Once Jeff and Chuck got into the substance of this discussion there were some really key insights. I too had an a-ha moment when Jeff linked legal standards of privacy, traffic stops, policing, civil rights (not to mention fear of the citizenry and risk to police in a gun-obsessed country), and road engineering. The most unfree country - I completely agree. And that is without even discussing the car-dependence that has been designed or retrofitted into cities, towns, and suburbs. Chuck's points about engineers arguing that speeding is an enforcement problem also points to the dysfunctional siloing of governmental agencies - planning, economic development, transportation, and policing are usually quite separate and often working at cross purposes. This also reflects a sort of toxic logic of late capitalism as reflected in governance - there is a lot more $ to be had creating a problem and then having to constantly try to ameliorate or contain it than to prevent it in the first place. Or, why the USA is going so deeply in debt at all levels, including externalized costs. Where are true fiscal conservatives when we need them? Oh wait - thanks Strong Towns! Partisanship often gets in the way of progress and solidarity, indeed.
@Korina42
2 жыл бұрын
I read Walkable City Rules a couple of years ago, and loved it so much I bought a copy for our city engineer to pass around the office; I don't think he ever read it. While it's aimed at larger cities, a number of the rules still apply to our little (approaching 19,000) one.
@JC-vq2cs
2 жыл бұрын
This is the first I have heard of the state's legal action against Marohn on an honest mistake and technicality regarding re-licensing. This appears to be a clear case of the equivalent of a SLAPP suit in which corporations sue activists to discredit, bankrupt, or otherwise silence them. I had not heard of a state using similar tactics. As a former MN resident I am very disheartened by this heavy-handed tactic that is costing Marohn and Strong Towns time, stress, $, and indeed, credibility. As a concerned citizen and good design advocate, how can we put public pressure on the state? Often like it or not, publicity matters. Who would we petition on Marohn's behalf? It is a waste of public resources to be harassing him this way, to say the least.
@AustinSersen
2 жыл бұрын
I always love when Jeff comes on the podcast!
@mcc.o.4835
2 жыл бұрын
I think American society needs something much more foundational. A common set of values. Last week while walking my kid to the neighborhood school and crossing the street drivers don't stop for people at crosswalks. Cars have the right of way, not adults, not kids. The Dutch have established a common set of values. I don't think Americans share this same values.
@tom.jacobs
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it is purely "value-based" though [if you mean lack of common sense/politeness]. Here (i happen to be dutch) the most vulnerable get (by law) the right of way. That is almost absolute, regardless of the local traffic situation. As a cyclist i can go passing a stop-signed crossing with red traffic lights, and be hit by a car: still, the car driver needs to prove there was nothing he could have done to prevent the accident before he is not having to pay the damage. [I might get a ticket for not stopping, but that's it.. ] In our (pretty hard) license period we are taught that, but before we are old enough to be able to get one it is part of knowledge because then you are one of the vulnerable members on the street. At the same time, I am amazed at (so many) places where crosswalks are only an indication of where you are allowed to cross, not a place where traffic stops to see if somebody is crossing/wants to cross.
@snackums996
Жыл бұрын
There are streets and intersections where cars have the right of way and vice versa for pedestrians/bikes. However the rules here in the states are clearly defined. In some states pedestrians have the right of way, and in others cars do.
@ethakis
2 жыл бұрын
Very good podcast, I picked up the audio book for walkable city today.
@sambishop1667
2 жыл бұрын
Strange episode. Chuck invites Jeff to come on his podcast, Jeff says that he's going to interview Chuck, and then Jeff does all the talking. The content was good, as always, though.
@JamesTsividis
2 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you're an expert :D
@rachelmuller707
2 жыл бұрын
I read walkable city rules while interning at my local planning department about 4 years ago! It was transformative and I still follow many of the rules that my small brain remembers! You are very right Jeff, it is definitely the relevant book for planners and city engineers whereas I would recommend my family or such to read walkable cities if they want to learn more about what I do. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge!
@JC-vq2cs
2 жыл бұрын
I would encourage Jeff to research the issue of speed cameras or other automated enforcement on various groups of drivers - socioeconomic, racial/ethnic, private vs commercial. Streetsblog recently posted articles about both the effectiveness of speed cameras in reducing crashes in Chicago but also disparate impacts on minority drivers, both in terms of rates of ticketing and relative economic costs due to fees and fines. Seemingly neutral technology can magnify existing spatial discrimination. Lower income and minority residents are more likely to live close to stroads, off-ramps, and streets designed for high speeds, for example. As a proponent of speed cameras or other automated enforcement myself, this data gave me pause. Fundamental reform of civil engineering and street design to manage speed is clearly a better approach but a potentially slower and more complicated one. That said, the pushback against speed cameras in many communities is also high.
@saranbhatia8809
2 жыл бұрын
Creating the needed awareness!
@801oap
6 ай бұрын
How would pedestrian crossings work at a busy all-ways-stop intersection?
@erikwestberg5348
2 жыл бұрын
I understand why Jeff Speck wants us to read the whole book but some of the rules are just too concentrated on conditions in the US to be applicable in Europe.
@triaxe-mmb
2 жыл бұрын
What's the status of the case?
@aCycloneSteve
2 жыл бұрын
Police solution: All County & City ticket revenue goes to the state. All state police ticket revenue goes to the Fed's. (State funding of local government can't be based on ticket revenue)
@andreahitschfeld7639
2 жыл бұрын
I was driving on highway 20 in Montreal between Dorval and downtown and the posted maximum speed limit is 70km/hour, but the highway is three lanes with additional in and out lanes on the right. Long straightaways, with gentle curves and gentle dips. At that moment, traffic density was pretty much close to its minimum. and so everyone was going at least 90-100km/hour, but for one person (happily going 70 in the right most lane) and I was thinking that with modern sensor technology and with electronic panels, the allowable speed limit should be adjusted depending on road conditions and congestion. Or as you say, if the cities want people to only go at 70km/hour no matter what the conditions, then they should design the roadway as such.
@70M45-c9r
2 жыл бұрын
Stupid question, but which of those books is useful for me If I want to become transportation planner one day, but I am in Europe?
@ChrisSmith-bh2hg
2 жыл бұрын
That's not a stupid question. That's a normal question. A stupid question would be liike, "Why is the third hand on a clock called the second hand?"
@70M45-c9r
2 жыл бұрын
@@noahhancke7700 oken, i am starting my 2022 x-mas wish list 😅
@aCycloneSteve
2 жыл бұрын
I would love for your attorneys to "discover" how many engineers have let their license laps in the last 20 years and what happened to THEM. Equal justice under the law, baby!
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