I stumbled across Ivan Illich thanks to the educational work of Neil Postman, and it had a profound impact on me, inspiring everything from a critique of “the college monopoly on credentials” to an analysis of how the “medium” of classrooms are structured like “trivia shows.” As the years pass, Illich is proving only more prophetic. It's wonderful Nina is teaching this course.
@CastleClique
3 жыл бұрын
Nina’s lecturing ability has greatly improved since her first appearance on the podcast. it’s inspiring to see her grow as an academic and intellectual.
@GodwardPodcast
3 жыл бұрын
There's a really interesting chapter in Melville "The Confidence-Man" about conviviality where the hinted insight is that you have to do it in order to have friends, but in doing it, you risk being conned/subverted. Chapters 28-30 or so.
@pseudonamed
3 жыл бұрын
I love Illich’s “Tools for Conviviality”. It’s an interesting frame for choosing which technologies to embrace and which to be wary of, from a really human perspective
@Djordj69
3 жыл бұрын
illich really has something to say to our hopless dystopian times
@GiantArtProductions
3 жыл бұрын
Nina is looking gorgeous as always, tell her to come back to twitter, I miss her :(
@stangoff2216
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to all for this. Sorely needed. Y'all rock.
@stangoff2216
3 жыл бұрын
communiversity
@Djordj69
3 жыл бұрын
how about a course on marx ?
@thomassimmons1950
Жыл бұрын
I'm 65 year old retired, Fly-over, Deplorable, Missouri-mule, and I am in love with this woman...her mind, her gracious, gorgeousness being.
@JAMESKOURTIDES
3 жыл бұрын
Nice. Great choice. Godspeed on this project, Justin.
@charlesstanford1310
2 жыл бұрын
Nina Power and Ivan Illich: a dream team. Thank you for this!
@hirooonoda441
3 жыл бұрын
based and Illich pilled
@cannaroe1213
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't had a bell notification for 3 weeks - wtf youtube!? Also Justin hasn't put all that much out in weeks. Hope you're doing good Justin we miss you ;-)
@Libertariun
Жыл бұрын
Something I do is to keep a text file list of the channels I listen to, and under their Videos menu, look for all the new videos KZitem has stopped alerting me to. Gets around their algorithm.
@dethkon
Жыл бұрын
Love Nina!
@Rednines
3 жыл бұрын
That bit about Pods at 12:00 or so bears striking resemblance to Paul Goodman’s notion of how schooling might work! Not surprising either that Goodman and Illich were colleagues and coconspirators
@thebiologicalrealist
3 жыл бұрын
Really? David Cayley just published a major work on Illich? That fascinates me. The first time I remember hearing about Illich was in a multi-part radio series Cayley did for a Canadian Broadcasting Corp show called Ideas sometime in the 80s. I used to be a regular listener to ideas, which featured lots of work by original thinkers in those days. That turned out to be a brief golden age, and Ideas (I don't even know if it's still on the air, though it was for decades) soon degenerated into just another propaganda outlet for managerial liberalism. Impressive that during all these decades, while I've wandered down so many different intellectual pathways, Cayley has apparently been dedicated to deepening and distilling those provocative ideas of Illich to which he'd first introduced me nearly four decades ago. And watching this discussion between Jack and Nina reminded me just how in debt I have been to Illich in the specific choice of paths I've taken over all those years. Thanks for this.
@unitedstatesofpostamerica7559
2 жыл бұрын
There was an interesting talk recently where the former Governor of California, Jerry Brown, spoke about Ivan Illyc, in regards to COVID policy.
@franciscomorejon6936
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin thank you so much for your work re-inventing the liberal arts, is there a way we could connect?
@calvinmondrago7397
2 жыл бұрын
This is really rather good. Thanks!
@dorianwalker1408
Жыл бұрын
Would like to hear aarvoll discuss his ecclesiology more. It seems like his perennialism is fulfilled in writers like Ratzinger and de Lubac, who express more coherently both the universality of Christ as logos and the exclusivity of Christ as the Church. It seems to me that you can’t embrace tradition and rituality in the Christian context without taking on the magisterial authority which Jesus seems clearly to have left behind in an institution.
@noiseforthealgorithm4668
3 жыл бұрын
Love for Nina
@EWOKakaDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
I think a discussion between Joel Davis and yourself would be interesting. Check him out
@kalleskaviar25
3 жыл бұрын
RAWR!
@fnono33
3 жыл бұрын
quirked to say the least.
@chrisyoung2179
3 жыл бұрын
The synthesis of Post-Liberal and Centrist Anglicanism 😆. Nina found the exit out of somewhere on the left side of the castle
@GeorgeDunn399
3 жыл бұрын
I thought his first name was pronounced Ee-vahn, with the stress on the second syllable. Are you sure you're pronouncing it right?
@bozoc2572
3 жыл бұрын
Christ as imagined by Ivan is more of contemporary Christian Christ(as in organic living religion) rather than Christ as historical figure- historical figure that isn't so interesting
@RuskSophia-h8d
11 күн бұрын
Johnson Larry Garcia Sarah Walker Cynthia
@weeb3277
3 жыл бұрын
@7:26 are you guys trying to recreate university? didn't someone important say "If you are coping someone you already lost."
@addammadd
3 ай бұрын
3 years later, realizing this was what this commenter accomplished *after editing*
@addammadd
3 ай бұрын
3 years later, realizing this was what this commenter accomplished *after editing*
@thegoldenthread
3 жыл бұрын
David Cayley interview, when? His recent book on Illich is essential.
@chrisyoung2179
3 жыл бұрын
Once I saw Charles Taylor wrote the forward I had to order it
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