I've made countless videos where I argue against the 30-key model in favor of 12 keys...but my new favorite answer is now "infinity keys" 😁
@f_USAF-Lt.G
9 ай бұрын
You know you're a real guitarist if you constantly "fret" about it...
@tommyrocker33
8 ай бұрын
Enjoy your content too Brian, great work man. Learnt a lot from you, good to see you supporting the bass guys 👍
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
cheers Bri.
@davedave8608
8 ай бұрын
there's only one key.. one to bind them, one to rule them all... E flat
@tommyrocker33
8 ай бұрын
@@davedave8608 Hard to argue that 🤘
@thomasfioriglio
8 ай бұрын
Haha, this may be one of my favorites! Mark is all fired up! Very entertaining explanation. Thanks Mark!
@neasom
9 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this ... I find myself at rehearsals telling the guitarist the key is G# or C# for a couple of songs we do because he and I are mostly thinking note names and fretboard positions. I knew it was kinda confusing to say that....now I know why!
@f_USAF-Lt.G
8 ай бұрын
😅... Because, they purposely built the theoretical premise on the harmonic up-stroke as elitists of piano-as-strings.
@FunkadelicPancho
8 ай бұрын
I believe Anthony Wellington was the one who originally posed the answer to his question
@dabanjo
8 ай бұрын
Vic would appreciate this. Infinity keys = you can never stop practicing.
@billywebb4325
9 ай бұрын
Great video. Confusing as hell but it did clear up a lot of questions.
@bobjeaniejoey
2 ай бұрын
I do love an enthusiastic pedantic, music theory snob. I see one every time I look in a mirror. Now I've seen another worthy of the title. Good going!
@d.l.loonabide9981
8 ай бұрын
More evidence that our system for naming notes is stupid. H I J K and L could have saved us a lot of unnecessary calculations for hundreds of years.
@biiiigbooooy
3 ай бұрын
That doesn't actually make things easier, the reason why we name notes is so that our intervals are easier to comprehend, rather than chromatically where each interval would change what note name we use
@thisismybassface
3 ай бұрын
Ummm no
@chasingsunsets380
21 күн бұрын
I think you need to rethink the naming notes thing
@davidbalan6571
8 ай бұрын
Wooten's awards include three consecutive awards as top bassist awards from bass player magazine and inclusion in the top 10 in all of the time by rolling stones magazine.
@humanidrome
9 ай бұрын
A truly brilliant video, I always loved those mathematical aspects of theory. 😊
@f_USAF-Lt.G
9 ай бұрын
😢but it's the transposing the math from the sheet music that steals away sanity from the enjoyment of the endeavours in mastery...
@LESSISMOREMOREORLESS
4 ай бұрын
@@f_USAF-Lt.G even though it's not even mathematically correct haha
@mrsteel250
8 ай бұрын
I'm going to pretend I truly understood any of this while I fervently research music theory
@LMTH27
5 күн бұрын
It can be 30 total major (aka Ionian mode)and natural minor keys (aka Aeolian mode) if you double count the three enharmonic keys B/C flat (5 sharps / 7 flats), F#/G flat (6 sharps / 6 flats), C#/D flat (7 sharps / 5 flats) and there relative natural minors, but those are different in name only and key signature, they’re the same exact tones with the same intervallic movement in diatonic sequence respectively, so I’m sticking with 24 total major and natural minor keys if those are the variables for this proposition we’re working with but infinity works too I mean eternity is all there is ♾️❤️☮️
@JoeMama2112
8 ай бұрын
Mind is blown. You explained that really well!
@Blinkerd00d
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this ... my wife and i were watching that video together a while back and i said "infinite" and then my wife teased me when he said it was 30. Lol
@ProfessorKitchen
8 ай бұрын
I also hate to look like a pedantic theory snob, but I want to point out that, contrary to what Victor W. said, Minor is not a key. Minor is just a mode of Major. If you DO consider minor a key, then you also need to consider the other 5 modes of Major a key as well as the Melodic Minor and Harmonic Minor scales as keys. I know VW was trying to make a point in his video, but it was duplicitous. VW isn't ignorant of these facts and probably wouldn't have made the comparison to a fellow jazz player as he would have been called out for it.
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
Minor is a key. It’s just that it shares the same key signature as the relative minor. Remember, scales are not keys. There is more to a key than a “key signature”. Take written music notation out of the equation and ask yourself “What is a key?” “How do I create a sense of key”.
@davidwallace2950
8 ай бұрын
I'm gonna switch to triangle...one key...!
@DustyD-vv8xb
8 ай бұрын
Nice work on this one! It made my inner theory nerd feel normal....
@daveflood1555
9 ай бұрын
Great video. People who say, for example that c sharp and d flat, are different scales are so 150 years ago. Since the inception and adoption of the equal tempered scale in western music these notes are the same pitch. Prior ways of tuning were like "Mean tone" "Pythagorean" and "Just intonation" each of which had the problem of not being able to transpose a song to a different key and sound in tune. It was Bach's demonstration of equal temperament tuning with the "Well Tempered Clavichord" that kicked off the idea to tune like that and enable transposition of songs to different key without sounding off. Slowly pianos were being tuned this way and so too fretted instruments and fixed note instruments. We should give thanks to this as the bass and guitar would be really rough to play. If a key is per how the piano is laid out then there are 12 to the octave. Major and Minor are modes.
@chasingsunsets380
21 күн бұрын
When people tell me they do not need theory I ask if they know the notes names. When they say yes I tell them that is theory and could thy play without that. Some say yes so I turn around, pluck a note and tell them we are going do a quick change blues in that key, they will lead the band in on the second measure. Okay that makes me a theory geek. But theory is just musical language, the more you know the better you can use it to perform.
@ProfessorKitchen
8 ай бұрын
This is why people hate rules lawyers.
@fabiostabel
Ай бұрын
In the original video, Victor states that "Dorian" is not a key, but a mode, and proceeds to count major and minor scales. In a sense, a minor scale is the Aeolian mode and logically, if he doesn't count Dorian he shouldn't count Aeolian. Then, this 30 keys idea is flawed by his own words. And, as stated in this video, counting double flats and sharps can raise the count of scales to infinitum... but we're still bounded to the same 12 keys.
@talkingbasslessons
Ай бұрын
@@fabiostabel A key is not a mode and the Aeolian mode is not the Minor key. Just because something has the same notes doesn’t mean it’s the same thing. A ‘key’ has a very traditional, specific definition. That’s why we don’t refer to modal music as being in a key.
@lesexplorateurs2052
8 ай бұрын
Your explanation is enlightening, but I think there is an issue with the question. As you pointed out, the question is not on the number of nice scales, or on the number of practically used scales. But the question does not frame what is a scale. You count the number of major and minor scales, but why not include the Dorian, Lydian and scales of the other modes, the blues scale, the pentatonic scales. Maybe Victor’s answer relates to the number of key signatures, but it’s a different question. Marc
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
Because scales aren’t keys.
@stuartchristie8904
9 ай бұрын
There are 12 notes and 7 modes And aeolian (minor) has two variations Harmonic and melodic
@f_USAF-Lt.G
8 ай бұрын
🤔... 252 ? 7 modes × 12 notes × 3 states = 252...
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
Harmonic and melodic minor scales are not a basis for keys. The harmonic minor is simply ‘Implied’ through the use of a dominant or major chord V. Hence the name Harmonic Minor. The traditional melodic minor scale is a consequence of creating a major second from the root of chord V. Hence the name Melodic Minor. You don’t create music using the melodic minor scale as a ‘key’.
@mauricemusician7636
8 ай бұрын
1:35 There's such a thing as E#. It's the leading tone to F# in F# harmonic & melodic minor. Spelling counts.
@talkingbasslessons
3 ай бұрын
You do realise I’m being sarcastic?
@za4310
4 ай бұрын
If we want to call Dorian a mode but not a key why not call ionian or aeolian modes not keys as well? How I see it, there's 12 keys and it doesn't need to be doubled because major/minor are relative to one and other, i.e. the "keys" Cmaj and Amin are the same key but different modes.
@talkingbasslessons
4 ай бұрын
C major and A minor are not the same key. Just because they share the same notes does not make them the same key. There’s more to a key than the scale it uses.
@za4310
4 ай бұрын
@@talkingbasslessons semantics, right? They share all the same chord tones but the chords have different functions. As long as we're calling those different keys why not call all the other modes different keys. It's pretty arbitrary that Ionian and aeolian were chosen as the natural major and minor. You're right if you're talking about western notation and key signatures but what I meant is it's not offering objective truth about how harmony works. It's an imperfect system developed a very long time ago. I understand it but I think there are clearer and more true ways to conceive of it.
@Bassplayingypsy
8 ай бұрын
If you were to find natural major to minor. Then ok. 12 keys. But!. When you get to B major. What is it's natural minor? Ab. Ok. So Ab has flats. But it's natural relative is B major which has sharps. Now how do we fix this? Change the Ab to G#. And now there are about 30 to 34 keys.
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
Relative minor of B major is G# minor. Not Ab.
@tommyrocker33
8 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark, interesting one for sure. So it's more a spiral of 5ths/4ths like a spring, sharps going up forever and flats going down? A question for anyone who can answer - do people write different key signatures for melodic/harmonic minors? Or would you write the natural minor signature then note the differences on the score notes? Hope that makes sense...thanks in advance. And cheers for the uploads, appreciate what you do sir!
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
Harmonic and Melodic minor scales have nothing to do with “keys”. They are a consequence of alterations to the harmony. Specifically chord V in creating an authentic cadence via use of the leading tone. This is one of my biggest issues with the way music is taught in the guitar/bass world. A little bit of theory is often a bad thing. Harmonic minor scales are thrown out there as an alternative to the natural minor scale. That’s not the case. The harmonic and melodic minor scales were named and categorised in ‘theory’ long after their application in music. Bach never thought “Today I’ll use the harmonic minor scale”. Nobody does. It’s just a name we attach to the use of a major chord V in a minor key. Hence the term “harmonic” minor. The same thing applies to the harmonic and melodic chromatic scales. Nobody thinks I’ll use the Harmonic Chromatic scale. It’s simply a way of categorising our use of accidentals in a piece.
@spacewalker72069
8 ай бұрын
What kind of bass are you using, and what are the pickups? Thanks
@jstnxprsn
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for demonstrating why I made the right decision in learning the minimum amount of theory I can get by with. Btw, Victor also said there are no wrong notes, which I believe.
@omg_wtf
8 ай бұрын
Well there's definitely wrong notes. If you are supposed to play an A and you play a B, you played a wrong note.
@jstnxprsn
8 ай бұрын
@@omg_wtf If you are playing in A and you play a B you are playing the 2nd note of the scale and it will sound good. But the fact is if you play chromatically through riffs within the scale, every note can work. You wouldn't want to land on some of them though. They're only good as passing notes.
@MuhammadAli-vp7qt
8 ай бұрын
@@omg_wtf debunked
@omg_wtf
8 ай бұрын
@@jstnxprsn I think it's just semantics really. It also depends on the line. Try hitting a c# as the root when the band is playing in A, you wont be "wrong" per se, but you probably wont get invited back lol. So, yes, in the right context there are no wrong notes, but in the wrong context there are definitely wrong notes :)
@omg_wtf
8 ай бұрын
@@MuhammadAli-vp7qt OK, play c# instead of E for the bassline in Another One Bites the Dust. Let me know if you get invited back
@scottkretsch4887
8 ай бұрын
So to clarify V.W.’s answer- there are 30 uniquely pitched keys? Yes/No?
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
No. There are an infinite number. But there are 30 keys you would rather play in. That’s why I said it’s phrased as a gottya question. The question is at fault. It requires criteria. It’s a bit like asking “How many legs does a table have?” You need a little bit more info before you answer That said, I’m pretty sure 99.999% of musicians would say I’m being pedantic.
@lordofnesss
9 ай бұрын
Sonically and in practice we only have 12 major scales and 12 relative natural minor scales, but ancient music theory came to stay in modern times and make things unnecessarily complex adding extra names to some of the scales.
@f_USAF-Lt.G
8 ай бұрын
🤔did you count in the LCC (Lydian Chromatic Concept) ? Because, the most practical aspect of the key's gravity is it's emotional triggering where it pertains to desired effect_to_affect the audience...
@f_USAF-Lt.G
8 ай бұрын
😮but don't forget the history of chromatic tuning ! 😳because it takes things beyond the: 12 keys 7 modes 3 states 😅that's where the Circle of 5ths has a tuning universe that is infinite... From the piano elitist's tendency toward up-playing in note naming. 🤔so it's somewhere in between the LCC "gravity" and the tuning multi-verse
@lordofnesss
8 ай бұрын
@@f_USAF-Lt.G I know the LCC, it's a cool theory but it falls flat and it's completely worthless and unnecessarily complex. Bach, Beethoven, Mozart or even any modern musician never used it to create good music. It's infinite from the point of view of generating new scales, but in practice, it will never happen because most music is written using the same scales and modes. Major keys and minor keys. So there's no infinite keys in the real world because we love tonality and modality as it is.
@kahwigulum
8 ай бұрын
WolframAlpha is telling me that the frequency of the note C with 10^6 #'s is 3.9e25088 Hz assuming 1 bar of atmosphere at 20C (earth at sea level) and it's played on a piano tuned to A=440. The wavelength of that note is 8.5e25098 meters, which is 8.9e25068 Milky Way's in length. brb, tuning my bass to drop C#.
@esgibtnureinen
8 ай бұрын
How does the wavelength increase with an increase in frequency? I guess you overlooked a minus in the exponent of the wavelegnth?
@rahulrmdeka6446
3 ай бұрын
12 major Keys and there 12 minor keys. + 6 enharmonic keys which are different only on paper otherwise they use the same pitch from some of the 24 keys. That how i think of it.
@ViTAR30
8 ай бұрын
Now I need to look at the meaning of the "key".
@dieumeruby5285
8 ай бұрын
I'm confused 🤔🤔
@blyssfultv5525
8 ай бұрын
When are you going to do Les Claypool's Amanitas bass lesson. Or have you even worked on it?
@cvanhetkaar96
8 ай бұрын
Mmm, the question did also not say that it would be about the “Western keys and scales” so if we look at “Arabian keys” .. In traditional Arabian music there are 24 quarter tones in use, so try to count the the possible in traditional Arabic music to get a more complete answer ..
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
Victor does point out the fact he’s talking about major and minor keys. Remember, scales aren’t keys.
@samstinkeringaround8961
8 ай бұрын
You just melted my brain
@MikeGuerr
8 ай бұрын
I’m not extremely well educated in music, but it is my understanding that In written music there are only 15 keys, as a key signature can have up to 7 sharps or flats. There is no way of indicating in the signature whether a key is major or minor, therefore claiming that there are such things as major and minor keys (in written music) is a falsehood. I understand that key signatures can contain multiple sharps/flats for a single note, but such usage is impractical. So, to me, I’ll hold fast to my belief that there are only 15 “practical” key signatures. Everything else is just “fun discussion”, but not useful in terms of communicating in (most) written music.
@JayDeeChannel
8 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video.
@olivertevcev125
6 ай бұрын
If the criteria is practical use, I would argue there are 12... Well, 13(ish). No need for C# major, when you have Db. Same for Cb... I mean... come on. F#/Gb you can pick whatever makes more sense, so there is the "ish" in the 13. Not bashing the importance of knowing this though, exactly on the contrary, i think the topic is, regrettably, pretty much ignored, on the net at least. But for me it makes sense only the "enharmonically liberal" approach of using what is practical to read/write, or the eclectic "infinite circle of fifths" one. The 15+15 ignores many of both practical and theoretical implications of the circle of fifths and focuses only on writing with one # or b max, but only for the root, and you still wind up with double #/b in those 2 extra scales. So what's the point having those, or conversely, what's the point stopping at 15? Great video though!
@joannalewis5279
8 ай бұрын
This video changed my life 😅
@OskarSvan
8 ай бұрын
He really did go Adam Neely on us
@esgibtnureinen
8 ай бұрын
What do the terms major or minor in the name of a key mean? Is it just based of the third and if that is a minor or major third? Because if you think chords there`s also the fifth included and you have diminished and augmented chords as well. So my first intuition was there could also be for example A diminished as a key.
@omg_wtf
8 ай бұрын
Yes the 3rd decides. The fifth is perfect
@esgibtnureinen
8 ай бұрын
@@omg_wtf hmmm i just realised the question is different. It actually is about the scale. Why are only the major and the minor scales considered. What about A phrygian or A locrian. Aren't that different keys? Because if not the distinction between minor and major doesn't make sense either since they are also just two modes. Then only A, C# or Db etc would define the key and the addition of minor or major defines the mode.
@omg_wtf
8 ай бұрын
@@esgibtnureinen you'd still be in the key of A. The modes are a different thing. I think a lot of people mix up keys, scales, and modes
@esgibtnureinen
8 ай бұрын
@@omg_wtf "you'd still be in the key of a". That's the point i try to make at the end. Why is A maj a different key than A minor? Isn't the key in both cases A and the minor or major afterwards defines the scale/mode?
@omg_wtf
8 ай бұрын
@@esgibtnureinen Am is the relative minor of CMaj. Am has no sharps or flats in. AMaj has three sharps in, and its relative minor is F#m. They are very different keys. This is where the circle of fifths comes in that Mark talks about.
@Eyeballkidd
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for melting my brain this morning lol
@MrVyrtuoso
8 ай бұрын
Yes he's seriously wrong. There are not 30 keys in music. There are 30 keys in 7-tone diatonic scale structures where the key doesn't have to refer to any of its scale degrees as double flat or double sharp, 15 in major and another 15 in minor. But 7-tone diatonic structures are not the only tonalities in music.
@glennlilley8608
8 ай бұрын
Well, this video did a fine job of frying my head, be honest, how many times did you trip up and restart your narration?
@NiqScott
8 ай бұрын
@talkingbasslessons Would you mind making another video, where you break down (not literally) and discuss the number of keys on a Microtonal bass. I'd like to think you'd reach a point at the end of the video where only dogs could still hear you, and I'd like to be able to say "I was there when Mark's head exploded".
@chesspunk489
9 ай бұрын
I feel like my head is going to explode.
@f_USAF-Lt.G
8 ай бұрын
Then your playing bass too close to the guitarist's amp... You gotta find a medium zone so you aren't pummeled by the drums or nagged by the guitar !! Maybe if you re-read the Lydian Chromatic Concept, you can center your gravity better...
@chesspunk489
8 ай бұрын
@@f_USAF-Lt.G he lost me once he started talking about double sharps and double flats.
@jazzman5uk
8 ай бұрын
I'm not a music theorist, but I understand music theory (at least I think I do!) well enough. There are only 15 possible key signatures that you can write down so saying that the minors are also keys is a bit confusing. Here are my thoughts: E Minor and G Major have the same key signature so why are they two different keys? Well of course one argument would be that it’s the tonal centre that makes the difference (I’m assuming that’s what Victor Wooten is basing it on), but E minor is really just E Aeolian. If I was to play in F# Dorian, I would still use the same key signature as G major so why not say there are 105 (7x15 for each mode) keys..? 😉 I’m happy with “Infinite” keys though! I’m not making a statement here, just playing Devil’s Advocate from a modal perspective… I’m sure someone with a music degree would be able to say why that may be wrong but to me, it’s just because we are so used to a “Relative minor” yet it’s just a mode… Please be gentle!! lol 😊
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
Key signatures and how we interpret them are based on classical tradition. There is more to a composition than a key signature. Think about what determines a key in a piece. It’s not a written key signature. It’s the functional harmony. The harmony is outlined in the music. Many people that don’t read music or have only an elementary grasp of music ‘theory’ will look at a piece and, understandably, assume the key signature dictates the key because, on the face of it, that’s the only obvious indication. But the written music itself will provide way more info on the tonal center than a signature symbol. The key signature may have one sharp and indicate G major but the harmony and music will tell you what the key actually is. Whether that’s E minor or G major or something else. It’s just that many bass players that can’t sufficiently read a score will see the Key Signature and end there. When it comes to modes, they are outside the standard classical tradition of writing but, in general, you shouldn’t relate them to the major scale. You should consider them major or minor based on the third. G Mixolydian would use a G major key signature, not C major. This is because the key signature will indicate the tonal center a little better. D Dorian would use a D minor key signature and adjust the sixth with accidentals. This is also going to be more useful when dealing with modal interchange.
@jazzman5uk
8 ай бұрын
@@talkingbasslessons Thank you Mark, what a fantastic answer! I really appreciate you taking the time to reply and explain that. It makes so much sense, especially when talking about the third. After all, you see major and minor chords but not Dorian or Lydian chords as such! That has really helped clear that one up for me, I can see why D Dorian would use a D minor key signature now, cheers!
@indigo.isaWake
7 ай бұрын
stupid shit like this is why I love music theory so much.
@eralar2
20 күн бұрын
Imagine if, at the time, they had decided to write notes with 12 hard notes instead of minors and majors on 7 notes... many theoricians (or is it music theorists in English?) would not have their jobs 🤣
@theredshirts7245
8 ай бұрын
Once we went to an equal tempered tuning, I feel that ended a true “infinite” number of keys. The currently tuning system truly makes our concept of keys a modular arithmetic (circular number line) instead of a linear one. Even if there were a reason to play Ab AND G#, I feel that only really made a distinction when we used a tuning system based on ratios rather than a compromise to get all keys equivalent. I would have bought into Victor’s argument (for more than 12) if he had a rationalization like: Major, Minor, Harmonic Minor, Melodic Minor- or something like that.
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
There are many reasons to use different keys over an enharmonic equivalent. Especially when factored within a single piece using modulations.
@Sanemancured
8 ай бұрын
I’m looking for Victor’s comment😊
@user-lv1pz5fh9i
8 ай бұрын
wojtek pilichowski bass lesson please
@dieumeruby5285
8 ай бұрын
Can you tell me in french please teacher im really confused 🙏🏻👏🤔
@paulandcorinnekozak1138
9 ай бұрын
I loved your video and don't care about you being pedantic. Keep them coming.
@f_USAF-Lt.G
8 ай бұрын
😂 It takes being a pedantic to keep up with the pentatonics...
@stevonico
9 ай бұрын
There is only one key. The chromatic one 😂
@ajadrew
8 ай бұрын
It's the best key in the world!!!!
@esgibtnureinen
8 ай бұрын
key is not equal to scale. The chromatic scale could be in c in d etc. depending on which note you start with
@ajadrew
8 ай бұрын
@@esgibtnureinen And each note in the chromatic scale creates harmony. so Playing from C is its own sound. Starting from Db creates the same degrees of harmony as C....but it's a half step up. There's loads of study material out there if uncertain.
@SidSomething
8 ай бұрын
Just play the darn thing
@f_USAF-Lt.G
9 ай бұрын
Thank you ever-so much for the analytical work that was necessary to present to all of us lifelong students of music theory 😊!! 🤔but is 30 keys pertaining to melody creation... And, 34 keys pertaining to developing composition ? 😂Maybe we need another video just to be sure !! 😅Please ?
@NiqScott
9 ай бұрын
12 Fight me
@NiqScott
9 ай бұрын
The real answer is "As many as you need there to be"
@f_USAF-Lt.G
8 ай бұрын
Someone already commented that there are: 12 notes 7 modes And aeolian (minor) is divided by harmonic and melodic 🤔but does 30 keys cover melody creation and 34 keys cover developing a composition ?
@douglasbroccone3144
3 ай бұрын
12
@Muck-qy2oo
8 ай бұрын
Let's go from microtonal to nanotonal. 😁
@garyeggleton1142
3 ай бұрын
12 keys for moi
@mmartak
8 ай бұрын
Oh boy, you didn't even mention microtones 🙂
@BenD_Bass
9 ай бұрын
Lol i really enjoyed this video
@josip1881
8 ай бұрын
That all confusion raises also from bad tone naming, when i started bass before 20 years ago i learned in different standard to "encode" note names: E, F, Fis, G, Gis, A, B, H, C, Cis, D, Dis, no need for sharps/flats. On a freetles bass you can have C# #/2 (half sharp) xD If you include Major and Minor, why not then and exotic scales?
@dinoduprey6676
8 ай бұрын
Aaaa haha!! What a duche bag !! Gotta love Mark!
@docteurpikachu6913
9 ай бұрын
Checkmate Victor.
@talkingbasslessons
8 ай бұрын
I actually agree with him
@docteurpikachu6913
8 ай бұрын
@@talkingbasslessons Right. Nobody would want to practice infinity scales whenever we're told to practice in all tonalities.
@afolalurotimi2849
24 күн бұрын
more confused
@aingeru11
7 ай бұрын
WHAT A WASTE OF TIME. Look at any Chopin´s o List score and don´t waste time
@MarkMarxonsBassChannel
8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this 😂
@JLP59
5 ай бұрын
I call B S. Lol. 12 keys. But each has its voicing. Make it simple.
@d.l.loonabide9981
8 ай бұрын
Why are you only counting Ionian and aeolian?
@serpico975
9 ай бұрын
He is wrong when he says “There are no wrong notes“.
@talkingbasslessons
9 ай бұрын
Well... a wrong note would be an unintentional note. So from that perspective, yes there are wrong notes. Victor's take on that is different. Change your perspective and play with conviction and an unintentional note takes on a new life and becomes intentional. However, the argument people take that there are wrong notes based on harmony are in error. A dissonant note is not a wrong note. Playing a Db over C major, or an F# over a G7 or an Ab over an Fmaj7 are not examples of wrong notes. Context, rhythm and function all have to be taken into account before you can call a note wrong from a harmonic/melodic standpoint and even then that's pushing it.
@lilmelvin11
9 ай бұрын
Well-stated.
@serpico975
9 ай бұрын
So there are wrong notes…. whether unintentionally or played in wrong context, rhythm and function. Moreover, not everybody likes Jazz and in general, a note played wrong - even with the utmost conviction one can have - is unpleasant to the ear and still is a wrong note.
@talkingbasslessons
9 ай бұрын
@@serpico975 A wrong note is unintentional. But then again some styles of music call for a total lack of intention. I’ve played in contemporary classical ensembles that required a total disconnect from intention. A lot of this is based on the music you are playing. That’s why in this video I said that there ARE 30 keys…if you don’t consider the bigger picture. If you want to restrict the question to certain styles/scenarios that has to be factored into the question. Otherwise they’re gottya questions.
@f_USAF-Lt.G
8 ай бұрын
🤔a crunch of notes is played 2 & 3 at a time, even with accompanying chords... So, if you play what is written - even the notes you think are wrong, are right. But, if you factor that those crunches are played on piano before being written you will see the crunches are mostly "wrong" when playing bass, and should opt towards playing the improv of alternative chords with chord progression. 😂but, that's just a "theory"
@fkutw4tt3rtub3
8 ай бұрын
I think this is the breakpoint for when musicians should collectively agree to allow "flat" notes to represent their "sharp" equivalents even if in playing the note "sharpens" to keep it within comprehensive limits Great video, not so pedantic and annoying as you present it :) My own thoughts were very close to that
@222rich
6 ай бұрын
I am thick
@crescendo5594
3 ай бұрын
We’re really not looking at this right. We haven’t even discussed the elusive quadruple sharp. Edit: My surprise when I thought I was being clever, and then you revealed that the quadruple sharp is literal
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