What I love most about this video is that Hodinkee put out a reference points with millions $$$ of Daytonas on a table and a few days later, Tim and Jack put 3 glasses of water on a table and smash it out the park.
@zetoch
Жыл бұрын
I love how no watches are at the table and they’re not even missing. And best of all there is not a single drop of snobbery at Watchbox.
@bobmclennan1727
Жыл бұрын
I see apples and oranges. Hodinkee's video/essay was an exploration of the minutiae of the evolution of the Daytona. This video is a look at how that history informs current cultural perception. Frankly, I think the two videos work well together: Hodinkee's is a detailed encyclopedia entry, Watchbox's is the modern essay on the same sujbect. (full disclosure: I don't care much for a lot of the changes going at Hodinkee lately, but there's still some quality work being done over there. Reference Points in particular is a valuable and well-structured resource.)
@antjrice1
Жыл бұрын
@@bobmclennan1727 I agree - not suggesting it's binary and I enjoyed both, but I have no doubt the Hodinkee release influenced Watchbox to get something out quickly with a deliberate and therefore cheeky focus on their A-players. It's a mighty and telling coincidence otherwise.
@yonchrr
Жыл бұрын
@@antjrice1 wrong.
@dannysimenauer5745
Жыл бұрын
Jack forgot to take his water dunking bird with him to WatchBox though.
@조던1
Жыл бұрын
great to see Jack featured on these videos, especially with Tim. Thanks for all the awesome content.
@HRM.H
Жыл бұрын
Tim , Mike and Jack. The holy trinity of watch related presenters. (Honorable mention; Marc from WatchesTV)
@davidr2802
Жыл бұрын
Marc brings such a love for watches you can feel it.
@valebliz
Жыл бұрын
Marc is great.
@heljestrand
Жыл бұрын
Marc is the FP Journe of watch commentary but nicer
@zetoch
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Marc is an incredible craftsman of the best watch content out there. A collab between him and those 3 dudes would be out of this world.
@Konsaliki
Жыл бұрын
We want to see more of Jack!
@CharlesBukowski0
Жыл бұрын
Jack and Tim! The dream team!
@LuisOrtizMBA
Жыл бұрын
Love to see Tim and Jack
@zetoch
Жыл бұрын
Right there we have the definitive dream team of watch nerds. Jack finally has peers of the highest caliber. This just feels right and it is awesome.
@SoCalWatchReviews
Жыл бұрын
These 3 guys killed it 👏 I really enjoyed this video!
@dsvillalva
Жыл бұрын
Finally a Mike and Jack collab!
@watchnorthlondon
Жыл бұрын
The Rolex Trifecta at work. The salesman, the philosopher and the lexicologist. Restating kinda what we know but then deeper and insightful from unexpected angles. They are in themselves influential.
@weezkidtube
Жыл бұрын
So good to see two titans in one place.
@davidr2802
Жыл бұрын
Tim is great as usual, but Jack elevated Mike who when alone with Tim or others is usually the "like", "I know" guy. Well done.
@DrewskiOne
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Mike was always there to add his passion for Rolex and his life’s experience to the conversation.
@FlashbackArrest
Жыл бұрын
These guys are the creme de la creme. I’m always in awe at the encyclopaedic retention of Tim’s, but here I have to agree that the sub is more influential. The datejust is more iconic (I’m surprised they didn’t mention the cyclops) but the submariner has defined a genre of its own in terms of looks.
@kingflum
Жыл бұрын
Yes!!! The cyclops deserved a mention for sure 😄
@DrewskiOne
Жыл бұрын
Jack is a wealth of knowledge but I liked the intimacy of Tim and Mike. They really riff well together in a way that is lost with three speakers.
@the1916companywatchreviews
Жыл бұрын
It's not a permanent setup. Jack's making the rounds on existing features before settling into a regular program he'll co-host with me. Best, Tim
@valebliz
Жыл бұрын
@@the1916companywatchreviews nice
@zetoch
Жыл бұрын
@@the1916companywatchreviews the 3 of you guys work so well. Loved every minute of it.
@jcj2718
Жыл бұрын
finally, a Jack Forster sighting!!! Thank you!!!! Might he contribute some written work in the future?
@valebliz
Жыл бұрын
He already wrote a couple of articles.
@jcj2718
Жыл бұрын
@@valebliz thanks for that. I only see the one where he was introduced as part of WatchBox on the app. I’ll check out the online site.
@jw999
Жыл бұрын
Wow, didn't know they were acquainted!! Very cool.
@007-i6z8v
Жыл бұрын
Awesome "around the table" talk guys! Hope to see more... Rolex is king;)
@off-roadingcars
Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this format. Thank you so much for getting the 3 most knowledgeable people in the industry together, around a table, to talk watches. Please do more of these, maybe a deeper dive into the Submariner or Daytona, maybe another brand like Omega, or maybe the dive watch rivalry between Rolex, Omega, and BP.
@MrPolowu
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim and team
@omarion07
Жыл бұрын
I think many of the loud mouths on social media the constantly bash Rolex and reduce it nothing more than a marketing company need to watch this video and learn some facts. You don’t need to love Rolex but you need to at least respect their history if you’re a true watch enthusiast. Thank you to Mike, Tim and Jack for this amazing video.
@jamiesieu801
Жыл бұрын
Spot on! What an amazing discussion.
@valebliz
Жыл бұрын
Respect their history? Yes. Being thrilled about their current watches? I can’t.
@kevco01010
Жыл бұрын
Holy trinity of watch knowledge
@halebopp5332
Жыл бұрын
Always love these informal chats👍🏻
@mdinhlam
6 ай бұрын
Love those photos hanging in the background! Wonder where they got them from!
@jethrojacinto2798
Жыл бұрын
Good to see Jack Forster on the WatchBox team!
@baroh2413
Жыл бұрын
The Datejust is the most iconic Rolex. Forget about the hyped "professional" models
@YongJoonPaek
Жыл бұрын
ok this is just next level content wth
@alfredmani1461
Жыл бұрын
Fantatsic to see Jack join the team. Very enjoyable listening to this discussion. You can only buy so many watches, then you can spend time enjoying listening to good content while your plan your next purchase. Happy Holidays!! ✌
@robertm.9633
Жыл бұрын
Tim had a good point. I came of age in the late 5 digit era. When I think of Rolex, I think of and love 5 digit era pieces over anything modern.
@Rocking70s
Жыл бұрын
Always waiting for a new episode. Never. Disappoints.
@Theo-ul8qm
Жыл бұрын
Loved this discussion! Had no idea that the Zenith Daytonas were so in demand as to be sold above retail even when they were still in production. I do think, though, you guys might be downplaying the Daytona’s mertis as a watch. While I agree that it hasn’t had the influence by imitation that the Sub or Datejust had, I don’t think it’s as unexciting a watch as it seems you guys do. The 4-digit Daytonas’ combination of contrasting subdials, tachymeter bezel and (maybe most importantly) screw-down pushers and full bracelet seems to me like it was as ahead of its time as the 5711 was in 2006 (actually, a lot more so). Having all these features together surely adds to their value and popularity exploding today.
@jmbaug1229
Жыл бұрын
DreamTeam Talk 💫
@petrokersta5293
Жыл бұрын
I’d also mention Rolex bracelets: oyster, jubilee, presidential. It just completes the archetype of an everyday sports watch. A metal bracelet is now a default go to option as oppose to leather or canvas.
@dannysimenauer5745
Жыл бұрын
One can argue that the Rolex Submariner is the most influential watch since it is essentially the same design and sells well to today' watch collectors. Using a Rock and Roll reference, the Sub can be compared to the Beatles music appealing to another generation of music fans. Hell, even my classical music loving mom (may she rest in peace) loved the Beatles! Although, I could argue that the MOST influential watch, which was not discussed, is the GMT. It was designed for Pan Am pilots at the beginning of the continental/inter-continental travel age. It was practical, could be used by non-pilots as well. All three current models, the all black bezel, Pepsi, and Batman are fun& durable watches to wear everyday. Case closed. IMHO.
@jongoodman7563
Жыл бұрын
Jack and Coke watch content never fails.
@skyworks1621
Жыл бұрын
So glad to have a new Submariner date from the AD. But when I put my Omega seamaster 300 on a ruber strap I always ask myself which dial is superior and Omega is just a bit more funky and vibrant.
@jaredlacorte1
Жыл бұрын
I’m play drinking game , take a shot every time Manjos says iconic I’m shitfaced after 5 min
@m.halcyon5772
Жыл бұрын
You guys need an intern with a sticky roller to keep the dandruff at bay. Helps to focus the content.
@shaqfufu8908
Жыл бұрын
Love watchbox crew but honestly how many more videos about Rolex do we really need ?
@pepecosta2410
Жыл бұрын
I just wanna say THANK YOU guys. 20 minutes of joy. Better than sex. 😂 Joking....
@ryanelectra225
Жыл бұрын
Quite a trio of knowledge here!
@fauxpas2067
Жыл бұрын
Masso, Manjos, and Foster are the new Clymer, Foster, and Barrett. This new triumvirate is interesting, engaging, and educated.
@zetoch
Жыл бұрын
And not pretentious. These guys are the real thing and so down to earth and approachable.
@nk2ti
Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ Tim is a human watch enciclopedia 🤯
@structurescience
Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@herbmerced7780
Жыл бұрын
Such good stuff!
@369MatteGrey
Жыл бұрын
Please don’t ask Jack to do A Week On the Wrist video. Nice shoes Jack, by the way.
@Nefville
Жыл бұрын
Its a shame that Rolex has this wonderful legacy but if someone were inclined to purchase a piece of this history for themselves they can't and the result of that frustration has been pointed at the brand (deservedly so). Its basically impossible to separate the brand from the baggage, waitlists, AD games, thefts, grey market wheeling and dealing ;D, it just goes on and on and what I wonder is how does that affect their legacy?
@derosa1989
Жыл бұрын
As long as collectors keep thinking "hard to get" is a criteria that makes them lust after models, Rolex will play the game.
@dannysimenauer5745
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I know something about Rolex that this esteemed panel forgot! The Daytona was never a popular watch until Paul Newman was caught wearing his Daytona 6239 on camera. Then all of a sudden sales took off and the Daytona is still popular today.
@BB-gl7zt
Жыл бұрын
4:05 I thought it was the 6538
@NikonFM2n
Жыл бұрын
❤I can't thank Rolex enough for my 42mm HULK from Steinhart. I love it. Thanks Rolex.😎
@dlrides
Жыл бұрын
Where did Mosso’s t shirt come from ?
@dlrides
Жыл бұрын
Never mind, found it !
@fauxpas2067
Жыл бұрын
A Blog to Watch
@animarku570
Жыл бұрын
13:00 can’t believe how poorly they came up with this description officially
@jsanchezp
Жыл бұрын
Watch box should hire Cara and Stephen, then the dream team would be complete
@leoncaine3900
Жыл бұрын
You guys should let us know what’s on your wrist for these videos
@animarku570
Жыл бұрын
6:44 Wait what? RolexAir-King Cartier Precision?
@valebliz
Жыл бұрын
Totally uninterested in Rolex but still good content. Hope to see Jack chime in for something less hyped and more niche.
@essential328
Жыл бұрын
Truth about the Daytona, is that Italians are the most Stylish people in the world, and Italians have launched the trend to have a sport watch in the luxury spot. Everyone wanted to be Stylish, everyone wanted to be Italianish… If you can see 1/3 of the world owners of Daytonas are in Italy, on Chrono24 there are the same amount of Daytonas in Italy as in the whole US. As the same was for the Royal Oak and the Nautilus. Thanks Italians!
@valebliz
Жыл бұрын
Mah
@thlee3
Жыл бұрын
the only question is … why did they shutdown WATCHVILLE!?!?
@saymyname218
Жыл бұрын
Richard dreyfuss talks watches.
@cos-9113
Жыл бұрын
Submariner is hard to be the most influential since they copied, with differences, the Fifty Fathoms feature set. A watch derivative of another can’t really be influential. The Daytona doesn’t have anything that anyone else really was influenced by it. It has become popular simply because it is hard to get, and a lot of celebrities have one. As a watch, and as chronograph it is arguably one of the worst out there: with the screw down pushers it is hard to use, yet no more water resistant than non screw down pusher; it failed against the Omega Speedmaster, initially, in the marketplace; and as a watch it just is a poor design, much harder to read than really almost all its competitors-Omega, Breitling, Breuget, Zenith, any number of Flieger Chronos, etc are all much more useful timepieces and stopwatches. Would have to agree with Tim that the OP or Oyster Date were far more influential that the other two. But surprisingly, you left out the GMT Master/II which really created an entirely new category of watches, one which almost all brands now provide in their catalog. When you have created a watch category, it’s hard to argue that wasn’t influential. And along with the Submariner, it defines Rolex for a vast number of the population. Great discussion though, and one with no answer, just good opinions.
@queensbuilt-timewilltell8200
Жыл бұрын
Start Studded collective group for watch enthusiast.
@LukeFerg117
Жыл бұрын
16:36 "The Daytona has been an over retail watch since it was launched" Im pretty sure it hasnt been? Im pretty sure it was a bit of a flop when it launched?
@omarion07
Жыл бұрын
Go back to 12:13 and listen again. I’m pretty sure they were discussing exactly how the Daytona was a “flop” when it’s first came out. And Mike was referring to the “Zenith” Daytona that has been over retail since it was launched.
@LukeFerg117
Жыл бұрын
@@omarion07 ahhhhhh I see, my bad
@MoritaJunichiro
Жыл бұрын
Used watch on Yahoo auction?😂 Which watches do sports people like?
@jeanlefranc3817
Жыл бұрын
As always, Mike, with little efforts, trumps Tim on the sartorial side. Can’t the Watchbox afford a dress consultant a few hours a week to make their lead salesman not look like a teenager who stole a jacket from his father’s wardrobe ?
@the1916companywatchreviews
Жыл бұрын
But, but, but... I wore this just for you, Jean! Best, Tim
@tomasinacovell4293
Жыл бұрын
Before I watched this I had thought you guys where professionals?
@omarion07
Жыл бұрын
Why? Too much praise for Rolex not sitting well with you?
@Nefville
Жыл бұрын
Sic [where professionals] I can help with this, Philadelphia Pennsylvania. That's where the professionals on screen are. Well maybe not Mike, he's actually "back in Philly" for this video so has probably already left.
@tomasinacovell4293
Жыл бұрын
@@omarion07 But I'm not trying to wound any's Elk. And that the pullover's dial is at least a 3rd larger than where it should be, but it must be scaled to fit Ariel, that way.
@valebliz
Жыл бұрын
@@tomasinacovell4293 wtf is your point?
@tomasinacovell4293
Жыл бұрын
@@omarion07 Non, plus 90 degrees, it's just that they;'re puritanical and not much to look at, and really nothing there, and the watches have become more like these guys now.
@jayebirdjb7143
Жыл бұрын
🥱
@ads-porewealth96
Жыл бұрын
Such odd little men
@davidr2802
Жыл бұрын
yet here you are watching such odd little men. I think you might need some professional help.
@0728451031548270jeff
Жыл бұрын
Tim where did you get that T-shirt and what a great interview! Got started with Rolex from the TV show SeaHunt, starring Lloyd Bridges, he wore a gold Sub. That show also turned me onto scuba diving as a hobby. I bought a Waltham that looked like a mini Sub, that I still have to this day and was close to 60 years ago, non functional at this point. Yet my first real watch was a Rolex gold GMT Master that at the time listed for $1,350.00 a gold Sub didn't come till later.
@anonymousonlineuser6543
Жыл бұрын
12:53 So today Daytona should cost (inflation adjusted) a hair over 2000. Yet it cost 7 times that. Which means Rolex is pricing their watches 60 years into the future.
@gmshadowtraders
Жыл бұрын
The heavyweights in the watch world gathered around one table! What more could you ask for!
@gmshadowtraders
Жыл бұрын
12:29 - And the truth comes out! Well done bro
@rodsalvador3608
Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see Hodinkee, an editorial publication, become a watch dealer, as Watchbox, a watch dealer, becomes an editorial publication. Enjoyable discussion, thx!
@frankm4129
Жыл бұрын
What’s this guy talking about Detona boring come on
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