LeBron did less with more while MJ did more with less.
@Radamesprimez
6 ай бұрын
Name me a team that had 4 hall of famers players still at their peaks and a HOF coach Outside of the bulls. Foh
@29larron
6 ай бұрын
@Radamesprimez where's the lie lol smh attacking this mancomment like he said somn wrong.What other player did Jordan play with besides Pippen that u had to fear offensively?LeFraud has stacked the deck with hall of famers but u on this man comment acting like he offended ya mama!U Bronnyknobbers have no shame
@shayj5124
6 ай бұрын
Yassssss!
@truthteller5521
6 ай бұрын
@@Radamesprimezfirst three-peat only has Scottie Pippen as a hall of famer, and Pippen was unheralded coming out of college, a player Bron would have forced management to trade, especially after the migraine game 7 when he was already three years in the league. Phil Jackson was a rookie coach when he took over the reigns, no resume as far as professional coaching. Bron would have gotten rid of him as soon as Phil would have tried to implement a system that took the ball out his hands. Bron fans are the most ignorant muphukas when it comes to basketball history.
@Radamesprimez
6 ай бұрын
@@truthteller5521 Phil won at every level he coached prior to the NBA. He a former player and champion. Jordan lead the league in shots per game, I think lebron would be fine with that. Same reason Kobe was able to do the same. Cause they 0- every season in chip’s without Phil. Second that exact team the year Mike left had 3 all stars that year so fuck you talking about first 3 peat that why dummy. When lebron leaves. That same team super ass. Jordan had the ball in his hand more than lebron check the minutes on top of that lebron has almost 11,000 assist.let Me tell you casuals a stat you can’t understand the man has the most chips without a HOF coach bruh and there’s no one close. So imagine if he had one
@leechrec
6 ай бұрын
When Lebron moved to Miami, most people thought it was a weak ass move and was seen as pretty embarrassing. Then something interesting happened. People started to justify it and say it wasn't a big deal. They started moving goal posts for Lebron.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
That's true!
@eastgate6134
6 ай бұрын
I didn't think it was a weak move moreso a player exercising free agency. Any player leaving they career in hands of a bad front office is stupid
@29larron
6 ай бұрын
@@eastgate6134 it was a weak move
@Nysdaddy
6 ай бұрын
@east… Lol, that’s cute. They built that team perfectly around Lebron, which is why they went to the Finals and won 60+ games in back to back seasons within a four year time period. That can’t happen with a bad organization and/or no help. Lebron left because despite the aforementioned he still hadn’t won anything and it was his 7th year. So he left to stack the deck feeling ‘behind schedule’.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
@@eastgate6134 I wouldn't use the word weak either but it's definitely a move unbecoming of a player that #1 or #2 in the league. Whatever he accomplished from that move can't be compared to MJ, Bird, Magic, or Kobe
@bettyboytv3798
4 ай бұрын
The nba erased the concept of competition
@brucew3050
4 ай бұрын
I’m calling BS.. European league copied the 90s ball. He’s tryna blame euro but the nba made the league soft to prevent injuries. He’s blaming euro players but the euro players say the nba is easier to score on the euro leagues. Gil is a paid actor
@CurtisT1019
Ай бұрын
Facts, I heard Luka say it.
@KANYETHEGIANT228
6 ай бұрын
Why is the longevity argument such a big selling point for Clutch Media and his online lovers? They are comparing his career to other legends that actually went to college after high-school, giving Bron atleast a 3 to 4 year advantage. Make it make sense, 🤷🏿♂️
@CurtisT1019
Ай бұрын
It’s all LeBron and his fans have.
@criticalthought4910
Ай бұрын
Because pinkfolk and Jordan Brand Media are fixated over a Sports Agency. MJ's online "lovers" and other assorted weirdos who favor that terminology are fanboys obsessed with male heroes. So yeah, LeBron did all these great things without the advantage of College seasoning and the advatages that come with Colleg play.
@jameskennedy4602
6 ай бұрын
In the 80 and 90 Stephen Curry would have caught so many elbows and clothes lines he would be retired. Like 2016 when the refs let the Cavs whoop his @ss he was so tired and beat down.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
That's a fact
@OGXIV
6 ай бұрын
The the 90s curry would be a sg and how did ai make it without a bow ???
@momo4044
4 ай бұрын
@@OGXIVA.I. was tough and he had heart facts✔️
@cycleoflife565
2 ай бұрын
@@momo4044Any minimally athletic slight 6-2 guard that can lead the league in scoring, be the focus of his opponents’ defense is tough enough. There were multiple guards in previous eras that were similar in height and weight to Curry that thrived. Folks want to stereotype Curry as soft because he’s light skinned and yet the guy has 4 titles against defense focused on making the game difficult for him.
@bobbyp9815
27 күн бұрын
@@cycleoflife565 Kyree gave Steph that work Everytime they played. Matthew Delevadova was pushing him around like a rag doll until he ran out of gas.
@twilitezn
3 ай бұрын
I saw some dude in the comments say that if you're not gonna count Lebron's Superteam wins then you can't count Wilt's "two" 🤨🙄, or the 2008 Celtics...What??? First and foremost, know your facts : - Wilt's 1967 Sixers squad was NOT a Superteam - By the time the Lakers finally won in '72, Baylor had retired - and he only averaged 10 ppg the previous year - Wilt 35and had torn his patellar tendon in '70; he wasn't the same, and West was 33...Gail Goodrich was their only All-Star in the middle of his Prime. - The 2008 Celtics Big 3 is the only one you can compare, yet even they were on the back ends of their primes....The Heatles had each played 7 years and all were under 30 when they formed.
@CJ-vh2hf
6 ай бұрын
Gilbert Anna is a clown, he said European players don't go to college that's why they didn't learn defense, they start playing professionally in their early teenage years, most of the USA players aren't going to college and the AAU circuit definitely doesn't promote fundamentals or defense. They're more about showing out. How ironic Gilbert is talking about people going to college , "his IQ test came back negative" 😅
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
I think it went over your head
@V12BenzAMG
6 ай бұрын
Theres a youtube vid by a guy who split screened a wizards MJ game and Lebron game and old MJ was constantly moving, hustling, offense and defense...the modern game side of the screen they just stood there...usually walked back on defense or just stopped at the 3pt line and stood there waiting..and when they drove to the basket "defenders" just moved out of the way and let them score 🙄 go check it out..old wizards MJ even in thet time was more competitive/exciting to watch
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
oh yeah, i think I saw that. I wanted to react to it. Thanks
@Jaslath
Ай бұрын
You're talking about Angry Old Hoops fan.
@lamontewilliams203
5 ай бұрын
The one caller was a pure Jordan Hater. Jordan had game and I see no one in the league with Jordan’s type of athleticism. Not a single one. Stop it bro.
@Mandownsports
5 ай бұрын
I agree
@joeselsbury543
2 ай бұрын
Lmao he said "there are too many Jordans in the league today" 🤣 if that were true than the league would be ALOT more exciting to watch.
@romeod7549
28 күн бұрын
@@joeselsbury543For real tho
@kenjisoranaka2449
6 ай бұрын
Lebum doesn’t play defense either! He should be kicked out too!😂
@shayj5124
6 ай бұрын
He was out late watching his son play last night. Let’s see if he calls in sick for tonight’s game 😌
@zenithzeitgeist7489
6 ай бұрын
Viewership is down compared to defensive era though, so Silver rules have failed.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
I agree with that for sure
@GetchyaMindRightLB
5 ай бұрын
there was zero truth to the Jordan not being as good later. Before he needed surgery: -Wizards were near last place...MJ brought them to 3 games under 2nd place. -His STATS AND EFFICIENCY were better than Kobe's, AI's, TMac, and others all in their primes. -While both he AND Rip were healthy together, the Wizards were NUMBER ONE on defense. I can go on and on. HIS STATS were better, his STATS MATTERED, his effect to the team was BETTER.
@leechrec
6 ай бұрын
Back then, the past greats just held their tongue not really wanting to offend anybody. But deep down, they knew it was a weak ass move.
@criticalthought4910
Ай бұрын
Sounds like past greats are gutless cowards who bit their tongues when Moses joined the Sixers
@CJ-vh2hf
6 ай бұрын
Adam silver #1 reason not European players No handchecking Freedom of movement rule Position less basketball Which led to no true, big man or powerful forwards Overusage of the three-point shot which open the lanes, and no defense resistance near the hoop Uncomplicated offense, and no defensive strategy (example most teams play accidental basketball meaning they don't even know where they are on the floor they just penetrating kick out for the three) Leniency of refereeing, Also, the referees, thinking that they're the stars of the game
@eastgate6134
6 ай бұрын
NBA did this so the yt boys can play. If the game remained physical they wouldn't be able to compete
@CJ-vh2hf
6 ай бұрын
I'm telling you, anything Gilbert Arenas says should come with the warning sticker! Over 30 seconds of listening to this guy speaking can cause brain damage 🧠⚠️
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the warning is legit
@theformatpodcast1847
6 ай бұрын
Jason McIntyre is HORRENDOUS. I can't STAND his basketball takes. Notice EVERY TIME he talks about LeBron, he has to deliberately take a shot at MJ?
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Lol 🤣
@kedrianhardy7857
20 күн бұрын
" Would let the Honky Tonk Man beat Stone Cold? " One of the greatest sports questions of all time..... lol
@Mandownsports
20 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jasonnguyen9410
6 ай бұрын
Full Friday Panel, Great squad to have on these topics! Keep it up y'all!
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@sonyacouey7641
4 ай бұрын
Lebron James and the Cavs/Miami Heat didn't need a bag to send Jeff Teague and the Indiana Pacers on a Playoff Vacation.
@cordairotucker6005
6 ай бұрын
People forget Bogut got injured in that finals too so Warriors really didn’t have a rim protector after that after losing Draymond that one game. My opinion if Kevin Love and Kai wasn’t missing that 2015 finals Cleveland would’ve beat the Warriors even though I was going for the Warriors. Also I know they say Boston started the so called super team but Ray and KG was traded to team they didn’t join the team as free agents and I don’t think they was in their prime prime they was still good at their ages in my opinion. Salute to y’all fellas love the show
@pabloivanreyes7963
4 ай бұрын
The first time I remember hearing about a “Big Three” was in reference to Bird, McHale & Parrish” back in the 80s.
@williamharris8089
18 күн бұрын
It's not MJ fault. It's the fans' fault because they witnessed 3 decades of great basketball on so many levels. There were so many great teams and players in that 30-year time span. They gave people excellent performances, and we saw what was unfolding and didn't like it.
@MAJESTIC-ODDBALL
6 ай бұрын
My Top 5 2G: 1. Jordan 2. Kobe 3. Wade 4 A.I. 5. Is a toss up between...The Logo, Pistol Pete, & IceMan. Honorable Mentions go to: V.C. T-Mac, Harden, Joe Cool, Miller, Clyde Drex, Kwai, P.G., and David Thompson. I know that's a bit extra, but just wanted to give those guys their props as well. Also where do y'all place Jamal Crawford...is he more of a PG or 2G?
@ducatister3674
6 ай бұрын
Jordan came into the first season out of shape due to broken ribs in the off season. The first part of the season he was getting into shape. In the twenty games prior to his knee injury he was averaging 27, 6, and 6. In the ten games prior to injury he was averaging 29, 6, 6. His average was up to 25ppg overall and he was being considered to be an all star. He played an additional 12 games on an injured knee which brought his average down to 22ppg. The next year he played on a bad knee, after surgery and averaged 20ppg when the league was only averaging about 100ppg. If he didn't get hurt he was actually getting back to close to his previous output.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Good stuff
@frankiefernandez9225
5 күн бұрын
When a Great player calls other Great players to play with him and form a superteam and is 4 outta 10 in the finals that is So Sad.
@KiddAlways
6 ай бұрын
everyone forgets that LeBum when got destroyed by the Mavs in 2011 he said something along the lines of he's still lebron and goes home while you are still you. pretty much saying he is rich and we're not. my first Air Jordan was in 1994 and since then i can say proudly never ever owned a lebron. to me the GOAT debate is well not even a debate.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
I remember that! That's crazy
@DE4D_Pool
24 күн бұрын
The bulls made the playoffs without MJ and won 50+ games. 2002 Cavs 17 wins, 2011 Cavs 19 wins, 2018 Lakers 35 wins and 2015 Heat 37 wins
@michaelbrown3067
6 ай бұрын
If Lebron wouldn’t have RAN to Miami and formed that superteam I think that 2012 OKC team win that chip.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
I agree
@martinfernandes812
6 ай бұрын
Agreed and KD wouldn’t have made that move to Golden state either if lebron didn’t make that move to Miami. Kd just took the blue prints and made it better. Lebron had to team up with Wade and bosh to beat kobe which Dwade admitted. When kd and the warriors did it gave lebron the taste of his own medicine 😂
It's the NBA/Klutch Sports Basketball Association. Lol.
@5SK.RoyaltyTV
6 ай бұрын
In order to score 40,000 pts. A player must be on those LeBron super human captain America roids.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@IVOT618
6 ай бұрын
I believe if the NBA continues to play by the same rules then someone else will be able to score 40K. LeBron has only scored 2K points 11 times in his career and he made it to 40k with his highest in a season being 2,478.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
@@IVOT618 very possible
@mickomicko1234
4 ай бұрын
36:39 that sounds about nature boyish 😂
@Mandownsports
4 ай бұрын
I'm having a hard time holding these gators down
@mickomicko1234
4 ай бұрын
@@Mandownsports nature boy the cult leader 🤣
@realrecognizereal6027
Ай бұрын
This new NBA style of play need their own Hall of Fame, this should not be compared or considered true basketball 🤔
@Mandownsports
Ай бұрын
That's a very good idea 💡
@sonnynguyen9103
6 ай бұрын
is there a Goat in any sports who has more final losses than wins?
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Nope
@derekjones57257
6 ай бұрын
Detroit played dirty I'm 54yrs old i watched how they played i didn't mind the toughness but Detroit was dirty
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
True
@killerman9309
3 ай бұрын
Aaaaaaaa that fashion roast was everything 😂A Mel you killed me with the jai tore the acl on the college campus with them janko jeans and the Mary j blige Durango boots on and the trump bought fubu 😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭 Ctfu allllll man 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Mandownsports
3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@killerman9309
3 ай бұрын
@@Mandownsportsneeded that laugh bro thanks
@Mandownsports
3 ай бұрын
@@killerman9309 glad you got a good laugh from it
@killerman9309
3 ай бұрын
@@Mandownsportsyeah I’m in here doing some school work looking at game 2 previews got side tracked looked up YALL panel was on I just let it play panel was good y’all make a good team
@Mandownsports
3 ай бұрын
@@killerman9309 thanks
@ajjones5504
6 ай бұрын
Uhhhhhhhh Jaylen Brown DID NOT GO TO PEBBLEBROOK HIGH SCHOOL !!! If you REALLY follow him, you would know that he attended Wheeler High in Marietta,Ga. CMON MAN !!!
@The_Protagonist
6 ай бұрын
I got Mike, Kobe and 3/4 is Wade - AI or vice versa. They are 3a and 3b for me so I’m not mad if someone puts one in front of the other on those two. And I’d put Ray, Vince or Tmac over harden. I got harden 8th on 2 guard. Hardens lack of defense just doesn’t allow him to be in the top tier. There is 2 sides of the ball.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Facts!
@HopeandPeace4
2 ай бұрын
🔓Great Show
@ancientwarriors67
3 ай бұрын
That dude who called in at 49:00 is A1, I didn't know he knew about you guys 😊 and that he watches man down sports, he makes KZitem videos as well that's how I recognized his voice 😊👍🏾
@MAJESTIC-ODDBALL
6 ай бұрын
On a whole nother note...y'all boys stay with the jokes...too funny yo!!! 🤣😂🤣 On the slick though I would like to cop me a pair of Diadora's lol
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
I never had any of those!
@MAJESTIC-ODDBALL
6 ай бұрын
Lol, they were popping for a minute yo
@archieleonard4299
6 ай бұрын
Don’t forget when Mike played baseball that’s almost a year around sport that’s a hell of a break.
@brucewallagainsttheodds1740
3 ай бұрын
At the end of the day NBA is a business & the bottom line (money) for most business owners will take priority over everything. A lot of times Business Corrupts!!!
@shayj5124
6 ай бұрын
I missed the live. It’s NCAA season and we were out watching games. Saw LeBum watching his son play against AZ and the game was a throw away for AZ. March Madness is my joint and I hope you cover it.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
We will
@The_Protagonist
6 ай бұрын
On Teague comment on Wade vs Harden, I can’t get behind how “unstoppable” or how “great a scorer” someone is in a time where the league has morphed to give the offensive players such a huge advantage with rules, the era, the value on the 3, etc etc. and then someone who doesn’t play defensive in comparison to someone who did. No way I can put harden in front of Wade. But regardless. The scoring today isn’t as impressive when the other side night in and night out not giving maximum effort to at least make it difficult.
@Nazarethrice
6 ай бұрын
So glad to hear that someone else knew the Kings were robbed last year
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Kings were robbed big time
@Nazarethrice
6 ай бұрын
@@Mandownsports The NBA wanted a Lakers Warriors match up, because they felt it would get more views because of the history, but let the best team win, period
@danyailharris9417
23 күн бұрын
Btw, this ain’t the NBA I grew up on 🤷🏽♂️
@williamharris8089
18 күн бұрын
Boycott, this watered-down league, send the NBA a message.
@bigshaluke
2 ай бұрын
2011 was also D-Wade's NBA Finals MVP until James said he'll be damned if he's going to be Robin to Batman, so he quit after he jacked up the lead in Game 2 (stat-hunting) which led to them losing that game (watch it again).
@raymondwhite2089
14 күн бұрын
A lot of ppl are Not watching the game I hate basketball without defend and LeBron
@calfrye5343
Ай бұрын
if Reggie Miller was a 1 ally was a 1 in his prime he was definitely a number 2!
@Quick1023
4 ай бұрын
Micheal Finley
@anthonyw895
Күн бұрын
The NBA is so pretty now that the rest of the world will catch up if they don't change
@Mandownsports
Күн бұрын
That's true
@MPratt-zq4ek
Ай бұрын
Just wanna say . Defense is profitable. You couldn’t tell us Detroit Pistons that. We held our hats on defense. With sell out crowds. From the Bad Boys to the Go to Work Pistons. We were like a well oiled machine. I really dislike the small ball game. Detroit Basketball!!!
@GetchyaMindRightLB
5 ай бұрын
that old man who called in was off on soooo many levels. yall gave him too much respect just because he had an old sounding voice. i woulda had to correct him.
@Mandownsports
5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@shoedini7487
Ай бұрын
People downplay Bron Stats like anyone could of got them. Longevity is a Goat worthy Stat. Bron was better than MJ and Kobe at his age of 39. Age 39, Bron still the focal point of the Olympic Team! That's because Bron is good! When Bron lose a playoff series is because the other team was better.
@Mandownsports
Ай бұрын
Longevity is not a goat worthy stat
@williamharris8089
18 күн бұрын
Gil is a very jealous person. He has more excuses because he has to. Gil was an underachiever. His career could have been better, Gil was an excellent player, but ultimately, Agent Zero have to lash out because of his lack of his NBA accolades.
@CJ-vh2hf
6 ай бұрын
Changes in dribbling rules, such as allowing more freedom in handling the ball, have contributed to offensive advancements. 🚶♂️ Traveling violations have become less strict, with players having more leeway in their movements without being penalized. 📜 Interpretations of fouls, especially regarding initiating contact, have shifted to favor offensive players, leading to more free throws. 🔄 Screen setting has become more lenient, allowing for tactics that would have been considered illegal in the past. 🏀 Despite improvements in strategy and skill development, changes in rules and officiating significantly impact the game's dynamics.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
All good points!
@HopeandPeace4
2 ай бұрын
I typed before I seen what you showed in frame 1:40:35/ Go head Mel/ That's what's up. Please do more chart showing because a lot of Lebron podcast fans show charts and cherry pick and show what they want to highlight for their case for Lebron. This is where I get most of my info and do my research from: Basketball Reference as well.
@RamonDiaz-lz2oi
5 ай бұрын
What they need to do is bring back the check hands rules before David Stern start flipping in the casket ⚰️
@Mandownsports
5 ай бұрын
I agree
@rdogletree4543
Ай бұрын
They're saying it's not profitable but look at the ratings? I definitely think changes need to be made and real basketball fans will love and appreciate defense.
@Mandownsports
Ай бұрын
I know I will
@michaelellis4178
6 ай бұрын
Another thing that we overlook when Lebron went to Miami is that Lebron Cavaliers team was already running the eastern division
@brucewallagainsttheodds1740
3 ай бұрын
It was a great take though even though he took a while to sum it up 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@jayrock4696
6 ай бұрын
LeBron is not fundamentally sound. He never learned to play professional basketball. ❤
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Interesting
@jayrock4696
6 ай бұрын
@@Mandownsports when you're in your comfort zone all the time, your strength becomes your weakness.
@thekingsplacegospeldjc4847
4 ай бұрын
😮🤫🤔
@brettdavidson3866
5 ай бұрын
I never had a problem with lebron leaving Jordan and Kobe thought of leaving Jordan retired twice
@Skunz
6 ай бұрын
Money ball be in his daddy’s sack when MJ played
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@lonniebaines1720
22 күн бұрын
Count the Finals Record and be done with the Stupid........😢
@RamonDiaz-lz2oi
5 ай бұрын
Exactly Europe play like the 90 and this is why they having difficulty in the Olympics because they are forgetting how to play with people on you or grabbing you when you shooting the ball
@Mandownsports
5 ай бұрын
I agree 100%
@jacobpierce2880
6 ай бұрын
6 Ft and Under league would have alot of focus on game play. Not just overbearing size.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@ikecot3
6 ай бұрын
The MJ vs LeBron debate should never have happened the league has been nurturing Brons overrated azz ever since he left Miami with the in season tournament the play in tournament the all star draft the bubble chip the suspension of Draymond Green all this to enhance LeFraud's legacy this is who MJ is the GOAT he did it right Michael Jordan is the Barometer for which all players past and present are judged.
@leechrec
6 ай бұрын
Media outlets needed to make up that debate to get viewers. Bunch of fks.
@lebowenman1
6 ай бұрын
Gilbert got some good points.
@sonyacouey7641
3 ай бұрын
You can't bring yourself to respect Lebron James because you couldnt come close to beating The Cleveland Cavaliers. It's not Lebron's fault that your sorry team was eliminated from playoff contention because of your less than stellar play. Jeff you should have lost all respect for your teammates and yourself, for being stuck in "GONE FISHIN' MODE" year after year.😅
@Fmjworld
Ай бұрын
They was doing flagrant fouls, How can that be jordan's fault, Go really watch how they tackled him, Every game more than 5 times
@denilerobinson7299
3 ай бұрын
Y’all talking about lack of Defense and giving Lebum Credit for 40,000??? The NBA Stinks now and Lebum benefited from the decline. The fans suffered and continue to
@royrodgerwashington8433
3 ай бұрын
I think SGA would still make it
@33sugee
6 ай бұрын
FIBA rules have always been different than NBA rules. The reason we lost our international dominance was because Americans don't play 5 man basketball or fundamentally sound basketball. The older American players had an easier time because they played team ball and fundamentals and could adjust to international rules. Has next to nothing to do with the NBAs style of play
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Very true
@koraanjamar
5 ай бұрын
Just to revisit some of the topics covered: NBA defense has one gotten worse since the 2016-17 Warriors team which average 115.9ppg - that would place them 11th in 2023-24 with Indiana leading the league at 123.1ppg. None of these teams have more fire power than that Dubs team. Even this year's Warriors are averaging MORE POINTS PER GAME. There is no more defense in the NBA!
@theformatpodcast1847
6 ай бұрын
Love the SG discussion. Harden is SEVERLY OVERRATED. But Rice, Vince, McGrady, PG13, all those cats are SFs correct?
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
It's very hard to tell with those guys because they played both positions interchangeably like Duncan played Center and Power forward
@theformatpodcast1847
6 ай бұрын
@@Mandownsports I don't recollect PG, RICE, or Vince ever playing SG. Maybe in wrong. 🤷🏾♂️
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
@@theformatpodcast1847 none of them played PG but they all played SG and SF
@HopeandPeace4
2 ай бұрын
To Me: If Lebron had More than 1 super and an All-Star player on his team other than Himself and other player, that take away his comparison to Jordan. especially to be compared to the Bulls 1st 3 championship. And adding rodman was still not a super team collaboration, Jordan & Pippen was drafted on the same team and developed on that team, they weren't already developed so that do not count and Rodman a Superstar like you said, he did not lead a team. When it comes to Lebron's longevity: That some fans do not consider: Is how he was able to sustain the longevity from the human standpoint. #1. Lebron have 4 years extra head start (like you should Mel) because he came straight out of Highschool, and the Average NBA Player went to college 4 to 3 years, so they played 10 to 15 years, so there goes their 13 to 19 years in the League. #2. Lebron playing 21 years: Is not impressive because how it came: I always say how the accomplishments were obtained matters the most to me. (3) of Lebron years was only 80+ games, and (5) of them were late 70's games and whopping (11) years was much lower, so he had a lot of rest, which helped his accuracy, efficiency, and consistency on the court. If you add up the games Lebron did not play it adds up to almost to 3 season or 3 years. #3. The Balco Allegation: with endurance steroids which give you aid endurance or longevity. Although no one dug into it but: It came during his time in LA., so this helped him to be sustain at least 2 of those years 4years in LA. #4. The Longevity would be impressive if a player either: Goes to college than playing mostly or all 80+ games for 10 to 15 years. not including injuries. or no college and player mostly 80+ games. These are advantage that Lebron has which is not impressive, fair nor even comparison when comparing Jordan & Lebron: Just like the example you used on Lebron using a Helicopter to get to the top of 3 different Mountain instead of climbing the same mountain 6 times like Jordan did.
@katrinafisher7820
3 ай бұрын
An UNCONTESTED three is not impressive in PROFESSIONAL basketball.
@Mandownsports
3 ай бұрын
I agree
@mainetain15
5 ай бұрын
The legacy of LeBron will be protected 4ever when Adam Silver changes the season games down to about 65 to 70 games total. It will happen either right before LeBron retire or within few seasons of him retiring. They will use these stars missing games as an excuse.
@Mandownsports
5 ай бұрын
Yikes
@mainetain15
5 ай бұрын
@@Mandownsports I see it coming Bro Fr lol it's been set in motion for years.
@GetchyaMindRightLB
5 ай бұрын
cant keep fallin back on "its not profitable. how is it not when viewership was HIGHER BACK THEN than it is NOW?
@Mandownsports
5 ай бұрын
No one said it wasn't profitable
@Jaygotmotionong
3 ай бұрын
Lebron has played a COMBINED 70,000 minutes [Regular Season, Playoffs, and Olympics] So comparing Lebron's minutes to Jordan or anyone else minutes Lebron is still going with 70,000+ combined minutes when others were retired or washed up and never got to Lebron's total combined minutes. This analysis of Lebron playing 55 or 60 game seasons is irrelevant when Lebron has played the MOST COMBINED MINUTES ALL TIME.
@michaelbrown3067
6 ай бұрын
Playoff James harden averages like 15 in critical games
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
That's true, he be disappearing
@yoshimitsusan7348
4 ай бұрын
That movie you was talking about was idiocracy 2006
@Mandownsports
4 ай бұрын
There it is!
@shoedini7487
Ай бұрын
Man Down don't show. everything He didn't show videos of Jeff Teague giving his props. Bron the beat player he played against. Bron wascroo damn good. We say he hate because most of his videos are negative against Bron! That's when you know you are Goat Worthy when you have a lot of detractors! You ain't shit if you don't have a lot of Haters. MJ the same way because it's a lot of Haters come at him too. MJ and Bron is the 2 best ever!
@Mandownsports
Ай бұрын
@@shoedini7487 man if yall don't stop coming in here trying to protect Lebron from being critiqued
@contiq9
6 ай бұрын
Hey, Man Down, I really hope that you’re still checking these comments. I really wish I could catch you live, but my schedule just don’t allow it. Your show is dope. Check this out. I really hate sports right now. It's all fixed, but to that Jaylen Brown point, dude had a good argument. I never thought about it before but I think he's right. You just said earlier that the NBA don't play defense anymore. That's at least 5 more field goal points per game for Brown if he's the number one guy. Because of the way they call the games, double teams and tough defenses gets him to the line maybe 6-10 more times a game. He's a bad 64% free throw shooter but even if he was 50%, that's at least 3 more points from the line which is ultimately 8 more points a game. That’s 30 right there. By that logic, he would probably average 31 or 32 ppg.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
I don't doubt he could get the points but will the team be successful while he is doing so? Thanks for the comments bro
@contiq9
6 ай бұрын
@Mandownsports no problem, but with a decent big man, a good costar, 2 good shooters, and a decent bench, maybe. I like that Jimmy Butler comparison, too. If you replace Jimmy butler with Jaylen Brown on that heat team, I don't know. Maybe.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
@@contiq9 yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's a good fit for him if he ever left Boston
@Nazarethrice
6 ай бұрын
The Europeans and foreign players are more physical than the American players. Jokic, Sabonis, Gianni's, Embid and quite a few others. They say it's easier to to score in the NBA. The league changed the rules to try and make the game more entertaining, because ratings were and still are down
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
I agree 100%
@samoso6979
6 ай бұрын
Giannis and embid aren’t European lol.
@Nazarethrice
6 ай бұрын
@@samoso6979 read again. I said European AND FOREIGN PLAYERS, my man. However Giannis is definitely European, born and raised. I'm sure you know that Greece is part of Europe. No one would be called the Greek Freak for any other reason. I suggest you reread what I stated. Thanks for trying to make sure I was on point, but I'm on point bro
@eastgate6134
6 ай бұрын
@@NazarethriceGiannis is only European via paperwork
@Nazarethrice
6 ай бұрын
@@eastgate6134I think you're confusing nationality with race my brother. Yes he's black, but European by nationality.
@ericedwards6692
4 ай бұрын
It started with the spurs Duncan,Parker& Ginobli are not from the US,but basic fundamentals,Parker & Ginobli was euro stepping at will
@laglynng9591
6 ай бұрын
Adam Silver admitted that to the physicality of the league in the 80's and 90's to bring forth a more flowing true astecic basketball game as opposed to the bully ball, not in response to creating a safer space for the foreign players... let's not spew false dialogue and scenarios... but good shit!
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Of course he would never say that
@j-us-t_be-in-g
2 ай бұрын
Jaylen Brown is very skilled. Y'all are crazy for y'all take. Brown can average 30 ppg without Tatum. And he does have a left. Y'all keep regurgitating that "left hand" take. However, I watched him dribble with the left and score with the left many times. If you don't have a left hand, it wouldn't be easy to dribble nor score with it. Trust me...I hooped. I had to really develop left hand in order to be comfortable with it within games. Y'all not watching as closely as y'all think.
@polofunk
6 ай бұрын
Lebron Steroids James aka LeBalco James 😂
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Lol
@MrSource35
6 ай бұрын
Dominique Wilkins at 5 over Harden
@mrblkluvamn
6 ай бұрын
make some sense fellas it took the formation of the dream team to establish US dominance of world basketball
@ryanagbayani6786
6 ай бұрын
I always tell people to watch that movie if you want to see where society is heading "idiocracy" is the title of the movie where the main character was a dumb individual got frozen in time woke up 200 years later, and became the smartest man alive. The governtment relied on him to fix a food crisis because they couldn't grow any food in the future because they where us8ng Gatorade,instead of water to grow plants.
@Mandownsports
6 ай бұрын
Yep, that's the movie! I see that happening for the NBA right now
@whateveryousaybro
6 ай бұрын
I literally asked a Bron fanatic yesterday if their Brawndo had electrolytes 😂. They never responded
@nickgleeson7168
29 күн бұрын
Cant respect how lebum jumps from team to team blames others nothing good comes with him
@dezmym1
6 ай бұрын
If tmac wins just 1 ring I'd give him number 3 but he didn't so I dont
@havok5538
4 ай бұрын
Harden wasnt by himself except maybe 2015 CP3 allowed Harden to see Conf. finals in '18 Harden was a Reg season Killer He's never been a Playoff performer.
@TheRaginghalfasian
2 ай бұрын
Don Nelson was running west coast offense like the 49ers back with run TMC, so I don’t think the league is catering to Europeans.
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