higher than my F150 on 35's. Once I put 35's on my LX I had buy a longer shank because the one I had wasn't long enough to drop the ball down low enough for my trailer. So there are benefits to this setup, clearance for offroading being the main one. If you want to offroad, and tow a trailer, then the LX, GX, LC, etc make for a great all around rig but obviously you will have to sacrifice in some areas for it to be good a both.
@RonaldSample
22 күн бұрын
This video summed up: andre complains for 18 minutes
@zakzwijn8410
22 күн бұрын
Would you believe in my country this Land Cruiser costs $200.000?
@Elessar762
7 күн бұрын
thoughts on the Land Cruiser's ~1,100 of payload? Seems a bit thin especially if you tow.
@richshaffer985
22 күн бұрын
You are correct-the Land Cruiser sucks at towing. Having to remove TWO hitch covers is a needless pain and the plug placement is equally stupid. That being said, towing is probably NOT the primary reason anyone would buy a Land Cruiser so it may not be a deal breaker.
@garthhowe297
22 күн бұрын
I would guess anyone who regularly tows would toss those plastic pieces. Nothing like hiding an "ugly" tow hitch, with ugly plastic. Lol
@Tallnerdyguy
22 күн бұрын
I have a boat I use 1-2x per month, but this is still a pita
@Jay-me7gw
22 күн бұрын
The person is probably concerned about offroading and so Having the receiver built into the rear frame crossmember for higher clearance is important. It’s setup exactly the same with the 200 series.
@georgecrothall9411
22 күн бұрын
Excellent video! I would never have found the in the Landcruiser menu. I continue to be impressed with the Colorado. For folks new to towing or occasional tow’ers the checklist in the Chevy is great. Question for the UX folks..are they putting those on the left thinking we need the right hand on the wheel as something happens. Curious about their logic. I like a trailer brake controller to be in my peripheral vision and not block by the steering wheel. RAM wins that one. Still I am with the Chevy overall.
@milesb4231
11 күн бұрын
My RAM Rebel trailer light check has **never** worked - I have had an open ticket for nearly a year now. Does it work for you?
@davids7396
22 күн бұрын
Just FYI… toyota ALWAYS puts the important settings in the screen by the driver or main screen, because they know this cars would be mod and probable the audio system would be replaced so, you dont loose access to it when you do… Prado owner here
@Youtubeuser1aa
22 күн бұрын
Nobody replaces center console electronics these days. It’s not a head unit.
@EdChappelle
22 күн бұрын
yup you nailed it - Toyota muffed it
@kennak476
22 күн бұрын
Toyota should have it setup so that as soon as u plug in the connector and maybe pump the brakes, it should automatically detect a trailer then go to the setup menu for a first time but then remember it. To have to search thru 3 layers of menu to setup your trailer is ridiculous for a $60K SUV!
@dansievers5915
22 күн бұрын
Great video, Andre. But, holy s..., hooking up a trailer just sucks!!! Who ever came up with that idea should be fired.
@browndogstt8546
22 күн бұрын
Crazy how much towing tech has changed. A few years ago you were excited if the vehicle had a brake controller from the factory. 😂😂😂
@jeffwarnerPHOTOcom
22 күн бұрын
OK, everything you are talking about are in/conveniences with regard to towing, not actually towing. You've shown you now understand how to access the system, and admittedly the software is not the greatest. However, compared to the 4Runner, just having a brake controller and tow/haul mode is a win. You guys demonstrated that it actually performed quite well on the Ike, arguably better than the GX550 with regard to towing near each's weight limit. Here you compared it against two vehicles that are arguably tow vehicles, in comparison. Perhaps not too harsh on the conveniences/software side, but it doesn't make it a bad tow vehicle. The 5th Gen 4Runner is a poor tow vehicle, and the new LC is far, far better.
@kurtburkhardt5862
22 күн бұрын
The trailer and tow haul mode setup is more complicated and less user friendly than it should be. Is the 4Runner set up the same way? How is the actual towing? I like the idea that it is all from the factory, if it is a pain then less functional. We have a 5th gen with an aftermarket trailer brake controller. It works well and has multiple trailer settings. You would think Toyota would know better.
@aIIan_p
22 күн бұрын
wish my sierra had “use accessory / no trailer” in the automatic tow mode menu. can’t plug anything into the 7 pin without going into tow mode.
@zelenizub2036
21 күн бұрын
It's 4 cylinder minivan why even talk towing. No payload or towing capacity to speak of.😴
@Jay-me7gw
21 күн бұрын
🤡
@JDC129
13 күн бұрын
Good lord. Life was better when you could just back your vehicle up to your trailer, hook it up and go. It’s like the Federal Government designed this Toyota towing setup.
@robertyoung8289
22 күн бұрын
Thats Toyota's way of trying to get you not to tow with that thing. They know their truck line up is pethetic now.
@SaltyDog69
22 күн бұрын
Spot on with the review.
22 күн бұрын
It could be more user friendly which would eliminate the learning curve but it does work and the next time it will be easy. Not a big deal in my opinion.
@Jay-me7gw
22 күн бұрын
It’s not. My LX570 is setup almost exactly the same and it’s really not a big deal.
@olsmxl6975
22 күн бұрын
If the engineers never tow anything they have no frame of reference to know how to design the software for ease of use. This was designed in a cubicle…
@jimronchetto8592
22 күн бұрын
I have been considering this vehicle and would use it to tow my SXS. It is no longer under consideration. That cover is annoying to have to deal with every time I would tow. Also, it is too ugly to leave off.
@AddingLifeAdventure
22 күн бұрын
Spot on. Thanks for the information, Andre.
@waynehorner8042
12 күн бұрын
Can you all do a video on a rental trailer? Most people don't own a trailer. All the same things you do already, it would be very helpful. Also, rental trailers don't have electric brakes serge brakes. I found out that the person renting you the trailer doesn't know anything about trailering. All they know is what the computer screen tells them. Andre help us out.
@showmemorefunthings9208
22 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video! I was wondering if you all had figured out how the trailer brake controller worked on the LC. I am thinking of getting one soon and this video helps explain how it operates but Toyota does make it difficult to like with some of its decisions.
@mikedaniels6360
22 күн бұрын
Not to harsh to say you are disappointed in the way Toyota set this up. I have a 2018 expedition and it has been a great tow vehicle for the boat and easy to set up. Even has a setting for trailer blind spot monitoring
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