This is the greatest platform discussion of All Time Merch moistglobal.com/ I stream every day / moistcr1tikal Ludwig's video • KZitem is Killing Twitch
Not only can KZitem ads be skipped, if you miss something you can back it up 30 seconds Twitch's ads are so intrusive I often turn it off to find something else to do
@Capnamerica84
2 жыл бұрын
That's why I put my ads on minimum on Twitch. 1 ad of 15seconds an hour I believe.
@WzDk13
2 жыл бұрын
@@Capnamerica84 why dont you just use adblock i dont get it do people not know it exists?
@kameronjones7139
2 жыл бұрын
@@WzDk13 so they don't screw over the people they are watching for free
@jbbrolic
2 жыл бұрын
Brave browser zero ads, ever
@chronosbat
2 жыл бұрын
@@WzDk13 Ads still show up even with am adblock.
@poopalol6605
2 жыл бұрын
I think twitch is killing itself. It’s clear biases to certain content creators, it’s uneven rules and it’s sometimes too harsh or too gentle punishments for people that break TOS.
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name........
@jaspermidnight850
2 жыл бұрын
@YeaMan you couldnt even spell page right ik you’re a bot but do better LLLLLL
@samuelemasci7620
2 жыл бұрын
"its", not "it's"
@hellowell3743
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diedqra random dose of racism... Doesn't get censored. But the "wrong" political opinion _will_ get censored... The geniuses of KZitem hard at work.
@Frongo
2 жыл бұрын
both twitch and youtube are killing themselves but twitch is just doing it quicker
@shahhaque5242
2 жыл бұрын
it is still so surprising that after all this time, KZitem never considered to update their chat overlay ever since they have implemented livestreaming options into the site. I really do hope they do this if they are seriously going to consider competing against twitch
@dksbh8342
2 жыл бұрын
Yes well look how long twitch had there first chat overlay... along time and it was terrible... it will get better
@MementoTurtle
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch is shooting their self in the foot, I don't think KZitem will even need to compete
@FrostDrift69
2 жыл бұрын
@@MementoTurtle Big facts, twitch is ran by Bozos.
@ThatGuy-hu9mt
2 жыл бұрын
They probably are working on it at the moment, just that they’re probably trying to polish it and it’s probably gonna take a fair amount of months, if not years-assuming it’s been put into production
@methatron3002
2 жыл бұрын
Keyword in streaming
@hushhushkitten
2 жыл бұрын
He really hit the nail on the head when it comes to Twitch advertising. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve clicked onto a Twitch stream then immediately left because I didn’t feel like waiting through long ads.
@clash_king1025
2 жыл бұрын
I never watch twitch VODs because they make me watch 3 30 second ads in a row before I even get to see the streamers “stream starting soon” screen. There are things I like about twitch but VODs are definitely not one of them And also I watch twitch on mobile…. Which comes with its own issues….
@nerdstop5025
2 жыл бұрын
@@clash_king1025 as a small streamer myself, that's why I've started posting my vods onto KZitem, for that and the fact that they won't disappear after a week.
@mryellow6918
2 жыл бұрын
All I want to do is browse to find somone I like. And it makes it impossible
@clash_king1025
2 жыл бұрын
@@nerdstop5025 That’s another thing about them that pisses me off the fact the VODs are gone after a week I can’t believe I forgot about that. I was so mad about the ads I forgot if I don’t decide to watch them in a week I’ll miss it completely
@nerdstop5025
2 жыл бұрын
@@clash_king1025 if you have Amazon prime, they stay up for a month 🙃
@DominicDore
2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if YT Premium gave you a free membership to any channel that has it enabled? It would be just like prime subs, and they would probably get more subscribers. Nothing more enticing than the ad-free KZitem experience with additional benefits.
@discount1493
2 жыл бұрын
ad blockers exist for a reason
@darianstarfrog
2 жыл бұрын
@@discount1493 ya get more than that bud
@pieman6178
2 жыл бұрын
When you have less restrictive and unbiased rules that you enforce equally across your platform you will attract much more creators. It’s not shock that KZitem stream is rapidly growing and will overtake Twitch soon. Twitch did it to themselves, this is much deserved karma over the long term Edit: KZitem as a plot form still has a lot of improvement to do and room to grow to catch up to twitch but if done right will be the dominate platform hands down
@Mr.SoggyShoes
2 жыл бұрын
@Kavetion 💀
@Yawnsixx
2 жыл бұрын
As bad as twitch may be as far as the management of the platform goes, I 100% agree it sucks. But the sad part that makes me have little to no motivation to leave twitch still, is that twitch's monitization requirements are TREMENDOUSLY easier than youtubes. The algorithm has even been Tremendously better in my experience. KZitem is absolutely TERRIBLE at getting new content creators work out there in my 5 years of experience, vs where I have grown to the same level it took 5 years to grow on KZitem on Twitch in only half a year. KZitem's monitization requirements are HARSH as well, damn near IMPOSSIBLE for new creators to reach within any amount of time that won't take several years off their life just for a CHANCE you may not fail and not have to start the requirements list ALL OVER AGAIN. This factor alone, at least for people who aim to make streaming a career, makes Twitch, as flawed as it is, still INFINITELY better than KZitem.
@joshjo9405
2 жыл бұрын
A bitch got railed on Twitch 7 day ban KZitem: non age restricted uncensored gay porn
@4Curses
2 жыл бұрын
Good joke. "unbiased rules that you enforce equally" You are really saying that after the whole Cory-thing? I rather have some simps that go light on a bunch of woman, than racists and bigots that demonetize content based on size or skin color of a creator.
@arandomcommenter412
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem is definitely unbiased, they’ll content strike you for no reason no matter who you are!
@AYJ
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch is killing itself due to being bias against content creators, specially with the recent controversy
@joshjo9405
2 жыл бұрын
A bitch got railed on Twitch 7 day ban
@nathandrake3418
2 жыл бұрын
Really couldn’t add the extra “e” to especially could ya
@liquidtv1720
2 жыл бұрын
Like Jidion for example
@AYJ
2 жыл бұрын
@@liquidtv1720 exactly
@AYJ
2 жыл бұрын
@@nathandrake3418 not sure bro, English is my 4rth language
@Floris_VI
2 жыл бұрын
I really hope twitch stays or becomes strong competition, youtube already has a monopoly on everything else video related and we REALLY need youtube to have competition
@thug_a_la_fraise885
2 жыл бұрын
twitch will remain a good competitor if and only if they stop doing the shit that they are right now. They have to be clear about what happens to people who violate the TOS and be more consistant regarding the way they apply their rules. When you see a chick having sex on stream and get a 1 week ban and other guys get a definitive ban for way less, it's not hard to see why people are leaving. KZitem isn't great either but at least they are eaqually bad to content creators and you know what to expect from them
@WilliamJay
2 жыл бұрын
That is the only reason I want twitch to survive. As someone who doesn't interact much with chat and mainly watches on mobile, KZitem is an objectively better platform.
@xPhantomxify
2 жыл бұрын
The day Twitch prime ends, is when KZitem wins
@serily4524
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, twitch is a garbage platform that should fall.
@Floris_VI
2 жыл бұрын
@@serily4524 yeah, you need a lesson in how modern capitalism works lol
@championzeme3141
2 жыл бұрын
The truth is that Twitch has had a bad rep for years on years 😭 but now some of the mainstream YT is calling it out better and more 💯🙏
@Diedqra
2 жыл бұрын
ME ENCANTA FOLAR Y EYACUULLAR EN LA NOVIA DE Penguinz0 PORQUE SUBO BANGERS!! 😂👌 (translate pls)
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name........
@9008-k1kMZ
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed with that fax’s
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name........
@OfficialExplosionMusic
2 жыл бұрын
@YeaMan the music on my page is better than YeaMan lol
@boopinoop4545
2 жыл бұрын
Another thing streaming on KZitem has over streaming on twitch is the fact that KZitem isn’t exclusively a live streaming site. This aids creators to have more people watch their content because of the added amount of people who prefer watching a normal pre recorded video to watching live streams. It also gives creator the ability to make more content for their audience when not streaming. Not to mention the fact that people tend only watch a creators content on one given site, so if all of the stuff they do is in one place, it just means more people will watch the thing that was on another site
@tessierrr
2 жыл бұрын
You can do all that while streaming on twitch too 🤣
@wazsan
2 жыл бұрын
@@tessierrr sure but KZitem has more leniency with tos so vods for example are more better for the creator to upload and not edit vs twitches dogshit tos. Not that yt is perfect or anything but still.
@boopinoop4545
2 жыл бұрын
@@tessierrr don’t you need to be an affiliate to be able to post pre edited videos to twitch? Where as with KZitem you can just do that from the moment you make your channel. Also I’ve never heard about this feature on twitch until you brought it up so that’s kinda telling that no one ever talks about it
@ARTSONICFAN990
2 жыл бұрын
Im with Charlie on the Pre-roll Ads on both Twitch & KZitem. Most KZitem Ads are skippable but you can't skip Twitch Ads... Especially when you click on a stream only for an ad or 2 to pop up in just a few seconds.
@sandile377
2 жыл бұрын
I don't use twitch because I get 5 or 6 unskippable ads
@NoEphingIdea
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem is rolling out unskippable pre roll ads now lmao
@xbon1
2 жыл бұрын
@@sandile377 use extensions
@HyperCozmics
2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to think about, if someone has youtube premium, you will get no ads at all. No matter what stream. While on Twitch, you have to subscribe to each streamer for no ads. So if you only watch 1 person on Twitch, you do get more value (at tier 1 sub), but if you subscribe to 2 people on twitch, you are basically paying the same as youtube premium. Which is much worth since KZitem isn't a only streaming service.
@XBravo1CharlieX
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch has something called Twitch turbo that they hide and make it hard to find but it does the same thing as KZitem premium and turbo is 7 dollars per month
@HyperCozmics
2 жыл бұрын
@@XBravo1CharlieX oh I didn’t even know about this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! But what I read is 8.99$ per month. Which is cheaper, the only downside I think is you don’t get the emotes from subscribing to someone, and also sub-only chat. But having no ads will really help the viewing experience. Imo, youtube premium is still better but that prob because I use youtube way more than twitch.
@smallfryskilledge1550
2 жыл бұрын
@@HyperCozmics as far as I am aware youtube premium doesn’t give you sub only (member) emotes or sub only (member) chat either.
@harnageaa
2 жыл бұрын
@@XBravo1CharlieX the only difference with youtube premium is that it offer 'more', that's why more expensive. I pay like $8 (more expensive other countries) but I can have no ads + I can play youtube music anywhere that otherwise would either not work properly (like spotify free). So premium on youtube is like having, spotify + twitch turbo (at the same time) E.g: I have google products (google nest hub/mini/etc) and without premium they don't let you play on more than 2 devices at the same time . The idea is that seems more useful youtube premium than twitch turbo in terms of usability
@Skyye_dior
2 жыл бұрын
Yt premium *
@gandpork
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly if KZitem can just fix it’s algorithm problems, it’s copyright systems, and how and when videos get taken down I think it’ll hold a total monopoly on creator made videos
@thinkhector
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem doesn't have an "algorithm" problem per se. They are just pushing some content and surpressing others on purpose now instead of being neutral like before.
@Jack9C
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch and KZitem are used for different things because they are different platforms (different purposes). Twitch has been a loss for Amazon since it was acquired and is purely an engine to generate/continue Amazon Prime memberships. Believing that KZitem can kill Twitch is just plain wrong. KZitem hurts twitch a little, but KZitem will never give creators robust APIs for game-specific content because KZitem isn't just whatever-KZitem-wants-to-be. KZitem is Google's content platform with known ad revenue economics and they haven't had to build much on that product, in a decade. The programmatic APIs that enhance games and streaming are a necessary pre-requisite, which has been a lesson learned within Twitch. Google will never integrate that kind of control into KZitem, much less sink a bunch of money into yet-another-money-loser. A dedicated streaming platform with different rules and controls would have to be a different service, so we're back to talking about what would Google risk/develop to get a service that will be a net loss (without some sort of bait, like Amazon prime)? There is nothing, so youtube is stuck in it's current form. These videos about KZitem vs Twitch seem completely out of touch with the realities they were born of and exist within.
@gandpork
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jack9C I don’t know what most of that meant but it sounds smart so I’m going to agree lmao
@TornaitSuperBird
2 жыл бұрын
@@gandpork In simpler terms: There's a lot of games that have Twitch integration directly in them (for example, members of chat could vote on stuff that would directly influence what's actually going on in the game, even without the streamer's control). Also uhh, something about Google not wanting to take the risk of doing shit like that unless it's guaranteed to make them a fuckton more money.
@Krysisbliss
2 жыл бұрын
As a small affiliate streamer, I have seriously considered streaming on KZitem. Even if I lose the following, I would much rather have more fun and not have people wait forever in the beginning of my streams waiting on ads. That’s not why I do streaming. I do it to share the love and jokes with everybody! And I think most small streamers can relate to that, twitch has been kinda thorn in the side for me personally.
@dustymax56
2 жыл бұрын
On the point of discoverability, I've noticed KZitem has begun placing low view videos and streams in the sidebar. Right now the 3rd video is an elden ring streamer with 35 views. Last video was a video essay with only 5 views. They're making an effort at getting these smaller channels in front of people.
@DjMines
2 жыл бұрын
I stopped streaming on twitch for 2 reasons. 1) the ads. It has become ridiculous on twitch. 30-60 second forced ads 2) people generally just watch the top streamers and makes it difficult to grow. KZitem in my experience has been 100x easier to grow on because yt videos are always out there. Then u build an audience and when u live stream it's great
@DatAsianGuy
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, the only way to grow somewhat, and that is limited in itself, is to do something niche on twitch.
@tr4sh37
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that I can rewind KZitem Live streams and then play them 2x speed or slower makes it so much better than Twitch imo to watch games.
@ShaggyMcSwaggy
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a guy who switched from Twitch to KZitem and here's my perspective on discoverability between the two platforms. I streamed on Twitch for a full year in 2021. Had a consistent 4 day schedule of about 4-6 hour streams. I did 24 hour streams, react content, meta games, a hot tub stream, a podcast, collabs with multiple streamers, and constantly looked to improving channel point interactions, chat interactions, and making the stream as entertaining as possible. During that time, I gained around 120 followers. Since moving to KZitem to stream in May, I've climbed over 900 subs while mainly streaming and uploading shorts. Playing meta games along with having clean titles and decent thumbnails to back them up feels like the key. I stream 3 times a week with a consistent schedule and more people have found me than ever before. I will say that finding the streaming section takes a bit and trying to find a GOOD youtube streamer is hard, there's a lot of garbage to sift through so I understand your point, but you can definitely be discovered and grow by streaming here. I'll always be a twitch frog and love twitch chat, that's a massive thing that's needed for KZitem to really swim to new levels. And that's about it so yeah
@720pchannel
2 жыл бұрын
Discoverability is incredibly shitty on Twitch. Moist is on extreme copium when he says it is the other way around
@anggasatria8813
2 жыл бұрын
@@720pchannel ya my friend start streaming in youtube and getting 8-20 viewers and having 60 at somepoint(1 month streaming),but twitch is literally 0-4 in early month,but if twitch recommend u through first page boom u got clear 400-2k viewer, and i dont know how the algorithm in twitch work too so i guess its luck?
@sk-ig4wt
2 жыл бұрын
@@anggasatria8813 most likely twitch gets paid to put those on front page
@trickyabb
2 жыл бұрын
One word bots
@jeremyzapsmash
Жыл бұрын
you missed the chance to say that's about it see ya
@vector3366
2 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest reasons why I don’t use twitch is the amount of ads I get. On youtube you only need youtube red to avoid all of this but on twitch you need to sub to every channel you want to watch
@6210classick
2 жыл бұрын
youtube red?
@OniNeko.
2 жыл бұрын
@@6210classick He means KZitem Premium which used to be called KZitem Red in the past. I think it's $11.99 a month and it removes ads from videos/streams, give's creators you watch more money when watching their content, and adds mobile features like being able to listen to a video with the screen off.
@6210classick
2 жыл бұрын
@@OniNeko. KZitem Vanced...
@FreshMedlar
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch is on top because of the illusion it gives to viewers to have a bond with the creator. It thrives on people weakness and it's sad.
@trexasaurus5322
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. People think they’re best friends with a content creator just because they interacted with chat. Most of them do it for money or clout, nothing more.
@intheweebcloset5908
2 жыл бұрын
I actually don't want one streaming/social platform to gain a monopoly on things, it'll give that platform too much power. As it is, KZitem doesn't have a true vod competitor and I would prefer that to change. In regards to streaming, as long of Twitch allows more stuff (you can get away with more on Twitch) they'll always be a place for it. Additionally KZitem is somewhat plagued by "corporate" accounts that will always be pushed to us. Talk shows, vevos, etc...
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name........
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name.........
@hellowell3743
2 жыл бұрын
At this point most the big tech companies need to be broken up. It's become a joke. Twitch had a monopoly for a long time. But KZitem & Google are just as evil.
@tristancoffin
2 жыл бұрын
@@hellowell3743 Disney....
@x-fun3149
2 жыл бұрын
@@tristancoffin Disney's going steady on killing themselves. Just look at this year's D23 expo.
@victoriarousee
2 жыл бұрын
This is off topic but at 6:35 the corner chart matches perfectly with his window
@TheRoyalTamarin
2 жыл бұрын
It's more like Twitch is killing itself with it's biases towards creators and terribly flimsy regulations, and on the other hand we have KZitem sinking itself with poor monetization, stupid business, removed dislikes, etc.. It's hard to declare a "winner" when they're both sinking deeper and deeper, though KZitem has less grounded problems, or not as serious as Twitch.
@bknighty28
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch likes to throw me 6 adds back to back within 3 minutes of being on their platform and I promptly close twitch. Rip to the creators I enjoy on that platform but the people who run that website are beyond incompetent.
@nightfr09
2 жыл бұрын
I really really like the ability to pause streams, especially with things like Critical Role- where they stream to both KZitem and twitch. If I'm watching a 4 hour stream, I like the ability to occasionally pause
@NaruBrilu
2 жыл бұрын
Same. I enjoy youtube vids more, but like the occasional time i go to watch a stream on twitch that annoys me almost as much as ads lol. Like wdym i cant just pause it and then resume it back in thhe exact spot i paused it at. Cuz u can hit pause on twitch but then when u it resume it just goes back to where it is live. Plus you cant rewind either. I like being able to rewind if i missed something
@ChazzDex
2 жыл бұрын
But if you pause a stream on YT the chat will still be the live chat so the reactions make no sense. On twitch you could instantly switch to the VOD of the current stream and everything will be in sync.
@striker3190
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChazzDex twitch vods suck tho
@NaruBrilu
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChazzDex i dont really care for the live chat. Dont even use it really when i watch streams
@reggiewright3702
2 жыл бұрын
Something people I don't feel mention enough when this topic comes up. KZitems player is significantly better than twitch's being able to very quickly rewind the stream to catch up on topics and them immediately switch it back to live is so easy on KZitem livestreams
@seeyoucu
2 жыл бұрын
Completely correct about ads. That is totally why I decide to not stay with new streamers.
@TheLaceylou92
2 жыл бұрын
Luds face at 5:25 is me everytime i get reminded of facebook gaming
@SuburbanSurron
2 жыл бұрын
i love how charlie always knows about people uploading stuff but never has any of them subbed 😂😂
@trequor
2 жыл бұрын
I never watch twitch for one simple reason: donations. Like 50% of a given stream is the streamer saying "thank you for the donation". It's brutal and tedious
@smallfryskilledge1550
2 жыл бұрын
Then you should watch cable tv or something. Live-streamers will always want to thank people who donate money to them.
@EpicBlackflame07
2 жыл бұрын
Clearly you're not watching smaller streamers
@NepSpoon
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem doesn’t even have in their contracts that the streamer has to run their own ads. Lily for example never runs her own ads, only one that she has done was when Ludwig raided her and told his chat to tell her to run an ad and for them to not leave her stream till she did
@theph0enix404
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch having such a big competitor hopefully causes some positive changes in the company and to benefit the streamers/chat.
@hellowell3743
2 жыл бұрын
lol that will literally never happen. Like Tumblr or Yahoo they will run it into the ground.
@The_Original_Barbie_Mcdonald
2 жыл бұрын
If you like one piece you should watch this youtube channel MangaMark he reacts to One Piece.
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name.........
@MelodyGardenia
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that youtube also sucks and has its own slew of problems, so its not a net gain
@ryukami404
2 жыл бұрын
We can hope but with Twitch being owned by Amazon is what concerns me. Amazon would rather cut their losses and shut down the platform if the competition gets too tough.
@ReadyJP
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem still has some features to implement to catch up to Twitch, but at the rate Twitch is going, it won't be long till KZitem is knocking at their doorsteps
@RayRaven
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite stream is interacting with a streamer, getting 3 minutes of ads while they're responding, and losing all that interaction.
@willnutland5772
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch seems to be killing twitch, unfortunately
@Diedqra
2 жыл бұрын
ok niɡɡer
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name........
@KitchouaTembo
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, twitch needs no external help in the Killing Twitch department
@manfromhamaslume
2 жыл бұрын
and youtube is killing youtube
@jbs.wrld1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diedqra whadafuc?
@lordfarquar9215
Жыл бұрын
KZitem ads make the site feel like a scammer hotspot instead of the forum it once was. This saddens me
@The_ASMR_Listener
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem needs to update its platform to help streamers or content creators who want to become streamers. i don't think it should be a normal thing to make multiple channels just to organize content from the main channel. just make it a new tab like twitch does. there are so much inspirations youtube can take from twitch but I think the first thing they should do is have a way to separate streams/VODs from the list of normal videos
@MrHale
2 жыл бұрын
These days in KZitem, you usually have 2 preroll ads, one being skippable after 5 seconds and one not. I think the longest non skippable ad is like 15 seconds, so even with those it's only 20 seconds of ads.
@angelofthedead5589
2 жыл бұрын
Ooo, hello, it’s a me from the future. Specifically a WEEK in the future… and my sweet summer child, Twitch has REALLY shot itself in the leg this week alone. I’ve never seen a platform speedrun any% its own death.
@ShinySwalot
2 жыл бұрын
The difference between Twitch ads and TV ads is that for TV, the content stops while the ads are running. With Twitch, you're missing out on maybe a really funny moment which makes those 4 minutes feel like way longer because you're nervous of missing out
@Jcraft153
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, you should look into KZitem shadowbanning songs on 'sensitive' topics like they did to "Racing Into the Night"/"Yoru ni kakeru". If you search the english name, the song doesn't come up, it only appears if you search the name in japanese and even then if you click it it's locked behind a "this content is sensitive" warning. It's shadowbanned for english/non-japanese users even though it has millions of views. Makes me wonder how many other songs or videos are just shadowbanned from the platform just because they cover topics that youtube finds unsavoury like suicide.
@Quinn_Toast
2 жыл бұрын
The difference between twitch ads and tv commercials is that you’re not missing content when the tv goes on commercial break but you miss content during twitch ads
@КГБКолДжорджКостанца
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch is slowly killing itself, though KZitem is one of the factors to why twitch is falling a bit but it's a minimal reason, it's mostly controversies involving unfair bans....KZitem however isn't exactly a modernly fair platform, heavily censored Twitch has the worst guidelines and often make bans for ridiculous reasons in circumstances like gender....it's sad
@Philipp..
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem is currently experimenting with Twitch like unskipable ads too
@lukalekishvili7497
2 жыл бұрын
only plus for living in a small country is that i have no ads on Twich and very short ads (mainly 5 sec non-skipable) on KZitem
@mr.bitsbyte4664
2 жыл бұрын
I miss mixer. I started watching mixer soon after PUBG came out, made a lot of friends and had a lot of fun. I wish it was better managed and survived. It also pushed twitch to get low latency streaming, which for a long time was a feature mixer had a huge advantage with.
@BigManSchwanz
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a good thing that twitch now has some competition for streaming. Even though it might be even harder for smaller creators like myself to get noticed.
@vectorstriker217
2 жыл бұрын
if youtube figures out how to make the live streaming experience better for both creators and viewers, twitch is in big trouble. They have a massively larger audience than twitch on the site so its just a matter of time before twitch's lack of improvement on the platform catches up with them
@exetone
2 жыл бұрын
The only issue with twitch are the ads. It's ridiculous they expect people to watch twitch when they get 6 30 second unskipable ads before a livestream
@armedmonkey5846
2 жыл бұрын
Also having to sit through 2 she hulk ads ruins the experience.
@andrew4446
2 жыл бұрын
I like how charlie openly talks about twitchs short comings knowing that if they ban him he could just go to youtube and most of his audience is actually there too
@zeening
Жыл бұрын
the fact that youtube's chat CONSTANTLY randomly breaks and resets and scrolls from the VERY beginning of the stream to the current position, which if it is a long stream with alot of people chatting not only takes a long time everytime it happens(every few minutes literally) and makes reading/using it significantly worse, that and constantly deleting comments and messages that say anything remotely "bad" or with too many "bad words" or using a "bad word" right after or before the word "you"
@carlthellama3435
2 жыл бұрын
Not all ads are skippable on yt. Not to mention you get ads at the end of videos too…it’s goofy.
@PoomiestPoom
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I expected nothing less from KZitem. If twitch is so shitty even KZitem's in a way commenting on it yk smths up
I disagree about being lucky about the ad break timing, when I click on a stream and there's an ad break, I get the pre roll ads and then the ad break
@clashwithkeen
2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy to me that everybody knows and are complaining about what's holding youtube streaming back but they're not taking the efforts to fix it. (at least in any timely matter) I heard they're going to implement gifting which is a good start at incorporating the things that make twitch superior. They honestly should just borrow (steal) everything that twitch has going for it. Number 1 like everyone says is discoverability. YT needs to completely segregate their livestreaming platform from their VOD platform. A complete UI overhaul where you can see who's live on a side panel just like twitch has. Until they do this that's probably their biggest weakness and they will never come close to competing with twitch until they do so. The next big thing is fixing the notification system. This ties into the separation of streaming and vod interface because stream notifications just get lost in a sea of upload notifs but not only that, the thing nobody ever talks about is how YT updates its notifications. There's been countless times where I'm watching a long format video like a podcast or similar but because the notifications don't get updated until you refresh or navigate to a different part of the site, I miss entire streams because I never get the notification until it's already too late and the stream is over. I could name a dozen more things but I'll say one more that nobody talks about and it's a part of community building. People say that twitch's feel of community is one of its biggest strengths but there's multiple reasons for why that is. Being able to jump around easily (again UI navigation and being able to see who's online when) between streams and being part of a shared viewership community of multiple streamers, chat being able to communicate as a monolith collectively through emotes which improves feedback and chat-streamer interaction, (I guess yt is working on that by adding BTTV etc and I'm not sure but are you able to use emotes from one stream on another? because that's an enormous factor behind the feeling of cohesiveness within the community) and this last point may sound dumb to those that don't understand but offline chat is an enormous factor for creating a sense of community. Not everybody joins discords, follow socials and streamer subreddits and offline chat is a place where viewers can talk and interact with each other and makes them feel like they are a part of a collective. There's so many more things I could add but I feel like these are most of the key components that keep twitch on top and until YT counters all of them they will never be a true competitor in the streaming space. People will put up with incredible amounts of abject foul behavior from a platform like twitch as long as all these other needs are met. I feel like YT is being lobbed a soft ball in the batting cage but they refuse to take off the blind fold in order to smash it over the fence. The UI is nerfing them beyond belief. Nobody is going to read all this but I just felt like saying everything I feel is holding YT back as a streaming platform because I really wish there was an alternate option and even though I never watched much of mixer I was sad to see it go.
@avasam06
2 жыл бұрын
My big problem with youtube streaming is that I can't set my new streams to automatically unlist themselves once the stream is done
@YBWSinn
2 жыл бұрын
I figured this was going to happen since twitch double down on the ban it’s sad to see twitch is dying for the creators but frick the ban staff (not all of them)they never treated their creators with respect and they had their twitch partners wrapped around their fingers while they could less of a frick about the rest and the massive amount of sexism(explicitly attractive females)just goes to show how fricking disgusting they are twitch needs to change!
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name.........
@YBWSinn
2 жыл бұрын
@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 okay…
@countofst.germain6417
2 жыл бұрын
Yep the unskippable pre roll ads really turn me off Twitch
@officialbfi01
2 жыл бұрын
The Twitch pre roll ads that happen when you click on a stream are the #1 reason I do not use the site. They are so annoying
@elena_23
2 жыл бұрын
twitch just sucks for anyone who isn’t already successful. when i was interested in streaming on twitch, the first piece of advice i’ve be given by pretty much everyone is “grow your platform somewhere other than twitch, you won’t gain viewers naturally there” the main thing i liked about twitch as a mobile viewer was out you could do that in-picture mode. i hated watching streams on youtube bc i couldn’t do anything else on my phone without closing the stream.. but recently that’s been changed so that problem is irrelevant
@rataarctica
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, YT Premium is actually amazing when watching streams!
@mycookiehasnoname
2 жыл бұрын
1:30 Ludwig literally look like he's on acid lol
@olurn1x
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem is dominating the competition to be honest, their shorts have become way better than tiktok itself
@Diedqra
2 жыл бұрын
ok niɡɡer lmfao
@epicgamingmoment2715
2 жыл бұрын
most youtube shorts I see are just reuploaded tiktoks tho
@dontreadprofilephoto1728
2 жыл бұрын
Dont read my name.........
@alanwatts8239
2 жыл бұрын
@@epicgamingmoment2715 But that's like, not KZitem's fault. lol
@Major003
2 жыл бұрын
There's also the whole "not loaded eith Chinese spyware" thing. Well, not yet, at least.
@Truffle_Pup
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem has ads? I've had an adblocker on for so long I didn't even realise
@chaseclason6608
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently as of hours ago KZitem is experimenting with 5 to 10 unskippable preroll ads...
@lazarvuckovic8377
2 жыл бұрын
they are closing the gap on the ad stuff, youtube realized that they can cash in more of the time and theyre testing 6 5 second unskippable ads in a row😭
@Madderthanjoker
2 жыл бұрын
Hasanabi's stream has a 60 second ad break every hour. A minute feels nothing but those pre roll ads are just there waiting to jump you and steal your lunch money before class starts. It's just so dumb on Twitches part.
@HH-le1vi
2 жыл бұрын
Pre roll ads aren't part of the ad break.
@nattvandrarn1
2 жыл бұрын
yeah i never got pre roll ads. straight up makes me leave
@dfa1t
2 жыл бұрын
I really think youtube could make something kinda similar to twitch prime with youtube premium. idk exactly how much it is but if they also add a free sub every month on top of no ads in videos i think it could work kinda well
@XBravo1CharlieX
2 жыл бұрын
Nah KZitem premium is like twitch turbo no ads on the platform
@thinkhector
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem Premium is awesome. Even if a channel you like gets demonitized that's just ad revenue. That channel still gets your premium money. Also, KZitem Premium comes with KZitem Music. An absolute killer feature. Amazon Prime should stop walling off Amazon Music.
@FromTheSky0
2 жыл бұрын
can confirm, when I feel in the mood to watch people on twitch(i dont watch streams often) im always hit with a huge ad and it just turns me off so much I just close the app. It kills the experience
@xthexpunisherx
2 жыл бұрын
I don't watch twitch because of the pre roll ads, it's such a pain. I can't find new people because I need to watch 4 ads before I try and see a new person
@nyxicide
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch has recently introduced a 3 minutes of ads per hour for affiliates (I'm assuming it's generally been rolled out and I wasn't early), and it disables prerolls. Period. Also raised the ad cents a bit to be a little higher, not that it matters as a small creator really, but at least the prerolls are gone Edit: also to be clear I still think how twitch ads work is trash, but at least I don't have to remember to mandatorily run ads to remove prerolls
@arandomlego5826
2 жыл бұрын
I use the picker wheel too, I love the sound effects it makes
@cyril6277
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch is killing itself, Twitch is technically speaking a superior platform to KZitem in every single way, but Twitch's employees, leadership and poor social interactions is what killing its company. A Shame really.
@RMDetho
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem is also killing KZitem. There are commercial breaks almost every minute when I watch on TV, an 8 minute video will usually contain from 2 ads up front (usually 20sec unskippable lately, before it were either 5 second ads and longer skippable after 5 seconds), 1 on the end, and one every minute-minute and a half that usually contains two 5 second ads or some combination with that. It's getting crazy. I'm actually considering going back to watch TV, at least there the commercials are in one chunk so I can go take a shit in the meantime, with these ones, I can't even get a glass of water consistently.
@elking5799
2 жыл бұрын
If you back out of video an see how much ads they try to give you it's about 20-25 times of clicking in an out of the video jus to not get a ad an they're usually unskippable
@faj2600
2 жыл бұрын
youtube needs to starts promoting livestreams like the normal videos
@toast_zzz
2 жыл бұрын
honestly i think if someone like charlie moved over to youtube streaming he would do really well because he already had a large audience here
@justlenny3782
2 жыл бұрын
It's the same when a bigger twitch streamer chooses to raid a smaller streamer when they are finishing for the day. They send all their viewers over but you're immediately hit with pre rolls so you miss their initial reaction/shock at the raid, the best part, and probably makes most raiders just leave before they even watch the new guy.
@killtheftfear4925
2 жыл бұрын
So I’ve never used twitch once and this opened my eyes a bit cause you are 100 percent right about checking out a small streamer and getting hit with even 2 minutes of ads would make me immediately click to a page.
@toothpastemain
2 жыл бұрын
Another problem with Twitch ads is that the streamers can't postpone them. This is especially a big deal for game tournaments streaming to Twitch A notable example is the final match from Apex Legends Global Series a couple years ago ended in a heal-off, but nobody got to see the end of the match because several minutes of ads started playing over the last 60 seconds of the match. It wasn't for 2+ minutes after the match that viewers actually got to see the results by checking the VOD
@BadDubII
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch ads are seriously starting to piss me the f off. Even ad blockers are having a hard time trying to keep up.
@DogsWithPurpose
2 жыл бұрын
If Twitch doesn’t fix its policies and whatnot there isn’t any hope
@c4mprnapper932
2 жыл бұрын
Yea hes right, I immediately log out if I'm hit with ads at the beginning of a twitch stream, ain't nobody got time for that😅
@GagaPOD
2 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if KZitem showed ads to a viewer after a certain amount of time watched. No pre roll ads, viewer stays, and might consider becoming a member more this way. The only downside I can think about is possibly less money, but I think the overall implementation would be beneficial site wide.
@INeed333Quid
2 жыл бұрын
Advert stuff is dependent on country. Quick google says in the UK its 7 minutes per hour
@sundaynightdrunk
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch chat also thinks pre-roll ads are controlled by the streamer and get pissed that "I had to watch four minutes of ads to get here." It happens all the time. And where the hell do I find a list of streams on youtube? I have to go to "Live" on the sidebar, and how many people do that at random?
@Forgotname
2 жыл бұрын
The timing couldn't be more perfect KZitem just started to experiment with 5 unskippable ads when you said youtube ads are better than twitch
@vladhansen3697
2 жыл бұрын
Intrusive ads shouldn't exist in the first place. Put them off to the side of the page so they don't stop me watching the video.
@tobiaslisbjerg8390
2 жыл бұрын
the fact that people can use the argument "yeah, but you can just download this third party program, so its better than twitch" legit made me die. Also KZitem gives me 3 minute un-skippable ads. KZitem is just as bad as twitch
@Ikadyne
2 жыл бұрын
Before I found out that there are Twitch adblock scripts, I would close out of every stream that gave me pre-rolls because I wasn't about to watch a feature film of ads.
@summstagram1028
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem also flexes in the sense of the paid membership model. Pay a flat fee to get rid of ads (streams or static content) instead of having to sub to multiple Twitch streamers
@saintofthechurchofautism8433
2 жыл бұрын
YT : >CCV is culled coz lot of reasons, ex : if you use adblock yt won't count you in CCV >People still used to twitch when they say YT is worse >In YT streamers competing with Mainstream media & edited VODs which is superior to livestreaming
@Sebastianator01
2 жыл бұрын
bro really had to bring up the actual statistics for how many minutes of ads you watch every time you watch TV or Twitch..... SMH TWITTER
@DDobs12
2 жыл бұрын
I stream on YT...it's def tough since I'm not into social media or making videos. But.....it's honestly fun and i prefer it to twitch because i can playlist everything after and keep the streams as videos.
@ImpulsiveLimbo
2 жыл бұрын
on KZitem I have been gett 5-8 ads lumped together and being unable to actually skip. it's pretty ridiculous I assumed it's to push views to pay for the subscription
@Sigr.
2 жыл бұрын
Just get an AdBlock
@ImpulsiveLimbo
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sigr. I don't believe we can just on the TV. We usually stream rocket league on the TV app.
@Sigr.
2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulsiveLimbo Ah makes sense, I remembered watching KZitem TV on my PlayStation and getting extremely annoyed by the tons of ads that were playing. I decided enough was enough and used my laptop, installed an adblocker and watch KZitem from there
@ImpulsiveLimbo
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sigr. yeah it's been bad recently before we could skip the 1-2 but it forces five to eight ads that are 5 seconds long. I did find out though our roommate has the KZitem subscription so he's just going to put it on all the TVs with his login so no more ads
@ImpulsiveLimbo
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sigr. it's nice you only need one account and can login multiple devices
@camerella2514
2 жыл бұрын
As soon as ads come on twitch I just close the app itself
@143jcm
2 жыл бұрын
open twitch, click a stream, get 7 unskippable ads, ads finally end, audio is delayed, refresh, get 7 unskippable ads, close twitch.
@alwayshere6956
2 жыл бұрын
Nice switch around from "KZitem is " to "Is KZitem"
@browniegames865
2 жыл бұрын
Twitch ads suck ass. My app always messes up causing me to reload the page and it makes me rewatch ads everytime.
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