listen to it over and over again. amazing. thank you!
@ThunderBroomPilot
11 жыл бұрын
I think that I have to watch it a few times to completely beneift from all you present. Thank you again.
@pstone104
9 жыл бұрын
This guy's a class act.
@DijahZain
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks💜
@ThunderBroomPilot
11 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you for your insights. Please provide much more.
@camilledanssatete8938
10 жыл бұрын
Always very inspiring to hear some truth. Thank you very much for sharing!
@ODDthoughts3
9 жыл бұрын
this has brought me so much peace
@earthianmike
8 жыл бұрын
He's listened to his Alan Watts ; ) I'd say : ) Good speach!
@lynnekieran3817
10 жыл бұрын
really enjoyed this presentation, thanks
@genelau5816
10 жыл бұрын
Jeff Lieberman has wonderfully explained a Buddhism concept "as we aged, our minds have a growing "habit" of thinking along me(separation) and future(worries)"
@FlorianPellet1
9 жыл бұрын
I really love this quote that Rogan said about living the questions. And so I have no answers for you in the next 15 minutes and I'm just going to offer you 6 riddles about the meaning of life; and if you're the kind of person who thinks about the meaning of life a lot - and maybe it's starting to plague your mind - maybe this will confuse you even further, we'll see what happens. The first one is have you ever seen a sunset? And I'll give you my interpretations of these but hopefully you go through them with me and explore them on your own. No you haven't seen the sun set. If you imagine yourself at a sunset, what do you see? You see that nothing around you is moving and there's a very very distant small object moving through the sky. We believed that this was what was happening, that we were at the center of everything with things spinning around us for like 99% of human history. But when we believed that and we starting charting the motion of the stars, we saw that there were a couple that didn't line up with the other ones so we called them wanderers and in Greek the word for wonder is planet. So we didn't know what planets were but they were these things that didn't line up. And then sometime in the last two thousand years someone looked at that sunset and they saw it again for the first time. They realized that the Sun doesn't actually set, that were spinning. And as soon as you look at a sunset and flip your perspective, our entire model of where we were in the universe collapsed and was replaced by a much simpler model that showed us much more depth immediately. All the sudden the Sun was one of the stars, we were one of the wandering planets, and one equation predicted all of their wandering motions to like a part in a billion. So the question for me is how many billions of pairs of eyes looked at how many millions of sunsets and had all the information in front of them to just flip that picture before one person did? There's no new information that you need, its all present in front of you. And if someone walks up and tells you, it's immediately clear that it's a possibility. But the fact that we have preconceptions about the way things are stops us from leaping into new understanding of things. And if you go to a sunset and have a preconception that the Sun is an object that's spinning around you, your beliefs are strengthened every single time you look at a sunset. Sometimes the only thing that stops us from understanding something new is not that there's anything missing, but it's that we have beliefs that we're holding onto. The second riddle is what is a vacation? A vacation is a state of mind where all of your attention is on exactly what you're doing and you're not trying to do it to get something out of it: you're only doing it for what it offers you right now. Now if I say "what is a vacation" and you all have images in your head, someone wants to be on the beach, someone wants to be reading in their house, someone wants to be climbing Mount Kilimanjaro in -40° weather... There's no kind of lined up picture that everyone shares. But the state of mind is something that everyone shares. We all of this ideal idea of what it is to feel like we're on a vacation, to feel like it's just effortless and our attention - that we just want to be where we are. And we all have different ideas as we grow up about what it means to be in that comfortable place: we get ideas that we want a certain kind of house situation, family life, financial life, social esteem... any of these things. But we didn't use to have that, you know. When you look at children, you see that there's just some deeper more automatic sense of being on vacation all the time: if there's not an immediate problem, there's just a joy inherent in what the person is doing, what the child is doing. But we have a culture and we have an educational system that stresses so deeply the preparation for the future that you don't even go to high school anymore, you go to College Preparatory Academy. Right? The first 20 years of your life you are taught that they are not just for enjoying them, they are to get you to be ready for real life later. And what happens as a side effect: we grow up and we're in a culture and we invent phrases like "stuck in traffic." Right? That phrase does not exist when cars exist. It exists only when a human being can have an attitude that what they're doing is not the most important thing. It's just a means to some other end: traffic is just something I have to get through to get where I really want to be. The more preferences I have that I need to have satisfied, the harder it is to feel, in a sense, a vacation. And how much patience do we have is a culture of these days with more and more of these preferences? You watch people standing in a line for 2 minutes and you'll see the kind of current state of how much we favor where we're going to be more than where we are. Now there's an irony about that and the irony is that if you believe you need something to be happy, you do. But did you need to believe that you needed it in the first place? The third riddle is what makes you nervous? What makes me nervous is your beliefs and your interpretations of a situation that's happening in front of you. And I'll give you the most prominent example from my own life: my friend Javier is a private pilot and he took me up in one of his Cessnas - not his Cessna, a rented Cessna - and we did what are called parabolic free falls. You know, where you just let the plane drop about a thousand feet. And if you've been on a roller coaster before, you have a scaled-down version of what this feels like. And if you remember it, right when you go over the top, what do you feel? You feel your stomach going to your chest, every single muscle tenses up in resistance of what's happening, you do not want to be where you are. Right? When you're in a plane and you actually see the ground 10,000 feet below and you're falling at 200 miles an hour, you feel that in a very very big way. So we do this and he wants to do it again, he wants to show me again and I - you know - this is a little questionable for me. And he says: "just remember, this is how they train astronauts." There is a thing called a Vomit Comet and then they do these parabolic flights (because you tend to throw up while you're learning). But they drop the plane and from the perspective of inside the plane, when there's no wind in your face or anything, it's physically equivalent to being in the middle of empty space. That's why you start to lift out of your seat when the plane starts to fall. And so he does it again. And instead of interpreting it as listening to what my eyes and my interpretation are saying - that I'm hurdling towards my death - suddenly I think I'm in empty space. This is equivalent somehow to being in empty space. And I start to lift out of my chair and instead of every muscle tensing up I feel weightless. I feel like I'm floating and I am floating, there's no physical difference. So how is it that the only difference between total panic, fear and dread and a feeling of expansive effortless weightlessness is just my interpretation of what's happening? That's a really raw feeling, the feeling that you're going to die in the next couple of seconds is one of the most real feelings, and it was based entirely on my interpretation of the situation. What was life like when all of you were two days old and you didn't know how to interpret any of the things that you know now? How free and effortless did life feel then? The next riddle is what's your name? You have an answer yet, hopefully? Your name is a set of squiggles or a series of sounds that is a symbol or a signifier of the pattern of things that happened to this body. Right? My name is Jeff Lieberman, it's associated with the fact that I'm 34, I grew up in Miami, I live in Boston, I did all this stuff, whatever... But if I back up and I notice that I often tell people that I am Jeff Lieberman. Does that hold up to closer scrutiny? Is my name actually what I am? Because through all of the experiences of your life, don't you feel like you're the one having those experiences? Don't you feel like you exist prior to any of the specifics of what's happened to you? You have a sense of identity of being the thing that's looking out of your eyes right now, that is the experiencer of those experiences. And that's unchanged by any of the specifics of what happened to you. So somehow you cannot be identical - your identity is different from your name. It's different from all the things that have happened to you, and it's different from the pattern. Well maybe my identity is just my body then. But if we look up close at what the body actually is doing, that all falls apart too. Because your body replaces 98% of the atoms in it every single year. Which means if you look at a picture of yourself 5 years ago, less than 1 trillionth of you is the same - millionth, sorry. Less than 1 millionth of you is the same as that person was 5 years ago. And yet, isn't there a feeling within us that there is part of our identity that is absolutely completely unchanged through our entire lives? Furthermore, if you look up close at the body, it's 99.99999% empty space and it does things that you as a personality have no idea how it happens. Right? You go you eat a cheeseburger and that becomes your leg the next day. Right? If you are if you are pregnant and you feel like "look I know how to build a baby!" You don't know how to build a baby. You can't build like a foot or a leg... You have to build the whole thing because the body knows what to do when you beat the cheeseburger. So, somehow, your sense of identity is totally separate from this body that's recycling itself all the time and it's totally separate from anything that has ever happened to you. Where do the stars go? To say it more fully, where do the stars go at dawn? Nowhere. Right? They're out all day, when you see the sky they're out. If you go to a sunrise and you go at 3 in the morning and you're the middle of nowhere, you see thousands of stars out and you see this infinite gigantic emptiness of space, all around you. And then all of the sudden, one of these stars that happens to be a million times as close as the other ones starts to show up. We rotated into view. And all of the sudden, it shines so much light at the atmosphere - which is a tiny little thin film around our planet. Suddenly that transparent atmosphere becomes red and orange and blue. And everything behind it disappears. Right? The stars disappear, the feeling of empty deep space, all this disappears because there's one light that's so much brighter. But during the day, the stars are sending the same exact amount of light to your eyes. But you don't see them. We don't see them because there's too much noise in the signal and sometimes a much more delicate and subtle part of a signal is lost if there's one part that is so so noisy. Now, how does this relate to us? Well maybe there's a part of us that's hiding and masking other parts of our identity. And I think it's very clear that that part of us is conceptual thinking. If you want to try an experiment, next time you take a shower, try to take a shower without thinking about anything else. See if you last 3 seconds. Right? This is something that did not exist for 99.9% of biological history: the ability to think about other things than what's right in front of you. And now you're in a state where that is such a powerful evolutionary mechanism, to be able to plan for the future - no doubt very powerful - we cannot turn it off anymore. We think incessantly, all the time non stop. About our lives, about our past, about our future... Myriad number of ways. So maybe there's part of our lives part of our sense of identity that has nothing to do with any of that and we just can't notice it because we're thinking so loud all the time. Now the final riddle is where do I go? There's a miraculous thing that happens to us each and every single day: we go to sleep. And we ask these questions about going to sleeping when we're 4, but we forget to keep asking them. What happens when you go to sleep, really what happens when you go to sleep? Your personality, your sense of your name, your sense of having had all of your experiences, your sense of being this body, they all go out the window. They disappear. Your sense of time passing disappears. And yet you are there, something about your identity still exists before there's any conscious knowledge of your own existence. This is something that is within all of us and we experience it every night. But as soon as you wake up, what is the thought that crosses your mind? The first thought: "I am a body in a world." This is what every single one of us - this is the system coming online in the morning: "I am a body in the world." And that thought is a separating thought. That belief says that I am one thing and the rest of the universe is separate from me. And that thought didn't exist 5 seconds before you woke up. So what was it like to exist in that state before any thoughts about being separate were around? If we look at every spiritual tradition and even the scientific tradition, in the abstract, they say exactly the same thing: they say it looks like there's a lot of totally different things around but that's an illusion, it's actually all one thing. Now maybe the problem is that thinking itself is a mechanism to differentiate, to separate things. Maybe thinking cannot actually help us understand what that oneness, what that unity might feel like. Maybe we get stuck arguing about the differences in all of our spiritual and scientific stories, ignorant of the fact that any attempt of conceptually thinking about them may be the thing that covers up the experience itself. And the more that we think about it the more than we may be pulled away from understanding it and knowing it directly. So maybe there is something going on that we're seeing totally backwards. Maybe we can't try to complete ourselves by finding things on the outside. Maybe we have to actually start to look at ourselves, at how our belief structures are generated, at the belief that we are experiences, the belief that we are our bodies, and the belief, fundamentally, that we are separate. Maybe instead of looking for an answer to what is the meaning of life, we should try to figure out who is it - at the source of that question - who asks that question? We all, I believe, feel that there's a part of us that has never ever changed; as far as we can remember it's exactly the same. And what if it has never ever changed? Thanks
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