I was in Malta in 2009 and got myself lost after I got off a bus (near Dingli Cliffs) and assumed I'd catch the bus from the bus stop opposite where I got off back. BUT by 2009, the buses only made one circuit, they didn't return the opposite way and I stood and watched the bus go by not realizing this was the only bus home. I had no map, no smartfones then, so walked via the cliffs to another town where I was told I could get a bus on a different circuit going back to Sliema. It was getting dark (my trip was in December) and it was down to helpful locals who were going to Sliema and realized I was in need of assistance. I must consider myself lucky to have got back safe.
@robbiestephenson8497
3 ай бұрын
I was in Malta late 90's was drunk and decided to walk from st Julians bay too silema, I wasn't aware at the time until a local stopped in her car and insisted I go with her , because I was been followed by three men, people of Malta are very nice people
@Under_your_nose
3 ай бұрын
@@anotherblonde did you get bummed too? 🤔😋
@anotherblonde
3 ай бұрын
@@Under_your_nose Not on that occasion
@Under_your_nose
3 ай бұрын
@@anotherblonde shame we didn't glance at each other...may be next time lol ♥️
@SusanBradley-w7x
3 ай бұрын
As a mother of one, I hope you find your son.God bless you Jay's mum, may your wish of finding him alive and well will come true.❤
@irenedavo3768
3 ай бұрын
Is his Passport in hotel?
@RebekahMarnie
3 ай бұрын
@@irenedavo3768Jay’s mum Debbie has his passport, she has stated this publicly that she has it.
@mackan-kf4tg
3 ай бұрын
He’s been gone 12 (TWELVE!!!!!) days!!!!! He’s dead!!🤷🏻♂️
@lulabelle4527
3 ай бұрын
@@mackan-kf4tg people have been lost longer than that before and still survived. I agree its unlikely, but not impossible. Theres nothing wrong with keeping the faith at this point. 12 days isnt twelve years, or even twelve weeks.
@technohow6494
3 ай бұрын
It's a scam, Mum, Dad, and Jay in on it
@KiwikimNZ
3 ай бұрын
Yes I have two sons, 21 and 22, they are careful, but no one is immune to making a mistake in circumstances that leads to a perfect storm and tragically people die. It doesn’t matter what age your children are they are still your most treasured possession and I can not bare to even think what this mother and father are going through right now. Poor kid. His first big adventure on his own, very very sad. I just hope they can get some closure and find his body.
@shanicrystal8671
3 ай бұрын
💯💯💕
@randomhumanoidblob4506
3 ай бұрын
We all look back at our youth and everyone has that moment, the one that skated past... I cannot even find words for what his mother must be going through - her "I can't bear it, I can't" is going to ring in the heads of many parents across the summer. I just hope the universe doesn't feel the need to dump more on this family because jesus, enough. Not knowing is unbearable.
@janinabuczynska9939
3 ай бұрын
Poor kid, you have to be joking, you obviously know nothing of his background. They are a very dodgy family and so are his so-called friends.And you know about the GoFundMe which is paying for a whole entourage of family and friends to sit by the pool all day. This creator Michelle is known for taking things at superficial level and not knowing the bigger picture.
@MargaretLaFleur-j5j
3 ай бұрын
Michelle, I am so obsessed with this case. Thank you for the comprehensive coverage. I have a favor to ask. I’m dying of colon cancer. They tell me I have a few months. When I was 15, there were a series of murders in my little city that rocked the state of Massachusetts and the country as a whole. It was 1979 when the body of Doreen Levesque’s body was found underneath the bleachers at Diman Regional Vocational Technical High School in Fall River, Massachusetts. This murder ushered in what came to be known as the “Satanic Panic.” The two murders that followed caused a panic the likes we had never seen before. There is a novel, Mortal Remains by Henry Scammell and a series on Epix called Fall River which chronicles the cases. One of the key players, Robin Murphy, was just released on parole. She’s admitted that she lied. She told the police what they wanted to hear. An innocent man may have just spent the last 40 plus years in prison because of her lies. Would you please cover this case. I’d love to see your insights and observations. Thank you.
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear you're struggling with cancer, I hope you are as comfortable as you can be. I don't know the case you refer to, but I'll definitely put it on my list of cases to look into
@MargaretLaFleur-j5j
3 ай бұрын
@@MichelleAfterDark Thank you so much. I’m very comfortable. Your channel is amazing. Take care.
@PaulineXCX
3 ай бұрын
Big shout out to Paul Arnott out there selflessly helping in the search, he deserves a medal , just seen a post Guardia are now asking for any persons with mountaineering/ search and rescue experience to come over and help them
@touriel8943
3 ай бұрын
I got refused accommodation by the only hotel South of the Tiede Park as they were full, but also refused entrance to the bar or water tap. I had to sleep in a sleeping bag and it dropped below freezing. The next day I had to walk toward Los Christianos in temps above 100 f. I kept to the main road but tourists had dumped rubbish in the wells. I eventually got a lift, but was hospitalised for sun stroke and dehydration.
@Elfrida-ls2mo
3 ай бұрын
If True ? You went on Holiday with No Money yet had Money for an Hotel yet no Money to Pay for a Bottle of Water Does this Island have No Shops even when Brits have been going to this Islands since the late 70s 80s in Massive Numbers However if True Name Shame and Sue the bar who refused you Water if you can and Tell everyone so this Evil Island and it's Evil people go broke
@ericambler486
3 ай бұрын
@@Dinadino994 Don't be ridiculous, you're getting caught up in hype ... I was there for three weeks in March, did loads of different stuff, and had a lovely time.
@LadyDiamondIsHereNow
3 ай бұрын
@@Dinadino994 more likely locals who are cautious around the party visitors and likely fed up with all the social problems the party people bring to these islands. On the one hand, money to be made from the party tourism and on the other, the loutish behaviours, etc.. No elderly woman in her right mind is going to pick up a young man, who is likely wasted, let alone the language barrier, etc. It wouldn't happen in England, so why expect it to happen in Tenerife?
@touriel8943
3 ай бұрын
@@Dinadino994 Now I have a son who's leaving his secure job and flat to drive around Europe with his girlfriend in a converted minibus looking for work ...now I know how my mum felt!
@janinabuczynska9939
3 ай бұрын
@@LadyDiamondIsHereNowWell said.
@claireday8593
3 ай бұрын
I have a daughter the same age as Jay and she is out in Malaga. I can’t sleep I am constantly worrying and she is checking in with me every few hrs to help with my anxiety if her being away at the moment. I can’t imagine what his parents are going through I am struggling to sleep can’t get it out of my head worrying my daughter could come to some harm. It drives me crazy people are so wrapped up in what his past looks like that is irrelevant he is missing and needs to be found I really feel for his parents ❤
@lizxox9460
3 ай бұрын
❤ stay strong
@marilynbirk6041
3 ай бұрын
8:39
@janinabuczynska9939
3 ай бұрын
She is fine in Malaga, l live nearby, it's not Tenerife.
@therealakkherself1296
3 ай бұрын
If she dosen’t know any “Lucy” she Will be ok! Lucy is the key to this case!
@kevinbegley5881
3 ай бұрын
Totally agree, it's more than likely it's been a case of mis-direction, either getting town names confused, or walking in the direction he thought the bus would go and taking a short cut, but forgetting traffic travelled on the other side of the road so was actually going the wrong direction. Poor lad.
@janinabuczynska9939
3 ай бұрын
Rubbish, you obviously know nothing about his background as Michelle doesn't either, she only ever looks at a case very superficially and from the angle of search dogs. He's been kidnapped by people he owed money to.
@rubycandy92
3 ай бұрын
Jay could of gone towards the tow path to the sea and fallen so he could be in that area or somewhere round there. He could of gone into a cave out of view, he could of fell over into the sea,, it was stated he walked in the opposit direction walking up hill. I think 2 weeks on he may never been found and it's very sad, young man had his whole life ahead of him,,
@Emy53
3 ай бұрын
How unfortunate and ironic for Riley...he was walking amongst many people, and he still managed to end up in the water, and Jay Slater is in a very secluded place and might have the same outcome. Riley wasn't any safer on a crowed street, with CCTV cameras, any more than Jay was. Both met the same fate, under different set of circumstances.
@DABmonger
3 ай бұрын
The media have been putting a dot (as a marker) in the middle of the park, and people may have been taking that as the location of the last ping. He appears to have gone missing near to Mirador La Cruz de Hilda, from where the search is starting tomorrow. As for sending your location using a messaging app, I would think that that would be generated using GPS, with perhaps the help of cellular data. It would've been so much better if Jay had used a messaging or map app to send his precise location, and just stayed at that spot! David Larkin has been staying in one of those little buildings in the ravine near Mirador La Cruz de Hilda, and he was picked up by the police on the basis that he was in difficulty. I wonder, though, if they wanted to take a look at him, and rule him out as a suspect? Pure speculation on my part, of course.
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
You mean a lot of people in the "true crime" cult have smooth brains and can't think logically or critically? Whodathunkit?
@siouxcatwoman6752
3 ай бұрын
Hey! Just seen on the Mirror web that Jay's friend, Brad said he heard Jay slipping on rocks when he had his last phone conversation! Why the heck has he came forward now, instead of telling someone straight away, is beyond me!
@rosita3528
3 ай бұрын
Yeah I just read that. Does make you wonder where Brad and Jay's call fits into the time line of Jay and Lucy's call
@siouxcatwoman6752
3 ай бұрын
@@rosita3528 Yeah, exactly! I also find it odd that Lucy had her face turned away from the camera on the news interview, when her face is all over social media! What's she hiding? 🤔
@rosita3528
3 ай бұрын
@@siouxcatwoman6752 Yeah good point also. Plus, going by Brad's interview, he said thar Jay said someone was calling him so he would call Brad back. Lucy said Jay called her, so who called Jay after he spoke to Brad I wonder
@randomhumanoidblob4506
3 ай бұрын
We don't know what they're embargoed from saying or for how long. He may have told the police but been under a gag order, just as the men who are supposed to have been in the house are silent. I do wonder if a lot of the reticence is actually not reticence but different country, different rules? Please don't all come for me, it's just a thought! Awful for his family though. To not know....I know some people think his mother was acting, but "I can't bear it...." was. ...eh. Poor, poor lady.
@user-qh8nh7oe6d
3 ай бұрын
Sioux, his phone battery was down to the last 1% too. Would be impossible to do a videocall, and yes, why wait 9 days, instead of showing it as evidence from the start. It just makes it more suspicious.
@lizzysimner7715
3 ай бұрын
Praying for Jay’s family the pain is unbearable 🙏🙏🙏
@nilabrandner433
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for attention to this young man. Prayers for his family 🙏🙏
@DanStar87
3 ай бұрын
Some of the degrading stuff around his disappearance is so disgusting! I can't even get my head around the Toxicity from people online, it's stupid and unnecessary, he's still a young kid, can't even imagine what his family are going through, instead of people helping this kid they rather sit there on their asses, elbow deep in a Family bag of Doritos been all keyboard warriors! It's sad to see such toxicity, especially the comments from adults who are parents! This is what is wrong with society! I hope he's found one way or the other!
@philippamcqueen5430
3 ай бұрын
Yes...your right..and social media shows up these really horrible humans...my son is 21 and us mums/dad's..really do worry..when they are out all all night..(i was like it myself)my son knows to txt me if he's crashing at a mates after the pub..even of its 3 /4 am..as I loose sleep else..and start worrying...poor Jay's mum &dad havn't been sleeping...its heart breaking.
@DanStar87
3 ай бұрын
It's just so sad to see such toxicity especially from parents! All because he and 7 others was involved in a horrible attack on a kid, I'm not condoning his part but they was another 7 others, yet he's been targeted for it now, it's kinda ironic that when the crime happened and the victim was attacked it didn't make a blip on the radar so the ones been vocal now are showing there nothing more than keyboard warriors and will happily trash and persecute someone who may not even be alive... I believe he takes some narcotics which people use as justification to his disappearance yet teens/young adults take narcotics worldwide it's the reality of growing up. I feel so bad for his family imagine losing your child in a foreign country have absolutely no idea we're he is or what's happened to him all while your been scrutinized and trashed by online trolls it's absolutely disgusting its completely outrageous! It's sickened me to see just how nasty people can be and give absolutely no second thought to how there actions are effecting the innocence family who's done absolutely nothing wrong to be labeled social pariahs and the worst of the worst.@@philippamcqueen5430
@philippamcqueen5430
3 ай бұрын
@@DanStar87 yep..and they all all like the nasty kids in the school playground..they are just showing themselves up.
@carolmurray5048
3 ай бұрын
I think it’s just that simple Michelle spot on
@nobody-nz3vv
3 ай бұрын
A man calles ryan cooney went missing for month in same mountains on tenerife. He was returned hed been robbed and kidnapped but alive last year
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Yes I saw that in the news
@Heinz57ish
3 ай бұрын
Yet if you dare to mention such things, you're a conspiracy theorist!
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
He wasn't "kidnapped" He was mugged and then went missing. He was found FOUR DAYS later, not a month later. There is no other information I can find out there about where he went, or where he was found, but there is also no claim that he was ever "kidnapped" or held by anyone against his will. The most plausible scenario is that he was mugged, suffered a concussion, and simply wondered off.
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
@@Heinz57ish No, you're a conspiracy theorist when you lie about the circumstances of a case in order to invent nonsensical notions about this one. Mr. Cooney was mugged, he then went missing. He was found FOUR DAYS later not a "month". He was not found in the same mountains, either. There is NO evidence that he was ever "kidnapped", there is no evidence that he was "returned" by anyone. Inventing nonsense about other cases to justify your insanity about this one is horrid, stop it.
@Blissfulnessence
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Michelle. i do pay attention to this case, just at a loss for ideas on what may've happened.
@howareyou857
3 ай бұрын
Most likely the obvious...misadventure
@Bushwacker-mb6hw
3 ай бұрын
It’s obvious what’s happened
@Nancy-wo2fn
3 ай бұрын
@@howareyou857yes he's simply taken went thru mountains in q place he'd never even been before. I'm disgusted at those men not running jay back to where they picked him up from absolutely appalled.
@Nancy-wo2fn
3 ай бұрын
@@duncansmith7562the mountains there I'm sure someone said are 22,000 feet drop in some parts which is dangerous 😢 I don't believe he was kidnapped either .
@Nancy-wo2fn
3 ай бұрын
If water around he could have fallen into that quite easily or he's went the opposite way to where he was supposed to walk back whatever the outcome he needs to be found heart goes out to his family 😢.
@pamelacox7715
3 ай бұрын
I think it’s a good possible theory. I do wish for a miracle for his mother/family, but at least I hope they find him soon in any case.
@andrew-bu7bx
3 ай бұрын
His phone pinged in masca at around 8.15, when he left the Airbnb... then when he phone lucy to say he's lost, half hour later at 8.50, he's almost a 3 hour walk away? But that 3 hour walk is 30 minutes by car? He's in hiding somewhere!! Common sense tells you that you don't walk up a fucking mountain, that your trying to get off!!
@Ilkleyscot
3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@sineadhalliwell
3 ай бұрын
Been saying this 👏
@sineadhalliwell
3 ай бұрын
Whys no-one saying about the fact he couldn't have walked up there. If someone gave him a lift, they would have said by now.
@Ilkleyscot
3 ай бұрын
@@sineadhalliwell good point but no other sightings ?
@sineadhalliwell
3 ай бұрын
@duncansmith7562 from the B&b when he left the two strangers, Johnny vagas black male so strange!! he asked the lady what time the bus was and then apparently walked up the mountin. That's the point of intrest here because it's not possible to get as far up as he did if the location ping us accurate. By foot had to be by car! That's the question. I'm not dropping it either because no one is getting answers. There's missing parts to how he got up there.
@JennWatson
3 ай бұрын
Good morning Michelle, pups and everyone from Nc usa ❤
@sonjastanger5858
3 ай бұрын
Good morning @JennWatson 🌄🖐🏽❤️
@ZenobiaDecrespin
3 ай бұрын
Good morning Michelle, Tilly,Noodle,Cassie I hope you have a lovely weekend.❤❤❤❤ I hope Jay is found but as the days go by it seems less likely.
@SaltyMomas
3 ай бұрын
Im new from lurking on crime channels 🙄insanity!!! Your Amazing ! great reporting ✌🏼🙏🏼🥰🥰 Blessings
@wanya1980
3 ай бұрын
The screenshot from Lucy’s phone - from when Jay shared the location - is actually in between the ‘Barranco Juan Lopez’ trail and the TF-436 … so he appears to veer of the road down towards the Barranco Juan Lopez trail via the ‘green area on maps’ - not the road
@jessicapigg
3 ай бұрын
One fairly obvious reason that he might have gone in the wrong direction was he was on his first holiday abroad and may not have factored that the direction of traffic is different to the UK and so the bus stops going in a certain direction are on the opposite side of the road.
@blissiimo2064
3 ай бұрын
DONT RELY ON IPHONE TECHNOLOLGY. Teach kids to also have maps, read directions & common sense precautions. Coming from Australia, where people go missing in teh bush all the time, it's rarely an experienced bushman that gets caught out - its those going for a 10 min walk.
@randomhumanoidblob4506
3 ай бұрын
I worked with Ozzie hard fellas. Pretty sure they were invincible. But sadly I totally agree. And if you have an urban kid, teach them to stick to urban landmarks - if there's a bus stop, STAY THERE. We underestimate how our "normal" affects us, we assume everywhere is roughly the same. Especially when we're young, even if we know in theory, we don't internalise. Every landmark this kid had was urban, how is he going to understand other, especially when compromised. To leave his family unknowing is the ultimate cruelty, it's just...ooooof.
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
I think this is the reality. He was inexperienced, underestimated his surroundings and overestimated his abilities. It seems to me he made a bad decision to go with people he met without considering how he would get back. That's easy to do when you've spent several days partying at a festival and want it to continue. He presumably didn't take his phone charger with him. He didn't take his passport or other belongings with him. He didn't take water with him when he left the property he had visited. It's just a series of mistakes culminating in a very unfortunate outcome.
@SteveJones-gz4vd
3 ай бұрын
Very interesting thanks for posting this
@ShakerMaker1980
3 ай бұрын
I think he started to walk thinking he’d still catch the bus but may as well start walking, he headed off in the wrong direction. He walked north & then realised his mistake & thought he better hurry back to get to the bus at the original bus stop & took a short cut - then he went off the road and unfortunately it ended badly.
@ShakerMaker1980
3 ай бұрын
@@duncansmith7562 I’m just speculating but it would explain why he was seen on the road going north and then he vanished. Maybe panicked thinking he had to get back to the bus stop and went off road. Dehydrated, on a come down, hungover, exhausted. I think he’s on that mountain & not far from the road but would love to be wrong!
@TracySackman
3 ай бұрын
@ShakerMaker1980 maybe he just wanted a witness,? To say he was seen and intentionally walked off in the opposite direction.... I think he's no longer in the country, he could have left the island by sea????
@sallywalton5375
3 ай бұрын
I hope hes ok, i really do !!
@hellonobody3321
3 ай бұрын
Is everyone ignoring the fact that he’s related to the woman who drugged and hid her child under a bed for ages and pretended she’d gone missing to get money.. he could be doing something similar
@ambergibson1930
3 ай бұрын
Seems he's related to alot of odd happenings!!
@Nancy-wo2fn
3 ай бұрын
Yes karen Matthews i read yesterday.
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Untrue
@tonilharmon
3 ай бұрын
Hogwash. It's an untrue rumor. 🙄
@kevingardiner1619
3 ай бұрын
If the alleged sighting of Jay was with him watching the Euros on a large screen or tv, then why would'nt have got his mobile charged up to call folk to let them know he's ok? I think the sighting watching the footy is a false lead myself.
@philippamcqueen5430
3 ай бұрын
Yes the mayor should have said it .that was unprofessional.
@sumdumguy8917
3 ай бұрын
Everyones become a private investigator 🤣
@richardsoper777
3 ай бұрын
Amy comments Michelle on the comments from Spanish police regarding the timing of Lucy reporting Jay missing. Seems she did not report him missing until 2pm in the afternoon.
@ToOldToTurnProcycling
3 ай бұрын
It's all speculation, and when the only person to of allegedly spoke to him then starts a gofundme. Only the person that passed him while she was driving, I'm guessing she didn't trust him for some reason.
@angelaevington2598
3 ай бұрын
I think if when walking he saw a switchback road he would try to cut across to save more walking!
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Yes, maybe
@randomhumanoidblob4506
3 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I think. Then realise you can't climb....lose direction (he's an urban kid and the road is almost invisible at some angles. He had no reference markers) and....so sad. I don't think people realise the barrenness of the terrain. And bodies move, especially in a steep hill. I actually do hope he took shelter in a crevace, sat down and gone. At least it would be quick. But makes him harder to find. Just the ultimate nightmare for his poor family.
@Sarah-ft8jr
3 ай бұрын
Yes if nothing untoward happened to him, I think you’re right. It seems like the most logical explanation. He probably thought the public transport would be better in that closer town. Maybe he only had a split second look at the map before it conked out and at a glance it looked close. It’s only 4 miles as the crow flies. But obviously with the mountains it’s much longer. So from a teenagers immortal perspective I can imagine a young lad deciding to cut through them to get there quicker would be a good idea.
@showmoke
3 ай бұрын
I have a theory which I don't think has been talked about yet and that is that it may be possible that he found his way to a road and maybe thumbed a lift as a hitchhiker as he would have realised how far away from his residency he was. A vehicle may have stopped to pick him up and maybe he was threatened by the occupants who may have had bad intentions towards Jay. After getting into the vehicle, Jay may have been threatened with knives or a gun perhaps and then abducted to some other part of the island where goodness knows what they did to him. He may of course either have been thrown or fallen into the sea from a cliff face. Perhaps they should also be looking around the shoreline of the island as well.
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for you. Life must be hell thinking everyone is a criminal and every encounter is a threat. Go outside and touch grass. Talk to people. Turn off social media for a while and get a grip on reality.
@showmoke
3 ай бұрын
@@ct5625 - sounds like you're incredibly naive. I suggest you do the same. I do have a life outside social media thanks, but I'm not sure about you, otherwise why are you on here reading these comments?
@Cycle.every.day.
3 ай бұрын
MWT is a PR Man nowadays , pushing a narrative and gaslighting is his game now.
@oliverheaney3379
3 ай бұрын
How do guys like Thomas get away with it? He is interfering with a police investigation getting involved and intimidating witnesses..
@Mike75575
3 ай бұрын
Yes . Witness intimidation is a crime.
@randomhumanoidblob4506
3 ай бұрын
Also, what right has he to impose British rules? For all we know these people are under some type of restriction under Spanish law. Rather like we (the media) absolutely refused to accept the meaning of the official suspect status in Portugal. These places are not Britain and no, we can not do it better. Immensely frustrating and the absolute last thing his poor family need. The only use we may possibly - possibly, I have no idea - is S&R. And even the logistics of that may be a net loss, we simply do not need yet another beak sticking in a useless opinion and oh god I'm ranting again, aren't I? Soz. Dismal situation for his family. And every parent who has a kid going roaming this summer. Just sad.
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
@@Mike75575 There is no criminal case, so "witness intimidation" is probably not an aspect of this. These are all just private citizens involved in a case of a missing person, there is no evidence of any criminality taking place. He could probably be cautioned for harassment, though.
@Mike75575
3 ай бұрын
@@ct5625 Yes i agree, there is no crime here.
@TipsyHustle4
3 ай бұрын
Jay was on video call or Snapchat to his friend saying look where I am, basically wow look at this it’s 1 hour car but 11 hour walk he definitely knew how far he was away
@barrymichaels2663
3 ай бұрын
It's a holiday for everyone courtesy of gofundme.
@LorrieGreen-l6j
3 ай бұрын
Totally agree I think this case is a hoax if this tic toucher finds him I swear it's pre planned
@LittleBearPaws
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Michelle
@LadyDiamondIsHereNow
3 ай бұрын
I think the Guardia Civil will find him within about a two hours walk of his last location. Jay had been partying for several days by that point. He wasn't compos mentis due to whatever substances and alcohol. He ended up staying a few hours with these two men and then left of his own accord. He wasn't seen running out of there,he wasn't asking for help, he wasn't showing signs of distress. He wanted to get the bus back to his accommodation. It looks like he got confused as to which way - unfamiliar town names that look the same, maybe getting which side of the road is going which way mixed up, etc. The local woman not picking him up is understandable. Unfortunately, Tenerife, etc., are 'party islands'. The locals have seen a lot over the last 3 decades of British youth, etc., coming over, getting wrecked and all sorts of madness going down. Plus, the main areas are crawling with people selling all kinds of drugs and all the problems that come with the gangs that operate that stuff. No elderly woman is going to pick up a young man who looks a bit wasted, even during the daytime, who is walking in the wrong direction. He was on a main road at that point and likely looked like he knew where he was going, even if in the wrong direction. I feel very sorry for his mum who looks like she's in deep shock, whose eyes look swollen from repeated crying and also for his dad and brother, who are also struggling with what's happened, etc
@matthew2008able
3 ай бұрын
As in the Nicola Buckley case RIP sounds the most obvious explanation so far cheers👍
@frankgallagher7812
3 ай бұрын
Bulley
@katelyngamer1237
3 ай бұрын
Marks 3 days r up
@abbott7704
3 ай бұрын
Ha yeah what a pratt he’s always sticking his nose in isn’t he? I’ll bet the Spanish police are loving it now he’s there
@robinlaing9560
3 ай бұрын
Pray
@ScottPerkins-7060
3 ай бұрын
Hey Michelle I switched jobs so I’m still watching just at different times.
@gjthomas9770
3 ай бұрын
The thing that is horrific is the way he would have died . 😔 Truly awful 😖
@txjewishdogmom
3 ай бұрын
Dog woke me up early. Good morning!
@Charlie3vans
3 ай бұрын
He was a fit healthy young man, highly likely he travelled further an faster than ppl think. Even the woman who saw him said he was moving at a good pace.
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s often the case. People get out of a search area and then it takes an awful long time to find them
@proudamerican8038
3 ай бұрын
Why would he go off with 2 strangers? (s#x, dr*gs) How did he get to the area he is lost in? ( car, bus) Why not wait for the bus? Why, if you're on a road, would you walk off into the mountains? This story smells to high heaven.
@teresapaskell5459
3 ай бұрын
I wonder when they will bring in the cadaver dogs😢
@stub3242
3 ай бұрын
They already have if you look at the Guardian Civil information.
@stub3242
3 ай бұрын
(Guardia) spell check!!!
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
3 ай бұрын
Apparently there's a photo sent to Lucy Law of his last location, and I haven't seen that photo yet. So where is this photo?
@mereteaasland6663
3 ай бұрын
why should you see that photo? Are you a detective on the case?
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
3 ай бұрын
@@mereteaasland6663 Yes we should see the photo, this isn't a criminal case, this is a 'find someone' case.
@syryder3236
3 ай бұрын
@@mereteaasland6663 what a stupid comment to a simple and justifiable question
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
I'm guessing the cops won't want that photo released. Even though it's a missing persons case they would be irresponsible not to protect the integrity of their investigation at this stage
@xxxstanstillxxx
3 ай бұрын
@@mereteaasland6663 the photo has been seen in other videos. And don’t be crass, 6663, what a pathetic question. 💩
@JamesO-s7p
3 ай бұрын
Michelle look at the junction to Los carrales it's signposted he probably thought there was a town there. If you look at the time it takes 1hr 18 to reach the end of that road from Airbnb it puts him there when he called Lucy. Hopefully he got to the canoe place. Emailed journalists I know there's a massive search Saturday.
@zamiadams4343
3 ай бұрын
What if he's the victim of a serial killer?
@jadegblueparrot8606
3 ай бұрын
a few young men have dissapeard on the island i saw 5 over the years that have in a news article yesterday. serial killer did cross my mind. but i just think he is dead on the mountain/land somewhere unfortunatly.
@anmyarchive
3 ай бұрын
victim of serial stupidity
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
The odds of it are unlikely but it is possible he could have become the victim of some kind of predator after the cafe lady passed him
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
What if he was abducted by Big Foot!?
@randomhumanoidblob4506
3 ай бұрын
Aliens. It's always aliens. (I feel bad even joking but it's not mean-spirited. I think a lot of us are doing that British dark humour thing)
@TheLondonForever00
3 ай бұрын
Videos like this are not helping anyone, you practically said nothing of any worth and mumbled on from the 4th minute. Give it a rest.
@Ilkleyscot
3 ай бұрын
I definitely agree
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
Opinions are like arseholes. And you are one. If you want conspiracy theory bs there are dozens of other channels to waste your time on, sweetie.
@Nancy-wo2fn
3 ай бұрын
I think simply jay has went into the mountains n got lost ,I don't think he was kidnapped or anything at all like that . Main thing is he needs to be found to give his family some closure. He should have walked on the road especially in a foreign country he didn't know. He shouldn't have gone anywhere with those two British men n he wouldn't have been missing in the first place if U go on holiday with friends stay with Ur friends not away with randoms you don't even know. That put jay in danger straight away n fact those men drove him to the mountains then left him to walk back to christiano.nasty men them putting a wee boy of 19 in that position in the first place . 😢 I really feel jays on the mountain somewhere. N those Threat things said to jays mum on Snapchat was just nasty people being evil . If jays alive it'll be a miracle .
@neilprendergast6799
3 ай бұрын
Fucking hell, Joey Pasq has joined the search
@tundedzsupin6084
3 ай бұрын
buses stop on a different side compared to England and if u're not careful you might think the side u're standing goes in the British direction
@paulnovak3864
3 ай бұрын
its ironic you keep showing rivers as there are none in tenerife - not a single one - no streams or running water
@Nathan1989
3 ай бұрын
No he thought he was in England and there r the other side of the road different directions to England
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Yep there's that too
@stephencurran2568
3 ай бұрын
Why didnt the woman who seen him not get out and shout him for a lift .did he drop the phone on purpose or has he lost it by mistake just dosnt make sense or has he planted it there .have they checked ocean surley his body would of surfaced by now .very strange .
@deadandburied7626
3 ай бұрын
If you are a lone woman, its not wise to give anyone a lift you don't know, especially males. 😮
@coopercat9035
3 ай бұрын
I know his phone pinged in that one place but what if he realised he was going to wrong way and made his way back the other way and got a lift the opposite direction
@DABmonger
3 ай бұрын
There's the question, of course, of why Jay decided to head uphill from the bus stop. Perhaps Ofelia pointed to the stop on the same side of the road as the Airbnb/restaurant, and he was thinking in terms of the side of the road that vehicles drive on in the UK.
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, maybe, it makes sense
@pingupenguin2474
3 ай бұрын
Yes, but he wouldn't need to go far to realise there wasn't one, and normal urban person reaction would be to return to a known bus stop, if intending to wait for a bus. Regardless of which direction it is going, a bus would have a driver to keep him right.
@DABmonger
3 ай бұрын
@@pingupenguin2474What do you mean, sorry? There's bus stops along the road, but he may have decided to walk part of the journey instead of waiting at the Airbnb. Maybe the two guys were going to try and catch some sleep before their scheduled flight on the Monday (although they ended up flying on Tues). Still, we don't know why he left the road, other than to take a short cut.
@honeyelder
3 ай бұрын
Hoping for the best outcome possible 🕊🤍
@bucks963
3 ай бұрын
Mark only needs 3 days 😂
@Zo-woww
3 ай бұрын
Michelle if a x cop has gone over to help you praise them dont say oh hes no good he quitt being a cop over a decade ago thats a bit snotty of you at least hes helping
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
He's not helping. Not at all. Maybe 24 years out of the force and a new career in media has led him into interfering with investigations to the detriment of any future case.
@ladyanjy
3 ай бұрын
@@MichelleAfterDark i agree,he is taking cameras everywhere,maybe wants to do a netflix or write a book,all for personal gain in my opinion.didnt like how he demanded the 2 men to come forward from the hotel when they already gave a police statement and copies of their passports.otherwise he was going to put their names and photos in the papers.wrong!!
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
He's not helping, he's clout chasing, like "Dog the Bounty Hunter" in the Petito case.
@Zo-woww
3 ай бұрын
Oh michelle give it s bloody rest will ya your doing these videos for clout arnt u n isnt that a bit of a contrediction then? He is helping your adding to the speculation so u get veiws on ur stupid videos about a boy with an overlay of your dog on the river wyre were niki bully was killed whos clout chaseing ere??
@Zo-woww
3 ай бұрын
@@MichelleAfterDark its wat they do !!!... t bloody help ???? Wat r u even on about
@user-mi7gc3xw9r
3 ай бұрын
Jay has passed away , im a empath but i also get vistions hence i can tell you this, i feel so bad for his parents, i also the injury to his leg and it was not good , i hope they find him soon so the family will get some relief
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
You get "vistions"? Could any of them be from an English teacher? Better yet, a psychotherapist.
@user-mi7gc3xw9r
3 ай бұрын
@@ct5625 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 your soooo funny 😁
@annettesams8781
3 ай бұрын
Hi Michelle ❤
@hedgehogwildlifejunction9119
3 ай бұрын
the CCTV camera is not from the area, the Mayor has restated that the CCTV is not from that area.
@lizxox9460
3 ай бұрын
Is that the mayor who's related to the woman from the air b n b ?
@hedgehogwildlifejunction9119
3 ай бұрын
I think he went further up and in a ravine sadly. disorientated, dehydrated, could have been hallucination from lack of water. Sadly no mystery just a young man who has got confused and lost. bless him. x most search dogs will find either dead or alive.
@TheJellyBabyxxxx
3 ай бұрын
Beach cam Tenerife verbal footage? Anyone can find it via a web search.
@janiceleighton7348
3 ай бұрын
Think it was personal sadly what did he do to make it personal out there
@dawnmayes8217
3 ай бұрын
It would be helpful to know why the 2 guys he went north with didn't give him a ride back in the morning. Perhaps they were asleep or not present in the apartment at that time..idk There's a whole lot we don't know about.
@lissamae8719
3 ай бұрын
How under the influence of drink and/or drugs was he? This guy is not a saint gang member, convicted of a machete attack apparently with 30,000 drug debts yet 36,000 raised on a go fund me set up within 10 hours withdrawn by his mother to take 18 members of his family to Tenerife where they're in bars watching football. This whole thing stinks. I think they'd be better of looking for him in the UK.
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
@@-yi9mu So you think a case making national headlines in a country of 60 million people couldn't manage to raise 36K? Maths is hard, right?
@martinleonard1992
3 ай бұрын
Went to playa san juan today to the spice shop, wallked out on pier to see if my friend Freddie van der linden was there. He was not. Saw a lad that could easily be mistaken for Jay. White top. Could buy new kit
@peacefulpath222
3 ай бұрын
Is it possible he walked in that direction in hope of finding a taxi perhaps, rather than waiting for a bus?
@sp-pz8uc
3 ай бұрын
Just ask the dogs!!!!!!
@krystaljohnson5908
3 ай бұрын
Not that I know anything about anything, but didn't they teach us when we were little that for survival if you open up a cactus there's water in it ? I wonder if that's something they still teach in school or not
@anmyarchive
3 ай бұрын
still hoping
@LorrieGreen-l6j
3 ай бұрын
I think this case is a hoax
@j.c.tratnik7827
3 ай бұрын
Good morning Michelle
@andysimmo100
3 ай бұрын
Not looking hopeful but I'm a pessimist so let us hope this has a happy ending ❤
@davidb4800
3 ай бұрын
I believe he never even left the road I think he got a lift in a car 🚗 but then maybe he was being followed
@SusanPhillips-pn2em
3 ай бұрын
Why didn’t she tell him that he going wrong way !!
@aliharris5369
3 ай бұрын
Just seen the interview with Isla Iq on ITV she was talking to his friend Bradley- that interview is a bit suspect- that pic of supposed Jay with a cigarette at 7.30am at Masca AirB&B also looks suspect. No confirmation tat Jay was at either of these spots. The GGMe -his mother has withdrawn £15K to pay for "friends from the U.K.' to come & help- lets hope they wont want to be rescued!
@boobooj6739
3 ай бұрын
15K???
@LorrieGreen-l6j
3 ай бұрын
Isla is a lier
@Shadow29220
3 ай бұрын
Have you seen the video of what happened on the beach this makes Lucy 100% guilty and hopefully police give attention to it . And the boat was just online for a few minutes but now off again seems strange missing since jay was and then just appeared online a little bit
@Rocket_Queen_Australia
3 ай бұрын
Since you've announced she's 100% guilty, can you tell us if she's been arrested? 🤔
@dogdefender6946
3 ай бұрын
where are they posting? what hashtags
@Rocket_Queen_Australia
3 ай бұрын
@Rainbowexpressbruce arrested for dealing or Jays disappearance?
@mereteaasland6663
3 ай бұрын
@Rainbowexpressbruce link to source?
@gavindavies2861
3 ай бұрын
What happened on the beach???
@ericambler486
3 ай бұрын
... but Jay knew Los Cristianos is on the coast, whereas that other place isn't.
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Yes but he would be able to see the sea once he got to the top of the ravine
@lisashelton5468
3 ай бұрын
Great video, Michelle!!! That makes a lot of sense. Also, the comment that you made about Riley strain I never thought about that great job.
@paulnovak3864
3 ай бұрын
you always here of lost tourists (mostly germans ) each year - some they dont find until someone falls over them years later - its a massive area as its so high 3000m and my NA car puffs if i go to fast due to lack of air being sucked into the engine
@sonjastanger5858
3 ай бұрын
Heya Michelle ❤
@thunderhorze2003
3 ай бұрын
Replay crew ❤
@adrianpollard2763
3 ай бұрын
Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. Did you conspiracy theorists learn nothing from the Nicola Bulley case when every single KZitemr was proved wrong? If you're that concerned, why are you not over there searching with the rest of the mugs from Social media trying to impress people? And why show video footage of your dog on a walk? Could that be old footage from the Bulley case? It's completely laughable, amateur, and pathetic.
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
You don’t know my channel. Go and check out my Nicola Bulley videos as clearly you have just assumed…
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
While I understand your anger about the insanity people are spreading, Michelle is not one of them. Unlike all the lunatics out there (and in these comments), Michelle generally sticks to the known information and bases her opinions on that, she doesn't dive off the deep end proclaiming to know anything and doesn't repeat all the insane garbage from Facebook and TikTok.
@Loonytunes-88
3 ай бұрын
What about the message that Jay,s mother got about never seeing her son again because he owed money??
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Every case has evil trolls
@deborah972
3 ай бұрын
Poor jay 😢
@jc-246
3 ай бұрын
Did he even have his mobile phone? What if someone else had it and Jay had another phone.
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Nah, no evidence of that
@gloriathompson4010
3 ай бұрын
Have doubt about that woman at the bus stop? Did she led him in the wrong way to meet his demise? Funny how she met up with him 15min later and did nothing. Can't see why she should bump into him 15 min after the 1st contact. Where was she going or coming from?
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
She owns the cafe. She had absolutely no reason to lead Jay to his demise. That's just crazy talk
@ct5625
3 ай бұрын
@@MichelleAfterDark But Michelle, these people need DRAMA and HORROR, they can't deal with the notion that some things are just as they appear to be, mundane and tragic.
@ambergibson1930
3 ай бұрын
How long will the search team continue to work until they call it a day and say no more effort?? The mother should think that with the GoFundMe money. Perhaps she should hire a pi herself or st least save some of this money till its truly needed!¡
@pixie706
3 ай бұрын
How long between speaking to the woman and making the phone call. He was already off the road in that short time if he cut his leg.
@Mike75575
3 ай бұрын
Barranco Juan Lopez trail imho.
@MichelleAfterDark
3 ай бұрын
Possible
@Mike75575
3 ай бұрын
Lucys snapchat photo is within a few yards of that trail.. Some seasoned hikers have had extreme dufficulty in that valley . Thirst and loosing their way. Ps I like your theory here too.
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