This series is just mind blowing. This episode is my favorite yet.
@flickedbic
3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Great episode, thank you.
@RickB500
3 жыл бұрын
5th possibility. Fine tuning implies the idea, that something is tuned. 2 possiblities: 1st someone or something tuned it, 2nd, its tuning itself, like self organisation of life. Not that universe is a living creature, but its structure may be similar. There must be some feedback loops in the early universe, that were stable, and earlier universes, that where not. So I need no multiple universes at the same time, but in endless times before.
@datsexychris07
3 жыл бұрын
All I know is that he better not stop making these sort of videos. Interesting isn’t the word love getting the knowledge from different point of views .. I’m a happy subscriber from ALABAMA
@francesco5581
3 жыл бұрын
This video should be shown in every school
@gowdsake7103
3 жыл бұрын
Why ? to make education a joke ? Ohh your a creationist right ?
@francesco5581
3 жыл бұрын
@@gowdsake7103 no, because it shows how unique is what we have the privilege to live , independently of the cause
@ferdinandkraft857
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, teacher, leave the kids alone!
@francesco5581
3 жыл бұрын
@@ferdinandkraft857 "the perfect tuning" is something 99% of people arent aware of. And yet 99% of scientists agree on that. Also it have both a materialist and a spiritual answer . To every school ...now !!
@ferdinandkraft857
3 жыл бұрын
@@francesco5581 Kids should be encouraged to look for answers by themselves.
@peterstanbury3833
Жыл бұрын
The problem with resorting to the multiverse to explain life is that it assumes life is THE most complex thing that could arise out of the gazillions of variants. However, with so many variants ( last I heard it was 10^500 ) you get the bizarre situation where there'd almost certainly be numerous phenomenon even more amazing and inexplicable than life to have to explain away. The problem doesn't go away...it actually gets compounded by the multiverse.
@cps_Zen_Run
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is just like the mud puddle saying, “look how perfect this hole fits me. Perfectly designed by my Creator. “
@SpittinSquirell
3 жыл бұрын
Got em
@garythibault8032
3 жыл бұрын
Short and to the point...too bad they don't get it.
@golden-63
3 жыл бұрын
*That's not what fine tuning is. It means if the physical constants were even slightly different, not only would there be no life, there would be no galaxies, stars, planets, or even matter itself. Life would not even be possible.*
@golden-63
3 жыл бұрын
@@garythibault8032 *That's not what fine tuning is. It means if the physical constants were even slightly different, not only would there be no life, there would be no galaxies, stars, planets, or even matter itself. Life would not even be possible.*
@garythibault8032
3 жыл бұрын
@@golden-63 well said, the explanation is spot on. The mud puddle metaphor is just referring to the tendency of humans to assign what can't be readily understood to a "Creator".
@tedgrant2
3 жыл бұрын
"Lord, We are having trouble with pi. We think it should be more than 3 but less than 4" "But Gabriel, I am the creator of this universe and I want pi to be a nice round number". "We tried 3 and 4 Lord, but with each of those values, the hydrogen atom is unstable". "Gabriel, you must be having a laugh. Nothing is impossible for me !" (Luke 1:37).
@garybala000
3 жыл бұрын
From mathematician to philosopher to cosmologist to poet, we all seem to agree that this universe exhibits an unimaginably precise tuning of constants and parameters. Fred Hoyle once commented that it all “looks like a fix.” It’s either an intentional fix (Supreme source) or random fix (multiverse). However such a random fix or multiverse would need a multiverse-generator, mechanism or theory. Thus, we are led back to an Ultimate source. The issue then is: is this ultimate source a life, a mind, a thing, a force or a law or something else beyond our comprehension?
@jennifer97363
3 жыл бұрын
I am amused by the audacious claims of the religious, that they comprehend the answer to that most magnificent of questions. Our primitive cognition will never furnish us with the answer. Just enjoy the circus ride, it’s over before you know it.
@garybala000
3 жыл бұрын
@@jennifer97363 Sorry to disappoint. But I’m not a religious person. (If that is what someone is suggesting.) Just using common “horse sense”. And by the way, anyone’s comments on a KZitem video are only that: comments, suggestions, thoughts, postulations, theories. (Forgive humans for trying, but it’s what intellectually curious and probing creatures do.) No one “knows” all or the ultimate answers, nor should (or rarely) does anyone reasonable insist they “know” such. So just chill, take it all in stride, think, play, have fun and ice up a cold one (or hot one depending on your taste). And “Row your boat . . . Life is but a Dream.”
@ahmedzaidazam
3 жыл бұрын
I like that he saved Penrose as the last one
@psyseraphim
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah because it basically destroys everything that came before it 😂.
@golden-63
3 жыл бұрын
*""Fine Tuning" does NOT means the universe is ideal for life. If one of the physical constants were even slightly different, there would be no galaxies, no stars, no planets, not even matter itself. Life would not be possible. Fine tuning is something of a mystery to scientists because the odds of the physical constants being what they are are so incomprehensibly small, that chance seems unlikely unless there are many universes.*
@Dion_Mustard
3 жыл бұрын
multi-verse theory is growing in strength.
@golden-63
3 жыл бұрын
@@Dion_Mustard Seems like a logical explanation.
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
Someonr, i think susskind posit that there are dark holes all over the place and they connect like tunnels between parallel univ9erses.
@patientson
Жыл бұрын
I love this gentleman's description of being.
@stevemartin6267
11 ай бұрын
I am learning so much. Thank you for these thought provoking interviews.
@TupacMakaveli1996
3 жыл бұрын
Loving these
@vjnt1star
3 жыл бұрын
why nobody asks seriously "could the universe have been better tuned for life?"
@inOZ8434
3 жыл бұрын
It's flawed from the beginning
@ayoubzahiri1918
3 жыл бұрын
but the process of 'evolution' is happening right now, it's the basis of every action and choice we make,in other words, the mission to sublimate life is in our hands as we are are product of the universe/god therefore we are in essence THAT!
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@kallianpublico7517
3 жыл бұрын
Is ignorance the absence of knowledge or the presence of knowledge. I contend ignorance is the presence of knowledge: that knowledge explicitly makes us ignorant of certain things. Knowledge is what ignorance uses to hide itself. It is hiding self- creation from the created. This conversation about fine-tuning is really about this intuition about self-creation. As created beings we play our role. If we were to "own" our souls we could adjust our role.
@HR-op2cq
3 жыл бұрын
Same question differently phrased.. I'm caught in a mind loop... Help! You all know know that Lawrence is not really interested to get to the truth... If he does, how's he gonna make a living??
@kevanhubbard9673
3 жыл бұрын
I always find it interesting that rather esoteric stuff like this is interspersed with advertisements for planet destroying cars and football ⚽!
@theliamofella
3 жыл бұрын
The problem with many physicists reluctancy to consider a creator as the reason for this universe is that they seem to think about that as meaning a biblical kind of god or a god that cares about human beings, but there could be (in my way of thinking) a creator that is far beyond our understanding and could be completely benevolent towards us human beings and could even be a kind of technological creation or god could be many different things that we could be a part of or we could be irrelevant to
@josephshawa
3 жыл бұрын
What able-bodied god would spend such talent and valuable TIME!! on such a simple thing as us?
@theliamofella
3 жыл бұрын
@@josephshawa i don’t know but it might not be anything that makes sense to our human nature
@josephshawa
3 жыл бұрын
@@theliamofella I would have to say this separation of intellect would be much beyond the difference between a little girl and her doll. Even little girls get tired of playing with their dolls
@ishikawa1338
2 жыл бұрын
@@josephshawa but earth is much more interesting of a show to watch when there are billions of me running around like wtf is going on.. it could just be entertainment but with a cause and purpose
@josephshawa
2 жыл бұрын
@@theliamofella Oh. " I don't understand, so it must be right." Boo oo
@jazzfish1437
3 жыл бұрын
Universe was born like a seed from a tree in a forest, our universe is a species or type, other trees make other types.
@georgeherbert88999
3 жыл бұрын
how would you know?
@georgemiller151
3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that there are no other trees. Other universes don’t generate complexity.
@footspike55
3 жыл бұрын
Also there is zero evidence for other universes existing in the first place
This one infinite universe is not big enough for them that they need multiple universes. We can't even fathom the mysteries our our universe, the origin of life and our own consciousness.
@ishikawa1338
2 жыл бұрын
Let alone the ocean or deepest forest and jungles
@richardrichards9180
3 жыл бұрын
Problem here is trying to interpret a system as if we are an independent external entity objectively observing when we are an intrinsic part of it,created by it. Scientific thought says how can it be that everything is just right for us to come to exist out of randomness-the alternative,of course,is that the purpose of the universe itself is to create us,so how could it then be otherwise?
@mountainjay
3 жыл бұрын
Let's see.... 1) multiverse is a deductive argument arising from the need to explain something that exists but cannot exist by chance ✔️ 2) multiverse argument cannot be tested ✔️. What does the remind you of?
@ezbody
3 жыл бұрын
Multiverse was proposed before fine-tuning was discovered, but nice attempt in trying, once again, to project on the scientists your own theistic motivations.
@mountainjay
3 жыл бұрын
@@ezbodythe multiverse argument is not falsifiable, you're quite the theologian.
@heteroclitus
3 жыл бұрын
The Multiverse is a hypothesis. No-one is asserting it as unassailable fact and putting the unbelievers to death.
@MNanme1z4xs
3 жыл бұрын
Its fine tuned for empty space
@psyseraphim
3 жыл бұрын
Or blackholes
@ferdinandkraft857
3 жыл бұрын
Empty space doesn't need quantum fields. Black holes don't need chemistry.
@psyseraphim
3 жыл бұрын
My cats breath smells like cat food.
@esecallum
3 жыл бұрын
ACTUALLY EVOLVES TO FIT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE EXISTING PHYSICAL LAWS AND UNIVERSAL CONSTANTS.
@ramaraksha01
3 жыл бұрын
This is silly - it is like asking how my dad/mom looks exactly like me It is the reverse - we are here because the universe, this earth kept certain conditions - water, warmth, a stable earth etc We change when conditions change When food is scarce as in some islands, we get small animals - animals reduce their size so then they can have the food they need In dark caves where sunlight does not reach animals have lost their skin color and have lost their eyesight - both are not needed, so they are gone If the universe was different as they in a multi-universe, then WE would be different so as to suit the laws of that other universe
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
Read James Lovelocks Gaia Theory about earth as a living organism. Written in 1970.
@ALavin-en1kr
7 ай бұрын
If it is all random without a mind behind it, it is nothing short of a miracle.
@richardnelson4112
2 жыл бұрын
The answer is yes and no. Life and mind as we know it, is a product of the universe for the way it is. If it was tuned differently, the result would be a product that is a consequence of that different tuning. What that means is that there could easily be an endless way for life and mind to exist. You have to look outside the box and not only in the box.
@roberttulba6990
3 ай бұрын
I am admittedly perplexed by the postulation of a multiverse. Time, space and matter are what our universe is composed of. How could we possibly have any idea of the composition or properties of another universe, or that we even have the ability to detect it, or the language to describe it?
@judithbreastsler
3 жыл бұрын
Kuhn is an exceptional human being; not that that is saying a lot, as on the whole, humanity is a blight on the cosmos.
@mindfulskills
3 жыл бұрын
The fine-tuning argument isn't particularly compelling to me simply because we co-evolved with the universe. The universe and we "inter-are." That is why we are so intricately suited to each other. We can even make the argument (and many traditions such as Buddhism do) that we are the universe, and the universe is us. If the universe and its laws were different, we would be different too.
@LoraxChannel
3 жыл бұрын
Lol what? We aren't the universe. No one argues that the universe evolved: it's a theory applied to biology.
@ishikawa1338
2 жыл бұрын
@@LoraxChannel yeah we are. Do u think I exist outside of the universe and earth isn’t part of it.. only in your ego and mind do you exist outside of it because you live in a box work ina. Box for flat boxes to buy things in boxes while u drive around in a box..
@jamesrey3221
3 жыл бұрын
There a lot of things we do not know and will never know, scientist and philosophers will continue to form hypothesis and speculation until the end of time. 1> rare earth/the universe, 2> life from non-life, 3> One specie (man) with consciousness (to build his science and civilization) out of the approximately 50 billion species on Earth, only humans evolved intelligence
@kw6409
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing episode
@jeffo3455
3 жыл бұрын
How is the multiverse idea not a "god of the gaps" argument?
@SpittinSquirell
3 жыл бұрын
It's many scientists "creation" theory. I dont know why multiverse is pushed so hard. For people so obsessed with facts and testable theories this one baffles me. Also as far as we know we are the only life in the universe and the vast majority of the universe is a dead vacuum how is that fine tuned?
@cps_Zen_Run
3 жыл бұрын
I believe it arose from string theory. But those in the field should answer. They don’t necessarily need to be parallel. Think of each universe as a small bubble in a huge cosmos.
@AkoSiFrance
3 жыл бұрын
The multiverse is not yet proven. So, basically we really dont know yet.
@ajhieb
3 жыл бұрын
"God of the gaps" is a particular flavor of the argument from ignorance fallacy that is applied when the asserted "plug" for our gap in knowledge is "God did it." The multiverse hypothesis could be similarly fallacious if asserted as fact, however I'm not aware of any scientists making such claims.
@pausenponder7506
3 жыл бұрын
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@julianmann6172
3 жыл бұрын
It is a shame you have nothing constructive to say, rather indicative of your state of mind
@spiegelburg
3 жыл бұрын
Agree, the "fundamental theory" is rejected even though we have no clue if there is one or not. I think talking about probability and statistics is just wrong when it comes to natural constants because we have no other universes available for measurement. Way to much hype and allusion to a "creator" here.
@6Twisted
Жыл бұрын
I've always believed in the multiverse and that we're only able to wonder about the fine tuning of our universe because it's habitable in the first place. I believe there's many many times more dead universes. But then again even if there is a multiverse why would they all have different constants in the first place.
@fjgiie
9 ай бұрын
Why are the constants the same in different size universes? All the same all the time same same same. Why not different. There would need to be a god. Different gods? Yeah !
@Dion_Mustard
3 жыл бұрын
The key is consciousness...it's like the Q..what came first the chicken or the egg... If we discover consciousness created matter, so to speak, then we are pretty much talking about a universe(s) which has a "designer" behind it..
@cps_Zen_Run
3 жыл бұрын
Egg came first via reptiles.
@Dion_Mustard
3 жыл бұрын
@@cps_Zen_Run and how did the reptile emerge ;)
@cps_Zen_Run
3 жыл бұрын
@@Dion_Mustard amphibians. Perhaps it’s easier to refer to a good textbook on evolution.
@Dion_Mustard
3 жыл бұрын
@@cps_Zen_Run evolution does not explain the universe.
@Dion_Mustard
3 жыл бұрын
@@cps_Zen_Run plus evolution does NOT explain consciousness. no textbook can inform me of that. so shove your materialist text book up your arse...:)
@drmindriot
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing content, thank you.
@dyingempty1844
2 жыл бұрын
If this knife edge produces witnesses to admire it, then it is plausible to infer that if other knife edges do exist, they should produce lifeforms with the capacity to do the same thing as we are doing right now. As, it would seem that knife edges love to be praised.
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
And creatures with se nse organs to appreciat the whole mess.
@satyamevjayate6360
3 жыл бұрын
If it is so fine tuned, does that mean every thought, deed is also? Does that mean whatever we understand about nature was also fine tuned beforehand? Does fine tuning mean determinism?
@satyamevjayate6360
3 жыл бұрын
@@psuedonym8344 I got your point. I or you or anyone else cannot understand it by ourselves, it should happen only as it has already been fine tuned, perhaps through one of us, but ultimately it's all universe alone causing it or to say it was fine tuned.
@satyamevjayate6360
3 жыл бұрын
@@psuedonym8344 perfect. Whatever we call it,universe or nature, it includes everything, including us, every event etc.
@neffetSnnamremmiZ
3 жыл бұрын
At least it's my structure, you can not take something out, the whole universe is neccesary, that I can be. Life is organizing and realizing itself even with external things like comet-impacts or orbit-shifting, what ever, is all about to organize itself! 🌱
@squatch545
3 жыл бұрын
The universe is fine tuned for my flatulence.
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
No, beans are
@idrearamacirmtamta1293
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry you have it backwards. Consciousness is fundamental. Life followed.
@Dion_Mustard
3 жыл бұрын
i agree.
@everybodyb3cool836
3 жыл бұрын
Consciousness is a bit like a roof top. It is, is some relevant context, the most important part of the house but as the saying goes... you can't build a house from the roof top.
@psyseraphim
3 жыл бұрын
Please demonstrate a disembodied conciousness. Any conciousness absent a brain/central nervous system.
@PatrickRyan147
3 жыл бұрын
Consciousness IS fundamental. I couldn't agree more. What's more is our consciousnesses are holographically projected onto our bodies.. which means.. our souls are computer programs.. which means our original species found a way to live forever by uploading our / their consciousnesses into Eternal Computers.. Where are the Eternal Computers? In the main reality. This reality is a sub-reality of the main reality.
@Dion_Mustard
3 жыл бұрын
@@psyseraphim look up Pam Reynolds. Also, read Pim Van Lommel Consciousness Beyond Life. Now go away.
@bajajones5093
3 жыл бұрын
good show!
@thenephilim9819
3 жыл бұрын
Something went wrong... There was some video between the ads, guys 😳
@polsick
3 жыл бұрын
Use KZitem Vanced app. No ads at all.
@dondattaford5593
Жыл бұрын
It's fine tuned for the observer your existence is what I observe and when I collapse it you don't exist
@PATRICKJLM
3 жыл бұрын
We don't have indication or clue about the Multiverse hypothesis. And by the way, "hypothesis" is the word scientists use for "speculation". The Multiverse Hypothesis created just to counter the unbelievable, yet true, Fine Tuning of the Universe.
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
I had gotten to the question "is thereca life force?" that causes all the molecular structures to line up to cause and support life. Eg. How do proteins line up to allow DNA etc. Ive seen mictobiologists ralk on thia.
@user-ei1ym1lq6h
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, life is a framework. It all starts from a Universe that doesn't really exist, gas spontaneously appears, big explosion in the center, creates a galaxy, stars burn, create solid matter, planets eventually form, cool and form an atmosphere with liquid ocean. Life is part of the end of that process.
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
Im working this info into my theory on there being a life force rhar arranges everthing into a life generating and supporting system.
@tedgrant2
Жыл бұрын
I think there is an unwarranted extension here. There are some places that are suitable for life. But most places in the universe are not suitable for life.
@fjgiie
9 ай бұрын
Everywhere in Our World will kill you. 99.9999999999999999999% times a trillion will kill you. There are not many earths. Stars are hot, space is cold.
@PatrickRyan147
3 жыл бұрын
The question should be; was our reality organically fine-tuned for life (big bang scenario) OR was it manually fine-tuned (holodeck scenario)⁉️
@LoraxChannel
3 жыл бұрын
That's a huge or, for something that is not mutually exclusive.
@PatrickRyan147
3 жыл бұрын
But they ARE mutually exclusive. When asked "What is the true nature of reality?" you are usually given three options. 1. Organic big bang scenario 2. Simulation scenario or 3. Holodeck scenario You can't mix and match when it comes to the OVERALL theory of the true nature of reality. For instance, you can have a simulated reality within an organic reality INSIDE a holodeck.. but from the perspective of the people living inside the holodeck THEIR overall scenario will be a holodeck scenario. The scenarios can co-function but they are completely mutually exclusive. You see, that is the difference between the Holographic universe theory and the Holodeck theory.. and ultimately it is why Professor Leonard Susskind and friends can't write the maths for it.. They are barking up the wrong tree. They are trying to make the organic big bang universe theory and the holographic universe theory work together as some kind of hybrid NON-mutually exclusive thing. Susskind is trying to prove that there are holographic projectors outside of our universe creating our organic reality.. and he's trying to do this using a 2D event horizon and quantum entanglement. He will never succeed but major quodus to him for trying. The holodeck theory, on the other hand is the natural successor / corollary of the holographic universe theory because it makes much more sense AND it is mutually exclusive. We don't live in a true organic big bang universe scenario. We live in an organic REALITY that has been recreated inside a holodeck complex super-structure. Our overall scenario from OUR point of view is a holodeck scenario.
@ping9836
3 жыл бұрын
Despite the overwhelming proof of this grand design that points to the maker how could anyone deny just because one can't quantify and put all these things into his tiny little neurons?. Thank you.
@Lalakis
3 жыл бұрын
Who are you thanking ?
@ping9836
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lalakis If average scientists, mathematicians and astronomers have joined forces to produce and create this universe using pure science and logic will they allow the solar system to continue to function knowing that the conduct of the human inhabitants there will gladly believed to the power of electrons and what it can do to their latest smartphones innovations thereby putting more money in their pocket eventhough they haven't seen exactly with there naked eyes on how electrons actually works beyond string theory concept. The most mysterious thing really is not how this universe and it's perfect inner workings manifest itself but how is it that despite humanity's negative reputation of turning atomic particles into a nasty thing, crime, greed to power no matter what, plastics, virus, pleasures, scammers, robbers and cheaters. One must ask, how come that both good and bad still breath the same oxygen, uses the same water experience the same sun. This maker must be very very very good so good that it surpasses all understanding because i tell you, if those average scientists, mathematicians and astronomers are in-charge they will have a new project to the nearby galaxy and to finance it they will require a huge rock and the earth will do it. We have the proof in the past they are not satisfied with just bows and arrows so they want more now they became much more complicated because it has the power to end life on earth as we know it. Yeah but some will always argue that it's just a part of the progress. Give me a break. Thank you.
@Lalakis
3 жыл бұрын
@@ping9836 Forget I asked.
@mattcorregan4760
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lalakis Hahaha
@ishikawa1338
2 жыл бұрын
@@ping9836 the first tool was an idea. Before that there just was
@nachtraumom
3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain what Penrose means with fine tuning with regards to the origin of the universe and second law of thermodynamics? I have never heard someone else talking about this.
@chyfields
3 жыл бұрын
We are all characters in the Creator’s dream. The dream is more convincing and continuous than our primitive modern-day virtual reality simulations.
@cosmikrelic4815
3 жыл бұрын
no, that's silly. what happens when the creator wakes up?
@chyfields
3 жыл бұрын
@@cosmikrelic4815 Dream = Poetic licence? The Creator’s matrix is self sustaining.
@cosmikrelic4815
3 жыл бұрын
@@chyfields do you even know what a matrix is? you're just using words you don'r even understand.
@chyfields
3 жыл бұрын
@@cosmikrelic4815 The matrix I perceive is like the top sheet of a multi-layered spread sheet, full of formulae, correlations, spectrums, and 0’s and 1s.
@cosmikrelic4815
3 жыл бұрын
@@chyfields another mixture of words you don't understand. what formulae, correlations between what, spectra of what? these are just meaningless words.
@coleorum
Жыл бұрын
We don't have the right tools to ever understand it. We flounder around with our five senses trying to explain something that we are incapable of explaining. We build fantastic and sophisticated machines that expand our perception of reality. However those machines are products of our limited toolbox and aren't up to the job.
@patientson
Жыл бұрын
The universe is so fine tuned that if you want to exponentially amplify your presence, you only need your mind and consciousness to start it up.
@Joe-lb8qn
2 жыл бұрын
If the laws of our universe were very slightly different rocks/magnesium atoms/black holes/worms would not exist. Therefore the universe was fine tuned for rocks/magnesium ...etc
@christianjimenez9372
3 жыл бұрын
Can you post an air date for your videos?
@ahmedzaidazam
3 жыл бұрын
We fish in the pond but there is some outside it
@calvinhaynes4612
3 жыл бұрын
Why should this universe's set of properties be any less likely than any other. Sure it is one of an infinite set, but unlikely things happen all the time.
@vaskaventi6840
3 жыл бұрын
You are right that all possible constants are equally unlikely on their own, but when we group all possible constants into “life permitting” constants and “non-life permitting constants”, the life permitting constants are unimaginably less numerous than the non-life permitting constants. What matters here is the result. So while each individual constant is equally unlikely, one result is much much more unlikely than another.
@lindal.7242
3 жыл бұрын
What "unlikely thing" would you even begin to compare with the creation of a universe and everything it brings with it? There is no comparison that we could ever conceive of as our imagination is limited to the information this particular universe can provide us with. We have no evidence that there are worlds out there somewhere just like ours, it's all speculation. My suggestion to all skeptics is to deal with the set of facts you have in front of you about this world you inhabit, and it's own universe which has perfectly brought forth all of the speciation of life, and properties and elements to sustain it and evolve it. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...well you know.
@LoraxChannel
3 жыл бұрын
Um because they are? You are basically saying you don't understand the point, so there isn't one. Lol.
@LoraxChannel
3 жыл бұрын
@@lindal.7242 yep, for a group that demands evidence, athiests sure make of a ton of speculative fantasy :)
@lindal.7242
3 жыл бұрын
@Pisstake I can't speak for all believers but I know that a large chunk of us know there is a God and an afterlife because we have had personal experiences with this realm. Unfortunately everyone of us is responsible for our own beliefs and nobody will ever be able to convince a non believer without that non believer searching out the truth and evidence for themselves. The key is to not be satisfied with your assumptions but truly humble yourself and ask God for a sign that you can recognize and God will take the veil off of your eyes. You can live your life just fine without knowing the truth, but your being on this page probably having watched a few if Kuhn' s videos leads me to think that deep down inside you're not even satisfied that your assumptions are correct. This is because we humans all know instinctively that there's a reason we exist in such a place as this, keep following that instinct.
@jareknowak8712
3 жыл бұрын
The Universe is not fine tuned for life. Life had adapted to the Universe.
@williamesselman3102
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. You don't know that.
@vaskaventi6840
3 жыл бұрын
I think that you are heavily underestimated what fine tuning means. For example, if certain constants were different, then there would be no galaxies, planets, or any complex structures. Just single atoms floating light years away from each other. Life cannot adapt to such scenarios. When we say that constants are fine tuned for life, we don’t just mean Earth-life, we mean it’s fine tuned for any type of complex structures which have any possibility of producing something like life.
@samettekin9940
3 жыл бұрын
If there would be no universe we could not even talk about the life. So life means nothing without it's opposed concept. There has to be potential existence in itself.
@fortynine3225
3 жыл бұрын
When there is only one universe, before which there was nothing and before that even nothing was not there, and we are the only ones in it..that is very suspect to say the least...
@williamesselman3102
3 жыл бұрын
Oh you silly people. A measurement is necessary for wave function collapse and Consciousness is necessary to make a measurement. That had to be in place with all of the razor-thin factors.
@johnayres2303
3 жыл бұрын
I believe the multi-Universe is an infinite sequence of Universes rather than many existing simultaneously.
@gowdsake7103
3 жыл бұрын
Of course with fuck all actual evidence
@ishikawa1338
2 жыл бұрын
Layered through different vibrations and energy waves
@Flyingtaco82
3 жыл бұрын
Fine tuned for chocolate, Labrador retrievers, and Mozart. Not bad.
@diegovaldez1359
3 жыл бұрын
How does multiverse jive with the block universe predicted by the special theory of relativity ? Past, present and future are all preset. Only change or entropy gives the illusion of time passing. Are all other universes also fixed ?
@heneralluna8417
3 жыл бұрын
Simulation hypothesis is the answer
@shaggystone6397
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. A virtual reality would also account for "spooky action at a distance" or entanglement. When our universe began big bang, accounts for the booting up of this entire system. This planet is a project of how much suffering a creature can take before it wouldnt be able to exist. We are right on the edge. We are no longer excepting the program which is why half the planet is on prozac. Can you imagine what a trained physicist would think while reading this? LOL hehehe
@p0indexter624
10 ай бұрын
6:00 whats the hidden trap. what about current theories in QM? no traps? creation might be in layers and just because we have trouble w the the question the layer beyond this one implies ie: where did the creator come from, doesn't mean we cant address the first layer which by way of fine tuning hints at an intellect. and yes there are some alternate theories 😉
@WoodstockG54
3 жыл бұрын
Rise above body consciousness and the answer to your question will no longer exist.
@lightlightism
4 ай бұрын
The Big bang is not the beginning. May be is another stage for the beginning. May be we have unlimited stages for the bignning... This leads us as the multi universes theory to neglect the fine tuning theory or conclusion.
@richardvannoy1198
3 жыл бұрын
The Universe is not fine tuned to us. We are fine tuned to it. All possible universes will have life fine tuned to them. How otherwise?
@richardrosecky1574
3 жыл бұрын
ok, difficult to determine why our environment exists. Now add the complexity of us! from two cells merging into one... to us.
@ezbody
3 жыл бұрын
The two cells, are they brain cells?
@moamoa3303
3 жыл бұрын
THE CONDITION THAT OUR PLANET IS JUST RIGHT PLACE TO HAVE WATER AND LIFE IS ALSO A CONSTANT COSMOLOGY
@gowdsake7103
3 жыл бұрын
And the FACT that 99.99999999999999999999999999 percent of the universe is utterly lethal to us ! Nice fine tuning huh
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
So, why not consciousnezs.
@pavlova717
3 жыл бұрын
Whether we think it is chance or necessity, there is a deep mystery, which is why is life even a possibility. Some say the question 'why is there something rather than nothing' is a logical fallacy. Nonetheless, could we ask 'why is there something conducive to life rather than nothing conducive to life'. It's not simply asking why does life exist, because for that we can say chance or necessity, but it asks why is there that chance or necessity. What is the origin of origins? It might be a fallacious question, but I cannot help but ponder it. How is it that the most fundamental laws of physics and logic, even if its by necessity, result in life, with all its beauty and pleasures? Here there is a temptation to put consciousness before those dry laws, though that would be theological.
@rotorblade9508
3 жыл бұрын
What are the chances that the constants were just right they eventually led to life? 1/10^123 Then what are the chances life existed from the beginning?
@ajhieb
3 жыл бұрын
Not how probability works. Try again.
@jamesruscheinski8602
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Life and Mind are fine tuning the universe through multiverse (science); probably be more in the realm of God for Life and Consciousness for Mind
@lightyearsawaythejourneyaf6144
3 жыл бұрын
Life exists in the universe. possibly not the life that we are used to and that we would like to imagine👩🚀🚀
@richter018
3 жыл бұрын
The universe wasn't designed, wasn't "created", it's an eternal, block universe...according to relativity the whole of spacetime exists simultaneously!!! DANG IT!!! Get that through ur head people!!! I've told u I don't know how many times!!! I didn't "create" anything!!! Everything is infinite just like Me!!! I'm God...alright!!! I should know. Now stop asking stupid questions ok?...ty.
@richter018
3 жыл бұрын
And shut up about "free will" & "determinism" already. Silly apes just love to articulate incoherent nonsense and argue about nothing....geeeezus.
@joshkeeling82
3 жыл бұрын
And Mr. Penrose was the perfect ending. Every single thing he said made far more logical sense, and completely destroys the anthropic principal.
@vladimir0700
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, fuck the anthropic principle-lol
@43lk
3 жыл бұрын
Anthropocentric illusion, just like gods and life after.
@4lsteppa647
3 жыл бұрын
U didn’t like the video
@francesco5581
3 жыл бұрын
the anthropocentric point of view of all of us is the only thing that makes the universe real . Or you really think that reality can exist of some planets running around stars ...very interesting huh ?
@43lk
3 жыл бұрын
@@francesco5581, it does. Plus it was existing for 13,8 bln years before us and will be real for at least next 10^212 years (minimal baryonic matter half-life) after ;)
@43lk
3 жыл бұрын
@@4lsteppa647 no, I did not. I always hit Like under videos, even if I don't fully agree with them ;).
@SpittinSquirell
3 жыл бұрын
@@francesco5581 that's like saying the universe didnt exist until we opened our eyes and observed it.
@nivekvb
3 жыл бұрын
This will get Sabine after you!
@onemoreriff7644
3 жыл бұрын
Everything must have been fine tuned even before the big bang. Our Universe may sound very old, but in physics terms it's not long enough to be able create all these laws since conception. The Universe is just another seed. So there has to be a plant and so on.
@esecallum
3 жыл бұрын
WRONG WAY ROUND. EVOLUTION FINE TUNED TO THE UNIVERSE.
@Gringohuevon
3 жыл бұрын
My God Britain produces a prodigous amount of old duffers
@LoraxChannel
3 жыл бұрын
And Americans seem unable to write a senetence well. Prodigious includes "amount". L2think.
@I_AM-MICHAEL
3 жыл бұрын
If not THIS then something else. Whatever It was in the beginning, It would have been the most LOGICAL thing that could occurred at that particular moment. "𝐼𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑳𝑶𝑮𝑶𝑺ᵂᴼᴿᴰ, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑳𝒐𝒈𝒐𝒔ᵂᴼᴿᴰ 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑻𝑯𝑬𝑶𝑺ᴳᴼᴰ , 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑳𝒐𝒈𝒐𝒔ᵂᴼᴿᴰ 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑻𝒉𝒆𝒐𝒔ᴳᴼᴰ ." -- 𝐽𝑜ℎ𝑛 1:1 𝐾𝐽𝑉+ "𝐴𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑏𝑦 𝑨𝑼𝑻𝑶𝑺ᴴᴵᴹ; 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑨𝑼𝑻𝑶𝑺ᴴᴵᴹ 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒." -- 𝐽𝑜ℎ𝑛 1:3 𝐾𝐽𝑉+ The Greek word LOGOS (G3056) is where the English word LOGIC comes from. AUTOS (G846) is where words like AUTOMATION and AUTOMATICALLY come from. Autos can mean HIM, HER, THEM, IT or SELF.
@tacodan5658
10 ай бұрын
The Answer is right in front of everyones' eyes. They, just don't want to admit it. an Intelligent Agent created the Universe. Otherwise, my computer also came out of multiple computers, and it just came out by "necessity" or change. Fat chance.
@Raptorel
3 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know what Sir Roger Penrose reffers to when he is talking about the 10^10^123 number? As far as I know, the variation of temperature is 1 part in 100000 at the Big Bang, giving it its low entropy. He seems to be talking about some other special condition.
@tanshihus1
3 жыл бұрын
Go back to the Susskind interview. It's the cosmological constant which being so small can produce a form of anti-gravity. This is where Alan Guth's ideas about the inflationary period during the Big Bang comes from.
@Raptorel
3 жыл бұрын
@@tanshihus1 But the cosmological constant has an unmatch between theory and observation of 10^120, not 10^10^123. The real value of dark energy is 10^-8 ergs/cm^3. And, by the way, it might be false, Subir Sarkar maintains that it's an apparent local effect and that the Universe is not actually expanding. So it can't be the cosmological constant.
@tanshihus1
3 жыл бұрын
@@Raptorel I'm no expert on such matters. Penrose and Susskind mention the same number while Reese only hints at during his interview. You only have to look at the program to know that it is stitched together from recordings taken over several years. No reason to expect them to be completely accurate or even current.
@Raptorel
3 жыл бұрын
@@tanshihus1 I am aware of that, of course it is. I've seen pretty much all of the interviews on the closer to truth site anyway, but it's fun to revisit them in a cohesive format for these videos on youtube.
@tomwirt319
5 ай бұрын
There is a talk by Penrose oine explaining it.
@Bill..N
3 жыл бұрын
Susskind nailed it!
@agisspentzos7588
3 жыл бұрын
I think the real question is whether the universe is alive or not. I would like to see a video about that.
@LoraxChannel
3 жыл бұрын
Short episode. No, the end.
@neffetSnnamremmiZ
3 жыл бұрын
The real living does never appear in science. That's the difficulty with self knowledge, like Thales explained, because its about the in principle invisible!
@experiencemystique4982
3 жыл бұрын
Univers is fine tuning to vibration (sound for ej)and light
@ALavin-en1kr
7 ай бұрын
Does life depend on biology or does biology depend on life? There could be planets and universes that can support life without biology and the environment which biology requires to exist.
@giorgirazmadze5102
3 жыл бұрын
I don't have enough faith to believe in multiverse
@justicewillprevail1106
3 жыл бұрын
He asks all the right questions.
@djjfive
3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, time shouldn’t come into it. Time is relative to the observer, therefore, what we perceive here as the billions of years it has taken to produce complex life may have only taken a few seconds from another perspective of time. As a guess as to what is happening, I’m entertaining the idea that the universe is repeatedly being born and destroyed, each time with a different rule set of physics, therefore I’m leaning toward the belief that my universe will exist again, so I guess I will exist again within it and this will continue on and on. If this is correct, we will exist infinitely and also not exist infinitely too. I believe this logic would apply to an infinite universe and also to a multiverse. I certainly couldn’t say I know this as fact however if ‘infinite’ plays a part in any of it, at some point it must become true?
@stevecoley8365
3 жыл бұрын
Currently, the universe is out of balance. Darkness (business) exists so that stars (light and warmth) have a place to shine in heaven (joy, beauty and harmony). Stars like US don't exist to be sucked out of heaven by a giant black hole in space called "greed" and it's ignorance (hate). Also, Love (god) spent billions of years creating this paradise planet lifeboat so that her miraculous works of fine art called life have a beautiful place to be. Love didn't spend so much time creating this paradise planet lifeboat to be depreciated, hated, polluted and destroyed in a brief moment by alien vampires (greed) and their ignorance (hate).
@jareknowak8712
3 жыл бұрын
Is God a form of life?
@moamoa3303
3 жыл бұрын
Create some kind of statistics based only on presumption and there you have your first evidence for the multi universe
@janhoogendijk8604
3 жыл бұрын
Is the atom fine tuned for life and mind?
@billdefrances4314
3 жыл бұрын
The other option is that we are living in an elaborate simulation, no?
@rw7011
3 жыл бұрын
“All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.” Edgar A. Poe
@maxpower252
Жыл бұрын
To justify fine tuning with Multiverse or God sounds like quitting or giving up to me. But what do I know…
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