I'm targeting posting Firefly episodes every Monday and Wednesday from now until the end, so stay tuned! Full length reactions for the series are already available on Patreon. I'm also currently watching THE EXPANSE on Patreon, and ALIEN will be coming to KZitem soon. Thank you! ❤
@sean---the-other-one
29 күн бұрын
Yay. Would've loved for this to have been posted closer to your actual watching of the episodes so we could have all conversed a bit more meaningfully (spoiler free), but still glad you posted the series so thanks for that.
@questionablehumor2800
29 күн бұрын
i guess i can still wait patiently for the ewetube release of this mythical Alien video. Ffffff'ine!
@b1ckdrgn
29 күн бұрын
I really hope you're going to watch Serenity after the series is done so you get the full story
@johnymey4034
29 күн бұрын
I tried to watch this on your patreon, but you didn't have it edited the same way and I wasn't really gonna take an hour to watch the full episode after trying to get it set up to run side-by-side with you video's commentary... just not the same as this. So I left you patreon and got a charge-back, but I would have stayed and paid if you had this same thing over there.
@StevenHaze
29 күн бұрын
half way through, is it as good or better than your thoughts before starting? Also Thank you I love your insight, you see connections I missed but also see the profound depth of this unfortunately short lived franchise.
@Lineman72T
29 күн бұрын
Jayne is very much a prime example of "he's an asshole, but he's our asshole."
@jeffthompson9622
29 күн бұрын
Almost word for word what Dennis Quaid said about DJT.
@GoodOldGamer
29 күн бұрын
So cut him the hell down! 😏
@ktvindicare
29 күн бұрын
I imagine during the War Stories episode Jacqui will warm up to why Jayne is an important member of the crew.
@boqndimitrov8693
29 күн бұрын
👍
@illumstern8831
29 күн бұрын
@@ktvindicare My thoughts exactly, but she'll have to be paying close attention to catch it since it kinda slips under the radar.
@broodhunter21
29 күн бұрын
"He's putting the hair away now." "It doesn't matter. It will still be there....Waiting."
@adinal1958
29 күн бұрын
That's one of my favorite lines from the show!
@vorlon1
29 күн бұрын
Me too.😃
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
29 күн бұрын
@@adinal1958🤣🤣
@steveaustin2686
29 күн бұрын
The B story of Shepard, River, and the hair is hilarious. Especially Zoe with, "Hell, yes, Preacher. If I didn't have stuff to get done, I'd be in there with her." And then Book's hurt look. LoL
@dawnfallon6812
29 күн бұрын
"Bible's broken" is my next favorite. This is a hidden River gem episode.
@owenfromkc3468
29 күн бұрын
Don't forget in the pilot when Kaylee was shot, Jayne was really worried for her but didn't let anyone see him. He was crouched outside the OR in a hidden area watching.
@dougearnest7590
29 күн бұрын
@@HandleTakenlol - I think he thought of her as a little sister, but Mal had already assumed the big brother role to Kaylee, which left another void in Jayne's life. So he acted out more, and each time he did Kaylee saw him as more of an ass - making him less of a big brother figure.
@ryanakers1372
29 күн бұрын
Jayne was also REALLY excited about torturing the guy that shot Kaylee. Granted, torturing someone for info isn't out of character for Jayne, but I do think he was disappointed when he couldn't get some revenge when Mal shot down the torturing
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
29 күн бұрын
@@dougearnest7590I’ve always thought about what would’ve happened if the show had got to run for 4/5 seasons. I think Simon might’ve become a badass, (ala Wesley Wyndham Price on Buffy/Angel). I sometimes think that Jayne & River might have ended up becoming an item (Jayne’s dislike for her has all the hallmarks of a Whedon ‘switcheroo’), though I could see Jayne & Kaylee coming together, perhaps in the 3rd or 4th season.
@dougearnest7590
29 күн бұрын
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 - Well, there's a reason I love the Ariel episode - but no spoilers. As for the rest - Jayne and River? That's a most disturbing thought - one that could be the silver lining behind the cancellation of the series. Jayne and Kaylee? Almost as disturbing. Had the show not be cancelled prematurely, it might have been interesting for a new character to be introduced - a love interest for Jayne - and I picture her being very much like Saffron was pretending to be. Someone sweet and incredibly naïve in need of Jayne's protection, and who would domesticate him somewhat in the process. Or maybe that's too cliché - I just thought of it and haven't given it time to ferment.
@aardwolfweb
29 күн бұрын
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192The unfilmed episode 15 shows how far Simon is willing to protect River. He gets darker.
@artisticstefan
29 күн бұрын
I had a very funny encounter at a comic-con in Portland, Or, back in 2013. Jewel Staite was attending she signing autographs and doing fotos with fans. Well, being that Kaylee is my favorite on Firefly, if I had to choose. There was no doubt I had to get a photo with her. After waiting quite a while for my turn, they finally ushered me into the Photo Booth. Jewel Staite was there standing at her mark, I said hello shook her hand by and introduced myself by my first name “Stefan”. She reciprocated while the attendant moved me to my mark for the photo. I mentioned how I loved her portrayal of Kaylee and how much I enjoyed the show. While all this was transpiring the photographer was writing down the pertinent info for the photo, my full name and such. But when he asked for my full name, I gave it, there was a sudden silence and slight shock because my last name is “Jayne”. Spelled exactly as Jayne Cobb. Jewel stepped slightly off her mark to face me more directly and asked “Seriously, your name is Jayne?” I said “yes” and everyone expressed how fun that was. But just as they got ready to take the photograph, the cameraman decided to go into a rendition of “The man they call Jayne”. Everyone in the booth proceeded to sing a few bars. I have a slightly odd smile in the photo because he snapped the picture just as I started to loose it from all the singing everyone was doing. . It was a very nice encounter with Jewel Staite. One I will never forget.
@ZachsMind
27 күн бұрын
Okay your one long-winded contribution to this thread beats EVERYTHING I just typed and edited and abridged and typed again. You got to stand next to THE Jewel Staite and everyone sang The Jayne Song to you. You win! =)
@sebastianwittmeier1274
22 күн бұрын
In the rhythm of Inara: "You actually are ... Jayne?"
@EpimethiusPSN
29 күн бұрын
Opening night of Serenity, the Firefly movie that comes after the series, in many theaters people sang, "The Hero of Canton" while waiting for the movie to start.
@HoundMonkey
29 күн бұрын
It's a fantastic folk melody about the greatest of heroes, Jane!
@KenS1267
29 күн бұрын
There were about 100 Browncoats at the Chicago screening and we sang Hero of Canton and the Firefly theme song.
@R.J.Godzilla81
29 күн бұрын
That is awesome
@CarpeUniversum
29 күн бұрын
Humans are kinda awesome.
@donnafitzgerald1820
29 күн бұрын
I was at the Seattle premiere!! Adam Baldwin came to that one. 😁
@kingleech16
29 күн бұрын
The line “There ain’t people like that… there’s just people like me…” is one of my favorites from all of television. Adam Baldwin sold it perfectly.
@tjthill
29 күн бұрын
You say this when standing right there is the man who's soon going to say "Well, I must say, Lady, you're my kind of stupid."
@BH6242KCh
29 күн бұрын
We did learn more about Jayne. He's not afraid to kill, he's not afraid to die, but Jayne can't bear someone laying down his life for him.
@Mr.Ekshin
28 күн бұрын
Jayne learned that he can't prevent those people from idolizing him... all he can do is try to live up to the pedestal they've placed him on.
@LordVolkov
28 күн бұрын
It's not that he can't bear it. He doesn't understand why someone would give their life for someone else. He doesn't understand self sacrifice or caring about others more than himself.
@seanwilliams7655
28 күн бұрын
@@LordVolkov I think he can understand it, but can't understand why someone would do it for HIM specifically.
@kennethcrist443
28 күн бұрын
@@LordVolkov I disagree. Jayne has a very selective idea of what he considers "family". Family you will sacrifice for, outsiders you do not. Jayne doesn't consider most people family and his journey on the show is to begin to accept the people on Serenity as part of his family. Kaylee he already has done so. Simon and River are definitely not part of his family. The citizens of "Jaynestown" also are not part of his family. Why would they sacrifice for him if he wouldn't for them? Another thing this episode revealed is Jayne's lack of understanding of what it means to have people think of you as a leader. He is uncomfortable with people looking up to him and respecting him. One of the things that would have happened if the show had continued was Jayne would get his own ship and crew, He would have found himself in a leadership position like Mal, and have to deal with a crew, some of whom may treat him as he treats Mal. How does he deal with that? I would have been very interested in that part of Jayne's story. One thing about Jayne, though, is while he may not consider the crew of Serenity as family, he also takes his job on the ship very seriously. He protects the people on the ship from outside threats without any complaints in the moment. He is very professional at doing his job, which is the aspect of Mal that Jayne represents. Jayne is one of the best depictions of being a mercenary in fiction, but he also has his code.
@lasersailor184
28 күн бұрын
Jayne doesn't think that he's worthy of the sacrifice. "Everyone is the hero of their own story." But not Jayne to himself.
@Kavala76
29 күн бұрын
Want some backstory on Jayne? Pay close attention at the start of Ep #12 "The Message"; listen to Jayne reading a letter...
@TDoughter23
29 күн бұрын
Such a telling letter that I so easy to miss.
@jordanpeterson5140
28 күн бұрын
@@TDoughter23ooh, enclosed.
@claudiadarling9441
28 күн бұрын
@@TDoughter23 Jayne's a great illustration of how to right a character that is both an asshole, with understandable motivations, but without making excuses for their bad behavoir.
@singingwolf3929
19 күн бұрын
Also, his actions in 13 when he isn't the main focus of what's happening
@cirrustate8674
29 күн бұрын
One of my favorite things about this episode is seeing Inara flustered and stumbling over her words when she finds out Fess is talking about Jayne instead of Mal. We've NEVER seen Inara be flustered like this before. She's always composed and collected, so to see her thrown like that is a sight to behold.
@CowCommando
29 күн бұрын
She gets a little flustered after she kisses Mal in "Our Mrs. Reynolds," but not to the same level.
@kenle2
28 күн бұрын
@@CowCommando Well, there's "flustered ... And there's drugged.
@embracediscomfort6154
29 күн бұрын
“We gotta go to the crappy town where I’m a hero.” - Wash
@kimmypfeiffer9130
29 күн бұрын
there's a dive bar in my hometown we called 'crappy's' so i can take you to the crappy bar where i'm a hero lol
@wild_lee_coyote
29 күн бұрын
Jayne, the man they call Jayne He robbed from the rich And he gave to the poor Stood up to the man And he gave him what for Our love for him now Ain't hard to explain The hero of Canton The man they call Jayne Our Jayne saw the mudders' backs breakin' He saw the mudders' lament He saw that magistrate takin' Every dollar and leavin' five cents So he said "you can't do that to my people" You can't crush them under your heel" So Jayne strapped on his hat And in five seconds flat Stole everythin' Boss Higgins had to steal He robbed from the rich And he gave to the poor Stood up to the man And he gave him what for Our love for him now Ain't hard to explain The hero of Canton The man they call Jayne Now here's what separates heroes From common folk like you and I The man they call Jayne He turned around his plane And let that money hit sky He dropped it onto our houses He dropped it into our yards The man they called Jayne He stole away our pain And headed out for the stars He robbed from the rich And he gave to the poor Stood up to the man And he gave him what for Our love for him now Ain't hard to explain The hero of Canton The man they call Jayne
@xzonia1
29 күн бұрын
❤
@kathrynck
29 күн бұрын
❤
@deeesher
29 күн бұрын
One of my cosplays is Captain Mal, and I'm kinda proud of everything I put together to make it work. I convinced my friend to cosplay as Jayne, and from the first time we walked through a convention together, all I hear is people LOUDLY shouting "Jaaayne!!", or singing "The Hero of Canton" song 🤦 I've literally gotten to the point where I have to yell back, "I'm here too, ya know!!", and then I get a pity "Oh hey Captain..." Ugh. I met Adam Baldwin at convention and told him this story. He said when Joss told him about the song, he said "You'll only want to hear it once" 😂
@dougearnest7590
29 күн бұрын
Inara is more than a "hooker with a heart of gold" - she is a Companion. Her skillful handling of the Magistrate wasn't wasn't because "she's good" - it's because that's the sort of thing she has been trained to do since childhood. Things like that are quite "easy-peasy" for her.
@cirrustate8674
29 күн бұрын
She IS good, because she's had that training.
@Diomedene
29 күн бұрын
So many people get hung up on the sex aspect of Companions that they don't realize that it is only a part of the job and usually not even the main part.
@kenle2
28 күн бұрын
@@Diomedene Uhh ... "Other than THAT, Mrs. Lincoln... How did you like the play?"
@Diomedene
28 күн бұрын
@@kenle2 Thank you for helping prove my point.
@kenle2
24 күн бұрын
@@Diomedene Pretending sex isn't the primary point isn't being "open-minded". It's swimming in that river in Egypt.
@BH6242KCh
29 күн бұрын
The Kaylee-Simon story mirrors real life. We don't have Hollywood writers crafting the perfect lines in the real world. We say stuff we want to take back, we think of something better to say long after we had the chance, we go blank at the wrong moments. That's real life. It doesn't always have a happy ending. You dust yourself off and get back at it. Realism versus idealism. Firefly is the world as it is, Star Trek is the world as we wish it to be.
@TheRealRedAce
29 күн бұрын
Thats just what I wanted to say, but I couldn't think of it at the time.....
@kathrynck
29 күн бұрын
Star Trek is no Firefly. Sure I've watched a lot of star trek, but I never bought the dvd set of any trek.
@kenle2
28 күн бұрын
@@kathrynck To be fair ... Star Trek has a dozen official shows and is in common reruns (even on free broadcast television) pretty much all day long, somewhere. Why would you need dvd's?
@SoloRenegade
29 күн бұрын
i love how throughout the series, Mal has 1-on-1 talks with each member of the crew.
@DaveAlkema
29 күн бұрын
Fun fact, there's a bit of a religion switch-up in this show. The actor who played Book was actually a Buddhist, the actress who plays Inara is actually Christian. In the show he's a Christian and she's a Buddhist.
@jacobtampa2817
29 күн бұрын
I hate to be that guy, but if you could refer to them as space, Buddhist, and space Christian that would be accurate
@adamwells9352
29 күн бұрын
@@jacobtampa2817Damn space right.
@ErebosGR
29 күн бұрын
That's interesting and kinda explains why Book is so zen, while Inara is so moralistic. 😅
@patrickpercefull8278
29 күн бұрын
@@jacobtampa2817 Space... or Void...?
@this.is.a.username
29 күн бұрын
@@jacobtampa2817 no, it wouldn't.
@andrewjuby6339
29 күн бұрын
I love the Jayne/Stitch fight. There's no fancy choreography, just two dudes brawling for a second until one dies. Which is pretty much exactly how that thing would play out in reality.
@leesweets4110
29 күн бұрын
Pretty much; there is great detail to realism in this show. Like no sound in space, and psychics that intuit the world, and china making it out into space on their own.
@kathrynck
29 күн бұрын
I got kind of a 'wrath' off Jayne in that scene. He didn't understand someone jumping in front of him to save him, but he knew the one who took the shot had to go, like right now & brutal. Kind of a righteous vengeance bubbling up, even if it made no sense to him, he felt it. More subtle, but a little bit of a "they stole my car and un-lifed my dog" vibe. I can't think of any other scene where he charged an armed man while unarmed himself, and did him in with his bare hands. They toned it down for network tv, but it's there.
@Shoomer1988
28 күн бұрын
@@leesweets4110 Apart from the fact that a man living in a box for 4 years wouldn't even be able to walk, never mind fight somebody.
@leesweets4110
28 күн бұрын
@@Shoomer1988 To be fair though, he did lose pretty easily.
@mintyfresh3533
28 күн бұрын
I love that when people get stabbed in this show it doesn't just turn them off like a light switch. They still have that adrenaline pumping, they keep fighting.
@sherrysink3177
29 күн бұрын
"JAYYYYYYYNE! The man they call Jayyyyyyyyne!" This episode is a riot... with a surprisingly thought-provoking ending.
@irrelevant_noob
28 күн бұрын
12:35 "you guys had a riot... on account of [Jayne]?!" 👍
@CarlGorn
28 күн бұрын
Fun Fact: As a service to their fans, Jewel Staite and Sean Maher (Kaylee & Simon) appeared in an episode of Castle where they played a husband & wife couple running a diner. It was a sweet moment in TV.
@hjermsted22
28 күн бұрын
I think this was in Warehouse 13
@Smileybeeblevrox
29 күн бұрын
The most underrated and misunderstood character. There is a good reason he is so money hungry, revealed in a later episode. In this episode he is actually appreciated, and made to feel good about himself for the first time. The crew never appreciates him or compliments him. He didn't want to use his fame against the mudder's because he was finally made to feel that it's ok to think he could be a better person.
@Educated2Extinction
29 күн бұрын
How about the scene where Jayne was given the rain stick?
@mwhyte1979
29 күн бұрын
Simon: You're like a trained ape, without the training. One of my favorite lines .
@professorbugbear
28 күн бұрын
Jayne and Mal's talk at the end of the episode is one of my favorite moments of writing in all of television. "it's not about you Jayne, it's about what they need."
@zubaba
29 күн бұрын
The slow version of "The Man they called Jayne" over the end credits is amazing.
@KT-iy9vc
29 күн бұрын
I appreciate how Jayne's character is written. He seems to truly believe everyone has to look out for themselves. Certainly he has heard the concepts of trust, friendship, selflessness, etc.. he just doesnt believe society really works that way. He doesnt seem bitter about it, he isnt out to settle scores. He just thinks it is every man for himself. Most fictional characters who think that way are either very obviously bitter about past trauma, or very obviously the villain, or both. Jayne is almost Homer Simpsonish...VERY unlikeable actions and selfishness, but impossible to really hate because on the rare occasions that he does truly understand what's morally right and the reason for it, he chooses to try to be right. He just doesnt really seem to get the concept very well.
@jasperzanovich2504
29 күн бұрын
He is also very loyal to his own people. He believes that if he doesn't take care of his people no one will. He did say in the pilot that the price he was offered wasn't high enough but Jayne isn't someone who betrays his friends, he just acts that way. Probably because he things that if people liked him they might take a bullet for him.
@kensummers7757
29 күн бұрын
If you can’t do something smart, do something right
@seanwilliams7655
28 күн бұрын
@@jasperzanovich2504 spoilers... Even later when he does commit an act of betrayal, it's to protect his friends.
@kenashimame
28 күн бұрын
"...on the rare occasions that he does truly understand what's morally right and the reason for it, he chooses to try to be right. He just doesnt really seem to get the concept very well." He has a line in The Big Damn Movie that sums this up.
@jasont2986
29 күн бұрын
Jayne is the most enigmatic and deep character on the show, whether or not he is likable. While appearing simple, he is actually complex. He is my favorite character on the show.
@thexalon
29 күн бұрын
In one commentary track, Joss says this is all Adam Baldwin's fault: You weren't supposed to like Jayne, at all.
@rudewalrus5636
29 күн бұрын
@@thexalon Adam Baldwin did a brilliant job with the character, IMHO.
@adp806
29 күн бұрын
@@thexalon The initial intention was for him to be unlikable, the internal "bad guy". But, Adam Baldwin was just too likable to the cast and crew. And that, apparently, how he became more of the lovable rogue than problematic thron in their side.
@MrJpilcher
26 күн бұрын
I really like Jane he is an ass but he is a likable ass. no homo
@DudeLongcouch
29 күн бұрын
23:08 I've always appreciated how the outro music is a slow, introspective remix of "The Hero of Canton."
@TDM4895
29 күн бұрын
I feel compelled to stand up for Simon in this episode; translating from scared teenager caught in a compromising position with his sweetie by her very protective (surrogate) father what he said was something along the lines of "This isn't what it looks like; I wouldn't do that with any girl here, especially not Kaylee. I would not dishonor her in such a manner."
@lazykbys
29 күн бұрын
It was Simon's bad luck that Kaylee was completely oblivious to that kind of sexual morality and took his "especially not Kaylee" comment in the literal sense. I love the way their two completely opposite cultures kept getting bounced off of each other.
@Sindraug25
29 күн бұрын
"I feel so hoodwinked." "Hoodwinked" sounds like a good Firefly episode name.
@bigdream_dreambig
29 күн бұрын
Cousin to "bushwhacked."
@bodan1196
28 күн бұрын
There is an animated movie called Hoodwinked. It's kinda funny. Can recommend.
@therealpbristow
28 күн бұрын
@@bigdream_dreambig... Then complete the trilogy with "Gobsmacked". =:o}
@johnmcclure40
12 күн бұрын
Sure. That was the first episode of season 2.
@evatesche
28 күн бұрын
"Bible is broken. Contradictions, false logistics. Doesn't make sense." "You don't fix faith. It fixes you" "I tore this out of your symbol and it turned into paper" So many great lines and quotes just in the side storyline alone.
@actaeon299
29 күн бұрын
It's an imperfect world. And Serenity isn't exactly getting the cream of the crop for crew. It is different Sci-Fi than say.. Star Trek. The machinery is worn, and so are the people. The Captain must know his crew, and how to use them. Jayne is an imperfect character, as they all are. But within the boundaries of his character, he is "good". He works for his pay. He may not be "nice", but if you're loading equipment, or in a fight, Jayne will give value for his pay. Just don't expect him to not steal from the church. And while he may be "rough around the edges", the death of that young man DID affect him.
@SirSpuddington
29 күн бұрын
Subverting the expectations of Chekov's rickety plank bridge is one of the things that makes this episode such fun to watch haha!
@robertanderson6929
29 күн бұрын
This episode could have easily been called "Symbolism." Ben Edlund, the writer, layered a variety of symbols throughout the story. The Bible a symbol of the Shepard's faith. But to River it is just a book filled with contradictions. The statue a symbol of the Mudder's hope. But to the crew it is just a mud rendition of Jayne to be mocked. The son's chastity a symbol of his immaturity. But to Inara it's just how every man starts out. His son losing his virginity is a symbol of manhood to the father. But it is the example of Jayne standing up to Higgins and Inara's confidence building which actually results in the son stepping up and out of his father's shadow. Simon's propriety is a symbol of his love and respect for Kaylee but as Kaylee says, "It doesn't mean anything out here in the Black." It really is good writing for a science fiction TV show about space cowboys.
@ObeyWannTK6960
28 күн бұрын
love the analysis!
@sebastianwittmeier1274
22 күн бұрын
Jayne by his own free will publicly stepping out of his hero symbol down to his normal, slightly bad personality was also very powerful. After originally embracing it, profiting from it and believing it himself a small bit, he was shamed and perhaps also saw that the hero in him would admit the painful truth.
@robertanderson6929
22 күн бұрын
@@sebastianwittmeier1274 Precisely. And Mal's message to Jayne as he struggles to make sense of what happened summed up the purpose of symbols quite well. "It's not about you, Jayne. It's about what THEY need."
@margretrosenberg420
29 күн бұрын
Inara ISN'T a "hooker"; she's a Registered Companion. She had to successfully complete several years of specialized training, and Companion candidates have been expelled for failing in Ethics classes (Our Mrs. Reynolds is an example of that). She's also required to get yearly medical examinations, and could still be kicked out of the guild (that may not be what they call it; it's just the best word I have) if she doesn't live up to their high standards. Registered Companions are highly respected professionals.
@thexalon
29 күн бұрын
My uncle actually knows the guy who performed "Hero of Canton". A great singer-songwriter type. It fits in beautifully with the classic Robin Hood trope. And I want to go to the crappy town where I'm a hero.
@adamwells9352
29 күн бұрын
Maybe they juggle geese there.
@kimmypfeiffer9130
29 күн бұрын
there's a dive bar in my hometown we called 'crappy's' so i can take you to the crappy bar where i'm a hero lol
@UTU49
29 күн бұрын
I don't think there's a crappy town or bar where I'm a hero, but there are 2 square feet in my friend's living room.
@null_depreciated
23 күн бұрын
Do you know if there's a full version of the song in the show somewhere? I'd love to listen to it.
@LightningRaven42
29 күн бұрын
"The end of Firefly" blues, at least that's how I call it, often hits right around episode 9. It's when it sinks in that the show is almost over and there isn't much more than a few episodes and the movie Serenity. It's always sad. Don't know if other people feel the same.
@landofedo-kai6202
29 күн бұрын
Episode 12 for me. The original DVD box set had 4 disks, 3-4 episodes per. The last disk was watched much less than the first three.
@eschiedler
29 күн бұрын
You know you're a true Browncoat whrn you find yourself singing the entire song with a strong finish, "The man they call Jaaaaaaaa-yne!!!"
@BigDamnHero74
29 күн бұрын
Or 🎶The man they call MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!🎶
@pharrigan-hikes
29 күн бұрын
My favorite Jayne scene is at the end of "Ariel". All these characters are written and acted soo well. I pick up subtle things every time i re-watch
@UTU49
29 күн бұрын
I would not dream of suggesting that you will ever love Jayne... or even like him, but here's what I WILL do. I think I can guarantee that by the end of the series, you will find Jayne more interesting than you did at the beginning.
@Bekka_Noyb
29 күн бұрын
My dad lived in Canton when he was teen. So me & my cousin sung a slightly edited rendition of The Hero of Canton on a road trip for him 😃
@thomasbeauchamp3781
29 күн бұрын
When I was involved in roller derby, one of our home teams was the Steamer Janes. When they won in a bout, I composed an entire Steamer Janes version of the Hero of Canton!
@GoodOldGamer
29 күн бұрын
Our love for him now, ain't hard to applaud! The hero of Canton, the man we call Pa! 🤭
@brianwisecarver4880
29 күн бұрын
Canton, NC has a paper mill and smells horrible. Every time i visit, i have to say "Man, canton STINKS"
@daerdevvyl4314
28 күн бұрын
I like how Jayne’s response to the hero worship changes as the episode goes on. At first he’s extremely uncomfortable with it. He knows he doesn’t deserve it, and he’s scared of being found out as a fraud. After a while he begins to relax and enjoy it, and he’s genuinely touched by their devotion to him. Then when the boy sacrifices himself to save Jayne, he feels guilt and anguish. Guilt is an emotion that he’s unfamiliar with, and so he doesn’t quite recognize what it is that bothers him. “I don’t know why it eats at me so!” “It don’t make no ruttin’ sense!” Jayne doesn’t want anybody to know it, but he has a conscience.
@Wyrnikh
29 күн бұрын
Not having anyone fall in the muddy water was literally Joss' way of subverting expectations! Almost everything about this episode was.
@BKPrice
29 күн бұрын
So Jayne is actually my favorite character in the show, outside of Saffron, not because I like him as a person or agree with him, but because I see his character as complex, even though it often seems simple. I can't say too much about it because there are more episodes that will have aspects of his character revealed, but this shows at least a couple of parts of the nuance. The first, imo, comes when Stitch drags Simon into the crowd and says he got one of Jayne's guys and Jayne says, "He ain't-a one o' mine." Shows him deliberately trying to de-escalate a dangerous situation that Simon is in, even though he commonly expresses dislike for the doctor. And then there's the end, where Jayne becomes self-contemplative for the first time in the show. It shows an ability to look inside himself and analyze situations on more than a surface level. Combine that with some ambiguity about where his loyalties lie that has been established in past episodes and the very vulnerable way he was crouched in a cubby chewing on his thumb while he watched Kaylee get operated on after being shot in the first episode, and you have a nice complex character, possibly the one with more nuance than any other, although lacking a lot of likeability.
@landofedo-kai6202
29 күн бұрын
Back when we still had the yearly charity screenings of Serenity here, a full audience rendition of "Hero of Canton" was always part of the evening.
@kimmypfeiffer9130
29 күн бұрын
i was lucky enough to go to one once
@privatename5788
29 күн бұрын
Zoe's reaction to the hair was my favorite moment. "Preacher! What the hell did you say t--whooooooah!"
@VengerDFW
28 күн бұрын
It was comic perfection, I was hoodwinked out of it in this reaction video though...
@PierceThirlen2
29 күн бұрын
If you haven't figured it out yet, Jayne is actually the comic relief for the show, with lines such as "He was bigger when I couldn't see'em." "I call her Vera" After a while you are waiting for the new Jayneism in every new episode. Then when you are rewatching the episode you are waiting for Jayne to say the line again.
@hypermonstar
29 күн бұрын
Best description I've heard of Jayne is "believes he's the protagonist".
@dougearnest7590
29 күн бұрын
Don't we all? I know I am.
@dancampbell2344
29 күн бұрын
Of all the reactions to this show that I've seen, I have THOROUGHLY enjoyed yours the most. I watched this when it 1st aired, and your reactions have almost perfectly mirrored mine. I love every one! Thank you.
@xzonia1
29 күн бұрын
She's delightful! Her obsession with the muddy waters had me cracking up. X)
@robertbunting3117
29 күн бұрын
I love this episode because, well because it's Firefly and they're all awesome, but at the same time I hate this episode because I always get the Jane song stuck in my head for days.🤣
@BigDamnHero74
29 күн бұрын
🎶 The Hero Of Canton…🎶
@ernesthakey3396
29 күн бұрын
Not only did Simon insert foot in mouth, he chewed vigorously!
@kmac169
29 күн бұрын
In a way Jayne is like Cordelia and Anya were in Buffy. He's the stream of consciousness character, the person in the show who says exactly what they are thinking almost all the time. Usually used for moments of shock and/or humor for various situations.
@ZachsMind
27 күн бұрын
Very astute. When examining all the works Joss Whedon has had a hand in, there are commonalities to the character choices and plot progressions. Jayne is akin to Cordelia. Also Laurence Dominic on Dollhouse. There's always a "Jayne" of sorts in all of Joss' works. Like the best directors and writers and producers, Joss has his own je ne sais quoi.
@noahrobin1941
29 күн бұрын
Bit of trivia I didn’t clock for _years_: The primary antagonist in this story is a man named Higgins…who hires someone to “make a proper man” out of his son. If That doesn’t ring the a bell for you (I’d assume it does given your career path, but just in case there’s someone reading this who doesn’t get it): I commend to your/their attention My Fair Lady (by way of Pygmalion) for the source of the homage.
@jeoveracker
29 күн бұрын
I think it is better to think of Inara as a Space Geisha, instead of the HWAHG.
@ZachsMind
27 күн бұрын
Oh Inara is definitely both. Space Geisha AND COMPANION With A Heart of Gold. =)
@sean_mccadden
29 күн бұрын
You probably already finished the season, but when you go back and watch it again, know that Jayne's story is very subtle. Theres things about him I completely overlooked until recently because of watching reactions of this show
@margretrosenberg420
29 күн бұрын
Simon has an almost supernatural gift for saying the wrong thing to Kaylee.
@TheRealRedAce
29 күн бұрын
And Kaylee has a gift for unnecessarily taking the huff over it. She should realise Simon is just socially awkward.
@jasperzanovich2504
29 күн бұрын
@@TheRealRedAce A better reaction would have been to fake indignation over what he says but that would be the reaction of a completely different person.
@tracy4290
28 күн бұрын
@@TheRealRedAce Simon's in Kaylee's world now, he should be the one to adapt. And he's starting to. Letting her know where he's coming from in this episode is a good beginning.
@tracy4290
28 күн бұрын
@@jasperzanovich2504 Why would that be a "better" reaction? Genuinely curious.
@TheRealRedAce
28 күн бұрын
@@tracy4290 Its both their worlds. In all relationships, compromise is essential - or there is no relationship.
@sean437
29 күн бұрын
Firefly is a master class in character building. In only fourteen episodes, every character has development and an arc. Jayne, in particular, often changes from people's least favorite character who seems one dimensional to a fan favorite with layers. A later episode reveals his motivations in a throwaway comment and it genuinely humanizes him.
@Tantalus010
29 күн бұрын
Nah. Motivations don't matter. Jayne's still a greedy SOB who will turn on you in a heartbeat if the pay is good enough. Why he does that is 100% irrelevant: either way, you still get thrown out of an airplane.
@kimmypfeiffer9130
29 күн бұрын
and because of his interactions and treatment of river and simon, i alway wanted the twenty year reunion story have river and jayne married lol...she kicked his ass and can kill him with her brain...match made in heaven!
@ragabashmoon1551
29 күн бұрын
What makes that Bible scene my favorite is that Joss Whedon is an atheist and Ron Glass is a Buddhist. Hence the line "It's not about making sense, it's about faith. You don't fix faith, River. It fixes you." holds so much more meaning coming from them, at least in my eyes.
@fullmoonprepping4024
29 күн бұрын
I love this Jayne-centric episode. He is NOT a 2 dimensional character. He is a product of the 'Verse he was born into. He doesn't need a tragic backstory. He does have feelings and struggles with them. His personality is very complex believe it or not.
@gregrtodd
29 күн бұрын
A perfect start to the week. My favorite reviewer watching my favorite show (and the next one Out of Gas is my favorite episode) Thanks Jacqui! Your insight always makes my day.
@movienightwithjacqui
29 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!
@aaronhusk
29 күн бұрын
On the DVD set, there is an Easter egg of Adam Baldwin singing “The Hero of Canton (the ballad of Jayne)”
@ryanakers1372
29 күн бұрын
Love how committed you were to chekhov's mud in this episode. 😂🤣
@jameshawkins6201
28 күн бұрын
This episode is all about faith: Faith in your tradition, Faith in someone else, and Faith in yourself. Although what I have Faith in has changed over my many years, I still admire it when I see it.
@john3850
29 күн бұрын
Ive never tought of this episode and Chekhov's Mud Pit
@GregInHouston2
28 күн бұрын
I like Simon's comment about Jayne. He's "like a trained ape ... without the training."
@davidaward82
29 күн бұрын
i think the intention with jayne was for his character to be the spike analogue in a longer multi-series role... a bad guy, from the wrong side of the tracks, who never expected anything better for themselves, slowly learning to better themselves from those around him. Unfortunately, fox decided to can the series too soon for a lot of stories to pan out properly.
@walterrutherford8321
29 күн бұрын
Jayne has some of my favorite one-liners. The interesting thing about this episode is that Jane changed the mudders’ lives, but they changed him too. He was prepared to take a shotgun blast that he pretty much deserved. But he can’t for the life of him understand someone innocent literally taking a bullet for him. He enjoyed being the (false) hero for once, but the boy’s sacrifice clearly sucked all the fun out of it.
@estephens13
29 күн бұрын
Love this episode. The jokes all land but its the character stuff that really hits as always.
@MinofDeath
29 күн бұрын
Jayne is my favorite character. He has the most growth of all the characters during the show.
@markkreitler519
29 күн бұрын
Jayne: best character arc in the show. Least explicit - told largely through side panels and inference. Most people don’t get it, abut he is my favorite.
@TheEvilJade
29 күн бұрын
Same. The thing about him is how much he grows the most in the whole series.
@kathrynck
29 күн бұрын
My favorite too. Although Vira puts up some fierce competition for his affections.
@ernesthakey3396
29 күн бұрын
I love that in this one we see some of Inara's counseling skills - sure, there was sex work, but there's definitely counseling going on there too. 😊
@aaronjohnson8786
29 күн бұрын
I read that Jayne was intended to be a sort of secondary antagonist, however actor Adam Baldwin did something at his audition that not only got him the job, but changed the character from what was written.
@xzonia1
29 күн бұрын
What did he do?
@ragabashmoon1551
29 күн бұрын
This is very much a fan favorite episode, we Browncoats are as likely to burst into song singing The Hero of Canton as we are the main Firefly theme.
@happyslapsgiving5421
29 күн бұрын
🎶🎵 Jayne... the man they call Jayne! _He robbed from the rich_ _And he gave to the poor_ _Stood up to the man_ _And he gave him what for_ _Our love for him now_ _Ain't hard to explain_ _The hero of Canton_ _The man they call Jayne_ Our Jayne saw the mudders' backs breakin' He saw the mudders' lament He saw that magistrate takin' Every dollar and leavin' five cents So he said "you can't do that to my people" "You can't crush them under your heel" So Jayne strapped on his hat And in five seconds flat Stole everythin' Boss Higgins had to steal _He robbed from the rich_ _And he gave to the poor_ _Stood up to the man_ _And he gave him what for_ _Our love for him now_ _Ain't hard to explain_ _The hero of Canton_ _The man they call Jayne_ Now here's what separates heroes From common folk like you and I The man they call Jayne He turned around his plane And let that money hit sky He dropped it onto our houses He dropped it into our yards The man they called Jayne He stole away our pain And headed out for the stars _He robbed from the rich_ _And he gave to the poor_ _Stood up to the man_ _And he gave him what for_ _Our love for him now_ _Ain't hard to explain_ _The hero of Canton_ _The man they call Jayne!_ 🎵🎶
@bellaluthiel4858
29 күн бұрын
You're the only reactor I've ever seen that recognized Fess' body language at the end. Cool!
@steveaustin2686
29 күн бұрын
Boss Higgins staggers back a bit too, like he turned into a rattlesnake or something. Great scene.
@seanirvin7966
29 күн бұрын
Natalie Gold had some pretty funny commentary about it in her reaction
@SuperCaliforniaKate
29 күн бұрын
Thanks for bringing me back to Firefly. I didn't know that I needed to revisit this series, but I did and I wouldn't have done so without you.
@abeclark524
29 күн бұрын
This is one of my favorite episodes, right along with "Our Ms. Reynolds"
@quinns4560
29 күн бұрын
As always your reactions are super enjoyable, i particularly like the film making perspective that you bring. Also, major props to your editor (or you if you do it yourself) that fairy godmother cut in at the end was S-tier.
@lvfd6117
28 күн бұрын
Legit one of the saddest things about this show not getting more was just the little groundwork whedon laid dor jayne was almost for sure gonna be such incredible growth in later seasons
@tomcox875
28 күн бұрын
The slow, sad version of The Ballad of Jayne that was playing when Mal and Janye were talking at the end was a nice touch. Did not notice that the first time through.
@michaelchancey5505
29 күн бұрын
In a later episode I think it's "Out of Gas" I believe some more of Jane's backstory and how he came to be a member of the crew is revealed, it's quite interesting and pure Joss Whedon. Jane's definitely a flawed character but he's necessary to the crew and I can't fault him for that... much?
@kimmypfeiffer9130
29 күн бұрын
i bought a candy bar from the man/actor who sold serenity to mal lol...real life...i don't know why that always makes me happy...
@Aeroldoth3
29 күн бұрын
A hot box is a torture "device". You keep a person locked in it as a prison, which is obviously a lot smaller than a standard jail cell. The torture comes into play because this was used in Asia, where it can get very hot and very humid. The stifling, _cooking_ heat that would occur inside would be *AGONIZING* ... and all with zero effort by the torturers (like waterboarding, you can feel like you're dying without actually dying). You keep them inside, water them ocasionally, and they suffer horribly every day, all day long. And most of the night.
@Dreamfox-df6bg
29 күн бұрын
If I remember right, some are also build so there is no way to sit in them comfortably. So even if the temperature becomes more agreeable you get little rest. If you do, you it hurts a lot when you wake up. Like the one shown here. A hot box that's big enough to lay down in or sit comfortably is bad enough as it is, the smaller ones are torture on top of torture.
@Aeroldoth3
29 күн бұрын
@@Dreamfox-df6bg Correct. IIRC most were too small to be fully erect in. A place not even big enough to stand or lay down fully erect is indeed further pain, but less than the temp and humidity. Can't stretch out, can't move around, being slow baked, constantly eaten by insects... it is a living hell.
@lazykbys
29 күн бұрын
Also, keep in mind that solitary confinement is considered to be a severe form of punishment today. Not being able to talk to people for a long stretch of time can have long-lasting adverse effects.
@kenle2
28 күн бұрын
I'm truly not trying to be snarky, but ... "You've inflicted horrible physical torture on that man, but worst of all, you DAMAGED HIM EMOTIONALLY!" [Sadistic torturer] "By Jove, you're right!" "Smithers, make sure all our prisoners get a comfort animal in their cells between trips to the rack. Can't be breaking APA regulations."
@therealpbristow
28 күн бұрын
@@kenle2 Heh. =:oD
@lumina1104
28 күн бұрын
The best part for me was the final scene. Jayne showed dismay and sorrow over how things turned out. It upped the catharsis. He might be a blunt weapon, but he does have some level of empathy.
@dalesharp9953
28 күн бұрын
This is such a fun episode. Remember this show was cancelled midseason. The arc of the show and the characters were just getting develop. The show was supposed to be five to seven years.
@gr8mystery
29 күн бұрын
Loving this vid series. IDK how I came across your channel but I'm glad I did.
@movienightwithjacqui
29 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@davidhill2275
27 күн бұрын
And here's the other episode reaction I'm here for. There's a town nearby called Canton, and my wife and I almost always sing "The Hero of Canton" when we drive through it.
@davemills7030
28 күн бұрын
One of my fav lines in the whole show: Wash says "We gotta go to the crappy town where I'm a hero."
@Se7enDuece
29 күн бұрын
Since I discovered your channel, I keep a lookout for your Firefly reactions. Can't wait until you react to "Serenity". Keep up the great work!
@movienightwithjacqui
29 күн бұрын
Thank you! I can't wait to share the rest of the series!
@nomis
28 күн бұрын
I love having both my favorite show and such a beautiful hostess at the same time! Your reactions are wonderful! You catch on quickly but can still be taken by surprise. Its great 😂
@Hawksmoor42
29 күн бұрын
Ah, classic Chekhov's muddy water.
@petercolson2990
29 күн бұрын
I love how you've elevated the mud into Chekov's Gunk 😅
@jkbrown5496
29 күн бұрын
I remember a commentary by Adam Baldwin on the DVD of how he asked about the motivation. Whedon or one of the writers told him that bad characters aren't evil, they have their justification for their actions
@ferdinandvillafuerte468
29 күн бұрын
Can't wait for the next episode. Ep8 is definitely a crowd favorite.
@zairac2564
29 күн бұрын
This episode does give us one tragic "backstory" for Jayne: this ending.
@Otokichi786
29 күн бұрын
"Jaynestown": Mal takes a smuggling job, Inara's client has a question, and Simon poses as a high class mud buyer.
@cirrustate8674
29 күн бұрын
"Tonight, on Firefly..."
@dougearnest7590
29 күн бұрын
Jaynestown: Simon poses as a rich mud buyer, River learns a secret about the Shepherd, and Jayne reconnects with an old partner.
@KenS1267
29 күн бұрын
No, this is what going mad feels like.
@BigDamnHero74
29 күн бұрын
“I want to go to the crappy town where I’m the hero…”
@Delarissa
28 күн бұрын
I never see people pick it up that during the scene where Mal is speaking with Jayne on Serenity at the end it is playing "The Man They Call Jayne" very slowly just to drive the point home.
@ronniedeen3651
29 күн бұрын
"We gotta go to the crappy town where I'm a hero." My favorite line in the entire series.
@brauliob
29 күн бұрын
Simon's wardrobe really takes a beating here. First a huge muddy hand print, then they forget it back at the bar and leave it behind.
@rudewalrus5636
29 күн бұрын
As you said yourself, this show goes to the edge of camp - but doesn't cross over. Having someone fall in the mud would have been the kind of cheap pratfall that most definitely would have crossed the line. There's actually considerable depth to this episode. It's all about the symbols that people put value on. Jayne. The Bible. Virginity. Ultimately their importance comes not from something innate, but from the importance that people ascribe to them.
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