Check out the episode description if you want to know more about where I found the Soggy Dollar Bar recipe.
@tylergrutbo766
8 күн бұрын
“It’s an interesting take. It’s bullshit but it’s interesting.” Thanks for calling out the BS of trademarking simple cocktails.
@ViewerofContent
8 күн бұрын
Thank you for the history, I had no idea Pusser’s wasn’t the original base spirit.
@ashergreen3356
8 күн бұрын
The Pain Killada is a terrific take on the Painkiller. Highly recommended.
@powermonger9090
7 күн бұрын
Yep I really like Distinguished Spirits riff. Hope Derek covers it.
@jackywhack
8 күн бұрын
Love the video! Appreciate the history, research, and commentary, as opposed to just another recipe video. This has been my favorite cocktail channel on KZitem lately.
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@Kingyubi72
5 күн бұрын
I’ve just been adding a little gran marnier to my piña coladas and calling it a day
@ultimatemaitai
8 күн бұрын
We did basically this same experiment (including one that had equal parts orange/pineapple). The results were surprising and varied: Ultimate Painkiller 1½ oz Hamilton 86 Demerara Rum 1 oz Lemon Hart 1804 Demerara Rum 1 oz Coconut Creme (Coco Real) 3 oz Pineapple Juice 1 oz Orange Juice Mrs Mai Tai’s Painkiller 1½ oz Hamilton 86 Demerara Rum 1 oz Lemon Hart 1804 Demerara Rum 1 oz Coconut Creme (Coco Real) 1 oz Pineapple Juice 2 oz Orange Juice
@ultimatemaitai
8 күн бұрын
I've also made Painkillers with Pussers Gunpowder Proof and also with Smith & Cross Jamaica rum, both were better than the standard issue Pusser's or 86 proof Demerara.
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
I'll have to run through these and feature one in the next Painkiller episode. And I promise to do it blind because otherwise I'd choose Mrs Mai Tai's. I'll keep an open mind.
@ultimatemaitai
8 күн бұрын
@@makeanddrink It's basically the same as yours, though I split the rums and used a little extra. I too felt 4 oz pineapple was too much but was shocked I liked the heavier pineapple version better.
@petes5152
8 күн бұрын
Your Ultimate is my recipe as well except I sub the Lemon Hart for Smith and Cross and will sub the Orange Juice for Tangerine if I have it on hand. I love this drink but mostly for nostalgia reasons (spent a good bit of time bumming around the BVIs in my youth).
@sergisamongas
8 күн бұрын
Yep, I use either one of those rums, plus OFTD.
@louis5668
8 күн бұрын
I have a Painkiller on the brunch menu in all my restaurants. I love telling this story every time we roll out brunch in a new location.
@EggwardEgghands
3 күн бұрын
I made a Painkiller the other day using a blend of 1:1:1 Plantation 3 to Goslings to Smith and Cross. I like it. I used freshly squeezed orange juice and grated both nutmeg and orange zest on top. This brought out some orange notes from that supporting player. Not something I'd do every time but a nice addition I think.
@liath611
6 күн бұрын
My recipe is 1 and 1/2 oz of oj 3 and 1/2 pineapple 1/4 oz lime 1oz cream of coconut 1oz Appleton estate 1oz Coruba and 1/2 oz smith and cross and do cinnamon and nutmeg on top
@ILuvRum
7 күн бұрын
Finally, a little love for one of my favorite rums, Cruzan.
@lokmtb8503
8 күн бұрын
I like the version from PKNY. Get the cocktail paired down to right amount of juice so you know you're actually tasting a cocktail. Obviously I bump up the recipe to 2 oz of rum. 1 1/2 oz Virgin Islands Rum 3/4 oz Coconut Cream 1 1/2 oz Pineapple Juice 3/4 oz Orange Juice Nutmeg
@katiediaz6034
6 күн бұрын
The Original Soggy Dollar is the best! I have many, many of those cups!😂
@MarkusKhan_
8 күн бұрын
I love the shade lmao
@LeBlancKnives
8 күн бұрын
Wicked history lesson! I knew Pussers were pushy on the trademark but had no idea they had little to no influence on the recipe and name. Definitely gives me a new perspective on the brand. Thanks again for the wonderful content!
@carolinepeterson7995
8 күн бұрын
As always, love how thoughtful and well-researched this was!
@makeanddrink
7 күн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@aginsfbayarea7350
6 күн бұрын
I drank several of the original version from the Soggy Dollar Bar in the mid-80s. I've been pissed at Pusser's arrogance for as long as I can remember. If I'm in a tiki or tropical bar, I'll order, "make me your version of a Painkiller and don't use Pusser's." I'll never send a penny their way. Cheers!
@b0land
8 күн бұрын
I made painkillers last night, following the Pussers recipe. I didnt have orange juice so I used grapefruit juice but I'm not sure I could tell the difference. Goes to show how little the orange juice is doing in that drink
@Spoutnik72000
8 күн бұрын
Screw Pussers! This is the first drink I shook that made me go "Oooooh i get it" so I'm especially bitter that they trademarked the name of a cocktail they have no claim to, just so they could push their just passable rum. My spite for them only doubled because of a bar owner I worked for who was a weird british navy larper (he was just a huge dork and had never been in the navy) who was obsessed with the brand.
@hietanbs
7 күн бұрын
“It’s an interesting take. It’s bullshit, but it’s interesting.” Go get em!! 🔥
@evijade1
8 күн бұрын
Love this one! My favorite cocktail. It’s made terribly in some beach bars, and basically becomes a juice cocktail.
@dennman37
8 күн бұрын
I use the trademarked recipe, but cut the pineapple juice down to 2oz. For the rum I use a mix of any 2 or 3 rums (1oz each) One of my favourite cocktails that way! I will say that I only recently started using Pussers, and I think it works great when mixed with another rum (I use the gunpowder strength) Great video
@nickmonts
5 күн бұрын
you want to try this painkiller twist Cafe Colada 1.5oz (45ml) pussers rum 0.5oz banana liqueur 0.5oz coffee liqueur 1.5oz (45ml) pineapple juice 0.75oz (22ml) cream of coconut (preferably Coco Lopez) 0.5oz (15ml) fresh orange juice 0.25oz (7ml) fresh lime juice Nutmeg
@10ark
8 күн бұрын
I found this cocktail recipe in Beachbum's Grog Log. His called for the Gunpowder proof version of Pusser's. Having tried all 3 rums, the 2 you taste tested and the Gunpowder proof. I always reach for the Gunpowder proof now. Night and day difference between all 3 when you go Gunpowder proof... In my humble opinion. Really great video! Glad I subscribed!
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
Oh I am sure the gunpowder proof would be better and I have a bottle, but I didn't want to have a run in with the authorities.
@lrvogt1257
5 күн бұрын
I do like a painkiller and I have my own recipe. I usually use Pusser’s Gunpowder Proof. This was interesting but I’d like to see a comparison of everything the same except the rum.
@ltdwlbl
7 күн бұрын
I love Pusser‘s version! It gives me hints of dried fruits and Malaga ice cream. The orange juice does give me a little more acidity but I urge anyone to try it with blood orange juice. I tried the original piña colada and found it quite boring and the painkiller became the preferred alternative for me. Both these drinks don’t try to put the rum up front and that’s perfectly fine as it’s a tropical tiki drink and a lot of people just want a juicy cocktail rather than a stiff drink. There are countless other options if you want something stronger ✌️
@feigbuneogmlwefger9402
8 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to hear your take on the tropical standard version!
@surfrat8884
4 күн бұрын
Pussers is absolutely delicious as is their rum.
@11alexstreet
7 күн бұрын
The Trop Standard PKNY is my favorite variation of a painkiller. Also it looks the coolest!
@SandstormGT
7 күн бұрын
I wonder if meeting somewhere in the middle would be good? 2oz pineapple juice, 2oz orange juice. Will give it a try tonight!
@BigHairyCrank
8 күн бұрын
Great video. I was never a fan of a PK. I'd rather skip the Oj and just have a pina colada. Or have a Pina Colada Royale....a regular pina colada with a 1/2 oz of Grand Marnier added.
@robertkeeler6211
8 күн бұрын
1)totally agree/concur with the Trademark BS 2) that said I enjoy both recipes with whatever rum I ultimately want to use.
@brianherman503
7 күн бұрын
This video made me so happy! Derek has a hot take!
@scrub175
8 күн бұрын
Thanks! Great controversial topic and presentation. Thank you for asking and answering the tough questions regarding this drink. It’s one of my go to drinks. I recently acquired a bottle of soggy dollar dark rum to try. Wonder what I’m gonna make? 😉
@scrub175
8 күн бұрын
I also signed up for your patreon, I’ve never used that before today. We’ll see how that works. Thank you for your efforts and high end productions.
@makeanddrink
7 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! I greatly appreciate it!
@NastasiFitness-mp8jj
8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! I was able to get to the Soggy Dollar by foot, need to crawl under a few fences 😊. They handed me a glass and a bottle of Pusser’s. You poured as much rum as you like and they made the drink!
@michaelleigh8394
7 күн бұрын
Man you have really stepped up your game the last few videos. Keep it up
@makeanddrink
7 күн бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Knothe1977
8 күн бұрын
Pain Killada is also good one! But I will try the Soggy Dollar version as well 😋
@jonathanlyons3491
8 күн бұрын
The best Painkiller is the one that washes the salt water out of your mouth after the swim in to the Soggy Dollar. BTW, many people take a dinghy in to the beach, so they don't swim.
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
But that ruins the whole soggy dollar story
@AustinH42
8 күн бұрын
My favorite drink by far i replace the orange juice with lime juice
@GeeWhizbang
7 күн бұрын
PREACH!
@sergisamongas
8 күн бұрын
It is hot today, and I live closer to ocean than you, I think.. but for the drink.. I don't like pussers because it gives me a headache, I put 1oz OFTD and 1oz demerara rum. Also, instead of OJ, I put .5oz lime juice.
@HeyBoz-04
8 күн бұрын
LOL...I can sure use some Painkiller after the meeting I just had.
@ultimatemaitai
8 күн бұрын
That's what they want you to believe.
@stephane.foisy.186
8 күн бұрын
Hmm been a while since I’ve had a painkiller. Found them too sweet but quite fun. Was serving them without booze for the younglings and they enjoyed them.
@_allcap
8 күн бұрын
I'll have to try the OG but doing a 50/50 mix of Jamaican rum and OFTD with the Pussers recipe has been my go to.
@MrWarwickbass
7 күн бұрын
I have a different recipe. 60ml Dark Rum, 45ml Pineapple juice, 15 Orange juice, 22,5ml Coco Lopez . Maybe more balanced?
@ApothecaryAlyth
8 күн бұрын
RIP, PKNY. I am 100% with you on the ethics of this cocktail and on how best to make one for home use. I was hoping for a bit more from the Cruzan Single Barrel when I made one with it a while back, but I still prefer it over Pusser's. I'm honestly not the biggest fan of Painkillers, but I thought the version in Tropical Standard was pretty damn good (big surprise there /s). "Who of has has not done that ourselves?" Lmao.
@brianhowerin329
8 күн бұрын
THE SHADE 😂
@ChrisSlack
8 күн бұрын
Nice job!
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@als.2983
8 күн бұрын
Great to see we are getting into Painkiller season. Interesting you went with more OJ (2oz) vs pineapple juice (1oz) in the "original". Most specs I have tried build with more pineapple than OJ. I will give the original a try.
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
The reasons are all outlines in the episode description. Was going off of best information out there and not my preference.
@codychavarria6088
2 күн бұрын
Pain killers are great
@mohrstephen
7 күн бұрын
I just had the original while listening to 'Painkiller' by Judas Priest.
@scotty_tiki-ohana
7 күн бұрын
I need to try the Soggy Bottom one.
@bagels8862
8 күн бұрын
PainKilla is our word
@JasonBunting
8 күн бұрын
Did Pusser's get exactly what they wanted - we keep talking about them, giving them attention? If so, brilliant
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
Not all press is good press if talking about them leads to people not buying their rums. I think they do well with the crowd that doesnt know the story. The ones that just buy into them as creating the Painkiller.
@JasonBunting
8 күн бұрын
@@makeanddrink would love to see you and Arminder doing one of your blind taste episodes with some Pusser's rum included in the lineup... Regardless, your videos are one of the only things I still come to KZitem for. Good work and thank you.
@SandstormGT
8 күн бұрын
If their goal was to get me to never buy their rum, they did a great job.
@stevencervantes9931
8 күн бұрын
Pain Killada by Distinguished Spirits is my go to PK. His Muerto Bali Hai is another you gotta try too
@jspacone
8 күн бұрын
Screw all the original and trademarked recipes. How about an Ultimate Painkiller recipe, with whichever rum that might be?
@durarara911
7 күн бұрын
Bro where do you get your shirts at? Pretty much all of them look amazing! Big fan of your videos too btw :D
@vindictivemage
7 күн бұрын
I would take Tradewinds over a Painkiller anytime
@jhcarrothers
5 күн бұрын
Love this episode! Also what size is your ice scoop?
@makeanddrink
5 күн бұрын
It's 1 cup
@TheBowerbird
8 күн бұрын
In before the PKNY from Tropical Standard 😅
@Coraxery
8 күн бұрын
Have to have powdered egg whites if you want an orange Julius taste, be interesting with an acid adjusted OJ version
@johnolmos8670
8 күн бұрын
What about acid adjusting to make it an actually balanced cocktail?
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
I've acid adjusted the "original" version I made here and didn't like it as much. Sometimes I'm cool with it not being "acid balanced." But I'll feature some soon that are acid adjusted.
@ryanhayden3465
6 күн бұрын
I’m debating to try this as a frozen drink, fresh pineapple instead of pineapple juice ? 1/4 xantham? Would love to know what you think
@chadsimpson7978
8 күн бұрын
How could you not do the PKNY from Tropical Standard in this video? 😂 Disappointing 😂
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
“Patience is the best remedy for every trouble.”
@Sea_Dog7
8 күн бұрын
Great episode. I have been a big fan of the Soggy Dollar for years. Last October we went to the Soggy Dollar to have their version which was made with their original Soggy Dollar Dark and then lunch next door at Hendo's Hideaway for the Original Pusser's version. I liked both but noted that the Soggy version was lighter and that I could drink those all day long where as the Pusser's version was deeper and more complex like you had noted. It definitely tasted a little more heavier. Here is my video of the trip and at 3:53 you can see them making the Painkiller at Soggy. kzitem.info/news/bejne/toprqougiXlqmmU Thanks for this video.
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Cool to see them making it. I had only seen a big batch being made, probably what they then are pouring into the milk cartons.
@davidrubio9002
8 күн бұрын
What would you do to improve it to your taste?
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
I like the original just fine and I tried acid adjusting it and still likes the original more
@chriscurley
8 күн бұрын
I didn't know that people had a strong preference against orange juice in cocktails. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that there is such a profound difference between fresh squeezed OJ and anything you can buy commercially? I'd imagine most followers of this channel are squeezing fresh, though.
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
The main argument against is that the flavor doesn't hold up so it mainly adds dilution as well as it's lack of acidity. Several of the prominent Tiki figures are OJ haters.
@chriscurley
8 күн бұрын
@@makeanddrink I guess I was just surprised because it’s in so many tiki recipes! (Esp in the total tiki app). Thanks for the info.
@markusfreund6961
8 күн бұрын
Hi, hope I'm not ruining anything this time around 😜Anyway, I just plain hate the guts of that Tobias guy. While I do have a bottle of Pusser's Navy Strength (strictly for educational purposes) I wouldn't dream of endorsing that kind of ethics any further. As for the drink and playing around with it: just call it a "Cane Pillar" and do whatever TF you please 🥂
@bdwilcox
5 күн бұрын
I'm trademarking "Make and Drink" in 3. 2. 1...
@makeanddrink
5 күн бұрын
👍
@silverpunk2427
8 күн бұрын
I love the Painkiller but I never use Pusser's. I'll use whatever I like. Screw their BS
@markpanlo15
8 күн бұрын
4 oz of Pineapple Juice is crazy...way too much. I always toned that down to like 1.5 oz Pineapple Juice
@mantunes339
8 күн бұрын
lol. went to high school with malcolm
@makeanddrink
8 күн бұрын
Tell him they should have trademarked it with lime.
@billbrydon3725
7 күн бұрын
The trademark only protects the consumer if they are buying a branded, manufactured product. There is nothing about a trademark that prevents a bar from adulterating a trademarked drink.
@makeanddrink
7 күн бұрын
The Painkiller bar saga kinda of proves otherwise. Likewise, if a bar or better yet a large chain restaurant advertised a Pinkiller or Dark N Stormy and stated they used another rum I would imagine they would have issues. No one is complaining or railing against these brands because we can’t make our own ready to drink canned Painkiller.
@chrisgeorge2717
7 күн бұрын
This video upset me a little. You came across a little different. Anyway, the og recipe blows. Way too much OJ. The Pussers version is the best, but I personally back out 1 ounce pineapple for 1 more ounce of coconut cream. Best one I've had in the Caribbean? St Maarten Yacht Club
@makeanddrink
7 күн бұрын
Well I’m not here to defend Pusser’s. And I greatly prefer the Soggy Dollar version I shared. I don’t think it blows.
@chrisgeorge2717
7 күн бұрын
@makeanddrink I guess I find it hard to believe. Nobody likes that much oj in their drink. I definitely prefer Pussers and always have it, just for this drink. It's ok, I'll still watch your channel 😄 as I think you do a great job. I really appreciate the Columbia. State Park thingy... I lived in Calaveras for a while. Cheers.
@makeanddrink
7 күн бұрын
@chrisgeorge2717 ok but serious questions… how is 2 oz of orange juice and 1 of pineapple so much worse than 4 oz of pineapple and 1 of OJ? This is what I don’t understand. Both fruit juices that lack acidity. Much more of it in the Pussers version.
@chrisgeorge2717
7 күн бұрын
@makeanddrink fair enough. I guess personally, I don't care for the oj that much at all. I'll squeeze a fresh 1 oz in, but again, I'm more about the cream of coconut. Why? I guess because I feel like in St Maarten, it was very rich and creamy. 4 oz of pineapple is probably too much too.. which is why I guess I reduce it and add more coconut.
@MartinDoudoroffLLC
8 күн бұрын
I will never buy Pusser’s again, and you shouldn’t, either.
@michaelepstein7172
8 күн бұрын
Great video! If you’re gonna do painkiller riffs, I would definitely recommend The Remedy from Existing Conditions. Punch has it on their website. It was one of my favorites to get before they closed.
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