in the engagement part, he basically talks about the principle of war of continuity of action. if you engaging, go all the way in, no going back until mission is done.
@tango75141
9 ай бұрын
This is identical to Paul Vunak's Progressive Fighting Systems, which has been taught to many police and military organizations. I wonder if there was ever any interaction?
@nightrod2237
2 ай бұрын
It’s almost identical , good system .
@benji4608
9 ай бұрын
Haganah is not a fighting style it is the name of the armed resistance forces that later became the IDF. "Haganah fighting" is krav maga (translated close combat). The founder of krav maga, Imi Lichtenfeld, was the chief combat instructor in Haganah.
@KeyserSoze23
9 ай бұрын
This is what I'd consider a supplemental martial art. I believe you would need a good base in a sports based martial art like Muay Thai or Boxing before learning this, as the instructor himself has.
@drfrancovalento7545
9 ай бұрын
Not really, the system stands on its own, even thou it borrows from other systems we modify and adapt for urban street fight/ self defense we train folks from the simple to the complex. It has the elbows and knees of Muay Thai, the head butts of Combat Sambo and Krav Maga weapon disarms, ground survival ( BJJ on steroids). I trained military members and civilians for years in these systems and one of our students was deployed in Asia applied the system and returned home to say the least. Trained housewives to SF and they all get it quickly. Drill, drill, drill! It’s an amazing system that stands alone and supercharges your foundational and background fighting art. It helps knowing Muay Thai, Judo or BJJ it makes it quicker to pick up but not necessary. Godspeed!
@lewisb85
9 ай бұрын
I train Krav maga and Kapap at my local Israeli martial arts centre but I also train bjj and kudo at a MMA club, I partly agree with you, you need to learn what it feels like to get hit full force.
@suonllenlee665
3 ай бұрын
More martial arts instructors should be like this guy. He breaks everything down to make sure you understand every aspect of the lesson.
@Carl-p7z
3 күн бұрын
Dog looks very sceptical. "Is he gonna fight this giy or not? Should i help him or not? Are they just playing a very boring game or will this kick off for real? I better keep hanging around in case it kicks off".
@clarencesammah5443
9 ай бұрын
Thats a very well behave dog.
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
He is a cute dog as well :)
@clarencesammah5443
9 ай бұрын
When you demostrated that you always have yr left hand up to protect your neck. However i notice that you tend to have your guarding hand with your palms facing out thus exposing yr radial ateries to slicing attack. Should one then ensure that their guarding hand have palms inward to avoid this?
@drfrancovalento7545
9 ай бұрын
Trained with MLK and became a MIA in Haganah and loved the practicality, efficiency then further trained CT 707 KM with SGM Nir MAMAN and it was a blast! I love the POR of Haganah and the knife defense of CT 707 are superb. Train in Jiu jitsu, Hapkido and striking arts and the Israeli art supercharged them! The knife fighting fundamentals remind me of Silat/ FMA…
@lewisb85
9 ай бұрын
Knife fighting is part of kapap though.
@DarinWaugh2x
2 ай бұрын
Great episode! Thanks!
@dababy4182
9 ай бұрын
I can see some people criticizing the combo at 3:15 for being too long, remember in kickboxing we also practice long combos so we can actually do 2-3 of actions in a fight. Long combos are necessary.
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
He also discussed how this is just a drill and meant to streamline a series of techniques but there is a lot of stuff I couldn't fit in the video.
@dababy4182
9 ай бұрын
@@inside_fightingTotally understandable. What I love about this and you also covered in previous videos, is that people like you and him have solid fundamentals in striking and grappling via sports bjj/kickboxing competitions. I can see how you and him are not bullshitting with those sequences of self defense drills.
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
@@dababy4182 I think having a base in a combat sport is probably the best fundamentals you can develop. The self defense training compliments it greatly.
@jacobharris954
9 ай бұрын
@@inside_fighting I disagree. Street combat and combat sports generate two different variables, and former generates infinite amount variables it is the difference between falling deeper in the ocean I.e street combat or falling deeper in a swimming pool I.e combat sports. The former deals in non consensual violence home invasion, muggings and sexual assaults , the latter deals with consensual violence. I.e fist fights.. You use force on force training or scenario for the former and free sparring for latter
@danace7273
8 ай бұрын
Great video! Just discovered and subscribed to the channel and I’m really enjoying the content.
@Foreverwhitebelt8o5
9 ай бұрын
Great content llan, once again it never misses. I always look forward to your videos When I come from work. Fingers crossed that’ll you’ll able to release instructionals on your speciality blend of self defense.
@adam28171
9 ай бұрын
That’s refreshing to see HaganaH reviewed. I’d like to also see videos on Albert Timen’s Kapap, Nir M - Krav Maga (Burton Richardson trained with him) and Hisardut which is rarely seen nowdays all reviewed.
@davidiz1980
9 ай бұрын
Good video on a martial art I never heard of before
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated
@brentr926
9 ай бұрын
Great stuff, really liked that guns and knives are an integral part of the system.
@Pifagorass
9 ай бұрын
Good separation of combat sports and self defence systems. Big overlap but also lot's of differences. Still was not able to hear KM and this particular system comparison 😂
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
Hahaha i think it’s very similar tbh
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
One one main point is they are offensive with weapons and train to be offensive whereas Krav Maga is more defensive
@lewisb85
9 ай бұрын
@@inside_fighting It's kapap under a different name lets be honest.
@D--man
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Interesting system!
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@user-ud9tk4qg6t
9 ай бұрын
Great content, Ilan. This instructor is excellent as well. 👍👍 as always.
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
Thank you 💪🏼
@peekaboojujitsoo525
9 ай бұрын
Please do a video on Muay Chaiya. It has similarities to 52 blocks and the peekaboo.
@stevenlowe3245
2 күн бұрын
No training is too brutal short of causing permanent debilitating injury.
@warrennicholsony.fernando4513
9 ай бұрын
I'd like to ask what's the difference between Haganah and Krav Maga?
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
Haganah as he explained it has more offensive tactics... aka they will use their gun offensively and train it... room clearing etc... same for knife fighting... they will train more with the knife as opposed to defending it.
@gw1357
9 ай бұрын
@@inside_fighting "Haganah" literally means "The Defense" in Hebrew. It was the name of the militia that became the Israeli Defense Force when Israel became a state. "Krav Maga" literally means "close combat." "K rav" means combat, so you see it in other variant arts as well. It really all just equates to "combatives" though specifics vary instructor to instructor.
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
@@gw1357 i speak Hebrew fluently and grew up there when i was a kid 😅 Krav Maga in Israel in the army is very different and very basic tbh… they exported it to civilians and did a great job marketing it but military purposes of Krav Maga are just to get you confident with basics.
@gw1357
9 ай бұрын
@@inside_fighting lol cool...did you serve in the IDF? I've heard others say the same thing. That Krav Maga in the IDF is basically just to teach aggression, not technique.
@lewisb85
9 ай бұрын
@@inside_fighting So same as KM and Kapap then? There's KM and Kapap offshoots like urban KM, Dennis survival, Haganah etc.
@SoldierDrew
4 ай бұрын
The Itay Gil method of Protect Krav Maga is tier 1 with the only efficient, effective, knife defenses I've ever seen. And I've been practicing martial arts and combat sports since 1982. Taught combatives in the Army. Survived 14 years in a notorious violent prison. Lived in a 3rd world latin american country. Witnessed more murders and survived more life or death conflicts than I've done anything else on earth. Itay Gil Protect Krav Maga is the only Israeli defense school I'd cosign. Todah. Shalom.
@gharm9129
26 күн бұрын
lmao put down the meth
@rockybabcock7479
9 ай бұрын
"...no be there" (Nariyoshi Miyagi)
@TheVixen8806
Ай бұрын
Ngl, the Krav Maga system I am learning and teaching looks almost identical to this.
@dannyharris9897
9 ай бұрын
Great stuff 😎. Finally, someone showing get out of the line of fire with a gun disarm. I automatically dismiss anyone that doesn't teach that. However, in my own practice I find my best opportunity to take the gun is when I first take the initiative, meaning hand(s) on the gun. I find "shocking them" usually is when they get a better grip on the gun, making it harder to take away. Does anyone have a different experience and how do you make "the shock" more effective???
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
I always was taught to offline and grip the slide and there under grip the handle but same as with a knife if you don't "disrupt" them then the gun ain't coming out :)
@Voxclamantis
7 ай бұрын
Love this video. Haganah FIGHT/Apex is super.
@davidiz1980
9 ай бұрын
Are you going to do a video on enshin karate ?
@eddiebrevo
9 ай бұрын
Amazing reminders and key tips for old and new in this video! =) I remember first studying JKD about 32 yrs ago. We incorporated a lot of Filipino martial arts (arnis, kali, escrima, dumog, etc), Muay Thai, BJJ, judo, boxing, wrestling, savate, etc...list goes on and we were fortunate to have our JKD instructor (Pete in Toronto) be so diversified and also encouraged us at that time to continue learning other arts as JKD encourages. New subbie here and loving your content. Im going to binge watch your vids in the next few days/weeks!!! ;) Keep up the amazing work and shout out from Toronto and Montreal!
@Riqtube
9 ай бұрын
Heard of Haganah but never seen it. Looks very similar to Panantukan/Kali/JKD up close (especially how he shells with the elbows), we like the foot traps with off-balances too. Very nice. Looks like a blend of that and Muay Thai (but maybe that is just this instructor's personal flavor on it). 👌
@angelocarantino4803
9 ай бұрын
Sounds good, i dont see anything id want to add but its always fascinating to see how more sporty styles of videos are different to self defense styles
@ckwilliams2440
2 ай бұрын
This Haganah was created by Mike Lee Kanarek a guy i’m proud to call friend and brother in arms. The orev 2 sicari knife As well as others created by Mike and Nir are the most awesome combat knives made today. Haganah is so much more than just hand to hand and weapons fighting. It includes anti-terrorism, more weapons and survival. Mike was also on america’s deadlieast warrior isreali masad vs navy seals. Thank you for showing this great complete warrior style.
@SachaGreif
9 ай бұрын
It’s weird to me to spend so much time on the technical details of a self defense scenario without ever once talking about the context. Are you a police officer? Civilian? Bouncer? Are you ready to kill the other person? Just want to ensure your own safety? Do you fear for your life? How much force can you legally exerce? My big issue with most self defense is that these parameters are rarely discussed, or if they are it’s not the part that typically makes it on to KZitem…
@luxurybuzz3681
9 ай бұрын
Legality is a complicated issue when it comes to self defense. Each country and state has it's own laws.
@inside_fighting
9 ай бұрын
He did talk about it but this video was already 20 minutes so I had to choose the parts I assumed people would be most interested in.
@SachaGreif
9 ай бұрын
@@inside_fighting good to know! By the way one reason why I think your video about your street encounter in Portugal was so interesting was that you did include all those details about the context, your mindset, your goals, not wanting to injure the other party too much, fear of revenge, etc. To me these are all a lot more interesting than physical techniques, but maybe that's just me!
@Community_Guideline_Violator
9 ай бұрын
I can see some koryu uchinadi karate influence in that first engagement drill.
@lewisb85
9 ай бұрын
As someone who has trained Krav Maga and Kapap for nearly 20 years like with Dennis survival, Urban Krav maga etc the haganah system is just a offshoot of those.
@benji4608
9 ай бұрын
Imi Lichtenfeld, the founder of Krav Maga, was the chief combat instructor for the Haganah (which was a paramilitary organisation, not a fighting system).
@lewisb85
9 ай бұрын
@@benji4608 It feels like a rebrand for me so they don't have to involve themselves in the KM or Kapap organisations so they can pick and mix from both syllabuses.
@dylan.-6527
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, i was taught to cover your artery. Along with alive hand. I saw thst kid in the mall, knife video. It was sad.
@19mindmechanic55
9 ай бұрын
Interesting. Krav Maga was developed as a military system in a life or death (kill or be killed) situation. It was not developed for training in a shopping mall with soccer parents observing and accepting - soccer parents are probably not so comfortable seeing their children taught how to kill. Also, it is hard to know where and what the instructor learned that serves as a basis for the so-called Krav Maga training (by the way, just because the instructor may be Israeli is not a guarantee that he or she was actually trained, or well-trained). Similarly, I have seen videos of experts talking about krav maga as a mediocre martial art. However, they are talking about what is trained as krav maga in the shopping malls. True krav maga is not going to be taught, in all likelihood, to the public. Even in, much less outside of Israel. Having said all that, it was very interesting to see this other (new?) Israeli martial art, which is explicitly self-defense oriented. The instructor was also interesting, in that he does not "look like" your typical martial arts instructor. Other than being a tall guy, he looks like any run of the mill professional or dad, which is also a plus. The things demonstrated were both interesting, and I think effective. One thing from krav maga that, although he didn't say it explicitly, is that you always move forward, take the aggression to the attacker, and keep attacking until he or she is incapable of doing any more harm. This was your third video that I watched, and as you noted, after three we should "like" and subscribe. So I did. The other two - the last one was the Italian family-passed-down knife fighting (great stuff) and the first had to do with a prison-based fighting style. But I like how you present martial arts - unlike a show I saw a day or two ago in which two guys 'graded' martial arts for effectiveness as self-defense systems. I understood the concept, but there are so many problems with that, including disrespect for other styles, that I kind of lost respect for what they were presenting. Your presentations, so far (I am all of a three-time expert) have been more respectful, discussing aspects of martial arts that are or can be useful. You can also discuss what may not be so useful, but do it in a way that doesn't appear like, "I'm all that and they're not."
@caseyryback6932
9 ай бұрын
What if the aggressor fights back??
@sunuvliberty_III
9 ай бұрын
Thumbnail: “is Israeli self defense good?” Me: 🙊
@joaoguilhermebastos519
9 ай бұрын
Nothing out of ordinary. Or perhaps I saw too many fighting techniques already. Anyways, to put a video about an Israeli art you take a position, very subtlety and I'm glad of your """""""choice""""""
@adrianmurray6600
9 ай бұрын
Very interesting, but I'm pretty sure this is just a variation of Krav Maga. This exactly the kind of stuff I saw in Krav when I studied it years ago. I wonder if there is a trademark issue like Gracie Jiu-jitsu vs BJJ.
@lewisb85
9 ай бұрын
Pretty much, most Israeli martial arts (and I say this as someone who has studied KM and Kapap for twenty years) are a modification or combo of KM and Kapap. Or you get like urban KM which is a uk variant KM crossed with BJJ/MMA. A few schools who want to stay out of the influence of the KM federations refer to themselves as "Haganah".
@decluesviews2740
9 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I’d like to see movie with this self-defense system as the inspiration. It would be cool! The obvious difficulty is pressure testing it, since you can’t have guys breaking each others ankles in practice, for example. That doesn’t necessarily mean it wouldn’t be effective, but it does mean it’s difficult to get the complete muscle memory and full repetitions on par with live situations. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on that point. I don’t have any experience with self-defense systems like this one to speak to how it translates into real-life effectiveness.
@MladenMarinov
Ай бұрын
Ha... you guys just reinvented the hot water... Go see battle sambo.
@kendpruitt
9 ай бұрын
Good stuff!
@rotorairgroup8409
4 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as an Isaelli martial art. They are using techniques of many other martial arts but don't have their own.
@inside_fighting
4 ай бұрын
This is true for any martial art... additionally israeli martial arts have heavily evolved on their own to suit their countries specific needs.
@rotorairgroup8409
4 ай бұрын
They use different perspectives but the same techniques. They have not developed or created anything new. @inside_fighting
@inside_fighting
4 ай бұрын
@@rotorairgroup8409 No martial arts creates anything new... Body mechanics are body mechanics... The knife fighting systems taught in israeli military are in fact uniquely developed. I know the creator of some of the elite knife training for specific military units and its very different from other systems and created independently for those situations. Your argument is true of BJJ, Modern wrestling, Judo, Kickboxing, Karate etc... literally all martial arts are heavily influenced by systems that existed before them.
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