It's a nuanced topic. So please, put your pitchforks down and your wieners back in your pants and actually watch this before jumping to conclusions
@killingtime234
3 ай бұрын
I want me wiener out hehe
@DemonicEmperor2023
3 ай бұрын
😆😆😆LOL
@mrlee9213
3 ай бұрын
Who’s got their Weiner out? 😂
@elzbietabetlej4085
3 ай бұрын
I think as a woman, the design is awesome. It is pretty creative, the game implies different styles and designs. Lust from the name inquires being a seductress, Idril skin also covers what has to cover. they show the beauty of the human body, what is wrong with that? not every design is like Anora, we have pretty much covered up models like magnus or amhale. Also there are examples of male chest being exposed and noone makes a fuss, like oddysey lego.
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
Good points!
@devrev7173
3 ай бұрын
Wouldnt it be more tolerable if there was design for women to look at also?
@S1m0n504
3 ай бұрын
@@elzbietabetlej4085 you might have a point, but as someone already comment, there's no need to sexualize already existing characters who are completely opposite to that line of thought. Once again, I'm talking about Idril; her whole deal -lore and designwise - is to be a refined, pretty powerful and beautiful elf. There's no need to take her appeal on the completely opposite direction, even less if they are already including "sexy women designs"
@S1m0n504
3 ай бұрын
@@elzbietabetlej4085 and related to male characters, sure, they're hot, but they're not dangerously close to show the most sexual parts of their bodies. I being a gay man wouldn't appreciate to see King Hartz on underwear, to put an example. Not even Arrogance, who is already sexy: there's just no need to take it that far
@buzzsawkhan
3 ай бұрын
@@devrev7173One problem with your question is you're presuming that women don't like to look at pretty, sexy characters as well. I've heard anecdotally (and seen some stats, though can't lay my hands on them myself) that woman are the most concerned with attractiveness. Now, that may be mostly a result of playing MMOs, where the relationship between the character and the player is different, but it largely has seemed to hold true.
@MdnightWnd
3 ай бұрын
I'll weigh in as an adult female who plays this game. I was honestly okay with Lust being very sexy because it completely fits the character. And around the same time, they released the Vierna skin - which to me is gorgeous and sexy without being trashy (unlike Idril's skin). I really appreciate a well-done character design, but it seems like they're just going sexy for the sake of being sexy. Not every single female in the game needs to be near naked. I was hoping that after people complained about Anora's ass(ets) showing every time they clicked on her that they learned their lesson, but I don't think they have. #shirtlesspraetus
@JAndGio
3 ай бұрын
I agree they definitely design characters to be “sexy” but for me it’s been mostly fine because pretty much all of the designs have been great. Maybe that’s why Idril’s new skin bothers me so much. (Because it fucking sucks lol)
@MdnightWnd
3 ай бұрын
@@JAndGio I agree completely about Idril's skin! I got it, but I'll never use it.
@buzzsawkhan
3 ай бұрын
There is a good point that Idril's new skin isn't bad because it's sexy: it's not great because it's so generically sexy and unconnected to her previous skin.
@JAndGio
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for having us on man and we’re happy to finally be able to properly start the conversation on this super complex topic.
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
my pleasure guys
@buzzsawkhan
3 ай бұрын
Ironicly, when your guest referenced Marvel, I immediatly thought to how Marvel has committed to desexualizing characters, and (not coincidencally) has experienced a period of failures that is almost inconceivable coming off of Infinity War and Endgame. in addition, there is a conversation all over games media about sexy and attractive characters, with a narrative among game journalists and many corporations against sexy stuff: how are the games that are selling themselves on sexy/tasteful doing versus the ones that sell on... modesty? (Not sure how to describe it.) Anecdotally, sexy seems to be winning hands down. In the gatcha sphere, I think the game is called Snowbreak, recently went for more fanservice and (to my understanding) has revitalized their game. As a final anecdote, I was motivated to start WoR when Lust was the garunteed. I should point out, I didn't play the game, so didn't know how good she was, I just saw her design and thought she was cool.
@nickguyrees
3 ай бұрын
A lot of cinematic I'd never seen before. Where does the Nightmare Council vs Watchers fight come from?
@datuez4396
3 ай бұрын
it's a promoting video that wor make back when the game is going to launch or after the global launch
@Theaphilius-Lupin
3 ай бұрын
Interesting video ^^' To say ... well write a few words. This topic is not so easy to talk about as it cannot simply said "yes" or "no". With that being said, the following is my own opinion and whoever likes can disagree - I am just the Lorekeeper of WoR (always open for suggestions for which Lore you want to hear next). The main issue, from my point of view is, that there seems generally a bit of different measurements what counts as "too sexy" - having to little clothing? Yes, that is something I can understand, by that standard what about characters like (I am leaving the animalistic ones like Salazar, Kinesha out of this, that would be a different story entirely (which I do not want to go into - just saying, I am more than ok with the character design overall - I like mythical creatures and such ^^') Arrogance, the new Skin for Wrath (which looks amazing), Skulf (a rare), etc. ... those are also clothed in a "special way" - I do get that there is a difference between female and male character in this regard - and I am not judging anyone for it. Personally, I think it is something good; but where I do have issues with is when (e.g. regarding the new Idril Skin) people are getting insulting and calling her out for "looking cheap" or comments on specific hero'ins that are more than just inappropriate (for once not talking about the geopolitical discussion - again different story entirely ...). Again, this is just reflecting my personal opinion (-> nowadays, I think it is important to clarify that ...). I think it is not bad and as long as both parties (female and male) have something to look at, I do not see any issue with that ^^' I am sorry for this long(er) comment - that topic is not so easy to talk to, because it can easily anger people.
@JAndGio
3 ай бұрын
Ima be honest though, the female audience has A LOT less to look at. Definitely understand that this game is mostly male though.
@Theaphilius-Lupin
3 ай бұрын
@@JAndGio Agree on that one - but that does not change the fact there is no complains about sexualisation of male characters ^^' But to go back to the original question - I think it is not a bad thing and maybe they will add more characters where the female player base has something to look at [could be suggested to the developers - I am sure the male playerbase would not really mind that]
@JAndGio
3 ай бұрын
@@Theaphilius-Lupin Way ahead of you on that one my friend.
@brandongp1135
3 ай бұрын
Well, if the character is meant to be sexy then I think that's fine, but in the case of Idril for instance, that skin makes her go from the best archer of the realm (according to her story) to the best stripper of the realm (I guess that's another way to help the realm). What I mean is that in her case it takes away from the character. Her original look was better.
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
Very well put :D
@damondragon324
3 ай бұрын
Haha great comment, that was funny 😂
@JAndGio
3 ай бұрын
That’s a damn fine way to put it 😂
@pangolin6473
3 ай бұрын
Cant agree more. I never use her skin coz it looks weird to me.
@S1m0n504
3 ай бұрын
I completely agree on this. The whole appeal of Idril was her refined style, making her sexy (in a non-visual way) and strong -looking. Obviously Lust had to be that way because is part of her essence. And even though other characters are sexy on purpose, they still look extremely good, taking Dhalia and Morrigan as an example
@gaboyjenn
3 ай бұрын
I started to play wor after the lust commercial 😅😅😅
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
She was definitely a major draw no doubt
@siegel1614
3 ай бұрын
The background videos were all awesome, I liked seeing Salazar going off it was sweet. Everyone is different and thinks differently but I personally have no issues with the sexiness of hero’s in this game. Like to me it’s a video game and doesn’t do it for me. I know there are probably people that are a younger player base and maybe it’s too much for them but clearly it seems like the creators aren’t focused on them since they are putting it on their game. And honestly I like how it feels like the game isn’t focused around being PG. Either way the game is amazing and the sexiness doesn’t change the game for me, great content as always Fasti
@dubedaare
3 ай бұрын
I do love a lot of the female designs, and Lust is one of my favorites, but it does get kinda old for me, when EVERY female character is sexy. Would love some more variety, like there is with the male characters. Gives us sexy for sure, but also give us a female swamp troll! Also, yes to more sexy male characters and character skins!! #shirtlesspraetus
@Destined_WoR
3 ай бұрын
The way I look at it is it doesn’t matter UNTIL it starts to take away from the skin. Idrils skin is so cool when placed but in the gallery you just see she’s basically wearing a diaper 💀 Anora animation was jarring and ugly when you clicked on her in the gallery, those things are too much but the rest is fine to me!
@Z.E.S.W.O.R
3 ай бұрын
I don't mind it
@omarromero9302
3 ай бұрын
I disagree with the Idril skin crossing the line. It's art, and I have seen that skin togged on in just about every arena match. The animation should be a player's choice to toggle on or off. I think the opposite when you say there is fear of this game sexualizing characters or the community. It is usually a small % of the community that censors the characters and community as a whole because of their fear of how art is being portrayed. Until there is flat-out nudity in the game I don't see a problem. I should be able to toggle an animation on or off just like I have the choice to use a skin or not. Good points but I disagree with this pitchfork-raising topic lol
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
arena is pvp. that skin gives stats, even if very little. if someone wants the max edge they will obviously wear the skin
@omarromero9302
3 ай бұрын
@fastidious_gg fair! I think there is a problem with thinking female characters are too sexy but ignoring Maul, Salazar, and Wrath by showing abs, legs, arms, and the bare chest is acceptable. If the comparison is a fat Praetus to these female skins I think we are ignoring how unfair we are being to Woman and what we should allow their characters to wear in fear of them revealing too much when we have male characters revealing everything we don't want female characters to.
@toanfosho6295
3 ай бұрын
@@fastidious_gg i didnt even realize that the skin gave stat boost. i think its dumb to link a skin with stat boost, bc its basically forcing people to use it to get a higher advantage rather than just using a skin they wanna use. i think to fix this, they just need to not put stat boost on skins.
@ShawntheButcher
3 ай бұрын
I love the fact that you bring up Slates `award'. She is a highly talented high level player. The 'award' trivializes her achievments. There is no denying sheis a beautiful young woman with a great voice as well, but that is not what her channel is about. I think Lust has a perfect model for what she is, the physical embodiment of one of the deadly sins. Livian is ridiculous, the "whoops you caught me bathing" has got to be the furthest reach to show skin. Anora looks cool, but the tenticaly animation is not to my taste. I think Seraphina is fine, she is monstrerous and medusa like. I prefer the origional Dolores skin, the tattoos and jewlery are amazing. Lastly, i would love it if they would put in different style bodies. I would love to see( and i know I'm in the minority here) middle age bodies on these models. And not in a weird and grotesque way. Make them as beautiful and interesting as all the other characters ( this might be a little advanced for current society). Great video btw. The topic is sure to spark some debate!
@aldmerian
3 ай бұрын
It's interesting that the weirdly lewd skins are the free ones. It'll be interesting to see if people pay for a skin like the Idril skin That said. Where can we find these faction cinematics in the background?
@austinmilner9664
3 ай бұрын
I don't have an issue with ildris skin(except how the hips look for the resting portion of the animation, it looks like her hips are dislocated or something, it needs some work) this event or sexy skins in general. I would rather have unique skins whether they are sexy or not than recolors of the base hero skin which in my opinion is just boring and lazy. the issue I do have is the removal of stuff that could have just been given a toggle function. like with anoras hero animation, there are those that didn't have an issue with it myself included, and those who seem to dislike it. Moonton could have just added a feature that allows you to toggle the animations on or off and that would have solved the issue instead of just removing it completely. I feel it sets a bad precedent for future content regarding skins and animations for characters in general especially for those who aren't F2P. For instance, lets say you buy a skin when it releases and it fits what ever your preferences are, but after a while it gets changed in an update with out prior notice due to some one or people complaining. Now the skin is no longer what you originally bought but now it is something that fits the preference of those that complained. not only is the item you purchased not what you originally got before but now you just wasted money too. At the end of the day The skins are completely optional in this game an only provide a miniscule amount of a stat boost that isn't game changing. If you like it that's great, buy it and equip it or not, If you don't like it that's also great, DON'T BUY IT then, its as simple as that.
@Gyrfalcon-l9y
3 ай бұрын
Great conversation, folks! I don't condemn the designs from a moral point of view (on the contrary, I agree with many of the commentators below that the designs look terrific), but I do feel that we are only shown one body type for both male and female characters, i.e., buff and awesome. That is not terrible per se, but it might be nice from time to time to see more "normal" body types represented seriously (and not only as caricatures, as is the case with many of the demonic figures). I'd also like to add two more things: 1) Only females are truly sexualized in this game and 2) Only the females have truly impractical battle gear that would lead to their premature demise in any semi-realistic universe. So either show non-female characters in utterly ridiculous gear or correct the more moronic battle equipment of the female characters.
@GHOSTstryker
2 ай бұрын
I think it’s an adult game and they haven’t crossed any lines. But I also like the difference in each character from classic to demonic. Each champ has some sexy, some are standard dress
@fastidious_gg
2 ай бұрын
anora gets felt up by a tentacle. there are levels to this
@GHOSTstryker
2 ай бұрын
True, the videos are more sexualized than the still pictures themselves.
@kingpm3586
3 ай бұрын
Fused Livian and got a real shock lol
@RileyBurke-zx9ix
3 ай бұрын
Less sexy is all good, id rather have the game more appealing to a bigger audience to grow the game and keep it successful!
@stmorpheus4079
3 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with it for the most part. I do wish they would give context for some. Anora and the dragon are lovers, so at least that is explained. I like the idril skin, but i would also for the devs to release a little bit of story surrounding it as it does seem out of character for her. of course she could just have a freaky side, whatever. I especially support them making skins for those that want a sexier option.
@karanshade488
3 ай бұрын
And also where did you find those vidz of the nightmare council or the cultist, they look so darn cool!
@Tyler-zi5uc
3 ай бұрын
I think the game goes way too far. I am glad you brought this up. I honestly was debating quitting because of this despite really enjoying the game. I seriously don’t feel comfortable having the game up when people are around. And I question why play a game when I feel that way??? Additionally I almost didn’t watch this video because of the picture on the video.
@JAndGio
3 ай бұрын
That’s a really good point that I think it’s really overlooked. Who wants to play a game on their phone that they are embarrassed by?
@Bigvoodoo09
2 ай бұрын
Hey, there's one point I'd like to mention. It’s not about being sexy or too sexy, but it's still a bit neglected. It's about the star upgrades. Almost at the beginning of the game, you can upgrade Voltus, and he completely changes his appearance, making you think, "Hey cool, there are multiple designs for one character," and you want to explore that. However, Voltus remains the only character who undergoes a "transformation" when upgraded, which is kind of a shame... After all, skins are being released one after another, but this feature seems to have been completely abandoned. So, thanks for reading, have a nice day xD.
@karanshade488
3 ай бұрын
For me it's too much Enora or Idril feels purposeless sex. Lust and arrogance on the opposite were very well done. It was steamy scene for valentine's day, very on point and with intent.
@nargrexbyte1847
3 ай бұрын
i think the line for me was definetly the Anora cutscene where i actually felt uncomfortable and also can we get hot guys as well, only have monster dudes, armor dudes. or fat Praetus
@specialkgaming
3 ай бұрын
I feel like they saw how excited we got for Lust, made the assumption that the aesthetic was what made everyone excited for her and changed paths design wise. Since then, everything has been way sexed up. I don't really care either way, but it's definitely noticeable.
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
@@specialkgaming last line I agree whole heartedly. I don’t mind the way it is currently, but clearly there has been a changed and ideally they don’t push that way further
@isaiahhughes6253
3 ай бұрын
Its not rocket science. The skins are amazing. For those who feel its "too far" this what the devs can do... For each character.... allow the player to choose from two different skins If you want the sexier one you can, if you dont want that then choose the other one. I think most of these thoughts are a bit much. Sexier themes make money.. the internet has opened this up long before WOR. The "sexist voice" wording I agree that should not be worded that way..... Because people will do the most and lean on more disrepect.....
@isaiahhughes6253
3 ай бұрын
for those who dont like the idril skin.... simply just put on the old one. Also, during the 1 year anniversary was when it was given. Most that come after that will not even get the skin.
@Emicu420
3 ай бұрын
Sexy will always refer to a women and will always be. They way the use it is decent. Its a fantasy game that need to relate to a story amd make sens. I love the designs so far, i hope they keep coming. The "sexualizing" in this game goes furthem then the females.we have Arogance the new wrath skin Cerberus with his quads salazar whos all naked and etc.. all I wanna say in a way is that the game hits more sides then just selling tits. Indeed is gonna sell better. But from my perspective it doesn't do it very nasty and they are on the line. There are not any games out there who are pushing this kind of content. Kids dont play this.. they dont spend its a diferent community. Or I might be also wrong. Just sharing my thoughts
@WoR-gg
3 ай бұрын
The question "is this good for the game" is important for Moonton to be asking, but it's a very tough question to answer. I wish we had more data to have more informed opinions as players, but I think this trend will continue if it's working for the game and their bottom line. I have no issues with any of the designs or cinematics. You see them so infrequently when you play that they don't register for me. I came to the game after seeing the censored Lust ad, simply because I found a game the needed censorship in an ad unusual enough that I wanted to see what it was about. Once I started playing, I saw how little sexuality you actually experience, and it's just a non-issue for me. So far the comments indicate people don't think it's egregious, but I want to caution against rallying hard against business decisions like these. Moonton isn't perfect, but they do listen pretty well, and if there's enough outcry, I would not be surprised to see them change course, even if it means abandoning an extremely lucrative marketing plan. I want the game to succeed and thrive, and if quadruple Hs are what works, well I'll just accept it and be happy the game keeps growing and putting out more content 100% agree on the "sexiest voice" award take though. I cringed hard when I saw that, and frequently wondered how it made everyone nominated feel. Would not recommend
@blood7995
3 ай бұрын
I really want lust hope they bring her back soon.
@ideenmaleki1526
3 ай бұрын
You want praetus to have jiggly physics?
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
desperately
@ideenmaleki1526
3 ай бұрын
@@fastidious_gg me too…
@cgibeats
3 ай бұрын
Fastidious wants Praetus in a thong.
@Phantomtkd
2 ай бұрын
I have to be honest, I really like the sexy girls in the game and I like the cinematics. Maybe I'm in the minority on this but I don't mind admitting I enjoy seeing them quite a lot and I hope they continue to make sexy girls and attractive costumes like Idril's.
@fastidious_gg
2 ай бұрын
I agree with you like 90%. I would say the biggest thing for me is like nudity in livians and then the tentacle tail stuff in anora’s
@Phantomtkd
2 ай бұрын
@fastidious_gg that's fair, perhaps those can stay but you have to give agree consent otherwise it's not visible?
@kat7ra
3 ай бұрын
The lust one I did find funny, it being the Valentines thing and all, and kinda on point, but her and especially the newer chars/skins def means showing the game to friends might be harder as an adult. I've experienced this myself for sure with the icy cut-scene. And it popping up every time you click to summon during the event, I could see it turn new people off during the event. Is it a plus or minus for total new players? Hard to say. I do agree that if you wanna go the super sexy route? At least do both genders, makes it feel less awkward :D
@Thugzilla90
3 ай бұрын
If anything, a mistress warrior in a full clad of actual body armor is sexier in my opinion. But, others will have different opinions. I think as far as skins go, it's fine. Because it gives options for every player for a different aesthetic on every hero. And with Lust, nobody should be surprised as it's within the name. I do feel like the outfit alone for Anora was fine, but the camera editing with constant ass in the face was definitely unnecessary. In fact, it was kind of annoying.
@PaRAtro0per
3 ай бұрын
Entertainment in general seems to really have no problem with violence but nudity is such a big deal. I love both when it's done right. I love Wor and it's aesthetic.
@wagnermatos1741
3 ай бұрын
this stupid "big deal" with "nudity" is kinda recenti-ish, if u look back, ads all around the world was wild, fun and entertaining, now they are blend and with barely any creativity. All due some stupids ideological movements, let's it not become a big trend then already is, let's have pretty things without butthurt ppl ruin it for everyone
@lekoknightgaming8071
3 ай бұрын
Only issue with this is that I can’t click on the hero button in my home screen
@neonblink2722
3 ай бұрын
Personally I think it’s fine, think all the skins and characters are cool and look forward to seeing more.
@ludwigator5
3 ай бұрын
"lust cosplay" skin for Praetus
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
where do I sign up
@darkgedi
3 ай бұрын
Kids dont have large sums of money to spit at a gacha.. the game is geared towards adults.
@naimgrizzly7280
3 ай бұрын
You dont need money to be good at the game A little bit of knowledge on how those kind of games work and you're fine Ofc you can't buy unlimited energy as you would like but its cool every day you can get like 600-1200 energy
@darkgedi
3 ай бұрын
@naimgrizzly7280 sure, but they want to attract people with money that are willing to spend it. Think Vegas; gambling, strippers, and irresponsible spenders.
@rubikso
2 ай бұрын
Sexy I'm fine with. Lust, Seraphina, and Hatssut are all good character designs in my opinion. Even the Lust cinematic I liked. It was well in theme for the hero. L. Ingrid's character design I find unbalanced and off-putting just because of the single pauldron and mismatched sleeve portion of the costume, but I am fine with the basic instinct inspired cinematic. I think the Anora cinematic wasn't improved by the intro portion, her design is unique and I like it but I could have done without the prolonged intro. Idril's skin for me is jarring just because it is so divergent from the original. I prefer the green and gold on her, but use the skin in the arena simply because every little bit helps as a low spender. What I would prefer is if the stat boost was unlocked along with the skin and it wasn't required to be applied to be active. I suspect you may see less of the skin in arena if this was the case.
@cligato7
3 ай бұрын
I think they are juggling the line right now. Hopefully the see that and dial it in. The only skin that crossed that line was Idril. It doesn't fit her thematically and lore wise. It has to be fitting for the character or it just seems like they are trying to hard to push sexy. Lust takes exposed skin to the limit but it fits the character, and by being the namesake of one of the 7 deadly sins, it kinda on point. Anora's skin is fine, but the cinematic is weird and makes it creepy with how sexy it's 'trying' to be. Livian's is kinda same but trying to hard it's creepy. When they try too hard to sell sexy is where it just becomes weird and creepy.
@Александр-т3ж2н
3 ай бұрын
it was a great chat but we really need an updated tier list
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
I updated 33 days ago. Will always be every 6-8 weeks
@momojamei5324
2 ай бұрын
Man that king hartz part made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂
@DirtyRoomKnives
3 ай бұрын
I'm fine with Idril's skin, but Anora's cinematic is definitely a little excessive. As for "sexiest voice" I think it was a joke category aimed at the lads, but too many of the male players went full waifu.
@StartLuccasMatos
3 ай бұрын
I came back to the game around the final moments for Anora, I was watching people pulling for her, then my wife saw my screen (I had no idea about the cinematic at the time) and I felt so freaking stupid watching it. It was totally unnecessary from my point of view. But Lust is different from that regard. She was in Valentine's Day with her partner, and she's a demon named Lust, so... there's that. They should be more careful about it. Cinematics are top notch, but they should be more careful with the content.
@JAndGio
3 ай бұрын
This comment is EXACTLY how we feel
@cambouldin8560
2 ай бұрын
I say bring it on... keep pushing the limits. I think the player base we have obviously likes it. I'd guess that the number of people so turned off by the sexiness of fictional characters is so small that it's insignificant. I also agree to do it more with the male players too though. Imagine a shirtless hairy chested King Harz looking guy with almost nothing on and yoked like the rock. If he's strong in game we are all going for that too! The sexy characters are like must haves! got to collect them all.
@ChristianFox-ug8pc
3 ай бұрын
The answer is yes, depends on what audience you want to attract and keep.
@RSLAGLE
2 ай бұрын
Where is the background videos from?
@fastidious_gg
2 ай бұрын
commercials and cinematics
@the_librarian4400
3 ай бұрын
For me the line is in the camera and angles maybe even more than the character design. I picture a person where the camera is, distance and…gaze…then it becomes obvious if it’s pervy or just admiring looks. The looks themselves im fine with over the top skimpy outfits etc. I see more than enough modesty in my day to day and vote to keep the Boris Vallejo type fantasy elements intact. Every bit of lust is over the top btw, but it’s…’lust’.
@THEWraithKing
3 ай бұрын
I haven't been on KZitem as much as I used to be. But I played a lot of games that some would call pervy. And I've always had the same opinion on the subject. There is nothing wrong with beauty/sexy. Now before I say the rest of this please understand I'm not implying that you think this.. some people demonize this type of thing and it's wrong. Sexy is a good thing. If a game has it in it there shouldn't be a problem.
@tannerleggett7456
3 ай бұрын
It’s a bit much for me. But it’s also the world we live in. I’m older so I don’t pay too much attention but I think it detracts from the actually purpose of the game a bit. It’s a sad ploy to attract younger players. But then again….. most anime does this purposely. Playing on our baser instincts
@LeyendasdelPixel97
3 ай бұрын
Where can i see all this videos that you show in the background?
@Prospector-WoR
3 ай бұрын
I think they need to be careful how far they push it. Lust imo is just fine..She's covered enough and I mean she's demonic, has whips etc..You know if fits the character. If you just start stripping down random characters in the game to appeal to that nature..then, IDK. Sometimes things are better left to the imagination (Even for the pervy sages in the community). But, I have to say it is very annoying you have Lust in game but you can't type her name in the in game chat. They contradict the audience they are apparently trying to appeal too. I tried to name a gearset after her and it wouldn't let me lol!!! As for the audience reach.. The game is 14+ and I will tell you pg13 is showing worse than I've ever seen in WoR lol. But, I will leave this comment with this.. Idril's Skin is F*n stupid.
@Prospector-WoR
3 ай бұрын
Oh.. And, I need to point out.. Majority of female athletes and martial artists or w/e are NOT wearing Trench Coats to cover everything up. In fact REAL Female Athletes/MMA Fighters are wearing very minimal clothing. I know that's not what they're trying to push with this.. But, if the female fighters were like fighters in the MMA they'd be wearing Tight, Short-Shorts with their cheeks sticking out and very skimpy covers over their top. o.O Curious why games should be any different besides being oversensitive lol. oh.. and P.S. - Idril's Skin is stupid.
@mckratos06
3 ай бұрын
At this point, u might as well watch porn. Much cheaper n don’t have to waste your time. Thank you for bringing this up. Sad Moonton has chosen this route.
@judgemorris
3 ай бұрын
I mean… we were warned by a song a long time ago… some people are too sexy for their shirt.
@darkthread7733
3 ай бұрын
I agree completely with J, I like most of these designs and have no problem with them. The only design which I absolutely hate and have a problem with is Idril's skin, so very cheap... you know what I mean. Anyway, my problem was with the cinematics mostly, and also the animations that popped up every time we viewed Anora or switched to her banner. That is totally unnecessary.. wasn't even a one-time thing; they forced it on us like a million times a day for no reason... other than that, Anora looks pretty cool. The Lust's cinematics were a bit too far, like I wouldn't be comfortable with that popping up while I am in a public place, but it felt like it was a special occasion, you know, Valentine's... so it was kinda excusable... Anora's cinematics, on the other hand, and the animations that focused on her parts were too much. I can understand some people do enjoy that, but I'd like them to give us the options at least to opt-out of these things either completely or limit to a one-time view unless you choose to view the animations or cinematics yourself. With all that said, I still hate Idril's skin. Seeing spicy fantasy characters like Lust and Anora (design-wise) is one thing, but seeing characters that seem overtly sexualized is another. It gives the game a cheap vibe. Usually, you'd see that with games with no content. But honestly, this game does have content, and it's a shame that anyone would feel embarrassed to play it in public or share it with their friends and family.
@ccgod
3 ай бұрын
The lion wearing a just a loin cloth lol
@DBZeni
3 ай бұрын
Lust was too much but it fit the character. That should be the bench mark. nobody should look more revealing or do nasty sexualized stuff than the embodiment of Lust.
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
Nice point
@MikeWolfMan
3 ай бұрын
"I've seen it all, I've heard it all " I'm not phased by these cinematics or Aesthetics. It could be more extreme than it already is , but it's not. I've known hardcore extremes , and I've known modesty and humbleness. Coming from a Gothic background, allot of this is just fashion and theatrics to me. If people think there needs to be a censorship in the game, so be it. But make it an option. Put something in settings for the shy types. For the rest of the community, let them see what they want to see. There's more cartoonish games out there with more raunchier content. So, WOR hasn't crossed the line yet. If it ever comes to that? Like I stated; make it an option for censorship by choice in the settings. Not doing that Praetus hashtag lol but yeah I watched the whole thing.
@Crispymemes
3 ай бұрын
Its a pretty simple problem to solve, have an opt in popup where you have to prove your age and tick a box to see the game as it is. Create age appropriate skins for people whe dont want to see it or are not old enough to get approved to see it. These types of games tend to keep a majority adult and late teen player base, due to their pay to win nature and the ammount of $$ the average player uses.
@DK3Plays
2 ай бұрын
Don’t know if it has been mentioned but in China certain things are heavily moderated and censored. So people find creative ways to fit them in other places. In Japan however, **** is part of the culture.
@fastidious_gg
2 ай бұрын
this is really interesting hadnt thought about that
@MomchilSt
2 ай бұрын
The only time I felt slightly ...hmmm... intrigued was when watching Lust cinematics and there is this ... "thing"?... hanging between her legs. So for a moment I wondered if Moonton has a ...hmmm... big "surprise" for Arrogance at the end of the scene...:) Then I remembered it's a Chinese game, so felt secure for our red boy.
@LockdownWOR
3 ай бұрын
This is actually something I have talked about, I don't mind 'sexy' skins from time to time, but would be nice to mix it up. Like Indrils new skin achieves nothing, but imagine if they put her in like a Ghillie Suit instead it would just look really cool.
@CaffeinatedCodeMonkey
3 ай бұрын
Some is fine but I think we can all agree we want the game to grow. Over sexualizing the game will limit how many people want to pick it up. The Idril skin is too far but the idea of an optional skin is a good compromise, you can have it if you want but don’t have to. Imo, sexualizing a cc that didn’t ask for it is gross and highly inappropriate, sexualize the characters you make not the cc’s that play your game! #shirtlesspraetus
@SupaPoopaScoopa
3 ай бұрын
WOR art is fantastic, but... While sex sells, it fails to give a product any unique or memborable identity. Aesthetically Wor characters are easily as good as Raid's (My benchmark). But Raid's characters designs are more believable, due to the accessories and textiles typically describing that they belong to their own culture or society. In the long term people will become more attached to what makes the designs unique.
@NickiDecuyper-ex6yb
3 ай бұрын
Stop whining About this lol really…. We need more of this, it makes this game even better then it already is
@RonaldFields-et2xb
2 ай бұрын
For me theres nothing wrong with it, and this isnt a pg game...
@fastidious_gg
2 ай бұрын
@@RonaldFields-et2xb what if every cinematic had tentacles in it? Point of the vid is that there clearly is some line and it’s different forever one. Just opening a conversation
@RonaldFields-et2xb
2 ай бұрын
@@fastidious_gg I see ur point I'm not here trying to argue and honestly J is setting beside his wife his probably not going to give his true opinion I do understand alot of foreign players do not like this because I've played alot of mobile games and the majority of foreign people complain about showing skin but we all have our own opinions...
@Jasx_501
3 ай бұрын
#shirtlesspraetus I'm all for some level of sex appeal, it's great to have appealing characters, and if the character can work that sex appeal into their theme (Lust), then awesome, do it. But I think Idril and Anora really pushed the limits for me. With Idri the panties are just silly and Livian's cutscene is excessive. If they had taken a different approach with Livian (showing she can be sexy but also strong and a stalwart defender), then I'd be more ok with it bc it shows thought put behind it and not just eroticism. You're right that this is a nuanced discussion so I hope people can remain civil and understanding about it.
@mikehernandez5900
3 ай бұрын
Definitely not too sexy. Just the right amount of fan service. The Livian cutscene is completely tame compared to other, more highly regarded games like Baldur's Gate 3. No objections to the nipple tassels. Bikini armor is the bread and butter of MMOs. Idril's base skin is fantastic, and her skin super sexy and alluring. And let's talk double standards. The focus is on female models, but Wrath's skin shows more chest than Idril, not to mention Arrogance, Krodor, and the rest of the bare chest bros. Finally, its also a cultural spectrum. What's acceptable to western audiences may not be to Chinese audiences, and what's not acceptable to western audiences may be no big deal for Korean audiences. And at the end of the day, I'm not sticking with the game for the character models, but the gameplay.
@Azhalan
3 ай бұрын
I guess this is more of a problem in the US than it is in Europe or eastern Asia. Apart from that, the target group for gacha games are adults or at least that's how it should be. And I guess it draws more people in than it drives away.
@danielnelson3136
Ай бұрын
I don't mind for the most part. Few issues though are just how they market and ad the games now, like they all got to be 80-99% nearly naked. Like we get as gamers and fans we see plenty of fan service in game, but just don't be so aggressively marketing it at our faces out of game like WTF! And secondly it has to make sense in the lore and in the world, like I get it for Lust it fits to be that sexy, but for Idril who's the best archer in the realm the new skin makes her the best stripper of the realm, like WTF immersion breaking bro!😂
@coltongreen8697
2 ай бұрын
Like was said, they want to appeal to a larger audience. The more "racey" you get, the more people you'll get who tune out. I wouldn't let my kids play games like this. If you want to play h***ai games, you can go download those games. I dunno... if I wouldn't be comfortable showing my wife, I think it's over the line. Anora's cinematic, Idril's skin, and even Lust all cross that line. We all like boobs and butts, obviously. But there are other places we can go to see that. Find ways to make characters sexy/unique without showing off the goods... or tentacles. EDIT: I have shown many of these characters to my wife. She LOVES Laya to the point of wanting to cosplay her. She's not a gamer but she appreciates (as well as I) the sexiness and design of characters like Laya.
@Spriggan117
3 ай бұрын
They can push the envelope more. If people dont like it they could possibly add a filter/censor option.
@SassyEmotions
3 ай бұрын
THE GRANDMA STRATS! 😂
@SassyEmotions
3 ай бұрын
#ShirtlessPraetus
@OlePittyP
3 ай бұрын
I think more skins are cool. I know the stats are meh to them but I’d rather see the old idril rather than the new so I don’t use her skin. Make the stats like the bond skill. You unlock the skin you gain the stats regardless of you use it.
@Mastermind-g9q
3 ай бұрын
Lust is fine for me because it's in her name. Anora, the cinematic is a bit above but her design is great. Livian, i haven't really notice and it's fine. Idril, Seraphina is like going too far. They should tone it down. Vierna, Dahlia is great design.
@marcoschaffer8630
3 ай бұрын
As a european ... i dont understand the discussion at all 😂
@Shin1375-jg2zk
3 ай бұрын
As an Asian… I don’t understand why Americans always care about this either😂
@Shin1375-jg2zk
3 ай бұрын
It’s a global game man! Per my understanding for gacha game, I don’t believe a lot people will complain this in east Asia. And this game is also come from east Asia (Shanghai).
@freejsjj
3 ай бұрын
Think Anora is a bit overkill, Livian is a bit overkill. But Lust is okay, just because she's the embodiment of Sin
@Aerobor
3 ай бұрын
I agree with many of the points in this video. I think Lust was fine since she is the embodiment of the sin, but they’ve definitely been going the “sex sells” route. Some of the new female characters, like Jeera, are ok; the Idril skin is definitely a step too far. #shirtlesspraetus
@cameronmcmichael5386
3 ай бұрын
There is a lot of sexualisation. I think lust is fine as she is supposed to be queen of hell basically so embodiment of evil. Dalia I also think is fine girl queen of thorns. The anora ymiret video is maybe a bit much but I get they wanted to illustrate a different type of relationship and thus bond. Maybe due to society just now. The new idril skin is maybe a bit much tho, I agree as I think for who she is, being not so in your face actually works for her. Being god tier epic but looks like nothing special, hidden gem. Livian vid I agree maybe bit much but she gets covered so could be worse. They are making a lot of sexualisation for new skins and heroes since lust tho. I don’t mind personally however. I think it’s good to illustrate powerful women.
@AlienArtistMooki3
3 ай бұрын
As a woman I dont mind skins like this, and lets be real sex sells. But things can be sexy AND unique, better yet sexy and badass, Idril of all the epics deserve a badass skin(no im not bias lol)
@Tomisloove
3 ай бұрын
For me this is still ok and just within the boundaries and actually I think it has good fun with it. This game celebrates the beauty female form, while other games are deliberately making female characters "ugly" - look up the Tomb Raider controversy, even Horizon... there's a big list. Also with all the DEI nonsense that's invaded entertainment, this game is a breath of fresh air in not giving a crap and having fun. And Fasti.... softcore shows nipples and much more :) And japanese cartoons are waaaaay more overdoing it.
@aneloxide5686
2 ай бұрын
So... I will say I went HARD in this game to get that Idril skin. However, it's so hard to tell in gameplay that she's as sexual in while playing. I will also say -- if you do this do the female chars, give us some smoky guy skins, too. Like, a Yellowstone flannel Lucius with some *sweet* pecs, maybe abs with the chaps are still a prize.
@jeffzeiler346
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, maybe its just my pulls; but I'm really not bothered about the sexy characters being sexy. I liked the new Idril skin, and I did a bit of extra grinding to get it. I could not get enough folks to sign up to earn the new abomination skin; its not at all sexy, but its cool. I'm not bothered that the game includes sexy characters; but I want to pull characters that are effective and useful. If they are hot, that's a plus. I would move on to a new game, if the game got infected with woke, Sweet Baby style uglification and censorship.
@itsmeLace
3 ай бұрын
Midan has the most decent outfit for real
@gitagupta7460
3 ай бұрын
Constant
@itsmeLace
3 ай бұрын
@@gitagupta7460 yup, also constance
@ROKWrestling
3 ай бұрын
Normally, I wouldn't judge something as "too sexy" as long as it doesn't infringe on obscene or compromise the overall art style or character design, but lately, it has become a little too much. I agree that Lust design is "on brand," but even her design could have been more tasteful. For me, the line was crossed with Idril, I have the skin, and I reverted to the base model as it's much more cohesive in design and very well executed and she's still an attractive character. I am not a fan of Enora or Dalia. their designs to nothing for me. And the Enora cinematic is just not appealing.
@TheGoblord
3 ай бұрын
There's definitely a balance to be struck here. On one hand, there's more allowed nudity in PG-13 movies than I see in this game. On another hand, I think there could be more balance around character designs fitting their character theme. Why aren't there more heavily armored female characters? Why aren't there more less-clothed Conan style heroes? Consider an amazing award winning game like Baldur's Gate 3, where full-on relationships, full nudity, and intimate scenes are a feature of the game. It won how many awards, including game of the year? Food for thought.
@buzzsawkhan
3 ай бұрын
While you make a good point, I think there is a natural counterpoint in that you mention "Why aren't there more heavily armored female characters"... I mean, there are, but they don't hold people's memory. I'm thinking specifically of Isolde, who is both a great epic lord and a very sensibly armored female.
@Itamaru
3 ай бұрын
wdym, watcher faction have alot of armoured female char
@TheGoblord
3 ай бұрын
@@Itamaru My comment wasn't that there were not heavily armored female characters available. It was my opinion that there could be more balance between the two. I enjoy the character designs of almost all the characters and the art style.
@TheGoblord
3 ай бұрын
@@buzzsawkhan There are quite a few that are excellent, even in the current meta.
@dorakinwarhammer2946
3 ай бұрын
Lets face things. 1) Sex sells 2) majority of people who play these games are young teens- men. Interesting that the "rating" that has been assigned to it is teen. That rating for real? Compare to M games of the current day. Does an M rating mean you have blood, gore, violence and sexual themes? Or does one component qualify for it? i don't know. Other than the sexual themes, I don't think WOR crosses the other aspects common in M rated games.
@adamusmohr4235
3 ай бұрын
Fastittyus at it again.
@fastidious_gg
3 ай бұрын
im the og titties in this game tbf
@fluxrono1811
3 ай бұрын
most of the time i dont mind the sexual stuff, even lust while I dislike I understand it as well, her name and the sin she represents made it make sense for the design, but it was OVER the top with Anora and her animations, especially when her character screen had her ass jiggle every freaking time, that was gross I did not need to see that every time, I summon or go to her character. BUT I also want to say that if the game keep doing this barely clothed girl they need to do it with the men too, and I don't just mean shirtless like arrogance, I mean barely anything like Idreals skin, giggle physics, etc. if they cant do both then they should do one. They need to do it similar to Dislyte, where they have a good overall balance of everything (not perfect but good) and while dislyte does embrace the adult side of players overall (can explain more if you wanted) somehow the game is still less sexual then WoR. i could play dislyte in public and not be worried about my whats on my screen nearly as much as i am when playing WoR. And Dislyte still has a majority of sexy girls but i would say they arent anora level, or idreal skin level (though aphrodite is a pretty close one similar to how lust is) then from the end where you said husbands make money, if they want money more werewolves and lizard-folk will help that, furries love anthro heroes. which is one thing dislyte had dipped into for. they had a whole thing with one tiger hero during the china release
@itsmeLace
3 ай бұрын
I can't imagine female characters dressed with jackets and full cover tho😅
@aleyn1975
3 ай бұрын
It will limit the game for kids who’s parents pay attention to such things. It cuts off a potentially large part of the gaming community. Financially it’s a bad idea. You don’t add players with the t and a. You could add players by keeping it adolescent friendly. How much money do they want to make?
@Wesgarbarwil1420
3 ай бұрын
When Lust was announced there was a bit of controversy about the design but i get it. It makes sense for the chatacter. Idril's skin though is pretty gross. I'm not offended or anything, I just think it's a skin based purely on sex and does nothing for the character. I much prefer the original. I think it's important to not censor artistic direction, but I think they need to think "does everything need to be sexy?".
@DrSling1869
3 ай бұрын
I tend to agree with J&Gio here. I think Anora was kinda the line for me- she's so incredibly suggestive that I wouldn't pitch this game to my teenage son. I think, for the games longevity sake, they should leave Anora as the line.
@JAndGio
3 ай бұрын
Yeah I struggle suggesting this game to my family too.
@Tyron-u9c
3 ай бұрын
i see alot of ppl saying they dont mind "sexy" and i totally agree but there is a few champs and well cutscenes that are abit too edgy if i can put it like that its a fine line i guess...altho the begining of anora cutscene to be honest i dont like it much moonton must give us sexy at times but lets not push it too far lets try and keep every1 happy regarding the designs of hereos which so far moonton hitting it out the ball park for me personaly maybe except idrill lol but in general in gameplay il say again wor is a amazing game and if u give this game a try u wont regret it
@donaldwalb4473
3 ай бұрын
Also one last thing not everything is for everybody
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