Jack Johnston was bad ass my grandad sold him a news paper when he was doing a European tour my grandad was 11 years old stood selling news papers on Preston railway station at the time . My grandad used to say to me he was a lovely well spoken man very polite and well dressed. I've got a news paper cutting to prove this , my grandad was his greatest fan RIP GRANDAD RIP JACK JOHNSTON 🇬🇧🇺🇸👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@medaanhil4133
4 жыл бұрын
Your grand dad sounds awesome. R.I.P.
@462904
4 жыл бұрын
Say less sorry I’m crap at spelling 🥴👍
@462904
3 жыл бұрын
Angel Soto thank you God bless you 🙏🏼👍🏻👏🏻😊
@medaanhil4133
3 жыл бұрын
@@462904 having not grown up with grandparents myself but fortunate enough my kids did I know how important grandparents are.
@matthewholden3823
3 жыл бұрын
Great story man
@theangryconstitutionalist583
2 жыл бұрын
The reason Dempsey was inactive for three years is because he had a huge falling out with his manager, Doc Kearns. Kearns was contractually obligated to get 50% of Dempsey's fight purses (standard back then), and it was an ironclad deal that Dempsey would have to follow. Which means he'd have to give half his money to a guy he wasn't even working with anymore. Their fighter/manager contract didn't expire until September 1st, 1926. As a result, Dempsey had to wait until after that date for his next title defense, which kept him out of the ring for three years, and also cost him his fight with Harry Wills, which they had signed a contract to fight in 1924. They were trying to get the investers together for the fight when Kearns & Dempsey had their big blowout, over Kearns immense hatred of Dempsey's wife Estelle Taylor, and her hated of him. Dempsey finally had to choose, and of course he chose his wife. That loss of his manager caused all those problems that now hurt his legacy, because modern day stat-obsessed fans just look at his record, and don't dig further to find out what actually went down. Dempsey wasn't going to risk the biggest title in the world and be forced to give half the money to someone who he was no longer with. But that is how those contracts were back then- they totally favored the manager and screwed the fighter.
@taharqa1831
Жыл бұрын
Nope, the truth is he was dodging Jack Johnson, but in the end it didnt't help much, as he was beaten up the same way and had his A$$ smoked in front of all white Amerikkka.
@shaneculkin7124
8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this important correction. This is very, very good to know! 👍
@_penguin_9946
2 ай бұрын
50 percent of the purse is crazy like bro your just my manager. Dude is not even fighting in the ring and wants half the fight money. 💀
@ZakAmbrose
3 жыл бұрын
Those were true men back then...Wish we had footage to study. Dempsy proving he would fight anyone. As Tyson said, he likely fought more fights in his lifetime then anyone as most were unofficial...
@williamoleschoolarendt7016
2 жыл бұрын
My father told me that Dempsey had a few backroom fights that were only seen by the rich! Rich people would put their money together and the winner would walk away with the pot! Jack Johnson the same way! What gets me is that with all of their money no one bought a camera and recorded the fights!
@schumi9xwdc
2 жыл бұрын
He ducked Harry Greb
@handzofstone1152
Жыл бұрын
@@schumi9xwdc He definitely didn't
@taharqa1831
Жыл бұрын
Fougth against Neandertals Vagabonds like him! when he faced a BLACK MAN he soon had his A$$ smoked🚬
@mixtureofthingsmixtureofth2311
4 жыл бұрын
Dempsey said in a interview that Johnson was the greatest glove blocker of all time
@ericpledge1
3 жыл бұрын
Johnson was a good defensive boxer.
@callumlittle3201
3 жыл бұрын
Because his hands were as big as shovels
@georgewhite6052
3 жыл бұрын
bi
@joedoggie9098
2 жыл бұрын
you were there for that interview?? so you are about 132 years old?
@Markzuckfuckerburg
Жыл бұрын
@@joedoggie9098 🤦newspapers exist shitass
@ChuckRosseel
4 жыл бұрын
I just checked with Gianni Russo. He said the fight did occur. In fact he said he was there cornering Jack Dempsey and that T. K. Kirkland was in Jack Johnson's corner.
@who1718
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@RicanBrownBear-gd5jc
3 жыл бұрын
Chuck Rosseel this guy😂😂
@orlandoanderson123
3 жыл бұрын
I heard it was a kickboxing match
@zaneryan786
3 жыл бұрын
It was a Muay Thai match. Chuck Norris was the referee.
@rampantcolt
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@honeysucklecat
4 жыл бұрын
I had never heard of Jack Johnson until I was 40? And yet, considering what he did, he should be someone everyone knows about. Gee.....I wonder why.....
@stonelove9048
4 жыл бұрын
You weren't looking bro. I been knowing about him since a kid. And I'm 46. There's plenty material on him
@mikelucey5035
4 жыл бұрын
@@stonelove9048 I knew of him when I was a kid, and I`m 70.
@CRAZYHORSE19682003
4 жыл бұрын
How many kids today have heard of Jim Thorpe, Walter Johnson, etc. 40 years from now people won't have any idea who Joe Frasier was.
@damianayre2130
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, there wasn't anything secret about him. But that bullshit of "The Great White Hope" made me sick to my stomach when Larry Holmes was the champ.
@somerandom7672
4 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of Jack Dempsey until a few days ago. Gee.....I wonder why.....
@DannyisBro
5 жыл бұрын
My uncle sparred Jack Dempsey back in the day. He's extremely crafty.
@1980bwc
4 жыл бұрын
Who was your Uncle?
@GG33_420
4 жыл бұрын
Shut up you're uncles all shit
@nationalcitysycho
4 жыл бұрын
@@1980bwc A MYTH OF HIS IMAGINATION..LOL
@nationalcitysycho
4 жыл бұрын
SURE & MY UNCLE WAS JACK JOHNSON.
@GG33_420
4 жыл бұрын
@@nationalcitysycho bahahahahaha
@tugginalong
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve read that Dempsey praised Johnson as a great fighter. I’m reading Dempsey’s book now and he states that he actually weighed 180 when he defeated Willard.
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
I've read that too. Makes sense as Johnson is considered the best boxer of his prime, though a Dempsey type fighter with explosive punching technique and superior footwork would give him trouble.
@philly0976
3 жыл бұрын
Johnson was built like an NFL Linebacker!
@tyskyy44
3 жыл бұрын
He was 6 foot 210 pounds, he just wasn’t a small fuck like everyone else back then
@johnd.597
3 жыл бұрын
@@tyskyy44 everyone back then had no modern nutritional knowledge. Today, Johnson would probably be 6’4 and 240.
@whitneywilliams317
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnd.597 ah, same height as me, I'm 6"4 275Ib tho
@whitneywilliams317
2 жыл бұрын
@Sleepy Joe oh yeah? What am I then lol?
@whitneywilliams317
2 жыл бұрын
@Sleepy Joe how's that make me insecure? You came out nowhere and had to point that I'm not the height that I am, what does that make you?
@poloblack2364
4 жыл бұрын
When Jack Johnson started kicking ass George Dixon was on his death bed. A boxer in a different weight class who had over 700 fights!! Wow
@lt7082
4 жыл бұрын
Did he have all his mental faculties intact?
@RaulsTacos
3 жыл бұрын
L T Most boxers did, especially the old school fighters
@_saucyam_
3 жыл бұрын
Where did u hear Dixon fought 700+ fights?
@josephnissenson3252
3 жыл бұрын
@@lt7082 he died at 38
@lt7082
3 жыл бұрын
@@josephnissenson3252 : I just did some research on this boxer and he seems to be one of the best boxers I've never heard of.Apparently he used to sometimes fight 15 times a week and was champ for ten years.
@chadspeaks1162
4 жыл бұрын
Dempsey was quoted as saying "Johnson was a combination of Jim Corbett and Joe Louis. I'm glad I never had to fight him." Dempsey's fights became rather infrequent after he won the title and I really doubt his shrewd managers would have let him fight someone as dangerous as Johnson unless there was some serious money involved.
@Hugh_Morris
3 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't have let him fight Johnson because he was black, period. His managers and promoters wouldn't have let a black fighter face Dempsey under any circumstance after Johnson's reign a few years earlier. It wasn't until mild mannered Joe Louis came along that a black fighter got another shot at the belt, 22 years after Johnson had lost it.
@jxmamba9331
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about all that it was an old Johnson vs a prime Dempsey
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
Quote source? not being sarcastic I am genuinely interested.
@ronmailloux8655
2 жыл бұрын
if this ever happened it could never be kept a secrete for long. Dempsey had everything to lose and nothing gain surely the battle scares of fighting Johnson could not be hidden. Dempsey almost fought black slugger Harry Wills but due to the color line among other issues it never did. I think Wills was a fight Dempsey could have won because he came right at you as opposed to the crafty Johnson even at 43.
@daveyboy_
2 жыл бұрын
They never fought
@vibecheck4623
4 жыл бұрын
Jack Jackson , Jack Dempsey, Mike Tyson and Julio Caesar Chavez where giants of boxers
@michaelwilson939
4 жыл бұрын
Evander gets slept on too
@nimaisaren5996
4 жыл бұрын
Tyson! Are u kidding?
@allendobbs4154
4 жыл бұрын
Giants? You mean like everybody knew about them or what, cause Tyson was most def not a giant in a physical sense.
@adelinared1
4 жыл бұрын
Allen Dobbs I don't know about that one. Do you think you would go in the ring to spar Tyson?
@DoggieNYC
4 жыл бұрын
Your skipping a lot of great fighters that are greater than both Chavez and Tyson. i loved Chavez though, Tyson too but he let me down, flash in the pan.
@nondumisosthembile2904
4 жыл бұрын
One of the best lion kings of all times in 1920s
@roberthockett270
3 жыл бұрын
Given the 17 year age gap (same as that between Tyson and Holmes in 1988), and given that Willard had easily taken out Johnson and then Dempsey had easily taken out Willard, a Dempsey win wouldn't be surprising here. More interesting would have been a bout between both in their primes. In that case it's hard to imagine Johnson not winning. It probably would have been a bit like Foreman vs. Frazier, with the bigger and stronger man who also had phenomenal grappling and tie-up skills quickly wearing down and then vanquishing the smaller, 'smokin' fighter.
@BladeRunner-td8be
4 жыл бұрын
As much as I admire Jack Dempsey common sense tells me if they both were the same age Jack Johnson would have been victorious. Jack Johnson even today if he was in his prime would be a fearsome fighter.
@TOMsideways-nt6tx
4 жыл бұрын
Common sense isnt one of your attributes
@BladeRunner-td8be
3 жыл бұрын
@das wright First you tell me to "get over it" then you go into a diatribe about racial injustice in the U.S. and for the record I have listened Ali talk about Jack and I'm also better educated than most on the subject of racial injustice. I lived side by side with blacks for many years while in my troubled youth. I could tell you things even you probably aren't aware of concerning the injustice you mentioned. You are preaching to the choir here. I have a B.A. degree in The Humanities from WSU in Washington State which is a top college in the U.S. Anyway thanks for your comment I guess but it didn't deal one iota with what I said. Cheers
@BladeRunner-td8be
3 жыл бұрын
@das wright My apologies. I didn't know how the comments work on KZitem.
@BladeRunner-td8be
3 жыл бұрын
@das wright Thanks das wright. You saved me from making that embarrassing mistake again the future so I am in your debt. Cheers
@Ijustinsultedyou
3 жыл бұрын
Fearsome fighter today huh ? Stick to checkers, you clearly know more about it than boxing even if you’ve never played it before.
@RicanBrownBear-gd5jc
3 жыл бұрын
I thought Jack Johnson was the most amazing until I saw Jack Dempsey videos. That man hits so much harder than Jack Johnson. So much faster and so much more ferociously
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
Johnson was good for his time, but dempsey was way ahead of his time punching, combo and footwork wise. A match against the two in prime makes me think Dempsey wins KO/TKO within 10 rounds. Also the 1921 story was a fantasy match in a newspaper news.google.com.au/newspapers?id=BONQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9P8MAAAAIBAJ&pg=1844,3630691
@johnconnell4503
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha. FUNNY
@winrylust6947
2 жыл бұрын
no
@handzofstone1152
Жыл бұрын
@@johnconnell4503 And true
@handzofstone1152
Жыл бұрын
@@winrylust6947 Yes
@akbarwalton3193
5 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL work bruh,again you the man for this type of video amazing intentions and results I love it,for what it's worth
@jordantaylor9457
3 жыл бұрын
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" - Jack Johnson
@proudamerican1933
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@davida.4933
3 жыл бұрын
That's confusing...j/k
@Repunza
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@davidmccann9811
Ай бұрын
Can you imagine if Jack was around in this Internet age? He would go into overdrive, especially at the pressers. 😂
@TheHostingBing
3 жыл бұрын
I heard these two boxers had great respect for each other that is why they did not speak of this fight I bet it was one hell of a fight I always respect my opponents and why would you not. you both are good enough to be in the ring you earned the right to be there god-bless both of these legends may they both rest in peace.
@APOCALYPSE_X-MEN
5 жыл бұрын
My favorite fighters are Jack Johnson and Muhammad Ali. Great upload. I'm not convinced that this bout occurred either, but if it did they knew that a 43 year old over the hill, ring rusted, slightly overweight and prison rotted Johnson would be at a disadvantage against prime Dempsey.
@davonbenson4361
5 жыл бұрын
2 RAW 4 TV. Yeah, Jack Johnson would’ve gotten his ass whooped in this fight. He was too old during that time.
@solidcake3401
5 жыл бұрын
Is it cause you're racist?
@LarkinIQ
5 жыл бұрын
solid cake They didn’t mention shit about race. Johnson just had so many disadvantages against him now Prime Johnson probably would’ve won this fight.
@kieronmccorquodale6682
4 жыл бұрын
In his day Johnson no doubt, but coming from a bare knuckle bare knuckle fighting family. I don't think in hell chance that this fight happened, dempsey had way too much to lose, that's not saying he wouldn't have beat him at that time. Respect two both fighters
@logan9847
4 жыл бұрын
You're not convinced because your boy got beat up by Dempsey.
@dwaynejones1146
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for not forgetting these old time greats,and doing the work to give many of us even who knew the sports history,info that most of us simply never bothered to research ....I always felt Johnsons ability to stop a fighters offence,would have frustrated Dempsey,and make him, non effective as it did fighters before him,and allowing Johnson to score those hard uppercuts inside.
@BladeRunner-td8be
3 жыл бұрын
Dempsey is one of my all time favorite fighters and during his prime he destroyed people in the ring. People who in some cases were MUCH bigger than he was. My knowledge of Johnson compared to Dempsey has me believing even the great Dempsey would have fallen to Johnson had they fought in their primes. Could be wrong though.
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
@@BladeRunner-td8be Can't see it, Jack J would get JD into clinches but JD would do what he often would do and begin landing body shots, likely breaking out of most clinches. Jack D had superior footwork, dodging and explosive, fast punching technique, Johnson was strong and had good stamina. Would be a good match, but doubt JJ could handle JD's technique. Theres a reason Dempsey is considered the first modern boxer.
@steelproven
5 жыл бұрын
Damn ,This was some real good shit blood , well thought out content . Love from Pittsburgh
@antwi313
5 жыл бұрын
Great video Blood, keep them coming...🤔👍
@josephshields2922
3 жыл бұрын
Nat Fleischer , Ring Magazine editor, saw every fighter in person from Johnson to frazier and before his death rated Johnson the best he'd ever seen.
@rsoria64
4 жыл бұрын
If they had fought in their prime I think Johnson would have used his size and defensive skills but Dempsey was one relentless warrior. It really would have been a true great event.
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
Johnsons main defense was to get opponents into a clinch because of his often superior upper body strength however Dempsey would probably use that to land body shots and break out of most clinch situations, Dempsey was a defensive master himself, as inventor of the bob and weave style which relies on dodging and tactical footwork. Would be a good match, but can't see Jack winning in most scenarios.
@Joker-qh7fq
3 жыл бұрын
Dempsey had same size of Johnson
@harrygreb3457
2 жыл бұрын
Johnson would beat very few champions that came after him, maybe Braddock or Primo or someone as pathetic, but he ain’t beating Dempsey
@freeyomnd_619
5 жыл бұрын
This is a great video🔥🔥🔥I just became a new sub. Excellent stuff OG.
@darkskindwayne1790
5 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO BLOOD!!!!
@scaramouche8244
4 жыл бұрын
Johnson was a counter puncher, doesn't seem like one in this story.
@christophermclean3921
4 жыл бұрын
43 year old Johnson vs 26 year old Dempsey. 🤔. Not a fair one at all. Looking at Johnson he really was hard to hit.
@WJet444
4 жыл бұрын
If you read the article, at the end it says that the editor of the Saskatoon Star claims neither Dempsey nor Johnson were in town at this time. The article ends with the writer saying that the person who gave the account of this story should be writing fiction.
@Pat4HUMANITY
4 жыл бұрын
One would think if it had happened, some word would have gotten out about it long before now.
@RicanBrownBear-gd5jc
3 жыл бұрын
TTheSnirk I almost agree with you but what you are saying is not true. Jack Johnson almost never was shown in the public light because of his color. When he beat the heavyweight champion of the world in his first attempt, the police stopped the match and the news reporters turned off their cameras. So the majority of his career was literally unseen. I am a Hispanic male. And with that being said, I still would give every dollar that I have to bet that Jack Dempsey would have destroyed him If they actually fought
@anonanon1237
3 жыл бұрын
@@RicanBrownBear-gd5jc aha jack Dempsey would get killed Johnson gave him a tough fight at 46 if it was a prime Johnson Dempsey is dead
@soundchaser56
3 жыл бұрын
@@RicanBrownBear-gd5jc From what I have read about Jack Johnson, he couldn't not be in the public eye. He was driven to get al the attention and adulation he could. If there was a fight between he and Dempsey, Johnson would have played it for all he was worth. HE needed money, badly, when he got out of prison.
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... it was a fantasy fight here is the original newspaper article news.google.com.au/newspapers?id=BONQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9P8MAAAAIBAJ&pg=1844,3630691
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
@@anonanon1237 Except the story was completely fabricated and originally released as a fatasy fight for the readers enjoyment (link below). Stylewise, Jack D had better footwork, and far superior punching technique and use of combos. Jack J was probably stronger, and may have had better stamina. Both had a good defense (JJ using clinches and JD's bob and weave) though I think JD has the edge due to his ability to land body shots in clinches thus making JJ's defense backfire, and JD was simply a far more technical boxer, and had a "new" explosive punching style that was unseen in Johnsons era.
@meck9040
5 жыл бұрын
This a great got damn video blood. Great work.
@garynewis8293
3 жыл бұрын
Love Dempsey & Johnson,both impressive characters
@LEGENDARYTOPCATZ
5 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO RETRO 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@JWEST.
5 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is dope ish homie. Had no idea. Salute Salute Salute Blood. Thanks for this gem.
@streetztalkboxing4221
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't gotten a notification for this channel in almost a year! I dam near forgot about it! Glad ur still doing ur thing Old G!
@retroboxingdocumentaries4817
3 жыл бұрын
i remember you...thanks for checking out the video
@matthewdean8070
4 жыл бұрын
Good vid...can't wait for more content
@dondonitall
5 жыл бұрын
Great documentary Blood 🔥🔥🔥
@kartzstormstool861
4 жыл бұрын
the narrator of this documentary sounds like the inmate who called the fight between Ving Rhames and Wesley Snipes in the fictional movie Undisputed.
@marianng3950
2 жыл бұрын
Watching this after you mentioned in on Bruce's live Blood. This is why I love this game, you can live and breathe it every day and yet there's always something new to watch, read or listen to. Respect man
@bryans1566
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent work as usual.. Appreciate it..
@Manchester-wp7gr
4 жыл бұрын
Well done retro boxing!! I’m glad that you’re a true boxing historian and like to study the original iconic super stars of the sport from the early beginning. We’re talking about the legendary boxers such as; Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey and even before there time going back even further to the likes of John L Sullivan in the mid 1880’s who was also really popular in his day. However this video has some really interesting information and holds some excellent parts of boxing history In which I wasn’t aware of up until I seen this video. It’s always good to add to your boxing knowledge as you can learn something new everyday. More so this is definitely a subject that I will strongly study myself in the near future as I find the old school boxers fascinating due to their life stories and experiences that they have gone through. They have been through so many obstacles and events in there life time because of the times they were in which makes there life that more interesting. Most of them have got versatile and exciting personality’s to go with there life story’s making them all unique and different in their own ways. Last but not least I have always wondered what it would of been like if those two ever fought in the ring, and I have always wondered why they didn’t end up fighting in the ring as they were both practically in the same era. This situation has always bothered me and intrigued me a lot but I haven’t ever got round to putting in my time and effort into studying what actually went on. It has always had me thinking but now I have a base on where to start from due to your video which has helped a lot. Lastly I just want to say thank you for uploading this video as it was really interesting to hear, and also hearing your aspects on things which made it a good quality presentation. I just want to say keep up the good work and continue to provide us with more interesting facts and boxing history, thanks very much. 😎👊🏽 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@JuniorTheTruth
5 жыл бұрын
Yesssssir! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@mjstotalhealthandwellnesse346
5 жыл бұрын
Great video blood🔥👍
@jrhammond95003
4 жыл бұрын
both great fighters! you never know who will win until they are within those ropes.
@LOZZDPUNCHOUTTV
5 жыл бұрын
Lost for words Brother 👏👏👏👏
@beeznuts22
5 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative❗️
@ramo2342
5 жыл бұрын
Very informative Blood. I really enjoyed it.
@nufforme
4 жыл бұрын
Great piece. Very thorough investigation.
@ceemillz215
5 жыл бұрын
Great video Blood
@aubzman89
5 жыл бұрын
Great video retro.
@mr.mr.2222
5 жыл бұрын
Blood...this vid is lit...Great Work Bro.....
@scrapbookboxing1094
5 жыл бұрын
WOW , Great work Retro. Very nice
@ShaderockLouis
3 жыл бұрын
Liked the story and appreciate the research done to compile this video.
@anthonystitt7015
3 жыл бұрын
Great job with this video!
@fish32ify
3 жыл бұрын
Great documentary cant wait to see more
@SuperTommyi
4 жыл бұрын
Great story. Thank you for sharing this
@allenmanvil7225
4 жыл бұрын
Great vid Blood
@toddfrancis8428
2 жыл бұрын
Great show!!!
@k6151960
4 жыл бұрын
The video kinda ties you to history. Times seemed different back then but maybe more like today than we think. Great video!
@squirrely8527
5 жыл бұрын
Good shit, Blood. I never heard of this story. Thanks for sharing, even if it didn’t happen.
@fannonboxing
5 жыл бұрын
Great epidose! I take Johnson if Dempsey's gloves aren't loaded like with Willard.
@mightymo9441
4 жыл бұрын
I agree brother jack all day
@nomadman1066
4 жыл бұрын
Real shit Fannon
@leviclark3822
4 жыл бұрын
Really Dempsey had loaded gloves...sorry if I missed that...everytime I watched the reels...I saw one man destroy the other no mention of loaded gloves...need to look it up. Thanx
@k.rick_9993
4 жыл бұрын
Fannon International Boxing Channel Dempsey’s gloves weren’t loaded. That was a lie made up by Willard’s team to excuse him getting beat up by a smaller man.
@timothyhughes1904
4 жыл бұрын
@@leviclark3822 Willard certainly made mention of it; as later did Dempsey's former manager, Dock Kerns.
@in2deepsosa371
5 жыл бұрын
Johnson 🇲🇽
@boxingguru100
5 жыл бұрын
Oh great upload I didn’t know that happened I’m somewhat skeptical honestly that it did but it is a great story you and the professor a.k.a. boxing info along with myself have forgotten more about the sport of boxing the most people know
@jamalharden
5 жыл бұрын
Great video bro!💯
@level2boxing749
5 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro
@mj4hire
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent piece
@shawncurtis1000
4 жыл бұрын
It's possible for Dempsey to have been known by many names. Many will balk at him being called the 'Utah Mauler', saying "That has to be someone else, Jack was known as the 'Manasa Mauler'". What they don't realize is that Jack Dempsey did spend time in Utah during childhood and early adulthood. 7 of his first 9 pro fights took place in Utah, 8 of his first 9 if you count Pocatello, Idaho, which is practically part of Utah, being a little less than an hour north of the border. Anyway, my point is that perhaps him being called 'Utah Mauler' isn't so far fetched. 'Manasa Mauler' sounds much cooler though.
@BladeRunner-td8be
3 жыл бұрын
Correct. Manasa Mauler has a menacing ring to it and it rolls off the tongue easily while saying it. Utah Mauler is humdrum with almost no excitement.
@shawncurtis1000
3 жыл бұрын
It was either that, or "The Mormon Mauler".
@tankgainagrip4951
5 жыл бұрын
Great work blood!!
@elnick1000
5 ай бұрын
I had read a book on Dempsey, and their is no mention in this book that Dempsey had a private fight with Johnson. I did read that Joe Jeanrette tried to get a fight with Dempsey, before Dempsey became champ.
@davidpierce201210
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@strickyboiwonder
5 жыл бұрын
Very informative vid blood
@germanicusternus1982
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@torinowens6103
4 жыл бұрын
Prime for prime J.J. Wins against J. D. By knockout!!! 1love
@kingmaster1241
4 жыл бұрын
Dempsey too good
@jxmamba9331
3 жыл бұрын
Dempsey humiliated the boxer that knocked out Johnson so idk bout all that
@therealc.t.7085
3 жыл бұрын
@@jxmamba9331 dive
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
@@therealc.t.7085 0 proof of a dive. Footage shows him clearly pass out and his hands drop after the match. No shame for JJ IMO as JJ would have taken Willard on a beatdown trip 5 years earlier. Johnson being, somewhat out of shape and getting older simply was tired out after that many rounds.
@rebelliousredneckvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
Can't see J.J lasting more than 10 rounds tops against J.D due to Dempseys superior footwork and punching technique. J.J would best use his clinch defense style though J.D would probably land his explosive body shots thus getting out of those clinches and then landing hooks directly after getting out. There is a reason J.D is considered the first modern boxer, his technique, use of combos and inventing of the bob and weave would be too much,
@terrencemiller5284
4 жыл бұрын
Great Doc here. Thanks
@retroboxingdocumentaries4817
4 жыл бұрын
thanks a great deal....i have another Jack Johnson Doc in the works
@michaelmccool1183
4 жыл бұрын
@@retroboxingdocumentaries4817 great commentary,you know your shit.made me think??just subscribed,keep up the the good work sir👍
@detreyusbetts2596
5 жыл бұрын
Great video brother
@g.o.d.zilla77
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video 👍🏿👍🏿
@alanmulder351
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video and narration.
@rolandobridgeforth
5 жыл бұрын
Damn Bloodboxing. This was deep brother.
@kincamell2
3 жыл бұрын
Much Gratitude
@wunademonesboxing8319
5 жыл бұрын
Great info
@thomasscheuring4195
4 жыл бұрын
Thak you for this . I naver know ABOUT this.
@carljacobson7156
4 жыл бұрын
This story sounds like Bullsh*t - Dempsey was already the Champion and a wealthy man. Dempsey respected Jack Johnson, but there was no money for Dempsey in fighting an over-the-hill Jack Johnson. The most dangerous black challenger at that time was Harry Wills and Dempsey was supposed to fight Wills, but the Promoter's Check bounced and the fight was cancelled.
@mattpoochi6964
3 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting! History is so obscured!
@tintomara6209
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly,he was the first million dollar fighter,why would he participate in so so seedy and shady at that stage of his career?
@petesimmonds8846
4 жыл бұрын
Prime v prime, I think maybe Johnson would have done to Dempsey what Fury did to Wilder ( second fight). I would have loved to have been there! Great video man, all the best.
@emiller9426
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff!
@noahherrera5118
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love boxing history
@BomaniUFG
5 жыл бұрын
Read “unforgivable Blackness”. Great book about Jack Johnson. This documentary is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. I’m subscribed! Keep up the great work!
@geraldfriend256
4 жыл бұрын
Best bio on Johnson hands down.Great movie of it.The pbs doc from 70s is also excellent, on you tube with original score by Miles MF Davis.
@jluvbaby
4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather spoke on this fight and said it happened. Also there was a newspaper article on ebay years ago that reported on the fight.. I didnt have the money in those days to buy it.
@franksnyder1357
4 жыл бұрын
Using language I understand. Thank you. Two of the best. Me in the ring with the two Jacks.....Ouch for me.
@maintain.faith.3657
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how much untold historical facts is out there waiting to be rediscovered
@mudspelledbackwards2997
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely INCREDIBLE narrative on this highly INFORMATIVE short 21 minute documentary. Dude didn't waste a SINGLE sentence with pointless babble. Every PIECE of dug up information ties together nicely to tell the story of how this fight may have happened. Which in my gut I COMPLETELY believe did happen. It just all makes too much sense for it to not have happened. GREATEST RESPECT to Jack Johnson & Jack Dempsey. Two top notch men with high character and integrity.... not to mention TOUGHNESS.
@ibmor7674
5 жыл бұрын
Bravo excellent bro!!
@michaeljohnsonboxingtalkan866
5 жыл бұрын
He had alot of stories for us i bet to
@igorstein5616
5 жыл бұрын
The fight never happened they would never have kept that a secret ,either one of them
@otisgreer8429
4 жыл бұрын
One fight I would have love to had seen.
@roderick778
5 жыл бұрын
Hidden History, Respect Blood.
@andyperkins2523
4 жыл бұрын
🤔 hard one here. Both great fighters, brawlers, survivors, tough as nails and they also brought a different style to the ring and where ahead of their times for sure.
@retroboxingdocumentaries4817
3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@alexduran1967
2 жыл бұрын
There was never a time when they were in their prime together. If they were, you'd have a master of defense vs a master of offense. If anyone could deflect Dempsey's relentless aggression, it'd be Johnson. If anyone could break through Johnson's endless defense, it'd be Dempsey.
@germanicusternus1982
3 жыл бұрын
This fight reminds me of Tyson Holmes in many respects.
@SALIM86
4 жыл бұрын
Two amazing boxers
@bulldogshark
5 жыл бұрын
42 would have been 82 , living that life at those times.
@bulldogshark
4 жыл бұрын
@Billy Bob Thornton heard a Who didn't think any reasonable person would take this coment seriously? Myth debunked.
@bulldogshark
4 жыл бұрын
@Billy Bob Thornton heard a Who That's awesome news.
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