Mold illness is an extremely costly issue to resolve in terms of money, time, energy, and attention. Chris isn’t the only practitioner who understands we may need to save money on tons of testing to be financially judicious for steps that really help move the needle further for healing. Just don’t go on vacation to a moldy place or stay in a moldy hotel. Sometimes just going to a Costco or forest preserve for a few hours is enough evidence.
@chrismasterjohn
Жыл бұрын
I’m not a practitioner to be clear.
@clemensh6214
10 ай бұрын
I think moving a time away from your apartment is even more effective in testing because it could be that you haven't a mold problem but you are allergic to some chemicals e.g. Wallcolor etc. So if you move to an apartment without this Wallcolor you will feel better. I think its important to not only move for 1-2 Days because if you have long term symptoms like fatigue it takes a time until you are recovered so I would recommend to stay in another house for 2-4 Weeks. By the way: For those who can't afford another apartment for a few weeks a cheap solution could be living in a tent for some weeks if it isn't to cold.
@cathycooke
Жыл бұрын
You bring up some really good points here Chris, but as a Building Biologist/Mold Inspector, I see how mold can get extremely complicated. I am also a nutritionist and I both inspect people's homes as well as help them recover from mold illness. Some things to consider are that mold doesn't always produce mycotoxins, and mold sampling of the home doesn't always show the reality of the situation. All home sampling has severe limitations. Air samples show a teeny tiny fraction of what's really going on. Direct samples only show a tiny area. So while sampling of the home may show a few different genera, it is often not the total picture. If you have one mold genera or species in your home from a water damage event, you likely have several. So while the home testing may show x mold, it doesn't mean that's all there is. Additionally, just b/c you found one source of mold, doesn't mean you don't have others. Often people become laser-focused on a particular area while they're completely oblivious to another area in the home that may be contaminated. In addition, depending on how long the water event has been happening, the mold in that area can change. For example, let's say you have a leak in the wall, and Aspergillus colonizes there. If the water continues for a week or more, Stachybotrys can take over and kill off the Aspergillus. Now there may be mycotoxins in the environment from one, or the other, or neither, or both. This obviously can make it very challenging to correlate what's going on in the home with what's going on in the body. The person may have different mycotoxins in their urine but it doesn't mean these did not come from the home based on what was found with the home testing. Also, I see dramatic fluctuations in the mycotoxin tests. It's very common for a very sick person to have a perfectly 'clean' mycotoxin test, yet after they're on a protocol for a few months, their mycotox skyrockets. The theory here is that the body is so compromised it's not actually letting go or detoxing the mold, and thus it doesn't show on the urine sample. Yet after a few months of detox support and binders, they start to let go, and the mycotox now detects the mold. I also see the genera change as the protocol progresses. Say only Ochratoxin shows up initially, but three months later Ochratoxin goes down but now MPA is high. For these reasons, the correlations aren't always obvious. I still find the mycotoxin tests to be quite useful, regardless if thy don't match the home testing. What I like to see is how the person progresses over time while on treatment, to determine what's working or not, how their urine sample correlates with their symptoms, and me for me personally, to stay on top of my continued daily exposure. They're far from perfect but can help guide treatment. Thanks so much for your incredible videos and insight, Chris. You're work is soooo important ;)
@chrismasterjohn
Жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense, but really adds to my skepticism of how valuable it is to do the mycotoxin testing.
@cathycooke
Жыл бұрын
@@chrismasterjohn if they were free I'd do them all day long. I do see value, but going off of symptoms can be just as good. Although for someone that you just can't figure out what the their problem is no matter what, and a mycotox comes back elevated, that can sometimes be very valuable.
@SleeplessinOC
2 ай бұрын
Hi can I ask you some questions please about my possible mold situation ? Just to get your opinion based on what you have encountered .
@cathycooke
2 ай бұрын
@@SleeplessinOC are you asking me or Chris?
@SleeplessinOC
2 ай бұрын
@@cathycooke hi , you , please !
@ThomasAT86
2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thanks! Some people really love to test stuff but I found that sometimes tests are totally useless and even misleading, especially without proper interpretation and translation into a plan, and symptoms may be enough to judge if there's a problem, progress and if a potential treatment protocol is working.
@chuckbecker8735
2 жыл бұрын
Useful information again.
@weiss27md
2 жыл бұрын
What were your symptoms?
@annajakubowski8192
2 жыл бұрын
They made you pay for testing for a life threatening condition
@NiyahList
Жыл бұрын
Yes most insurances don't cover mycotoxin testing. I'm in this situation now.
@clemensh6214
10 ай бұрын
@@NiyahList Did you try to live in another vacation for a few Weeks? A cheap solution would be living in a tent for some days
@ke7cat
2 жыл бұрын
I just ripped out 1000 sq feet of laminate flooring, trim and drywall from my significant others house due to a slab week going on for years.
@AsOfYetUnnamed
Жыл бұрын
A potential problem with going on vacation rather than testing is if the hotel is moldy.
@chrismasterjohn
Жыл бұрын
True, but simply not being in your house, if you are there all the time, and being outside more can make a big difference. I agree it isn’t perfectly unconfounded.
@clemensh6214
10 ай бұрын
You can try to live in a tent for a few Days
@ItsMikky
2 ай бұрын
This is all just so exhausting. I’m already so exhausted by possible mold exposure as it is..my husband doesn’t take any of this shit seriously.
@glen4326
2 ай бұрын
Your health comes first. I would do all you can to move - I had to move from my apartment 5 years ago. The problem is not everyone will have a reaction if it is indeed from living arrangement. If it is diet, you can eat non mold containing foods. Men are not typically as senstive as women and I know this because I have been watching and paying thousands on many alternative doctors and the majority are female. I am highly sensitive, and cannot stand what most men can tolerate.
@p.j.critchfield
4 ай бұрын
They may also be from previous areas lived in. The micotoxins are able to agitate your own that were just days off center, blue Mondays, etc... I have severe mold poisoning from sleeping in an area unknown to be a free urine bathroom on the rug under my bed. I am know destroyed with degerative spinal disease, a blood disease at 73 with DNA to live plus 90's , it's over. That stuff is real!
@glen4326
2 ай бұрын
Are you saying that diet can be the main cause of urinary mycotoxins. What do you recommend?
@monicawong3908
6 ай бұрын
Both my samples matched!
@bernardojunqueira2392
Жыл бұрын
Chris, what did you do to resolv your mold toxicity? Besides removing the mold from your house, of course.
@chrismasterjohn
Жыл бұрын
I removed myself from the moldy apartment.
@MiraSthira
Жыл бұрын
What about blood tests?
@chrismasterjohn
Жыл бұрын
I don’t have experience with them.
@holyfield2141
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they’re really inaccurate. Mycotoxins are so small and can bypass these tests. Of course do your own research to double check my knowledge
@susanjannarone135
2 ай бұрын
Stop saying mold mycotoxin urine tests don’t correlate with mycotoxin ecposures. If a landlord is not keeping the roof in good shape or working on the A/C and doctors tell lawyers to use urine I think you’re way off base. If you didn’t test your entire house and focused on one thing you don’t understand how mold progresses. That’s one problem. The other problem is you are not saying how many labs you used. You should state and show these tests. I’m a person who does not eat foods with high mycotoxins. For some of us what you’re saying would damage a victim’s legal case because you cannot prove what you eat.
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