It is crazy how the front facia of the pre-refresh KL Cherokee was ahead of its time with the split running light and headlight design. Now, many automakers copied the pre-refresh Cherokee’s design, like General Motors, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Hyundai, BYD, etc.
@madmeh2929
Күн бұрын
In 2014-2015, I was looking at the Cherokee but found numerous articles about the ZF transmission problems, including never getting to 9th gear.
@MarspeedCars
Күн бұрын
Yeah there were so many 9 speed problems at first. They seem to have improved things after 2016 but the first two years were full of all sorts of transmission issues
@nathanchambers985
Күн бұрын
I have 2015 Cherokee bought new. The V6 paired with the 9 speed works fine. The transmission doesn't operate like people are use to,hence they would make claims about it that weren't real.
@falalfel222-li5xv
11 минут бұрын
The reason for this is that the ZF 9HP was designed to be programmed and adapted based on what manufacturer was using it and what car it was in. Supposedly, the way that Jeep progammed the Cherokees transmission was quite odd, setting the 9th gear shift point at something like 85mph. In reality, the Cherokees transmission is more like an 8 speed since the 9th gear is so high its basically unreachable thanks to wind resistance and speed limits.
@MatthewTheCCMA
17 сағат бұрын
My friend out of high school in 2014 got a Cherokee Laredo as a graduation gift, I remember getting into it and first thinking “wow, this is a jeep?” the seats were extremely comfortable. The ride was really really nice, really good sized back seat that eventually had a car seat and fit well. I’ll never forgot tho the first time she got asked to bring it to off roading jeep events in Ohio and her having to explain why she couldn’t. 😂 then hearing “it’s not 4x4?!?” NOPE! 👎🏻 she blew peoples mind that you could even get a 4x2. But like you said, a comfortable SUV describes it well, it was decently impressive with the level of quality in the interior, especially considering what we were getting normally in Jeeps around the 2009-2011 Era. One GLARING problem was the 9 Speed, they really had the programming all wrong. I remember taking my first couple rides in it and feeling the roughness, first gear to second gear picked and chose whether it wanted to shift smoothly. Second to Third Gear I literally could never figure out a way to make it shift gears. Now it was a personal crime to this particular jeep because my friend never took it in for any Software updates so this remained all the way to 98k miles. By then, it was shifting so horribly that even she couldn’t ignore it. I felt that if Chrysler maybe would have had a little more help from ZF when programming the transmission (and maybe the did, who know) I think it may have gone a little bit better. From what I understand from the Pacifica Forums I’m in they seem to have figured out the programming issues by now but who knows! I do miss that SUV, it Shocking never had one single problem other than her ignoring the tranmission roughness 😂
@jasonz7788
Күн бұрын
Welcome back! Thank you sir
@lamarwilliams9874
13 сағат бұрын
Man i have missed you. Great video as always. Love from Charlotte NC
@chuckgladfelter
6 сағат бұрын
We have a 2018 AWD Limited with the 2.4 Multiair motor. It's been a really good car and is comfortable on trips. It goes very well in the snow.
@nathanchambers985
Күн бұрын
Have 2015 Cherokee with almost 200,000 miles. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned.
@JamEZ87
4 сағат бұрын
The Jeep Cherokee and Nissan Juke started the split headlight design. The first new gen Cherokee looked weird then they came out with the second version and looked a lot better. I also like the way the brake light becomes a turn signal.
@robbamford4134
15 сағат бұрын
I had one of these with the 6 cylinder. I like everything about it except for the transmission and panoramic sun roof. The tranny never went into the 9th gear and it often didn’t shift down into first after a stop. The sun roof leaked behind the interior panels, and corroded the e brake computer which caused the brake to lock on unexpectedly. The brake couldn’t be released to allow the car to move. The replacement computer was $1400 and dealership said it would be a couple thousand to reseal sunroof and it would likely leak anyways. They really messed up what would have been a nice car.
@iNeverHadMercy
18 сағат бұрын
The Anniversary Editions must be VERY limited because I am a "Vehicle Watcher" and I have NEVER seen one on the road 😮
@sneakerfreak2002
2 сағат бұрын
We had a used one on our lot. We celebrated when it finally sold. What a smouldering lump
@zachstefanowski2846
Күн бұрын
Welcome back!
@roc6d
Күн бұрын
Now u only see these get used to ram stores in Chicago
@MarspeedCars
Күн бұрын
😂😂
@JesusRamirez-yi6xy
22 сағат бұрын
This segment is super competitive, Jeep needs something this size (in my opinion) to compete with Toyota RAV4 and Honda CR-V, the Jeep Compass (in my opinion) competes with something smaller like a Toyota CorollaCross or Honda HR-V
@cameronschultz9320
Күн бұрын
I own Cherokee Overland 4x4 AD1 and have only had a two issues, which were not mentioned. #1 SVC 4WD and much less serious #2 Service Shifter warning. The PTU decided to bind and practically seized itself at around 104k miles (never took it offroad, apparently it is engaged frequently). $3200 later, brand new and no problems since. The PTU for the Trailhawk is a much more common problem, so much so that there is a recall for MY14 to MY16 for it. #2 was just an annoyance. The shifter harness was bent at an extreme angle from the factory, causing the wiring to become loose. Wasn't a big deal as you could still park/drive/reverse. It was easy to deal with, just required restarting the vehicle. The error disappeared for days to weeks. I just replaced it for $50 recently because I got tired of seeing it. Otherwise, haven't had a problem with it. MY14-MY16 and MY19 are the years to steer clear from. The face lift came with all the same issues MY14 faced. Good job, FCA.
@almeisam
Күн бұрын
The biggest problem I've had with my 2017 Cherokee is the shifter and the wiring harness for it. One, the other, or both, start having issues about every 18 months. I'm hoping the last shifter wiring harness replacement will keep working (so far it has). Also, in a cross-country trip I took a couple of months ago, I was getting between 28 and 35 MPG (28 while fighting headwinds on I-80 in Wyoming, 35 on I-70 in Ohio). The biggest issue I see for Jeep in their entirety is they become far overpriced.
@MarspeedCars
Күн бұрын
Interesting, haven’t heard too much about those problems. Wiring issues are always a pain in the ass though. That mileage is pretty decent, I’d be very happy with 30+ MPG on the highway. Which engine is that with? Yes I 100% agree, the Jeeps are so expensive now for what you get, but it seems like the whole auto industry price wise has gone insane. New vehicles are just not worth MSRP (or above)
@donaldwilson2620
12 сағат бұрын
Other than the early issues with the ZF 9 speed automatic, another possible reason why the 2014-23 Cherokee got canceled was too much competition. When it was introduced, the compact SUV class was already taking off, and when you're competing with top sellers like the Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V, and Ford Escape, you really need to stand out to be competitive, and with the possibly exception of the Trailhawk, the Cherokee wasn't a stand out. Plus, when the Cherokee got discontinued, most of the competition had already made significant upgrades, and the Cherokee felt old in comparison, which is also one of Stellantis' major problem as well, an aging product line.
@mrgurulittle7000
21 сағат бұрын
I liked this generation Cherokee although at the time it felt a little misnamed. But it was a good car.
@theredtruckyt1193
16 сағат бұрын
I like how I'm working on one of these thats leaking from everywhere. With a bad shifter and a bad power steering module... junkk
@Cameronacres
Күн бұрын
So many Chrysler products are getting discontinued in 2024
@billypeterson9284
Күн бұрын
They should discontinue Chrysler itself in 2024
@MarspeedCars
Күн бұрын
Stellantis is in tough, not much going right for them at the moment (other than Jeep and Ram)
@Cameronacres
Күн бұрын
@@MarspeedCars Chryslers going bankrupt because their cars are expensive and dated nobody's buying them anymore.
@Cameronacres
Күн бұрын
Nothing's going on with Chrysler or dodge other than the new srt Daytona charger
@michaelcoffey7362
18 сағат бұрын
Good video 🥰
@MoparAdventure
14 сағат бұрын
shouldve released the turbodiesel in the USA it wouldnt have been a complete flop. the 2.4L tigershark engine is a fiat wonder engine, I wonder if it will even last 100k miles. every 2.4l tigershark I test drove smelled like it had a blown head gasket. We drove 6 of them before writing them off the list for the grand cherokee. if the Cherokee didnt have that awful zf9 but a zf8 rear wheel drive bias we'd buy one today. the zf9 was a nightmare.
@Classicmoderndodgefan
Күн бұрын
What about your two dodge charger do you still have them
@MarspeedCars
Күн бұрын
Yes I still do. Will make some kind of video on them before winter
@youtubecarspottersguide1
Күн бұрын
looked at them in 2014-15 wanted a base trail hawk V6 no opts to keep the price low most dealers ordered the top trim with very opt in the book it did hurt that at one time jeep had renegade ,compass ,patriot , cherokee
@daves9616
15 сағат бұрын
Its sad that Stellantis killed the Cherokee name. Would Toyota kill the RAV4 or Honda the CRV??? Jeep with all their focus into the smaller compass which was made overseas. The Cherokee was a great vehicle. My wife and I had a 2018 trailhawk. It was probably the most comfortable car I've ever had. Perfect size decent on trails and a monster in the snow. Yeah the nine speeds had their early issues but they figured them out.
@falalfel222-li5xv
3 минут бұрын
As the owner of a 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk, I do think these vehicles are a little misunderstood. Honestly, I think that the KL works as a logical, modern interpretation of the old Cherokees, being a smaller, more efficient and road focused Jeep model compared to the Wrangler. Plus, in Trailhawk form, they actually are REALLY impressive offroad. Its not a wrangler or anything, it doesn't have the articulation or clearence for that, but for a crossover, its second to none I think where it all falls apart is the execution. The interior quality sucks, the reliability is questionable and its fairly uneventful to drive. It's the definition of a 4 out of 10 car. The only reason I think buying one makes sense is if you buy a Trailhawk and intend to use it as an offroader/dailydriver (like I did). Otherwise, just get the Toyota.
@nintendoatarikiller
Күн бұрын
wb just in time for the stellantis gong show lol
@damilolaakanni
19 сағат бұрын
I don't think Jeep understood the consumer market when they released the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. Full size body on frame SUVs are the worst selling category of SUV in North America. Even then, they have to compete against the GM full size SUVs which have been the best sellers for decades, as well as the Ford Expedition, not counting more reliable options like the Nissan Armada and Toyota Sequioa.
@jakeywakey4424
11 сағат бұрын
The new Cherokee’s are cute but the reliability issues were enough to make stay far away from Jeep as a whole lol
@1stSilversnow
Күн бұрын
It’s too bad they really changed the styling. It’s fairly competitive for its class. If they somehow gave it a more off road suspension, it would wipe the floor with the bronco sport in fords class. Then again, with the slight increase in costs, I guess you’re looking at a small pickup. This whole brand is a tragedy
@bluecollarbuilds
Күн бұрын
My girlfriends got one of these thankfully it’s a newer one
@myyoutubename152
16 сағат бұрын
Have you ever been in one? I'd say the two worst things about the car is the packaging (it's big outside, but tight inside), and the stiff ride. Neither are good Jeep attributes.
@stevevalley7835
13 сағат бұрын
Given the rate that RAV4s sell, seems the issues with the Cherokee were a stale, outdated design, and price escalation. Jeep developed a follow on model, for China. Dubbed the "Commander", it offered fresh styling, an upgraded interior, and a stretched "Grand Commander" that offered a third row seat, all on the same platform. Seems it would have been obvious to offer the Commander and Grand Commander in North America, as a follow on to both the Cherokee and Journey, rather than abandoning a very popular market segment. The self-serving statements from Stellantis can be translated into "we are dropping the Cherokee so prospects have no alternative to a Grand Cherokees, so we can take more money off them". Thing is, people do have an alternative, a RAV4 or CR-V. And now, Stellantis' program of progressively taking more money off people, seems to be blowing up in their face.
@jonlosito2004
11 сағат бұрын
This is literally the 2nd time they killed off the Cherokee since like 2001 😂😂
@Modine.
Күн бұрын
I wish you had mentioned the Cherokee shared a platform with the Dart.
@igarrett113
23 сағат бұрын
Don’t forget the Chrysler 200 as well.
@baronvonjo1929
17 сағат бұрын
My friend has one in all black and I don't think anyone is particularly impressed by it. It looks and feels like it will break down at any moment despite having about 110k miles last I saw. It's just not really a sturdy car. She misses her Jeep Commander but the engine blew. It was full of plastic amd of course loaded with issuesm but she liked it for the looks and space. Her family got her the Cherokee for free so she can't complain too much but she isn't a fan. It certainly is fairly cramped and poorly put together. In my opinion. You're better off looking elsewhere.
@raymond_sycamore
7 сағат бұрын
FIAT..... need I say more?
@gartblaum
Күн бұрын
Designed by bean counters
@NewtownVids
Күн бұрын
As for 2024 nobody needs chrysler. Nobody needs a chrysler Pacifica minivan. That's only vehicle they have in they lineup. They should've kept the 300.
@amcb2035
Күн бұрын
??
@MarspeedCars
Күн бұрын
I will say the Pacifica is a pretty good minivan and sells well, they are all over the place. Otherwise Chrysler has nothing to offer which is sad
@newswanofficial
Күн бұрын
except the pacifica sells more than the 300 hence why they kept the pacifica instead of the 300
@NewtownVids
Күн бұрын
@@MarspeedCars Frank Rhodes Jr the great-grandson of Walter P Chrysler is buying both Chrysler and Dodge and bring them back to their American roots.
@adrianzanoli
22 сағат бұрын
@@NewtownVids and who is gonna pay for it? Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep have a combined value of 2 to 3 billion dollars. Plus, 1 or 2 more billion dollars are needed to develop new platforms since the FCA/PSA ones are intellectual properties of Stellantis.
@ragnarnorthman2673
Күн бұрын
I liked renting this vehicle. No one is going to pay 40 grand when it's worth half that. Consumer preferences for larger versions, what? That costs 100 grand. That will be discontinued too. Electric version, what? No one wants an electric vehicle. I guess you tried with this vid. You have to call it what it is man.
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