I think playing video games in Japanese is a good way of practising Japanese while having fun. And with Nintendo Switch, they seem to have furigana which is also good news. But if you don't know basic Japanese, you won't be able to play Animal Crossing in Japanese. So if you want to learn Japanese with me, I can send you some Japanese lessons where I teach you the kind of Japanese that Japanese people actually speak. Click here and subscribe bit.ly/3i6R6P2
@walteradant7401
4 жыл бұрын
That Japanese Man Yuta 話が少し変わりますが、この動画を見てびっくりしたのはこの動画に出てる人々の訛りです。普段は東京で取材していますがこの動画を見ると大阪っぽい感じでした。
@MrDavid-lc7cu
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Yuta-San, I live in Japan and I am American. My Japanese is very basic and this happens to me all the time. However, I think a lot of foreigners tend to be too sensitive. Sometimes it may not be sincere necessarily but it always makes me feel nice that someone is being kind to me. Would these foreigners rather that Japanese said “you are terrible” at speaking Japanese? lol. Also, I tend to find myself doing the same thing to Japanese who speak only a little English. Even if it’s not perfect English, in my heart my intention is to make someone feel nice and encourage them to keep trying. As a gaijin, I am tired of other gaijin crying so much!
@A-Wa
4 жыл бұрын
thats a great idea but unfortunately I already started animal crossing in my native language :( do you know if I can change language settings?
@Nalderification
4 жыл бұрын
Furigana is not helping you. If you need it, then how do read books, news paper or do your work properly?
@sarbuck355
4 жыл бұрын
Yuta, can you tells japan not accepting anything made from China. ( mask and foods products). China playing nasty games behind global.
@aajohnsoutube
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind the complement anymore. One of Japanese friends told me to take it as “we are happy you are trying”. Because so many westerners don’t even try.
@AerB111
4 жыл бұрын
But then they compliment also the ones who don't try :v
@EM-yz1yv
4 жыл бұрын
what does it mean? If one does not speak any Japanese, Japanese would not complement his/her Japanese.
@ShanomoBro
4 жыл бұрын
I find I brush over it now, but it took a while. Whether it's insincere or not (varies by case), I think it's simply important to always try to improve no matter what others perception is.
@aajohnsoutube
4 жыл бұрын
Efrem Serreli If you are not trying at all, then I doubt you will hear this compliment very often - especially not in Japanese.
@AerB111
4 жыл бұрын
@@aajohnsoutube And you would be wrong because they literally compliment you at the first Japanese word they hear you say.
@JazGalaxy
4 жыл бұрын
I would be very interested in a video about what is “obvious to people in Japan” but is not obvious to people outside of Japan. I am interested in what my blind spots are.
@HaruSkage
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, especially since he made the claim and provided no example
@Musouka3
4 жыл бұрын
You will have to sign up for the super amazing awesome Japanese course of deep perspectives in order to understand that ;)
@dreamsof3dspace555
4 жыл бұрын
Literally everything; they're indirect and they don't like telling you they have a problem with something e.g. if they think you're wearing too much cologne or perfume they might say something like "You wore perfume today, huh, I got a good noseful as I walked in" with a huge smile on their face but really they're saying "You needa cut that shit out it smells awful."
@KuZiMeiChuan
4 жыл бұрын
The definite integral of e^-x2/sqrtpi from 0 to 1/(10pi-30)
@sechabatheletsane9784
4 жыл бұрын
@@dreamsof3dspace555 dont know why this made me laugh🤣
@MisterJang0
4 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to think Yuta wants me to subscribe to his e-mail group.
@seahawkers101
4 жыл бұрын
What email group? /s
@jasamsheja285
4 жыл бұрын
Let him say it just a hundred more times to make sure
@dipulogan1452
4 жыл бұрын
there are 2 kind of compliments: 1)your japanese is good 2)how long have you stayed in japan 2 is the real one.
@NayvieNoir
4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying I can escape all of my problems in Animal Crossing EXCEPT “日本語上手”
@jgontko23
4 жыл бұрын
I got surprised by it xD
@dreamyparadise
4 жыл бұрын
you get 日本語上手 even if you say you live in Japan. lol I've watched a few japanese people play acnh on youtube
@keyarca
4 жыл бұрын
Are people actually mad? At this point it's such a meme for foreigners that it's just a funny thing. I hope people can laugh at it and not take it so seriously. And the people in the video probably didn't understand because they don't actually realize how often they say it. I'd be intrested in seeing their reaction to all the *"nihongo jouzu"* memes lol 😅
@nickpatella1525
4 жыл бұрын
nihongo ga*
@Vulcapyro
4 жыл бұрын
It isn't even about how often one individual person says it. Most people by themselves won't say it that often because they aren't put into situations where they're talking to foreigners all the time. It's the foreigner that just gets to hear it several times a day because they're speaking to a bunch of different japanese people that each say it once.
@tmtmtm_
4 жыл бұрын
dork So true. We don't even have a chance to talk to a foreigner usually, so only foreigners feel that way and we tend to say their Japanese is good because tourists never really speak any Japanese.
@OngoingDiscovery
4 жыл бұрын
@@nickpatella1525 they don't always say ga. Infact I'd wager that most of the time people have said it to me they've omitted it.
@Songfugel
4 жыл бұрын
@@OngoingDiscovery absolutely agree with you 日本語お上手(です) has been way more common to hear
@nowakimagica
4 жыл бұрын
I think the real issue is that people who speak Japanese fluently and have lived in Japan for a long amount of time still get this compliment by every new encounter with a person. In other (more diverse) countries it would be an insult to assume that someone with a different ethnicity couldn't speak the language of the country they live in (therefor complimenting them would be an insult).
@maschaorsomething
4 жыл бұрын
@@Peachelliver Oh, literally same situation with me. Whenever someone finds out that I'm not originally from Germany, people get excited about the lack of accent, although I can't speak Russian for shit, just understand it.
@lunarxs
4 жыл бұрын
That's the comment I was looking for ! This makes much more sens to me than being angry because you got praised even though you're not that good
@rsmith02
4 жыл бұрын
Well, if you really speak fluently you won't get commented on much. People stop noticing it and just communicate, as it's more interesting to them and they may have questions. If you mess up though, then the spell is broken and you might get a Nihongo ga jouzu. Which is just them being reminded that there is a barrier. Otherwise if you're good and you get that it's because the other person is flustered or nervous and thinks praising you will help build a positive bond. Accept it and keep talking and you'll never hear it again. (My Japanese isn't amazing but good enough for work and life here)
@X33Ultras0und
4 жыл бұрын
I see, you know you live there, but they don't. You're just like the other 44 tourists that probably spoke to them that decade. So it's not yet customary to think foreigners are common place yet, therefore, as they only just met you, "why not spur this foreigner on to continue learning Japanese" I'm not saying you're wrong for feeling like this, but just be aware of the other perspective. You probably haven't lived in an area that is over 96% your race. Most western countries are mixed so it is common place for us. But not Japanese. I kind of feel like this happens in South Korea too.
@---zx9zf
4 жыл бұрын
@@Peachelliver Fr? Maybe you are living in a small town. I really don't look typically german, but everyone assumes that I speak german here in Frankfurt am Main (which is good, since german is my first language).
@Eriolkun12
4 жыл бұрын
Was this shot in Osaka? Their candidness and accent is somewhat refreshing, like the one that compared it to multiplication tables.
@redfish337
4 жыл бұрын
This is Osaka.
@RaLo4
4 жыл бұрын
seems like it. what quite some kansai-ben in there
@userandresearcher1036
4 жыл бұрын
THIS IS SPARTAAAA!
@michaelmcgill8104
4 жыл бұрын
Here is where it was shot. Osaka Chayamachi. You can see the Nu plus and the Game Amuseum. www.google.com/maps/@34.7076835,135.499648,3a,75y,262.99h,83.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6Uwquz_Ry7gSEO4-QkYGxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
4 жыл бұрын
For me, the "kangaehen" at 4:20 caught my attention haha
@AerB111
4 жыл бұрын
The comments section: "I speak little Japanese or none at all and I don't understand this". To make it easier to understand, people "get mad" (not really) because they know way more than the things they get praised for. The girl at 3:36 is the only one who actually got it. If you've been studying Japanese for 6 months, of course any kind of praise feels good. If you've been fluent in Japanese for years, being praised for being able to say "konnichiwa" or "because you can even read katakana", it gets old.
@ribendende
4 жыл бұрын
Tatemae can become annoying indeed in large quantities
@TomMRF
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know... I've been learning Japanese for years and have conversations in Japanese pretty much every day. Yet it doesn't bother me at all. Most people you encounter outside don't know your life story, and they are just trying to be nice. And usually they are sincere; they are just happy that you make an effort to learn the language, the level hardly matters. Also even a tiny bit of Japanese is impressive to people that don't speak any foreign language. In general, I think it's nice to be complimented. Moving to a new culture is a stressful process that makes people overly sensitive and too focused on small things. I think it's a good opportunity to grow a thicker skin and to learn how to be above something as pointless as getting annoyed just because someone compliments your Japanese.
@ranarm6980
4 жыл бұрын
TomMRF although people are getting annoyed, I’m pretty sure they still appreciate the thought. I think the problem is how Japanese people show like how proud they are that a foreigner has been learning their language. the foreigners might think of it as like a person that was never interested in anything artistic but then one day they decided to draw something. Then they go show their mother and the mother would be like “ohh it’s so good you’re such an artist” or something like that. I’m pretty sure the person would get kinda disappointed cuz they know it’s terrible. They would prefer something like words of encouragement or like not to be surprised but more like thankful. I don’t know how to explain it but you should get what I mean. Well I guess it would be different for everyone since you don’t mind and actually enjoy them but other people they might feel differently. And if it happens a lot then it’s understandable. I don’t think there should be a reason for people to get mad cuz of the animal crossing thing. I mean they’re just happy treat you know the language but if they say stuff like that throughout the game then being mad or annoyed about it is totally ok. I probably don’t make sense cuz I need to elaborate more but you should get what I mean
@A-Wa
4 жыл бұрын
浜影也 It gets annoying whatever’s language or country it might be. If Im asian and born in Europe it would be the sams „wow you speak french so good!“. I dont know what to reply. „Thanks, been living here for more than 30years“??
@Songfugel
4 жыл бұрын
Good comment. Was just about to write about the same thing
@briancamus8131
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve definitely experienced over the top reactions to just speaking one sentence of Japanese. But I’ll gladly take that over a “But We Are Speaking Japanese” encounter.
@WeirdAlSuperFan
4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes they come together with the other person gesticulating and using the worst English you've ever heard, making you guess what they're trying to say because they go into "talking to a foreigner" mode even as they use Japanese for the things they don't know how to say in English. I figure getting to native level is the only cure, although even then you'll prolly still have to lie and say you're from Japan and that you're busy (if it's not someone you intend on talking to again)
Bro one time a Japanese girl said to me "aaa nihongo jouzu!" when I started talking to her in a club and I didn't know what jouzu meant and it was so awkward trying to figure out what she wanted to say and I wanted to die after I found out lmao.
@StrickenWithFear
4 жыл бұрын
...So what does it mean?
@lycanite7886
4 жыл бұрын
@@StrickenWithFear The phrase that one may expect when being complimented is 日本語が上手 ! Which roughly means, "Your Japanese is pretty good!" or "Your Japanese is exceptional!" A lot of fellow Japanese people, including myself, say it as a simple polite form of speech. I hear a lot of Japanese learners complain about this phrase, however they often misinterpret it as condescending. It's not and is similar to complimenting your spouse on their outfit that doesn't make them look fat. Also, please don't use elevated vocabulary to somehow "prove" your capability at speaking Japanese. It comes off as "stiff" or "robotic" especially if you were to use it in a casual setting. Those who are truly on a native level speaking basis, can masterfully demonstrate casual speech without painfully trying to prove themselves. Hope this answers your question, even though I probably gave a lot more info than needed lol.
@Musouka3
4 жыл бұрын
Next time that happens, you can amaze them even more by saying: すみません。「上手」の意味が分かりません!
@StrickenWithFear
4 жыл бұрын
@@lycanite7886 Thanks for the informational reply, I really appreciate it.
@gaipa2006
4 жыл бұрын
@@Musouka3 sorry I cannot read kanji can you just say it in English or romanji.
@fight_spr3611
4 жыл бұрын
自分は日本に住む日本人ですが、外国に行って「日本語上手ですね!」なんて言われたらそりゃ「は?」ってなるけど You are good at English! って言われても別に何とも思わないかなぁ ただHelloって言っただけでHa!Ha!Ha! your English is perfect!! lmao とかじゃない限り しかも、「日本語の原文でAnimal Crossingをプレイしたい!」っていうくらい日本語ができる外国人の方だと思うから、別に馬鹿にする意味で言ってるわけじゃないと思います。 日本人が、お世辞を気にしない国民性だからなのかもしれないけど。
Aren't we going in too deep into this? I got this a lot when I was on exchange in Japan, but I just saw it as them being polite. I just laughed about it and then that is where it ends for me, continued with my day.
@Al_Dee
4 жыл бұрын
The results of isolationism ...! All it is haha
@spleep2180
4 жыл бұрын
@@account2792 Teacher training program, about a year and a half. They don't really do it if it is a formal meeting or if they are on duty, but nevertheless, they may say it at the start casually. I know it repeatedly occurs, but isn't it enough to simply not mind it and see it as them being polite?
@uamdbro
4 жыл бұрын
@@account2792 exactly. Makes the perpetual outsider status even worse.
@A-Wa
4 жыл бұрын
Try to laugh it of when you hear it for 30 years on daily basis
@spleep2180
4 жыл бұрын
@@A-Wa I'm not saying it's actually funny nor is it not annoying. I'm saying it's not something we should make a big issue on about since they don't mean anything bad.
@Rin-ef2tp
4 жыл бұрын
I used to 英語上手 people all the time when I was in Japan without even realising I was doing it 😅
@ToshiRolls
4 жыл бұрын
Razorback73 I can see where you’re coming from being that is somewhat is a lie to your face but it’s all perspective of how you deal with this situation. If you know personally that your Japanese isn’t that great, you know and I mean at least you do know that. It gives yourself of a reflection of improving and getting better until you, yourself is satisfied with how you speak then and there. For the Japanese people I think it’s just being part of their polite nature. (most of the time) you can take it or leave it.
@TomMRF
4 жыл бұрын
@Razorback73 Japanese people have a completely different concept of learning languages. For most of them English will be the only foreign language they ever touch, and they have no confidence in it at all due to lack of practice. For many of them, even your broken sentences are genuinely impressive. Just learning rudimentary skills in a foreign language is an impressive and compliment-worthy thing for Japanese people. I don't think they were being dishonest. Additionally, most foreigners in Japan are tourists that speak literally zero Japanese. If you know 10 words in Japanese you are probably already above the average foreigner Japanese people come across.
@ToshiRolls
4 жыл бұрын
TomMRF well said! I like your reply better than mines haha
@shujuka7387
4 жыл бұрын
@@TomMRF Exactly! Thank you
@WeirdAlSuperFan
4 жыл бұрын
@@shujuka7387 as long as I get spoken to in pure Japanese, ie not Japanese mixed with baby-level English, I'm happy
@Claro1993
4 жыл бұрын
I’m playing Animal Crossing while watching this.
@KalinTheZola
4 жыл бұрын
same
@DevinOfBacon
3 жыл бұрын
I would be too if I owned it. I just got a Switch for Christmas, but only own Smash Bros and Mario Kart.
@ThatWeebyGamer
4 жыл бұрын
I started my Animal Crossing in Japanese, I was wondering if anyone else saw the line. I laughed so hard for I read it, I don't think complementing someone's Japanese is a bad thing. Since Japanese is only spoken in one country it's makes sense that Japanese people would be surprised or impressed by anyone bothering to learn any of the language. As an native English speaker we sort of take it for granted that everyone knows at least a bit of English. Whenever someone says to me ああ、日本語が上手 I usually just respond with いいえ、いいえ、たくさん勉強しなければなりません I don't get why anyone would need to get annoyed by it.
@MarkusAndersen96
4 жыл бұрын
You completely misunderstood the point then.... It's about feeling mocked for expressing short and common phrases, to someone otherwise fluent/advanced in the language. Hearing it all the time would be tiresome. And we all know that japanese people mean nothing but good when saying it, but the point still stands.
@rzt430
4 жыл бұрын
@@MarkusAndersen96 just deal with it. it's not being said with malicious intentions anyways so why make it such a big deal and victimize yourself over it what the fuck worry about something else for once
@tibethatguy
4 жыл бұрын
@@rzt430 Ah yes, because giving an example of miscommunication is now victimising yourself.
@MarkusAndersen96
4 жыл бұрын
@@rzt430 ? I was just trying to explain the point in the video, lol.
@iclicklike3397
11 ай бұрын
@@MarkusAndersen96 you can tell if someones good just from hearing their short sentences. The real problem is people getting offended by stupid shit like this.
@STENNELER Jérémy ご丁寧にありがとうございます…!日本語を勉強してるということで日本語で返しちゃいましたが、翻訳機も使ってくれて、分かってくれてるようで良かったです。私たちもヨーロッパやアメリカなど他の国の「礼儀正しさ」を理解してないことは、良くありますからお互いに一緒ですね。特に日本人は海外の事をよく知らないことも多いので…。 間違いは悪い事ではないというのは良い事ですね。日本では時々、間違いは恥ずかしい事(悪い事)になってしまうこともあるので、それを教えるのがすごく難しかったりするんです。逆にヨーロッパの方がハッキリと間違いを伝えてくることに驚いたり傷付いたりする人もいます。その時に日本人側がもっと「指摘されることは悪い事ではない」ということが分かってるとコミュニケーションがもっとスームズに進むんだろうなと思います。私達も勉強が大事ですね。お互いにもっと分かり合えることを望みます。 PS. 間違いを伝えることは悪い事ではないということで、勇気を出して伝えてみますね!日本語で送ってくれる気持ちは嬉しいですが、全部ローマ字だと日本人はすごく読みづらくて読めないです。読めないので間違いの指摘も出来ないです。この長さの文をアルファベットを使って全て打つのは大変だったと思います。日本人でもすごく疲れますよ!平仮名やカタカナを交えると日本人でも読めます。もしくは英語を使ってくれると翻訳機が使えます。でも、貴方が日本語を学んで、使おうとしてくれる気持ちはとても嬉しかったです!丁寧な返信をありがとう😊
@青木赤-x7s
4 жыл бұрын
@STENNELER Jérémy 返信ありがとうございます。 改めて日本語の曖昧さについて考えてみました。とても面白い時間でした!日本人は外国人を避ける傾向にあるのはよく聞きますし事実だと思います。悪意は無いとしても傷つきますよね。ここで、個人的な考えを言ってみます。日本人は「察する」文化が多いハイコンテクストな言語を使用しています。そのため同じ日本人同士ならば言葉にせずとも仕草や表現などで意図を読み取れますし、逆にそうやって自分を伝えようとします。しかし外国人の方ではこの方法が使えないためコミュニケーションの仕方が分からず混乱したり、人によっては面倒くさいと感じてコミュニケーションを拒否する場合があるのではないかと思います。映画の感想を伝える時も「これは酷かった」というのではなく少し困ったように「うーん…ふふふ」というだけで、日本人同士ならこの映画は酷いと感じたと伝わります。ハッキリいうと相手を傷つけてしまうというのは、日本ではわざわざ言わなくとも通じてしまうので、ハッキリ伝えるということは「ハッキリ言わなければいけないほど酷いと感じた」ということになってしまいます。日本語の場合、曖昧に表現するのが普通なので、ハッキリと表現するということはそれだけ異常だということになる場合があります。曖昧な表現を汲み取れない人ももちろんいますがそういう人は「空気が読めない」として、煙たがられたりします。(私も「空気が読めない」人ですw) そのようなコミュニケーションが日常なので、他の文化に触れた場合日本人は何も話せなかったりします。日本では何も言わなくてもいつも相手は察してくれたので。でもこれはコミュニケーションを取るための努力を放棄しているとも言えます。そのため日本人ももっと思ってることを伝える努力が必要だと思います。私個人の考えですが、日本語それ自体は難しくなくとも、私たちは言語以外のところで会話をしているのかもしれません。言っていないことを察することや細かい敬語表現など文化的側面でのコミュニケーションがすごく難しいと思います。なぜなら日本人の私ですらいつも苦労してるので!日本人は実は何も伝えていないのではなく言葉ではないところで何かを伝えているんです。そして日本人自身もそれを読み取ることに常に苦労していますw 何もかも思ったことを話すのは家族ぐらいで、人によっては家族にすら言いません。だからFacebookなどではなく、Twitterなどの匿名のSNSが日本では人気なのでしょう。 日本人は西洋とは異なったコミュニケーションで日頃暮らしているために、すれ違ってしまいます。決して嫌悪などではないことが西洋人の方達に伝われば良いと思います。そしてそれで日本にうんざりしたとしても私は引き止めることはできませんが、もし根気強くこの複雑でめんどくさい文化に付き合ってくれるのならば、日本人として敬意と感謝を示します。 I used a translator. Thank you for your reply. I thought about the ambiguity of Japanese again. It was a very interesting time! I often hear that Japanese people tend to avoid foreigners, and I think it is a fact. Even if it's not malicious, it will hurt. Now, let me give you a personal idea. The Japanese use a high-context language with a lot of "sense" culture. Therefore, if you are the same Japanese, you can read your intentions by gestures and expressions without using words, and on the contrary, you try to convey yourself in that way. However, since foreigners cannot use this method, they may be confused because they do not know how to communicate, and some people may find it troublesome and refuse to communicate. When I convey my impressions of the movie, I don't say "this was terrible", but just say "Hmm ... fufufu", and it is said that Japanese people felt that this movie was terrible. To be clear, to hurt the other person is understood in Japan without having to bother to say it, so to convey it clearly means "I felt it was so terrible that I had to say it clearly." In the case of Japanese, it is normal to express it vaguely, so expressing it clearly may mean that it is abnormal. Of course, there are people who can't understand ambiguous expressions, but those people are often smoky because they can't read the air. (I'm also a person who can't read the air. :) ) Since such communication is commonplace, Japanese people may not be able to speak anything when they come into contact with other cultures. In Japan, the other person always guessed me without saying anything. But this can be said to be abandoning efforts to communicate. Therefore, I think it is necessary for Japanese people to make efforts to convey their thoughts. In my opinion, even if Japanese itself is not difficult, we may be talking in a place other than the language. I think it is very difficult to communicate in terms of culture, such as understanding what you are not saying and expressing detailed honorifics. Because even I, a Japanese, always have a hard time! The Japanese aren't actually telling anything, they are telling something in a non-verbal way. And the Japanese themselves are always struggling to read it. Only the family tells what they thought, and some people don't even tell the family. That's why anonymous SNS such as Twitter is popular in Japan instead of Facebook. Japanese people pass each other because they live in a different way from the West. I hope that Westerners will be informed that they are not disgusted. And even if I get tired of Japan, I can't stop it, but if I patiently deal with this complicated and annoying culture, I would like to show respect and gratitude as a Japanese. ps. It may be easier to understand the expression "read the air" by saying "read the atmosphere".
@青木赤-x7s
4 жыл бұрын
@STENNELER Jérémy 日本人が冷たいというのは悲しい勘違いです。そこだけは訂正させてください。私たちは感情を表に出さず不満を呑み込み調和を守ることを美徳とします。それは日本の災害の多さが影響しています。国境をいくつも持ち戦争や外交などが重要であったフランスやヨーロッパでは自らの意見を言い交渉することを重要視します。特にフランスは革命の国で、不満があれば自ら立ち上がりそれを表明することを大切にすることを知っています。地続きで様々な価値観が入り乱れるためにより話し合うことが大切だったと思います。(私は西洋史学を専攻しているのでフランスがどれほど複雑な歴史を歩んだのかというのは学びました!)しかし日本では周囲を海に囲まれ、孤立した環境にあり、多くの価値観が混ざり合うことがほぼありませんでした。さらに想定されるほぼ全ての災害が降りかかるため、交渉や武力は全く無意味でした。四つのプレートにまたがった日本列島では地震、火山が頻発し、海に囲まれているため津波が襲います。列島全体が台風の通り道で、夏には豪雨と40度を超える猛暑が襲います。海に対して外交をすれば津波はこないでしょうか。地面に対して武力で脅せば地震は収まるのでしょうか。日本人は自然の力に対して人間はどこまでも無力であることを知っています。出来ることは災害に備え、国民で一致団結し耐えることです。泣いても喚いても流された家は復活せず、デモをしても台風は来ます。私たちは泣かず怒らず不満を呑み込み、「しょうがない」と呟いて再び家を建てるしか選択肢がありませんでした。ここ近代に入るまでは、私たちの真の敵はいつだって権力や外の国ではなく自然でした。自然に対して無力な私たちは、せめて調和を維持し、民の対立を減らし、被害を抑え、そしてある種のあきらめを持つしかありません。大陸の端に存在し、隣り合う大きな国は中国ロシアぐらいしかありません。そして中国ロシアは資源もない端っこの島に侵略する意欲を示さず(海を超えて攻撃することは大変な苦労です)、日本は外の国との外交を必要としませんでした。少なくともヨーロッパよりも。考えれば考えるほどヨーロッパ(フランス)と日本は正反対の国です。フランスでは美徳とされることが日本では生存に不必要な悪とされ、日本で美徳とされることはフランスでは不誠実な悪となります。 最後に、日本人としても外国から日本に在住することはお勧めしません。外国人に来て欲しくないからという理由ではなく、経済発展の余地がない、受け入れる体制が整ってないなどいくつか理由は存在します。ですが、観光するにはとてもおすすめな国です。今は難しいですが、いつか私の母国に来てみてください! 治安が良く、清潔で、日本のカスタマーサービスは素晴らしく、自然や伝統文化やサブカルチャーなどさまざまな楽しさを提供できるはずです。ありがとうございました! Use a translator. It is a sad misunderstanding that the Japanese are cold. Let me correct only that. We make it a virtue to keep our emotions open, to swallow dissatisfaction and to maintain harmony. It is influenced by the number of disasters in Japan. In France and Europe, which have many borders and where war and diplomacy were important, it is important to express and negotiate their own opinions. France, in particular, is a revolutionary country, and I know that if you are dissatisfied, it is important to stand up and express it yourself. I think it was important to have more discussions because various values are mixed up in the continuum. (I majored in Western history, so I learned how complicated France went through!) However, Japan is surrounded by the sea and is in an isolated environment, with many values mixed in. It almost never fits. In addition, negotiations and armed forces were completely meaningless, as almost all possible disasters would strike. In the Japanese archipelago, which straddles four plates, earthquakes and volcanoes occur frequently, and because it is surrounded by the sea, tsunamis strike. The entire archipelago is a typhoon path, with heavy rains and intense heat of over 40 degrees Celsius in summer. Wouldn't a tsunami come if we diplomacy with the sea? Will the earthquake subside if we threaten the ground with force? The Japanese know that humans are infinitely powerless against the forces of nature. What we can do is to unite and endure the disaster in preparation for the disaster. Even if you cry or shout, the house that was washed away will not be revived, and even if you demonstrate, a typhoon will come. We had no choice but to cry, not get angry, swallow dissatisfaction, mutter "I can't help" and build the house again. Until the beginning of modern times, our true enemies have always been nature, not power or foreign nations. We, powerless to nature, have no choice but to maintain harmony, reduce conflicts, reduce damage, and have some kind of resignation. China and Russia are the only large neighboring countries on the edge of the continent. And China and Russia showed no willingness to invade the resource-poor edge islands (attacking across the sea is a daunting task), and Japan did not need diplomacy with foreign countries. At least than in Europe. The more you think about it, the more Europe (France) and Japan are the opposite countries. In France, being a virtue is an evil that is unnecessary for survival in Japan, and being a virtue in Japan is a dishonest evil in France. Finally, even as a Japanese, we do not recommend living in Japan from abroad. There are several reasons, not because you don't want foreigners to come, but because there is no room for economic development and you don't have a system to accept them. However, it is a highly recommended country for sightseeing. It's difficult now, but please come to my home country someday! It is safe and clean, the customer service in Japan is excellent, and it should be able to offer various enjoyments such as nature, traditional culture and subculture. Thank you very much!
@Vii_DT
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like there are some viewers who're wondering what the fuss is, why would someone get bothered by compliments, so let me explain: 1. It's not the compliment per se-I doubt anyone dislikes compliments-but rather _disproportionate and repetitive_ compliment that is glaringly not true. We get 'Your Japanese is good!' at the very basic phrases we say, or very basic letters we read, at almost every encounter with a new person. Then we struggle to even read menus in restaurants, or struggle to ask for simple directions. Our Japanese is not 'good' by any stretch. *We question if the speaker really means what they just say.* And when that happens over and over again, it kinda gets tiring. 2. In a different case, some people might have lived here long enough-or better yet, born and raised here-that they attained actual fluency in the language. They can have proper conversation in Japanese, yet it's not those actual fluency that brings them the compliment, but rather a simple 'hello'. Although in this case, that person would have heard it way too often that they just get on with it. 3. I don't think anyone is mad or upset by 'Your Japanese is good.' (if you do please correct me.) We just find the flattery to be over the top, questionable, and repetitive; and so make jokes out of it, like what Dogen does on a daily basis.
@primalconvoy
4 жыл бұрын
Vee_DT I usually just reply "anata mo" ("you too") whenever someone says it to me. When some become incredulous and state "but I'm Japanese!", I feign suprise and say "Oh really? I thought you were Korean/Chinese". That usually shuts them up, or gets a laugh, depending on how smart they are.
@Vii_DT
4 жыл бұрын
@@primalconvoy that's pretty harsh….
@nasibaminasi
4 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I usually just brush it off with a simple (日本語が少し分かりますけどまだ上手じゃないと思います) and move on with my life
@primalconvoy
4 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a way for them to understand what it feels like to be thought of as a foreigner, and/or treated as "the other" (as to to some ignorant people outside Asia, "They all look the same"). Also, Japan has increasingly become more ethically diverse, so my main point is "who can tell who is Japanese these days?". Language ability and how one looks aren't really accurate signs.
@seherling207
4 жыл бұрын
@@nasibaminasi I usually reply with まだまだです。 It gets annoying when they keep their "no you are really good!" as if the person hasn't made my whole sentence red a few min ago
@KN-hu8hm
4 жыл бұрын
I actually like the 日本語上手 compliment. In my home country, I very rarely get compliments at all. Any small compliments that I get, no matter what it is, I will be grateful for. Which is one of the reasons why I am more inclined to meet more Japanese people.
@sandieheron8819
4 жыл бұрын
"aaa nihongo jouzu!" - I hear this a lot. It doesn't bother me, I just act shy and say 'no, no, I'm trying to study' or hit back with, 'no no, your English is good!' - I signed up to your email list Yuta! I wanna get better at Japanese, it'll make my life in Japan so much better. One Love!
@seasesh4073
4 жыл бұрын
I have always spoke English everyone thinks I was born in the UK and no one compliments me when I speak it :( But for some reason they praise my Arabic which is weird since getting complimented on your first language is unusual lol
@Name-jw4sj
4 жыл бұрын
I learned arabic and live in the States. And arabic people don't praise me when they hear my arabic, they instead insult me saying that I have a thick american accent when I speak arabic lmao.
@urfavoritehumanbean879
4 жыл бұрын
Same, I can pull off some accents, I've never had a British person tell me what city in the UK I sound like I'm from but Americans say I have a New York accent.
@hexyko4850
4 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and it took me years to have a fake English accent and it's still a bit of a mess because it's mixed with Scottish pronunciations. You should be proud to have a UK accent without even trying haha
@itswa30
4 жыл бұрын
I think getting no praise is actually the best compliment, you speak to someone in their language and they speak back without assuming you're currently learning the language, which means they just think you're completely fluent enough to understand everything
@WeirdAlSuperFan
4 жыл бұрын
@@itswa30 preach
@-Raylight
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Dogen, I already had 日本語上手 PTSD since a long time ago xD
The "your japanese is good" when I just say hi is hella annoying for sure. But when I talk a couple sentences and people ask me if perhaps I was born and raised in Japan I do feel happy for a moment, then proceed to do a bunch of grammar mistakes because of the excitement lol another compliment I like is "it feels as if I'm talking to a japanese person", even though sometimes it is just them exaggerating it.
@CottidaeSEA
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the exaggeration is what gets to me. It's so exaggerated that it becomes a lie. If you can actually hold a very casual conversation like you described, then I think it's fine to get a compliment.
@chandlerplays1685
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have convos with Japanese people in VR and I say I've been learning for about 2 years but I'm still not good and that I come on VRChat to talk to Japanese people in Japanese for practice, they cut me off and say "上手いよ" ... Just because they can understand everything I say doesn't mean that my Japanese is good 😭
@alexiarowan7781
4 жыл бұрын
@@chandlerplays1685 What does that mean? Were they cutting you off to tell you that your japanese sucked? Cuz damn that's harsh.
@Zaru7t10
4 жыл бұрын
I was in Japan in 2018 and I can speak pretty good japanese. People said many times that my japanese was good. I can admit it made me feel good tbh. It was nice to see peoples reaction when I spoke aswell.
@kenjbull78
4 жыл бұрын
"That's too demanding". I kinda agree with the last interviewee...
@Tradewindrain
4 жыл бұрын
If I had a penny for every time a foreigner had to hear 日本語上手...
@DevynCairns
4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't bother me at all. It never comes from a bad place. It's unfamiliar and surprising and people are genuinely impressed. It's not the same situation where you're ignorant if you're surprised someone who doesn't look like you can speak English well. The number of tourists who come to Japan and struggle to communicate is huge and that's what people mostly have experience with. So it's a nice surprise for people when there's someone who makes any kind of effort.
@wanderingthomas
4 жыл бұрын
I liked the compliments. When your japanese is upper intermediate/advanced you won't get the compliments anymore. Instead, people are often confused and wondering why is this person fluent, there must be something behind it.
@ThreadBomb
4 жыл бұрын
"They have too much pride." Oof, that's a solid burn.
@Allanchan-nel
4 жыл бұрын
From a Japanese person? Not really. They are exceptionally prideful as a generalised rule....
@Vulcapyro
4 жыл бұрын
I think the interviewer phrased it in a way that made it seem more prideful than it is. "I don't like nihongo jouzu because I think my japanese is better than the other people you say nihongo jouzu to" _is_ an overly prideful attitude, but that isn't a very good way of phrasing why it's bothersome.
@清水舜也-l7d
4 жыл бұрын
if you take that phrase as solid burn, that fact make you have more too much pride.
@needlessToo
4 жыл бұрын
@@Allanchan-nel It's not the same kind of pride. From my experience Japanese people usually take pride in their work, attitude, discipline, but not in themselves. Self deprecation is very common.
@Allanchan-nel
4 жыл бұрын
@@needlessToo I live here. They might say "I'm not good at....なになに" a lot, but there's 100% a superiority complex over other countries here.
@primalconvoy
4 жыл бұрын
I think the terms "patronising" and "damning with faint praise" are relevant here. It's also an issue with (foreign/"foreign-looking") people in Japan who are fluent in Japanese. The idea of complimenting their language skills suggests they are "outsiders" and somehow "unable" to understand an elite language or culture, such as Japan (suggesting that "only Japanese (looking) people" understand it). A perhaps similar concept is for (white) people to "compliment" black people on being "well spoken".
@bento4876
4 жыл бұрын
Meh. It's not a big deal. People are way to sensitive about silly stuff.
@okuchisezembourds4529
4 жыл бұрын
True
@jasamsheja285
4 жыл бұрын
It's like a leaky faucet in the middle of the night
@vornamenachname4118
4 жыл бұрын
I've been living abroad for a few years now and even though these types of comments really annoyed me at first, I eventually got used to them. People are just trying to be nice usually. I find the best response is just to thank them and ask them about their language skills. If someone keeps praising you, take them aside and explain how that makes you feel. I find offering examples really helps here. The "would you like it if I praised you every time you pronounced an English loan word correctly?" line usually helps them understand why their praise could get tedious. It was a really interesting video, thanks. PS: Don't expect strangers to be honest or correct your mistakes. Get yourself a few close friends and ask them to brutally and without mercy correct you. It can be pretty fun actually. 😆
@Sasukeuchiha131000
4 жыл бұрын
i dunno if you'll see this, yuta, but... while i imagine somewhat that your videos typically having a script already may warp my perspective somewhat, i think your english is at a really advanced level. you have little issue expressing yourself and understanding culturally what it's like to be outside of your native country. this is important to learning language as well, i feel, and is something a lot of people have trouble doing in certain cultural contexts (hence you making these kinds of videos to demonstrate the differences in culture with general public perception.) i will say you have a fairly thick japanese accent, but understanding you isn't particularly difficult, and you put emphasis on words in generally the right place, so your sentences flow well. your communication, at least to the camera lol, is really smooth i feel. it may not *sound* exactly like a native speaker with the accent you still have, but i would say your communication is pretty close to native level just from my impression of watching you for years.
@aoklkonaka4269
4 жыл бұрын
The problem is not in words, but in your heart. Because you have the habit of looking down on people, you feel misunderstood by people's favor and feel that you are being looked down on.
@haldir108
4 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite interview vids in a while. The difficulty in processing the outsider perspective was massive.
@toluca0501
4 жыл бұрын
Praises are always welcome, but like the girl in the video said, praising someone when all they said was hi can come off as rude and sarcastic. I'm thinking this is just a cultural difference. People are just over-reacting.
@Snorlax9
4 жыл бұрын
I think the way you make the compliment matters. I would be very happy to see foreigners trying to communicate in my language, even if they dont speak fluently. Its a kind of a manner as a guest in foreign country, in return I will be happy to show my hospitality.
@zarfdragon
4 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear it, because even when it's a bit ridiculous (saying one word and getting immediately praised) the point is they were being friendly and wanted to say something kind. We should be thankful for that, certainly not annoyed, which is quite rude in my opinion.
@lllstripeslll
4 жыл бұрын
I am always happy to receive a compliment from someone about my Japanese. If someone doesn't like being complimented then they are just too sensitive in my opinion. I don't think pandering to these kinds of people will help them in the long run. People shouldn't have to second guess kindness around others because people are too sensitive..
@Hevendemo
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I moved from japan to the US and I heard "wow you can speak english well" it was honestly kinda insulting.
@Nyponblomma
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video Yuta! I got complimented like this when I lived in Japan. I also got a lot of "you are so good at using chopsticks!" or "Ooooh you like natto! I thought ALL foreigners hated that!" I have mixed feelings about such compliments. I understand that they aren't meant to be patronizing but they do feel like that. I think the issue can be that sometimes when I have gotten these compliments, my language level has been irrelevant. Like I might have said just a few words and then I got so much praise. I don't think it is pride, it's just that the balance between what I did and the praise I got for it was waaaaay off. I don't think many are genuinely upset but that they are having a laugh with other foreigners who live/have lived in Japan or speak Japanese. (There are a lot of things I can only talk about with fellow foreigners who have lived in Japan, because my other friends wouldn't understand.) Like "look we can't even escape it in video games lmao!" kind of thing. It could also be that people don't like the feeling of all us foreigners being put into one single group. It's like there is this stereotype of what a foreigner is and we must act accordingly to that. I think it might be easier to explain or talk to Japanese people about this if you talk about stereotypes of different prefectures or regions in Japan. There are a lot of assumptions made about different regions which are false. Overall it is a complicated topic to talk about. You could either have a serious or a lighthearted discussion. And it can go from funny(and mildly annoying) all the way to hurtful and harmful. It is not easy to be a foreigner in any country and Japan is no exception but I do believe that most Japanese people don't mean to be hurtful, they just aren't aware of what they are doing.
@akoyisangpinoy4705
4 жыл бұрын
i think your brain is just overthinking . even if Japanese talk behind your back or mock you, don't mind them. their lives will not improve in any way. i think its just a product of their polite culture. we just need to be more open minded. and if you didn't enjoy your experience in Japan, don't force yourself to go back. there are many other countries to go to
@babygorl9541
4 жыл бұрын
"the balance between what I did and the praise I got for it was waaaaay off." exactly!!! it feels like getting praised for taking a poop and not missing the toilet! "wowww u did good poopy!!! no messy!!!" -___- lady... i'm 24 years old
@Nyponblomma
4 жыл бұрын
@@babygorl9541 Yeah exactly that! And sometimes it's the same thing when I got scolded for stuff. (Then again people tend to be pretty high strung at work in Japan.)
@Nyponblomma
4 жыл бұрын
@@akoyisangpinoy4705 Possibly but I don't think it can be brushed off like that in every case. And it is easy to say to yourself "don't think about it" but it will gradually affect you. Believe me I tried very hard to be open minded but one person can't do all that needs to be done by themselves. Japan and Japanese people need to be more open and inclusive too. It takes two to tango as they say. True I can go to another country if I want to but now we were talking about issues in Japan. They will remain there regardless unless something is done about it. I know this was a lighthearted video and you can just see it for the fun. I can laugh about stuff like that too...just that I read some comments and thought about writing a bit more seriously because fun and comedy can be good Segway into having more serious discussions. I love Japan but we have to be able to talk about the not so good things or things that could be done better. The relationship between foreigners and Japan need to be healthier for both sides sake.
@matilda4664
4 жыл бұрын
i love this language so much. i have a lot to learn but i hope i can stay strong and persevere because i absolutely love the culture there, and your videos keep me going. thank you so much !
@yamigekusu
4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of being praised for something- I was in the hospital a few years back waiting to have one of my dysfunctional organs removed. I asked the nurses if they had some paper and pens so I could doodle to pass the time. I then proceeded to doodle away. A few hours later, one of the nurses came to check on me and saw my drawings. She said, "Oh wowww you're so talented!" like in the way you would praise a little kid doing a task for the first time. This happened a couple of other times while I was in the hospital. While it felt good to get compliments, being talked to like that kinda made me feel a bit *uncomfortable*
@yaycupcake
4 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who visited Japan and went to an idol handshake event. They were told "nihongo jouzu desu ne" before they even said ANYTHING. Just because they weren't Japanese lol. It's almost a joke at this point. I think Japanese people just do it without realizing, since it's not like Japanese is spoken as a primary language outside Japan (as opposed to English for example which is spoken in many countries like the US, UK, Australia, Canada, etc). I don't think any malice is intended when Japanese people say this. But for us Japanese language learners it's a common thing to hear. I think the reason this post went viral (I commented on it too when I saw it on my twitter feed) is because many Japanese learners KNOW this situation, and the sheer irony of it showing up in a videogame in this fashion is just funny. I don't think it's meant as malicious at all in the game's context, or even unknowing. I think the devs or translators or whoever decided this just knows that this is a thing that just happens, and decided to poke fun at the situation itself. Personally I like it, I just find it funny that the Japanese language part of the game is sort of poking fun at their own.
@7a7l7e7x7
4 жыл бұрын
ive been really excited for the new animal crossing because it seemed like a great way to get some Japanese reading practice so that cute and thoughtful detail was really nice:)
I love these interviews. They are always a lot of fun. :)
@BlueKutsu
4 жыл бұрын
Love hearing some of the interviewees speaking Kansai-ben. Good video.
@justapickedminfan
4 жыл бұрын
I get nihongo jouzu'd by other foreigners in Japan. I often work with filipinos and Vietnamese and Nepalese, and even they seem to be surprised I know Japanese. Heck, I'm been unironically told my Japanese is very good by an american ALT!
@jukes4499
4 жыл бұрын
I'm very thankful that video games today have the graphical sharpness to include furigana. Not to mention longer development cycles to give the teams more time. Video games are pretty much the main way I practice other languages! (Playing Halo Reach in Italian sounds like a daytime drama, it's so goddamn funny)
To put things in perspective, a lot of the tweets traction also comes from people oblivious of the whole “ojouzu” ordeal, commenting on the dialogues wholesomeness instead. Most of us aren’t making that big of a deal as Yuta suggests. (I’ve been “nihongojozued” too and didn’t mind the game dialogue at all)
@Lenzer444
4 жыл бұрын
Reading this while playing AC made me really happy since I'm in a stage of learning Japanese where I am glad to hear something like this :D
@doioz
4 жыл бұрын
When I was in Japan last autumn the first time in my life, knowing really little japanese and just a few words, I always felt flattered not only when I got the opportunity to show, that I know some words in their language, but also when they reacted positively. In my country, I would also compliment everyone trying to speak my language, who seems to be not coming from my country. Yes, even if they just say a word or two. I think I give them a compliment which most times is honestly meant, and also make them more comfortable in my country and speaking my language. I get that for someone living in Japan or studying japanese for a long time this could sound falsely praised but it's always just nicely meant and that should be common sense.
@patc694
4 жыл бұрын
日本語上手ですね i do think 3:55 is right... like the furigana too. looks like you can use it for some vocabulary learning.
@Mariofan7
4 жыл бұрын
These guys were all interesting to hear. Some of them even got the complaint, so good on them!
@theichytype
4 жыл бұрын
I tried to play it in Japanese, thinking I could learn Japanese with it, then it took me 30 minutes to just get through the first airport scene because I had to google every character.
@白い紙-v1e
4 жыл бұрын
もう"日本語お上手ですね"をあいさつのように使うのはやめるべきですね。
@keithpantaleon2427
4 жыл бұрын
This channel is very informative, especially to people like me who is really interested in the culture. Just one suggestion, it would be great to add japanese subtitles also to your videos, so that people, especially beginners who are studying the language, can check the flow of words, how to say something in japanese, and maybe learn some new japanese words. It would be very helpful, thanks!
@thundie
4 жыл бұрын
Something people might not realize is not everyone gets this compliment so easily; it's actually also a judgment of your character. Let me give a different example. I was juggling a lot in Japan, and so was my equally skilled friend. But since I made things look easy, I acted natural, and I had generally good mannerisms, many people would compliment me. On the other hand, my friend got less attention in general (at first) since he was a bit aggressive and showing off. So it's not just WHAT you can do, but how you do it and also your character as a whole. So please take it as a compliment!
@inuinuinuinuinu
4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. As a foreigner myself, this kind of thing doesn't bother me because I believe people's intentions when praising are genuine even if my Japanese is poor. But I really appreciate the empathy from the people in the video once they understand why it bothers certain foreigners!
@zehaha
3 жыл бұрын
If I compliment someone's language skills, I'm comparing them to other foreigners, not natives. So if I were to say "Yuta, your English is really good!" It's a sincere comment on your skill *compared* *to* *other* *people* *who* *don't* *speak* *English* *as* *their* *first* *language* not compared to natives. It's unbelievably difficult to match a native person's language skills (pronunciation, flow of speech, talking speed etc) that honestly, no one speaks "really good" when compared to a native. Like, if you had a person be born into an English-speaking family and they develop an accent, no one would say "Really good!" they'd be "wtf is wrong with this child?!". People need to get over this excessive need of matching a native person's language level. That being said, being complimented when you can barely for a sentence and you completely butcher the pronunciation is insincere af
@yokkabai
4 жыл бұрын
It’s impossible to make an absolute critical assessment of anyone’s language ability from a short conversation. So if someone compliments me, I take it as there must be some truth to it, otherwise they wouldn’t say it - but understand that it is what it is - a kind compliment, and a conversation talking point 「ネタ」. I am truly grateful for it (who doesn’t appreciate a compliment!) , appreciate it as a charming and endearing part of Japan, but try not to think too much into it. Definitely it is not a negative. 褒められる事には感謝しかない。 If anything it reminds me I must always study more. So, I always answer - 「いいえ、いいえ、漢字も難しいし、単語も全然知りません。」 やっぱり、勉強せんば上手くならん!^_^ 「日本語お上手ですね」と言われた日本語を学んでいる皆んなさん、頑張りましょう!!
@hauptmann25
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Yuta, your english is so good!
@jadeoon5397
4 жыл бұрын
on the other hand im an asian living in the UK and as I walk on the streets strangers just shouts 'ni hao' or 'konnichiwa' to me without even knowing what my first language is. I think thats a million times more of an insult. Oh also people in the UK would say i speak v good english and try to guess where I am from. When I told them simgapor they would say things like I bet your teacher is american. When I say no my teacher is singaporean they would not believe me.
@wandersgion4989
4 жыл бұрын
Obviously people have good intentions when they compliment your language ability. I hardly ever get Nihongo-jyozu’d anymore because I live in a university town with tons of foreign students that speak fluent Japanese, but when I lived in a more rural town it really was annoying to have the same exact conversation with every person-like talking to a bunch of NPCs.
I personally think that people who get offended when they get praised for speaking 'good' Japanese even when they don't speak very little are overreacting. There is nothing wrong with praising someone to give them more confidence in a language that is not their first. That being said if someone praised you for just saying 'Konnichiwa’ (Hello) every time I can maybe see the frustration. I always let my foreign friends know that their English is getting good or decent when they speak so they have more confidence to speak it more.
@DeHaos
4 жыл бұрын
You got to start from somewhere right?
@DeHaos
4 жыл бұрын
But when they say 日本語が上手 I just say 日本語を齧って程度ですが。
@Psiboi89
4 жыл бұрын
I got this message and was very pleased/excited that they included a a cute Easter egg for foreigners, I also don't live in Japan (and have never even been there) so I took it as a compliment :)
@TortugaMapa
4 жыл бұрын
This is such an American thing. They like to feel offended about everything and complaint about everything
@nonsenseuser2450
4 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@isabel-eq8gm
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine this. You're born in Japan, but you look like super white or something for some reason. You stand out as a gaijin, but Japanese is your native language. Every time you talk to someone, they say "aaa, nihongojouzudesune!!" You constantly feel 'othered', no? Or imagine, you are an American born Chinese person with flawless English. Every time you say "excuse me" or whatever, other Americans go "WOWW, YOUR ENGLISH IS GREAT." It'd get tiring really quickly, no?
@pondypoo
3 жыл бұрын
@@isabel-eq8gm So basically, you feel like the world constantly revolves around you. Yep, very American
@peteyboo
3 жыл бұрын
@@pondypoo I, too, sometimes confuse "empathizing with others who may be in a similar situation" with "feeling like the world revolves around you". Very similar concepts, super east to mix up.
@melindamercier6811
4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I guess I kind of understand the insincerity being a “problem”, however wouldn’t assuming that someone isn’t Japanese living abroad be more of an issue? Or assuming that there aren’t people around the world who grew up with Japanese as their first language? That seems to stand out to me more.
@asdfgh6210
4 жыл бұрын
yea im pretty sure thats what most people would have problems with
Just so people know, the line from Animal Crossing is very similar to the one in the video if you say you live in Japan anyway while playing in JPN setting. It's not just if you select a different country. So lots of Japanese players have found it amusing and even talked down their own language skills.
@dennisweng2619
4 жыл бұрын
its part of their culture.. i dont think there are any issues~~
@YusufAlMansouri
4 жыл бұрын
At first, I couldn’t really understand why Japanese people would compliment someone like that but then I just remembered that I’m from Pakistani origin (I was born and raised in France though). I think the number of foreigners (by foreigners I mean someone who is not from South Asia or Afghanistan) living in Pakistan is lower than in Japan so whenever a foreigner would just say his name in our language, I’d compliment him. Don’t know why I did that and I realized through this video that it was exactly what Japanese people tend to do to foreigners. I don’t think it’s because they’re underestimating foreigners, I just think it’s because they don’t know any foreigners who speak Japanese so it can be quite a shock for them.
@TROLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOO
4 жыл бұрын
We got to the point where people get offended by actual compliments. Let that sink in.
@Crouton-
4 жыл бұрын
I understand why it can be tiring hearing after like 10 years but I still don't see it as a big deal just expect it and move on.
@OntarioTrafficMan
4 жыл бұрын
People are not being offended by compliments. They are tired of compliments which have no relationship to the actual thing being complimented. In other words they are frustrated by insincerity.
@Ripcraze
4 жыл бұрын
@@OntarioTrafficMan In the west many are offended by actual compliments. It can even be seen as sexual assasult if you say it to the wrong white woman.
@OntarioTrafficMan
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ripcraze I have heard of that as well, but that's not what they're talking about here.
@Ripcraze
4 жыл бұрын
@@OntarioTrafficMan It's actually exactly about what was said in the original comment. Sorry I might've just answered you since it was the most recent answer in the thread, I didn't actually mean to respond to your comment, that's my bad.
@yasashii89
4 жыл бұрын
I try meowing to my cat and he never compliments me, he just looks at me as though I'm a moron.
Honestly had no idea that would be the reaction. I would feel happy tbh. Since it’s a game I wouldn’t find it annoying or insincere. If you’re comprehending the text then there is credibility in the statement. It isn’t like in real life where you would be like “私はnameです” and then you’re told “oh your Japanese is so good!” And then you’re like “...uh... thanks.” If you’re playing the game in Japanese, then your Japanese IS pretty dang good. I would feel proud of myself and quite flattered.
@sintes88
4 жыл бұрын
What I've noticed with learning French was that when I wasn't that good, I always got praised for my French. But when I really got good and hardly did any mistakes, this stopped completely. Instead I started hearing remarks like - are any of your parents French? lol
@skirak9109
4 жыл бұрын
Is this filmed in Osaka? I think there’s some Okasa accent... either way it doesn’t sound like the typical Tokyo accent. About the compliment, I get it can be annoying to half-Japanese (who look like foreigners) or those who’ve lived in Japan for a long time. I can speak Japanese too but not that fluent, so it makes me happy if someone were to praise me. I think we can just take the compliment haha (but be humble about it, because Japan is all about that humbleness).
Very interesting subject. I never thought about that!
@TMTLive
4 жыл бұрын
I was super surprised to see this line in AC when I started playing. Rather than being annoyed I just started laughing though. It's very accurate to reality and a subtle detail they added even if there was no need to, I really appreciate it even though I understand why the 日本語上手 meme is what it is.
@kirsten7467
4 жыл бұрын
I got praised too by an elderly gentlemen in the subway who really wanted to speak English with me because he worked in Europe when he was young (this was in Osaka btw). My Japanese is really basic but he was being kind to me. It was nice. That is just a way to compliment a person and to make contact. I don't find it condescending at all.
@seahawkers101
4 жыл бұрын
It's not a simple case of just speaking a few simple words and getting complimented on it. Yeah that's annoying. If you can read everything in Animal Crossing in Japanese, yeah, your Japanese skills are pretty good.
@hexyko4850
4 жыл бұрын
A true test of Japanese skills would be reading a full length, complex visual novel or maybe playing a text-heavy RPG.
@NathanRichan
4 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that when the people in this video answer questions, they tend to look at their friend rather than the interviewer.
@user-mt3uf1mc2e
4 жыл бұрын
yeah thats pretty common. Its also like when you're in a conversation with two other people you might notice that the person talking looks towards just one person and not the other. I think its because you like to focus on a person who is more familiar to you.
@urfavoritehumanbean879
4 жыл бұрын
TDR ❤️
@CampaignerSC
3 жыл бұрын
Hivemind.
@Soosane
4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Japan for over half my life (15years) and am now fluent. Even then, I still always got the Nihongo jozu! With almost every new encounter. A lot of these comments are people who are Japanese learners and would like to be complimented on their Japanese which is fine but as someone who lived there for a lot of my life it felt condescending when people assumed I couldn’t speak Japanese and were “surprised” at my fluency just because I don’t look like a typical Japanese person.
It’s cool to look at the way different cultures look at foreigners trying to learn their language. Like in my experience talking to german people, their mentality is wanting you to learn. They’ll give you tips on what you’re saying like “That was pretty good, but you conjugated that verb wrong” or “The conjunction you wanna use is ‘sondern’ which I know is a weird one for Americans.” It’s so cool to me.
@thomasmedina5627
4 жыл бұрын
Woahhh I legit haven’t thought about this in ages.
@winterheat
4 жыл бұрын
yeah, I'd feel happy if I go to Japan and speak 50% Japanese and they told me I speak well. Actually, the same if a westerner come to Hong Kong and they can say 50% Cantonese and we praise them, many of them feel happy. What I don't understand is, I speak 90% English well. But when people in Silicon Valley heard I have some accent, they frowned on it. One recruiter told me, because I have an accent, she knows that startup company would not hire me. Nice people.
@michaelwolf6692
4 жыл бұрын
I understand and sometimes felt the same way but i don't like complain about it. People just wana be kind and that's how people should take it imho. And to be real it's more special if you can speak Japanese as a visitor and most people be more open/friendly when a foreigner speaks your language.
@MelodiousRhyme
4 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to play Animal Crossing in Japanese
@Maderyne
4 жыл бұрын
I suppose I would consider it as shallow praise, a kindness but sincere? I wonder.
@mbabubak
4 жыл бұрын
5th lady caught my attention 🧐 Coming back to the topic. Never heard of this issue before, but not surprising since it's common Japanese politeness. Heck, if a foreigner start to say a word or two from my local language, I'd be surprised, bordering on a praise. The feeling of being mocked due to a compliment of such a thing is likely due to difference in culture.
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