Dude the Cobra gun! Who remembers that movie!? Lol. It had that big ass, retro red Lazer on it too😂
@krissteel4074
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was some kind of laser sight about the full length of the gun, probably weighed about as much too. I believe there was one in Red Dawn (80's version) in the trainyard shoot out- sans laser
@mac76239
2 жыл бұрын
@@krissteel4074 yup I think you're right. Damn I miss the 80s LOL
@XtreeM_FaiL
2 жыл бұрын
Most used gun in Tervis.
@razieldrakis
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, that's the one.
@SnoopReddogg
2 жыл бұрын
That laser sight wasn't retro when the movie came out.
@joaoie
2 жыл бұрын
I was able to hold one as a kid, my godfather (very much not Finnish) owned one and it was the first firearm I touched. Because of that, up until this video I had no idea how rare it is.
@Glurgi
2 жыл бұрын
I think @notamaeiole also met your father and his gun ;) Joking of course, although it would be hilarious if that was the case :D
@andrewsuryali8540
2 жыл бұрын
Godfather, eh?
@benjaminhenegar291
2 жыл бұрын
So cool
@ninus17
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsuryali8540 he gave him an offer he couldn't refuse
@SargenttSkroonk
2 жыл бұрын
Must have been one of the guns that went 'missing' 🤭
@Toggers99
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the sheer simplicity of the weapon from an engineering perspective, but the non-parallel design of the PDW between the body and the barrel makes my brain itch.
@markuskoivisto
2 жыл бұрын
It’s designed that way to prevent muzzle climb.
@Toggers99
2 жыл бұрын
@@markuskoivisto I did hear that part, but then he immediately pointed out what I thought would happen, people would try to aim by holding the body parallel to the ground which was not correct. Aesthetics are not the priority when designing weapons, but sometimes form and function are intertwined.
@stevenclark2188
2 жыл бұрын
@@Toggers99 Encouraged by the lack of stock so there's no place to put your face when using the sights.
@lairdcummings9092
2 жыл бұрын
A case study in ergonomics. Ergonomics don't just mean "making it comfortable to use;" they're also important in making it so that the equipment is *used correctly.* Bad ergonomics can make otherwise well-crafted equipment effectively useless.
@klausbrinck2137
2 жыл бұрын
@@markuskoivisto He means the upper receiver-half not being parallel, and that has nothing to do with preventing muzzle-climb, which is also the reason, that "golden gun"-company changed that, going from an upper receiver-half with a disturbing deep curve, to a straght one...The only function previously was aesthetics, meaning, the upper receiver-half being parallel to the lower receiver-half... "Golden Gun" changed that, which made it less nice-looking, but also less disturbing while shooting
@rickdollings7382
2 жыл бұрын
Having a sling attachment point on what is essentially the disassembly lever seems like a recipe for a bad time.
@meatpuppet5036
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@alaric_
2 жыл бұрын
In my understanding, that was the biggest flaw with it for governments. Too big to holster so sling is required in practical use, but that almost quarantees that it will disassemble itself sooner rather then later. For me it's weird how a gun designer who obviously knew his job, didn't come up with anything else to prevent that from happening. Some kind of simple two sided spring catch required to be pressed would have prevented any of the problems...
@blackwoodsecurity531
2 жыл бұрын
@@alaric_ or just run the sling through a hole in the grip.
@johncox2865
2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. One wrong move and the thing disassembles it’s itself.
@weeveferrelaine6973
2 жыл бұрын
@@johncox2865 I thought that at first too, but then the sling would be pulling on the mount. Unless the gun is upside down and facing you, pulling would try and close the level, not open it up- the direction of force is wrong for normal use of the gun to disassemble itself. Though, who wants to take that risk, I guess? Some freak accidents and stuff does happen sometimes
@notamaeiole
2 жыл бұрын
Also one thing Jatimatic was famous (or infamous) here in Finland was a series of post office robberies back in early 90's. I remember being around 7 or 8 years old when i saw the local post office being robbed and i still remember the silhuette of Jatimatic that 2nd one of the robbers carried
@paskaalisaapaskaa5354
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it was one of those that got stolen from the factory. I might be incorrect, but i do remember seeing a jatimatic in midst of confiscated firearms that were found while police raided biker gang's club house.
@severivuorenoja5282
2 жыл бұрын
@@paskaalisaapaskaa5354 There totally was a photo like that published some years back, in Alibi magazine at least I think? Considering the overall scarcity of the gun, that gun pretty much has to be one of those stolen ones.
@sjyfgbei4056
2 жыл бұрын
There was also rumours about illegal workshop at Helsinki area that manufactured these guns.
@casioak1683
2 жыл бұрын
Why post office though.. not bank?
@JG54206
2 жыл бұрын
What exactly were they robbing the post office for?
@Payne427
2 жыл бұрын
Just by looking at it. I would've never guessed Finland. It looks like it dropped right out of South Africa
@KingBattlon
2 жыл бұрын
I'd say South Africa, they always have funky designs.
@Payne427
2 жыл бұрын
@@KingBattlon that's actually what I meant to put in. Gotta love auto correct.
@KingBattlon
2 жыл бұрын
@@Payne427 Gotch gotcha. Really does look like it belongs alongside the Vektor, Neopup, and BXP.
@Taistelukalkkuna
2 жыл бұрын
@@nickaschenbecker9882 It also appears in original Red Dawn. As PM-63 replacement.
@lysanderxiii2335
2 жыл бұрын
There were actually two versions of the second variety Jati-matics (the type with the straight inclined receiver top), both of which were tested by the US Army in 1990. Both did come with a detachable stock but one had a rotating lever-type selector similar to an M16 in addition to the foregrip safety. According to the Army report, the manufacturer stated the change was to: "...to improve user confidence in the weapon. Initial feedback to the manufacturer showed that some less experienced users did not feel comfortable with the 2-stage pressure sensitive trigger. Thus, a weapon was developed to manually switch between the two modes of fire." All in all the Army found the Jati-matic was reasonably easy to control, either one or two handed, light, and probably cheap/easy to make. On the down side they found the sights lacking and the stock difficult to affix and detach, and when attached bulky. AD B150821 - Technical Report ARCCD-TR-90005, "Evaluation of the 'JATI-MATIC' 9 mm SMG," Dec 1990, Gregg L. Gibson, U.S. Army Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center, Close Combat Armaments Center, Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey
@Gorgane100
2 жыл бұрын
If my memory serves me right there was a semiauto prototype made with a stock and longer barrel aimed at the US civilian market. I remember seeing a photo in a 80's Finnish ASE-magazine. Jali got the idea for the gun when his .22 target pistol prototype with the same slanted design malfunctioned and emptied the whole magazine in the blink of an eye. When he went to see his target he noticed that all the bullets were grouped relatively close together when one would think that the first shot would be on target and the rest in the sky. He had his heureka moment there but sadly the end product wasn't quite up to par.
@Chiller01
2 жыл бұрын
Heureka Moment is now part of my personal lexicon. Thank you!
@danspragens4935
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chiller01 FWIW, the "h" sound is actually correct in ancient Greek, though this is the first I've seen it written this way in English. A very cool "typo."
@kallemort
2 жыл бұрын
@@danspragens4935 It's typically written as "heureka!" in Finnish, at least.
@danspragens4935
2 жыл бұрын
@@kallemort Not terribly surprised to hear, but it's cool to see since I've never seen it rendered like that in English.
@Chiller01
2 жыл бұрын
@@danspragens4935 I’m not being either ironic or sarcastic. Having moved from the US to Canada my autocorrect is British. Colour has replaced color and grey has replaced gray. This is just an evolution into Finnish/English, as I’m not conversant in Ancient Greek.
@Deraxion
2 жыл бұрын
In the nineties when I was 6-7 years old, me and some friends of mine were playing with wooden "guns" which were tree branches really, and the best ones were called Jatimatics :D I really dont know where the name came, but I would quess someones older brother or father had seen Cobra and told his kid the name. But the name always was a synonym for the best wooden branch gun in our childhood games.
@zaphodqi122
2 жыл бұрын
thought the thumbnail was "Jamimatic"
@Matt-xc6sp
2 жыл бұрын
That’s the 1911 Boomers destroyed
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920
2 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-xc6sp they see you trollin’, they hate it.
@mikepj67
2 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@pepepantuflas1
2 жыл бұрын
That's the tec-9 even though it's such a beautiful gun
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920
2 жыл бұрын
@@samholdsworth420 call an ambulance, but not for you!😁
@BatCaveOz
2 жыл бұрын
Take this to the range, please. Also, I thought I remembered Ian covering the Jatimatic in an earlier video. I searched in the main channel, and he did... way back in 2012! Production values have significantly increased 😁
@buzzkrieger3913
2 жыл бұрын
Royal Armouries covered this wonky gun 3 months ago.
@jameskazd9951
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, seemed familiar, but a better quality video of a previously covered firearm is always welcomed
@ryanpeck3377
2 жыл бұрын
Guess Im not crazy and imagining things than 😆
@titiparisien7485
2 жыл бұрын
Same here!!
@forrest225
2 жыл бұрын
I was also wondering where I had seen this covered before lol.
@itsapittie
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that FIRE on the bolt is deeply engraved means you could feel it as well as see it. That's a nice touch which could help you check its status in the dark.
@nutbastard
2 жыл бұрын
"feel it" ... "nice touch" - pun intended?
@XtreeM_FaiL
Жыл бұрын
Great addon for blind people.
@AshleyPomeroy
2 жыл бұрын
If only the episode had opened with "I'm Ian McCollum, and crime is a disease. This is the cure."
@jten1116
2 жыл бұрын
There was a rumor, back in the day, that there were several of these made with same serial numbers from the factory...Buddy of mine told me that he had some acquaintance, connection etc to someone close to the factory and he was offered one "under the table "...I would guess this was at the end, after no contracts for military etc had materialized and money was tight... My buddy declined, he was intrigued of the gun in technical point of view but he didn't want anything to do with any illegal activities. (He was quite a tinker and always interested in some technical gadgets) I also heard at least one instance when one, ehm, group had bought one of these(they were no robbers etc, just "Jatimatic? Yeah cool gun, how much?"), and one of the guys decided that after a couple of beers it was a magnificent idea to shoot full auto burst from the back door to the ground in backyard. With closest house with occupants being a few hundred yards away. And closest police station 10 mins away. That gun was probably thrown into a close by river at that same night.... I also happened to see in mid90s a brochure of the Golden Gun Jatimatics. I always thought that their brochure was the worst. I mean you are trying to sell PDW to some military, LE etc. And then you come up with this brochure that has your guns displayed with guys next to a Finnish APC, Pasi, guys wearing camo. And holding GOLD plated PDWs....Yeah, gold plated....Hence "Golden Gun"....
@Taistelukalkkuna
2 жыл бұрын
*Tviiuu Tviiuu* Nyt lähdet lusimaan. Saanko heittää Jati-Maticcini jokeen? No heitä. *FIUUUUU PLUMPS!*
@Pelleministeri
2 жыл бұрын
Hyvää juhannusta!
@F4Wildcat
2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a weapon that comes from a vending machine
@Hysteria98
2 жыл бұрын
Or a Kinder Egg Surprise.
@Eye_Exist
2 жыл бұрын
True legends know Jatimatic from finnish TV series Vintiöt
@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts
2 жыл бұрын
Another SMG I just remembered from the old Jane's publications was a small SMG that Parker Hale was working on would love to se you get your hands on that one day.
@MikJ132
2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a fictional weapon an early PS2 would have
@LizardKingTF2Halo174
2 жыл бұрын
Right? Like straight out of resident evil lmao
@RevBoose
2 жыл бұрын
It was also in a limited-edition Marvel series called Mad Dog, of course back in the 80's. Character in the story says that Mad Dog chose it because it was able to be fired one-handed full-auto and be controllable.
@VorpalDerringer
2 жыл бұрын
The comic was from DC, called Wild Dog, and it was probably meant to compete with Marvel's Punisher. He did have a Jatimatic, though. The insane part is how the reporter in the first story describes Wild Dogs use of body armor, tasers, and a couple other gadgets as giving him "comparable performance to Superman". I did wonder why the Jatimatic was claimed to be so controllable, since comic writers usually get about half of their gun facts right (Larry Hama excepted). This video explains a lot about the claim.
@RevBoose
2 жыл бұрын
@@VorpalDerringer Yes, sorry, Wild Dog! Right! The Committee For Social Change! "We are not left wing, nor are we right wing, we simply... ARE!" Now it's all flooding back! That was from a time when I was buying comics left and right, and Wild Dog came out at the same time as Marvel's New Universe (also a flop), and I had conflated them in my head as all being from the same company! Now I've got the original cover in my head... thanks!
@RevBoose
2 жыл бұрын
@YT The character in the comic did it at arm’s-length. Accurate automatic fire while crashing a truck through a barrier. Comic book physics!
@paleoph6168
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Ian make a video on this gun again 9 years later.
@mikaelkanerva1591
2 жыл бұрын
Saanko ensin heittää Jatimaticini lampeen?
@762rk95tp
2 жыл бұрын
Pikku vintiö.
@Taistelukalkkuna
2 жыл бұрын
No heitä,mutta sitten lähdet lusimaan.
@chrism4008
2 жыл бұрын
It might be a little goofy, but I think i like the design of this guy. Seems like it would be fun at the range because of its oddity
@dureteheiral1793
2 жыл бұрын
agreed, could have easily blended in into Star Wars universe... probably Han Solo or Imperial Officers sidearm... and oh, it is its oddity that really count
@Some.Canadian
2 жыл бұрын
it might sound weird but I get a headache just looking at it. Very unique but so awkward looking.
@Taistelukalkkuna
2 жыл бұрын
I participated in shooting event with all sort of guns brought by collectors, 20mm Lahti down. The representive of the company that bought the rights was there to demonstrate the gun. Jams, and he even managed to disassemble the gun while firing. Like Ian demonstrated in 6:10
@History_Coffee
2 жыл бұрын
"this is where the law stops and I start sucker" - Marion Cobretti
@colindegrow1475
2 жыл бұрын
"Crime is a disease, I'm the cure"
@juhotasken
2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing these in an old Finnish crime documentary, where they used this to rob postal offices. It's on english subtitles on Yle Areena: "K5, J5: Jatimatic-ryöstöt" Looked pretty grim, and it also was pretty flashy way to go in that's why they we're caught because this really raised the red flags on police.
@juhotasken
2 жыл бұрын
@Nunya Bis nah, the factory was actually robbed / bulgarized in the 90s so lots of jatimatics ended up to criminals also at that time deactivation laws were different so they reactivated deactivated jatimatics back to working ones.
@Veldtian1
Жыл бұрын
@@juhotasken resourceful Finns.
@Tallus_ap_Mordren
2 жыл бұрын
The silhouette is actually very similar to olympic .22 free pistols and air pistols. This is one of the guns where an actual arm brace would have made sense.
@robviousobviously5757
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the arrow on the red FIRE marking.. incase you get confused as to where the bullets come out..
@ceoofwhiteprivilege2238
2 жыл бұрын
You know when you see a gal who’s kinda ugly in a cute way - that’s this 👌🏻
@scottstewart5784
2 жыл бұрын
You'll spend time with her, but you'd not want your friends to see you together?
@twopoundertranslationteam6335
2 жыл бұрын
Chinese also copied the Jatimatic in about 1990s, and it's called Model 411. Jonathan at Royal Armouries has a video about that, but he didn't mention the model name. Also that one is the 9mm Parabellum export (presumably semi-auto) version. There's also a small number of Model 411 in various police stations in China, mostly in 7.62 Tokarev. All of those phased out of service in the early 2000s after some practical testings by the police forces.
@Omnihil777
2 жыл бұрын
A finnish military friend of my fathers, who had the pleasure to shoot the Jatimatic for a while - quite some years ago - said that he felt that it is an awesome point shooter, for intuitive targeting "from the hip", and he was fairely experienced in the SMG genre, you could say. He said, the magazines were outstanding, rugged & reliable. He too said, the trigger was awful, though.
@con_zur
2 жыл бұрын
Love the simplicity honestly. Everything from the takedown lever to the safety mechanism
@Kumimono
2 жыл бұрын
Most of the manufactured Jatimatics have in fact been thrown into a lake by the Tervasaari Summer Theatre troupe. :(
@BrorAppelsin
2 жыл бұрын
First full-auto firearm I ever fired, in 1985 at 14 years of age.
@aries_9130
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Jonathan Ferguson also made a video about this and its successors, a very interesting watch as well.
@themythofthefacelessman2180
2 жыл бұрын
This weapon is so much of a meme that me and my dad keep joking about it casually almost every day it’s just too funny
@mojungle3054
2 жыл бұрын
Your dad is cool as hell. My dad only makes jokes about my life
@Hysteria98
2 жыл бұрын
@@mojungle3054 And yet he made you- he must be the biggest joke of them all, lmao.
@duckkillerpjt
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool gun but I didn't realize until Ian's explanation at the end of the video how shortsighted it was to make a gun with no shoulder stock that is very unintuitive to shoot from the hip due to the abnormal angle of the barrel
@supersonicbros23
2 жыл бұрын
I always loved the Jatimatic for how boxy and compartmental it looks, its like the SPAS 12 of SMG's
@williewilliams6571
2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw what this video was about, I thought "Red Dawn!" Another good vid.
@AllAboutSurvival
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! You are fortunate to see this! From what I know, Jatimatic has an effective integrated gas reservoir that makes it special
@Narcan885
2 жыл бұрын
Gas reservoir?
@KinreeveNaku
2 жыл бұрын
Gas reservoir? Looks like a basic blowback to me
@peterresetz1960
2 жыл бұрын
It’s must be hidden in the pistol grip. Yeah. Right. Someone didn’t take their meds this morning.
@andrewbrice2116
2 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of this one for years and years,this the second video Ian's done on this,I just think this gun was ahead of its time..such a smart simple peice of kit.
@jubuttib
2 жыл бұрын
Aaah, finally Ian gets the Jatimatic in his hands again, and makes a higher quality video than the old one.
@Qwarzz
2 жыл бұрын
Should throw it in a lake.
@Mikhoou
2 жыл бұрын
It has also appeared frequently in a Finnish sketch comedy show called "Vintiöt"
@762rk95tp
2 жыл бұрын
suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan!.
@frankbrowning328
2 жыл бұрын
I love this thing. It's hard to imagine why nobody wanted it. It had to be very easy and inexpensive to produce. A folding stock could have easily been added. If the tilted barrel was a big issue that could have been made straight in line with the receiver.
@Narcan885
2 жыл бұрын
Very simple, very elegant and good looking gun. Very innovative too, kind of retro futuristic. The recoil control design seems simple but genial, Ian doesn't explain why it isn't a good idea or if it is. So i'm really wondering, did it work? The only drawback to it seems the ability to mount optics, but that was solved in the GG95. Really, the only weak points of the gun seem to be the weird, unintuitive charging handle and the lack of stock. Apart from those, it seems potentially a very nice gun.
@tdugong
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe change it to some kind of pump mechanism/angled foregrip? Because I don't think an opening that big into its innards can nor be good.
@gyneve
2 жыл бұрын
There's a sharp part of the gun that gets exposed when you pull out the charging handle, and it comes dangerously close to biting the back of his hand when he cocks it. It doesn't help that you have to use a lot of force.
@SNOUPS4
2 жыл бұрын
I really wished we could see Ian shooting that one in slow motion, the mechanism against muzzle climb is interesting! I think they could have added a bigger hand stop on this unfolded front grip because it doesn't look super safe for the fingers, if one doesn't pay attention one day...
@markpeterson1819
2 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch Ian trying to teach vector mathematics for dummies. Well done Ian.
@tomlevier3615
2 жыл бұрын
It looks so different without a giant D cell Flashlight sized laser mounted on top.. Only 400 were made? Wow. I had no idea the production numbers were so low...
@Fantasygod19999
Жыл бұрын
just watched cobra 15 mins ago had to check forgotten weapons for the deets
@ЗвездыБольшойПротуберанец
2 жыл бұрын
In the late 80s in my room on the wall there was a poster for the movie "Cobra" with Sylvester Stallone with this gun in his hand.) And it can also be seen in the movie "Red Dawn".
@jamesgilbert124
2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be fun on the range tomorrow.
@moemaster1966
2 жыл бұрын
And I thought the MAC-10 was simple …this thing has that beat
@jonnykarkkainen9965
2 жыл бұрын
Not every gun that comes out of my beautiful country is great. Jatimatic seems to be one of the not so great ones. Looks like SPECTRE had a baby with a Skropion
@gingergorilla695
2 жыл бұрын
The Spectre was sexier, ngl,
@lytho9542
2 жыл бұрын
For some reasons the charging handle/front grip reminds me of the PM 63.
@jonnykarkkainen9965
2 жыл бұрын
@@gingergorilla695 The Spectre is super sexy. Love those older obscure cold war SMGs
@stormiewutzke4190
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. We tend to think that everything should look a way but often our bodies do better with asymmetrical design. Something you may be interested in there is a channel called Scholagladitoria that is similar to your exept for older weapons. Asymmetrical design was far more common in older weapons.
@matthayward7889
2 жыл бұрын
I was obsessed with the jatimatic after I saw it in ‘world military weapons’ book
@bibblebob
2 жыл бұрын
Naming a firearm something close to ‘Jamomatic’ probably didn’t help sales
@ericmitchell985
2 жыл бұрын
I was kind of hoping the Jatimatic was unsuccessful because it was a jamomatic. Fascinating gun, tho!
@bifftannen324
2 жыл бұрын
I remember the Jati as being considered a very hi tech smg
@HALO-2304
2 жыл бұрын
I could see that sling point/dissassmbly catch potentially causing issues.
@klausbrinck2137
2 жыл бұрын
Very, very good, with just a couple of things to keep your mind on when using. Very easy to clean, field-strip, un-jam... I loved the muzzle-anti-climp- features
@saiberunato
2 жыл бұрын
I've seen versions of it online with folding stock. Perhaps that should have been standard from the beginning.
@MythicMagus
2 жыл бұрын
I am always amazed at guns with so few moving parts. I wonder if using a fire selector switch instead of a progressive trigger would have helped the gun sell better. As another comment said, a more traditional cocking lever probably would have helped too.
@anzaca1
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is the lack of a stock.
@RealCadde
2 жыл бұрын
I am certain you know this so it surprises me you didn't mention it. But the pistol grip is also not "in line" with the barrel. When shooting from the hip or rather shooting without aiming down the sights, a seasoned shooter will use the direction of his trigger hand to determine where the bullets will land. It's the same as drawing a revolver from the hip and quickly pulling the hammer and firing it. You basically aim by imaginary pointing with your hand/trigger finger. I bet shooting this just feels wrong, it would feel like you are trying to make the target tap dance rather than get hit.
@raimoliimatainen4176
2 жыл бұрын
"-Nyt kyllä lähdet lusimaan!" "-Odotas, heitän ensin JatiMaticini Huippuvuorten yli norjaan" Fiiiuuuuuuuuuu--plumpsis Golden memories from the nineties 😁
@benanddadmechanical6573
2 жыл бұрын
That actually seems to be a super simple design with very few parts/machining steps. But I can definitely see why the whole charging handle/cocking level/safety was a bit of a kludge.
@victuff9765
2 жыл бұрын
OK, OK, I hold my hands up and will tell you a tale.... Back around 1982 I had a Jatimatic and a SITE's Spectre.... I know, two odd bods that I took a shine to😉 They were both sales samples that SIDEM INTERNATIONAL had that I sweet talked them into selling to me! Cost me a grand total of £350 FOR THE PAIR😁 I converted both to semiautomatic only and had them for a year or so, lost interest and sold them on! Then I bought a Steyr Mpi69.... boy does Vic like those odd SMG's😂🤣😂🤣 Alas, ownership here in the UK is no longer possible for 'live' guns.... But I found a dealer in Europe recently that has a plethora of 1950-80's prototype SMG's that I will film soon😉👍
@failatlife1
2 жыл бұрын
the bolt traveling slightly downwards in order to somewhat counteract the tendency of the gun to climb is honestly super clever.
@jonathanbohm6489
2 жыл бұрын
“You’re a disease…and I’m the cure” Ian when purchasing his .22 Zip
@juhajarkkoulvila7041
2 жыл бұрын
One of the bad apples in finnish gun design. Sigh! Let's hope SAKO will make thise new military designated marksman rifles in 7.62NATO available to civilian market. AR-10 design I think!
@WarDogMadness
2 жыл бұрын
Its So cyberpunk it looks south african..
@leehorst
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't you do a video on this weapon in 2012? Say around September 17th 😃. Nice to see an updated episode on the Jatimatic!
@rifles_up2263
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the one in Red Dawn is the same one that’s in Cobra? If there are only 400 in existence then it’s a high probability
@davidseal8375
2 жыл бұрын
The guns in the movies were rented and returned to Finland....there was someone in the states that has some jatimatics but when the law was passed in 1986 ( Hughes amendment ) instead of registering them he destroyed them.....
@BadBomb555
2 жыл бұрын
Tampereen asepaja roughly translates to more like _"Tampere's Weaponsmithy"._
@chrissinclair8705
2 жыл бұрын
My friend owned a Remington 587 "Jam-amatic" but I've never fired a "Jatamatic".
@sodog44
2 жыл бұрын
So the only good things about Cobra was that gun, and the bad guy was a dope bad guy. Red Dawn is a classic, period.
@ianashby1449
2 жыл бұрын
Love cobra his colt 1911 with irvory / Perl cobra hand grips with the cobra image is a pretty awesome gun
@BrianRRenfro
2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how everyone talks about how it looks while we live in a world that the P90 and KRISS Vector exist.
@anzaca1
2 жыл бұрын
But with those guns, at least it's easy and intuitive to hip-fire them.
@stormthrush37
2 жыл бұрын
So the real question is...how does the Jatimatic do on the range? Is the Jatimatic a Jamamatic? I'll see myself out.
@jammyscouser2583
2 жыл бұрын
could call it a Rastagun
@johncox2865
2 жыл бұрын
A very impressive weapon. Especially the anti-muzzle rise provisions. Wish I had one,of these. Thanks, Ian. You’re the best.
@davealpern7089
2 жыл бұрын
The cover of Action Comics #640 features Wild Dog brandishing a Jatimatic that I now realize would not be able to fire (front handle is folded up).
@VorpalDerringer
2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm going to have to reread Wild Dogs mini series and see if they screwed it up there.
@nutbastard
2 жыл бұрын
Just make it head canon that he filed down the little nub that stops the bolt.
@WinterMadness
2 жыл бұрын
The only reason it's unsuccessful, is because most of them are at the bottom of a lake.
@XtreeM_FaiL
2 жыл бұрын
You can always find one in the top drawer.
@frankdantuono2594
2 жыл бұрын
Ian, please tell me you're going to have a range video of you firing that Jatimatic.
@malachimeeker9480
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only one who read the title as “Jam’o’matic”
@ryhold
2 жыл бұрын
This needs to be taken to the range 😎
@rcfokker1630
2 жыл бұрын
But, why was it unsuccessful?
@cynthiakoehne7004
2 жыл бұрын
AHHHH its the gun Sylvester Stallone used in COBRA 1995, can't forget the scene with Brigette Nielson driving the pickup while he spray's the enemy from the bed!
@Goofy_Boots
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I love how long I've been watching. I knew Ian already did a video on this gun and sure enough, it was 9 years ago.
@Hipas_Account
2 жыл бұрын
Oooh, i have been waiting for this. I remember the video you did on one years back, and hoping for a more thorough look of it, now all we need is shooting footage :D
@lbh002
2 жыл бұрын
What a cool design. I hope you get to shoot one and show/tell us how it handles on the range.
@Ghandi242
2 жыл бұрын
Have been waiting for this one since the first Finland trip!
@michailpanchev9952
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder, what if they curved the barrel to cope the muzzle climb, instead of "curving" the travel path of the slide?
@nutbastard
2 жыл бұрын
Curved barrels have been experimented with in the past. They're expensive to produce and tend to wear unevenly. There are also handling issues with having your projectile change directions while still in the gun.
@Afrohare
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Jatimatic! And I believe it is for the second time on Forgotten Weapons. Here in Finland it has a somewhat legendary reputation, courtesy of a sketch show from the 90's...
@troyjardine5850
2 жыл бұрын
This looks like the result if "submachine gun" was typed into an art AI
@wallaroo1295
2 жыл бұрын
In the original *"Red Dawn"* movie, this is the weapon carried by Colonel Strelnikov in the final shootout with Jed.
@finalascent
2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine pointed out that the actor playing the Russian officer was probably making "shooting sounds" when firing the blanks - you can see breath streaming from his mouth when he fires at Swayze.
@wallaroo1295
2 жыл бұрын
@@finalascent Yeah - why not? I mean, I would! Who *wouldn't* go, "Pew Pew Pew" today? LOL The breath also gives away that Matty isn't actually "dead" because, otherwise Charlie Sheen would have had to hold his breath the whole time. So... I always speculated that after COL Bella let's them pass... They do what they were taught to do... "Stay Alive" and they made it back to the Mountains, and watch over Partisan Rock. Living in the wilderness they fought in. Mountain Men with boatloads of PTSD.
@2ftg
2 жыл бұрын
Now this one I want to see on the range. Especially in one handed full auto.
@OccamsToyota2
2 жыл бұрын
Stallone carried one in Cobra (1986) "You're the disease, and I'm the cure."
@onpsxmember
2 жыл бұрын
Will there be some range footage? It'd be interesting to see how much the downward facing component helps.
@ForgottenWeapons
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, tomorrow
@Kane856
2 жыл бұрын
Love to see that on the range 😀
@juhotasken
2 жыл бұрын
Shooting video??
@FelixstoweFoamForge
2 жыл бұрын
That's actually a very clever idea. I like it. Using biomechanics to mitigate climb.
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