The passing choke got it right...tight at 40 but not to much at 25 yard.
@terryclark9603
4 ай бұрын
A very important subject to discuss is oil or no oil in your gun barrel. Any body know...some of us know but a lot don't know. Wd 40 or gun oil or none detergent 30 weight motor oil or no oil at all. What is the answer. Love your scientific videos George. This would be a very good video. Thanks Ironman in Alabama 73s
@BenGotti_25
4 ай бұрын
Missed a double last Saturday morning with a buddy. I’m sure it was user error but Damn I was Shocked…. 13 steps and a not a dead bird ? Definitely got me thinking
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Yea, those pellets would definitely do the job at that range if they hit. But this happens all the time. More likely to miss at close range for sure.
@timbenson279
3 ай бұрын
I run Muller chokes and really enjoy your videos! Keep em coming!!
@TheNewHuntersGuide
3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Snailz5
4 ай бұрын
I’ve recently been on a kick at looking into double barrel guns for turkey hunting. Why be forced to find a compromise when you can have a choke for close to medium and a choke for far shots. Use some combination of 9, 9.5, or 10 shot for close and shoot an 8/9 blend for longer shots (8/9 blend seems to be the secret sauce for a TIGHT pattern). If you hunt mixed woodlands or out west where birds can legitimately walk out in your lap or you can get busted at 300 yards, you don’t always get to choose your optimal distance.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Its a brilliant plan actually. I've been thinking more and more about it myself.
@eduffy4937
4 ай бұрын
The turkey o/u from cz is a great. Quick select the barrel/choke combo holding the best shell for given ranges.
@Joshua-yr2fz
4 ай бұрын
This is a secret waterfowl video to me. I hunted last year almost exclusively w a Muller Passing out of my Benelli w TSS. First, my gun choke did appear to perform Amy better than the factory full with TSS. Second., looking at your results the Passing in gun is a very versatile choke for both turkey and waterfowl. It shoots very much a full pattern and really balances pellets in the kill zone over the other two chokes at birth 10 and larger circle. The decoy choke is very much a waterfowl choke/IC. More than enough at 20 yards, but for turkey and my waterfowl with there is no guarantee. I would be happy with what I am seeing to 40ish yards for waterfowl. I actually got another Muller Passing to try.
@dannybyrdjr919
4 ай бұрын
Another great video! Look folks if you haven't subscribed....subscribe!! This man's shoulder has took a beating for us for a long time and the content is excellent. Thanks and keep em coming!
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate it.
@robertlivingston1634
4 ай бұрын
Never heard of using #9 for turkey I always figured #5 was a good load hmmm.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
#9 TSS is the standard. You're thinking of lead #5. The two are comparable in terms of ballistic performance. But the #9 does it in a much smaller pellet with many more in the shell.
@robertlivingston1634
4 ай бұрын
@@TheNewHuntersGuide thanks for the insight
@stevefasching8250
4 ай бұрын
fantastic video. much appreciated
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@markhall1169
4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the videos brother
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hunting24seven365
4 ай бұрын
Another great video. Ive been running XRs w a modified choke for years now. I just personally prefer them inside 30 yards to begin with but can go to 45 if i have to. Last couple have been inside of 15 yards.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Nice!
@muddybadgers5205
4 ай бұрын
I really like what you're doing with all the testing and great information. Do you think different constrictions effect velocity and penetration? It makes sense to me that a tighter choke would slow down the shot more
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
I don't think so, but functionally it probably doesn't matter. You can't use an open choke at the distances a few more fps might help. So for the hunter, you just choke for the pattern you need.
@veteranironoutdoors8320
4 ай бұрын
Already got my two for the spring. First was 30 yards and second was 60. Ironically using Boss tom and muller ufo 😂
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Nice! Congrats!
@-B_G-
4 ай бұрын
My average is between 35-45 yds hunting open hardwoods, open pine, and clear cuts so I like to keep mine tight with a 9/10 blend so the closer is also manageable. The closer they are the lower on the neck I aim.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Nice. 9/10 is a potent load.
@bent5434
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I introduced two friends to your channel!
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Thanks do much Ben!
@jesseregister2435
4 ай бұрын
2 things: 1. Got to do this with Winchester Longbeard XR. 2. Were those 2.5 oz loads kicking?lol
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
This video was the precursor kzitem.info/news/bejne/rnqD1KKjbqhmmoY the LB didn't do as hot as expected with the wide open chokes. But 6s might have done better. Modified would probably be way better for that and most TSS loads. This shells were REALLY kicking after about the 3rd shot. The first one or two were ok. After that, I was feeling it.
@duke1386
4 ай бұрын
When are you going to do a collaboration video or podcast with Titus from MVM?
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
I don't know much about them honestly. I've only listened to the interviews with Jimmy Muller.
@MrGrunter
3 ай бұрын
Small detail, but in a perfect world with the effective pattern centered at aimpoint then your margin of error would be half the effective pattern diameter, which compounds the point you are making in this video.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
3 ай бұрын
Correct!
@cihan9118
3 ай бұрын
This man talks too much but talks good and experimental 😊
@MiguelCarole
4 ай бұрын
Just saying, I really think you should include the barrel length in your videos. You know I would really like to see a video unexplained choke size construction
@TheDks300
4 ай бұрын
Barrel length has nothing to do with patterns. Constriction (chokes) make the pattern.
@MiguelCarole
4 ай бұрын
@@TheDks300 true it doesn’t matter that much when you’re shooting expensive TSS. but when it comes down to shooting simple lead like Longbeard XR I find having any extra inches helps
@TheDks300
4 ай бұрын
@@MiguelCarole it doesn’t matter even with lead. Perhaps lengthened forcing cones can help with a smoother transition to the choke but many barrels are made with standard, short cones regardless of length. Choke is literally the variable that matters, barrel length does not effect patterning or at least not statistically so.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
I've probably said it'd a Mossberg 940 pro turkey with 24" barrell topped with a holosun 507k red dot so many times in so many videos that I say it in my sleep, lol. Not sure how I forgot to mention it here.
@MiguelCarole
4 ай бұрын
@@TheNewHuntersGuide I wasn’t wondering what the barrel length was I’m just saying for new people that come to the channel that may not know. Thanks for your time.
@AaronBleess-yz4cw
4 ай бұрын
14 yards for me this year. Last year 8 yards.
@wdtaut5650
4 ай бұрын
This year was about 12, last year about 15. I still carry Long Beard XR, but last year and this year, I used my own 1 3/8 oz. hand loads. I could have used skeet loads at hose ranges. My personal limit, even with XR, is 40 yds. I know my 1 3/8 oz. #6 loads will do the job at 30 yds. The Number One lesson from all New Hunters Guide videos is pattern _your_ gun with _your_ choke and _your_ shells.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Preach it!
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
What choke are you using for those?
@AaronBleess-yz4cw
4 ай бұрын
@@TheNewHuntersGuide carlsons extended turkey choke, I think it’s .050 constriction. Using 20 guage Frderal game loads 2.75” 7/8 oz number 6 shot.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
@@AaronBleess-yz4cw Nice!
@nathanielseth-d5j
4 ай бұрын
I have a Winchester sxp long beard edition and it came with winchesters xtra full turkey choke and I tried the boss Tom and it blew the pattern all over about a 3 foot piece of cardboard. Could that be what’s happening here is the choke it too tight?
@nathanielseth-d5j
4 ай бұрын
Also this was at 40 yards. Only about 80 pellets in a 10 in circle
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
Yea, the BOSS Tom does best at .670 or more open. It's doesn't like too much choke. Apex is similar.
@-B_G-
4 ай бұрын
Also the heavier the load (Boss loads theirs very heavy) the more open the choke you need to prevent blowing it, the lighter the load the more constriction you need.
@nathanielseth-d5j
4 ай бұрын
Thanks guys. It’s doing really well with federal heavy weight and I took a tom last week with it. I’ll probably switch to the ufo for the rest of the season to run the boss
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
@@nathanielseth-d5j Congrats!
@craiges85
4 ай бұрын
I sometimes wonder if this guy is a hunter or a killer…
@TheNewHuntersGuide
4 ай бұрын
This morning it was just a hunter. Only saw 1 hen, and heard no gobbles.
@eduffy4937
4 ай бұрын
Click subscribe and like people. Its free and keeps these videos coming.
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