Great video. We have an interesting situation here. Those who make Tet Debo, are incentivized to buy/use these min price hammers, thus drying up the supply of Tet Debos, yet the demand will increase, especially when the box in 2 weeks gives out bases. Thus the days of getting a min priced (in the price range) tet Debo are over, thus delaying the time until Debos get to that mid 60 billion price. While the hammers are sitting in plenty of quantity as we speak, what happens when less than say, 40 are on the market, and the demand for hammers outstrips supply.
@johnlennon7005
4 ай бұрын
from today's update: This item will be removed during the Nov 27, 2024 maintenance. * This item cannot be used on accessories added between the maintenance on Apr 3, 2024 and Nov 27, 2024
@svetkopetko5158
4 ай бұрын
i bought one at 37 and one at 27 bil.. i didn't consider how many new players are in game that are years away from pen debos..
@Ragnar--
4 ай бұрын
a lot of people are hoarding that;s for sure
@pinie111
4 ай бұрын
They're actually sitting on EU still, crazy.
@emeukal7683
4 ай бұрын
Theres 2k sold each day, happy ppl buying.
@user-ob8nq3uw5c
4 ай бұрын
its not really crazy, do you know how much it would cost to buy all of them?
@emeukal7683
4 ай бұрын
@user-ob8nq3uw5c 4.5k sold, 2.5k left on market. U can do the math. Im a pleb i cant buy them all and due to low pen debo cap its a bad speculation item. Ill simply sell at 45b+ or tap myself.
@Symcy
4 ай бұрын
@@user-ob8nq3uw5c 2541 in stock and 4462 sold as of right now ... even at lowest price that 192 trillion of silver. Crazy!
@kertosyt
4 ай бұрын
Trillions is putting it lightly
@crescent-3666
4 ай бұрын
i was waiting for you to talk about this item haha
@KyoudouMaya
4 ай бұрын
i mean you could also say you pay a premium to remove the 40% downgrade so you pay 40% extra of the vendor crons, which will also put the value at around 50b
@mikebytheway
4 ай бұрын
For anyone that missed it, he already included the no downgrade in the math
@Miragent
4 ай бұрын
if 70% players are all in the 720+ GS then this item will definitely goes up, but seeing just how small percentage of the people with this GS overall, I think the price will sit at min price for at least the next 6 months
@dudedavid34
4 ай бұрын
There's 2600 in stock currently on NA w/ 2742 trades total in just a couple days so I think your analysis is incorrect. The people selling the hammers only get one the people buying them could need who knows how many to hit their Debo/Debos.
@Finnyzation
4 ай бұрын
Fact you can jus tap tap tap on it with no downgrade, its worth less than cron cost currently, thisll go up to the value of crons and then higher, whales are buying, rich get richer
@Hawke-nd8yd
4 ай бұрын
I highly doubt 70% of people that play this game are above 720gs
@DJSvenDee
14 күн бұрын
Update: 4 months over, on EU still at minprice ;)
@Miragent
14 күн бұрын
@@DJSvenDee exactly what i said
@DiaborMagics
4 ай бұрын
And it's sitting on market pretty much min listed. I was shocked with infinite pots with how little people value their time spent, but I'm even more shocked now. Even just calculating vendor crons and not the rest you're gonna see that it's so much more than the min price. Buying outfits is a fantasy on EU though.
@chris_hisss
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown!
@nick11925
4 ай бұрын
much appreciated vid, thank you
@vessel_vision
4 ай бұрын
Yoooo thanks for this brother!!! The analysis we all needed!!!
@Saiku
4 ай бұрын
I told you. Nobody listens to me :(
@bowchicabowwow467
4 ай бұрын
im holding on to mine until I gets higher price and scarce lol
@allexffs
4 ай бұрын
does it not get deleted tho ?
@SirMsuni
4 ай бұрын
@@allexffs Nope
@LuNg1196
4 ай бұрын
it will in Nov @@SirMsuni
@kingsoflucis1939
4 ай бұрын
@@LuNg1196 no it will not after you collect it you keep it
@SirMsuni
4 ай бұрын
@LuNg1196 The ability to claim it will be removed in Nov.
@shield6687
4 ай бұрын
gonna stock as much as i can, on my sv SEA pen debo isnt sold that much(actually rarely sold) so with hammers and x2 300fs its much more easy to get 2 pen debo.
@KeniSIX
4 ай бұрын
Pro tipp: lower your AI noise cancellation or if u use noise suppression/noice cancellation lower thoose. Some times a little bit noticeable cuz your mic activating a littlebit later and the first word of your sentence sounds a lilbit strange.
@k3wld3wd95
4 ай бұрын
I was able to login early after the maintenance, and sold mine for 38 billion... thanks PA
@user-xv4sl3kg2d
4 ай бұрын
also ppl might have free even 150+ hungers to 250 and tap,
@Rocityman
4 ай бұрын
How is this man getting 280 stacks for 15 bil? I need a tutorial.
@DJSvenDee
14 күн бұрын
same here. thought it cost x3 at least
@DJSvenDee
14 күн бұрын
seems its with pen reblath. so for all others its more like x3 x4 the costs
@naoseiplay5203
4 ай бұрын
40B I WILL SELL MINE
@xuras2943
4 ай бұрын
for 20b ill buy yours
@cryptidian3530
4 ай бұрын
@@xuras2943 27.5B is minimum.
@ikki_404
4 ай бұрын
Only worth for pen debos
@coffeeteapvp5512
4 ай бұрын
I’m curious how the changes bringing guaranteed success after multiple failures will affect future prices.
@Rora-Mohan
4 ай бұрын
pitys are so high you alreeady lost double or triple the market value when you reach it, so it wont really do something
@marcusvinicius4144
4 ай бұрын
What is your opinion about these market changes and ease of deborekas? I feel that PA is killing the market more and more every day, our profits from enchants going down the drain. A game without a market is a dead game, only enjoyed by those who spend 10 hours killing the same mobs forever.
@victorleon4794
4 ай бұрын
New player benefit from this math, I hope it goes to at least 40 B in NA and 50 B in EU
@SleepyMongoose
4 ай бұрын
I calculated based on value per tap as compared to costume crons and came out to the same ~41b silver value on hammers. Having biohack getting the same value gives me more confidence in my calculation haha.
@PotionShop
4 ай бұрын
Thank you the breakdown. Was curious if my napkin math was close... it was. tyty
@SheepeyDarkness
4 ай бұрын
Very insightful video, thank you! I'm glad to have timed the market and sold at NA's peak of 40.4b. Unless PA changes anything I honestly do not forsee these hammers going up past this price. Suppy may be limited but demand will drop as the few people who can afford to tap pen debos make their debos. As you mentioned, there are other better avenues for enhancing for profit too. Would take 90 people using 280 stacks for every single attempt, completing the whole set, and each spending ~756 billion on hammers for all to be sold out. Ofc this is oversimplified and price will gradually go up as hammers are purchased and not everyone will use an ideal stack. Thoughts?
@biohacktv
4 ай бұрын
I think they will stay at a very low price for quite a while. The supply is just so much higher than the demand. I do think they will eventually go up but it could take a long time.
@mukavelli
4 ай бұрын
I think the event only last till November, the hammer is a new Item that will be given at events or even available for crafting. This might be one of the changes that PA wants to add to the enhancing system, if crafting is possible it will require Cron Stones definitely. So, buy while is at min price.@@biohacktv
@senkyou
4 ай бұрын
I will buy as much hammer as possible now that they are 27500 only as minimum. Then only sell them at max price 50,000 later
@biohacktv
4 ай бұрын
Good luck!
@MackieQuadra
3 ай бұрын
i Used 3 now and all failed they should just put 10x pitty
@leontran2344
4 ай бұрын
Many players are selling it at 27bil. I don't know what they're thinking.
@dakurisu3431
4 ай бұрын
They thinking they want the money now and not later i know a few people who are grind stuck and this just essentially auto completes it for them. I'd still hold onto it but still.
@chadlife5573
4 ай бұрын
I find it hard to believe that avg attempt of 6.9. is this just the player's favorite number? because im at my 11th attempt now XD
@cvvquoell
4 ай бұрын
ur just unlucky
@DJSvenDee
14 күн бұрын
ye thats unlucky. but 14,5% at 280 stack is 6.9 attemps in avg
@qzzqz4963
4 ай бұрын
this is your function for deboreka cost with crons (from your spreadsheet) =(D16*G13+D21*D22*G13)+(D14-D15)*G14+D14+D19 can you explain why your downgrade cost is (D14-D15)*G14+D14+D19 ? u adding tet debo and failstack price to donwgrade chance and then multiplying it by the difference between tet debo and tri debo price, which doesnt make sense to me your downgrade cost is higher than what base tet cost isnt this more correct : =(D16*G13+D21*D22*G13)+(D14-D15)*G14, which would turn average cron enhanccing to 288b (no fs price included) =(D16*G13+D21*D22*G13)+(D14-D15)*G14+(D19*G14) = 324b with fs price at 15b
@Belial-jv5tq
4 ай бұрын
Finaly someone who can do basic math to alert people. Some youtubers had such garbage takes and advice for viewers saying they should sell their hammers, and the hammer was only worth buying for 30bi max, lol just with a basic math sense I felt like that couldn't possibly be true, then I did the math like you did here, and indeed it wasn't true at all. People from EU and most smaller regions shoulda absolutely go for the hammer if they're gonna enhance their Debos now.
@prodigy6427
4 ай бұрын
the "garbage take" I was hearing was if you are not going for pen debo sell it, which pretty much is a good advice lol
@cain7925
4 ай бұрын
choice haha
@dominic120
4 ай бұрын
I aswell only heard people saying sell it if you dont use it and that new players should sell it if they can get decently more profit while grinding with investing the silver they get, which isnt wrong at all
@Kellodar_Gaming
4 ай бұрын
The video we all been waiting for
@GhostRagzz
4 ай бұрын
good video :)
@ShadeCaBr
4 ай бұрын
TLDR: yes they are.
@KatieKatastrophee
4 ай бұрын
Based
@Kovac_
4 ай бұрын
"How much is this worth?" "Yes it is" Huh?
@DJSvenDee
14 күн бұрын
depends. Pen Debo earing sitting in EU (now 4 months later) at 256b. production cost with the sheet at 259b ... market flodded here with bases sitting on market for nearly ever debo, and over daytime sittion PENs on market.
@freakso1
4 ай бұрын
i tap my first pen debo on 26th atempt... 326fs
@SgtSykes
4 ай бұрын
Eu they will rise to max 100% in some weeks
@taiyo8623
4 ай бұрын
When do you think that these hammers will run out from market?
@biohacktv
4 ай бұрын
Really hard to say. I would guess it sits for a few months.
@ArmedAndHammered
4 ай бұрын
A lot of the youtube/twitch react Andys have already convinced most of the BDO playerbase to sell theirs. Until the real data begins to circulate, they're going to sit for quite a while.
@darionfei6770
4 ай бұрын
Today i got my pen Debo necklace with hammer
@emeukal7683
4 ай бұрын
What about the opportunity cost of not grinding while failstacking for tet stacks after downgrade?
@biohacktv
4 ай бұрын
That's embedded in the value of the TET.
@emeukal7683
4 ай бұрын
@@biohacktv THX!
@quelmaco9243
4 ай бұрын
Much appreciated analyzis!
@Finnyzation
4 ай бұрын
Ill keep mine at 36b then
@slickvic21142
4 ай бұрын
Was looking forward to this! Thanks BioHack
@top4o00
4 ай бұрын
Hammers in EU are sold for 27.5 bills at the moment there is 1000+ on the market...
@sun0369
4 ай бұрын
👍 will hodl it.
@JAE-yq3bz
4 ай бұрын
Lol you only made this video to increase the price of these hammers. you horde a fck ton and want to resell when it goes max price. Cant fool us cuhs
@Xerathiel
4 ай бұрын
Bdo has like 2k people who care about gear.
@MichaelMacaluso
4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Do you think it's worth it to try and flip these considering they are perishable?
@DrSwazz
4 ай бұрын
You would see Biohack mass buying hammers in that case
@MichaelMacaluso
4 ай бұрын
Biohack has access to a lot of methods of making silver. He wouldn't do a lot of things im doing right now for income @@DrSwazz
@mrityumara
4 ай бұрын
not really, the item will deleted at november , unless u got ton of IV debos and stacks to exit via selling V i dont think so
@biohacktv
4 ай бұрын
It's very very risky. I probably won't.
@fardrives
4 ай бұрын
Is enhancing in BDO essentially porn for math nerds? 😅❤
@top4o00
4 ай бұрын
More people should make V debo so the price can go down and people can buy it for 150 bills for example because lets be honest 300 bills its way too much for just one bis item
@ec5400
4 ай бұрын
So in conclusion for an EU player, wait until it hits max price? xD
@ZeBescht
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for breaking this down. Gonna save my hammer till they get more scarce
@PunkJiuJitsu
4 ай бұрын
Hearing 6.9 attempts for a PEN Accessory is absolutely delusional 🤣 🤣 🤣 I’ve blown up ON a AVERAGE 17 Tri’s going for TET with a 27-30% chance to pass….. now you are talking about slicing that to half that % and you’ll get it in 6.9 attempts?! 🤣 that is NOT how RNG works bro. Every single time you smash the chances are STILL a low % chance. That chances does NOT increase because you get another smash…..
@Papa_Roach92
4 ай бұрын
TET with 30% chance is 1 into 3/4 tries on average. That's math. And you're unlucky. All this happens. Just like dice throw does. Throw a dice, if it's SIX you got pen debo, all others are fails. That's the 6.9 attempt average to get it.
@cain7925
4 ай бұрын
blame ur rng noob hahaha
@philiptky5310
4 ай бұрын
He is going at 14.5% per attempt, at 6.9 attempt he is looking at 66% success chance in getting one. If you are 17 attempt at 28% you are looking at 99.62% chance of getting one, well above the required taps. Luck must really be not on your side.
@PunkJiuJitsu
4 ай бұрын
@@philiptky5310 that’s been my luck since launch man….. I’ve been tempted to sell my Xbox for another one just to create a new account and see if that makes a difference. I’ve got buddies that have made 2 accounts and reached 700+ twice before I can even get 650 😂 But yeah, my comment was to shed light that statics is more complicated than the “math” that people are claiming here. It’s not like the system knows you’ve tried enhancing 1, 2 , 3 or 49 times….. if it says 5% chance then it’s a fking 5% chance each time…. So yeah it’s possible to fail way more than you’d think. I think many have proved that already
@dg6095
4 ай бұрын
Sold mine at 44bill got my pen neck and I've bought 2 of them at 27bill ea 😂 gonna stock up
@PrinceArtemis
4 ай бұрын
IM. At 28 bill and it wont sell :(
@emeukal7683
4 ай бұрын
Ur educated to be here, listen, evaluate, take ur offer off market and let the morons get ripped off.
@Hzyp
4 ай бұрын
@@emeukal7683although depending on what gear stage you’re at in the game, it may be better to sell for min price for better gear to increase grinding silver/h
@Hzyp
4 ай бұрын
as compared to waiting months. i guess it depends on how much you play cause for me it was worth it
@trysephiroth007
4 ай бұрын
How do you even get a 280 stack?
@JkennGG
4 ай бұрын
Raw click pen bs
@biohacktv
4 ай бұрын
Fail PEN Reblath from 90-280.
@user-wp5xe7pw7j
4 ай бұрын
красава ,уважения
@cain7925
4 ай бұрын
i burn my 400b on hammers lmao
@y_strikes2770
4 ай бұрын
Get a life dude
@othahex
4 ай бұрын
Keeping up with BDO tradition, just another fail for me.
@arek7893
4 ай бұрын
The beginning of end of game
@user-fx9eu5hw7u
4 ай бұрын
It will go down below 10bil for sure
@defuze56
4 ай бұрын
min price is 27b
@scolamiero28
4 ай бұрын
how do you feel about the new pity system coming to enhancing like lost ark has? lame af imo
@RunicGG
4 ай бұрын
Worst take this year.
@biohacktv
4 ай бұрын
I'm just waiting to see what it looks like before I make a judgement.
@scolamiero28
4 ай бұрын
@@biohacktv fair , certainly fair im going to jump the gun and say its poop , i hope to be wrong
@emeukal7683
4 ай бұрын
Let me give u the most likely outcome: similar to lost ark and other games it takes the edge off or rather makes u feel like it would. Nothing will change in reality since everyone gets it and u always desire what others have.
@dominic120
4 ай бұрын
With the numbers they published, it will literally have next to no impact on anyone else, just the really unlucky few
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