Jade is just hella green in the ring but besides that she looks like a mega star
@billjohnson113
2 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest and this ain’t me hating on her but I’m gonna say they should’ve had her in NXT first to start of first to build herself up from all the hype WWE gave her and not so far early into the main roster without having to develop her skill set because as someone who’s been watching WWE for a long time now sees a lot of her flaws she has to get basics down and develop from here. That’s why they pair her with Bianca to take her under her wing to show her the ropes and get used under theWWE system apart from her previously coming from AEW. She’s a beautiful, fine, and built woman no doubt and got no shade or hate for her at all but I think they pushed her too soon before she can develop herself first to upbuild an establishment for her character and move set to improve in NXT first. Hell even Charlotte, Becky, Bayley, and even Bianca started off in NXT before being called up to the main roster.
@souldrum86
3 ай бұрын
The issue with Jade is trying to make her do so much. I think with her size and personality. She should take things slower in the ring. She shouldn't be doing springboards from the top rope. It needs to be logical with her at least until she's ready to pull off certain moves. I think Jade should be slower and methodical in the ring.
@MWF_figuriene
3 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you. I know she was basically just in squash matches back in AEW but they at least gave her time to breath. They represented her as the powerhouse she is, that's what helped her aura a lot. In WWE, they represent her like she is a superhero that can do all types of moves but that's not what got her into WWE.
@0xyc0dwrestling
3 ай бұрын
she botched on Mania 40. she Botched when she won tag titles at backlash. She botched at clash of the castle😂 God knows what she does at live events
@console72hrs
3 ай бұрын
Supposedly the ropes were loose at Clash, which the ref told AJ at the beginning. But yeah, can't defend the rest of them
@HornAndHaloWrestling
3 ай бұрын
@@console72hrs I think you can defend her though, those ropes can be difficult sometimes, I'm not a wrestler, but I want to do do training to be a pro wrestler, I'll tell you how annoying the ropes are when I get there 👍
@Tajonxv
3 ай бұрын
She’s only been wrestling for 3 years
@0xyc0dwrestling
3 ай бұрын
@@Tajonxv good for her
@Nobody-we7kl
3 ай бұрын
Hater 🤡
@FOF275
3 ай бұрын
WWE really dumbed down Brock Lesnar's moveset over time. He was still awesome even in his later matches, but he's capable of a lot more than suplexes and throws
@takerhulk3163
3 ай бұрын
Most of his matches were cut and paste near the end. Not sure if his idea to do less or Vince and that.
@richardcoffer4758
3 ай бұрын
But Brock was an ameture wrestler. He won trophies. Jade looks good but is uncoordinated and couldnt wrestle if her life depended on it.
@takerhulk3163
3 ай бұрын
@@richardcoffer4758 then his matches were pretty much the same. And if its true turned into a pervert monster
@nightmaremikel
3 ай бұрын
It seems like WWE just abandon the whole good guy chasing the bad guy for the belt formula. The heels that are champions arent really heals, they are still fan favorites who did something non favorable.
@chrisleung6331
3 ай бұрын
She is totally overrated, but can wwe train her to be a true superstar
@Sami1992WFan
2 ай бұрын
I cant see how people can still call Jade green. She has been training since 2018. With the night mare factory. With one of the best in the world. Bryan Danielson. With Nattie at the performance centre. And she is just not getting better. Its been too long. Jade is not a great inring wrestler. She just looks like one
@FernandoMartinez-pv1id
Ай бұрын
This is "The Big Leagues." We dont have time for that. Thry shouldve sent her to NXT then.
@youraveragejoeyt
3 ай бұрын
I agree that Jade has been rushed into things… I was talking to someone recently about this situation… Any other star would’ve been given time in NXT to develop but she’s been rushed into the main stream But when it comes to the botch off of the springboard, I don’t really blame her for that Clash because it seemed like there was something up with the ropes that night. She wasn’t the only one that had a hiccup on the ropes
@billjohnson113
2 ай бұрын
I agree. I’ll be honest and this ain’t me hating on her but I’m gonna say they should’ve had her in NXT first to start off first to build herself up from all the hype WWE gave her and not so far early into the main roster without having to develop her skill set because as someone who’s been watching WWE for a long time now sees a lot of her flaws she has to get basics down and develop from here. That’s why they pair her with Bianca to take her under her wing to show her the ropes and get used under the WWE system apart from her previously coming from AEW. She’s a beautiful, fine, and built woman no doubt and got no shade or hate for her at all but I think they pushed her too soon before she can develop herself first to upbuild an establishment for her character and move set to improve in NXT first. Hell even Charlotte, Becky, Bayley, and even Bianca started off in NXT before being called up to the main roster.
@youraveragejoeyt
2 ай бұрын
@@billjohnson113 everything you said is spot on imo! I agree completely! As you said, no hate towards Jade herself because it’s not her fault that she’s been thrown into the deep end like this but yeah she definitely should’ve been put into NXT first… if anything putting her in NXT would be a way to protect her & to protect her hype… Nothing worse than having all the hype but not being ready to deliver on the main stage 🤷🏻♂️ I feel for Jade tbh
@tvh124
2 ай бұрын
Mistakes or botches happen on moves. But tapping out, that is clearly somebody who hasn’t learned how to “wrestle”
@ChunkyKong-47
3 ай бұрын
You kind of joked about it but I feel like almost every match I see a least one of them has to do a kip up. It’s like there’s some rule that they have to prove they can do it
@j19games24
3 ай бұрын
*Julius Creed enters the chat*
@JacobRavenglass
3 ай бұрын
Wow, you’re right, I have trouble even visualizing Brock Lesnar doing an Irish Whip.
@AssembleWrestling
3 ай бұрын
Right!
@CrispyCrackensCrisps
3 ай бұрын
I mean being for real though I doubt brock is happy about that, he clearly choose pro wrestling when he clearly had better opportunities he's a fan, he would likely be a billionaire and the considered best ufc fighter ever a mix of what in this timeline we think of fador and john jones, which he would dethrone both in their prime brock mighty mouse and Khabib would be the only people in the convo, he's clearly capable of more and wants to do more but he's wasted, likely if he was allowed to do more he would probably stay full time, it's my biggest complaint about wrestling funny enough statically he's the most prestigious wrestler ever by the same stats people say Jordan is to basketball, realistically a full time try hard brock would be considered the best wrestler ever he already has the most summer slam match wins and I think second most WrestleMania wins.
@CDubs007
3 ай бұрын
Pat arguably most entertaining commentator rn besides Book. Him and MC have great chemistry too
@chadwhitten7879
3 ай бұрын
I am not a fan of Booker T as a commentary. He comes across as a less than smart, like when he says some is extra ordinary instead of extraodinary. Extraordinary means: out of the ordinary - unusual, uncommon, exceptional. Whereas, Extra ordinary means: very common, usual, fixed, prevailing.
@Donald18838
3 ай бұрын
And he can go in the ring too
@richardcoffer4758
3 ай бұрын
Pat Mac comes across as a clown. He talks rubbish and then barks or dances because he can't describe what he's seeing. Not good enough.
@Nobody-we7kl
3 ай бұрын
Anyone else find it particular that the two most hated stars in WWE are the big black girls hmmmmmm…
@richardcoffer4758
3 ай бұрын
Who are they?
@megasquidd
3 ай бұрын
100% Agree with the no selling.. i've been a lapsed wrestling fan from the late 90s that just got back into the WWE. i'm loving it, but finishers seem to mean nothing in this new era. If this was an RPG, it would be classic power creep. It also.. doesn't help that a lot of finishers I see do not seem like they would hurt at all.
@richardcoffer4758
3 ай бұрын
Jade isnt over rated anymore. You know what to expect. Might look like a star but cant wrestle for s×+t. Personality without moves. Someone you cant rely on as Bianca learnt.
@JohnnyGobs
3 ай бұрын
Good morning man. If I had to think one dude was overrated to me it’s bron breaker until very recently I thought I was boring to watch just cause it was squash match after squash match and he is a little awkward on the mic. But after his matches with ricochet and the mad dragon I have a lot more respect for the character. I really wanna see him dominate the roster but now with the Wyatt 6 idk how much of a push he can really get.
@Walter-ps1ye
2 ай бұрын
Give her a chance damn, it ain’t easy as it looks
@FernandoMartinez-pv1id
Ай бұрын
This is "The Big Leagues" and youre saying she should be given a chance???? No ones got time for that. This is about money making.
@L1ve2Win
3 ай бұрын
AEW gets a lot of heat for being amateur hour. Jade gets a pass for being in WWE and booked at Mania. I'm just saying if Jade cut her teeth in the indies and did the botch from Clash at the Castle at an indie show. No one would care. But the biggest wrestling promotion in the world you would think the quality of the show and wrestlers should be up. Jade Cargill is 3 years pro and still can't do a match longer than 10 minutes. How long will she keep getting passes? I hate Logan Paul for being too good and other reasons.
@Hexx_Iztenze
3 ай бұрын
On the no selling, one of the worst things for me was in AEW with the multiple Canadian Destroyers spot. It's a front flip into a piledriver, for goodness sake. Yet 3 in a row were pretty much no sold. For me, it just brought me totally out of the match. I think it was Orange and Penta. I love Pentas' look, I enjoy his skill, but that was ridiculous.
@souldrum86
3 ай бұрын
Matches have 0 storytelling now. No ring psychology. Not to mention every match on a show these days mirror each other. No variation. Only high spots and 16-25 minute matches. Wrestling needs to bring back variety to each match. One match might end in count out, or DQ. Or interference. And some matches through heel cheating end it 4-6 minutes tops. We have to get away from every match trying to be a main even banger.
@j19games24
3 ай бұрын
This is one thing I like about MLW. While I have to admit they've lost steam since losing Alex Hammerstone and Jacob Fatu (IMO), they almost always have a variety of match styles on a show. Their show a couple days ago had: -A short match, not quite a squash but pretty one sided. -A technical masterclass between Davey Boy Smith Jr & Timothy Thatcher -A powerhouse vs high flyer match -a lucha libre style match -bull rope match -triple threat match The show was far from perfect but it felt like an actual show instead of a copy/paste formula.
@MWF_figuriene
3 ай бұрын
You're literally my mind which is scary.
@billywatson9821
Ай бұрын
I agree. They need to work on build story lines. Also, they need to build on wrestlers' character.
@WessideVibez
3 ай бұрын
I love JADE but geeeez She kinda sucks . AEW ain’t that bad cause I ain’t see none of this
@kylesteinberg5103
3 ай бұрын
No the duck she’s not she’s overrated because wwe is refusing to give her opportunities
@kadharefinley224
3 ай бұрын
Yeah I understand like “no selling” moves like the kicking out at 1 after taking a superkick, piledriver 450 splash
@mjarviejr
3 ай бұрын
I don’t think Jade is overrated as much as she was overhyped and WWE is using her wrong. Sheltering her in tag matches makes her look less especially when you see her with Bianca. If they kept her as a singles wrestler and a power house and dominate the women’s division, she’d look better. As Matt said, she’s like Goldberg, so book her that way.
@Nobody_PlaysGames
3 ай бұрын
Yea I agree that's what should start their beef they keeping her in Bianca shadow Jade is a stand alone monster
@souldrum86
3 ай бұрын
I have a huge problem with no selling. People think AEW is worse for it, but every week, I watch WWE. I see the same stuff. Modern wrestling is the same in both companies. NWA is the only promotion still wrestling, like the old school style. As for commentary. That's also terrible now. I miss the days of the heel commentators who only supported every heel in the company. It made for a great comedic dynamic. But now, like I've said before. With this push to make pro wrestling feel like boxing or UFC. All commentators call it down the middle. It's boring and given the history of wrestling, more importantly WWE. The commentary is awful now.
@chadwhitten7879
3 ай бұрын
I call the booking strategy of big "man" in weestling, The Road Warriors strategy. Entrance music + Few moves + Doomsday Device= win. That's what WWE is doing with Jade.
@codex0451
3 ай бұрын
Imo, she definitely is. She certainly has the look, but her in-ring skills and promo work still have a long way to go. You can tell she gets lost when in the ring. I dont see her being able to perform as a singles competitor yet. Shell have to stay with Bianca or somebody for awhile longer otherwise they'll really be exposing her that will affect her. Theres women in NXT that are more ready than she is.
@bradmullins9132
3 ай бұрын
Brock Lesnar had to evolve his style and character.
@bradmullins9132
3 ай бұрын
Jericho is overrated and probably overpaid
@Anchorwing.
3 ай бұрын
YES!!! The fact she's in a tag team already and has less solo matches than any other aew crossover should be obvious
@ericmacgillivray537
3 ай бұрын
Disagree jerichos gimmick is working and your reaction is exactly why he is doing it and yet again he is putting two more wrestlers over while you boo him and tell him he's got nothing left lol
@AssembleWrestling
3 ай бұрын
ah ok then
@rileyanthony
3 ай бұрын
As much I really like jade i feel like she needs more practice in ring
@richardcoffer4758
3 ай бұрын
How much practice do you need before they can just be honest and tell her she doesn't have it? Give her a job as a work out coach or something? Her tap out was one bodge too many.
@Nobody_PlaysGames
3 ай бұрын
@richardcoffer4758 it wasn't a tap out Shyna B had the chokehold too tight it was a bad camera shot
@billjohnson113
2 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest and this ain’t me hating on her but I’m gonna say they should’ve had her in NXT first to start of first to build herself up from all the hype WWE gave her and not so far early into the main roster without having to develop her skill set because as someone who’s been watching WWE for a long time now sees a lot of her flaws she has to get basics down and develop from here. That’s why they pair her with Bianca to take her under her wing to show her the ropes and get used under theWWE system apart from her previously coming from AEW. She’s a beautiful, fine, and built woman no doubt and got no shade or hate for her at all but I think they pushed her too soon before she can develop herself first to upbuild an establishment for her character and move set to improve in NXT first. Hell even Charlotte, Becky, Bayley, and even Bianca started off in NXT before being called up to the main roster.
@sionrouge1697
3 ай бұрын
Jade is 33. You guys keep saying give her time....SHE IS 33. SHES NOT GOING TO DO THIS UNTIL SHES 40.
@phenomenalelitebasketball2124
3 ай бұрын
She’s 32 she was born June 3rd 1992
@sionrouge1697
3 ай бұрын
@@phenomenalelitebasketball2124 ok and ? She's not getting better
@futurePro2003
3 ай бұрын
overrated BROCK
@moises9090
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Pat tries too hard.
@AteCerealWithNoMilk
3 ай бұрын
I really thought she could be a big star in the WWE based on her looks. But i was wrong. She has bad habits in the ring. But im not going to call her a bust rn. She's not like Maxine dupri, who looks good but is garbage juice in the ring.
@GtfCxd
2 ай бұрын
What is Jaed🤨
@JeffHardyfan316
3 ай бұрын
If you go back & do research on the Ring of honor product from 2015-2016. The roster was exciting. It featured Stars like Alex Shelley & Matt Sydal. And alot of Wrestlers were starting to Wrestle in ROH. I remember looking at the ROH roster on their website. I saw Adam Cole then Adam Page. And I swore he was a jobber. Then I saw him Wrestle on ROH TV weekly. He hit a Apron Shooting Star press. And I was like this guy is the future of Wrestling. But the ROH roster from 2015-2016 is pretty good in hind sight. I wanted to see a bunch of ROH matches & shows. I got dvd's from Highspots. Those same shows I never saw until recently. And I had a blast watching those shows. 😀
@JeffHardyfan316
3 ай бұрын
You might want to watch Ring of honor Wrestling TV on Honorclub from 2015-2016. It was some pretty good stuff. I remember not watching ROH at the time. Because I thought that S.C.U. vs The Luchadors was going to be a bad squash match. But that match I saw probably less than 6 months ago. And I feel like that match was very underrated. It was the ROH 6 man Tag Team Championship tournament. It was on a weekly episode of ROH TV. Very good match. Very fun match. That match was beyond better than WWE in the last 30 years. Christopher Daniels. And Ultimo Guerrero stole the show. 😀
@LOU-bg2wu
2 ай бұрын
FACTSSSS
@2kpun
3 ай бұрын
What everyone failed to realize with Jade was those were the same ropes that almost killed Damian Priest, that the Ref warned AJ Styles about before his match with Cody and cause their Suplex together against them to go almost horribly wrong, oh and the same ropes that caused Bailey to perform her top rope moves off the second rope instead. Yeah that one is not on JADE 😡
@FOF275
3 ай бұрын
No selling only works when people sell regularly. When you see frequent no sells on a weekly basis then the impactful no sell of a finisher in a big match means nothing
@navtektv
3 ай бұрын
Pat is like that friend that is the extrovert to your introvert and forces you to do things that make you uncomfortable but you're eventually thankful that you gave in to them because those moments are moments that you cherish? he's the Steve Stifler of the group if we're talking OG American Pie.
@ericnast2233
3 ай бұрын
Yes she is.
@kwamedotcom3696
3 ай бұрын
You're over rated.
@AssembleWrestling
3 ай бұрын
good one
@javidavi99x
3 ай бұрын
I keep missing the underrated overrated chat to give my topic
@Lihtsleeper
3 ай бұрын
1000% shouldn’t even be on the roster
@Lihtsleeper
3 ай бұрын
Let alone given a belt total ridiculous
@JustinSane_555
3 ай бұрын
Jade’s so blue and just unlikable at this point. No one fears the most ripped women in wrestling is saying something. Great video brother
@cameronbrown7774
3 ай бұрын
Ryan Patrick lol
@SmoothSportsGaming
3 ай бұрын
Bron is overrated. Hes a vanilla meathead but hes not even that big. Voice is not intimidating, doesnt really have a gimmick, hes not funny like Uncle, acts too much like Goldberg, Mid mic skills, sounds too nice/forced as a heel, and last but not least 🥁......Overused Spear as a finisher.
@IBelieveinJoehendryTNA
3 ай бұрын
She just like goldberg big power moves that all you want from her.
@blvckdvwn5835
3 ай бұрын
Jade isn't overrated. The over hype is the problem. She's very athletic but doing too many moves at the stage she's at is more detrimental. But since we're are pointing out "overrated" wrestlers Bron Breaker is long overdue for that discussion.
@rileyanthony
3 ай бұрын
A hot take I have is that trick Willams,oba,clawni Jordan are all pretty overrated in nxt all 3 of them should not be champions.
@JeffHardyfan316
3 ай бұрын
WWE is getting so bad lately my plans are to cancel my Peacock subscription. And just watch my WWE produced dvd's of WWE, WCW, ECW, AWA, WCCW & Mid-South. Also my TNA produced TNA dvd's and my ROH produced ROH dvd's. I got 10 ROH dvd's I never saw before coming in the mail pretty soon. 1 dvd isn't on Honorclub. So I'm excited. But for watching WWE not so much. WWE is tanking way down lately. WWE is becoming unbearable to watch. 😀
@nightmaremikel
3 ай бұрын
They botched Jade's debut. They made her look like top star but then stick her in the tag division. In my honest opinion yea she looks like a star and has the potential to be one but she is lacking mad experience. She wrestled like 2 every 3months in AEW. she needs serious training.
@richardcoffer4758
3 ай бұрын
Too many excuses for someone who is clearly not good enough.
@joshharhut9948
3 ай бұрын
Y'all that are saying Jade is overrated are just some haters, Jade is not overrated you people wanna criticize her because she had some minor botches in the ring newsflash, shes not the only one that had botches in the ring almost every WWE Superstar has had botches even the legends we grew up watching like Stone Cold, Kurt Angle, RVD (just to name a few). Just because Jade had a few botches that don't mean shes overrated considering all the time WWE gave her to train properly before having her debut at Royal Rumble. WWE knows they got a star with a bright in future in Jade. But if you wanna talk about women in WWE or just wrestling in general that are REALLY Overrated look at women like Becky Lynch, Mercedes Moné, Ronda, Bayley, Bianca and Charlotte these 6 women are the most Overrated because they got handed unlimited opportunites while there are other women in the back that also very qualified but were constantly being held back because these 6 think the entire womens division revolves around them when it damn well didn't.
@suboryourgay-x7s
3 ай бұрын
Jade she fine but in AEW she did short matches and she has no tag team experience until now I feel like she can be a higher level star but take some pressure off her
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