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@vietnamd0820
Жыл бұрын
I eat a plant based diet and I also don’t wear the skins or feathers of animals…ending the exploitation of animals is an ethical goal, which will have a positive ripple effect of decreasing the risk of new pandemics, antibiotic resistance, and catastrophic climate change
@leviahimsa
Жыл бұрын
💯 Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, habitat destruction, water pollution, ocean dead zones and *species extinction* . -United Nations The most comprehensive *meta-analysis* conducted to date with 119 countries, shows avoiding animal products is the *"SINGLE BIGGEST WAY"* to reduce our environmental impact. -journal Science
@leviahimsa
Жыл бұрын
Do you offer this translated in Chinese and Spanish? 🙏
@someguy2135
Жыл бұрын
@@leviahimsa I agree. "According to the most comprehensive analysis of farming’s impact on the planet, plant-based food is most effective at combatting climate change. Oxford University researcher Joseph Poore, who led the study, said adopting a vegan diet is “the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth.” “A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use. It is far bigger than cutting down on your flights or buying an electric car,” he explained, which would only reduce greenhouse gas.“ Avoiding consumption of animal products delivers far better environmental benefits than trying to purchase sustainable meat and dairy,” he added.” -"The Independent" interview of Joseph Poore, Environmental Science Researcher, University of Oxford. Joseph Poore switched to a plant based diet after seeing the results of the study. Links at my channel under "About.
@LiveWire937
Жыл бұрын
I tried Nebula for a year. Really wanted to like it, but with no comments, no auto-play, no good recommendations, and so few creators, there's just no reason to stick around. My own home media server is more featureful. Nebula ads always go on and on about how great it is for the creators, but until something is done about the abysmal end user experience, I'm just not going to have a reason to use it, and as much as I'd like to help support good content creation, I can't afford to pay for a service I'm never going to use.
@evelyn785
Жыл бұрын
Just want to note that one of the reasons the meat and dairy industry remains so profitable despite its enormous inefficiency is due to taxpayer-funded incentives and subsidies. The state is constantly rescuing this industry from its failures and pushing it to overproduce.
@CordeliaWagner
Жыл бұрын
I am vegan and I get angry at the thought that my taxes are used to subsidize animal torture instead of making veggies, fruits and legumes cheaper.
@Moosemoose1
Жыл бұрын
The US economy is a capitalist economy and the government exists to keep that economy running, so it will ALWAYS subsidize and bail out the largest businesses, because those businesses are what keep the line up. If you don't like it, you need to fight to replace it with a different government and different economic system, no amount of regulations or voting can fix the rot.
@jg5755
Жыл бұрын
Farmers get absolutely no government subsidies in my country yet agriculture is our biggest export earner. There are shortages of all plant foods after 18 months of highly unusual wet weather that has seen flooding and horticultural livelihoods lost. Many people have lost their lives. There's no shortage of meat and milk though.
@geoffmerritt
Жыл бұрын
@@jg5755 seems there are no shortages in the plant food that the cows eat... so your comment "There are shortages of all plant foods after 18 months" isn't 100% correct.
@raraavis7782
Жыл бұрын
@@geoffmerritt Animal feed can be stored and import is also fairly straightforward, unless the people concerned are just flat out broke. So beef and dairy being available doesn't mean, there can't be shortages in fresh produce, fruit or even grain and corn. Especially the former ones require far more complicated logistics, to get them from one place to another without them spoiling. Animals also can be fed a lot of stuff, that's not suitable for human consumption. Pigs and chickens especially. So at least in the short run, these two issues can actually play out independently from each other on a global market.
@Zemmmmmmmm
Жыл бұрын
Veganism is a philosophy primarily opposed to the commodity status of animals, it is not simply a plant-exclusive diet.
@sebastianrieger
Жыл бұрын
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals." - The Vegan Society
@nessimrihani5962
Жыл бұрын
Its really hard to imagine animals decomodifed while humans are still a comodity.
@DemonXeron
Жыл бұрын
@@nessimrihani5962 Animal decommodification and human decommodification may well happen simultaneously. As soon as humans wake up to the idea we are treating sentient and sapient beings as resources rather than living breathing and thinking creatures, it should all fall into place naturally.
@henrybrown6480
Жыл бұрын
It seems like a kind of identity politics to me. A lot of talk and controversy that just distracts from the core issue (capitalism)
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
Many people who aren't vegan never realize this. It's disgraceful
@abelabel3664
Жыл бұрын
To climate change? It sure helps, but doesn't solve it. To minimize the suffering, exploitation, killing and commodification we unnecessarily impose on animals? Definitely.
@luvamiart8567
Жыл бұрын
It's one of the leading causes of climate change, so although it cannot solve it by its own, there is no solution to climate change without veganism.
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
We need MEER Reflection Project as well
@Cancellator5000
Жыл бұрын
No one thing is going to solve it, but I think it's under appreciated how much it will help with fighting climate change. It's not just about the emissions but also land use. The most effective way to unlock negative emissions is rewilding land and animal agriculture, particularly beef production, is the single most land hungry industry on the planet. At this point we need negative emissions in addition to electrifying everything to avoid catastrophe.
@someguy2135
Жыл бұрын
"The worldwide phase out of animal agriculture, combined with a global switch to a plant-based diet, would effectively halt the increase of atmospheric greenhouse gases for 30 years and give humanity more time to end its reliance on fossil fuels, according to a new study by scientists from Stanford University and the University of California, Berkeley."-Science Daily Title- "Replacing animal agriculture and shifting to a plant-based diet could drastically curb greenhouse gas emissions, according to new model Date: February 1, 2022 Source: Stanford University Summary: Phasing out animal agriculture represents 'our best and most immediate chance to reverse the trajectory of climate change,' according to a new model developed by scientists."
@someguy2135
Жыл бұрын
Ending animal agriculture as we know it isn't sufficient to solve climate change, but is required- "Clark et al. show that even if fossil fuel emissions were eliminated immediately, emissions from the global food system alone would make it impossible to limit warming to 1.5°C and difficult even to realize the 2°C target. Thus, major changes in how food is produced are needed if we want to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement."-as published in the journal "Science" Title, etc-"Global food system emissions could preclude achieving the 1.5° and 2°C climate change targets MICHAEL A. CLARK" et al
@dsur5547
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s also important to note the catastrophic environmental damage large scale fishing has as well. You mainly talk about beef and chicken in this video which is indeed what most people think of when they hear meat. But most people seem somehow even more ignorant about the horrors of the fishing industry. I recommend the documentary ‘seaspiracy’ for more info
@FreeRadicals9478
Жыл бұрын
It’s catastrophic. It’s even worse because sea grasses that are destroyed by trawling NEVER grow back.
@CordeliaWagner
Жыл бұрын
Seaspiracy is like a gory horror movie. Eating fish causes this gory horror. We need the oceans so badly and we have to stop destroying them.
@lidiastarkova2323
Жыл бұрын
I do agree. We need a video on the impact of fishing industry on this channel too! Seaspiracy is heartbreaking 💔 I’m so happy I don’t eat fish and don’t contribute to the terrorizing the oceans.
@blugaledoh2669
Жыл бұрын
Fish farming in the future.
@marcelom1686
Жыл бұрын
@@blugaledoh2669fish farming won't help, we simply need to stop and not contribute
@radiationshepherd
Жыл бұрын
Meat industry is also driving antibiotic resistance by pumping healthy animals with antibiotics
@buteocks4020
Жыл бұрын
Lol ai gen thumbnail
@carwyngriffiths
Жыл бұрын
US meat industry not world wide
@thatundeadlegacy2985
Жыл бұрын
America isn't the world.
@mrchefcheck
11 ай бұрын
Equally so is the widespread use of antibiotic hand soaps and people dumping their antibiotics down the drain.
@endcaps1917
7 ай бұрын
@thatundeadlegacy2985 still not very good
@lukec6721
Жыл бұрын
I thought you'd mention the role that government subsidies of animal agriculture plays into this issue. For the reasons you mentioned, it's important for vegans and everyone else who does not agree with animal abuse to be politically involved. Citizen-led initiatives and activism can enact systemic change in a way that individual boycotts do not.
@markusuttoob
Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. The documentary called “Eating our way to Extinction” goes into some aspects of government involvement.
@donnavorce8856
Жыл бұрын
When the corporate world feels the down vote (i.e. people putting their market dollars into sustainable humane products) they'll change in a hurry. Don't wait for congress to take action. Ain't never gonna happen until YOU and me put our money elsewhere.
@plantstho6599
Жыл бұрын
I can't watch this guys vids anymore. He's not bringing up more important questions.
@michaeld4861
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the amount of money the government has given toward dairy is insane even though dairy consumption continues to decline. The government has entire campaigns and departments within the USDA to try to increase the amount of meat and dairy consumed such as the Beef Checkoff Program or the National Dairy Council funded through the Dairy Checkoff. We've got a whole cave system full of billions of pounds of cheese cause we don't eat it all and instead of simply acknowledging consumer demand isn't there the government (bought by corporations) continues to give more money to these monopolies simply to shove the products into a cave. Literally the thing that capitalists critiqued the Soviet Union for. And these programs mandate than school lunches have as much dairy as possible too. It's thoroughly corrupt and insane. The Farm Bill must be reformed to help farmers produce things we actually eat and make an actual living doing it instead of being a giant giveaway to monopolies that continue to pay farmers less!
@lukec6721
Жыл бұрын
@@donnavorce8856 yeah it's definitely important to make the individual change and go vegan. Vegans are the only people who claim to be against animal abuse that are not hypocrites.
@markus19999
Жыл бұрын
Went vegan last year for the climate, animals, and personal health. I feel so good!
@someguy2135
Жыл бұрын
Kudos! Just as important as going vegan is staying vegan. To be sure you are doing it sustainably, I suggest reading the expert advice from the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine at "21 day kickstart." I also suggest using the free web site and app "Meetup" to find other vegans for socializing with. Here on KZitem a good resource for cooking is the "Cheap Lazy Vegan" channel. There are many more good ones. Ethnic cuisines gives you lots of variety for a plant based diet. I now eat a lot of foods with that savory umami flavor I used to get from animal products. I eat a lot of mushrooms, miso paste, nutritional yeast, nori seaweed, and pasta sauce for that umami flavor. I use black salt on plain cubes of tofu heated in the microwave for a flavor identical to eggs. Nutritional yeast makes it even better. Those starting out often aren't used to a lot of fiber and beans, so they should increase them gradually, and drink plenty of extra water as you do. When it comes to whole plant foods, eat extra food to compensate for the lower calorie density of whole plant foods.
@kurtmissotten5965
Жыл бұрын
❤ well done. You will miss out on a lot off chronic and lethal diseases! I just want to add to this that going vegan is not enough for health. I mean a vegan junk food lifestyle is going to help you marginally. Try to eat as close to nature, no manufactured poison. Look into whole food plant based.
@trentonharris7676
Жыл бұрын
@@kurtmissotten5965 Vegans develop and die from chronic diseases as well.
@FreeRadicals9478
Жыл бұрын
@@trentonharris7676at far, FAR lower rates, as all REAL science not funded by the livestock industry has proven indisputably.
@trentonharris7676
Жыл бұрын
@@FreeRadicals9478 There is no "real science" in the field of human nutrition regarding cause and effect relationships between diet and long-term human health outcomes. It is all uncontrolled, poorly designed, pseudoscientific, associative nonsense.
@dstarley
Жыл бұрын
As a recent vegan for environmental and ethical reasons, I was nervous to watch this. However, I found myself agreeing with everything in the video. This is an excellent summary of the environmental case for change and the systems changes that are required.
@wyliehj
Жыл бұрын
No need to be vegan, support pasture raised & local instead. Pasture raised eggs esp[ecially are wonderful with hardly any envrionmental cost.
@soapparentlyyoucanchangeyo1449
Жыл бұрын
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@wyliehj
Жыл бұрын
@@soapparentlyyoucanchangeyo1449 actually not bs and makes a lot of sense
@soapparentlyyoucanchangeyo1449
Жыл бұрын
@@wyliehj 1. Being vegan will always do more for the environment than eating even the "cleanest" of animal products, so no, there is need 2. Local is a scam most of the time, in the very least with what the animals are fed, sure the farm may be local but the feed - depending on which animals - probably isn't, + the emissions caused by the animals, and the ethical implications of using animals for food
@wyliehj
Жыл бұрын
@@soapparentlyyoucanchangeyo1449 Thats not true. The cleanest animal products would be keeping your own chickens on pasture and sustainable hunting and fishing remte areas. Those are obviously both insanely better for the environment than buying produce at the gropcery store.
@medusianAllure
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to bring up the medieval diet. Unless you were royalty, your diet consisted of a lot of vegetables and fruit, whole grains, nuts and legumes, eggs, milk, fish, and meat on special occasions and when one has good fortune to have a surplus.
@CordeliaWagner
Жыл бұрын
I prefer a modern well planned plant based diet.
@imrustyokay
Жыл бұрын
i'd rather have a diet that didn't come from an era where raw sewage flowed openly in the streets.
@Jan96106
Жыл бұрын
The University of Bristol analyzed the pots and pottery and found that stews (or pottages) of meat (beef and mutton) and vegetables such as cabbage and leek, were the mainstay of the medieval peasant diet. The research also showed that dairy products, likely the ‘green cheeses’ known to be eaten by the peasantry, also played an important role in their diet.
@Alex_Barbosa
Жыл бұрын
I hate the word legumes. Nobody knows what that word means lol
@ІлляВетров-й2д
Жыл бұрын
@@Jan96106 in one of England’s early medieval villages...
@Shane-zl9ry
Жыл бұрын
3 years vegan ✌🏼😎🌱
@holnrew
Жыл бұрын
Gonna be 3 years for me in September
@DemonXeron
Жыл бұрын
1 year for me. Took me 6 years or so to transition. Feel so guilty, but I'm still young. Could be worse eh? I'll keep improving.
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm going on 7 I think
@xraselver7634
Жыл бұрын
@@MattAngiono Haha yeah I also can't remember exactly xD Probably about 6 years for me :)
@vaurien3694
Жыл бұрын
awesome, same
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
I don't think any vegan actually thinks that it is THE ONLY SOLUTION to address climate... It's just the biggest one an individual can affect EVERY DAY. You can't opt out of capitalism except by buying less stuff, which many vegans also participate in... There's also the mental benefits that come from knowing your food isn't coming from an ongoing holocaust and so much suffering. This changes one's whole disposition towards everything, and makes you a more peaceful person in general. It lines up very nicely with Taoist philosophy, which is in my opinion the best way to a happy mental life, as well as physical. Cheers! Great video in general.... please post the info about grass-fed for the rest of us at some point
@xraselver7634
Жыл бұрын
I think he already made that video on grass-fed cows, that's why he showed it here, right?
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
@@xraselver7634 he made it for Nebula subs
@ThisIsYou36
8 ай бұрын
Holocaust? You're comparing a genocide to eating animals
@sweeetjuicetv
Жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up on the MS Gulf Coast I want to mention that the beach there is disgusting and has been for as long as I can recall. Most of the time I lived there we were warned against swimming because of the dangerous bacteria in the water and even when there weren’t active warnings, the water was almost always brown and murky :(
@pepper419
Жыл бұрын
Then you should have warned againsed the chemicals that are used to grow vegetables. That's what's killing the world, Not natural food.
@zachduperron8543
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I visited the beach in Texas, near the city of Houston. It was so murky, gross and angry looking.
@Sebloe
Жыл бұрын
So veganism is the answer. Going vegan isn’t a small step but going plant based is a small step. Fighting the giant meat lobbying corporations, helping farmers transition towards plant ag and changing food production to favour plant based production IS veganism.
@MarlaSingersCancer
Жыл бұрын
This video is leftism and anti capitalism at its core: explains why the capitalists want us to eat more meat, and why it's bad, but then claims you shouldn't bother because you need to wait for capitalists to stop selling you meat.
@Real_Eggman
Жыл бұрын
I think we should support the lab grown meat industry. It's a more realistic solution, without any negatives
@max-cs9ko
Жыл бұрын
Go and read about Zhanna D’art, body need certain amino acid which is not available without animal products or high cost supplements, people like you are fooling young kids and destroying their life
@SnokenX
Жыл бұрын
Not really. Most vegans want to abolish meat production all together.
@AlarmedGabriel
Жыл бұрын
@@SnokenXI do not see why a vegan should have a problem with lab grown meat if no animal is involved in the process.
@DarkDeepGreen
Жыл бұрын
Eating meat, dairy and eggs is exploitation.
@kayc7442
Жыл бұрын
Tasty delicious succulent exploitation 😁
@SharienGaming
Жыл бұрын
so is eating anything else - eating meat is just extremely inefficient and destructive exploitation due to factory farming PS: the destructive part is due to factory farming - meat is inefficient by default, since there is a massive energy loss in the process of growing especially large animals
@kayc7442
Жыл бұрын
@@SharienGaming How can you say growing animals are inefficient when they have been growing just fine for millions of years? And you seem to misunderstand that there is no factory farming of animals because they are not raised in factories. Those pictures are feedlots that occurs at the end of life.
@SharienGaming
Жыл бұрын
@@kayc7442 because inefficiency at scale has a much bigger impact than in smaller numbers? to get 2 units of energy from meat, you need to put in 100 units of energy from plants... thats a 2% conversion rate... thats how inefficient it is there are a load of things that have been fine for millions of years, but are becoming problematic when you suddenly scale it up massively... like burning coal to fuel heaters and forges in a bunch of villages and small cities might be fine... but when you start burning a thousand times as much to fuel an ever growing industry the effect becomes much much more dire or for example when a few fishers fish every day from a lake the fish population easily recovers... when a dozen trawlers run through the lake every day the fish population may get completely wiped out
@max-cs9ko
Жыл бұрын
Go and read about Zhanna D’art, body need certain amino acid which is not available without animal products or high cost supplements, people like you are fooling young kids and destroying their life
@JP-sm4cs
Жыл бұрын
Slaughter house conditions are so bad that you develop sociopathy. I read a research article showing that the violent crime rate of a neighborhood increases significantly when slaughterhouse workers start working there.
@ChrisComstock612
Жыл бұрын
I went vegan years ago because i believe its the best thing i can do for my planet and the animals who live here🌱💚🌱💚🌱💚
@iCyWEdontCi2i
Жыл бұрын
Good luck with that produce that other countries dont want...
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
@dalep926 no one truly thinks we can continue the path we're on without collapsing entirely
@iCyWEdontCi2i
Жыл бұрын
@@MattAngiono, yes, and nucIear has put the world on a path downward ever since it was invented. No need to worry about "a country's b omb"... Its the WASTE of making those b ombs that we needed to worry about. We are already through the guardrail... Jus waitin for the bottom
@ChrisComstock612
Жыл бұрын
@@iCyWEdontCi2i hi friend, im one lucky guy to live in the part of the country that is known for producing the best organic veggies around. I hope you eat well also 💚🌱
@SamWessel
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video but I think it would be helpful to differentiate between a plant-based diet and veganism, which is a rights-based philosophy in opposition to the exploitation of human and non-human animals. Keep up the great work.
@CordeliaWagner
Жыл бұрын
The average person thinks plant based when they hear vegan. Like they think of hazelnut nougat paste when the hear Nutella.
@DSS712
Жыл бұрын
I also think it would have been helpful to give more consideration to the act of decreasing of animal product consumption rather than the elimination of it, as he kind of just brushed over that idea very quickly with a celebrity quote and then went through the rest of the video treating plant based diets as this all-or-nothing drastic solution. I eat animal products a few times a month as a treat and it is absolutely doable. The problem isn't eating animal based products, the problem is that the animal based product industry has caused us to believe that we are entitled to unlimited and affordable access to animal products 3 meals a day plus snacks.
@max-cs9ko
Жыл бұрын
Go and read about Zhanna D’art, body need certain amino acid which is not available without animal products or high cost supplements, people like you are fooling young kids and destroying their life
@justroberto5052
Жыл бұрын
sentient beings arent treats for you though@@DSS712
@xXNekou
Жыл бұрын
How can anyone watch an undercover video from a slaughterhouse and then go "yeah, that's fine, I support that, I will keep giving them money"?
@whatever990
Жыл бұрын
Usually the argument is that they are isolated incidents, and that they are cherry picked to make it seem more severe than it is. Sadly, they're not isolated incidents. Seeing how humans have treated other humans throughout history, especially when those other humans had no rights at the time, should make that pretty obvious.
@Jay-ho9io
Жыл бұрын
"Steak tastes good." Never underestimate the corruptive power of the intersection of helplessness in the face of a overwhelming problem, intersected by desire in the face of a wanted thing. You do it. I do it. It is a fundamental component of the system that we are a part of. I do not wave it away, but I do understand it.
@LeckieInstallsLondon
Жыл бұрын
As an 8 year vegan with many hours doing activism, some people straight up dont care what happens to the animals and it becomes mental gymnastics to try to understand their perspectives. Thankfully, not many people have this extreme lack of empathy for the animals.
@justinboyd8383
Жыл бұрын
Stop eating animals. Do the bare minimum for the climate and the animals needlessly suffering.
@leviahimsa
Жыл бұрын
Vegan for the victims, plant based for the environment, whole food plant based for health. ✌️🍉
@lorah3005
Жыл бұрын
Well put! 👍 🖖
@FreeRadicals9478
Жыл бұрын
Boom. And what person with self-respect wouldn’t want to strive for all three?
@magesalmanac6424
Жыл бұрын
For real. I’m shifting into a vegetarian diet for the past few months and already feel healthier. The meat industry is just so foul.
@Ermude10
Жыл бұрын
This!
@max-cs9ko
Жыл бұрын
Go and read about Zhanna D’art, body need certain amino acid which is not available without animal products or high cost supplements, people like you are fooling young kids and destroying their life
@Ermude10
Жыл бұрын
I think an important note about the contributions of GHG from the animal agriculture industry cited in this video is that it's the _minimum_ estimate. This means that the researchers have been cutting out as many uncertain factors as possible to arrive at a number that they can claim with very high certainty. The actual number is very likely to be higher, but if it's 17% or 20% is gonna require a lot of "it depends" arguments.
@LeckieInstallsLondon
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The world watch institute states that "at least 51%" of all anthropogenic greenhouse gases comes from animal ag
@amp9672
Жыл бұрын
going vegan was the best decision I ever did in my life. Became vegetarian for the planet and the animals, but vegan changed my health and my happiness in a way I never thought I could feel that good, and I sat those words carefully
@discursion
Жыл бұрын
I'm so torn between disliking this video for its obvious useless rant about veganism being "just a small step", "just a diet" and "consumerist" (all of which it absolutely isn't) and liking it because heck, all of these other considerations are still important.
@FunkeyPhysicsMonkey
Жыл бұрын
Same. I think there are a lot of valuable things in the video, including the worry about focusing efforts on the imperial core and looking for more systemic solutions over individual ones, but for a channel that constantly speaks out against domination and injustice, I feel like they fell short on representing veganism and the benefits of a society reducing its animal consumption on the climate and environment.
@discursion
Жыл бұрын
@@FunkeyPhysicsMonkey Yes, the most important thing being that vegans are preoccupied with animal suffering… people often forget that humans qualify as animals too. Ultimately it’s also about ending human exploitation!
@afeudale
Жыл бұрын
Good information, but erroneous conclusions. This is a classic appeal to futility argument. You lay out all the reasons that eating a plant based/vegan diet is exponentially better for the planet than animal products, but then go on to say that people shouldn't go vegan because we need a top down approach targeting the large corporations?? I sense some author bias here... People switching to plant based vegan diets is the *only* way the animal agriculture industry will collapse.
@SantoshKumar-xk9vp
Жыл бұрын
Yes , the need of the hour
@kseniav586
Жыл бұрын
I wanted to casually watch this but had to grab a pen and start making notes! Love how informative your videos are. Thank you for all the good work that you do.
@magesalmanac6424
Жыл бұрын
He always does so much research for these videos, I have to watch at home with no distractions lol
@onlycorner5565
Жыл бұрын
how about this for facts children have both stunted growth and a rising obesity yet African nations still lag behind on achieving this, losing between 1.9% and 16% of the gross domestic product annually to under-nutrition due to increased mortality, absenteeism, chronic illnesses, and lost productivity. Even with expanding economies, increased food production and mounting food waste, for many Africans, that hasn’t translated into the provision of healthy nutrients and food necessary for growth. flower products dont promote healthy brains . sugar isnt an energy source
@achenarmyst2156
Жыл бұрын
We reduced our meat consumption by 95% years ago. On rare occasions we eat some regional meat from organic farms or from regional game. Our motif is primarily ecological, secondarily concerning animal ethics.
@erik_havoc
Жыл бұрын
I don't care if animals are destroying envoirnment or not (which they do btw). It is just not ethical or moral to slaughter living beings for no reason.
@Noctem_pasa
Жыл бұрын
I mean… there is a reason. To eat them.
@erik_havoc
Жыл бұрын
@@Noctem_pasa But you DON'T have to eat them. If you are poor I would agree more with you (Even though Vegetables and plants generally and fruits are cheaper than meat) But I guess you are a working class person with low mid income or mid income. Even if you are low income I would say that vegan diet would be cheaper for you
@Noctem_pasa
Жыл бұрын
@@erik_havoc eating a holistic, healthy diet without eating chemical garbage isn’t exactly affordable, it’s a sliding spectrum of nutritious, affordable, and not destroyed by chemicals which makes this problem less simplistic than you imply. Humans do in fact eat meat for a reason, and meat is still the most effective way of getting specific nutrients such as vitamin b12, creatine, and d3. That’s to say nothing of modern meat production and the widespread overconsumption of meat disproportionately in the global north, which is anything but natural and has no place in society. But the killing of animals for utility is something that long predates us, both in society and in nature, and to reduce that to “killing for no reason” is reductive imo
@erik_havoc
Жыл бұрын
@@Noctem_pasa All u said about nutritions is not true. You know what is the most effective way to get B12 or D3? Supplements! It basically takes 10 seconds to take those if you of course have money. And before you will say that it is chemistry and not food like meat, cows and other livestock animals are heavily suplemented with antibiotics. You don't have to buy meat replecments like beyond meat or impossible meat or stuff like that which are expensive. Generally vegetables, fruits and stuff that are basics ARE CHEAP. Meat isn't the most nutrient dense food even tofu has more nutrients in 100 grams than beef or chicken and tofu is cheaper. Idk where u live but if you live outside of USA in europe or country with easily affordable vegetablesand supplements you have bright af green light to being vegan.
@Noctem_pasa
Жыл бұрын
@@erik_havoc where do you think those supplements come from when not imbued via chemistry? It’s either from chemistry or derived from animal byproducts. And besides, not all meat is riddled with antibiotics, it’s not inherent to meat diets. I’m not saying plants aren’t nutritious, I’m saying meat or meat byproduct supplements are important to a balance of specific nutrients, and to get those nutrients from a plant based diet isn’t viable for many
@KickKnete
Жыл бұрын
You can't make a video about an ethical movement and never talk about ethics and morals?!
@amelie3012
Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched fully yet, but you posted 7mins after the video was released and the video is 26mins long. I doubt you watched the whole thing before posting. Otherwise yes I agree veganisim is before all an ethical movement with a good impact on the environment as a positive side effect
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
I still subscribe just so I can point out the same thing on the comments. Never really get many responses though from the creator. Keep at it
@FunkeyPhysicsMonkey
Жыл бұрын
@@amelie3012This video was posted a month ago up one Nebula. Part of the money that goes into the subscription helps the content creators. I saw the video a month ago and the person's post you are replying to is correct.
@ryn2844
Жыл бұрын
Veganism isn't the solution, but there is no solution that doesn't include veganism.
@jamesbyrne3033
Жыл бұрын
Oh that’s a nice way of putting it.
@MadDeuceJuice
7 ай бұрын
I’m gonna steal that
@MeshaSagram
Жыл бұрын
I loved this video! I just want to add that from what I've seen, consumers have a massive impact on industry. I understand that we shouldn't put all responsibility on consumers, but things won't change until people change and demand what they want. For example, with most people cutting down on dairy, dairy-free alternatives have become very popular in coffee shops, there are so many plant milk options available at grocery stores and dairy farms have had to shut down in Canada. We can't expect everyone to go 100% vegan, but these small changes are making a real difference!
@connor4582
Жыл бұрын
100% agree. The decline of the dairy industry in the past few decades is a Pearce too example of consumer changes making differences. I think this can be done with meat as well
@CordeliaWagner
Жыл бұрын
Politicians could make laws to change the industry. But they don't and we can't count on them most of the time. It's up to the individual and communities at this point.
@maryleeleemary8566
Жыл бұрын
Consumers have almost no impact on animal agriculture. "Supply and demand" is a fantasy in a system that is built to be fail-proof via goverment bailouts, subsidies, insurance, propaganda... Even with more people making vegan choices, meat and cheese production is still record high.
@mobius6178
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! It’s challenging to sit at the same table with people who have different levels of acceptable suffering in the world. But the only way we can build tomorrow is together. 💪
@sebastianrieger
Жыл бұрын
20:48 Veganism is not a restrictive diet. You just stop taking what didn't belong to you anyway: the body parts of animals. Why should we have the right to eat these body parts if it is unnecessary?
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
I like it.... Doesn't feel restrictive to me, expect when I'm hanging out with animal abusers on occasion
@VictoriousGardenosaurus
Жыл бұрын
The strong survive. Humans are the apex predator on Earth. That's where the right comes from.
@Kadaspala
Жыл бұрын
That and it's only "restrictive" in the context of a society with grocery stores filled to the brim with non-vegan products while having only a couple (if any) vegan options. Much like how being a wheelchair user in a city is only restrictive if that city fails to implement wheelchair accessible infrastructure. Which is to say its perceived restrictiveness is so only because of current social norms and systems -- which can be changed.
@batatanna
Жыл бұрын
The same answer as to why should we use the land available on Earth, or the minerals embedded on its crust, or the plants growing on its soil. Eating meat has been a part of human societies for ages and is ingrained in our cultures and ways of living. Rights are born from our reality as humans, all rights are human rights, if you want to argue for the protection (not rights cause animals do not have rights) of animals under a law, you're arguing for the restriction of many cultures and ways of living of many societies.
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
@batatanna there ARE already animal abuse laws. You can go to jail for abusing SOME animals. The goal is to extend that sphere. Culture is no excuse, just like it isn't with female genital mutilation (and should also be for males). Culture CHANGES over time. We can have a culture built around respecting conscious animals right to not be abused unnecessarily
@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999
Жыл бұрын
Consumer solutions won't change the bulk of the problems which are all coming from large corporations. Until large corporations can no longer own and control our governments nothing will change. It is a myth that all these consumer choices can add up enough to make a difference. it's going to take a difference in government and laws so let's focus our attention there. It's great to make better choices for ourselves in our own lives but let's not fool ourselves like that's changing the corporation's behavior. That's like pissing in the ocean to warm it up.
@AndiAOE3
Жыл бұрын
People always forget that almost anyone lives in a community and your choices affect how other people react. Me going vegan affected at least 2 people going vegan, 2 more going vegetarian & a lot of people reconsidering their animal product consumption. And if these people also affect other people you have a snowball effect
@TheLikerofPie
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for using your platform to talk about such an important way of reducing animal suffering, worker exploitation, and our environemtnal impact. Such an amazing channel! Will definitely be recommending it and showing other people your videos.
@arallskiant9923
Жыл бұрын
there is no better alternative than veganism. but yes one can ADD other habits (vote etc). though you should have frame things more structurally by naming the non-vegan stance: carnism. explaining its structure etc. veganism makes things cheaper, healthier, less imperialist, less dominions/exploitation, more logical, more ecological (one health model etc), less finacially risky (price of food/energy tied to carnism etc). Many of the worse thing for our species are tied with carnism it predate capitalism (pandemics, deforestation etc).
@PG-3462
Жыл бұрын
While in our current society that overconsumes meat being vegan is indeed very good because it helps society as a whole to consume less meat, everyone becoming vegan is NOT the optimal way of doing agriculture. In reality, integrating animal and vegetal farming like it was done in the past is the optimal and most sustainable way of doing agriculture. All industrial monocultures are extremely damaging for the environment, so the fact of switching from the overproduction of meat to the overproduction of other types of food like avocadoes and nuts that then need to be shipped away on thousands of kilometers in huge cargo ships is definitively not any good for the environment. For the billions of people who live in cold, semi-arid or mountainous regions, meat will also always remain part of the best way of producing food in their respective region.
@discursion
Жыл бұрын
Nah, the guy needed a "but veganism isn't perfect" argument to comfort his carnist audience and promote the status quo. I highly suspect he is non-vegan himself.
@PG-3462
Жыл бұрын
@@discursion Or maybe he isn't an extremist and thus understands that the world we live in is more complex than you think.
@SharienGaming
Жыл бұрын
@@discursion congratulations - you are making progress on your quest of turning people who generally aligned with your goal into your declared enemies... rather than utilizing commonalities to push for a common goal, like ending factory farming... you declared them your enemies instead... im sure this is how you get enough support to actually reach the goal... purity checks are always a healthy attitude...
@wyliehj
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Eating ethically & regeneratively pasture raised meat and eggs is fine.
@Jay-qu7rf
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. Veganism is indeed a massive part of fixing the climate crisis. As an Indian born in Africa, I must say it's extremely easy to be a Vegan. As Indians we have practiced Vegetarianism for 3000 years as a core part of Hinduism; and in Africa our diets were predominately plant based because meat is very expensive. Hopefully more people will get the memo and we can avert the floods, forest fires, etc that we're witnessing as a result of the climate crisis.
@samlisson
Жыл бұрын
in western countries governments are propping up the meat industry with subsidies so that it continues and people can afford it. I wish people couldn't afford meat here
@max-cs9ko
Жыл бұрын
Go and read about Zhanna D’art, body need certain amino acid which is not available without animal products or high cost supplements, people like you are fooling young kids and destroying their life
@ErutaniaRose
Жыл бұрын
As someone who loves Indian and African food (at least all the ones I’ve tried from various regions and countries) I would not find it hard mentally or taste-wise to be vegan or vegetarian. My issue is medically I can’t not have meat due to the insane protein I need, lol. Yaaay chronic illness. 😂 But ya, if medically I could, Indian and African food cultures would make it so easy.
@CommanderKappa
Жыл бұрын
Veganism is at first an ethical position. One that barely has any legitimate counter arguements.
@vietnamd0820
Жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard a successful counter argument yet
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
@@vietnamd0820my taste buds tho.... Lol
@CommanderKappa
Жыл бұрын
@@vietnamd0820 There are some, but they are mostly ones that are only valid for certain individuals and not for society as a whole. Some people, indeed, have genes that don't allow the conversion of nutrients found in plants to vital micronutrients that can't be found in plants at all and are not easy/accessible to supplement. Also some people have severe allergies, which make a plant based diet literally impossible as long as there are no necessary supplements or medications. But one might argue, if they try to eat as plant based as possible, that they are stil 'vegan' by definition. Also for certain places on earth its not yet realiziable and we can't deny that our production chains can't be transformed from one day to another.
@hiiamelecktro4985
Жыл бұрын
Well, yes. But this a video about if veganism is the solution to climate change. Not a video about veganism itself.
@sebastianrieger
Жыл бұрын
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
@MultiCappie
Жыл бұрын
I get that neither the World nor the Earth care about my pantry, but I still need to sleep at night -- thus I'm still vegan. (And carless, and buy 100% green power etc.)
@kahlilhh1740
Жыл бұрын
So does meat production under communism not cause problems? And why would corporations who control production, produce the same amounts if there was no consumer demand?
@jordanthompson8268
Жыл бұрын
There usually isn't much food production under communism at all.
@adhiantos
Жыл бұрын
"We are alienated from the very things we put in our mouth. As a result it's hard to care about the impact of a feedlot on the environment or the workers within a slaughterhouse when you're halfway across the world eating something that looks nothing like an animal". Very well said. As a vegetarian I find it puzzling when people are surprised and have to constantly justify the killing of animals for food when I tell them I don't eat meat. I don't think it's difficult to think and feel of the pain that these animals have to go through. But people seem to be so alienated and so cut off from this fact, perhaps because they're too used and accustomed to eating meat.
@skylermikalson6159
Жыл бұрын
Do you realize that dairy cows and egg laying hens are slaughtered (at fractions of their natural lifespans) for their meat too, as well as all of the males that are bred into existence that serve no purpose to both those industries? These are necessary components of these industries in order for them to be economically viable. I encourage you to watch a video of what happens to baby male chicks.
@adhiantos
Жыл бұрын
@@skylermikalson6159 I'm aware of that. I don't consume dairy either. But I still consume eggs for personal reasons which yes in the eyes of veganism, it's always wrong. But for now I only consume eggs when I have to. But if there's a choice I'll always avoid eggs.
@Alex_Barbosa
Жыл бұрын
It could be a matter of blindness to the suffering. But I don't think it is. People already know about how dirty, and brutal the meat industry is on the animals. They just don't care because they aren't convinced animals can comprehend suffering. It's not hard for people to fall into justification when they feel there's nothing wrong going on. Vegans are going to have to move their arguments away from talks of exploitation and into validating animals as sapient creatures to other people, because that's the real bottleneck.
@stevencats7137
Жыл бұрын
Read “animal liberation now” - an updated version of Peter Singer’s 1970s classic that kickstarted the animal rights movement. I stumbled on it at the bookstore last weekend and it’s great so far! My favorite term is “conditioned ethical blindness”
@Ganjor420
Жыл бұрын
feels like you mixed up plant based diet and veganism sometimes... but its going in the right direction so I guess it still helps
@sedwards6761
Жыл бұрын
One scene that has always stuck with me but I never see it mentioned anywhere, is in What The Health. It’s the part where all the people living around the pig farm that are getting sick. Meat eaters act like they don’t care about the animals, but do they also not care about their fellow humans?
@izzzzzz6
Жыл бұрын
People will constantly argue solutions but often only care about themselves and their groups or they forget to look at long term effects and solutions. What i try to show is that we need to constantly adapt to our current situations on the planet, i think most of us are aware. My comments below go into more detail but i thought i would add this as it's a good argument against those who fight these concepts. Other arguments are won below in my other comments but in general people do not like change or being told to change.
@MattAngiono
Жыл бұрын
There is no solution.... There's a lot we can try though. Every solution ever has led to newer bigger problems. That's the story of technology. No reason not to try though! My favorite aside from veganism is MEER Reflection Project
@harveytheparaglidingchaser7039
Жыл бұрын
"for every 100kcal we receive 2kcal from beef" I didn't know that , shocking.
@sskpsp
Жыл бұрын
Veganism isn't just consumer dietary spending habits. It can range all the way to something like radical direct action against factory farms. Just like climate activism includes destruction of gas pipelines. This video was mostly a semantic debate.
@vylbird8014
Жыл бұрын
You can try. It's hard to find willing martyrs ready to face years of imprisonment for the cause.
@sskpsp
Жыл бұрын
@@vylbird8014 again, I'm just pointing out that it is semantics being debated here, not veganism itself
@kennyholmes5196
Жыл бұрын
Before the video starts, I am going to make a prediction about the answer to the title question: No, it is not. Carbon sequestration infeasability, chemical fertilizers, pesticides, and habitat destruction being the biggest reasons why. [EDIT]: OK, so I was partly correct. I was right, but only on about half of my points. It is indeed not the only solution, but only because it's not the only solution. It is still a solution, but it needs to be enacted alongside other solutions.
@spencerharmon4669
Жыл бұрын
You should also check out veganic gardening and permaculture. Monocropping isn't the only way to be vegan.
@drklawz9179
Жыл бұрын
We should also note that veganism and forms of vegetarianism have been practiced in certain cultures (buddhist, jain, hindu etc) for centuries if not millennia. So it is not necessarily something imperial or exclusive. Veganism itself can hold all those cultural value to some people. The west neither discovered nor has a monopoly on veganism.
@roycarter2797
Жыл бұрын
As an actual vegan I can say that you got a lot wrong when it comes to what veganism actually is. But you got sooooo much right about the environment and how destructive our current global food systems are. Everything about animal agriculture is ineffective. And even regenerative farming is not a solution when looking at demand. Which should be something you totally understand. You don’t need to be a vegan to stop exploiting animals for food. You just need to stop buying animal products to eat. Demand drives supply. And on a final note. You can still have thanksgiving and Christmas and many other culturally relevant events while following a plant only diet. (And there aren’t vegan levels of good or bad. Either you are a vegan or you are not.)
@LeckieInstallsLondon
Жыл бұрын
As another vegan for the animals, I whole heartedly agree
@DarkFaken
Жыл бұрын
One of the big downsides of climate change is that with more extreme weather conditions, it's an excellent chance for corporations and governments to say, "oh, the poor farmers, we must support them and their industry!". This generally seems to lead to government funding and charity to keep farms producing meat or other crops to produce meat
@jukaa1012
Жыл бұрын
the future is vegan
@Real_Eggman
Жыл бұрын
No, if we're talking about meat. Lab grown meat IS the future, and it's here, but not widespread.
@max-cs9ko
Жыл бұрын
Go and read about Zhanna D’art, body need certain amino acid which is not available without animal products or high cost supplements made chemically, people like you are fooling young kids and destroying their life
@tteqhu
Жыл бұрын
@@Real_Eggman Labs processing/equipment needed are and will be too expensive. Meat grown this way doesn't have structure, so your meal choices will be limited.
@PercivalBlakeney
Жыл бұрын
@jukaa1012 The future is Vegan… because without Veganism… there is no future. ❤
@whatever990
Жыл бұрын
@@Real_Eggman Lab grown meat is vegan.
@bachnguyen3469
Жыл бұрын
There are still some arguments to that can be made about the environmental issues of the meat industry: -You mentioned that 77% of argicutural land are used for the meat industry but the majority of it are marginal lands. These land made up about 2/3 of all agricultural land -You mentioned how 100 KC are feed to cows, we only get 2KC out. But the majority of the 100KC we feed cows are actually human in-edible because they are things like corn husk, stalks, dried grass, pasture grasses, almonds hulls, etc. So what is actually happening is cows are upscaling the things we can't eat to highly nutritional meats. - I disagree with the methane argument since that methane are a part of a natural cycle. In which the methane break down to CO2 in the atmostphere and naturally follow the carbon cycle. Also, the global mean of 14% green-house gases, are not considering the regional specific. In the US, it is only 4% of the total US emissions. I'm not saying that the US is very ineffecient or anything. But with that number of 4%, realistically only 10% of Amercia would go vegan. That meant a 0.4% decrease in the US total emissions which is a very minor change. On the other hand, something like use of fossil fuels or transportation haves solutions like nuclear reactors, public transport, bikes, etc. They would make a much more impactful change. So, I don't think attacking the meat industry for climate changes is not the right reason way to do it. Otherwise, your arguement about capitalism in corelation to the meat industry environmentals and ethical issues are one of the best arguments out there. Here is my source: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1H19k3VuaYadaJw&ab_channel=WhatI%27veLearned
@ashleyd535
Жыл бұрын
Also just want to add that it's not possible for everyone to switch to plant based. As someone with a medical issue that makes it very hard for me to absorb the stuff I need from food and deal with intense pain from eating, sometimes the only "safe", easily digestible, and readily available food is chicken. So when it's phrased that veganism is the only solution, or people are shamed for not going plant based, it's not always because they don't care.
@YunikMaharjan
Жыл бұрын
does 16.5% global gas emission from animal agriculture also account for the feedlot?
@LeckieInstallsLondon
Жыл бұрын
This figure omits land change use, and methane gwp as the 2 big ones. For a more comprehensive look into emissions, see the world watch institute's report where their figure is "at least 51%". There is a lot of industry influence in the epa's reporting of emissions.
@andrewdl6824
Жыл бұрын
Every climate change denier watching this will argue the solution is pasture-raised farms and they aren't likely to go watch the video on another platform. I will and I hope it mentions that most of the cow pastures today are on deforested land. There's this false perception that pastures and prairies are all native but the actual native grazing lands are naturally low yielding. Regions with more rainfall and faster vegetation growth are more forested while the great plains are more arid. Irrigation turns the plains into great land for crops. While grazing cattle are more profitable on deforested land in rainy climates. If that land was converted back to forests, the carbon capture would be massive... and that isn't factored into any of the climate models. So, while a deforested pasture is more biodiverse than monocrops... forests are radically more diverse than deforested pastures. We need a government initiative to pay farmers to become land managers reforesting their land. A carbon capture incentive program that people and private companies could help fund... which already exists in some capacity.
@vylbird8014
Жыл бұрын
You give the deniers too much credit. They'll come up with something far stupider than that.
@joelpearson2352
Жыл бұрын
For those getting the wrong message, INDIVIDUAL ACTION IS COLLECTIVE ACTION if many people do it. If you demoralise others or excuse yourself from individual action, you're also disrupting collective action. Getting solar, joining a protest, voting, pressuring systems to change, gardening, organising, or eating less meat are all individual actions that become collective because everybody's doing it. The more people who do it, the easier it is for more people yet to join. If everybody waits for each other to go first, we have no action. Thanks to those who don't wait, we have collective action. There's no such thing as literally only one person acting.
@Alex_Barbosa
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't collective action be more like industrial sabotage?
@nigelrosario4367
Жыл бұрын
I hate that you guys missed the mark on the ideology behind Veganism, but I'm so glad that the same information that vegans have held signs and marched in protests surrounding the environmental impacts of animal-based foods, has finally gained the credence that it deserves. People have been slandered, stalked, harassed, jailed, beaten and killed for challenging these corporations - corporations that actively seek out scientists to create flawed-design studies that favor their industries, just to create enough doubt in the consumer so that they can continue with growing their bottom line. I suspect that the growing climate crisis will increasingly bring plant-centered diets to the forefront of the discussion, and we can all get on the same page. Although, we've lost our voices, either literally in protest or from anti-vegan keyboard warriors, it feels good to be heard; I just hope we can still make the impact we need. Because man wouldn't it be a shame. A solution so simple, but our concerns of cultural traditions and emotions trumped the survival of most species on Earth (in the long run). We shall see.
@catherinekrzan6605
Жыл бұрын
Vegan is ethical, healthy and sustainable.
@holnrew
Жыл бұрын
It can be healthy, but I'd argue that it isn't inherently. It's easy to eat very poorly on a vegan diet, I know from experience lol
@Blueeish98
Жыл бұрын
I know that this was already mentioned by lots of people in the comments, but veganism is not a diet, nor a lifestyle, it is an ethical and political position against animal cruelty in all forms, that impacts our way of consumption in a capitalist society. We could say that the lower carbon foot emissions from a plant-based diet, it's a byproduct of that ethical position. I imagine there is a lot of content on the internet that considers "veganism" (plant-based diets) as the ultimate solution to climate change, and being a vegan for years myself, I rarely find such content. But IMO, and looking at the obvious statistics, it's still more effective than using metal straws and recycling. A plant-based diet is not fixing the root cause of climate change, but neither are famous activists or campaigns or speeches from governments from the Global North. However, its presence it's important to question not just the causes of the climate crisis, but also question the oldest oppression system in History: speciesism. I buy all my goods directly from farmers, which is not a luxury in the tropical country I live in. I know that buying fresh goods in other geographies is considered a luxury, but not here, and not in many places of the Global South. Why do I mention this? because of the erroneous idea that veganism is only possible when you're privileged and rich. Hasta que todas las jaulas estén vacías.
@ishathakor
8 ай бұрын
i really think on an individual level the focus should be on promoting REDUCING meat consumption and animal products rather than ELIMINATING it. saying "don't eat meat" scares people off but saying "eat less meat" scares less people off. people generally aren't ready to give up meat entirely but a lot of them will be willing to give up meat for a day or two every week.
@tasshznoclue1006
Жыл бұрын
I live in switzerland, where we have direct democracy, and we have voted on an initiative to ban factory farming and stick to more humane treatment of our animals, its quite shocking to see what is going on in the US and other countries.
@standowner6979
Жыл бұрын
You have democracy 😂. That's one heck of a joke.
@edusch
Жыл бұрын
From an animal wellfarist point of view, yes, that's better. From an animal rights point of view, that doesn't mean much, animals are still exploited and viewed as resources to humans taste buds. From an environmentalist point of view, that is way worse. Factory farm actually is a huge saving of resources (terrain, water, crops) and would be impossible to feed the world demand with pasture raised animals
@SharienGaming
Жыл бұрын
@@edusch okay congratulations you failed on multiple fronts: 1) you likely alienated people who generally are pushing for changes in the direction you appear to want to go, by projecting an air of superiority 2) you are factually massively wrong - factory farms are not resource saving...they are wasting an insane amount of resources to produce something incredibly inefficient... if you want efficiency for feeding the world - utilizing the agricultural land reserved for animal feed for a variety of normal crops would go much much further (and we probably could turn a lot of it into forests without an issue as well) banning factory farming in more and more countries (especially if it includes banning factory farmed imports as well) would go a long way towards sustainable food production
@edusch
Жыл бұрын
@SharienGaming 1) there is no "air of superiority", probably this is a reflection of your own conscience about the subject. And, yes, I don't feel like "humanely raised slaves" is a huge win for the animals. I believe this talk about "ban factory farming" is just overshadowing the real subject that we shouldn't view animals as commodities. 2) I was obviously comparing factory farming vs pasture raised animals. I was not comparing with plant based eating that it is obviously way better for the planet, animals and human health. To substitute 100% of factory farm animals to pasture raised would increase deforestation by 4.62 million square miles and the animals would take more time to acquire slaughter weight producing more methane... The only solution is plant based diet. Taking the focus of veganism to "pasture raised" "grass fed" will only delay the real goal...
@tasshznoclue1006
Жыл бұрын
@@standowner6979 explain?
@markustran777
Жыл бұрын
Ofc everyone needs to do their part including big corporations but if there isn’t a demand there won’t be a supply. His reasoning for why it’s a problem isn’t accurate at all. Dude is downplaying it and giving no real answer here. Saying it’s a small step and that it’s hard but we shouldn’t not try it? Why is he even mentioning health in this video? That’s an entirely different subject. Guy is biased and this video is mid. Kinda disappointed in this vid.
@allandm
Жыл бұрын
I'm still at the start of this video... and isn't it just obvious that this is extremely unethical? Just by looking at the way we keep these animals? I don't understand why not more people see it
@Alex_Barbosa
Жыл бұрын
Because animals aren't sapient. They can't comprehend suffering. Atleast that's the idea. Your starting with the assumption that people view animals as valuable life. They don't. That's where you've got to start with most people.
@allandm
Жыл бұрын
@@Alex_Barbosa they can't comprehend suffering, but they still suffer, they still feel pain. I mean, some severely disabled humans can't comprehend suffering right, does that mean we can do what we want with them? Are they not worthy of moral consideration because they can't comprehend suffering? Babies can't comprehend suffering either, would it be okay for me to slap babies then? If that is your criteria then
@veggieboyultimate
Жыл бұрын
Even though i don't eat meat, i eat food like chips, bread, and oatmeal. And switching to veganism is hard for me because i can't separate from those foods.
@ceeemm1901
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's like wanking, innit?
@GS-lq2is
Жыл бұрын
Those foods are usually vegan.
@heronimousbrapson863
11 ай бұрын
Historically, the reason people who lived far from the tropical regions of the world embraced a meat-based diet was because food plants can't grow at those latitudes year round. Even today, to maintain a healthy vegan diet requires significant energy expenditure on transportation, canning or freezing vegan foods. Relying on vegetables and fruits that can be stored over winter would reduce the variety and quality of plant-based diets.
@someguy2135
Жыл бұрын
There are many compelling reasons to boycott animal products. 1-Your own health (vegans are less likely to get the most common chronic, deadly diseases) 2-Helping to end animal agriculture would reduce the chance of another pandemic & other zoonotic diseases 3-Helping to end animal ag would reduce the chance of the development of an antibiotic resistant pathogen. 4-Animal ag wastes a huge amount of fresh water. Each vegan saves 219,000 gallons of water every year! 5-Animal ag is a major cause of water pollution 6-Animal ag is a major cause of deforestation 7-Animal ag increases PTSD and spousal abuse in the people who work in slaughterhouses. Workers in meat packing facilities often endure terrible, dangerous working conditions. 8-Animal ag is a major cause of the loss of habitat and biodiversity 9-Needless killing of innocent, sentient beings cannot be ethically justified. 10- It is the single most effective way for each of us to fight climate change and environmental degradation. 11- Longer lifespan. 12- Healthier weight (vegans were the only dietary group in the Adventist Studies that had an average BMI in the recommended range.) 13- A healthy plant based diet significantly reduces the chances of ED later in life, and even 1 meal can improve bedroom performance 14- Vegetarians and vegans have lower rates of dementia later in life 15- A plant based diet could save money! You could reduce your food budget by one third! 16-A fully plant based diet improves the immune system according to a study published in the journal BMJ Nutrition Prevention & Health 17-A fully plant based food system would greatly reduce food borne illnesses like salmonella 18-A fully plant based food system would be able to feed millions more people. Our population is growing! 19-A fully plant based food system would save 13,000 lives a year from the air pollution caused by animal agriculture, according to a study 20- A vegan world would save 8 million human lives a year, and $1 trillion in health care and related costs (Oxford Study) Links for some of these are at my channel under "About." If you doubt any of them, I would be glad to cite evidence from credible sources to back them up. KZitem only allows a certain number of links at my channel. After I made my list, I found this video with his own list which overlaps mine. He cites evidence from credible sources in the description. kzitem.info/news/bejne/1plss56jrGOjm4I
@astralseaslug546
Жыл бұрын
Very based. And you're right to point out the similarity between bourgeois promotion of veganism and the whole carbon footprint deal. People need to learn about change at the point of production and the workers' collective power
@OurChangingClimate
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's something that I've been thinking about for a while, and felt like I needed to put it in a video
@astralseaslug546
Жыл бұрын
@@OurChangingClimate ✊ :)
@thebowandbullet
Жыл бұрын
That was an unfortunate and yet very common strawmanning of veganism which many people believe because they hear it all the time (confirmation bias) and no one bothers to fact-check it. Many unhoused and low-income people are plant-based. It can actually be quite a bit cheaper to not buy animal products. Nothing bourgeois about it. Also, veganism isn't about diet or humans or trendiness, it's about ending animal cruelty, exploitation and unnecessary killing. The video authors completely conflated veganism with plant-based diets.
@thebowandbullet
Жыл бұрын
@@kemist578 Vegans aren't the ones exploiting, abusing and killing others, and pretending that only people with a certain income can be just and kind is a weird kind of delusion. Then again, you're completely indoctrinated into the mainstream cult of animal sacrifice.
@bluester7177
Жыл бұрын
@@thebowandbulletthat is very dependent on where you are, I'm in a third world country and I can certainly do mostly well without meat but I can't without animal products, because vegetables are expensive here and they go bad quickly, so is hard to get enough protein and also b12 without supplementation and animal products. Also, substitutes are like 3 to 5 times the price, so where I am the only people I know who are vegan are actually rich or well off people.
@PlatinumAltaria
Жыл бұрын
Personal solutions are always the most popular and the least effective. The issue is not meat consumption, it's the way that corporations can externalise the effects of their production. Being able to just dump toxic waste into waterways should not be a thing, anywhere. It's satisfying to think you're making a difference by having a salad, but you're literally eating around the problem. Ethical and sustainable meat production is not impossible, but we have to hold producers to account via legislation.
@TjPhysicist
Жыл бұрын
As someone who was literally born vegan: Very interesting video. A lot of this is centered around the imperial core, but that makes sense. I do want to raise a few points: 1. Humans lived and hunted animals 100,000s years before climate change ever became a problem. Afaik though the difference was volume? I seem to recall seeing studies that showed humans are a much more plant centric diet. Meat wasn't 100% out but animals were left to do what they do and hunted for food (mostly smaller animals), similar to other primates such as chimpanzees. So it IS possible to live in a world that isn't being destroyed and not restrict our diets. We did it before for many thousands of years. 2. You touched upon this little bit but the danger of "imperialism" type ethics is high when it comes to this. The fact is some countries don't have the same level of guilt when it comes to animals. In India, a huge visible majority is vegetarian if not vegan. And while Indian meat dishes exist they're much less common and some animals like cows are straight up banned in some regions. 3. WHAT about other animals, other forms of obtaining meat like hunting of smaller animals? What about regions of the world where not a lot of plants grow for extended periods without extensive technological help, which may come with it's own "climate demons". I genuinely don't know but is hunting rabbits too much worse than getting legumes and fruits either shipped from Florida or whatever or frozen for months?
@elisabethbock5857
Жыл бұрын
It is a good thing if people are able to do it and if done right. Ethical , better for the environment .
@ebubechiibegbula5968
Жыл бұрын
We need to start making meat in a Lab ASAP. ... Not everyone can go vegan that's just the harsh reality
@kurtmill9080
Жыл бұрын
This definitely should have been mentioned.
@ninjanerdstudent6937
Жыл бұрын
There isn't really anything new in this video I did not already know, but every video helps.
@davidmichelson671
Жыл бұрын
We're working to get a ban on slaughter onto the 2024 ballot in Oregon (Initiative Petition 3). We want system change. We can end the widespread exploitation of animals in our lifetimes, and by doing so we help protect our planet as well.
@veganjotaro
Жыл бұрын
In short is veganism the best thing that we can do individually to help slow down global warming/climate change? YES. Longer answer: fully plant based diet in an individual level can only go so far in making significant change regardless of the fact that it IS the single best thing we can do individually, therefore what we need is a completely revolutionary shift in our economic, agricultural systems to a regenerative and carbon neutral framework that would allow for nearly every human on earth to go vegan without going through the painstaking process of switching their diet entirely and other issues like plastics, polition and of course fossil fuels would become obsolete. Full answer: finish watching the video and keep doing research.
@spencerharmon4669
Жыл бұрын
How is being vegan painstaking? It's super easy where I live and probably where you live, too.
@veganjotaro
Жыл бұрын
@spencerharmon4669 it's difficult for a multitude of reasons, not having vegan option at most restaurants near you or weather you pay for your own good, if your parents/guardians allow you to exclusively eat plant based, if you care about how people will react to you declining food with animal products. It's easier for people who are independent adults and have a job because they can do pretty much whatever they want, but the younger you are the more difficult, also if you're poor not because of the food necessarily but the supplements that you need like b12 and omegas. I'm not trying to say it's the hardest thing in the world, but trying NOT to do what's so easy, which is to conume animal products, is pretty stressful when you grow up eating basically that.
@reedclippings8991
Жыл бұрын
If you don't think animal exploitation is good for everyone to support, why is it okay to make an excuse for yourself? Apathy about my relatively small consumer power was the last card that fell before I went vegan. Makes as much sense as not voting because you don't think your vote matters.
@ІлляВетров-й2д
Жыл бұрын
So it can make quite a lot of sense, based on the situation, got it. Thank you)
@co-jt6gd
6 ай бұрын
Maybe not the definitive answer, but it’s ONE of the answers. We need MANY answers and many methods to eradicate this by the time my generation is old and gray.
@anhyates
Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK, I’m always surprised at how much more expensive real food is in the US. And it can be argued that all our food is healthier. How come everything is cheaper and healthier outside the USA?
@powerbottomboi5255
Жыл бұрын
You don’t understand the definition of the word you use. Veganism isn’t a diet, it is a lifestyle, one based on causing as little harm as possible.
@vietnamd0820
Жыл бұрын
I would imagine that the maker of this video opposes the exploitation of humans by other humans…why not also oppose the exploitation of animals by humans? Dogs, pigs, cats, cows, chickens, doves, turkeys, peacocks, ducks and swans all want to live and can feel joy and pain…they deserve happiness as much as we do
@stellarwind72
Жыл бұрын
An interesting fact: 36% of mammalian biomass is humans, 60% is livestock and only 4% is wildlife. 10,000 years ago, humans only accounted for 1% of mammalian biomass.
@Alex_Barbosa
Жыл бұрын
We've come a long way
@VeganWellnessTribe
Жыл бұрын
No solution is complete without us aligning out actions with our morals of non-harm.
@scerb100
Жыл бұрын
I am so glad to see so many comments here pointing out the creators misrepresentation of Veganism. Veganism is ABOUT ANIMALS. Period. Full stop. The environmental issue is a secondary thing, though it still ties in with ultimately living within one’s ethical framework to NOT exploit lives of others. And human beings are included in this, from the workers you touched upon to the often poor rural communities that deal with the externalities. But philosophies of vegetarianism are not new and have been pondered over by different societies long before an environmental impact existed, before an industry existed and before people ate as much meat as they do now. I have never met a vegan who says that a village in Pakistan can’t have their goats. While the ultimate goal of veganism is to end animal usage, the indigenous and people in the non-industrialized world are NOT the primary target for vegans. The next big misrepresentation is around the consumer choice myth. Yes it’s true that adopting a plant based diet is the biggest impact an individual can have. But when it comes to the main aspect of veganism, which is a philosophical belief system, that IS an individual choice to live by that framework. There is no such thing as “having a little meat” as a vegan because you are opposed to what that is in the first place. There are different terms for that- which is “plant based” (a non-ethical dietary choice based on health) or a flexitarian. Both of these are dietary choices. Veganism is a belief system. So yes, you are a bad vegan for eating the thing you supposedly find unethical an immoral. Plant based eaters don’t commit to this and that’s why the distinction is important. A vegan diet is a plant based diet. But not all people plant based are vegans. From advocacy to change menus, to dropping animal additives from consumer products…The whole plant based eating push wouldn’t have come without DECADES of animal activists doing the hard work. And on the topic of animal activists, the FBI cites Vegan Activists as terrorists. The FBI is NOT anyone’s friend other than capitalist interests. And vegan activists don’t run around JUST promoting individual consumer changes. These are people who do the work to expose these exploitative and barbaric industries. These people do the work of trying to influence legislation. And the last aspect you said about tradition. I understand that you’re using stock videos. But every cut you have of vegan food is a plain salad. You say there is no room for peoples sentimental traditional meals or practices. Absolutely UNTRUE. Appeal to tradition May be an emotionally effective argument but logically it is trite. Tradition and culture changes constantly. And most recipes can be tweaked to be made vegan. Vegans have been doing this forever and in numerous ways. There are so many vegan creators out there on KZitem, Instagram, etc making culturally specific dishes. There’s so much and for you to give your non vegan viewers the idea that there are limited resources tells me that YOU are unaware. And it’s ok to be unaware but it’s not to claim your unawareness as a standard reality and present that to millions of people online who are already coming at this with a bias against vegnaism. So no, going vegan won’t “solve” climate change. But it will take animals not only out of the agricultural equation but in labs, fashion and entertainment.
@kindclaw6605
Жыл бұрын
As a vegan you made this frustrating to watch. Veganism is a philosophy not a diet. There is so much more wrong in this video, but I'll leave this main critique here.
@aintnoslice3422
Жыл бұрын
the ethical argument and the environmental argument makes it unjustifiable not to go vegan. But its understandable people will make all kinds of excuses and mental gymnastics to prevent taking accountability for their own actions or (most significantly) changing their lifestyles and comfortable eating habits - we do it all the time for all sought of issues. You can claim you're doing something by being aware of the problem while living the same lifestyle you were previously.
@MarceloMontealegre
Жыл бұрын
There is a justifiable reason to not go vegan, and that is the nutrition. Meat is a natural food for humans, and the richest one at that. Animals should be cared for and protected, and at the right time and with the right methoda sacrificed for food. It's not unethical to eat naturally, but it is unethical to abuse of human nature to abuse animals.
@aintnoslice3422
Жыл бұрын
@@MarceloMontealegre that argument doesnt hold up in living in the 21st century in an industrialised society. We dont eat naturally, nothing about our food system - from factory farms, to industrial-scale agriculture, to GMOs, to hormones and steroids, to pesticides, to logistics systems, to preservatives, to artificial additives, etc - is natural. We have rich plant-based substitutes for just about every animal product, and abundant alternatives for nutrition. Even if still required, there are vitamin supplements one can take for any nutritional deficiencies (which affect both vegans and non-vegans when they don't manage there nutritional intake) which are still an ethical imperative over killing sentient animals. You cant care for and protect animals and farm and slaughter them at an industrial scale to meet current global meat demand. Tens of billions of sentient suffering land animals are raised and slaughtered every year for consumption (and too many sea creatures to even estimates beyond millions of tons). Sorry, but that just sounds like cognitive dissonance, not wanting to accept the inevitable consequences of your food choices. if you already buy your food from stores and restaurants, there is zero justification to not go vegan.
@MarceloMontealegre
Жыл бұрын
@@aintnoslice3422 Plant proteins, vitamins, plant nutrients themselves are not the same as the ones in the animal products, and it's common for plants to have compounds to inhibit their absorption anyways. I aim to grow and eat my own animals but I'm not willing to sacrifice my health to have a superior ethical position. Meat exclusively is the only food a human can survive and thrive on alone. There is an evolutionary history to our food, just like for other animals that depend on particular plant or preys.
@matthewboyd8689
Жыл бұрын
When i learned of this, me with a string will, switched immediately. When i talked to my friends about it, we talked about how it would be difficult for them and agreed that having it so they added one vegan meat meal to their weekly diet and increased the share over the months slowly that it would be fine even if it took 6 months or 5 years to go completely vegan. Remember, new years resolutions fail because of setting the bar to high at the start when you should set the bar you want as the goal for the end of the year and make it an easy habit to slowly work into.
@jamesbyrne3033
Жыл бұрын
That’s a good strategy. Being vegan is easy, but making meaningful changes to your lifestyle and habits is hard. It’s very intelligent to take it slow.
@holleey
Жыл бұрын
Well production is based on demand, but yeah I agree, no adjustment in consumer demand alone will bring forth systemic change.
@iamkrohn
Жыл бұрын
I grew up on a farm and I do not subscribed to vegan ethics, but i do believe for both our health and the environment we need to reduce consumption of animal products as the land use for live stock produced for meat is impacting our climate and our gut health. Our Great Grandfathers ate meat once a day not with every meal
@veganjotaro
Жыл бұрын
It was about time this video got made (by occ specifically)
@pepper419
Жыл бұрын
It's about time people woke up. Veganism is as bad as smoking. Just as dangerous for the body and is killing babies. Ignorance is no excuse.
@hugomarquez3189
Жыл бұрын
The answer is yes. I sleep soundly at night, vegan is the only way, the biggest thing anyone can do for the environment and obviously the animals. As a bonus, you’ll be in the best shape and best health you’d ever been. BMI of 20 at 38 years of age, blood pressure of 120 over 75. No prescriptions. Your body will reward you for doing the right thing.
@katy2176-p3m
Жыл бұрын
apart from when it doesn't, see ex vegans
@hugomarquez3189
Жыл бұрын
@@katy2176-p3m some people succumb to peer pressure and an entire world doing the opposite thing, what a shocker! Also, some people have a tough time digesting fiber since their bodies aren’t used to it, from an entire life not doing it, and can’t figure out how to work through it. It’s to be expected, sometimes the healthiest thing isn’t the easiest thing, doesn’t mean it’s not worth it.
@katy2176-p3m
Жыл бұрын
@@hugomarquez3189 no, people don’t usually give up veganism due to peer pressure, but because they end up with health complications lol
@someguy2135
Жыл бұрын
Ending animal agriculture as we know it isn't sufficient to solve climate change, but is required- "Clark et al. show that even if fossil fuel emissions were eliminated immediately, emissions from the global food system alone would make it impossible to limit warming to 1.5°C and difficult even to realize the 2°C target. Thus, major changes in how food is produced are needed if we want to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement."-as published in the journal "Science" Title, etc-"Global food system emissions could preclude achieving the 1.5° and 2°C climate change targets MICHAEL A. CLARK" et al
@Zezeze.
Жыл бұрын
No, veganism is not The™ answer. I'm indigenous and in the agricultural sciences, and my primary pet peeve with many from the vegan crowd is that they ignore local climates and vegetation when inviting more people to become vegan. Many regions are too dry and cold to support the growth of produce, with grasses often being the only thing to grow in these regions. Moving their herds to graze over these vast areas allows people that have lived in these regions for millennia to survive in the first place. Pushing the production of fresh produce or grains in these areas would be a terrible decision. While I appreciate veganism for the attention it brings to various issues, i think that it's not a general solution to environmental issues. It's a possible solution for some people in some locations with some physical attributes that don't hinder them (like allergies, diseases, etc). In certain locations you would also need additional money to even support this diet, while elsewhere it might be the cheapest option. (Had one vegan tell me that under the definition of veganism, since i reduce harm as much as possible, i can be called a vegan even though i eat meat. I would prefer not to use that label. I think i might've met one too many pushy vegans with a deep need for recruitment and i know not everyone is like that, but at some point the pattern cannot be ignored. But yeah, Veganism is not for every person or every place)
@Kevindavegan
Жыл бұрын
Vegan is first an ethical stance not an environmental or health issue.
@katenpp
Жыл бұрын
No matter if it will solve all our problems or not, people should go vegan because of ethical reasons. Maybe slavery held some emotional cultural value for people or it with it the technological progress could come faster, but we don`t do it because it`s unethical. Animal exploitation is no different.
@ChromeSkeletons
Жыл бұрын
im genuinely confused by and trying to understand this argument about pushing for systems change and not individual change. while i agree that the governments and companies in charge of meat production have far greater impact and power to affect change, won't our individual behavior still need to change? on an individual level we are still going to eat more plant-based whether the government makes us do it by force (or just beginning a phase out of industrial scale animal production) or we do it by choice. and i would rather see people doing it by choice than by force... i just don't really understand this argument. and i feel like people using it to justify not doing anything to change their behavior, even in situations where the plant-based and meat-based options are equally convenient and inexpensive. we should want people to accept that things about their individual life will need to be different in a more sustainable world no?
@jackregnier4810
11 ай бұрын
Small farmer here animal are the solution not the problem. It’s the mismanagement of the animals that is the problem. For one the great planes of the Midwest are so fertile because of thousands and thousands of years of rotational grazing from bison and we can do the same thing with cows. Two pigs and chickens traditionally where the great up cyclers of the world. Restaurants and farms had them around to eat all the leftover food scraps and turn them into eggs and meat. Just think of a world where you could have dinner at a restaurant and not finish you plate, the next day come back for breakfast with the eggs created from your food scraps.
@rebeilsolneman6930
Жыл бұрын
While I agree that going vegan is not *the* answer to the climate crisis, it’s disheartening that an outspoken critic of capitalism doesn’t unequivocally supports it as a first, practical and easy step for most people, at least in the “imperialist core”, with a huge potential to reduce exploitation of human and non-human animals and devastation of the environment. It seems odd to diminish consumer power. Yes, the agriculture industry exerts a lot of power on the food *supply*, but it can’t force anybody to put animal products into their mouths. It won’t be produced what isn’t bought - simple as that. And your arguments against going vegan are weak: eating disorders, tradition, “imperialist” consequences. Really? “Let’s change the whole system of production and distribution and the underlying power structure - oh, no! Hands off grandma’s Sunday roast!” The only argument that has some weight is the potential impact on societies dependent on subsistence animal husbandry. But I don’t see individual vegans or organizations campaigning against pastoral animal husbandry in societies currently dependent on it. In my opinion, that’s a contrived argument from the industry to play one social justice issue against another to their benefit. It’s sad to see it repeated here. Vegans, who generally are sensitive to social justice issues and willing to be actively engaged, would be natural allies in the necessary transformation of the whole food system and alienating them is not in the interest of your own agenda. So, I really don’t understand why you throw shade on going vegan instead of embracing it as a first step in the right direction.
@catfein9827
Жыл бұрын
I have worked with different unions and if you’ve never been inside a Tyson production house, you can’t imagine. The smell alone is unspeakable. I am def also vegan. But not for the smell or sight of processing plants.
@ebisk
Жыл бұрын
From an individualistic stand point, eating a plant-based diet is the easiest and most effective positive impact one can have on the environment. You can make a kinder choice to the earth AND the animals 3 times a day, why wouldn't you??? If you actually care about the environment and want to be the change you want to see happen, go vegan!!
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