Hey All, Here is my Review And Theory Video for *Episode 11 of The 100's Final Season* Let me know what you thought of the episode and what you think was going on with Bellamy all the way through!!!
@TWDCOMICSTV
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@aliengranpa
4 жыл бұрын
I think the bug Bellamy ate caused him to hallucinate, lick licking a toad. All the really trippy stuff happened after he ate that bug off the wall.
@anshumanrevedup2929
4 жыл бұрын
How many total episodes will be there this season????
@elvisibra
4 жыл бұрын
@@anshumanrevedup2929 16
@anshumanrevedup2929
4 жыл бұрын
@@elvisibra thanks
@blowfly3000
4 жыл бұрын
When a person is at their lowest point, they will accept anything.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@taefiedcontents
4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Kamina1
4 жыл бұрын
He literally was not at his lowest point though lol
@Kamina1
4 жыл бұрын
@David Stairs Because i watch the show? Lol Bellamy has been through much lower points in his life. This was not his lowest point. Not even close. You act as if he found out Octavia, Echo, and Clarke were all dead lol he was cold on a mountain....
@blowfly3000
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kamina1 Bellamy went from believing in what he could prove in the beginning. Through the journey & the vision of his mother, believing and praying to Bill Cadogen as his shepherd. During the journey to the top of the mountain where the space stone was he was at a very low point to kowtow to Bill. That's how brain washing works.
@Jayden-fg8on
4 жыл бұрын
Plus in Bellamy’s “vision” Bill is in his bardo uniform which I thought was weird because Bellamy never saw or knew him like that
@nicoleackerman205
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he was in normal clothes when Jaha showed Bellamy a video of him talking.
@orange5423
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Has to be that he was at that point in a simulation
@PaulBrown-uj5le
4 жыл бұрын
Brainwashing at it's best.
@NotDurk
4 жыл бұрын
His brain might have just puzzled different pieces together to create a possible version of what he’d look like now tho.
@ccricers
4 жыл бұрын
Conductor was with Bellamy in the same Bardo uniform so I think Bellamy projected the vision through that.
@MrOnionRing
4 жыл бұрын
when he thanked pike for his survival skills, it brought back memories of him siding with the villian and going against his friends. Bellamy cannot be trusted he is so weak minded.
@PaulBrown-uj5le
4 жыл бұрын
Omfg you get that too, I can't believe it lol, I got that exact same feeling, we must be soul brothers lol.
@passion4pets513
4 жыл бұрын
He not mind weak .the reason is cause of what he went though the mountain almost frozen to death ate bugs went some night without eating for a long time trauma is one way of brainwash someone
@lilatolouian
4 жыл бұрын
Bellamy grew from that experience with Pike, he was still a young YOUNG adult who had gone through the trauma of mr weather and he had demons that he TRULY grew from while they were in the sky for 6 years. I don’t think his mind is that fragile. He was pretty strong to uncover Clarke being alive still and getting her to Gabriel. He was strong in character when he didn’t murder any of the primes and accepted that there was another way. Even Octavia forgave Pike after coming out of the anomaly, and she changed from the inside, and stopped being all Red-Queeny 😬. Just my opinion though. I need to rewatch this season again. ❤️
@m.c.martin
4 жыл бұрын
Lila T Forgave Bellamy* Octavia straight up merked Pike in Polis
@lilatolouian
4 жыл бұрын
@@m.c.martin No when Octavia comes out of the anomaly at first, last season, Gabriel gives her some hallucinogen, and she enters her mind to battle her demons/guilt/regrets/trauma, and Pike appears to her, and she also sees her former self as red queen, and then she saves Pike's life (in her hallucination) from her own Red self. To me, that was her letting go of the resentment she carried ever since Lincoln (I still cry thinking about Lincoln) So that is what I meant by she forgave Pike...
@Jayden-fg8on
4 жыл бұрын
I can wait to rewatch this season when it ends to watch all the pieces come together
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Doing the same when it is over.
@woodworkingandepoxy643
4 жыл бұрын
You can pretty much just watch the last 3 episodes to do that
@livmarie4321
4 жыл бұрын
No y won’t I cried so much on episode 13😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@stargirl4120
4 жыл бұрын
Speakjng of the flame... From Becca/Callie we know that the flame will save and protect itself by crawling out of fire as well as swimming out of water when the host is dead or something like that. So could there be a possibility that the flame saved itself from being destroyed by backing up its content onto Madi and that's the reason she's having and drawing the memories of the commanders. Could Madi literally be the flame/key without even knowing it?
@FaireyQueen
4 жыл бұрын
That's a really good theory. And it also would bring the rest of Wonkru and Madi to Bardo.
@stargirl4120
4 жыл бұрын
@@FaireyQueen It is the only theory I could think of at this point. It could be Sheidheda but I dont think its him. Becca said she created the flame to amplify what's already there. She believed that in the right mind it can do a lot of good so I think that if the flame wanted to protect itself from being destroyed Madi would be the one that it chooses and not Sheidheda. I just hope the two storylines connect soon
@pamelawherey4583
4 жыл бұрын
Star Girl Didn't Gaia bury the box with one flame inside of it, at Clarks' Mothers grave??
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I think they would have realized it was not destroyed after pulling it out of Madi. Besides with its destruction Sheiheda escaped into the system leading to him being in Russel now. If you think about it, the memories might have survived and all others did the same escaping the flame before destruction. Technically anything can be destroyed, it is a matter of it can't be easily destroyed that's all.
@skaarlet1449
4 жыл бұрын
By default, by this theory, couldn't that possibly mean that Russel/Sheidheda is the flame now? Because technically, he's the only one showing outward signs of any of the Commander(s) still existing.
@marlonhunt4327
4 жыл бұрын
What you were missing was when Bellamy came the shepherd welcome him with open arms. As if he already knew that Bellamy was changed. I believe the island was real but it was set up to get people to believe in the shepherd. The light in the cave is somehow related to a power source that is responsible for the weather, hologram and simulation. Even the portal back was a test. It's about having faith in the shepherd that allows you to jump which is the final test
@hydrofuturaa
4 жыл бұрын
of course the instructions were in the little pocket bible....hahahah
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
And as if he was waiting, knowing he would come at this exact point in time.
@tomharrington4532
4 жыл бұрын
The main reason why I think it was a Simulation was that he didn't lose his memory. If he didn't lose it going to Etherea, then he would definitely lose it on the way back.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, that is what I used as definitive proof on the video.
@swearimnotarobot3746
4 жыл бұрын
I guess there is a possibility that they both move at the same speed but I don’t think they would ignore the time dialation for just one planet
@kaystevenson2075
4 жыл бұрын
Remember you only lose your memory when jumping to a slower time dilated planet if Echo Octavia and the diyozas were there on Bardo for about the same time as Bellamy was here meaning the times are the same
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
It is kind of difficult for them to be the same
@tomharrington4532
4 жыл бұрын
@@kaystevenson2075 Yeah but if he didn't lose his memory jumping to Etherea then it's a faster planet. But if he then went from Etherea to Bardo, it is travelling to a slower planet.
@LovelyGamer115
4 жыл бұрын
I think it was planned because Anders would have had to consciously know he was typing the code to Etherea and not Sanctum-even though he was supposedly supposed to enter the sanctum code
@kgal1298
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, too many inconsistencies to make this have been done purposely. I think what we're going to see though is them going back to Sanctum to get the broken mind drive to try to fix it to use here, but in doing so Sheiheda will end up killing them and then as a last-ditch we're probably going to see Clarke enter the code in a symbolic move of her pulling the lever. Though now all we're missing Gaia like where is she? Is she where Becca was?
@macberry4048
4 жыл бұрын
Etherea does seem like it's designed to give people a religious experience. He passes out and he wakes up in a big cave with a picture that's from more than three centuries ago and he finds glowing statues and after one prayer the snow melts and it's sunny
@PavolNemec-l4v
4 жыл бұрын
thats what i thought
@baskuijpers2005
4 жыл бұрын
Kate I think she died, they destroyed the portal with a code (we saw a stone being offline already) I don’t think she would be there because it would be a few seconds and I tought we saw the stone fall down on the ground wich didn’t happen with Becca
@jashai5517
4 жыл бұрын
Bas Kuijpers who is the she you refer to?
@stevescott1454
4 жыл бұрын
Some additional information that adds to your theory. The conductor's name was Doucette. This is French for: Who is of a very sweet character, or who simulates the sweet. And, let's not forget, a conductor, by definition, controls the performance. So, yeah, I think you are right. If not, the writers are going down a weird religious hole - and I'm not onboard with that.
@spoonietimelordy
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and doucette isn't a word we ever use, and it's not a common name either, so they had to search for it.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I did not catch the name, that is why I decided to call him conductor all the way through, thanks though for the info. very informative.
@AKAG77MI_CODM
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek But what really comes to mind, is the scene of Levitt saying that Bellamy is alive! that was for us to know that there's no simulation at all. And it was etherea all along, Also, the tech bardo has fits more the bardoans that the disceples. WHICH COULD MEAN THAT BILL HAS THE BARDOANS AS PRISONERS SOMEWHERE IN SECRET.. i mean we all know his past and what he's capable of! and something interesting 'How the hell did Bill and his followers translate the language of the bardoans without having one of them.. My head is too spinning from theories lol.
@angi4126
4 жыл бұрын
"when we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change"
@swearimnotarobot3746
4 жыл бұрын
Is that from the legend of korra?
@umar8leo
4 жыл бұрын
Avatar aang ❤️
@angi4126
4 жыл бұрын
Diarmuid Biggane yep
@Kamina1
4 жыл бұрын
❤ Avatar/Korra has so many great quotes.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Great point, now I need to watch Legend of Korra :P
@shibRpk
4 жыл бұрын
Cant believe he just straight up snitch lmao
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Indoctrinated, they succeeded in doing to him what they failed to do with the others.
@KShogukiTV
4 жыл бұрын
I think it's all part of the plan. We need to keep watching to figure out the puzzle pieces for this last season. Jason did say all will be revealed by the series finale.
@kaystevenson2075
4 жыл бұрын
I do think he is actually brainwashed to the Shepherd’s bidding but the Bellamy we know and love is still buried down deep inside there no one is ever too far gone. Why I think he is brainwashed is because they won’t repeat what they did with Echo and the rest of them too repetitive. It seems this betrayal will leave huge affects on all of our characters more specifically Octavia, Echo, and Clarke
@PaulBrown-uj5le
4 жыл бұрын
I read the synopsis for next week and it says they're all back in sanctum.
@kgal1298
4 жыл бұрын
I can because it'll probably lead them all going to Sanctum then, it's a good plot device to bring the stories back together.
@trusttheprocess6978
4 жыл бұрын
The next few episodes are either gonna make us all go wow and be the best from the entire show. Or the other extreme and they just piss us off. No inbetweens.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Or it will split us in two groups, lovers and haters. Remember LOST, there were three groups actually, the lovers of the final and the finale season (ME), the haters, the haters who misunderstood the entire show (The majority), not going to spoil the misunderstanding here though unless you have watched it.
@lilatolouian
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek OMG I'm also an ABSOLUTE LOVER of LOST and the final season, and the finale.Have you watched 12 monkeys the series? It's a complete 4 season series that was loosely based on the film, but absolutely, unbelievably AMAZING. Lost was my number one favorite series of all time, but since 12 monkeys, they are both super high as top faves, but 12 monkeys has a more generally LOVED ending by anyone who's watched it. I highly recommend that one to you!
@Antonio-rg1cy
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek for me lost was bad ending ....i hope The 100 wont have the same bad ending :D
@HorseloverFat1984
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek It's so good to see that there are at least a few people who understand and appreciate the Lost finale. It was absolutely amazing.
@evafleury5538
4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting that "Game of Thrones I effing hate the final season that made no effing sense" kind of feeling here...
@astroboy102
4 жыл бұрын
I think Belamy is genuinely brain washed, though when he sees Clarke in the m-cap machine, he sees her radio calls to him when they were on the ring. She probably confesses her love to him which brings the whole Belarke theory to a loop. Either that or Belamy realises everything they have been through and snaps out of it and just plays them all. In the preview you can see Belamy in the room while Clarke is in the machine, he didn't have to be there but he is. I feel like this is what snaps him out of it
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I sure hope there is nothing about a Clarke Bellamy love ship, in all cases or otherwise I am gonna be hating these writers forever.
@sophiakovalcik8765
4 жыл бұрын
My theory is Bellamy is going to hear the radio calls and realize he loves Clarke and turn it all around
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I sure hope he does not realize "He Loves Clarke" For me that is the worst thing that could happen, like would make it into typical CW young adult fan service garbage to be honest. I should not be the one preaching this considering women are usually the ones preaching it and yet going around and forcing a ship on every series, but men and women are capable of being strong friends without ending up in bed.
@fanrocm9423
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek true
@flobodeluxe3531
4 жыл бұрын
@Josh Adams if it is true there is no sexism involved here ... i dont know why everyone has to think like someone ment something this or that way just to say "hey you offended someone"
@feltsondramione9624
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek forced???🤣 literally bellamy and clarke could be everything but not forced!!!!! Lmao!!!😂
@feltsondramione9624
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek bellamy and echo are the most forced ship in the universe.... 🤣🤣
@pistonheartedventures
4 жыл бұрын
This season is really hitting my nerve
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Elaborate.
@saint2972
4 жыл бұрын
Gaia!
@sophiawilson8696
4 жыл бұрын
Hey it the last. I think season 4 was last good one.
@sly3186
4 жыл бұрын
Why the hell did Clarke have to whisper in his ear when the Shepard was right there "They think I have the flame" wtf! Couldn't you wait till you where alone.. Really thats the first thought in her head!
@edinsonmencias5506
4 жыл бұрын
I said the same😤
@ronkali5365
4 жыл бұрын
That is Clarke for you, just like jumping into this planet without any kind of supplies
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I am not the biggest defender of stupid actions, but, the shepherd wants to talk to this guy, she could not have imagined he was brainwashed, she gives Bellamy a warning so he would not slip and tell the truth about the flame not even existing anymore, or at least not being in Clarke.
@cloudydaze2542
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek but they were jus about to giv them time to talk befor then he didnt kno the Key was the flame. All he knew is Clark had some key. she the one told him key means flame
@evafleury5538
4 жыл бұрын
Clarke and Bellamy are obviously not the leaders we knew from past seasons. Octavia emerges as the smart leader of her people here. Even Hope, Echo, and Diyoza are smarter than these two dummies. Octavia and Echo will save them all.
@gaetano8976
4 жыл бұрын
Support the 100 prequel
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
It will be good if it gets green lit.
@Kamina1
4 жыл бұрын
Tbh i PRAY Bellamy is playing the long con, and this is all an act. The character finding religion is a ridiculous plot line, and makes absolutely zero sense. The preview for next week gives me this terrible feeling that the writing staff is going butcher Bellamy's character again like they did in season 3 *sigh* not again SN: His name is "Doucette" not Conductor btw. Bellamy called him that all throughout the episode.
@staceye2851
4 жыл бұрын
Conductor is his title. He controls the journey travels using the stone codes
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yes Conductor is the title, I just did not catch the name and was watching without subtitles and forgot to check for subtitles after I was done and as I started recording.
@WonkelDee
4 жыл бұрын
Clarke was kind of stupid for telling Bellamy so casually and in the presence of the disciples. He had obviously been through extreme physical and mental duress, and with knowledge of the disciples manipulation tactics, it should have been obvious to not reveal any information until they are private and secure. Otherwise, I hope that after the finale everyone can peacefully coexist, including the disciples or even the bardoans, assuming they still exist in some form. I also would like to know what happened to eligius 3, although it is not pertinent to the story.
@victornitchev38
4 жыл бұрын
I get what your saying but Clarke didn’t want to run the risk of them extracting information from Bellamy like they did to Octavia and that means they would find out Clarke isn’t the key
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Actually I would have told him, if I didn't know he was brainwashed I would be worried of tongue slip while he talks to the shepherd.
@WonkelDee
4 жыл бұрын
What the Geek Good point. Still a tad too impulsive for my taste. I would have asked for the room alone, and then do an analysis on Bellamy, if he seems brainwashed, then you can plan your next move. Where they can prepare for the inevitable, and turn their disadvantage, into their advantage.
@Luk3-936
4 жыл бұрын
All I gotta say is that this is the last season with only a few episodes left.... Clarke better be prepping those tits for exposure
@AyuckzAovia
4 жыл бұрын
Bellamy knows about the flame. Sooner or later he will find out what is the key and will tell sheperd eventually
@cnote8546
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so looking forward to the next 5 eps. I feel like they are going to be the greatest eps of the seaosn and the show. This show has all the makings to have one of the best series finales I have ever seen in TV.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well I am certain it will be good, but nothing as far as I know will beat the finale of AoS that we just watched this week, well if you are an AoS viewer you would know what I'm talking about.
@MichaKarssen
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t we just get back to them fighting grounders though lmao
@valentinajedlicka9468
4 жыл бұрын
Frrrrr
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Sure, I will call them and start a war.
@MichaKarssen
4 жыл бұрын
What the Geek ty ☺️
@Rninetugs
4 жыл бұрын
The city of lights coming back.... I think we'll see a lot of old faces like jaha, Abby,
@abdullahsafi643
4 жыл бұрын
So may we meet again 😅
@groversahil2009
4 жыл бұрын
when is that happening? The city of light coming back?
@fritzenskyeglaus318
4 жыл бұрын
Nah sorry man that’s dead
@deepanucci1631
4 жыл бұрын
I hope so
@deepanucci1631
4 жыл бұрын
Rebel Sony I hope so
@mrj4082
4 жыл бұрын
Bill somehow knew Clarke didn't have the flame due to his lack of a reaction, his face was like I already knew
@forrestcollective9184
4 жыл бұрын
Can't help but feel his lack of reaction to the news was because he was just pretending that he wanted Clarke for the key... that way it made her think she had something to barter with, and not rush straight to violence like she has in the past. Clarke has always acted like she wants peace (much like her mother), yet she will hurt those she loves just to do what she believes is right. They both have a pretty long list of things they have done to "save those they love". They have even taught Madi to be like that, its only now that Masi is away from them both and has John, Emori, and Jackson looking after her that you can start to see her healthily working through things and putting in the work.
@livinglavidalokat
4 жыл бұрын
He knew when they said his daughter was the great flame keeper
@forrestcollective9184
4 жыл бұрын
@@livinglavidalokat but does he know what that means? Flame keeper to someone who knows nothing, would assume that she keeps the flame in her, and therefore be in the flame. Dunno though haha.
@harrisonkey698
4 жыл бұрын
@@livinglavidalokat no, Pram fleimkepa means FIRST flame keeper, not great
@livinglavidalokat
4 жыл бұрын
Harrison Key true but either way, he knows that flame keeper isn’t the same as commander
@lili9627
4 жыл бұрын
Ok to add to this, in the beginning of the episode we see that the conductor (Doucette) is badly hurt - his leg is broken with the bone just sticking out of his skin, now a small fracture would take 1-2 months to heal but a open compound fracture like what Doucette had would take several months to heal but we see him putting his full weight on it in what that can be no more than a week later. Even Bellamy is surprised, he asks how it was possible but there was no elaboration.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
True that.
@toadmann8353
4 жыл бұрын
Bellamy actually says "I AM afraid' before jumping. Small detail, but interesting.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah realized that but works both ways. I mean you could still make same argument: 1. Afraid but my belief gets me to do it anyway. 2. Not Afraid because I believe.
@toadmann8353
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek Totally! Thanks for the videos!
@cloudydaze2542
4 жыл бұрын
Bellamy tends to act lik he's not afraid the whole episode he had his own strong will that slowly changed. by that point he let go of his emotional strength and faced the fact that he is truly afraid of whats next and fear is what drives the faith. They say fear and faith go hand and hand. Him sayin he's afraid was the final test. Havin fear of the unknown with a guidance of faith that says you will be ok is what made him jump
@samgaminghero9769
4 жыл бұрын
How was the shepherd supposedly waiting for them to come back?
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I know!!! Exactly, it all just does not add up.
@cloudydaze2542
4 жыл бұрын
I mean they knew someone blasted in portal. what they jus ignored the fact or didnt check up plus someone was watchin them as they claimed the mountain
@saint2972
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I actually do believe it was a simulation
@MaymoneyInDaBuilding
4 жыл бұрын
Im feel sad for my fave Bellamy and being brainwashed. He deserves so much better! Hopefully his loved ones can pull him out of it. Kinda like he how pulled Clarke out of the mind space. Im curious as to maybe now that its confirmed that Clarke doesnt have the key (I think Bill already knew) that this will tie up the two storylines soon. Maybe Sheidheda and Madi are what he Keys
@MaymoneyInDaBuilding
4 жыл бұрын
@David Stairs Very possible. Im excited to see
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well Madi or Sheidheda might have the key he needs, memories.
@huggleskuishy
4 жыл бұрын
You make videos fast! Thanks again dude!
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Anytime buddy!!!
@zthompson4830
4 жыл бұрын
Yea but he came back with snow on him and all , so I’m not 100% convinced. In the simulations they didn’t come back with clothes and things from the simulation
@christendsouza5845
4 жыл бұрын
It was wierd for me that the broken bone was healed enough to walk within 1 week.
@DeanSmith-vc7je
4 жыл бұрын
@@christendsouza5845 mike tyson won a fight with a broken back
@tifftremayne41
4 жыл бұрын
christen dsouza, But the freezing temperatures would have made the pain in his leg more unbearable though. Plus they were climbing up a mountain using unstable footholds for hours where the Conductor would have been forced to put his full weight onto his broken leg which usually takes between three to six months to fully heal and even then, you need physical therapy afterward to get the muscles to full strength. And why did Bellamy have a walking stick but not the Conductor? Shouldn’t the injured party use it? I found that to be very odd. But cool thing about Mike Tyson! I didn’t know that. He must be one strong determined dude or he was just high as a kite on pain meds 😂
@azurenojito2251
4 жыл бұрын
@@christendsouza5845 Not only weird, but absolutely unrealistic. Even a minor fracture in the leg bone takes up to 2 months to heal under ideal conditions. In the extreme cold and lack of proper bandages, nourishment, etc., he would not have been able to walk, let alone climb the way he did.
@azurenojito2251
4 жыл бұрын
Of course you have a good point here, but they could have manipulated the experience at the point of their return, and made their appearance match it in all ways.
@cnote8546
4 жыл бұрын
Also, although Murphy annoyed me with his decisions in season, which almost faulted his development for me, he is still one of my favourite characters and I hope he does not die in sanctum. He needs to reunite with everyone before he bites the dust.
@PaulBrown-uj5le
4 жыл бұрын
I actually read next week's synopsis and by the sound of thing's everyone is back at sanctum, it says there's a new problem they have to deal with or something along these lines.
@prophettherealest2076
4 жыл бұрын
Murphy went from most hated then felt sorry for him to now a respected leader..talk about character developement
@sarahbruce4397
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t he also have a happy family
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
His decisions are part of his character, he is IMO the most developed on this series
@brandyochoa6031
4 жыл бұрын
Actually I watched it just before this video and the closed captions showed that Bellamy actually said “I’m Afraid” before jumping off the mountain.
@AmiAki
4 жыл бұрын
i didnt have subs but i assumed thats what he said since he mentioned it before. i literally couldn't understand what he said there and some bits in the episodes
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yepe I was told, in all cases it works both ways: 1. He is not afraid: Then his belief in Cadogan strengthened him. 2. He is afraid: Makes it even worse, because that means he will ignore the fear in his head because of his belief in Cadogan.
@zoranb
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know on what basis you conclude that time on Bardo flows slower. Octavia, Echo and Diyoza spent three months in training after Bellamy disappeared. Bellamy first treated that guy for about a week, they spent more than two months in a cave on the mountain. In total, it could be about three months.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Actually in the end he said something about stopping counting after the second month in the cave, you don't say you stopped counting when you have been there for 2.5 months. Besides this beard does not grow in 3 months no matter how fast your hair growth is, there is a limit to how fast it could grow. Also there is the distance from the black hole that impacts it all, unless both of them are at precisely the same distance, like not an inch extra, then they should have lost their memories going in or coming out according to the rules established by the series.
@zoranb
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek "Besides this beard does not grow in 3 months no matter how fast your hair growth is, there is a limit to how fast it could grow. " -He already had a beard, but shorter. "Actually in the end he said something about stopping counting after the second month in the cave, you don't say you stopped counting when you have been there for 2.5 months."-When you are tired, hungry and cold couple of weeks can seem like an eternity.
@manuelrullo3663
4 жыл бұрын
I actually believe this but why would levitt say “he’s alive?” and what was the purpose of that scene if it’s just a simulation
@PaulBrown-uj5le
4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't filled in about it because he has feelings for Octavia and they weren't going take a chance on the simulation being found out.
@manuelrullo3663
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Brown yeah ok but octavia saw him, echo saw it too after
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I think Levitt as I mentioned before has a double agenda, or at least he has some doubts about the cause and he is about to get to the point of discovering the truth about Bill Cadogan and realizing it is all BS, the man is made out of BS.
@SimonaZav
4 жыл бұрын
My theroy is that this scene was important because when Levitt realized he is alive, they came after Bellamy on that planet an saved him. Bellamy ended up on the Etheria for real, but they took him most likely when he passed out from the storm and then put him into the simulation instead. so when he woked up, he was already in simulation. that would explain wierd things that happened right after he woke up in the cave.
@gus195
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it’s not a simulation since Bellamy had the same clothes and he had snow in the simulation you don’t come out like that
@orange5423
4 жыл бұрын
Bellamy said "I am affraid" before he jumped. It's probably because of Octavia he jumped, not because he believes 100% in Bill, he believes him a bit I think. Or it's just that he acts to, does everything to go back, go back to Octavia. Even if that means believing Bill
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Either way it proves he believes. I am afraid but I will jump because of my beliefs. I am not afraid so I will jump because my beliefs take the fear away.
@frednunziata5
4 жыл бұрын
so since they've thrown a massive twist here's mine with this weeks episode, I absolutely agree this was a simulation, I agree the twist of Bellamy at the end was out of no where, sort of. I agree there is some sort of trickery going on. but here me out again lol, Bellamy knew when Clarke was still inside the mind of Josephine when she was thought dead and part of the primes and I think Clarke will realize the same thing about Bellamy. Bellamy is just playing Cadogan and trying to figure a way to save his people. So we are suggesting that it was a simulation as the memory aspect does not compute there. Levitt realized he was still alive when everyone thought he was dead, so they run the simulation on him, make him go through trials and is left with a believer to essentially climb a mountain, skip to the vision and he's In the room with his mom. I know he started to cry and it was emotional, BUT we know echo beat the simulation and it can be realized that a simulation is in progress, faking and having nefarious plans still while completing and succeeding. I really do believe Bellamy noticed something about his mom that did not add up to him and all of his memories of her telling him octavia is his responsibility and to not be afraid. I believe that he consciously knows that it was not real from that moment with her. I just felt something off about his mother being in that room and saying to go to the light. she used to say to hide in the darkness.i believe that he realzies this and this starts that ruse of the double cross, playing into Cadogans plan or idea, yet he is planning on saving the group and his people. so to the twist of him betraying Clarke and the gang, he wants to learn more from bill and he wants to plan to double cross the double cross. another point strengthening the simulation, in the room with Levitt the other disciple seem to be questioning the repercussions of the group after the incident and Anders death, almost as if she was wondered if revenge was being taken. the fact that doucett helped Bellamy achieve enlightenment and lure him to the Shepard's cause really didn't sit right with me, the group have technically killed dozens of disciples and it has been mentioned in the back of convos that they do seek revenge they just haven't because Clarke it the key. I really think this going sucks this is the last go for the 100. only a handful more to go. great vid again great theories. thank you as always cheers
@OhOkayThenLazySusan
4 жыл бұрын
Yessss. I knew I was missing something about this. That moment with his mom was almost too ambiguous.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, but to what you said, to risk them getting screwed or possibly killed before he knows anything would be extremely stupid of him. I just think at this point he is brainwashed, he just needs a wake up call.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong though.
@frednunziata5
4 жыл бұрын
Hey tbh everyone is wrong with theories technically until the episode comes out and becomes reality. Just glad we humans can just chat about it and opinions and still enjoy the show ! If this small chance does actually come through .....🤯 just like the “evolve into more” idea I gots ✌️🤙 ty again cheers 👊 B
@frednunziata5
4 жыл бұрын
Michael DeNunzio you’re the closest thing to a Nunziata I’ve ever seen. 👊 dope
@xoffworld
4 жыл бұрын
Just finished watched the episode... perfect timing
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well glad to be on time.
@queenshanna
4 жыл бұрын
11:27 actually, at the end of the ep, he said he WAS afraid. throughout it, he said he wasn't, but at the end he said he was.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
The argument would work both ways though. Either his fear is taken away by his belief or his belief has him ignore his fear.
@fritzenskyeglaus318
4 жыл бұрын
You guys forget just how smart Bill Cadogan actually is, he plotted that whole system, and rested for YEARSS while it played out. Not even surprised Bellamy’s alive, not even surprised Clark doesn’t have the flame.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure he was not surprised Clarke didn't have the flame, I think he is shocked.
@elvisibra
4 жыл бұрын
it's possible that it was planed cause conductor and Anders gave each other "a look" back then, and "cave of the ascend" is tech of some kind most likely, Bill may have known about the Flame, cause Nylah told him about Kalliope PramFleimkepa, and it's all about finding a balance between narrow view and seeing a bigger picture: Bell and Clarke&co- too narrow, Bill- too wide..Heda is still a winner in being balanced in between, and Lexa is THE queen of that balance, and Kane was on the right track, same as Indra is..
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Bill already knew about the flame because he wanted to take it out of Becca in the prequel backdoor pilot.
@elvisibra
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek I meant, he maybe knew that Clarke doesn't have it..
@badrukk143
4 жыл бұрын
I have noticed some errors in your theory. From my understanding time moves at the same speed on Bardo and Etherea. A few month have passed for Octavia and Bellamy since "Bellamys death" near the portal. The memory loss is just a thing when you travel from and to skyring, because time is so accelerated there. I think Bellamy choose to join the Sheperd, because he thinks it is the right thing to do. I dont think it was a Simulation.
@vicentiuXeduard
4 жыл бұрын
Most likely, the dude ate a scorpio, he was starving and freezing, enough reasons to get a powerful "mystical" experience. The shappard cause that was all he was hearing, +the book , his mom due to guilt, the light the mystery, + some alien tech might have been involved. Bellamy loyalty's were always toward his ideas, feelings and values, those changed due to his breakdown and isolation. Either way we are speculating on someone's fiction and that's harder to deduce then reality. We will soon find out.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
A lot of shit still does not add up. How did he see that vision, is the Shepherd really that powerful, are we now believing he is a God? How did he see the shepherd in his exact current state, bigger beard, etc. when he has never met him? I can keep poking holes into the idea you are proposing but I will agree on one thing, it is possible that part of it was not a simulation, but some parts had to be.
@hearanecho
4 жыл бұрын
Another question is, isn't jumping in to the anomaly every second is years passed? But how did he jump and get there at the same time? He took a deep moment before jumping thats years makes no sense
@badrukk143
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek Bill Cadogan visited the cave on Etherea before Bellamy. I assume he established contact with the transcended beings. He was considered worthy by the beings, as well as Bellamy and the Conductor. So Bill has a connection to those beings which allowed him to appear in that cave in his current status as a vision of Bellamy.
@orange5423
4 жыл бұрын
14, exactly that indeed! That sounds so much more logic than anything ;) It was probabaly, after Bellamy prayed, a simulation. Just like Anders was able to "enter" one persons simulation like he did with Dyosa when he "killed" her baby. Just like that Bill "entered" Bellamy's simulation en talked to him. Thats also why Bill has the same clothes on when Bellamy sees him on Bardo. If it was a memory or something from Bellamy, Bill would have different clothes Bellamy Brainwashed :( But increddible made episode, wow!
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
It was a beautiful episode!!!
@publicfreakoutcringe1918
4 жыл бұрын
When you're months after months alone living in a cave with another who is more optimistic because (douchette) believes in the Sheperd. Bellamy was about to break his own spirit by forcing himself to chase his ego to the top to return to his friends... That's why he almost died, and B also understands, and respects, WHY douchette saved him, like B saved him in the beginning... B saved him because he needed Douchette... Now Douchette saves B just because of his lightness of his believes... B wants that as well, more pure ways of thinking... Letting his sufferage go, by letting his love for his friends go, ... Like douchette said, love isn't the problem, but HOW you love that is. The theory that Bellamy's trip was a simulation could be true. The theory that Levitt is planning this entire thing in the shadows could also be true. Maybe some combination he (Levitt) uses Bellamy and Octavia; there is so much more about Levitt than we are let believed on. The "Last War" will be seen as the battle against Sheiheda when they discover they (Bardo) need him for his memories... Or they need Madi because of her memories, but is a captive of Sheiheda... I believe S-heda will be able to disable the 'invisible cloak' ability of the second dawn, and that's where the 'Last War' will take place (Sanctum). In the end they'll do that "test". And see some late on twists that we weren't expecting, or is was early on seen as some speculation theory that didn't had much support to go on. We'll see, like you said before, these "beings" will test humanity, humanity will "ascend" by giving their past back without the apocalypses... PLUS, EMORI IS PREGNANT :-) I'm still holding on to it mate, I want to bet that this (small) theory will have it's role to play in certain situations... Probabely to just kill of a pregnant Emori to give John that push he needs to do something to fulfill that mission... Not 10 minutes later we will see the "new timeline" with Emori, John and their child living in the 'real world, new reality'. THIS is how they could adapt the pregnant Emori into the story. Niki said few episodes back "is it the palace that's given this glow...", the comforting of Madi and several other smaller indications... Enough to support that Emori is pregnant, even so, some of us were waiting on it for so long now... Same for Bellamy and Echo, or some other characters of importance...
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I think Levitt is not planning it, I think Levitt is having his own doubts actually and that will come into play later on. Haha, I don't know why everyone likes pregnancy theories. But yeah sure, why not? Haha!!! You should join us on Discord, a few subs are in all the time discussing the series.
@gabe-po9yi
4 жыл бұрын
If you’ve ever known or known of people (plenty in history) who believe they had a vision, they are unshakeable in their interpretation of what was revealed to them. They discount everyone’s thoughts, opinions and beliefs because those people don’t know what ‘they know’. Bellamy has shown a tendency to trust fully in his assessment of things and he’s very much into polarity - it’s either all of this or all of that, nothing in-between. Take a person like that, who now believes the secret of life has been revealed to them and you’ve got either a monster or a saint.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
With Bellamy it is more of a saint working for a monster.
@isaacsimmons5434
4 жыл бұрын
I dont know the exact parameters, but they definitely set Bellamy up. Back when Octavia said she'd help as long as they sent him back to Sanctum, why didn't he get blown to Sanctum when they opened the portal then? Somethings up.
@forrestcollective9184
4 жыл бұрын
True! Maybe he didn't go back to Santum, because the stone was shut down? Doesn't explain how the code was entered, then just went to another/wrong place. Can't remember who entered the code, but maybe they entered the code for 'simulation'? They have said there was so much the stone could do, and they had figured out how to harness some of them..... so many possibilities, just "Hope" it's not a let down. So many ways it could go wrong haha.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the stone in Sanctum was shutdown, I think it is just deactivated from its side, if someone activates a portal to Sanctum it should technically open up again. The it was shutdown assumption is still just an assumption IMO.
@hannahpreece3651
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly why would the soldier blow himself up “for the shepherd” no one asked him to do that. They specifically brought Bellamy to that world and wanted him alive. Subduing him was not going to be a problem. They waited until Octavia was there to witness his death - for its impact on her and so he’d know she was alive and he needed to survive to rescue her. They made a a mistake though because Octavia warned Bellamy that this was all about Clarke. I believe Bellamy told on Clarke so that The Shepherd would trust him. For all we know he’s already told the conductor about the flame being destroyed. They were in the snow cave for over 10 months alone.
@androgyny77
4 жыл бұрын
Okay so after those first three questionable episodes, this season has definitely picked up and has been satisfying. They seem to be tying things together pretty well, i hope it doesn't all fall apart. Love this theory, the memory retention is definitely a red flag. Also, the whole climb-the-mountain, pray-and-the-storm-goes-away, the Mr-Burns-I-Bring-You-Love-beings-of-light and basically the whole thing they had to go through was very on the nose, so I hope it was a simulation, otherwise it's a little bit - well, unbelievable.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I sure hope so, Mr. Cadogan is no God.
@thecosmicvalkyrie7145
4 жыл бұрын
This episode kinda reminded me of Book 4. If it keeps mirroring it.. then I think that Bellamy really does believe in the shepard but he will eventually snap out of it and be the one to kill him (Or decide his fate).
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have not read book 4 yet, even though I know the stories by the end of book 3 have no chance of being the same.
@marlonhunt4327
4 жыл бұрын
You are right. The shepherd himself said he don't believe that nonsense
@hydrofuturaa
4 жыл бұрын
that was key moment....and he only confesed that to gabriel becuase they have lived for soo long!
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, but he still wants to be a God of his own, he thinks it is nonsense but he also knows he can control people with it.
@wissem9727
4 жыл бұрын
This the only season of the 100 where i really needed to take other's reviews.. Coz in each episode i got lost.. Of course they are doing this on purpose. But honnestly i have no theory.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Haha at least I hope you are enjoying the ride this season
@alexyuri_94
4 жыл бұрын
Bellamy did, in fact, go to Etherea because Octavia remembers the explosion and Bellamy vanishing. This means that Bellamy actually was in Etherea. I don't remember anyone stating that time in Etherea runs faster, but if that's true, then Bellamy definetely should not remember his time in Etherea, which points to him being in a simulation. Now, if time runs faster there, then he was brought back to Bardo at some point and put in a simulation. If time does not run faster, he went through it all just like we saw
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
If you notice I said he was definitely pushed through the portal, I am talking about what happens after he was pushed. For time to move the same as Bardo, Etherea should be at all times in its rotation at the same distance at the very same moment from the black hole as Bardo is. It is kind of difficult to have them run at exactly the same time and especially at all times.
@alexyuri_94
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek Just to be clear, I was agreeing with your 2nd theory... And I didn't say it is the same time, it could be that time on Bardo runs faster than in Etherea. But again, Doucette would have lost his memory in Etherea. So it probably means what you said: Bellamy was in Etherea for some time and then brought back to Bardo, put in a simulation where he experienced his remaining journey "on Etherea". Btw, time dilation due to a gravitational field gets way too weak the farther you are from the black hole center because of the inverse square law so if Bardo and Etherea are as close as Earth and Mars, it could be that time dilation from one to the other isn't noticeable (but I don't believe that's the case, this is just a note)
@Janvsone
4 жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna acknowledge "Bellamys, awesome , #Skills-sewing, heatmaking, medicinal, okay I will, #KudosBells!!!
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
You just got a crush, haha!!!
@chriscollins4736
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't think the flame was destroyed though, didn't it get buried when clarke buried her mother's ring by the tree? Which means they still have some leverage?
@PinkieAngels
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@vicentiuXeduard
4 жыл бұрын
they might try to fix it, or not, makes no difference really, the show is about the last man standing
@chriscollins4736
4 жыл бұрын
It got buried by gaia in S7E3, and looking back didn't raven just some how remove Sheidheda from the flame by uploading his Data? so the flame was not destroyed as far as I'm aware!
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yes after having been destroyed.
@HorseloverFat1984
4 жыл бұрын
That video brought you a new subscriber. Great work!
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@carolynb.9469
4 жыл бұрын
Also, where is Gaia?? She's probably on the actual other planet, since she's not on sky ring, Sanctum, Bardo, Etherea, or the planet they keep their dead, and the last planet of the 6 was earth with a deactivated stone
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I am also waiting to figure out Gaia, she seems to be in for a major role in all of this.
@marim1795
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek What if Gaia is going through the same simulation as Bellamy in the cave, but that they cannot break her spirit because she already is spiritually very strong OR she recognizes Bill in the photo of her conductor (the one who kidnapped her) and wants revenge for what he has done to her fellow ex-flamekeepa Callie. She might have to kill her conductor and find her escape out of Etherea on her own.
@GreenJuiceEditz
4 жыл бұрын
Best show ever
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well not the best IMO, but one of the real good ones.
@evilvolts
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek he hasn't seen The Expanse I take it ]:P
@SydMountaineer
4 жыл бұрын
I finally noticed a clue that helps to prove what Bellamy witnessed on the mountain was simulated, and mostly, WHY The Sheppard would go to extremes to do this, to make Bellamy a believer: A few episodes ago, when Hope, Echo, and Gabriel arrived on the prison planet (Skyring/Planet Beta/Penance), Hope said something to Echo like, "What is it about Bellamy that makes otherwise sensible women willing to die for him?". The Sheppard knows that people believe in and trust Bellamy (especially Clark), since he seen into their minds with that machine, so he assumes that if he can make Bellamy a believer, the others will follow along. But, that is not going to work.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is a good motivation to target Bellamy.
@_why_always_me7861
4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@catholicmusic1915
4 жыл бұрын
When I was watching I was like what ???,ballamy being a believer,we gonna have so much fun talking about this
@Kamina1
4 жыл бұрын
@David Stairs Great sarcasm 👍
@m.c.martin
4 жыл бұрын
If you don’t know it’s a simulation, as Levitt told the others when they were in it, they you would think it is real 100%
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, I know!!! And M.C. Martin, you make my point even stronger. They would believe it 100% and they know before and after they were in one. Imagine if Bellamy was in one without knowing, he would totally submit.
@tomasstrbik8951
4 жыл бұрын
I think he didn't lose his memories, because the time on Etherea and Bardo are running identically fast, Bellamy said that he stopped counting days after two months, and given that they didn't have enough food, they couldn't have been there more than three months, which is exactly the time that had passed on Bardo corresponding with Octavia, Echo, Dioza and Hope's training
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
The idea of it being identical requires a ton of stars to align, like they need to be at the exact same distance from the blackhole, exact same, their orbits have to be at the same distance all the way through, etc. Furthermore do you really believe Cadogan is a God? Also he stopped counting days after two months and they did not have enough food from the get go, when he first tried to get out and into the snow, that is why Bellamy wanted to go for it? Do you think his beard would grow this big in 3 months? Do you think someone would say they stopped counting after two months because just another month has passed? What I am trying to say is you are looking at 1/10 of the picture.
@monalisakaremba811
4 жыл бұрын
one thing that convinced me to believe this theory is that the weather changed the moment bellamy finished praying...how is that even possible
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I know, the power of Mr. Cadogan!!!
@yahkobnewyear3384
4 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Bellamy was on a simulation after he got kidnapped and he was uncosconscious and made up a scene of an explosion. While also Octavia and Doucete got hooked up with that machine at the same time. I mean, come on. Why would a disciple army detonates a grenade while his leaders Anders and conductor is near to him.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
True that.
@etherealsekrets182
4 жыл бұрын
I see similarities between the idea of purgatory and this show now.. quite interesting. Look back at season 3, when they denounce the City of Light and the punishments are a lot like Christianity. Jason's last name is Jewish. I love this season, seems like it's going to be wrapped up in a nice little bow.
@dennism5382
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I call it purgatory , but yes I think the series will end with a crazy ending that wraps up the story in one final nice bow... Up until this episode I thought the Shepard was kinda crazy.... Now I think they made this episode along with Bellamy's transformation into a disciple to show how everything the Shepard aka Bill has been saying is true , and Bellamy has realized that there is more to life than Fighting and trying to survive , and that the show will end with some crazy happy where somehow the "transcendence" is real and we see the human race transcend into immortal beings . I think this is how it will all end
@etherealsekrets182
4 жыл бұрын
@@dennism5382 the idea of purgatory is you go basically go thru hell to transcend. That's just one paraphrased version of purgatory, depending on the religion it changes. I meant it in broad sense. Using religious I ideas. I agree about everything and you said about that Cadogen situation.
@PaulBrown-uj5le
4 жыл бұрын
@@dennism5382 no, lol they're all teleported back to a better earth, I bet?#$%
@forrestcollective9184
4 жыл бұрын
@@dennism5382 hope not. If you take away all the past wrongs, there is even less point to it all. Therefore making it meaningless. Life is about more than surviving, true. But transcendence cannot mean changing the past, becoming immortal, or anything like that. In my opinion, time will tell us if you're correct :).
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I am certain too it is gonna end well Dennis and yeah it works with the idea of Purgatory, not necessarily hell, I mean a series like LOST created a similar concept with a place where you just need to find everyone you cared for on a mission to finding yourself and that is when you would end up finding yourself heading to where you belong, in that case it was a version of Heaven or happily ever after.
@comatoseenigma9200
4 жыл бұрын
They literally had to break bellamy to make him believe in the shepherd but i dont think bellamy will betray his friends to the point of killing them. He’ll probably do better with this new found believe
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
In his mind he is not betraying them, he is doing the right thing.
@stargirl4120
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just keep waiting for the season to get better and it's just not happening. I feel like the Bardo and Sanctum storyline should've been connected by now. I am sure that will probably happen after the next episode as I have a feeling the Cadogan and the disciples will now be after Madi once they have finished with Clark's memories. I just feel like the connection should've been made already. They gave us a bunch of filler episodes and tbh a lot of stuff could've fit into one episode. Now it's like everything will be rushed into to these last 5 episodes. I dont see how they will tie up the main characters arcs in a way that doesnt seem rushed. At this point the finale is bound to be a mess.
@vicentiuXeduard
4 жыл бұрын
i feel the same in some regards, they've opened to many arcs, and now there's just 5 episodes left to wrap it up.
@stargirl4120
4 жыл бұрын
@@beea5057 The only problem with this is that the timeline doesnt really add up. I mean didn't Lexa succeed Sheidheda? We also saw the original Sheidheda and he doesnt look like Cadogan's son. I definitely get why you think Sheidheda is his son tbh it would make his storyline make sense because I dont see his relevance right now. However, the timeline they have us doesnt add up to me
@stargirl4120
4 жыл бұрын
@@vicentiuXeduard They definitely opened to many arcs. I keep saying that the two storylines should've been connected by now . Tying up the arcs of the main characters will be so rushed (except for Murphy).
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I disagree but it is your opinion about it so I respect it.
@agartustheivthpaternos
4 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Gaia might even be kept by those creatures in another “Cave of Ascend” all this time. Wouldn’t that be possible?
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well there is still one planet we have not seen, so Gaia is probably there.
@saint2972
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah hopefully Gaia doesnt come back different or an old person lol. Really though...nobody seems to even be bothered as to where she is
@SydMountaineer
4 жыл бұрын
The fact that we already found out, in the last episode, that the "Sheppard" does not truly understand the message (how he misinterpreted the word war) makes this episode redundant. If he was so powerful, he would not have made such a huge mistake. It seems that this episode should've been before the previous episode.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well it is not redundant, it is not like we have been believing in his Godliness all along. The episode is about Bellamy and how he ends up on the side of the Shepherd not about the grace and the glory of the Shepherd.
@SydMountaineer
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek I see what you mean, but there are a couple things about this that does not make sense to me, like Bellamy's group not telling him about the Sheppard's misinterpretation, it seems like that would've been the first thing they told him to argue against his belief, which brings up another issue: Suspension of Disbelief: I'm surprised that the writers expected us to believe that Bellamy (or any of The 100) would be so gullible to believe in the Sheppard only because he seen that vision of his mother and what happened on the mountain. Unless they purposely WANT VIEWERS TO KNOW THAT THERE'S NO WAY HE WOULD BE TRICKED SO EASILY, but, that seems too subtle, and there's not much to support that they are trying to convey that. We DO know that Bellamy is unaware of how the Sheppard's people can simulate things in someone's mind to make it seem real, but that alone is not a good enough reason to make me believe that Bellamy would be so gullible, with everything that we know about Bellamy, like the fact that he knows about simulated environments, like the City of Light. On the flip side, there's also nothing that gives us reason to believe (not even a hint) that Bellamy is feigning his belief in the Sheppard. Bellamy's belief just seems out of place and odd.
@TheMiguel1601
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly your Theory sounds so good!! And I believe it. But can we talk about how easy it is for Bellamy to follow war leaders. Like damn I thought he would have learned his lesson after Pike, but I guess not.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well it is not easy, this is psychology 101. Put him in a situation where he is in so much hardship and then give him what he would think is a miracle and baam, he believes.
@sydhull2726
4 жыл бұрын
I think it was a simulation.. like the whole planet is a simulation. The Shepard was waiting for them. And it’s not a coincidence that he was there right as they returned.
@sydhull2726
4 жыл бұрын
Especially bc the picture was in perfect condition. The Shepard would of been there decades before Bellamy
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Good points too.
@orange5423
4 жыл бұрын
Bill is not down to Earth He is down to Bardo Ok I had to okkkkk
@harrisonkey698
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🙄😂
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
ROFLMAO, I will love it because it cracked me up like crazy. Hell I will love it and like it.
@raquelleborg6020
4 жыл бұрын
One thing that doesnt really make sense is the fact that even though he spent 2+ months barely eating he obviously isnt malnourished. After two months of only eating insects you would have a multitude of conditions like weakness, dizziness, confusion, organ failure; therefore there is no way he would be able to climb a mountain than jump of said mountain and once he lands the first thing he does is jumping up and hugging the guy who was with him. Another thing that I find fishy is that they immediately took him to see his people: they didnt give him time to rest or change, why would they do that??
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Which leads back to simulation.
@xawfx
4 жыл бұрын
i liked the conductor in this episode and that ending was amazing one of my favorite episodes so far
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I think it was pretty solid with a good twist/surprise in the very end.
@saint2972
4 жыл бұрын
I want to know where the fuck Gaia is!
@emmab1282
4 жыл бұрын
Also....in the scene where it shows Bellamy's supposed death...when octavia tells anders to open the bridge and send him back to sanctum and she'll tell him everything he wants to know. Why did anders open it for etherea then? Without a helmet to pick the planets they have to put in an individual code for each planet. So anders did not intend for him to go back to sanctum. I agree that it was a sim and he was on Bardo the whole time being that fact that his memory of his new belief found on etherea was not forgotten upon returning to bardo without a helmet.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it all leads up to it being staged.
@baberuthless8055
4 жыл бұрын
As soon as Bellamy saw his mom my first thought went to the episode where Monty saw his mom. Something about that scene....just makes me think this was all planned even before they went into the portal. I agree with the hunger games theory. His character development has been....interesting. They chose him because they saw in Octavia’s memory how naive he is and how he blindly followed Pike. Turned his back on his sister once, they believe he’ll do it twice.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, they are not idiots in this sense or in any sense for that matter except following the Shepherd blindly, they do their homework.
@kajdroks8620
4 жыл бұрын
what if in etherea the air is toxic and makes them hallucinate
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Possible but that would still not explain certain details of the hallucination
@deepanucci1631
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t like how Bellamy just straight up snitch like whyyyy 😤😭🤭
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Brainwashed? Indoctrinated under rough circumstances.
@azurenojito2251
4 жыл бұрын
You are right. However, if this is not the case on the show, they probably neglected some important details for lack of enough time.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so or otherwise they should just not have done that Bellamy arc at all.
@Gifkrigiroorigifif
3 жыл бұрын
How do you feel knowing the shepherd wasn’t bullshitting at least not 100% he was wrong about having to fight a war but not about anything else
@caramelsupreme
4 жыл бұрын
There is also the fact that in the early episodes Bellamy was dragged by an invisible force. They wanted to take him for a purpose. And I don't know what it means but you mentioned poison. Before praying, B ate a scorpio(?)
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well still he would not hallucinate Bill Cadogan in his current state and form and attire, would he?
@lilatolouian
4 жыл бұрын
Hey there, first time viewer of any of your content, it came up first because I wanted to see if anyone gave an in depth discussion on this episode! I’m excited to watch your previous reviews! My first thoughts when he kneeled in front of “my Sheppard” was “OMG what if it was a simulation like, black mirror style!” And then remembering the simulations of echo, Octavia, and Hope, it all seems very plausible! HOWEVER!!!! I would be really bummed out if that journey entirely had been a simulation. But the way you described it, the way they tried it one way with team Octavia, and then a different approach with Bellamy, it makes me really sad that it was a simulation. Because if you remove the aspect of the cult/religion/spiritual belief/“Sheppard” from the episode, then it could REALLY have been a personal journey to enlightenment and I would NOT believe that it was a simulation. But if Bill was only worshipped as a leader to his people, and not as a god, then I would 100 percent believe that Bellamy HAD transcended, maybe not FULLY, but in an advanced meditative state in close proximity to anomaly-like light/energy. I really hope that Etherea DOES exist and that it opens the door to a higher consciousness, and that he WAS seeing his mother in that state of heightened conscientiousness, because that would mean that the answers they have all been searching for (whether they knew it or not) and that maybe the “final war” for mankind is maybe the war is something that happens inside each persons mind, and is not an actual physical war with fighting and killing, but a war of the heart. I know this comment is getting too long now, just wanted to type out these thoughts as they come, and I JUST watched the episode, so while it’s still fresh in my mind, just bear with me a minute, because another line that stuck out to me was what the conductor said, something along the lines of “not sacrificing a few for the many” - which was the opposite of what the Clarke/kane/Thelonius ideology has had as a running theme with the series. That line stuck out to me, because it’s just like what Monty had been wanting for them, to be better than the way they were raised and adapted to for survival. Maybe if it WASN’T a simulation, then whatever happened was a true shift in Bellamy’s previous perception of life and of love and of selfishness. Maybe Bill is like the Primes 2.0 -OR- maybe, just maybe, he USED to be that way, before, on earth, when Ego was still guiding him, but then he experienced a shift in himself the same way Bellamy did and he wrote his book after he went through that transcendence, and that it changed him. Clarke and Co. are skeptical because of all of their previous experiences with other humans (mount weather, ice nation, other grounders, the first Allie, the Primes, etc) which closed them off from trusting anything that strangers like the Band of Bardo Bros. But maybe, just MAYBE, these are finally people who AREN’T full of shit, and that they really HAVE found their larger purpose in the universe. Ok my thoughts are fully out, I hope, and if anyone is still reading this far, than I appreciate you taking the time to hear my random thoughts ❤️ I’d love to see more theories deeper into the possibilities of transcendence.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Lila, thanks for your kind words. It is my pleasure to read your comments :) I agree with you the journey was brilliant, but if the journey were to be true then Cadogan is truly a God. Like I said though, there are two options, the journey was real and parts of it were fake, so possibly they got the same equipment on the other side, in Etherea, there is a team watching, they go in give him the visions, the stuff they want him to see and they wrap it up and put him back where he was sleeping or whatever. Etherea does exist, I am not arguing against it, I am arguing against what Bellamy saw in Etherea or the visions that the Shepherd gave him.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
By the way there is a small group of subscribers who spend time discussing this on my Discord server if you ever feel like joining them, you may enjoy the conversations.
@Ibelieve218
4 жыл бұрын
Kinda strange it seemed like Bellamy woke up and find it kinda weird the bill was standing there with the conductor
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Elaborate, what moment exactly are you talking about here?
@Ibelieve218
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek opening scene Bellamy on his stomach kinda curled he looks and sees bill and the conductor it just seems like he woke up.you see bill and the conductor standing smiling and standing next to each other and how did the conductor know that Bellamy would follow.bellamy told the conductor we would have to climb back down but the conductor seemed to know the best way was to jump
@caborabassa696
4 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't necessarily lose his memory. Clarke and the others travelled from Sanctum to Nakara and then to Bardo without helmets and they didn't lose their memory.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Time on Nakara moved faster so they shouldn't lose them and time in Bardo moves even faster so they shouldn't lose it either.
@cloudydaze2542
4 жыл бұрын
I think it was basically a real life simulation/epiphany moment. I believe the shepherd knows anyone that goes thru that journey will automatically be down for the cause. Plus it tested how loyal, compassionate, strong, determined Bellamy is for anything he sets his mind too. Someone lik Bellamy probably completed the simulation faster than others.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Actually it is more about: 1. He did not know it is a simulation so it was easy to brainwash him. 2. Cadogan used psychology 101. Make him desperate then give him help that saves him, in this case a fake vision and a fake miracle.
@cloudydaze2542
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek I never said he kne it was a simulation
@cloudydaze2542
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek I was talking about the bigger picture your referring to what made him change. I kno what made him change I'm sayin it's all fake but it worked in the shepherds favor
@cloudydaze2542
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek I think you're wrong about the vision being fake..
@hydrofuturaa
4 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed it´s a simulation, the Sheppard my ass, he let her kids die on earth and also his wife he doesn't care about saving all, he jus egocentric andt cares about being right!!!!! And I'm 100% sure madi is the key because she has the memory of all commanders, and she's being drawing them for some time....that why they are putting Clark on the machine next episode.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Madi has the key, but I am still wondering about the real key, the one who will have to go through the portal.
@jeremiahrussell2911
4 жыл бұрын
I think maddies drawings are the key because as u see she drew something that looked like the ball thing that u put the code in and she has drawn the symbols so i think that her drawings have the right symbols that they need to put in to get to the last war
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Madi probably has the code, but I am starting to think the key to open the portal is one thing, the key person to do the job is not necessarily the same.
@jeremiahrussell2911
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek yeah i never said maddie would be the one to go in i just think she has the code
@ThePunikaTV
4 жыл бұрын
What's kinda crazy to me is that while the entire story in season 6 and 7 took place many thousands of years have passed back on earth. Like, who knows how that planet looks like now?
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Are we sure though thousands of years have passed, I mean Earth maybe the fastest in terms of passage of time, maybe the slowest.
@ThePunikaTV
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek Sanctum is closer to a black hole than skyring, that's why time passes slower on sanctum. But skyring is still closer to the black hole than earth (earth isn't influenced by any black hole) so time passes even quicker compared to sanctum. A few hours on sanctum are more than 100 years on skyring so on earth it's at least more than that. And they spend at the very least a month on sanctum which means a few thousand years on earth
@savagegod1
4 жыл бұрын
I think this was all the Shepard plan all long let me take you back when Bellamy came to try to save his sister. The shepherd ( bill ) was the one to put the code in the stone because he knew what Bellamy was capable of so it was a test and he successfully fell for it but I hope he’s doing an act just like Echo did
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it is an act.
@savagegod1
4 жыл бұрын
that’s why I said I hope lel
@virisvaldes9924
2 жыл бұрын
Mi ship favorite is clexa
@redle9485
4 жыл бұрын
After how many years after the bombs did the release the 100 kids to earth?? Trying to understand all the time jumps
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
97
@jasonzeigler7056
4 жыл бұрын
Belemy goes back to Earth back time comes out of the desert and becomes Jesus. As the Shepard and having disiples.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
What?
@bryceclendenin
4 жыл бұрын
@What the Geek, I thought when Bellamy was on top about to jump down he said “ I am afraid.”
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I rewatched with subs and it was afraid rather than not afraid. Works both ways though actually. If he is afraid then he jumped because of fake faith and if he was not afraid then it was the faith strengthening him, I mean you can make the same argument on both ends of the continuum.
@bryceclendenin
4 жыл бұрын
What the Geek yeah that’s true. I’m just glad to get back to the sanctum story. At first it was kinda boring for me but now it’s getting better. I’m glad that the story is moving now instead of having Clarke in the same room for three episodes.
@hayley-kb7fh
4 жыл бұрын
i don’t think it’s a simulation but i think it’s staged because anders put in the code for etherea instead of sanctum and the disciple that set off the explosion said “i do the shepard’s bidding” so like the shepard told to
@vicentiuXeduard
4 жыл бұрын
From a tactical stand point, it makes sense to send him somewhere were it's safe and he would be isolated. After they defuse the situation, they may want to pick him up without much trouble. Octavia was not cooperating and even if she was, they might want more minds to explore to gather info.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well it might be, but part had to be a simulation, the vision with Bellamy without his beard had to be one.
@Li_theking
4 жыл бұрын
I had the EXACT same thought. Anders had no intention of sending Bellamy back to Sanctum. He opened the portal to Etherea. I believe that was their intention the whole time. I was thinking he may have been hallucinating because of the scorpion. But that may be a reach. I’m even wondering if Bellamy has a secret agenda. I just can’t believe that Bellamy is still that impressionable. Your theory is good though.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
If he is hallucinating why would he see the shepherd in his exact current state and form? Or how?
@Li_theking
4 жыл бұрын
What the Geek Like I said, it may be a reach. I think Bill Cadogan was actually there- maybe a projection of some sort. Although, I don’t have that theory fully formed yet. But I can tell you my thought process. I apologize in advance because it’s kind of a lot. If Bellamy is tripping balls he wouldn’t know the difference between who was real and who he was hallucinating. He felt his mom touch him. The same way when Diyoza went into the anomaly and she felt her daughter’s hand pulling her through the anomaly. She’s never laid eyes on her daughter before (as she hadn’t been born yet). And yet here is this little girl pulling her along. It could be spiritual but then we have to assume that Bill Cadogan has good intentions. He had Becca killed, so I would think not. I have a feeling that Bill Cadogan is just trying to be prepared for whatever is on the other side of that bridge. He puts himself in cryo while other people do the work for him. How else do you get people to keep working no matter how many hundreds of years it takes? And he’s still alive to see what’s there when they do crack the code. I’m not immediately convince by that language Jordan was reading because it always reminds me of Becca’s book. It was just her journal of scientific discoveries. But the Flame keepers took it as religion. I just ask myself, why is it that the people of Bardo NEVER tried to contact the people of Sanctum? They had the bridge. They knew how to work it. They sent people to Penance. They sent their dead to Nakara. The shepherd apparently had a pilgrimage on Etherea. But no one EVER explored Sanctum? Not even Bill? No one on Bardo or Penance? The Alpha team got to Sanctum around 2045, brought Josephine back in 2070. The people had been on Bardo since 2054. They even had Sanctum on their map. But we’re supposed to believe that no one knew about the people on Bardo or vice versa. You mean to tell me that they choose Octavia and Co. to be fighters in their “last war” but made no effort to recruit anyone on Sanctum. Bill Cadogan is playing a big game here in my opinion. I ask myself- if they only got as far as when Clarke put the flame in her head when they were in O’s head, I wonder if Anders came up with a different plan to get Bellamy to cooperate. I do believe that Anders was pulling a lot of the strings. But Cadogan is the mastermind. If this series has taught us ANYTHING, it has taught us that people create false religions to serve their own purposes (I.e. The Flame, City of Light, The Primes). Bill Cadogan desperately wants get that code. What better way of finding out what’s beyond that hidden bridge than making people believe its for the greater good? I also ask myself, why is it that every time anyone goes through the anomaly, they end up right beside the portal (Not necessarily the stone). But when Bellamy goes through the portal, he ends up at the bottom of the mountain in the woods, several miles from the portal. Maybe you can control the coordinates of where you end up, but I can’t say for sure.
@abdullahsafi643
4 жыл бұрын
They made the bridge thing so complicated that no one can make a story about it with no mistakes!
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well I don't think they made mistakes there, I think it was a simulatuion.
@Thelordofdawgtown
2 жыл бұрын
I only ever watched 1.5 series of this show so I'm kind of just sitting here like: 🤔
@GallivantingD
4 жыл бұрын
Bellamy would not have lost his memory without a suit. Octavia, Echo, Diyoza, and Hope have been training for months on Bardo so time seems equal.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't he? And I am more focused on helmet than suit but why wouldn't he?
@briandaleske5139
4 жыл бұрын
I really, really like this theory about episode11 from Season Seven of (THE 100) show series, and it is because it makes a certain amount of sense to me. Now I can imagine that there might be a place on a planet that is setup with allot of highly advanced technology; That is designed to be used to confuse someone, and manipulate situations as the best way to getting people to think what they see is real in certain places, along with what they feel is real when it isn’t in certain places, and to add I can imagine that the technology could have a third ability that is to go into any person’s mind while they are asleep to better confuse & trick the person as well. In addition so that way in the end they will think the way the cult Leader known as (The Shepherd) wanted them to think in a precious way without that the person realizing that they have been manipulated, and tricked into thinking the way he (The SHEPHERD) thinks.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I can see that being the case, it was just too fake to be true.
@ThePunikaTV
4 жыл бұрын
On point 13: pretty sure bellamy spent about 3 months on etheria, the same amount of time that passed on bardo since he fell trough the portal. So I don't think there is a problem. While I'm on that topic, does someone know the time dilation between Bardo and Sanctum? Or aret hey pretty much the same too?
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be so sure, the hair growth itself says otherwise.
@ThePunikaTV
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek Bellamy himself mentions that they have been there about 2 to 3 months
@baasilmalik222
4 жыл бұрын
Since etherea moves faster than bardo, when Bellamy would return to bardo, he wouldn’t remember anything from etherea; thus, it must be a simulation of sorts.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
That too, however we need verbal confirmation it moves faster even though everything else kind of indicates it does.
@caseiroportugal
4 жыл бұрын
I believe that place is where they send doubtful believers to make them really believe in the sheppard.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well still some of it is not about sending them, I mean for the love of everything that is pure and holy, do we really believe that the Shepherd is so Godly, he appeared to Bellamy in his current shape and form in a vision/prayer/hallucination without this being simulated in one way or the other?
@caseiroportugal
4 жыл бұрын
@@WhattheGeek I'm actually agreeing with all you have said. What I'm saying is they have that place prepared for that purpose and that's why they sent him there. I think it was all simulated just like you're saying but I do believe that place wasn't set up just for Bellamy but it is a place they use for making doubtful believers believe in the Shepherd . That's why before Bellamy was caught in the blast, the Shepherd went to the stone and put the codes for Etherea.
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Oh I thought you believed that it is the doing of the place with no interference from Cadogan.
@stresimirovic9195
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else thinks there's a connection with She-Ra, Great Rebelion and the Horde?
@WhattheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
I personally don't, unless you mean a similarity then I would not know
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