I usually just go hunting in the forest with a bar of soap in a sock.
@olivedinuss8564
3 жыл бұрын
Now that's the cleanest way of hunting
@gayfucker123
3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@juancj692
3 жыл бұрын
I go with some flowers and a box of chocolate
@mistaweaves9141
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@vicationgaming1634
3 жыл бұрын
Theres no better weapon then the prison mace!
@creamofthecrop6743
5 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer missiles. There’s no proof the bear even existed.
@candykanefpv98
4 жыл бұрын
Darkness Incarnate very good for the environment too! Fertilizing the forest.
@dangeejr
4 жыл бұрын
😭
@TheShadowofDormin
4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about creating a bullet with wings that doesn't spin and maybe it can even be programmed to fly around so you can bend the bullet like in Wanted. Also then a bullet and an arrow won't fall at the same speed and you could maybe shoot even longer and more accurate. I would like it to be all mechanical though with no electronics
@danielsmith225
4 жыл бұрын
Darkness Incarnate technically, spears thrown and arrows shot are missiles.
@dangeejr
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheShadowofDormin Please do. Then I could say: " HEY I REMEMBER WHEN THAT GUY WROTE IN A COMMENT SECTION OF A KZitem VIDEO, THAT HE WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT, AND HE DID!!!!" Wouldn't that be cool? 🤔🤷🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️
@fernandohernandez7573
3 жыл бұрын
The humbleness of this guy is incredible. Being a mathematician, he let JR explain basic physics to him without chopping him down😂
@geevagyok
3 жыл бұрын
Joe is not explaining to him, but the audience.
@geevagyok
3 жыл бұрын
@Kevin C Thank you Mr. Grammar Nazi
@Rfyjuf
2 жыл бұрын
And he got it wrong. The drop is time based not distance based
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
2 жыл бұрын
BOW IS NOT AS GOOD AS RIFLE EVER! SO JOE SHOULD BE AGAINST ALL BOW HUNTING BUT HIS BIASE IS OK WITH THAT SO HE DOESNT MIND IT!
@heathdetweilerRealtor
2 жыл бұрын
Right! 😂😂😂
@alphah876
3 жыл бұрын
I feel it’s more ethical to hunt with a Speer because the animal has a higher chance of winning
@upperjohn117aka
3 жыл бұрын
Ehhh your also throwing something you can miss and that ends up being alot of pain for the animal instead of it just being over and done with
@devins4081
3 жыл бұрын
Causing more pain for a animal brother at the end of the day it just ain’t right if your the one provoking the animal. If you want to hunt a bear with a spear or a fuckin lion hey by all means it’s a fair fight for both parties. Even if you hit them in the leg . Your still fighting for your life as much as they are. That’s the point we’re getting across
@zay_filmz2310
3 жыл бұрын
I agree bro 100% an animal would much rather get hurt then die... a spear levels the playing field.
@bigmoe9856
3 жыл бұрын
@@upperjohn117aka He said Ethical, not Practical. And even that is based on goals. You just want to nail a creature 30 or so yards away with ease-pick the gun. You want a bit of challenge-pick the spear.
@bigmoe9856
3 жыл бұрын
@@devins4081 looking at some of the spears being used, the ends that are going in are hardly bigger than arrows. You're not causing more pain, you're just using a tool that's easier to see work in progress. Hit any animal in the leg with bullet or spear head, it will suffer. Hit either in the chest and they go down fairly fast.
@john2432
4 жыл бұрын
See I prefer using ancient Neolithic dark magic, that way the meat doesn’t lose its taste and I can experience the memories of every single one of the animal’s ancestors while I’m eating it
@BlooCollaGal
4 жыл бұрын
You cause a stampede so all the mammoths run off a cliff?
@hassenalwaely6215
4 жыл бұрын
Nigga magic
@Jackdiddly1
4 жыл бұрын
Damn you saw scar kill mufasa
@ered203
4 жыл бұрын
That is complete BS. Everyone knows that death magic that leaves no taste afterward requires unicorn hair. What about the unicorn hair? Where are you getting the unicorn hair, Fred? mumblemumblecomingonyoutubeandtalkingshitbutaintgotnounicornhairmubmlemumble.
@ered203
4 жыл бұрын
@@snowcow1173 You got some to share with a brother or are you just braggin?
@yvespolsbroek4930
4 жыл бұрын
"killing bears is a necessity" So it's a *bear necessity*
@fpast4577
4 жыл бұрын
Extra Angry 😐 really it’s funny but it’s bad😃
@brianporter5822
4 жыл бұрын
I hate that i thought of jungle book
@stevekain4707
4 жыл бұрын
that's the name of a convenient store at my college
@TheSimonboyle
4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙌🤣
@Dameino11
4 жыл бұрын
A simple one
@kiltrofilms
3 жыл бұрын
Tons of animals celebrate their kills, just look at orcas playing with wounded sea lions, cats playing with badly hurt mice... and of course there is chimps. Personally i think its good that some people keep primal technology and hunting methods alive as cultural heritage of mankind. Archeologist usually struggle finding out about our past life simply because we cant always find people doing things "the old fashioned way" nowadays. And to a certain extent i think its worrysome how humans nowadays depend on tons of technology that we dont know how to produce. We are consumers of technology, not creators, yet we act like we are better than people from primitive times.
@Dav624
2 ай бұрын
Actually even primitive humans weren't really creators in the Sense that they just used and recycled nature in order to to thrive they didnt really "create" Anything they just turned stone into tool and wood into Weapon
@Hunterslife315
17 күн бұрын
Amen my friend.
@georgefloydspaceshuttlepro1839
3 жыл бұрын
Worried about ethical food procurement when 99% of meat is raised in concrete stockyards
@Nerdperior
3 жыл бұрын
youre right. the people who have this argument are the same people who buy meat from the stores in the most unethical conditions. Maybe before having this conversation people should quit buying store meat all together and only eat hunted meat
@b.h4651
3 жыл бұрын
And they are killed with a hammer or a nut shot from an air gun or they are trapped with their head caught and then their throat is cut so they bleed out with no chance to escape. Wild animals at least have a chance.
@jordancarroll8553
2 жыл бұрын
So true
@benardman2665
2 жыл бұрын
Thing bad. So I not bad. *chimp noises*
@RashaKahn
5 жыл бұрын
Spear? You're not a real man unless you kill a bear with your bare hands.
@APEX-qv7rm
5 жыл бұрын
I can kill a bear with my dick
@dnmangle117
5 жыл бұрын
@@APEX-qv7rm i tea bagged a bear to death at the age of 8
@jzc5555
5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry how do I get bare hands before I kill the bear? Ba dum tssss
@elysahatestostudy9364
5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Mother Russia my friend
@sriviere03
5 жыл бұрын
what about the og who strangled a cougar to death the other week. I must meet em.
@sanniyasin
3 жыл бұрын
Joe trying to explain the physics of projectile to a mathematician who write papers in theoretical physics
@richphipps826
3 жыл бұрын
Right I'm dying
@rickwilson5611
3 жыл бұрын
this dosen't mean anything my first course in university was a economics course and the very first class the teacher showed us some profit theory thing and applied it to farming stating that a cow that eats 86kg of grain per day would be the most profitable. I grew up on a farm and walked out of the class, the cow would be dead from bloat after 30kg
@SouperSaiyan96
3 жыл бұрын
@@rickwilson5611 It actually means a lot. Your example was just different and weird lol
@rickwilson5611
3 жыл бұрын
@@SouperSaiyan96 my point was often times professors and really intelligent people have little experience in real life. Obviously Joe rogan has much more experience in hunting. And probably actually understand much more about projectiles than the theoretical physicist
@lachyt5247
3 жыл бұрын
@@rickwilson5611 The fact that you couldn't understand that introductory courses omit boundary conditions and domain restrictions says more about you than it does academia. Yeah, maybe a first year classical mechanics course doesn't take into account resistance and aerodynamics in a projectile motion equation, because the students aren't equipped to deal with partial differential equations, R3 vector fields and Navier-Stokes parameters. That doesn't mean the tool for calculation or theoretical understanding is worthless.
@Madjiul
2 жыл бұрын
The Australian Aboriginal people would use a “woomera” which is used as an extension of the arm to generate more leverage to throw the spear further. With practice some people get really accurate and connect from up to 35 metres away. Also spears are extremely effective for catching crabs and bottom dwelling fish in shallow knee height water.
@romanmay2867
Жыл бұрын
yes these are used all over the world in the stone age at least for us in america we call it an atlatl
@j-rocd9507
5 ай бұрын
Like a atlatl? Sp not sure
@anchorsaway9629
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen a spear hunt where the animal wasn’t recovered. I’ve seen many bow/gun hunts where they never find the animal.
@rurunstenristare8007
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. An animal dies alone with no purpose for the death...yuck
@noahclark565
2 жыл бұрын
A spear might move slower but with so much weight behind it it has some power
@kinzieconrad105
2 жыл бұрын
You just defeated the hunting arguments. Joe just doesn’t get the stocking part. And he need to talk to the world at-ladle club! Yeah it’s a thing.
@TTOS69
2 жыл бұрын
Just because you haven't "seen it" doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I would laugh my ass off at someone that tries to spear something and gets attacked tho haha
@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@lefrash
4 жыл бұрын
I'm scottish, and I go Haggis hunting with a snooker ball in a sock.
@liammay7756
4 жыл бұрын
I have a question... What the fuck?
@udednow
4 жыл бұрын
@@liammay7756 bro he's Haggis Hunting wym?
@markie1990123
4 жыл бұрын
i've had an Aussie lass ask me if Durham gets haggis like they do in Scotland haha
@robertlunt2219
4 жыл бұрын
fraser you heartless animal
@jy2570
4 жыл бұрын
Haggis and tatties :D
@lone_wolf_lifestyle
4 жыл бұрын
"No species celebrates a kill" My cat sure as hell has a great time bringing me dead mice.. she drops them at my feet and I tell her I'm proud off her
@cleba76
4 жыл бұрын
Its not a celebration, actually. Your cat is giving you gifts. They're gross, but cherish them. :)
@matthewsavageau3650
4 жыл бұрын
and actually other animals murder each other too, not for food all the time. for land, for females, and yes, some even do it just to kill.
@Rico-hb1rz
4 жыл бұрын
cleba76 giving a gift is an act of celebration...
@wmeador611
4 жыл бұрын
Wrong and wrong. Its not gifts or a pleasure thing. Your cat brings you small mice because thats their form of rent payment. They are protector animals and thats their way of paying for the roof and food you provide them
@pistolmoth4198
4 жыл бұрын
My mom's had a cat that would kill frogs, eat half, then leave her the rest. She was horrified every time but that cat was very proud of himself.
@skylersmith9465
2 жыл бұрын
Spear hunting to me is pretty ethical. From what videos I saw, the spears have like a 1 to 3 inch blade. And they go through the entire animal. Compared to an arrow which does the same just more versatile, and gives more opportunities. The achievement is what people go for when they use a spear, it's hard to achieve. So I don't see why that's its wrong, since it's just bow hunting.
@LegacyFlash15
Жыл бұрын
Lot better chance to miss since you’re relying on a lot more human mechanics. If you don’t kill the animal and you’re making it suffer then it becomes unethical. Bows are a lot more accurate and not entirely based on the human.
@tyguy6296
Жыл бұрын
yeah, but the videos we see online are cherry picked. not too many videos out there getting posted of a hog with a spear stuck in it's hip or lung as it freaks out and thrashes. not even career spear hunters want to tune in for much of that... it's not a pretty sight and is actually a very intense display of pain and violence to watch a hog shake a 3 inch wide leafblade out, and it happens a lot. I'm not "against" spear hunting since failure rates are going to exist no matter what method you use... but it certainly is not an ethical choice to use a high failure method while more reliable alternatives exist. it IS a more pure way to hunt though, with almost all mechanical advantages taken out. so one could make the argument that this level of violence is what nature intends (not like a pack of wolves is going to be much kinder). even so, im about as soft hearted as a hunter can claim to be, so I personally stick to what I am most confident in for a clean take.
@tyguy6296
Жыл бұрын
@@Pedro-0839 yeah, I always give the animal a pat and take a moment to think about the fact that I just ended a life. Sometimes I even quietly apologize for cutting it short. Every hunter I know has their own little respect rituals. Honestly if anyone doesn't have at least one weird little thing to connect with the animal, there is a good chance they are probably a psycho lol
@M2Sk8rX
Жыл бұрын
@@tyguy6296 wrong lung shot is a ethical shot lol
@Drxyz-tk6le
Жыл бұрын
@@tyguy6296if you want to go there with what nature intended, then strip your warm clothes, your steel blades, your hunting jackets, your binoculars, your shoes, your hat, your water bottle, throw away your phone Wear a coarse piece of hide around your waist, search for water,... And then go and hunt with spear. This bow hunting and spear hunting or even gun hunting is just a way for hollow people to feel good about themselves for accomplishing some real goal. It's no better than winning a video game. Nothing more nothing less. Infact gamers are a notch higher than hunters.
@peterpontzer4006
2 жыл бұрын
When I was 18 I bought my first rifle, the owner of the gun shop was this man who had hunted everything from deer in the PA woods, to lions on the savannah. The last I talked to him he had told me his next hunt he was going to strap raw meat to himself and walk through the woods with a limit on food, water, and ammunition. Years later I completely understand what he meant, regular hunting becomes too easy with a rifle. Anyone can shoot a deer. But fighting off a pack of wolves or coyotes puts you where you belong on the food chain.. the bottom... And makes you respect just how easy we have it.
@brianvsworld3032
2 жыл бұрын
He fell In love with the game
@peterpontzer4006
Жыл бұрын
@@Pedro-0839 No he’s fine, he closed down his shop for a bit due to water damage but he’s back open now. :)
@spiritualnvndo6247
Жыл бұрын
Badass, thanks for sharing
@stopdeletingmyaccount125
Жыл бұрын
Oh I belong on top of the food chain I just like to keep proving it
@GlorifiedGremlin
Жыл бұрын
We're the exact opposite of the bottom. We're the top of the food chain. Being an apex predator doesn't mean you have 0 threats to your life. Don't self deprecate the human race lol a rifle is all that's necessary to catapult us to apex
@thomaschristopherwhite9043
3 жыл бұрын
"Is spear hunting ethical" Me living in a 3rd world country: Are you hungry?
@maxmustermann7794
3 жыл бұрын
Guess why in the stone ages the average age was 25. Right, because they starved to death you well educated human being. Guess why. RIGHT, because they had spears. Guess why they didn't starve in the middle ages? RIGHT.. bows, traps, more knowledge about hunting, better technology. By the way guns are a thing in the 3rd world. Who or what made you think that everyone in Africa hunts with spears because you sure must know a lot. Go educate yourself :D
@thomaschristopherwhite9043
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxmustermann7794 How you autistically wrote this 3 paragraph essay that has nothing to do with what I wrote is the most hilarious piece of literary brain fart I've ever seen in my life.
@maxmustermann7794
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 It's not that I want you to believe me. I'm telling you, that you are wrong. I know that, I think that's enough. :D Greets from Germany and I think we can leave it at that
@thomaschristopherwhite9043
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxmustermann7794 I'm wrong? About what? HAhaha This is gonna be fun.
@maxmustermann7794
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Give me one good reason to explain or teach you anything about what I said in my comment. Go ahead big boy.
@michaeldiebold8847
4 жыл бұрын
I hunt by duel wielding hammers.
@smeltofelderberriesnou9016
4 жыл бұрын
So you teach them how to use a hammer first, or do you just toss them one and then start going ham on them?..
@michaeldiebold8847
4 жыл бұрын
@@smeltofelderberriesnou9016 whereas I do throw a hammer on occasion, none have thought to pick it up and fight back. Stupid squirrels.
@jerryjiron3584
4 жыл бұрын
Dude you are the coolest dude to have ever lived dude, in the history of dudes dude
@michaeldiebold8847
4 жыл бұрын
@@jerryjiron3584 its truth, bruh. You are the second coolest dude. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
@ericpermenter4155
4 жыл бұрын
Out of all the " I hunt by" comments, this one got the biggest laughe out of me.
@zandemen
3 жыл бұрын
Bow hunting is not only about the challenge or thrill, it is also about opportunity. most areas have a bow only season, so you get an early chance at an animal before rifle season opens up and it gets more competitive.
@jzjzjzj
3 жыл бұрын
and about the challenge
@reluctanthalo7154
2 жыл бұрын
And thrill
@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883
2 жыл бұрын
its also about the beer cans and the celebratory barbecue.
@sattamassagana3348
Жыл бұрын
Lol seasons
@BowHunter87
Жыл бұрын
Bow hunting is more fun.
@laurenceharper2037
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Joe understands how debilitating a spear in your chest is.
@Gavin-vb6oq
4 жыл бұрын
Me personally, I use kill animals by acting like I’m their friend then later breaking their heart so bad they die
@springroll4421
4 жыл бұрын
Gavin 2 if you’re gonna be unethical go hard or go home. I bully animals until they kill themselves for me.
@FitFatFern
4 жыл бұрын
Mitch Pinder Nature would have given them harder feelings if they were meant to survive bullying
@mrahmed8033
4 жыл бұрын
So like an undercover cop, but with animals?
@vegetorat
4 жыл бұрын
Gotta get close to really hurt.
@michaeldiebold8847
4 жыл бұрын
Power move, bro
@ssandus1153
4 жыл бұрын
I usually talk the boar into killing itself
@JoseLopez-mt4oy
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@onlypain1005
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh 😂😂😂😭😭
@scottysatpanalysis
3 жыл бұрын
Better than the boat talking me into killing myself lmao
@reality6951
3 жыл бұрын
“life is meaningless anyway” “no one will miss you” “the universe will explode someday”
@blyatimusmaximus6936
3 жыл бұрын
Underated
@MCBob-nh4cr
11 ай бұрын
Tim wells is a good example, he hunts with spears, but he also shoots the heads off of the fastest flying birds with a bow and arrow mid flight. He even kills grizzly bears with blow guns. He is a very skilled hunter. His son shot the wings off a dragon fly with a bow and arrow mid flight as well, beautifully skilled family. I know they do it for meat and because they are skilled enough to do so, it’s even more exciting when you know you’re able to effectively. I personally hunt deer with a .22lr. I shoot for the back of the neck at the spinal cord for every shot, 99% of the time is an instant death, worse case I have to finish one off with one follow up shot but the deer stay where you hit them opposed to running a bit from a lung shot. I’m too fucking lazy to chase deer down.
@danielanderson4777
10 ай бұрын
The slockmaster
@skullium5920
2 жыл бұрын
My brother did spear hunting because he wanted to know what it was like for primitive humans when they hunted and after he killed the deer, he use all the meat and the skin it was honestly really educational
@draugur345
5 жыл бұрын
"No species celebrates a kill" Well first you have the issue of how many species could even feel or express something like glee or celebration, but even then Killer Whales certainly take pleasure in their kills. So do cats.
@jonahsmith5096
4 жыл бұрын
Dogs too
@RR-qf9re
4 жыл бұрын
Wow how did all of you become experts on animal language and animal emotion??? Where do they teach that class???
@drakeswake
4 жыл бұрын
Robert Regalado we don’t need to be experts to understand emotion and physical interaction. Most hunters (if mot all of them) rejoice at the completion of a difficult task, an unsure endeavor, knowing that once the animal is down you now have food, memories and more. Try hunting for once. It’s very rewarding and satisfying whether or not you kill an animal.
@RR-qf9re
4 жыл бұрын
NoNoNoNii google does animal translation now???
@brenninoliphant
4 жыл бұрын
@@RR-qf9re yup, they forgot morons use google so they added it just for you.
@Dylanbolton69
4 жыл бұрын
Spears are for sissy’s, real men wrestle giraffes to the ground with their bare hands
@FieryCoal
3 жыл бұрын
Good lad, we all know giraffesdontexist and are government drones. Know the truth, spread the truth.
@rntdarealist7934
3 жыл бұрын
A real nigga like me would’ve ate the giraffes ass
@davidclark9619
3 жыл бұрын
Go for the knees!
@mgrlukasprochazka
3 жыл бұрын
Acutally more "homo sapiens" approach would be to chase the giraffe until it falls down and then slice it's neck. The "superiority" of humans to other animals is that they are not the fastest but they have a lot of stamina and sweating. So real man chase animals till the prey falls down from exhaustion.
@rntdarealist7934
3 жыл бұрын
@@mgrlukasprochazka OK NERD
@sk8ter409
3 жыл бұрын
spear hunter here, it's a pretty great way to hunt when you're good at it. ive dropped alot of whitetails with it. lots of fast bloodloss & the deer never get more than 10yards. it's a very fast harvest.
@sk8ter409
3 жыл бұрын
@@wilddog73 both. you sound bitter & angry at me for hunting in the first place tho lol
@raizek055
2 жыл бұрын
I know you haven’t probably cared about this is forever but I feel you are a reasonable person, for me it’s more of why do something like spear hunting that puts the animal in a huge amount of pain before it dies when you could just kill it instantly with a gun? Unless adrenaline kills pain that fast then sure but yea it’s just that part that itches me.
@sk8ter409
2 жыл бұрын
@@raizek055 guns rarely offer an instant death for game animals. headshots are not always available & being off by a small margin will cause far, far more suffering than an arrow or a spear. for example a small branch causing the bullet to alter hitspots can lead to the bullet taking off its jaw. or hitting the nose or top of the head away from the brain. Lungshots with rifles also takes much longer for large game animals too pass. With a 300winmag lung shot on a mule deer. the deer can still live up to 1 Hour after the intial shot. It also ran over 100 yards until it needed to bed down & hide. I use a leaf bladed spear & an atlatl. The mule buck last year was dead within 5mins & the amount of blood loss caused unconsciousness within a 20 yard run. In my first hand experience. Modern Spears are perfectly ethical with training. I enjoy all forms of hunting & have been doing it yearly over 20 years now.
@raizek055
2 жыл бұрын
I see, what about heart shots then? With a gun I mean. Also I always thought they used used boar spears for that, guess i was wrong.
@raizek055
2 жыл бұрын
@@sk8ter409 Also I’m general from the videos I’ve seen, the animals always throw themselves about with a huge amount of panic and fear while most gun hunts I’ve seen they drop on the spot, for example I’ve seen coyotes drop on the spot with a sniper rifle and such but I guess it involves more the size of the game right?
@mattclark8535
3 жыл бұрын
He makes bow hunting sound as if it is military training. Patience and practice is all you need. It isn’t easy, but it is a very rewarding practice. It is also very enjoyable because of the up close interaction with the animals. Small kids can do it, it isn’t that difficult.
@chasecalvert6227
Жыл бұрын
True but I think he’s talking about stalking an elk or a moose. He doesn’t regularly deer hunt I don’t think. But even bow hunting deer can be extremely difficult
@NoName-fo7mz
Жыл бұрын
Joe thinks bow hunting, like everything, is martial arts. He’s dumb. He’s just a low IQ stoner Californian. And Eric Weinstein is a really smart guy but a humongous pussy.
@picollojr9009
Жыл бұрын
Slings... In the right hands they are deadly
@goldentrunnell7450
10 ай бұрын
@@picollojr9009I'd be more impressed with your comment if your name was Goliath. 😉
@worldgonemad5866
3 жыл бұрын
You should have Tim Wells on to have a real conversation about this.
@mattclark8535
3 жыл бұрын
That would answer all these questions
@worldgonemad5866
3 жыл бұрын
@StrengthPathTürkiye , those cold steel spears sure cost a fortune...
@Oldwhiteguy
3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@Oldwhiteguy
3 жыл бұрын
worldgonemad $100. Is a fortune?
@worldgonemad5866
3 жыл бұрын
@@Oldwhiteguy , I was being sarcastic.
@Joshua-kr5fq
4 жыл бұрын
I hunt tigers with my yugioh cards I send em to the shadow realm
@kakerake6018
3 жыл бұрын
Ha I like to sacrifice a few cards to summon, BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON! I end my turn.
@randommexican5664
3 жыл бұрын
You're a third rate duelist with a fourth rate deck!
@qwertyasd4842
2 жыл бұрын
@PA Outdoorsman bokoya?
@thefriar8883
3 жыл бұрын
I always thought spear hunting is more ethical if you actually know what you’re doing. Gives the animal a fair chance to fight back. Thats just my 2c
@dalecanning467
3 жыл бұрын
Spear hunting is no less ethical than any other legal form of harvesting as long as the kill is very likely going to occur quickly. Like bowhunting, for spear hunting you have to get really close to the quarry. Though Joe mentions 100 yards for a bow shot, your average ethical hunter wouldn't attempt a bow shot outside 40 yards. It's much too technique-sensitive and subject to environmental variables. Spear hunters are danger close to ensure success, usually coming down from above the animal. If it blows their hair back a bit more as they fill up their freezer (or that at the local soup kitchen), who cares? Joe's a hunter, so I'm kind of surprised at his take on the practice.
@rurunstenristare8007
2 жыл бұрын
I am surprised as well. Let’s all raise our hands honestly now, how many of you have had to track an animal after hitting it with a shot, (round, bullet, arrow, dart)? Or did your prey just fall to the ground immediately dead? Unrealistic result comparison...
@Alvah707
Жыл бұрын
you didnt listen to 8:35 then. you just ignored that before posting your comment
@apokatastasian2831
5 жыл бұрын
Squashing mosquitos is unethical, I personally only use straight walled cartridges larger than .357
@theMAKAproject
5 жыл бұрын
That seems like overkill for mosquitoes.
@harminderjitgill571
5 жыл бұрын
😂
@apokatastasian2831
5 жыл бұрын
Hey cockroaches have milk too, if you're comfortable murdering them with your bare hands, clearly i'm just better than you. Cockroaches require at least a 12 gauge slug. Everybody knows they can live without a head for 7 days, and thus superior ethics require total vaporization. I inhale sharply afterward so I can use the whole animal.
@apokatastasian2831
5 жыл бұрын
If you have a minimum wage mexican do it for you, then its his bad not yours, so .89$/lb tyson chicken is all good....ethical all day baby
@BoqPrecision
5 жыл бұрын
Literally made a similar joke when I was 8 or 9 years old...
@ConstanceWhenever
3 жыл бұрын
Lol, Joe is explaining high school physics to a physicist.
@Hagser
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@skubasteveskilla3316
2 жыл бұрын
-🤓
@Alvah707
Жыл бұрын
hes explaining it to the audience not him
@M2Sk8rX
Жыл бұрын
And the funny part is he is wrong you can look up the bullet drop on most rifle calibers in a 100 yards is damn near zero lmao he is either high as fuck or uneducated
@younggrasshopper2859
3 жыл бұрын
11:27 This guy needs to own a cat in a farm house lol
@jz1528
2 жыл бұрын
Never seen a spear hunt fail, I’ve seen a lot of lost arrows or shots that just didn’t do the trick. Spear hunting, you tend to be the most skilled, usually. Ask any amateur hunter out there, he’s going for the gun, bow second, and spear is the last. That spear guy isn’t letting the animal get away, the kill will always come back with you. Not always with the bow or the gun.
@monke6912
2 жыл бұрын
when people say spear is bad weapon or simmilar, all i hear is skill issue
@JacobG303
5 жыл бұрын
Joe "will support spear hunting the second one of his hunter friends does it" Rogan
@APEX-qv7rm
5 жыл бұрын
Yup !
@muddrunner413
5 жыл бұрын
For sure. Iv heard him do that with several different subjects. Wait til his friend kills a giraffe with a spear an then you will hear " either way it is killing it" "either way its being eaten" " hunting is hunting" " or a big story " one time I had a friend that did it and he enjoyed it an did it right" theres no more brutality or rage in doing it by a spear then a rifle" ..... Hes always got a friend that does or did whatever he is talking about. Even that one story about his friend that murdered someone. Bla bla bla.
@hannesproductions4302
5 жыл бұрын
Jacob G “A buddy of mine...”
@flystraight7994
5 жыл бұрын
You totally didn't watch the video. If you did, then you totally are English ignorant.
@Rahavin1
5 жыл бұрын
@@flystraight7994 Wait... He's ignorant of the English language, or the English people? Or did you mean English as an adjective and describe him as being as Ignorant as an English person? Please clarify. Perhaps work with word order and placing the verb before the noun to make your sentence more precise.
@overclucker
5 жыл бұрын
Joe "When you get to spears, you're in a weird place" Rogan
@orc001
5 жыл бұрын
As I hear it
@Anglisc1682
5 жыл бұрын
Same here, I heard it as I read this wtffff
@johnclark1925
2 жыл бұрын
This ethics argument is completely unrelated to the type of weapon used. One can make an ethical kill with a sniper rifle at 500 m on the other side of a valley, or make an ethical kill with a spear at 15 m, or one can make an ethical kill using a catapult at 5m. Ethics is not about the spear as a hunting tool. It is about the skill and ability of the hunter with their chosen weapon.
@chad522
3 жыл бұрын
"Man, I hate anything that isn't accurate. These bows? You have to be sometimes 30 yards away Thats way too close. There are guys with high powered rifles that can hit a plate at 2 kilometers away, every single time. You always have to ask yourself if you are using a bow, why? Is it the thrill of the hunt?" See Joe? That argument you made about spears translates to your bow as well. Just make sure they eat what they kill, and they kill what they wound. Other than that, doesn't matter.
@ledlg1676
5 жыл бұрын
dude if you kill a bear with a spear, i gotta respect you
@user-ii3kn8zz1k
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think all these 'celeb hunters' are killing bears, more like quails and shit
@torgospizza8626
5 жыл бұрын
Just go all out and close the gap with a sword. It's a death wish, but a ballsy one.
@MrReggaeRainbow
5 жыл бұрын
Respect? Most of spear hunters linger in the tree when they hunt bears, I'm not saying it‘s unethical but that's the most pussiest way of 'hunting'.
@skyedge3407
5 жыл бұрын
Aside from a trap spear is the easiest way to kill a bear. Just stick the other end into some rocks and let the bear charge you. It will fall on the spear and kill itself.
@niallcameron6433
5 жыл бұрын
Sure mate. Sounds heaps easy. @@skyedge3407
@Hunter_Brandon2
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know of any species that celebrates a kill... In related news: Cats, do they exist? More at 11
@homelessrobot
3 жыл бұрын
any predatory animal at all, do they exist? no, apparently not. Its all rabbits with pepper spray accidentally killing hunters or something.
@royalteluis623
3 жыл бұрын
If a animal starts roaring or scraping there kill that means there celebrating
@mikep8071
3 жыл бұрын
Dolphins and Killer Whales have been both observed hunting purely for 'sport' or 'fun.'
@ThePhillyDz
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikep8071 and playing with thier food
@homelessrobot
3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Johnson You could frame it in a million different ways but there is not quantitative difference to measure here. There is this thing called killing that gets done, there is this thing called celebration that gets done. We can recognize the first sort of behavior happening after the second sort of behavior in many places other than humans. The most importantly conspicuous element here is that we are the only animals that give a shit. Whether that is because of some man-privilege that we should be ashamed of, or its by some god given righteous claim over the universe, or its just a happy accident. Who knows. I am not going to go around kicking myself in the dick though because people have shallow unimaginative ideas about why everyone other then themselves is to blame for bad feelings they have.
@Lyl_Gamescook
2 жыл бұрын
Spear hunting is extremely fun. Spears are also surprisingly easier to throw with a little bit of practice. Spear hunting is not about proving to people that you're better, it's about the thrill of spear hunting. There is also an atlatl (aka spear thrower). They allow the person to throw the spear twice the distance, and impact. You do have to be slightly crazy to love spear hunting.
@audenharper3014
Жыл бұрын
i literally seen a video of a pack of hyenas killing an antelope while it was trying to give birth, ripping the fowl out the vag midway out and eating it while the mother is being attacked by other hyenas. Spears aren't that bad.
@rubenroyer9488
3 жыл бұрын
It's all about getting close to the wild animal. That's the thrill.
@genghiskhalabeeb1906
3 жыл бұрын
To that point work on your cardio and feta Bowie knife
@quellenathanar
5 жыл бұрын
Why hunt with a bow instead of a rifle? The most realistic answer is because it's probably bow season.
@newyardleysinclair9960
4 жыл бұрын
@Jesse Pinkman run out of bullets? What kind of hunter runs out of bullets? " ayePaw, I dun run out of shot, think er could fetch me sum?"
@onib5255
4 жыл бұрын
Must be a nice rock, what model you sportin?
@lucho1limte
4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisrogers4242 You sound like a terrible dumb american hunter
@robertbrandelius2145
4 жыл бұрын
When using a bow or crossbow, it simportant to note that its quite, so It does not really scare away nearby animals as much and accurate.
@alexanderson5140
4 жыл бұрын
@@wojciechd6765 Arrow's are affordable depending on the brand and there's no background check when you get one.
@cwells.pottery
5 жыл бұрын
Is he trying to explain gravity to a theoretical physicist?
@Sevmarick
5 жыл бұрын
Cody i was thinking the same thing
@mitchellapple9184
5 жыл бұрын
He’s explaining for the audience, I’m shocked the physicist didn’t tell him he was wrong, because he was. Aerodynamics effect the decent rate. Ever throw a frisbee?
@craigmorris559
5 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellapple9184 just spears apparently...
@chillyourtits9273
5 жыл бұрын
@Trev1183 yeah he got an A in physics
@Esmittyfasho
5 жыл бұрын
He’s a mathematician
@TONKA-1993
3 жыл бұрын
I think you should have Tim Wells on the podcast he's the guy behind relentless pursuit and he's a rather good bow hunter from what I've seen, he has spear and blowgun hunted alot of species, he even killed a bear with a blow gun I think it would be a really good discussion and he could highlight the pros and cons of spear hunting, just a thought
@jacksongraydon2503
2 жыл бұрын
I think the idea behind primitive hunting is that the journey is the reward. Why go for a hike when you could just drive there? Because the challenge and enjoyment of hiking is the reason behind hiking, not just getting to the destination.
@dutchvanderlinde3256
5 жыл бұрын
Here's the difference; I can make a spear easier that I can make a bow, and I can't afford a rifle.
@MrThemanofspeed
5 жыл бұрын
Dylan Mitcham technically that Dutch is a more recent version of him
@Brian-er7py
5 жыл бұрын
But can you fight gravity?
@DutchVanDerLinde197
5 жыл бұрын
Who tf do you think you are
@DutchVanDerLinde197
5 жыл бұрын
I’m the real dutch
@jacobkeary6740
5 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah
@nathanielbetteridge4978
5 жыл бұрын
Spears kill faster than arrows due to more rapid bloodloss. Hunting within your effective range is ethical, all hunters regardless of equipment should be aware of their limits
@thatoldserpent851
5 жыл бұрын
100%
@sebastiansaxon
5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Claptonisgod33
5 жыл бұрын
@@thatoldserpent851 most people can't throw a spear at the speed of a modern compound bow. And you can 100% hit the vitles more reliably with a bow, the margin for error is higher.
@Jason_g_kennedy
5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit, guess you never bow hunt.
@robkphoto5530
5 жыл бұрын
Modern bows are so powerful that the arrow will just go through the animal and get stuck in the ground behind it..... That's not a good thing. Any extra force beyond it penetrating the organs is unnecessary and what happens when you increase the speed is you get a cleaner cut... Which isn't necessarily making more damage. If a spear can go half-way through an animal (And I've seen it go all the way through a bear) it will do much more damage because it's just larger. You need skill for both bow and spear hunting, but if you get it to stick properly a spear is far far more effective just by the virtue that it is HEAVIER and BIGGER = Bigger wound and more force transferred.
@johnnelson2462
3 жыл бұрын
“...yeah..if you get to swears... you’re in a weird place” 😂😂😂😂
@jordanwilliams7631
3 жыл бұрын
The harder the weapon means the better your growth is in your skill, most weapons share the same or have similar skill sets
@cwstewartjr1973
5 жыл бұрын
Joe "I'm the most ethical hunter" Rogan
@metro9636
5 жыл бұрын
JR is such a poser. This douchebag hunts with "celebrity" hunters and thinks he's the Almighty hunter..such a tool.
@Dusijejdjjd
5 жыл бұрын
@Stefan Kovacevic the point he's making is that with the bow you can still argue it's ethical, with a spear the argument doesn't exist.... this isn't an all or none game you can draw a line where you feel comfortable...
@Dusijejdjjd
5 жыл бұрын
@@metro9636 lmao yeah he's a celebrity why the fuck wouldn't he? the guy from meat eater taught him to hunt with a bow in the first place... you're clearly just salty because you got torn an ethical asshole 😂
@tophatbandit580
5 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more likes. Joe "my bias is showing" rogan
@leighpopham456
5 жыл бұрын
@@metro9636 but can still out hunt you any day so he gets some credit,,more then you'll ever get
@lachlanoneil8938
5 жыл бұрын
Doing it to fish is fine, and I'm pretty sure humans killed animals with Spears since forever
@johndee2990
5 жыл бұрын
Inuit still use Spear because Extreme Cold Cracks bows and Guns are Expensive (not to mention the bring in Predators who learned the smell of Gunpowder means a fresh kill)
@Kratatch
5 жыл бұрын
Yea but that is the ethical discussion. Personaly i am against all hunting but i dont hate people who do. I am indifferent i just dont see the need for it in todays society.
@johndee2990
5 жыл бұрын
@JustinBieber You mad JB
@mmrtommyg01
5 жыл бұрын
@@Kratatch because we buy meat that's pumped with antibiotics and painkillers from farms that literally disregard ethicality to mass produce meat. Tell me what's more ethical, killing maybe a deer or two a year to feed your family or buying meat from a supermarket where the generations of livestock we're confined and treated like shit?
@Kratatch
5 жыл бұрын
@@mmrtommyg01 Do you need to kill that deer? No. Do you want to? Yes. As they say in the vid, we are too many to make a living out of hunting if everyone would do it.
@Mark-vs9rk
3 жыл бұрын
I usually wait perfectly still and when the bear approaches then I perform the Dim Mak. Sometimes while on DMT
@waynemalford3020
Жыл бұрын
Spears kill faster than arrows. It's all about the skill of the hunter. A shower is basically a huge arrow that opens a huge wound that causes the animal to bleed out very very quickly.
@jackbeehler
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if bears sit around and ask each other if certain ways of mauling humans are ethical or not
@clutchuwu1355
3 жыл бұрын
This deserves more likes😂
@2714shaun
3 жыл бұрын
@Wills Pram Don't forget the salmon
@nuronw6886
3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget DMT
@AV57
3 жыл бұрын
_Brilliant comment._ it never ceases to amaze me how fully grown adult humans in the modern day can try and avoid their moral responsibility by pointing to wild bears (or any other wild predatory nonhuman). If you don’t want to be moral then just say it; don’t hide behind disingenuous arguments about animals that can’t philosophize.
@rntdarealist7934
3 жыл бұрын
AV 57 nigga what?
@tylerhughes5420
5 жыл бұрын
Joe how do you become a skilled hunter without practicing though? Is it unethical until you become a professional.
@AdamSGH
5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Hughes just don’t hunt till you’re good at throwing a spear?
@tylerhughes5420
5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamSGH perhaps... but then I can't imagine any practice scenario that will prepare you for accurately striking a charging 300lb pig.
@clipsedrag13
5 жыл бұрын
Like being a collegiate javelin thrower lol
@KappaKiller108
5 жыл бұрын
@@tylerhughes5420 that's a piss poor argument for hunting 300lbs pig without practicing how to throw
@tylerhughes5420
5 жыл бұрын
@@KappaKiller108 in the video he says people shouldn't hunt with spears until they become good at it... my point is how do you become good at hunting with spears before you ever do it... not that you should try hunting with spears before ever throwing your first spear, but that despite target practice you're not going to be good at it till you do it a few times... It's like reading the kama sutra and beating off then proclaiming you're a pornstar. Or watching bill dance videos casting a zebco 33 a few times in the back yard and then proclaiming your gonna be on bassmasters... i knew that he prolly meant comfortable with a spear but that's not what was said so I made a little joke...
@CrazyTuco1
3 жыл бұрын
Joe should have Tim Wells on if he wants a true expert at primitive weapons and an ethical hunter.
@hunterwagner3002
3 жыл бұрын
Im a rifle hunter mainly but i ubderstand the archery sode it doesnt destroy the meet so much
@RevPerdueJosh
5 жыл бұрын
Considering how our mother nature is 10x crueler, sure. Pelicans scare me.
@APEX-qv7rm
5 жыл бұрын
Politicians are Super Evil They kill millions of people for oil
@CodyABest
5 жыл бұрын
Rev XD
@johndee2990
5 жыл бұрын
@@APEX-qv7rm I think you should've combined your comments "Pelicans are super Evil, They kill Millions of People for despoil
@jacobkeary6740
5 жыл бұрын
Scrotum birds
@johndee2990
5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobkeary6740 Slightly less scary than Roman Scutum Birds
@billykimber4463
5 жыл бұрын
Come on now Joe. The plural of moose is meese.
@Anglisc1682
5 жыл бұрын
XD
@psd.3144
5 жыл бұрын
Its actually meeses.
@AnAmericanMusician
5 жыл бұрын
Moosen.
@kvasir8931
5 жыл бұрын
Mice
@chrisgauthier7027
5 жыл бұрын
Professor Light ah this is so funny
@taylorrico496
2 жыл бұрын
love to see tim wells and joe have a sit down
@StephenAbootman
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Joe is understanding just how much harder it is to kill something with a spear than a bow. Getting hit with an accurate spear throw wouldn't result in any greater suffering to the animal than an accurate bowshot (in fact a spear will cause a far larger wound channel, killing the animal quicker in most cases), and achieving a hit with a spear is at least ten times more difficult than doing so with a bow. He also seems to be ignoring how common it is for bow-shot game to run a half-mile on adrenaline, and often be lost to the hunter. His argument seems to be that hunters ought to only use weapons with the highest probability of success, but is fine with using a modern bow, which he admits is way less efficient than a rifle? Anybody who gets upset at spear hunting isn't thinking through the fact that it is by far the closest to true fair-chase hunting. For every wild animal killed with a spear, the hunter could have probably dropped 25 with a bow. The level of patience and skill necessary to get a spear kill is on another level. Anyone who just wants to be macho would give up after a day.
@cl112688
5 жыл бұрын
well, theres only one thing left to do, you need Tim Wells on your podcast
@guyserenko1354
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@lancejohnson8847
5 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@silentdeath4survival
4 жыл бұрын
Tim would set Joe's idea of spear straight. Even in his videos Tim explains and shows how ethical a spear is, it's very well documented.
@TroyS49
4 жыл бұрын
Joe should most definitely invite Tim Wells onto his podcast!
@paulhurley3612
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly who I thought of Lol... 👍😂
@seanhillebrandt2653
5 жыл бұрын
Tim Wells bow Hunter is a Savage with a spear. Just saying
@muffintop420
4 жыл бұрын
He's probably watching and laughing.
@reddog24playa1
4 жыл бұрын
Yea he’s one out of millions. Hardly a sound argument. And his intro is cringey as fuck.
@Raycurlee23
4 жыл бұрын
Tim Wells is a monster with a blow Gun. And just because he’s good and you suck doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be able to use it. How many people wound deer with a rifle every year. My brother in law wounds 3 a year. Should we not hunt ? No. Only assholes don’t kill what they shoot st
@reddog24playa1
4 жыл бұрын
Raycurlee23 no one is saying that Tim Wells shouldn’t be able. They are saying that the general hunter probably shouldn’t because most people don’t have the skill level of Tim Wells. How is that hard to fucking fathom? Go forwards not backwards. Why the fuck would I regress to Spears and blowguns when I have more effective tools? I’m not a fucking mong so I don’t do that.
@InFamousWolf96
3 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan I respect you but I Disagree with you big Time On your take on People hunting with Spears like Bro Through out Millenia people hunted with spears like a got a spear I'm gonna get my hunting license soon and Go spear Hunting💪💪
@seththomas1119
3 жыл бұрын
I dont ever intend on spearing an animal but if u can do it effectively and without excess suffering and will eat what you kill then it's the hunters right to hunt however his ability allows. As far as trophies and pics, I would do it but many people do it with the things they enjoy doing. If you dont like it then done look. Lastly if for some reason u find it so evil/ atrocious when others share there photos you can choose not to look at them and store it in the same part of your brain that you keep the fact that you know about CCP's (China) slve labor force, concentration camps, and brutal oppression of its people that let's literally think or do anything about.
@inthso362
3 жыл бұрын
OK, this is exactly what the Net is for: I'm not 100% sure, but there are different seasons for bow, rifle, and muzzle loader. I'm assuming you can get a limit in each. Some country folk rely on that to supplement their diet.
@craigkoehler4363
5 жыл бұрын
An arrow is literally a miniature spear that flys.
@anthonyontv1061
5 жыл бұрын
Spears fly too
@willwills3509
5 жыл бұрын
Pizza Zombie flies * Jesus
@coryr9938
5 жыл бұрын
And is practically pin point accurate, and moves at a much quicker speed. An arrow is a lot more humane than a spear, but a bullet is more humane than both.
@washingtonwebfoot9908
5 жыл бұрын
@@coryr9938 A spear has a much larger cutting area...bleeds out faster.
@washingtonwebfoot9908
5 жыл бұрын
@Gabrielk 2024 A spear is plenty accurate inside it's effective range. A bow isn't very accurate out to 600 yards the way a bullet is. And a beginner isn't accurate with a bow either. It's all about skill level. Why throw the spear? Plenty of spear hunters go after feral pigs. You hold on to the spear and stab the pigs...before they rip your guts out with their tusks.
@sniperhunter230
5 жыл бұрын
its not the tool,, its the user and how accurate you are. gun,spear,bow,muzzle loader,, as long as its a ethical quick kill.
@acesand8s849
5 жыл бұрын
Brad That would fall under skill.
@KappaKiller108
5 жыл бұрын
@@acesand8s849 physical aptitude and skill are very different.
@jdenmark1287
4 жыл бұрын
@@KappaKiller108 although they are in a general sense, when you talk about a physical skill, it's inherent.
@brycescott7895
4 жыл бұрын
Present Sort Of “as long as it’s a ethical quick kill” therefore if it was not that he would no longer be with it
@johnmoore1495
4 жыл бұрын
Issue is it’s a lot easier to mess up with a spear, bow, or crossbow over a gun. If you can ethically kill something 99% of the time with a gun then why are we running around like cavemen with a spear where the kill may be 50-50.
@juliangulian1032
3 жыл бұрын
Hunting with a spear hands down is more ethical then hunting with a rifle
@emantavassoli2523
3 жыл бұрын
How so? A lethal shot in the vital organs with a rifle will drop game relatively quickly if not instantly. With a spear, the chances of penetrating a vital organ with a lethal throw or whatever is much lower than a rifle. The aim of hunting is to kill the animal quickly and as painlessly as possible. A spear by nature will put the animal is more pain and agony than a bullet or bolt. How is a spear more ethical if there’s a greater risk of a non lethal strike by a spear? If the animal jets away wounded by a spear strike, that would cause much more pain and suffering for the animal.
@jackharvey9808
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t throw spears I throw Lego bricks.
@paulycoleman98
4 жыл бұрын
Hunt with anything, as long as you eat what you kill.
@edward3320
4 жыл бұрын
Almost any way if hunting is more ethical than eating meat from a supermarket.
@paulycoleman98
4 жыл бұрын
Edward amen to that
@papidad2648
4 жыл бұрын
Well not anything, but other then that, totally agree
@oz-1037
3 жыл бұрын
Gophers only exist for target practice. And then the crows and flies can eat them
@homelessrobot
3 жыл бұрын
or at least feed it to your dog.
@UngoyPrime
4 жыл бұрын
Accuracy is highly dependent on the hunter, no matter how precise a weapon platform is. BTW Lions feared Maasai Warriors not because they had guns.
@Reach1335
4 жыл бұрын
Cause humans can run down anything in that sort of African heat and sun exposure even horses.
@jinxjones1709
4 жыл бұрын
Accuracy is highly dependent on the weapon as well. If I give you a rifle with a smooth barrel you're not going to be very accurate after so many yards just won't be. And a round musket ball is a lot less accurate than the bullet we have now. And if I went and made a bowl out of PVC piping, then I went and got it professionally built handmade professional bow I will guarantee it will be highly more accurate and shoot quite a bit farther distance.
@100GTAGUY
4 жыл бұрын
Jinx Jones I hate to break it to you but there's muskets capable of staying on target out to like 1800 yards that were produced nearly over one hundred and fifty years ago (granted they're not low tech smooth bores). Some of them even used hexagonal rifling as it was more precise than trying to rifle a circular barrel back in those days. Forgotten weapons has some good videos on these particular muzzle loaders if you're interested.
@jinxjones1709
4 жыл бұрын
@@100GTAGUY you're going to try to insult me and then you're going to repeat what other people said are you a little bit slow?
@jinxjones1709
4 жыл бұрын
@@100GTAGUY and if you're not slow what is your problem?
@brandenolivo3893
3 жыл бұрын
You should check out Tim wells spear hunting, also blowdart and bow. He is insane, I think you would like it
@curlylarrymoe
5 жыл бұрын
Accuracy at distance does not equal ethical. If you are accurate at 10yrds with a spear or 20 yards with a recurve bow and you can hit your mark it as good as anything else. Using more primative weapons is not about taking long shots, its about using your hunting skills to get in ethical range for the weapon used. It is alot harder to get 10yrds from your target/prey than 100yrds. That is why people want to use more primative weapons.
@jakegoldberg8941
5 жыл бұрын
curlylarrymoe i think he means subjectively, like if a first time hunter attempts a shot, he might not be as accurate as an experienced marksman. So a marksman would have a more ethical choice if they knew they could accurately hit the spot.
@thanksfernuthin
5 жыл бұрын
He was using "ethical" wrong. He meant effective distance I believe. I've never heard of an ethical distance.
@chunkyMunky329
5 жыл бұрын
@@thanksfernuthin If Joe meant to say effective distance, then he would have corrected himself instead of repeating the word ethical a thousand times.
@thanksfernuthin
5 жыл бұрын
@@chunkyMunky329, in another clip about animals killing their siblings immediately after birth he called female hyenas "women" two or three times. I don't think Joe's brain was on point that day!
@chunkyMunky329
5 жыл бұрын
@@thanksfernuthin That's not the same kind of mistake. Here, Eric is asking him a question specifically about ethics. It is the core subject and therefore it makes a huge difference to the whole conversation for him to accidentally misuse the word ethical in an answer about ethics. It changes the nature of his point of view significantly.
@snmsnm9977
5 жыл бұрын
Joe needs to have the slock master Tim Wells on the podcast.
@shanevanderlinde6669
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Joe needs to be enlightened
@Truthpatriot62Z
5 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting ha
@James-xv8xv
5 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@JoshSmith-vj3yb
5 жыл бұрын
I just left a comment about Tim and hes also one of the best shots with a bow I've ever watched. Probably the one guy I love to watch hunt.
@sebastiansaxon
5 жыл бұрын
Hell fricken yeah. That sounds like an absolutely riveting podcast.
@roc2936
2 жыл бұрын
"Tim Wells" comes to mind when he started talking about spear hunting. Dudes videos are a little hard to watch but he is always using bow, dart or spear weapons when he hunts
@gustavocontreras10
3 жыл бұрын
When Joe says that he is a hypocrite because he himself hunts with a bow I just thought well the reason why he's hunting with a bow is because it's a skill. Archery is a skill that you hone through years of dedicated practice. And to put yourself in the situation and atmosphere of a hunt. To pair those things together is probably the best kind of practice archery can have. Because if you make that shot, its under a variety of different factors that you usually don't have to compensate for when practicing archery.
@herculesbrofister265
2 жыл бұрын
Also he's saying do ppl use spears to show they're better than people with bows. But that same logic would also have to be applied, if you want to be fair and have integrity, to ppl who use bows instead of guns.
@andrewwest7360
4 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with spear hunting...especially with someone as proficient as Tim Wells
@dirtpile
4 жыл бұрын
careful - I upset a bunch of soy boys with a similar statement :)
@nicholaspowroznick4322
4 жыл бұрын
I love tim wells and his videos i wish he would come on the show
@RashaKahn
4 жыл бұрын
@Kuuryo the problem is that the probability of wounding an animal instead of killing it is a magnitude higher with a spear. So imagine how many more wounded animals or rotting because they got away are out there if a lot more people are spear hunting.
@wayneamelie278
4 жыл бұрын
@@RashaKahn You don't know what you're talking about m8. Spears are larger and heavier than arrows. The inertia is greater on a spear and the cutting edge is longer on the spear tip so penetration is maximised and the animal bleeds out quicker than it would with an arrow head.
@RashaKahn
4 жыл бұрын
Amellow and you obviously didn't watch the clip, it's because of how it is inherently (a magnitude higher) harder to hit an animal with it as opposed to a bullet or a bolt. And the argument of practicing with it will make you better is bs, you can say that with using a rock. The point is why cause the animal suffering, so the "hunter" can feel more manly about killing it?
@calgore5
3 жыл бұрын
11:30 What never seen a cat catch something, parade it around your house shouting with glee and playing with the kill before eating it ?
@daver.2871
2 жыл бұрын
Old Joe must be so stoned here. He belabors every minor point so much you can see he is really struggling to keep his mind in the conversation. This dude sure has a sweet gig. I'd love to ever have the chance to be around him and his guests. But I could never get stoned and still carry on a interview like him. Such a boss.
@dakotaboker
3 жыл бұрын
There was a dude I found on KZitem, hunting bears with spears and even used a blow gun. The guy was really skilled and the bears died almost instantly because he was so precise with it. Perfect heart shot every time. If you have that kind of skill it’s definitely ethical. If it is allowed, it should be licensed, and you should have to pass a precision test to get that license.
@jayplay3412
2 жыл бұрын
Probably Tim wells.. look up relentless pursuit that’s his outdoor show.. he duck hunts with a bow no sights .. big time spear & blowgun hunter..
@nikolasnescustomrodssager1269
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@rurunstenristare8007
2 жыл бұрын
Proof is in the pudding. Nature can’t be regulated.
@georgeptolemy7260
Жыл бұрын
@@jayplay3412 Tim Wells is a fucking clown and a horrible person.
@voyager667
Жыл бұрын
If it's perfect heart shot every time, there is a good chance he just doesn't show you imperfect ones
@Jarjarvideos
4 жыл бұрын
This comment section goes from memes, to cancer, and back to memes again so fast it makes my head spin
@johnmoore1495
4 жыл бұрын
Comments normally: “Joe: But have you tried DMT” Comments for this clip: “bRo HaVe YoU sEeN TiM WeLLs?”
@josie4065
4 жыл бұрын
The Slockmaster himself! Joe should watch the video where Tim slocked himself in Africa and then decide how effective spear hunting can be.
@davidboone5798
3 жыл бұрын
Logicly if u think about a spear is a 2 sided blade with a handle. I would think that the energy of a spear weight over speed would have similar engery to a low poundge bow. Plus the weight of shaft with vulcrum after the impact causing a larger cut than the width of blade and vulcrum more after animal runs it through brush.
@joshfranklin1894
Жыл бұрын
Tim Wells needs to school Joe on spear hunting efficacy
@azamat_bagatov69
5 жыл бұрын
Joe "if you get to spears you're in a weird place" rogan
@pearsonproductions3280
5 жыл бұрын
azamat “I steal other people’s comments” bagatov
@gucciserb
5 жыл бұрын
azamat bagatov i love your name
@rye-bread5236
5 жыл бұрын
Lmao says the weird pot head. He's a bit of a hypocrite
@ExposFanDude
5 жыл бұрын
"What are you doing? You trying to prove you are better than people that hunt with a bow and arrow?" Can't someone that hunts with a gun say the same thing about his little bow and arrow kick?
@matthewbrumer5864
5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t of said that any better. Makes no sense.
@TheSilentFool
5 жыл бұрын
He literally brings this up towards the end
@rustyshackleford3263
5 жыл бұрын
Ahh I miss the expos respect from Winnipeg
@shotgunsam23
5 жыл бұрын
Horacio Valdez that is very true.
@thatoneguyricardo
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mattandrews8528
3 жыл бұрын
If you want to use a spear, atlatl, longbow, crossbow, muzzleloader, rifle, it doesn’t matter to me. What matters is being close to nature and connected in a way as a hunter that you care about the animals taking out game consciously and humanely always going for a quick kill making sure the balance of the herd/flock/pack is maintained. What’s important is that nature and the animals we depend on for food stay around for generations to come.
@calebreznicek6096
3 жыл бұрын
Using weapons like swords and bows is to be more elegant and train in fighting. For those that cannot master weapons will die or never want to pick up another tool again
@tito9694
4 жыл бұрын
Joe"Ethically"Rogan
@raymolegacyhunting9954
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like if you are practiced in the art and are passionate about it, then it’s ethical. As long as you can make a quick kill, hit vitals. I don’t see where the problem is.
@erynncollier8672
2 жыл бұрын
Spears also kill quicker than any other method. The animal exsanguinates much faster due to the bigger hole.
@slackbabbath1067
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I think he's being quite closed minded on this.
@therogue9000
2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the appeal to spear hunting is aimed at its prehistoric roots. It's primal, it's how our species got to where it is now.
@milsimmusic1318
Жыл бұрын
For experienced spear hunters primarily found now in tribal cultures you can achieve the same range and accuracy as a bow excluding the same factor that impact the bow. That being said most people in the west excluding javelin athletes are not going put the proper time and practice you'd put into a bow or rifles before actually going on a hunt.
@pm4813
4 жыл бұрын
As a spear hunter, a good hunting spear will drop any animal just as fast as a bow, around 20-30 seconds.
@loganweaver8030
4 жыл бұрын
You can also get really good with a spear, look at Olympic javelin throwers..
@michaelgutierrez1971
2 жыл бұрын
@@loganweaver8030 bad example, they dont throw for accuracy, bUt yes, you can get good with one
@AM-db9mx
5 жыл бұрын
I got like seven Spears in my garage. I've been spearing salmon for almost twenty yrs since I was seventeen.
@johndee2990
5 жыл бұрын
Are you a BC boi too?
@ts1905
4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to "draw the line" at fish. Maybe because they're not mammals so they seem more distant or because the next step after fish would probably be insects... Damn. Mark my words (August, 2019), the next step probably will be bugs if the current cultural trends continue. In all reality you have to set boundaries somewhere, and the next step after insects will be plants, because they're living things to. After consuming plants are a taboo, who knows what will be next?
@enderking244
4 жыл бұрын
@@ts1905 bruh that's something I would think about or say high af low key after plants becomes germs once you get sick you can't take medicine for it becuse you'd be killing some shit lol
@christiangraham4579
4 жыл бұрын
A M I think something that small is different, your almost always going to kill it fast if you hit it. And if not, you have disabled it’s ability to swim away most of the time and can kill it quickly after that.
@myman9566
4 жыл бұрын
Tyrel Schroeter I draw the line at fish because they are smaller, so it’s easier to kill them with one shot. That’s why I’m also not opposed to hunting something like a squirrel with a spear
@daddychan2953
Жыл бұрын
My dad used to be able to stack arrows in the eyeball of his deer target at 100yds
@jameswalters4358
3 жыл бұрын
Have tim wells on your show. Extreme bow angler then transitioned to spear. He is great.
@mikeyforge2386
5 жыл бұрын
Joe "Spears arent ok because I don't use them" Rogan
@MrCurbinator
4 жыл бұрын
Mikey forge yeah i would not be surprised to see Joe do a 180 on this after meeting some guy whose crazy good with a spear
@GitHubStiizz
4 жыл бұрын
MrCurbinator he’s an idiot thinking that if he can’t do it that means no one can.... look at that guy that spears bears in the heart. Kills em quick and painless
@michaeldiebold8847
4 жыл бұрын
I hunt with a weed whacker
@ericheng9790
4 жыл бұрын
I hunt with a custom slingshot with custom made tungsten balls thrown at 900 feet per second
@Chungus581
4 жыл бұрын
Spears definitely kill with way more pain and suffering than a rifle. A skilled rifleman can drop prey much more efficiently than someone skilled with a spear
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