This card was better than some PPVs... Definitely felt like a PPV 👏 Hope UFC comes back to London again this year
@danielmiller1462
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Dana told robbie fox their coming back in the later part of the year
@zachification1
2 жыл бұрын
Not some, but most of the PPVs
@mainstreammop2711
2 жыл бұрын
DANA SAID HES COMING BACK LADS. PARTYYYY
@mmamedia2834
2 жыл бұрын
Good card but they are gassing it up to boost up paddy
@Goatlinton
2 жыл бұрын
@@mmamedia2834 that literally makes no sense? How does all the other fighters having better performances which stole his limelight gas him up exactly?
@jamespritchard6058
2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best cards I’ve ever watched. As an American fan - the energy of UK fans is unmatched!
@MrMozzo
2 жыл бұрын
Bro.....uk loves warriors.....uk are warriors
@cloudburst6402
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMozzo bro, ufc hasnt been there in years. thats all it was bro
@slimbo689
2 жыл бұрын
@@cloudburst6402 That's all it was, ok buddy.
@thezenithupabove2531
2 жыл бұрын
We just love a party 🥳
@mrp9597
2 жыл бұрын
Nice one bro
@0414rohan
2 жыл бұрын
This Card was way better than the past 3 PPV. From prelims to main card everything delivered 🔥
@derpyderpy2923
2 жыл бұрын
Nah 272 main card was pretty entertaining
@user-uc7qb1su4e
2 жыл бұрын
@@derpyderpy2923 nah this was better by far
@stn7172
2 жыл бұрын
No way lol
@snip2615
2 жыл бұрын
@@derpyderpy2923 ciryl gane fight is good as well
@tsunax1400
2 жыл бұрын
Nah no way. 270 had Ngannou beating Gane with wrestling while in the middle of a contract dispute, slandered by his coach, and with a shredded knee, Moreno vs Figgy 3, Said with that slick submission, 271 with Izzy vs Rob 2, Tuivasa's sick KO of Lewis, Cannonier's cold murder of Brunson, Moicano subbing Hernandez, 272 with Covington vs Masvidal, Bryce doing his thing, Holland doing his thing, Hardy getting KO'd, and those were just some of many. It was a great fight night and it felt like a ppv because of all the energy but it wasn't any better than the ones that just passed
@kanelfc98
2 жыл бұрын
Should have been a numbered event with a title match, was absolutely incredible
@thanosbustedinyourmum
2 жыл бұрын
No
@rumchata6569
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think they can do those because of the time zone difference
@scrollux5182
2 жыл бұрын
@@rumchata6569 well they fought at Abu Dhabi like 6 months ago for UFC 267 i think
@billhawkins192
2 жыл бұрын
Next time...
@fatshady6471
2 жыл бұрын
Shame there was no title fight, that card deserved a title fight. Every fight had something about it.
@jayzerino
2 жыл бұрын
Dana pretending to forget what Mollie said to him even though we all know he didn't understand a word she said to him 😂
@carter3369
2 жыл бұрын
I live about two hours from her hometown and even I have no idea what she said lol
@jahedm3
2 жыл бұрын
@@carter3369 I was born and raised in London and didn't understand a single word she said on that mic 🤣🤣
@mcspiffington
2 жыл бұрын
@@jahedm3 She aint from London chief
@HamedAdefuwa
2 жыл бұрын
@@mcspiffington that's his point lol none of us from outside Merseyside understood her
@mattthompson3714
2 жыл бұрын
@@HamedAdefuwa I'm from a part of Merseyside and I struggle with scouse at times
@floridamarkandreim.4945
2 жыл бұрын
England one of the best crowds with a night full of finishes. WHAT A NIGHT!!
@Asiyah2000
2 жыл бұрын
Top to bottom the card was nightmare 👊🏼
@ItsameAlex
2 жыл бұрын
they bring that football/soccer energy
@CharlieL292
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsameAlex it was so foggy tho. Lucky anyone made it to the arena
@JetConvoy
2 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps the best card I’ve seen in years. Better than most PPVs.
@mmamedia2834
2 жыл бұрын
This was dead
@speakingfacts3931
2 жыл бұрын
there’s so many cards better than this one in recent years
@thrk6952
2 жыл бұрын
@@mmamedia2834 cheer up mate
@mmamedia2834
2 жыл бұрын
@@thrk6952 😂
@ravivaghmaria3913
2 жыл бұрын
Insane crowd. I was glad to be in it. It was truly electric from the Fight Pass Prelims all the way to the Main Event and also on the travel back with the chants 🔥🙌🔥🙌
@mohammedmashud4621
2 жыл бұрын
how difficult was it getting tickets?
@MrUler12
2 жыл бұрын
ohhh paddy the baaddy
@ravivaghmaria3913
2 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedmashud4621 extremely difficult
@ismaieladen4814
2 жыл бұрын
This was the best UFC fight night of the year... I don’t know what card can top it 🙌
@inhibitor2858
2 жыл бұрын
Just waiting for Yan to KO Sterling with a legal knee. That’d do it for me. 😂
@Mcfc2Rich
2 жыл бұрын
@@inhibitor2858 Sterling further solidifies fact that he's a fake champ lol
@fudgetable1
2 жыл бұрын
Best fight night in 3 years*
@chrishaswell4405
2 жыл бұрын
That's maybe the best fight night ever maybe recency bias and being from the UK but my god the energy was unbelievable
@jimmynesbit1803
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishaswell4405 reminded me of the Connor free fight nights before he got the title especially the crowd reaction of paddy
@jayzerino
2 жыл бұрын
The UK came through on this one, Mollie with another bonus surely !!!
@dylanbarter545
2 жыл бұрын
He's Irish though, not from the UK
@N182-k3f
2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanbarter545 no one on the card was irish
@glenmcgough9458
2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanbarter545 molly is from liverpool
@samnicholson794
2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanbarter545 its a she also
@mmamedia2834
2 жыл бұрын
Mollie is serious. Paddy is not
@charles-antoinecote7177
2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the UK crowd u guys are legend
@Aisatsana1971
2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@WW-sj7zk
2 жыл бұрын
Been listening to Dana’s voice starting to go out on him the last few days… another big big night ! Congrats UFC # Dana White… get some rest man. 👊
@rabtaylor3871
2 жыл бұрын
UFC in England, Scotland or Ireland at a football stadium or large venue would be a guaranteed sellout easily 40 or 50 thousand depending on the stadium, with a fantastic atmosphere. I can't understand why it's not been done yet and instead most of the big fight cards are in America or Dubai who don't have a clue about passion or an atmosphere
@fhjjgttyhh4762
2 жыл бұрын
How people gunna see the fight that far away
@ethancoffey3491
2 жыл бұрын
Stadiums aren’t always the ideal venue for ufc style events. If a British ufc fighter gets a title shot then that could warrant it
@oulangkous718
2 жыл бұрын
it's different cultures dude, doesn't mean there's no passion. the UAE crowd r very respectful and cheer for the winner and loser and celebrate with feasting on food after. US crowds can get pretty wild too depending on which state & seem to prefer having watch parties at home. UK fans r more into gathering since the football/pub culture is so big there.
@taffyducks544
2 жыл бұрын
And Wales!!! They have a national stadium with a retractable roof. Considered to be best within the sport of Rugby.
@mattsavage9960
2 жыл бұрын
@@taffyducks544 I agree I'm from Cornwall and id say anywhere in Britain and Ireland the atmosphere will always be the loudest. The last good atmosphere I remember in America was the gaethje v chandler fight but even that wasn't as loud as tonight.
@tom-fp2fv
2 жыл бұрын
Yes uncle fester 👌 great words for the U.K. fans and fight scene.
@JamesG12
2 жыл бұрын
Crowd was insane
@italpeel
2 жыл бұрын
It's very rare I can force myself to watch all the prelims and then to back it up with all those stellar main card fights. This event was by far the best I've seen in ages
@youknow4878
2 жыл бұрын
Was there tonight, unreal atmosphere and amazing fights, we need a PPV in the uk
@chadspro
2 жыл бұрын
London crowds never disappoint
@Napoleonicwarfare
2 жыл бұрын
People come there from all over UK half of them probably from Liverpool in there
@Napoleonicwarfare
2 жыл бұрын
@WatchEuropaTheLastBattle Easy
@MrMozzo
2 жыл бұрын
Haha...bro its all the north....London is a pussyfest
@Azoria4
2 жыл бұрын
It’s northern crowd not london
@lucadevittoris4804
2 жыл бұрын
@WatchEuropaTheLastBattle loads there from Liverpool, loads from Wigan, me and my mates came from Bradford. Quite a few lads from Scotland as well. Mostly a northern crowd.
@jaffa1344
2 жыл бұрын
This was such an amazing night! .. UFC's best night for a very long time ... everyone performed ... hats off to them all.
@deanbrosche
2 жыл бұрын
this card was absolutely insane. hard to overdeliver considering the matchups but damn it sure overdelivered. insane fights this really was special to watch live.
@sonicboom20078
2 жыл бұрын
I'd much rather pay $5 for this than pay $80 for most PPV events that's for sure 🤣
@Kiran-ye7ix
2 жыл бұрын
This was the first UFC event I watched with friends and now they love MMA more than any other sport. Such a great night!
@jameskift2882
2 жыл бұрын
When paddy the baddy fought In his ufc debut my friend came over this was his first mma match he watched he also a places bets on other sports football basketball tennis etc but never boxing or mma and I said put a large bet on paddy to sub him out so he did and paddy almost got knocked out xD but when paddy knocked his opponent out we was screaming so load I think we woke the hole building
@lucadevittoris4804
2 жыл бұрын
Watched it live. My second UFC after I went to Liverpool few years ago. The crowd was unbelievable, the card was unbelievable and the future of British MMA is in great hands.
@jamespartridge7481
2 жыл бұрын
Great nights for UK fighter's 🇬🇧 👌
@omaradnan8574
2 жыл бұрын
Incredible fights from top to bottom
@nickgeeson2288
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a UFC London... Edwards, Till, Aspinall, Paddy, Mollie. The perfect card. Heavyweight, middleweight, welterweight, lightweight, womens scrap... literally the perfect oversea's event. Ideal scenario is one of them is either challenging for, or defending the title.
@ayybee5735
2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@djhotdawg8435
2 жыл бұрын
Can we get Arnold Allen on that card and toss in paul craig just cause
@blanketyblank9827
2 жыл бұрын
Remove the snooze fest Edward's
@tomthetit2419
2 жыл бұрын
“Get me a towel.”
@tianzuwu2091
2 жыл бұрын
@@djhotdawg8435 no butter tooth brit is going to sniff a belt again
@NoobsRUsNation
2 жыл бұрын
Dana's actually just mad because he realized this was ppv quality used on a fight night instead
@nickkelly3199
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he realized he could have added 1 title fight and gotten at least 500k ppv buys
@LJ-MMA
2 жыл бұрын
The money from a ppv is shortsighted compared to the amount attention and growth of the sport and ufc in long run, from such an amazing event with so many viral moments
@disobeytoday4685
2 жыл бұрын
@@LJ-MMA This is true. He's brining UFC back to London this year. If its free - I'll watch the whole 6 hours. If its PPV, I'll watch it on KZitem 3 days later
@MrTerryparker
2 жыл бұрын
As a UK fight fan this card was pure 🔥 the energy from the crowd was electric
@lovejesus7775
2 жыл бұрын
i love the direction UFC is headed. Fastest growing sport. I don’t even watch nba and nfl anymore unless it’s playoffs. Ufc>
@leopardus4712
2 жыл бұрын
It felt like a PPV
@lScottsy
2 жыл бұрын
Wish Ian Garry had fought in this card, considering Till and Edwards weren’t on the card either just shows how slept on the UK talent is
@tommymaher4166
2 жыл бұрын
Ian garry is irish but I agree would have been a good fight. The entire card could have been on the main card tonight
@selfesteem1942
2 жыл бұрын
@@tommymaher4166 Yeah but there is a big Irish-british community in the UK and lot of Irish in London especially, plus its not far to travel. I think it would have added to the atmosphere even more.
@tommymaher4166
2 жыл бұрын
@@selfesteem1942 definitely agree I was just clarifying that Ian garry was irish
@axel_adams4988
2 жыл бұрын
Dana sounds like he’s been eating his cigars instead of smoking them
@MotorsportThrottle
2 жыл бұрын
This card was on the levels of a top PPV! The crowd was so hype too
@elontusk9898
2 жыл бұрын
Way better than ufc 272.
@caveman8557
2 жыл бұрын
1st round finish for Tom 1st round finish for Paddy 1st round finish for Arnold allen 1st round finish for Mokaev 1st round finish for Paul Craig What a night for British MMA 🙌
@tomas1564
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Paul Craig as well
@AJ-ng6bq
2 жыл бұрын
Paul Craig too!!
@caveman8557
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomas1564 yeah mate that too
@brewingfarts
2 жыл бұрын
3rd round spinning elbow for meatball too
@Hester-l6k
2 жыл бұрын
People really sleeping on 16-0 undefeated Jack Shore huh
@ulfricstormcloak4230
2 жыл бұрын
They need to do a card in Liverpool anfield stadium with Till, paddy , molly, aspinal Or a card in Ireland’s national stadium with McGregor v Diaz 3, paddy , molly, aspinal on the undercard
@NotMe-el3hg
2 жыл бұрын
Think the time has passed on McGregor fighting in croke park, should have been done a few years ago. Don’t think Dana would do it anyhow due to time zone anyhow, also the logistics around having it in croke park, weather time etc. Probably would be same with any attempt to have a UK ppv
@user-dl8mq8lx9z
2 жыл бұрын
UFC will probably never do an event at an open roof stadium. If it rains the event would have to be stopped/cancelled. Can't have water all over the octagon lol
@nm5612
2 жыл бұрын
The money is from PPV not gates.
@finnmarr-heenan2397
2 жыл бұрын
“ if it rains” it’s Ireland of course it’s raining
@bhenchordsingh5028
2 жыл бұрын
F mcgreggor no one cares about him his a nobody
@Joe-id8bd
2 жыл бұрын
Tom Aspinall may be the next heavyweight champion.
@userjim83
2 жыл бұрын
Say it quietly but he might be the greatest HW of all time one day too, elite hand speed, amazing fight IQ, top tier jujitsu.
@ehwhynot7631
2 жыл бұрын
@@userjim83 no one will ever come close to Jon Jones
@slinergumble3593
2 жыл бұрын
@@ehwhynot7631 he was never a heavyweight lol
@userjim83
2 жыл бұрын
@@ehwhynot7631 That famous heavyweight Jon Jones 😂🤦🏻♂️
@vhyles
2 жыл бұрын
Aspinall vs Cyril seems to be the fight to make 🔥🔥
@r33z35
2 жыл бұрын
The Scotsman Craig deserves a title shot for the UFC light heavyweight championship. That geezer is gangsta!
@Hard4History
2 жыл бұрын
I love Paul Craig, but I don’t think he can get anywhere near challenging Jan or Jiri, even Ankalaev is a different beast now to when Craig beat him
@benjamminsax6584
2 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with the interviewer! Clear with questions and has a wealth of knowledge about the UFC.
@yogadaddyjeff
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I was thinking she needs more work- she’s v good!
@ossnips9329
2 жыл бұрын
That was one of the best UFC events in a long time. Excitement throughout the card
@cegan2
2 жыл бұрын
DANA looks in rough shape.... Protect this man at all costs!
@mark123469
2 жыл бұрын
Not too often Dana is lost for words, well done UK a night that will be remembered for a long long time.
@dishype2068
2 жыл бұрын
I had a blast tonight, amazing! Doubt it's any lower than any other numbered card.
@gazb87yorkshiresalt48
2 жыл бұрын
The Don hath spoken!
@thenoisyneighbour
2 жыл бұрын
UK Crowd deserve a title fight.
@danielcunningham7631
2 жыл бұрын
Dana’s voice 😂😂😂
@willycooke3325
2 жыл бұрын
Yh what’s wrong with it atm ?
@joeskill4663
2 жыл бұрын
Probably lost his voice in excitement over the fights..😄
@scranmaandscrandad2115
2 жыл бұрын
I reckon the crowd was that loud Dana had to shout to everyone he spoke to and then all of the crazy knockouts on top of that
@sanatsrivastava2814
2 жыл бұрын
This was the best card in Fight Night history. What a fantastic set of bouts. After UFC 272 (even though 272's build up was unmatched), this is the best card of the year.
@Dansince91
2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal card! Literally highlight reel performances from each winner.
@Smyth92
2 жыл бұрын
Every time i see Caroline I can’t help but think of Brandi Love…
@willycooke3325
2 жыл бұрын
😅😅
@paule6945
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on........😜😂
@dans1454
2 жыл бұрын
Every single time
@Fluffyolphert
2 жыл бұрын
Incredible card... UFC needs to come to the UK more often
@tyrelltyler1430
2 жыл бұрын
💪🏽Tom is the R.E.A.L deal💪🏽
@MalleusIudaeorum
2 жыл бұрын
Champ in 2023
@alanhaine644
2 жыл бұрын
This was the first UFC event I’ve been to, what an experience and incredible set of fights!
@scranmaandscrandad2115
2 жыл бұрын
Im definitely going to the next UK event whenever it will be, hopefully this year. The energy was unmatched
@AA-wv1pr
2 жыл бұрын
Same was amazing
@myles2clean71
2 жыл бұрын
Second that my first won’t be my last atmosphere we unreal
@reece1341
2 жыл бұрын
Dana doesn’t sound too well, hope he’s all good. What a guy
@Anticommunism99
2 жыл бұрын
he should stop screaming during matches
@ETAisNOW
2 жыл бұрын
@@Anticommunism99 I wish he miced up like a commentator
@mickhahayeah
2 жыл бұрын
@@Anticommunism99 he should stop doing so much blow
@genericwhitemale5616
2 жыл бұрын
@@mickhahayeah lol
@mikok21ify
2 жыл бұрын
@@mickhahayeah 🤣
@matthewley1371
2 жыл бұрын
As a UFC fan that has no friends or family that like UFC I was very proud of how it all went down and my mates were blown away
@fatshady6471
2 жыл бұрын
Best card in a long while.... Meatballs knockout was sensational. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@paule6945
2 жыл бұрын
"Brandi Love" interviewing Dana white..........quality 😂😂😂
@NatureNick108
2 жыл бұрын
Not forgetting Jack Tack Shore and Paul Craig. Both were also awesome. UK fighters 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧 really done us proud. I even thought Jai Herbert fought well until he was put to sleep. Topuria is a beast
@alf8151
2 жыл бұрын
The UK has a special kind of energy when i comes to sports, lots of camaraderie.
@Tsur.hassan
2 жыл бұрын
This card produced probably the best knockout in ufc womens history 👏 The energy was amazing it was electric 🙌 I was on my feet for the whole main card
@boizuela2324
2 жыл бұрын
this fight night literally made me fall back in love with mma and UFC
@FantasySportsZen
2 жыл бұрын
What other commissioner in any sport would have to do a post-event interview after losing their voice from screaming? Haha. Love Dana. Great card.
@djopulence
2 жыл бұрын
this card was absolutely awesome!! UFC LONDON!!!!
@mike_MT_jonez
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic fight card! 🇬🇧, Ko’s, submission’s, well done.
@user-ys7eg8ev7f
2 жыл бұрын
Best fight night of all time will always be mcgregor in Dublin. Can’t get more iconic than that with hindsight
@nonoahhh
2 жыл бұрын
UK fight fans , well done Great card !
@ejoshcoron
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving us a great show UK!
@rymtotheprime11
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Leon vs Usman in London, please make it happen
@rhysbuckley3147
2 жыл бұрын
It did indeed feel like one of the biggest events i've watched in years!
@422Krazy
2 жыл бұрын
Fight night or not this was a top 20 UFC event ever. Prelims-Maincard 🔥🔥
@ObadiYah
2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome night glad to be there 🇬🇧
@MmaRicky
2 жыл бұрын
London showed up, they need to seriously do a card in Liverpool that would be nuts with the scouser fighters
@sharingiscaring1952
2 жыл бұрын
That would be good. But might get a bit messy
@charles-antoinecote7177
2 жыл бұрын
This should be a tradition. The same lineup every year in London. Make it happen Dana
@DocScott31
2 жыл бұрын
Damn give Dana some honey to drink.
@electricleeds8613
2 жыл бұрын
If till would’ve just performed what he was capable of doing Liverpool would’ve really been taking over the ufc. Small city but produce some of the greatest talents worldwide
@lpl1781
2 жыл бұрын
Till overrated Paddy is gomna get dropped by a decent fighter A like molly but never be champion Thats abar it
@nickm4083
2 жыл бұрын
Why she cut it so short?
@laurbster2680
2 жыл бұрын
aspinall looks great. but fortunes can change with one punch at heavyweight. hope he continues to win
@ultimatetrickzter505
2 жыл бұрын
UK is where it’s at, whenever it comes over here we put on a show.
@bacup27
2 жыл бұрын
every single fight delivered what an amazing evening of fights
@hughesyplays
2 жыл бұрын
All about Aspinall 🔥🔥🔥
@happywednesday6741
2 жыл бұрын
It's the biggest Fight Night tonight, in UFC history tonight
@blood_upon_the_rose
2 жыл бұрын
The best ufc I've seen in a good while ! Great fights 👏
@SacTownMatt916
2 жыл бұрын
"Couldn't have written a better script" lol
@ben9262
2 жыл бұрын
I heard that too 😂
@sam_s_
2 жыл бұрын
Tom and Tai makes sense from the perspective of competition, but it will derail two rising stars. It wod be best to keep them away from eachother so they can both get to the top.
@jjjk24
2 жыл бұрын
This card delivered. Till and Khamzat should be on the next one in London.(Not fighting each other)
@ShubhamSingh-dv6nb
2 жыл бұрын
Covington v Woodley was the most stacked Fight Night. This was a great card tho.
@viraltube3973
2 жыл бұрын
Best card for years , atmosphere was insane
@Fony_turgeson
2 жыл бұрын
this card overall finishes fights comebacks ilia allen then aspinall is a beasttttt
@Steez0099
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely an amazing card top to bottom, I think I speak for us all when I say I can’t wait for another London card !
@eedeatlikkle3652
2 жыл бұрын
Bring a numbered proper ufc event to London. I wish ufc 273 was in London
@semlapa9864
2 жыл бұрын
Dana looks so happy wonder what he'll do after a great fight night celebration 🎉
@scarface7uk7
2 жыл бұрын
👃 ☁️
@sonyemerson6675
2 жыл бұрын
I love English Laura Sanko
@thew1ldone889
2 жыл бұрын
They both got manly jaws, come to your own conclusion.
@JimmyDanger44
2 жыл бұрын
Goes to show why these international cards are so special, it makes what is already a stacked night into a huge event
@Tsur.hassan
2 жыл бұрын
The fights were amazing especially for me and other European fans We didn't have to wake up at 4 to watch the main card
@selectacharacterfilms
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing will ever beat a Uk fight night! The atmosphere is crazy.
@XO_2011
2 жыл бұрын
What a card!!!
@samjg101
2 жыл бұрын
The UFC needs more nights in the UK. Our fans are unmatched in atmosphere… great card felt like a ppv
@mpforeverunlimited
2 жыл бұрын
The next UK card should have Usman vs Edwards as the main event and Aspinall vs Tuivasa as the co main. And stick all the winners tonight back on there. Paddy, Molly, Allen etc. Would make a good card I think. They could probably sell out a bigger stadium.
@watchmyhead
2 жыл бұрын
It was the UFC 272 we deserved.
@ajohnson5451
2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't she ask about UFC Glasgow? Craig mentioned it in his post fight interview.
@KrusssH
2 жыл бұрын
Topuria comeback and KO was insane
@Sebpz8342
2 жыл бұрын
They should have 2 fight nights a year in London! Maybe one in October
@MalleusIudaeorum
2 жыл бұрын
One in London and one up north in Manchester/Liverpool/Newcastle/Leeds etc. Northern crowds would be even crazier.
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