My favorite thing that the official Gotham Twitter account said about this reveal was "there's always two Jokers in every deck."
@BoiOfTheSouth
7 ай бұрын
chills
@J22955
7 ай бұрын
Wym
@K33L4N-B3Y
7 ай бұрын
@@J22955 It's a card joke
@J22955
7 ай бұрын
@K33L4N-B3Y ik that
@rosenbaumquartz
7 ай бұрын
@@J22955 seems like you're the dumbest here since you didn't get it
@F0rtuneLT
9 ай бұрын
>acts like the joker >talks like the joker >sounds like the joker >looks like the joker >does things that the joker would do in the comics >does things that joker *has* done in the comics >not the joker tho, different character thanks warner bros
@not_a_demon
6 ай бұрын
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and acts like a duck, its probably a duck.
@JohnSmith-ox3gy
6 ай бұрын
"I Can't Believe It's Not joker."
@BloodBathhhh
6 ай бұрын
Why couldn’t he be the joker again?
@F0rtuneLT
6 ай бұрын
lots and lots and lots of legal bullshit
@chestermicgun
6 ай бұрын
@@BloodBathhhhlegal reasons
@JoshuaHamilton-m3r
10 ай бұрын
I like to think that Jerome was THE Joker and, before he died, he decided to have one last laugh and turned his brother into, more or less, him. I don’t think Jeremiah is the Joker, just the final joke or last laugh of the actual one.
@letstalkwhy93
9 ай бұрын
Am not sure how you garner so much like for such and absolute ass of an anology....just saying
@diegeticfridge9167
9 ай бұрын
So well said sir, the perfect example of “one bad day”
@3bodYking99
9 ай бұрын
THREE???? I didn't watch the show yet, what do you mean THREE??? There are three different interpretations of the joker in this show, at least by this review, Jerome, jeremiah, and jeremiah after the acid. But not THREE brothers. Is that something in the show?
@wolfranga8477
9 ай бұрын
@3bodYking99 Nope. I am sure he thought Jeremiah, who fell into the acid, was his third brother.
@3bodYking99
9 ай бұрын
@@wolfranga8477 oh, ok. I was really confused. Also, is this show like the origin of batman, and how the city became the hell hole it's known for in the comics?
@fenrirsrage4609
9 ай бұрын
it's still funny to me how Mark Hammil and Cameron Monaghan are foils to each other. The first played a Jedi and went onto be the Joker. Then second played not one but two Jokers in one show before becoming a Jedi.
@cement_eater
7 ай бұрын
Funny enough, Mark Hamill also played multiple Jokers
@louzo5175
2 ай бұрын
Thats so fun!
@petecoogan
2 ай бұрын
Monaghan needs to be given the movie role
@Sarcypoo
Ай бұрын
@@petecoogan Agreed! I think Cameron is one of the best up and coming actors of our generation! I'm excited to see him in more stuff, and would love to see him acting as an animated Joker sometime also, let him loose!
@bryanp5843
Ай бұрын
@@petecooganHe is so underrated. I hope he can reprise the role under James Gunns universe Batman
@janekh1917
9 ай бұрын
I think the actor/character that actually carried was the penguin. Oswald was relevant through the whole story. Generally was a good show imo. Casting was nearly perfect for everyone. The last one or two seasons weren't my style. The showrunners were invested and you can feel it.
@Phil_Mahar
9 ай бұрын
the fights were super bad and cgi was terrible but fr Oswald carried so hard the drama was pretty good Barbara kinna sucked tbh
@dontclickme3057
9 ай бұрын
@@Phil_Mahari couldn’t agree more
@Frogotron
9 ай бұрын
facts
@dane3038
9 ай бұрын
I pretty much tuned in to the show for The Penguin. I never gave two shoots about that villain until Oswald on Gotham. For me, it was the Oswald show. And when he dealt with his father's murderers, it was one of the most cathartic events in TV comic history.
@dontclickme3057
9 ай бұрын
@@dane3038 Yea Oswald carried the show on his back no question about it I’m kinda sad they made him fat though
@longarrowthegreat5230
9 ай бұрын
Camran is one of if not THE most underrated actors I've ever seen. My guy played the Joker TWICE, (And did it AMAZINGLY in my opinion), then went and played Cal Kestis!!! LIKE DANG BRO THAT IS SKILL!!! I truly hope we see more of him in the future.
@brendan9868
9 ай бұрын
He was great in Shameless and the Jedi video games too, good actor
@PlaceHolder007YT
8 ай бұрын
and mark hamill plays a star wars character and the joker too
@cottoncoffin
5 ай бұрын
YESSS HOMIE IS CAL
@cliswp
4 ай бұрын
@@PlaceHolder007YT >a star wars character 🙃
@booyaboibob
3 ай бұрын
Fr
@eugenemonti5755
Жыл бұрын
I love how the two brothers are the both sides of the joker. Jerome I’d the embodiment of life is chaos and is more of the physical (fightwise) than his brother while jerimah is more of the cold calculating intelligence and is the mental/emotional ( trying to break Bruce or mentally torturing selina/Catwoman by paralysing her giving her a bit of PTSD)
@ultimatecultchaos
9 ай бұрын
Chaos
@DoneBrokeDatBack
9 ай бұрын
Jerome is Chaotic Evil and Jeremiah is Lawful Evil.
@Luxembourgish
9 ай бұрын
Jerimiah is lame, the weaker performance of a great actor thought up mid production
@justinbruce4126
9 ай бұрын
@@Luxembourgish I think a big part of the was the show being cancelled and given a considerably smaller time to write the last season
@jordancrooks6752
8 ай бұрын
@@Luxembourgish I mean in 5 Jeremiah started losing his mind and started joking and laughing
@nuyabuisness7526
9 ай бұрын
Cameron Monaghan absolutely killed it (haha) on Gotham. It was part of what made Gotham so much fun to watch. The stories were insane, the character work was soap opera, the whole thing was tongue in cheek. However everyone on screen was clearly committed to the bit and it allowed for masterful suspension of disbelief.
@gateauxq4604
9 ай бұрын
He’s a fantastic actor
@anth636
9 ай бұрын
It’s so weird seeing Cal Kestis as a psychopathic nutcase
@Kaiden_okeefe
9 ай бұрын
@@anth636I know right😅
@Njordin2010
9 ай бұрын
Also no woke shit
@Viltzu-hk5wh
9 ай бұрын
@@anth636 Wait what? Did you not play Survivor?
@dcworld4349
9 ай бұрын
Obviously Ledger was incredible but what Cameron did in his very first episode was to actually play the Joker, and he managed to do it with red hair, no make up and old second hand used clothes. I don't think anyone is going to be able to beat him. He did for live action what Hamill has done for animation.
@dialmformowgli
9 ай бұрын
♡
@scottallen1615
9 ай бұрын
Exactly
@MygodEmperor
8 ай бұрын
Facts
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
8 ай бұрын
He didn't copy hamill either, he did all the mannerisms of COMIC Joker, even referencing some comic covers.
@dcworld4349
8 ай бұрын
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 No he very much did his own thing. What I meant was that if Hamill is the definitive voice performance. Cameron is the definitive live action performance when it comes to bringing the character from the comics to life. Though the references for covers are the writers doing. I'm not actually sure how they got away with it, and WB not forcing Fox to cancel the show by being in breach of contract. Since WB expressly told Fox the Joker was off limits because they didn't want to dilute the brand. And they still managed to find wiggle room and in doing so did what the movie division of WB has never been able to do. It's not gonna happen, but I would love it if Gotham got an Elseworlds stand alone movie in 5-7 years when David is old enough to play Batman. Sure I'd love to see Cameron be the Joker for real in the DCU but that sort of thing never happens either.
@doughnutzaj
9 ай бұрын
It's not just that they don't respect TV as a medium, it's that they own the characters and are very selective in who they trust to write with batman and joker, as shown by the fact they completely chopped up David Ayers version of him in the suicide squad movie because they needed it to be more child friendly. Even Todd Phillips said when he pitched his joker movie the execs didn’t want to do it and were like "you realise that we make millions by putting this character on clothing and selling it to kids right? " they only allowed him a shoestring budget and made him come up with the whole "DC black label " idea just to green light it
@jturner2577
9 ай бұрын
Selective to a ridiculous degree.
@Rad-Dude63andathird
9 ай бұрын
The one time they had a crossover game with Mortal Kombat, they also completely neutered any of the brutality despite their own characters doing some pretty gruesome shit in their own franchises.
@fairlywren3664
9 ай бұрын
@@Rad-Dude63andathirdSee you said that, but clearly you haven't seen MK11 Joker. It wasn't exclusive to Joker, every cast member including all the Mortal Kombat characters weren't allowed to be too violent in that game.
@strictnine5684
7 ай бұрын
@@fairlywren3664that’s because of WB.
@fairlywren3664
7 ай бұрын
@@strictnine5684 Sure was, the point is that the MK characters got the same treatment as the DC characters despite violence being the franchise's MO
@cancerconnoisseur
10 ай бұрын
Jerome had the potential to be the best Joker we ever got on screen, and I will die on that hill. He behaved like Joker, he looked like Joker minus the bleach and makeup. He WAS an excellent Joker. Unfortunately his potential was ruined because of WB.
@InzaneMane
9 ай бұрын
I think, that he didn't even need the bleached skin and the green hair to be Joker. He just looked like him without all of that. I also think he was the best live action Joker ever.
@axzein22
9 ай бұрын
he alone got me tuning in on the show when it was the start of s2
@thesaralkumar
9 ай бұрын
You will find me on that hill
@donalddarko5807
9 ай бұрын
Honestly a lot of the best characters are usually from tv shows since they have more development than movie characters.
@infected1769
9 ай бұрын
They didn’t have the rights to the joker so they had to water him down
@infinty_yt
9 ай бұрын
I loved Cameron's acting in Shameless and the latest Jedi games, and he really showed his acting skills with this role. He's my personal favorite Joker cause he simply killed it. Shame that he'll probably never return. And be aware, Mark Hamill himself expressed that he loved it.
@oppadropaiv2044
8 ай бұрын
For real
@pewpewplasma3793
7 ай бұрын
It was also really sweet to see them interacting in the ads leading up the Jedi sequel game. It’s weirdly poetic how they walk on such similar paths
@rageman69
9 ай бұрын
My favorite character in the show was 100% Alfred. It's a young and new kind of Alfred. We can see through the whole show how he really cares about Bruce and tries to be a father figure, but also just a butler at the same time. The watch scene was the best btw.
@NyxFoxie-tm4lh
7 ай бұрын
I really loved Alfred from the show! As a little side note, I adored that he had an actual British accent rather than the over the top accent that Alfred usually has. (Not that I have any issues with the posh accent Alfred, but as an English person it really solidifies the character in a little bit of reality, being Bruce's anchor.) But my personal favourite was the show's Penguin. I ended up being much less concerned about Gordon and more concerned about Penguin being his angry little self and Alfred trying to raise his surrogate son properly in all of Gotham's chaos.
@joannelee5574
6 ай бұрын
@@NyxFoxie-tm4lh Penguin is FANTASTIC and he’s just so much dang fun to watch, he’s such a cunning but pissy coward and I love him to pieces, one of my favorite characters of all time fr
@NyxFoxie-tm4lh
6 ай бұрын
@@joannelee5574 He's one of the first villains that comes to mind when I think of Batman now! I completely agree, he's ridiculously entertaining and his strange nemesis-friendship he has with Riddler is one of the most interestingly done dynamics I've seen in a while. He's fantastically written.
@Cosmicshambler
4 ай бұрын
Jeremy irons was better
@dream_walker9726
Ай бұрын
@@joannelee5574Oswald literally stole the show and I love him to bits
@12DAMDO
9 ай бұрын
WB: you're not allowed to have Joker Gotham: okay but this is Jerome, not Joker WB: okay.. WB: alright, you're allowed to have Joker now Gotham: so Jerome can be Joker? WB: no because you said earlier he's not Joker.. you didn't lie, did you? Gotham: did i say Jerome? i meant to say Jeremiah.. WB: alright, Jeremiah can be Joker and that ladies and gentlemen, is literally how it happened
@allainangcao28
10 ай бұрын
I think it is an excellent spin on the character which goes out of the usual comic story. Jerome, a representation of the Arthur Fleck side of the story where emotional trauma was the key to being driven insane. Jeremiah, more of the original comics where a dose of chemicals breaks him.
@InitialPC
9 ай бұрын
personally I like to believe jeremiah was already evil, makes him scarier
@InzaneMane
9 ай бұрын
The difference is, that Arthur Fleck wasn't that evil in the Joker movie. He was more of a broken man. Jerome on the other hand was pure evil in the Gotham series. Yes, they both suffered from traumas, but Jerome was more jokeresque to me.
@FingerinUrDaughter
9 ай бұрын
how is it a "spin" to recycle a bunch of different plots from different comics, and apply them to a named character who just acts identically to specific movie versions of the actual character?
@InitialPC
9 ай бұрын
@@FingerinUrDaughter That's like saying Dark Knight Joker is not a spin on the character because he still wears purple and looks like a clown. Just because there are similarities does not mean there are no differences.
@FingerinUrDaughter
9 ай бұрын
@@InitialPC that might be the case, is heath ledger was actually playing the joker based on...anything. but he wasnt, he was just playing his "head cannon" joker, which was not at all representative of the ACTUAL joker. which is why he was a shitty joker, almost as bad as jared leto.
@UhhKevin
9 ай бұрын
One aspect that they merely hinted at was that Jerome's consciousness was part of Jeremiah, which would explain the shift in tone and character between seasons 4 and 5. I always thought it was cool that hearing him argue with himself meant that he was LITERALLY arguing against the ''chaotic'' side of the Joker. Also could explain why J later didn't feel like Jeremiah because he and Jerome possibly became fully ''blended'' after the Ace Chemical incident.
@JohnFromThere
9 ай бұрын
I like how people talk trash about Gotham when its better than most live action dc shows lol
@John-Doe-Yo
9 ай бұрын
Yeah some people can be bitter gatekeepers who don't know how to have fun.
@cement_eater
7 ай бұрын
not a very high bar tbh
@NyxFoxie-tm4lh
7 ай бұрын
@@cement_eater I mean it beats Smallville and Superman and Lois any day of the week. I can remember a few years ago when I tried to convince my parents to turn Superman and Lois off and watch Gotham instead.
@cement_eater
7 ай бұрын
@@NyxFoxie-tm4lh can't speak for smallville but s&l is definitely better than gotham
@NyxFoxie-tm4lh
7 ай бұрын
@@cement_eater I wasn't keen on it, personally. The reason I was begging them to watch Gotham was because they'd rewatched it twice already, and I just wanted them to watch a DC show I liked with me!
@Traveler_202
9 ай бұрын
I think the whole Arkham breakout segment is what really made Jerome cemented as the shows joker, seeing him stand side by side with real classic villains made him seem so much more legitimate
@DarthBludgeon
9 ай бұрын
Cameron did an amazing job with these characters, and next to Ledger is my favorite to take the Joker into the 21st century! Actually, I'd have a hard time criticizing any of the casting for this show; they were all terrific!
@thebossboy1908
9 ай бұрын
jared leto
@daxie__3210
3 ай бұрын
@@thebossboy1908don't tell me he was actually any good as the joker
@thebossboy1908
3 ай бұрын
@@daxie__3210 twas a joke. He sucked
@juancabardo21
9 ай бұрын
Cameron is super underrated and gave a great performance. I think he could sit on the same table as Ledger and Phoenix
@sparkfadingspark
9 ай бұрын
Regardless of WB's annoying little caveats for the show, Jeremiah and Jerome were absolutely the Joker. And Cameron did a fantastic job with the role, definitely one of the better modern performances (sorry Leto fans, assuming there are any). The fact that both brothers are both distinctly different characters, and yet both showed implicit Joker characteristics just shows how layered the character is and that you can take it in many different directions and still be true to character - and it also shows how talented Monaghan was to be able to make both performances ring individualistic and true, and I think it helped that he was clearly a fan of the source material and wasn't afraid to learn from previous performances.
@JBob08
9 ай бұрын
Gotham is an underrated gem and I really hope more people come back to realize that. There were a couple seasons there that were some of the best seasons on TV at the time.
@NyxFoxie-tm4lh
7 ай бұрын
My parents refused to watch it because of the *GODDAMN BALLOON MAN* episode. No matter how much I tried to convince them it would get better... I am cursed by the balloon man.
@slenderboygraveman6437
Жыл бұрын
I love Gotham as a massive Batman fan, this video was super well put together and definitely deserves more attention 👏
@njmusica
7 ай бұрын
I don't care what Warner says, Valeska is the Joker
@Mr_Edward_Hyde
4 ай бұрын
Yeah
@zacklachance17
Жыл бұрын
More Gotham content! Thank you for acknowledging Cameron Monaghan’s legacy, he’s always been my personal favorite Joker.
@strongersmarterandbetter
10 ай бұрын
that's insane lmao he was mid
@irwinhiker5917
10 ай бұрын
@@strongersmarterandbetterbetter than Leto
@strongersmarterandbetter
9 ай бұрын
@@irwinhiker5917 he's still the 2nd worst behind Leto
@irwinhiker5917
9 ай бұрын
@@strongersmarterandbetter nah leto sucks more
@strongersmarterandbetter
9 ай бұрын
@@irwinhiker5917 I know I was saying he's behind him
@_AASQ
9 ай бұрын
I honestly like the idea that the Joker was two people, it's a shame that the execution fell short of what it could have been. Very good characters individually though, I like the personification of two different kinds of insane.
@thelavenderhatter5924
Жыл бұрын
18:32 Ngl Jeremiah’s overall outfit looks awesome. That glitter indigo blue hiding that deep pink is 🤌. Definitely my favorite alternate color scheme for the joker.
@ThatMendezGuy
2 ай бұрын
His 16:59 outfit always screamed animated series joker to me too! Could totally see Mark Hamill’s joker rocking around in that outfit
@MandatoryFruit
9 ай бұрын
Man, the performances in this show were fantastic. To this day Gotham's versions of Penguin and Ruddler are the versions I think of when I hear their names.
@epicsponge7934
7 ай бұрын
“Ruddle me this Batman”
@MandatoryFruit
7 ай бұрын
@@epicsponge7934 Y'know what, I'm not even going to change it. You've exposed me and now I gotta roll with it
@NyxFoxie-tm4lh
7 ай бұрын
I agree, I watched Batman Forever recently and was like "wait???? Jim Carrey???"
@Barneito_123
Ай бұрын
So you're saying that whulst i was collecting riddler trophies i was supposed to be getting ruddler trophies damn it
@MandatoryFruit
Ай бұрын
@@Barneito_123 Skill issue I suppose
@Pat4HUMANITY
9 ай бұрын
This kid got the real Joker. He was far and away the best and truest live-action Joker!
@Mrloophole
8 ай бұрын
That very much could be true🤔
@xsfrosty7226
8 ай бұрын
No he was gay af
@xsfrosty7226
8 ай бұрын
Joker was never gay
@RRRRRRAAAAAAA
7 ай бұрын
@@xsfrosty7226🤨….
@makesthemusic6340
6 ай бұрын
@@xsfrosty7226 Okay? Who cares? Deadass?
@lordmonocr6206
9 ай бұрын
I remember watching one of Cameron’s interviews about what inspired his version of joker and him saying how he was inspired by each one and used previous jokers to make his own was so great. He nailed the characters he played so well
@Adam_r_Johnson
10 ай бұрын
I love Cameron Monaghan's portaral as the joker, and jeremiah is great he really shows that "super sain aspect" but jerome is MY joker. Showing hes smart but still a psyco path, just the laughs and the smiles and his little mannerisms, made me make me love him so much.
@NotMyFormerSelf
7 ай бұрын
This made me want to rewatch the whole show. I'm a huge Batman fan and i liked how they portrayed Penguin and the Riddler aswell. All the actors did a good job! (in my opinion)
@NyxFoxie-tm4lh
7 ай бұрын
The Riddler and Penguin are the best versions in Gotham, in my opinion. They're incredibly developed and I don't think they ever go out of character in their actions.
@mrpumpkinshrimps
5 ай бұрын
Nah, this the giggler
@trulyrandompersonage
22 күн бұрын
the jiggler if you will
@theoutsiderjess1869
9 ай бұрын
I know alot of people prefer Jerome however I preferred Jeremiah he felt more refreshing and actually didn't want to be like his twin but with one bad day does
@DiscipleToki
Жыл бұрын
I think this is the role that made them choose him for IT. Phenomenal performance. Gotham was fantastic!
@DiscipleToki
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewtrawick7532 damn you are right my mistake, if you put them both in clown makeup they look really close. Lol
@spardante791
9 ай бұрын
He's doesn't do ,IT. That's Bill skarsgard
@DiscipleToki
9 ай бұрын
@@spardante791 I discovered this after posting and just never changed it, we all make mistakes so I left mine up to encourage others. Thanks for speaking up and giving me the opportunity. 🥰
@brodie6026
4 ай бұрын
At 8:01 the cult leader with Jerome’s face is actually played by the same guy who Harvey dent interrogates in the dark knight after trying to kill the mayor and instead shooting commissioner Gordon y’all notice that ?
@lordmonocr6206
9 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved what they did with Jerome and Jeremiah(post toxin) both are completely psychotic but driven by different things completely ones way more chaotic while the others more calculating. One wants to kill Bruce but the other wants him to become his brother
@novavr69
4 ай бұрын
Jokers dad is hector salamanca. Shits starting to make sense now
@viinaart
Жыл бұрын
Love the comments that are basically like "never seen the show, that sounds insane" IT IS YOU SHOULD WATCH IT!! Also, I'd love a full Oswald video, he's my favorite Gotham character :D
@Pepsimaaann
9 ай бұрын
Im not a big DC fan and was never able to get very attached to any of the movies and shows but Gotham was just amazing to watch and Jerome is still my current ideal for a joker. The actor is just amazing
@Tony-tq5cz
9 ай бұрын
Man if Fox was smart they'd bring back this show i watched it from Season 1 all the way to the end this show is perhaps tge closest we'll get to a proper Batman live action show this show deserves a revival
@NyxFoxie-tm4lh
7 ай бұрын
There was apparently supposed to be a season 6 but it got cancelled (hence why season 5 feels a bit... shoved together.)
@ericisprobablyfullofshit7797
9 ай бұрын
At the end of the day either or neither of them could be the Joker, and I think that ambiguity was what the writers were going for so job well done. It's in keeping with the uncertainty and almost supernatural air around the Joker as a character. The idea that he's a force of nature, like a hurricane. There is no thee Joker. It's a chaotic force that arises from within humans. In that interpretation the character we know as the Joker never had to hear about these others, let alone be "inspired" by them because that's not how it works. But that's just my head cannon based on all the comics and other media I've consumed. 😊
@godofevil9468
Жыл бұрын
3 things bro #1: Great video. First video of yours i've seen and i'm already gonna subscribe soon as i finish writing this. #2: THIS IS CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED! Been out for 2 days and you still get hardly any attention... unfair. & #3: This video is full of fun parts but i aint gonna lie... i laughed like the joker himself at 3:50 GREAT PART
@Annabellethedoll666
9 ай бұрын
This is the most underrated joker.Cameron is very underrated. I really hope they would make a movie out of this type of joker.
@leewightman8619
Жыл бұрын
I like when he laughs in the intergation room it's exactly the same when heath ledger laughs in the interrogation room in the dark Knight
@giantlizard9158
3 ай бұрын
The jester and the giggler 💀
@ahmedrommani3698
3 ай бұрын
I really love that jerome represents the more twisted and insane side of the joker we all know, but jeremiah is the more intellegent and calculating side that you have to put some thought into understand and clearly see together they are the joker we know and love but individually they are both a part of the joker
@girli-with-an-i
9 ай бұрын
I honestly think that their restrictions are what was able to really push them to achieve this new version of the character, if only they could’ve been allowed to affirm it at the very end, but still
@jordanspencer2157
Жыл бұрын
I've never seen this show, but I'm absolutely cackling at the premise. Also, he comes back to life? Just boom!! "I'm ALIVE!!!" Wild. Crazy. Insane even. I love it.
@HOTD108_
9 ай бұрын
The show actually gives a reason for him not being dead. It's not as crazy as this video makes out. See kids, this is why you can't judge something you haven't seen.
@jordanspencer2157
9 ай бұрын
@HOTD108_ ...so you're saying I shouldn't love it because the show isn't so bold as to simply plop our psychotic baby boy back into existence by popular demand with no explanation and instead re-alives him via the powers of either contrived plot device or a hackneyed retcon. Note taken o' wise 'misconstrueder of genuine glee for poorly executed sarcasm'
@cosmic2750
5 ай бұрын
Cameron Monaghan is such a FANTASTIC actor. He captured the essence of Joker down to the T without actually “officially” being the Joker. The only other one that’s just as amazing was Mark Hamill. Also, I just realized something: Mark Hamill played a Jedi in live action and a Joker in a video game. Cameron played a Jedi in a video game and a Joker in live action.
@aaronpark686
9 ай бұрын
I think it could also be that the producers adapted the idea to the idea of the joker being never-ending. If one dies another rises to continue in their steps.
@phantomsights4533
7 ай бұрын
I think Cameron had so much potential with this version of the Joker. I actually really liked his take and he managed to do it without any makeup or purple suit or green hair. I like it when they take what we’re used to seeing and flip it on its head to give us something new:
@InzaneMane
9 ай бұрын
Best live action Joker ever. Even without the bleached skin and green hair, he nailed it.
@LiveFreeOrDie2A
2 ай бұрын
Joker’s a Super Saiyan?!? So he’s the first green haired transformation we’ve seen wow!
@Master-bk3qd
8 ай бұрын
Personally, I think Jerome not just killing Bruce the first time or try to kill him the first time shows that he really is just insane
@punkcobi8953
9 ай бұрын
I really loved Gothams antagonists. Peak penguin. Fantastic Riddler. Decent Jokers. And super fun goon characters. It was a blast.
@lordmonocr6206
9 ай бұрын
When Jeremiah is explaining to Harvey about the Bombs with his followers behind him in front of the GCPD. There’s one scene where it shows him looking around with the wind blowing and it’s mostly just his face while he says something extremely chilling. That’s one of if not my favorite scene in Gotham. Not even the entire part just that once cut scene was so insanely well done
@jonw8694
4 ай бұрын
6:55 This is literally the ending plot point of The Joker movie, which was wildly successful, and this narrator is saying it is a "really stupid idea".
@daviddrake4715
9 ай бұрын
Gotham was supposed to be all about Gordon's rise through the GCPD. The Bruce to Batman only a small side story within it with some more explanation to the origins of a few of the Rogues gallery. What it ended up being was a great platform for setting up just about every villan for batman, ready and waiting for Gotham's Dark Knight to appear and protect the city. Every one of the villans stole the show from Gordon's story. Cameron IS the Joker for this Universe. The twin spin could easily set up for both Nicholson and Ledger Jokers in those universes
@MegaTech81
9 ай бұрын
The dead man's trigger is actually quite popular in a lot of media. I'm not sure what made you think that Gotham invented it when it's been featured in film and television for decades.
@brandiepop
10 ай бұрын
i wish gotham got a chance to show a proper joker and batman on a bigger budget bc monaghans joker wouldve been so great also gotham is just incredible
@DukeFavre
9 ай бұрын
That was superb!!! You cover EVERYTHING!!!. Thank you so much for doing justice to the show. The Redband trailer, OH BOY!!! I love that
@scipiodriver4076
3 ай бұрын
Tiny nitpick, but the show definitely takes place later than 1999. I mean, we’ve seen that cellphones have become commonplace, and it wasn’t even common for them to be affordable until 1999
@yobud6637
Ай бұрын
8:03 I didn't know how much I'd appreciate it until I heard it, but calling the Joker from the comics the "real Joker" really hit home for me. It's absolutely correct; the comics are the original and the "real" DC universe(s)
@ashhammer2415
9 ай бұрын
Cameron Monaghan's joker was really good. Heath Ledger's Joker is always going to be number 1 in my book, but Cameron did the best TV joker I've seen.
@acieblazeacieblaze4796
20 күн бұрын
This was a great video, having loved and watched the show, I was so confused all these years because they both were everything JOKER without being JOKER.
@marktheredlightning2829
7 ай бұрын
The Chuckle.
@faustoutloud
2 ай бұрын
Bro the Gotham show was one of the best batman shows that cant use the word batman or the joker it was done soooooo well to the writing to the actors to the sets. I absolutely loved this show just wish we went deeper and darker with these characters. God I hope we get a joker batman movie again soon.😊
@SuperJT1985
9 ай бұрын
I liked Jeremiah because after he got gassed I expected to see some kind of downwards spiral but instead became a different kind of evil so quickly that we were left wondering what extent the gas actually changed him with his own insistence that it really didn't.
@standardhuman8675
7 ай бұрын
look, gotham was. something. but the actors fuckin killed it. cameron monaghan had to act against himself, and while the writing wasnt great, the sheer energy carried it also PLEASE make that full length eddie analysis, i need more gotham content
@Mizu_YT7
7 ай бұрын
Dude that russian roulette one is so funny my parents are sleeping and i think ill have a beating tomorrow oof
@geoscorner3567
5 ай бұрын
16:36 damn i didnt know joker went super saiyan
@shadowking9739
9 ай бұрын
Cameron Monaghan should've gotten an Emmy or something. He was incredible!
@ijneb1248
2 ай бұрын
16:34 "I'm going super saiyan, Batman!"
@etherealceleste
9 ай бұрын
Cameron wasn't the Joker, he was ALL of the Jokers.
@davidgraham8299
4 ай бұрын
This actor is my favourite joker. Cameron killed it every time he was on-screen. Simply the best.
@iloverule3483
9 ай бұрын
Dawg, what is Cal Kestis doing in Gotham?💀💀💀
@puppyash9656
2 ай бұрын
I think Cameron does a great job here, paying homage to both Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger, combining them into this one unified Joker. didn't we all see Nicholson in the scene where Jerome first smiles?
@Ahrone1586
6 ай бұрын
Why dc doesnt want joker or batman mention in gotham?
@Bendylover414
5 ай бұрын
Are they stupid?
@nonyabisness6306
6 ай бұрын
probably my second favorite Joker. I knew the Actor from Shameless and while he did great there I was suprised how deep he was able to go on this. Really good performance.
@dreadedpunk3473
9 ай бұрын
Gotham is THE DC live action series. The characters might not be "comic book accurate" to a tee, but what the TV series nails is the atmosphere of the city itself. It's soo noir, so, corrupt, so menacing. Yet it's also charming and colorful. Interesting, and engaging. And Cameron was one of the definitive Joker's of all time. Hands down on par with Ledger for me and Hamill's, animated performances.
@pancakes8670
3 ай бұрын
I actually like the idea of Joker being split into two twin brothers. I feel like you could get a lot of story potential out of that.
@viggo8213
Жыл бұрын
Hector is his dad? Joker is a Salamanca?
@ChrisM-yq2pq
3 ай бұрын
The jokers are the cousins
@BLKW4RDR3M0N
4 ай бұрын
I constantly would joke amongst my friends and call Gotham "Jim Gordan, super cop"
@vulpinitemplar5036
9 ай бұрын
I actually really like how the simple rule of not using the Joker let them come up with two pretty solid Jokers, although having the look and attitude and such of the Joker, generally speaking of course, is nice we need more of these creative twists because what you do with the idea of the Joker is what makes him all that more fascinating.
@rafindeed
9 ай бұрын
i really like how they didnt referenced one joker, they referenced all the joker. that scene was heath ledger like but right after he is back to classic goofy joker. amazing character.
@kidkold7242
9 ай бұрын
The answer is yes Cameron Monaghan is the second coming of Mark Hamill
@JocaWars
9 ай бұрын
LOL I agree in a way, he channels very DCAU Joker as Jerome and he’s severely underrated.
@kidkold7242
9 ай бұрын
@@JocaWars the dudes also a Jedi so like I said the second coming
@jahcode6132
6 ай бұрын
Dude Cameron was so freakin good playing the Jeroker.
@johnoliverfainsan3115
9 ай бұрын
I would love to watch your video on Oswald Cobblepot. Gotham really made him stand out and entertaining.
@davidagudelo2435
9 ай бұрын
12:30 During this conversation Jeremia also says the Joker line: Im ThE JoKeR BaBy!
@rick6083
10 ай бұрын
Cam just played that role great I wish they'd let him play him in something
@lilgibbyvert349
7 ай бұрын
Cameron if given an actual live action appearance as joker in movies. He could be the best joker and I will die on that hill.
@MuriloAraújo-j2x
7 ай бұрын
He is a good actor but idk if he would be the best.
@KillerCornMuffin
7 ай бұрын
At the end of the new 52 run batman sits in the Mobius Chair and asks the identity of the Joker. Turns out there are three. So the twins theory is completely plausible.
@Gigabatchad
3 ай бұрын
Thats only canon to that paticular batman series
@RANDOM-ou6ez
4 ай бұрын
I think the actor said that since Jerome was stabbed in the throat when he first died, he made his voice more like that
@mileslugo6430
9 ай бұрын
They literally have a story line in the comics where there are 3 separate but equal Versions of the Joker. The Monster, the guy who paralyzed Barbara(or the comedian), and the guy who beat/killed Jason Todd. Now there are 2 pre-year 0 versions of the Joker who are twins.
@gregbaynum7335
5 ай бұрын
It’s in interesting subplot that Joker becomes a Jedi Knight later in the timeline 💀
@Alexandxer_14
5 ай бұрын
I think Cameron Monaghan does an excellent job as the “Joker” in the series. You can clearly distinguish the difference between both characters with their mannerisms and tones, one is crazy the other is more calculated, but Cameron does some great work in his scenes, an absolute scene stealer. For me, hand down the best scene in the whole series is THAT interrogation scene with Jim, Leslie and Jerome, his acting is thrilling
@Sinreven
9 ай бұрын
i still get a chuckle when someone mentions that WB does not like TV as a medium, when most of their recent films have been bad or just mid AF
@danielcrump8254
4 күн бұрын
Cameron Monaghan did an awesome job in this show. I personally prefer the Jarome interpretation of the Joker, but the fact that Monaghan was able to play it effectively both ways is a big props to him. Hes up there with the very best live action Jokers to me
@greendude7650
2 күн бұрын
Exactly he has a heart of gold no one can say he didn't do his best and if they do then why is he the Joker.
@user-qh4bv2ib8e
9 ай бұрын
In never realized this joker on the thumbnail looked like Cal Kestis
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