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@crownedwolf8102
2 жыл бұрын
In general, I like to think myself an intelligent, well-informed person. I never feel less so when I come across something like these charades. Fun and games indeed (harrumph, harrumph)
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Harrumph, harrumph, indeed! In the thoughts of Mr Knightley, charades are "but the vehicle for gallantry [showing off] and trick" (Emma, ch.41). Obvious, but only when you know the answer!
@p_nk7279
2 жыл бұрын
The word of the day = Chariddle! I busted out laughing on that one.
@dsr8223
2 жыл бұрын
That was 😂.
@dsr8223
2 жыл бұрын
What can it be, Dr. Cox?-what can it be? I have not an idea-I cannot guess it in the least. What can it possibly be? Can it be Neptune? Or a trident? Or a mermaid? Or a shark? Oh, no! Shark is only one syllable! Oh! Dr. Cox, do you think we shall ever find it out?"
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Hehe! Oh poor Harriet - with Emma glaring at her it was only ever going to be harder for her to get it!
@londongael
2 жыл бұрын
I can't help myself. This one's easy-peasy: My first is a child, but it has to be male, My second's what catches a fish by the tail; You put them together, as here is the norm, And you'll find a well-belov'd poetic form.
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Ha! - got it! A lovely literary one.
@Izabela-ek5nh
2 жыл бұрын
What is the answer please?
@londongael
2 жыл бұрын
@@Izabela-ek5nh A male child - "son"; what catches a fish - "net" ; answer - "sonnet", a very popular poem form of fourteen lines.
@daffodilunderhill7066
2 жыл бұрын
This was nice for Jane Austen's birthday party today!
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, happy Two Hundred and Forty Sixth Birthday (born 16 December 1775) to the one and only Jane Austen!
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
For those who did not get any of the answers - please don’t worry, they are supposed to be puzzling! Clearly the Austen family themselves puzzled, collaboratively, over each other’s charades for days. Jane Austen wrote to her sister, Cassandra, for instance, on 29th January 1813: “We admire your Charades excessively, but as yet have guessed only the 1st. The others seem extremely difficult.”
@nickwilliams7547
2 жыл бұрын
Octavia, I hope to see your excellent new word 'chariddle' in the next edition of the Oxford English Dictionary!
@celestequestvet373
2 жыл бұрын
I am now going to use "chariddle" wherever I can in every day life
@macareuxmoine
2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, I am afraid in Jane’s time they would have deemed me quite a dimwit 🤪
@ellie698
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, and I've always thought of myself as intelligent 🙄
@macareuxmoine
2 жыл бұрын
@@ellie698 same here! Dr. Octavia shattering our illusions 🤪
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Not at all! They were designed to be done collectively, and often over days...
@ellie698
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrOctaviaCox Phew! Thank you Dr Octavia, that's a relief to know ☺️
@macareuxmoine
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrOctaviaCox yes, a thank you from my side too 🙏 I’ll listen on diligently… maybe there is hope for me 😊
@SchlichteToven
2 жыл бұрын
I love riddles, especially clever ones like the hemlock one, but I'd never have got them because they require a thorough understanding of life in Jane Austen's time period to solve! Even if I'd guessed "sew." I'd never have come up with "hem." I wonder if Jane Austen's friends and family were able to solve them, and how long it took. Oh wait - I just saw Dr Octavia Cox's comment regarding her family finding them difficult. Oh good!
@carolinet7021
2 жыл бұрын
I actually got the last one! Feeling very proud of myself. There's no way I'd've gotten the first two, though.
@ellie698
2 жыл бұрын
well done! I wouldn't have got any of them 😶
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! I do wonder if there was any (not so) hidden messaging for male relations with that last one...
@glendas.mckinney926
2 жыл бұрын
Me, too! No idea how to begin the first two, but the third came rather quickly
@nksurf
2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@missanne2908
2 жыл бұрын
I did as well!
@margaretinsydney3856
2 жыл бұрын
I find myself to be as dull witted as Harriet Smith...
@londongael
2 жыл бұрын
Or...(again, bending the rules a bit) My first two: a span of eight musical notes; My third is what hears them; my last steers the boats. Finesse it a bit, and you'll see very plain A charming professor, who helps us read Jane. Alright, alright, I'll stop now. 🎄✴😄
@dsr8223
2 жыл бұрын
That's the only one I was able to solve, but I won't spoil it for others. Nice job!
@sabinebeyer9249
2 жыл бұрын
Although my English is good enough for your fantastic videos and for reading Jane Austens novels; alas! it's not quite good enough for this glorious charades. I had half an idea for the third, but not the whole answer😒 Thanks for this video and especially for this funny new word chariddle. It's worth of putting it in the oxford dictionary 👍
@sf2studios
2 жыл бұрын
I've read Emma a few times and I've always wanted to know the answer to Mr. Elton's riddle. It always made me feel terrible that I couldn't figure it out, but now that you've explained it I feel so much better. There was no way I would have figured it out by myself because I don't use the same language. I was trying to fit broken or sick into the answer... not "woe". Is there a trick to figuring them out? Would they have been easy for the reader at that time?
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Often they would have been puzzled over in groups rather than solitarily (as in the Austen family itself), sharing ideas and possibilities together, which makes things easier.
@Izabela-ek5nh
2 жыл бұрын
I was getting crazy with it but the original version I've bought has the answer in it :) (tbh in translation it was totally impossible to guess because of the labguage of course... not knowing that I tried and tried - and there was no answer.)
@Sillyalways
2 жыл бұрын
This was so charming! Imagine how cool was to play this with Jane Austen.
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! - clearly the whole Austen gang enjoyed playing charades with each other.
@mrs.manrique7411
2 жыл бұрын
Now I know how Harriet feels.
@ellie698
2 жыл бұрын
yes!!!
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
She never stood a chance with Emma standing by!
@carolinefreeman4546
2 жыл бұрын
Only got them when you explained the first part of it and so could guess the rest. I think I'll stick with Miss Bates and come up with 3 things very dull indeed 😄
@dsr8223
2 жыл бұрын
😆
@bookmouse2719
2 жыл бұрын
:-)
@AD-hs2bq
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have been able to figure these out. A woman's task was hemming? Horrors! Thank you-these are clever.
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Yep, women would have done a lot of sewing. In Pride and Prejudice we might note that Lizzy Bennet, while staying at Netherfield, causally sews in the evening while enjoying listening to the conversation of the others: "...in the evening Elizabeth joined their party in the drawing-room. The loo table, however, did not appear. Mr. Darcy was writing, and Miss Bingley, seated near him, was watching the progress of his letter, and repeatedly calling off his attention by messages to his sister. Mr. Hurst and Mr. Bingley were at piquet, and Mrs. Hurst was observing their game. Elizabeth took up some needlework, and was sufficiently amused in attending to what passed between Darcy and his companion." (ch.10)
@annika5893
2 жыл бұрын
These are difficult, especially since I'm not native speaker of English. In the first I thought praying as a task for a girl of spirit. In second, I thought judge, notary, magistrate or king regent as a man of deed and power. And in the third I thought of Narcissus, the Greek myth because a nymph was mentioned...
@carriep7378
2 жыл бұрын
Just rewatched the 2020 adaptation of Emma is it the only Austen where we don’t get a first hand depiction of a military or Naval officer. There’s Colonel Campbell but we only get reports of him. Is there any significance to this?
@HRJohn1944
2 жыл бұрын
This feels like a school end-of-term party - great fun and thank you for all of your videos. (I've mentioned elsewhere that I actually figured out the third one - but then, I am an accountant.
@gibbersking6575
2 жыл бұрын
I'm such an ignoramus! But it was fun to try. Thank you and I would be happy to see new charades, next year. Happy Christmas and wishing you an excellent - and healthy - 2022, one and all!
@lastchancemonicam3948
2 жыл бұрын
The first creates thought. The second makes busy. When combined my head's in a tizzy. Subtract one letter from the following to find the answer: bsuvpsl.
@londongael
2 жыл бұрын
Last one, I promise: My first comes midway, in an alphabet's list; My second's the last that you'll see of a beast; My whole rules the order of who gets the stuff, So look after your daughters, so they'll have enough.
@louise-yo7kz
2 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday Jane Austen
@bluumz-n-veg
2 жыл бұрын
I have a "Marshall's Ladies Fashionable Repository for 1830" that contains several pages of "Charades, Enigmas, &c". Some have quite long and lyrical descriptions of the "first" and the "second" parts, as well as a longer description of the "whole". But here are a couple short four-line examples: I found this one fairly easy: 1) My first is lovely, pale, and bright; My second it imparts; My whole dispels the gloom of night, Delighting lovers' hearts. This next one was a bit more challenging: 2) My first is a name of a part of your frame; A part of your dress is my second; My whole has the power my first to secure, And a dreadful disgrace may be reckon'd.
@josephkarl2061
2 жыл бұрын
These require a fairly reasonable knowledge of 18th century life, so alas I knew very little. I know people who would have been able to guess these, but the amount of time and energy they dedicate to this period in time is far beyond this mere mortal 😆
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Many women of the period (including those of the gentry class, of which the Austens were on the periphery) would have spent much time sewing, or "at work" [i.e. needlework], together. JA wrote to Cassandra, for example, "This complaint in my eye has been a sad bore to me, for I have not been able to read or work in any comfort since Friday" (Tuesday, 8th January 1799). Playing word games together would have been a way to pass the time mentally while the hands were occupied.
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Harder than you thought? Or easy peasy?
@suehamstead3007
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Octavia - I didn't do very well, but that was fun!
@iluvmusicals21
2 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday Jane!💗
@jenniferlawrence8533
2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to you and your family 🥰🇺🇸
@mljudd123
2 жыл бұрын
I only got banknotes, but I really enjoyed this!
@ellie698
2 жыл бұрын
They're so easy when you give the answers but i would never have worked them out 🤦🏻♀️
@andrewandcubes
2 жыл бұрын
I had wedlock for the first one… not sure it makes perfect sense but it seems nicer to me! I did manage to get number three 😊Thanks for the video!
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure! - And hey "lock" is half-way there. Definitely worth half a point!
@lizg2153
2 жыл бұрын
New interest: Unlocked This was so interesting and wonderful! I'd love to dig deeper into charades!
@Zaft_K
2 жыл бұрын
I guessed the last one but no others. The first one was quite morbid!
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Ha! - yes, JA doesn't shy away from biting morbidity in some of her jokes. I've always rather marvelled at the casual - even cheery! - misanthropy of this one: "Human nature is so well disposed towards those who are in interesting situations, that a young person, who either marries or dies, is sure of being kindly spoken of" (Emma, ch.22).
@ellie698
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrOctaviaCox Death was an ever present fact of life in that time. The only way to deal with these things was philosophically and with a certain amount of black humour I'm sure.
@coloraturaElise
2 жыл бұрын
Also, in Austen's Juvenilia, she constantly harps on morbid themes.
@amybee40
2 жыл бұрын
@@coloraturaElise I think we all enjoy morbid themes more in our youth, when we've had less real experience to measure them by.
@alexb7596
2 жыл бұрын
I figured out the last one. The other two were to difficult.
@yorkshirepudding9860
2 жыл бұрын
Those were all much darker than I was expecting!
@tessat338
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get anywhere close on the first two, but I was beginning to work out the second but got too fancy with odes and sonnets. Years ago, my husband was playing twenty questions with a collogue while stuck waiting together in an airport and the answer to the 20 questions was "hemlock," so he might have gotten the first.
@heathermatthies3638
2 жыл бұрын
Char-riddles ... very clever 👏
@icoutsidethebox
2 жыл бұрын
“Chariddle” I love it! 😁
@DavidBrowningBYD
2 жыл бұрын
I must confess I have never understood the charades and riddles in Emma. This is a tremendous help!
@vickinoeske1154
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely did not get them until you explained. haha But, it was great fun.
@londongael
2 жыл бұрын
OK, try this one: My first is the reverence, tinged with some fear Appropriate to feel when my second is near - A Norse god is he - but together we find One who conjures up novels, just using her mind.
@celestequestvet373
2 жыл бұрын
I love this and know what it is - how appropriate! Do you want us to guess here or wait for Octavia?
@dsr8223
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to know (from Dr. Cox's comments) that people in JA's time could spend days figuring these out.
@yorkshirepudding9860
2 жыл бұрын
That was a really good one. Well done! I've been trying to think of one but I'm hopeless at it!
@MrsDuckpotatoe
2 жыл бұрын
I got the third but had no idea on one and two, lol.
@nurtimharshahaji5079
2 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful, Dr. Octavia Cox
@randigerber1926
Жыл бұрын
These remind me of Cryptic Crossword clues, another typically British type of word game. So glad to have found you, Dr Cox, by following a mention of you by Scottish author Mary Kingswood.
@extremelysamantha
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! This one was really interesting. 😊
@LIsa_Shi
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! Really educational ❤ Can I ask, why would one make 'notes' for a nymph? Why not odes or songs? It's confusing 😢
@timstevens8851
2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your content and analysis. In thinking about Edward Ferrars in "Sense and Sensibility", what were the Regency societal constraints obligating him to his engagement of Lucy Steele? Where Regency engagements tantamount to legal contracts, or is it really just a question of honor and the value of one's promise with Edward? Thank you.
@ايلو_ايلو
Жыл бұрын
Hi , l'm writing a research about Jane Austen's novels..there is a charade in her " History of England" about the king James i can't get it if you please try to help me with. The charade is " my first is what my second was to King James the 1st ,and you tread on my whole "
@ConstanzeWeber
2 жыл бұрын
Shariddle is now officially a word!!!! 😃
@bookgirl2
2 жыл бұрын
3rd one was easy, but those first two...whew! No clue!
@nksurf
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Was so fun trying to figure them out. Got the third but not the others. Loved this!
@erp1293
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if people use to cryptic crosswords would have an easier time.
@PMabq
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Happy Christmas!
@gordon5004
2 жыл бұрын
That was good fun. Thank you.
@californiak2891
2 жыл бұрын
I got number 3! ;-)
@NimrodFowl
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get any of that 😃
@SarahElisabethJoyal
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that first one is *dark*. It puts me in mind of Catherine Called Birdy (one of my all-time favorite books)
@londongael
2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Catherine Called Birdy! It's not as well known as it deserves to be - at least, here in the UK. "Tangled my spinning again. Corpus bones, what a torture." Every word a delight - must go and read it again now!
@--enyo--
11 ай бұрын
Wow, that first one took a dark turn!
@ruthfeiertag
2 жыл бұрын
This was delightful! I was stumped by every one of them. I hope others will post more so maybe I can catch the trick of thinking them through.
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! If you want more, here is another! - This one is by Frank Austen: By my 1st you may travel with safety & speed Though many dislike the conveyance indeed. My 2nd no woman can well be My whole take a change several times in each year Hot & cold, wet & dry, benignant, severe What am I, fair Lady, pray tell me?
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
HINT... ... ... ... Remember that Frank was a sailor by profession.
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
SOLUTION... ... ... ... 1st = sea 2nd = son Whole = season
@ellie698
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrOctaviaCox Yay! I actually got this one, all by myself!!! Phew, i feel better now, thank you Dr Cox 😁
@ruthfeiertag
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrOctaviaCox I couldn’t get that one either! But I am enjoying trying to puzzle these out.
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