Tai Chi is too dangerous to be used in MMA. Chi blasts can literally decapitate people. Have you never seen dragon ball?
@foxymetroid
7 жыл бұрын
No. It's dangerous because of the ball strikes. It's why you're supposed to wear a cup while sparring.
@Jattmafia313
7 жыл бұрын
foxymetroid oh so tai chi is the art of ball strikes? Sounds gay
@Jayden-zq6fj
7 жыл бұрын
ball stikes were legal in mma once though and there were no tai chi fighters back then either
@carbonbonds3019
7 жыл бұрын
Except in Dragon ball, they practice by sparring hard.
@waaagh3203
7 жыл бұрын
I get it now. Kamehameha and all that? Decapitate people? Couldn't it blow up planets or something?
@RGTomoenage11
5 жыл бұрын
“Okay, tell me when your chi is all centered” lmao
@davepoon2.353
4 жыл бұрын
i lost it at that part
@rudimentaryschizo2799
4 жыл бұрын
"And the guy , you know... does his little thing, and then settles his chi, and says "ok, I'm ready..." "
@mmareviewer.2372
4 жыл бұрын
..Ramsey Dewey..debunk anyone?
@Engreakhai
3 жыл бұрын
I practiced tai chi for 25 years but I still think this comment is funny 😂
@jamescobrien
3 жыл бұрын
It takes 120 years to gain enough chi.
@GodofWarChuka
5 жыл бұрын
I think Tai Chi is like Yoga. Great for stretching, relaxing, etc. Not fighting.
@michaelblack9458
4 жыл бұрын
Tai Chi was originally a grappling style and had punches and kicks Tai Chi literally means ultimate fist
@mpforeverunlimited
4 жыл бұрын
Yoga can be good for fighting though. Kron does it to help with his breathing and flexibility
@MissMusicLover131
4 жыл бұрын
That's what I always felt too, though it mightve been something in the past, the current form as I see it is good to develop movement and flexibility and possibly even awareness of your body - all of which will help you in your study of another martial art or fighting style
@ch33ze0g
4 жыл бұрын
I knocked 3 guys out once using yoga. Swear to god
@bobbyshewan4229
4 жыл бұрын
Austin Batton ok man chill lmao. Btw you got any advice for a guy starting out in wrestling?
@Trebliw8
4 жыл бұрын
MMA guy is just lucky he didn't get hadoukened
@boxersguy6799
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@EatOffTop
3 жыл бұрын
😭
@suhasbanik6961
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...lol
@amittkumar151
3 жыл бұрын
Wtf is that😒😒
@1MinuteFlipDoc
3 жыл бұрын
@@amittkumar151 Ozzy Man!
@christofl6523
5 жыл бұрын
The 80's and 90's (pre UFC days) had the best bullshit martial artists advertising in Black Belt & Inside Kung Fu magazine. Al Colangelo (who could knock out Mike Tyson with 1 punch), James Patrick Lacy (who could break coconuts with his chi), John La Tourette (hit you 18 times in 1 second), George Dillman, along with all the "official trainers of the Navy SEALS and Army Special Forces" guys. Most of these guys quietly disappeared when MMA appeared on the scene.
@dragames
4 жыл бұрын
Which was The Count dude who could kill you with one punch that would rip your organs out? WAs that one of the ones you listed?
@nightman922
4 жыл бұрын
Devil's Advocake that guy posted ads in comic books I think
@justasleepparalysisdemonwi8719
4 жыл бұрын
Primaul oh yeah count Dante
@dragames
4 жыл бұрын
@@justasleepparalysisdemonwi8719 Yeah, that's him. had to google, Juan Raphael Dante. Guess they didn't mention him in the video. Because I remember all my old Marvel comics kept talking about his 'death punch'.
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
It's true that Martial Arts, like everything else, is subject to Sturgeon's Law, but don't forget that MMA in 2022 is a sport with weight classes, rules, protective gear and mats, where the fighters stop every couple minutes to drink water. It was custom designed to make grappling viable, which is why nearly all of the groundfighting happens against the cage. I've been in plenty of fights but never against anyone smaller or weaker so I don't even know what you modern MMA guys are talking about. Gracie can talk about real martial art b/c he fought all comers of any weight with no time limits and as few rules as the commissions would allow. But modern MMA can only talk about sport conducted in safe spaces. With two pounds of steel in my hands I can take most people on the planet, and any fat guy with a 38 special can take me without getting out of their chair. That's reality.
@Diesel257
3 жыл бұрын
If I drink Chai tea before I do Tai Chi brah you can't stop me.
@Xpistos510
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂
@NoradNoxtus
3 жыл бұрын
Chai and tea are thr same thing
@Diesel257
3 жыл бұрын
@@NoradNoxtus Don't be a turd in the punchbowl just show off you know one thing.
@teocollins6035
3 жыл бұрын
@@NoradNoxtus saying "chai" and "chai tea" is the same thing......
@lukaskillian8607
3 жыл бұрын
😭😂😭😂
@MoroccoUnfiltred
4 жыл бұрын
JR : its like a mental illness Robert Downey Jr: I do wing chun JR : its an anderrated martial art. Lmao
@Marveryn
4 жыл бұрын
wing chun was what bruce lee practice but in his days school fought each other as part of training. it was also how he figure out that there was something wrong with it so he started researching including studying boxing
@Roper122
4 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if Joe Rogan is just talking crap... hmmmmm
@silosis
4 жыл бұрын
wing chun has some useful stuff, when joe talks shit on fake martial arts its usually aikido
@artisticskillz01
4 жыл бұрын
@@silosis wrong because he actually talk steven segal and says he's legit and Aikido is Legit too.
@updod88
4 жыл бұрын
@@artisticskillz01 Not true. He said it was bullshit. Good Aikido is bad Judo.
@kwerby3285
7 жыл бұрын
Flat earth was mentioned? Time to read the comments
@agnosticii
7 жыл бұрын
Not The Real Me - The earth actually _is_ pretty flat where I live...
@titanf5196
7 жыл бұрын
Andrew Jackson Because anyone who has a basic high school level knowledge of science (at least in my country. Not too sure about the American education system) know that the earth *CAN NOT* be flat. The keyword being- can not. Not if, not whether, just can not.
@kevooo1250
7 жыл бұрын
Andrew Jackson fucking idiot 😂😂😂
@JourneyToTheCage
6 жыл бұрын
The earth is shaped like a toilet you flat and round earthers are delusional
@drakex241
6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Jackson give us 1 good reason for the government or who ever or whatever it is are trying so hard spending millions if not billions of dollars to hide that flat earth of yours If you give a good and logical answer for that we may actually believe that craziness lol
@ShinoAburame37
7 жыл бұрын
The problem with modern tai chi, is that practitioners don't go through any conditioning whatsoever. Back when internal arts like this were initially created, practitioners honed their bodies with physical training and sparring, allowing the moves that they were taught to be effective. Nowadays, it has devolved massively into an art that elderly people use to remain healthy.
@tylercooper9233
7 жыл бұрын
I think by modern you mean 'your experience,' and by conditioning you mean learning 'application on another person'. (if I am wrong on either of those please correct me) You should look for a different teacher if that is your experience. There is plenty of movement in the Daoist tradition that teaches application of movement and principals with a partner or sparer. Probably if you just do a local google search for push-hands you could find a group or teacher who could show you internal or external application (its very fun, much like playing). You should know that tai chi is just one family of movement in a religion that is actually very much alive an well. You may find more affinity with Bagua-zhang as it is quicker and the martial application is a little bit easier to become acclimated with if you are a beginner to internal movement. Daoism would not seem so degenerated if you went to its home instead of expecting it to come to you, on the other side of the world. I don't think you actually meant or intended any racism or ethnocentrism, even if your comment comes off that way. I would encourage you to take a fresh look, if you feel so inclined to expand your world view.
@pinkman1972
7 жыл бұрын
Tyler Cooper serious? racism and ethnocentrism is what you can read out of BRT's comment? What kind of weired pc-glasses are you looking through Tyler?
@tylercooper9233
7 жыл бұрын
David, thank you, perhaps my word choice was confusing. I intended to say that I don't think that Benkei is ethnocentric or racist. Rather, I was just hoping to encourage a consideration that Daoism is a religion based on subtlety, but something vastly beyond the caricature of old people calisthenics.
@MrFlyingEskimo
7 жыл бұрын
They also only compete tai chi against other tai chi. Same for all the other Asiatic martial arts. That is why they all trash.
@THEANPHROPY
7 жыл бұрын
Not true buddy as someone that practised it for many decades you start conditioning from the first day this includes increasing the density of your bones deliberately so that you can better receive and redirect force as well as muscular conditioning. Your experience is strongly dependent upon what style and with whom you train with. Seek out Shaolin ti chi from a warrior monk!!!
@sprockettickler6463
4 жыл бұрын
I once saw a guy doing Tai Chi in the park. He was minding his own business, just doing the movements with no shoes on, when about a half a dozen of the local kids came up and started harassing him. Taunting him, doing what he was doing but in a mocking way, rubbing and sucking his toes. But he just kept going through the motions, ignoring the yelling as it got louder. Eventually the kids got bored of licking his girthy toes and left, but not before urinated in an empty soda bottle and pouring it on his head while screaming "Subescribe to Pewdiepie! Keemstar did 9/11!" I was struck by the Tai Chi master's calm and poise as he took all of this abuse, never stopping in his technique even while covered in teen urine. In concern, I approached him to see if he was alright, but it was just Onision, happy as could be. Apparently he pays those teens hundreds of dollars every week to do this. I knew then that no other martial art on earth could be as dangerous as Tai Chi.
@boxersguy6799
4 жыл бұрын
“Mind must be master of the body"- that old monk in jonny english reborn
@boxersguy6799
4 жыл бұрын
Ultimate patience, i see
@tonypeterson5316
4 жыл бұрын
Tai Chi isn't even for fighting in the first place! It's for body and mind healing
@reman3000
4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@bubkagoldberg6182
4 жыл бұрын
Tai Chi is an inner martial art. It is about mastering what is inside of you. It may have been an effective fighting style back in China centuries ago but it is not a 21st century combat martial art. It must be respected for what it is.
@numbers7n
3 жыл бұрын
Rogan needs to interview Xu Xiaodong. Just get a translator,... It would get so many views.
@akimbodice6955
3 жыл бұрын
He cannot leave the country. China has barred him from leaving
@alexandero9936
3 жыл бұрын
@@akimbodice6955 he has a YT channel and has actually seen the vid count dankula did on him and responded.
@Steve-eq8iz
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexandero9936 he has to physically send the video files to friends outside of China for them to upload it. The Chinese firewall won't allow him to access KZitem himself. He's not allowed to take trains or plains or buses either
@SnowbordrWRX
7 жыл бұрын
It can't be a flat earth because cats would've knocked off everything by now.
@foolslayer9416
6 жыл бұрын
Very true...
@drunkmike9943
5 жыл бұрын
Umm I don't get it maybe because I fucking hate cats and don't have anything to do with them so I cant relate.
@grayman735
5 жыл бұрын
Lmfao 🤣 so TRUE
@Known-wj6nh
5 жыл бұрын
drunk mike cringe 🤣🤣🤦♀️
@mwolf5895
5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@Void304
4 жыл бұрын
Martial arts, my teacher used to say, is something that's always evolving. He believed that if you're locked into a style that's 300 years old, then you're 300 years behind the times. Everything changes, nothing is etched in stone. You either adapt, or get used to losing. Asia did a great job of getting the basics figured out, but I don't think it's meant to stop there.
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
Your teacher was 100% correct. Schools that did not adjust after 1994 and integrate grappling defense have limited utility in 2022. The serious Tai Chi teachers I know all teach boxing and grappling in addition to pushing. The only distinction is that groundfighting is specialized and is considered suicidal in the streets, which is why the main domain of wrestling is sport and now prizefighting. BJJ will also do very little for you against multiple attackers, and even I've been jumped by more than one guy. Footwork is way more important that groundfighting, unless the fight is in a cage.
@remrem-gx3ml
Жыл бұрын
i agree however I would add that any martial art can be adapted its more a philosphy of combat than a technique thats my belief anyway
@lightup6751
7 ай бұрын
Bruh, Asia invented Martial Arts and is still doing it. Fake masters are like 1% of martial artists in asia
@bigmaculous
6 жыл бұрын
Most real chinese martial arts was destroyed through out the many periods of changes china went through. From philosophy, to medicine, to martial arts, to its architecture and ethics...China hasn't been able to hold onto anything because various tyrannical governments oppressed anything that could possibly challenge their reign. Even Confucius philosophy was persecuted, in part, because it taught loyalty to family above all else, including government. Very sad for a civilization that had so much advanced tech for its day, from writing on paper, to gun powder, to pasta...
@Eggmanrocks
5 жыл бұрын
China rocks
@kingcamelfromthemightyjung2869
5 жыл бұрын
never thought of it that way
@XinYiMartialArt
5 жыл бұрын
bullshit..
@Llucius1
5 жыл бұрын
Yup , martial artist has been widely slaughtered , and actual shaolin temple has been burnt 3 times. Saying Tai Chi doesn't work , is like saying you can't eat food with chopsticks. If no one continue to learn how to use chopsticks , we might thought that must be a weapon of some sort. Just take a look at the weapon variations that ancient chinese created , and no ancient martial fighting arts ? The problem is that people don't understand what they are doing and saying. It's like for a random guy to play out with chemical reaction that doesn't really know what he is doing , then of course either will not work or things will be out of control. Even with any fighting arts that you say is 100% useful nowadays , trying that out without understand will either won't work or you are waiting for injury , it's the same.
@Llucius1
5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact , Muai Tai is a form of ancient Chinese martial arts.
@greglr19751
7 жыл бұрын
that's like a yoga instructor challenging an mma fighter.
@mugendbzgts7150
7 жыл бұрын
I know that tai tea is good
@XxTheMetalistxX
6 жыл бұрын
Nah mate, that's Chai Tea
@ryneagheilim9782
6 жыл бұрын
XxTheMetalistxX xD Chai tea after Tai chi Lmao xD
@nimashahidinia4503
5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@firuBR
4 жыл бұрын
My wife's mother is a taichi master, and def doesn't regard it as a martial art. It is something else completely
@dzieki_6569
3 жыл бұрын
It's still a martial art, but not meant for combat
@indefenceofthetraditionalma
3 жыл бұрын
It is definitely a martial art. Most people practice it purely for exercise these days though
@indefenceofthetraditionalma
3 жыл бұрын
@@dzieki_6569 it was definitely meant for combat. It’s just that most people interested in actually fighting these days practice modern combat sports (for good reason)
@Kevin-McLaughlin
3 жыл бұрын
@@dzieki_6569 Aspects of Tai Chi flow very well with other combat martial arts
@DJEmirMixtapes
2 жыл бұрын
@@dzieki_6569 Of it is meant for combat, I got caught with diagonal flying one time with both feet in the air body folded in half and I remember specifically thinking oh damn that was good... but this is gonna hurt LOL since then I too have used my own version of wild horse parts it's main to take down countless people in sparring as well as other techniques from tai chi as well as other shaolin arts. It is a martial art it just isn't taught as one by many people.
@gmakr2701
7 жыл бұрын
I've worked in a psychiatric health facility for over three years, and although I do have vastly more knowledge about the matter, at the end of the day it feels like the longer I work there the less I know about Human Mental health.
@StronglikeLion3
4 жыл бұрын
Tai ji is supposed to be guard/clinch grappling. Sadly, it has barely survived as such, and people only do form.
@dragames
4 жыл бұрын
@Paul Schramm They do the same in American Tae Kwon Do and Shotokan. They like to teach the 'hammerblock' as a block... and it's not. You can't block shit with it. They even teach "Your hand goes back to your side to get ready for another punch" Ugh... no, the form simulates if you have grabbed their hand and put them in an armbar. Same with the tai chi 'mystical hand waving' wasn't about a 'soft palm strike'. It was a "Hey, I have your foot, now I'mma twist it and flip you over". But nope, nobody knows the applications to these forms anymore.
@sonfoku73
4 жыл бұрын
@Paul Schramm jiu jitsu is not a one-trick pony LMAO. Wouldn't be in MMA if it was. Tai chi isn't even a pony, it's like a frog waiting to be stepped on.
@breaknfiction21
4 жыл бұрын
Devil's Advocake so do you know how to properly apply the forms? You sound like a true master/expert in tai chi. Honestly curious.
@breaknfiction21
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Schramm but in the early days of mma there were almost no rules. People WERE trying to kill you. Even in today’s mma, your opponent is trying to kill you, but there are more rules. Early days of mma proved brazilian jiu jitsu beats all other forms one on one. But the later years showed you need to be well rounded. Because a striker with knowledge on grappling and submission holds/joint locks can avoid takedowns and keep the fight upright. But one of the absolute pillars of fighting is bjj. Are you arguing that tai chi is more effective in a real fight? Curious why you believe that.
@ZhangLee.
4 жыл бұрын
@@breaknfiction21 but mma develop by a han chinese mate
@davidm8135
6 жыл бұрын
Wing Chun and Tai Chi can work. The problem is that they're not being taught properly.
@elumiomerk4013
5 жыл бұрын
You know I though Wing Chun was the only art that had tactile sensitivity and pressure sensing, but I think Tai Chi also has it. Maybe also Kuntao Silat. It seems to me that different Chinese Martial arts learned from each other, do you agree?
@DJEmirMixtapes
2 жыл бұрын
@@elumiomerk4013 Tai Chui Chuan has both regular and Blindfold Tai Chi Push hands training also known as sticky hands that teach how to yield and redirect force similar to wing Chun but even more sensitivity involved unfortunately the Tai Chi Community sometimes teaches this wrong too.
@edwardrichard2561
6 жыл бұрын
I have a uncle who has practised multiple martial arts for 45+ years. Black belt Karate, not sure how high he got in the rest Judo, Jujitsu, Wu shu, many others. In the 70s he would go all over States doing comps. and demos. Tai Chi is what he been doing for 25 years. In his mind it's the best. It's all in who's teaching you. He showed me some things that work well. For instance a head lock with a Eagle claw on the throat. U spin the hand 180 and the Opponents pretty much dead. He took what he thought worked best and combined it to him. But he will say you better learn how to fight on the ground. I wouldn't mess with him. Also he was the the youngest person in Va at that time to get busted with distribution of illegal substance at 12 years old. At 9 he started moving coke from Florida to Va. After his time served he got into martial arts and it saved his life.
@Laviathan50
5 жыл бұрын
The Tai Chi "master" looked like a mummy dressed as a ninja 😂
@stillnessinmovement
7 жыл бұрын
tai chi used to be very serious martial art. it got changed about 100 years ago into the art we know it today. but there are people out there who can use tai chi to fight seriously. but they are the ones who actually practice against all manner of realistic competitors. people don't get that chi (which just means the feeling of energy) is a health and healing power, not really a fighting aspect. BUT, if you are an older martial artist, developing chi can help you stay strong and healthy as you get older. I personally used tai chi to fix my knees, after years of damage and abuse from karate and other sports. that, is high level self-defense. keeping yourself healthy and full of vitality. for martial arts, tai chi is much more suitable than yoga.
@oliskranz
7 жыл бұрын
no, it was never a serious martial art, stop making up bullshit on the spot to save your fantasy
@henryford1160
6 жыл бұрын
Richard Shapiro Jews can't fight
@gregdavis3884
6 жыл бұрын
Combat Tai Chi......or Sun/Chen mixed in w other arts are useful.
@paullytle246
6 жыл бұрын
Henry Ford tell that to the Egyptians and the Jordans and the syrians
@gapaintball7811
6 жыл бұрын
Henry Ford look up Daniel Mendoza
@kaguth
5 жыл бұрын
5:21 Joe did a great Eddie impression there.
@sambromley7394
4 жыл бұрын
I earned my 2nd degree black belt in taekwondo and it has helped me in the past but I learned the hard way that it’s really only effective against people who can’t really fight at all. Ended up having to defend myself at a bar and this dude just happened to know a bit of BJJ and yeah didn’t go too well for me. So now I know I definitely need to work on my ground game so I don’t get whooped again lol. When my son is old enough I’m gonna put us both in BJJ classes.
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
Gracie came out in 1994 and set the world on fire, so it's insane that in 2022, EVERY MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL ON THE PLANET IS NOT TEACHING GRAPPLING DEFENSE! It drives me nuts. But don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. Ground fighting in the streets is suicidal unless you have buddies to back you up, so my advice is use what you learn in BJJ for grappling defense, improve your footwork, learn some western boxing, and reserve your kicks for the opponent's knee.
@overthewebb
Жыл бұрын
BJJ is an amazing martial art, but why in the hell would you want to go on the floor and do ground game in a bar? If it's 1 on 1 and you 100% know it's gonna be 1 on 1 then fair enough, but in my city in Scotland, I know some of his friends are gonna join in if it gets on the floor and you are gonna get destroyed with other guys kicking you or stamping on your head on the floor or hitting you with chairs on the floor. Judo would be a much better way to go, never go on the floor in a street fight imo. It's madness
@johnsinclair2672
Жыл бұрын
Probably better to learn to walk away. Best teach your son that too, it will be the best advice you can ever give him.
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
Key point is that real tai chi training used to involve getting punched, kicked, thrown and grappled, but today, it's mainly taught and practiced as a health exercise by non-fighters. That can have high utility against opponents without serious training but, if you want to use Tai Chi for fighting, you have to spar, grapple, and it's useful to have been in some real fights. Second point is that even a generation ago, the real-deal were still training 10 hours per day. Very few people put in that kind of time anymore. But there's a big difference between a legit Jujitsu master who has trained hard their whole life and people who go the the MMA gym a couple days a week. So don't kid yourself. Regardless of which art I practice and which art your practice, if you train 5 hours a week, and I train 5 hours a day, I'm not worried about having to fight you. Final point is that nobody fights in slow motion so you still have to be able to box and defend against grapples. In my direct personal experience, if you have superior balance and footwork, you'll be able to hold your own against pretty much anyone.
@Bladerunner39
9 ай бұрын
In the words of Bruce Lee “Someone who has been boxing and wrestling for one year, can beat a life-long martial artist” so no, It indeed does matter what art you practice, not just how much you trained, some martial arts are flat out better then others, wake up.
@CosmicDuskWolf
5 жыл бұрын
Tai Chi and Qi Gong as well as Wing Chun can help improve your martial arts as well as help your mental health. A person who believes a style beats another style is wrong. Like Ip Man said it's not the style that wins it's the person. Jujitsu is a strong hard style. I'd love to go on the Joe Rogan show and talk about marital arts.
@danbien
4 жыл бұрын
Tai chi is martial art. In fact it is very complete combat system which includes strikes, kicks, throwing an grapling and also joint locks. It is very efective But (there is always "'but"") only if it is trained properly. 99% of the practicioners in the world perform only tao lu, the tai chi forms, which are very good for health and coordination but it is not enough to develop fighting abilities. So in that case mr. Rogan is right, it is some kind of yoga and meditation exercise.
@billboericke3582
2 жыл бұрын
Tai Chi is a great supplement to training as you get older. When you get in your 50s and 60s, hard training like heavy bag work and sparring damages your joints and causes too much inflammation to be viable - you really need to quit training. But Tai Chi maintains balance, flexibility and leg strength in a way that enables you to defend yourself for years (provided you can fight in the first place). But as a primary fighting art? You'd have to be VERY good, and then it would only work against an untrained and inexperienced fighter. All you really have is a few circular blocks and a palm strike.
@cavendysh
2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@fazares
2 жыл бұрын
late 50 i guess
@mehmetbekir444
5 жыл бұрын
Sadly the fighting styles behind tai chi are pretty much lost but the forms are relaxing. The truth is if you dont like being punched or kicked hard and aren't prepared to accept that as part of fighting or self defence then it doesn't matter what type of martial art you learn
@tkcaapi2876
7 жыл бұрын
tai chi & qi gong imho is mainly awesome for meditation like yoga. when i studied shiatsu, i would look forward to every thursday when we'd do a 30 min Qi-gong breathing meditation. it gave me such a noticeable buzz that for some strange reason it always gave me the urge to get high as fuck after class lol. for self defense ill stick to mma.💪 for meditation i highy recommend qi gong( pron. chee gung) ✌👍
@tylercooper9233
7 жыл бұрын
If you enjoy your qi gong breathing, keep up with it. That is a good enough reason on its own. If you learn from a master, there is application to chi-gong, but you may need to practice it for a very long time before it is clear. Sometimes, it only makes sense to expect someone to understand application after they have been practicing for ten years, because it takes ten years of repetition to change the body enough that it makes sense to expect that movement to come up in self defense, and actually work. The ambiguous nature of the movement is generally subtle on every plane of existence, and similarly, must be absorbed though experience. ~I can tell you what an orgasm feels like, but you would rather just experience it to know what it means right? Looking to chi-gong for fighting application is like looking to a dictionary to understand what orgasm feels like. There is a definition, but it is not going to be satisfying answer for what you are looking for. If you have a good teacher, it doesn't take ten years so long as you are reasonably healthy and balanced already. Even if you never understand the application but you do the movement, that is exactly enough to get the health benefit, so don't let ignorance or ambiguity discourage you in the least.
@viktorcheng2061
7 жыл бұрын
Cat 5 Suspension exactly, Tai chi is a slow breathing, position and meditation exercise and was never meant for combat. It should remain like that.
@tylercooper9233
7 жыл бұрын
Okay... so lets go way back in time to when practitioners of Chan meditation came into contact with Buddhists, over 2000 years ago. The philosophies of Daoism and Madhyamika Buddhism found kinship in each other (think Chinese and Indians sharing mysticism, and keep in mind that Buddhism absorbed all the Vedic literature, especially vedanta philosophies. ) Daoist Tai chi and Buddhist Qi gong are like different trajectories in terms of building your condition for a desired purpose. A good way to answer your question would be for you to decide what you want to gain from practice, and can your teacher give that to you. If your teacher has students who can demonstrate movement and a quality of health you desire, that is a good indication. Qi Gong requires discipline, an enlightened teacher, and dedication, as well as self-sacrifice. Tai chi requires all of those things as well, but to a much lesser degree, so you can get away with being more lax in your practice, and you can reap the benefits of tai chi much earlier, almost instantly depending on who you learn it from. Don't learn from a Chi Gong teacher who has never heard of Nae Gong, or they do not consider themselves a healer. Never learn from a tai chi instructor who can't teach you to incapacitate a person with one open-hand strike, or doesn't seem to constantly abide in a present bliss. A good teacher is more important than the art itself. If they are worthy, they should be able to give you a strong and balanced body, mind, and spirit, and they should be able to demonstrate that they can teach all of those to you by embodying them personally. Aside from that, just do what you would practice. Learn tai chi if you would do tai chi every day... do chi-gong if you would do chi-gong everyday. The benefit doesn't come from 'knowing' how to do the movements, the benefit comes from embodying the movements from repetition. When you hit air, your body reabsorbs the shock of the energy that would have gone into your opponent. Tai chi and Chi-gong are both foundations to teach you to reabsorb and cultivate that kind of energy by opening and closing the whole body in rhythm with your breath, instead of spilling it with arbitrary movement, the forms force certain pieces in your body to work together. Do what you will practice correctly.
@azerty1933
7 жыл бұрын
Tyler Cooper i don't have anything to add, i just want to thank you for that perfect answer
@patrickmodenesi2344
2 ай бұрын
Tai Chi Chuan is a legit martial art and one of the most powerful combat system that can be applied to many different situations.
@ahmadnurzam7402
6 жыл бұрын
Taichi began to degrade as martial art when Yang Chengfu simplified taichi into an exercise that can be done by everyone while in the past, Taichi was meant for martial artist for its demanding exercise. Yang banhou one of legendarry taichi practitioner is very versatile taichi practitioner that in a fight he was not only chopping his opponents neck but also breaking his arm. Also keep in mind that in the past, they (Yang banhou and yang Jianhou) are trained very harsh. His father trained them so hard that Yang Jianhou (father of Yang Chengfu) try to commit suicide several times. However, the pinnacle of degradation of Chinese Martial Art was happened when Culture Revolution, many martial art practitioners at that time were being tortured physically and mentally and some skillful practitioners even commited suicide or cannot physically move anymore because of the persecution.
@ricceniza6046
5 жыл бұрын
Do you believe in flat earth?
@ahmadnurzam7402
5 жыл бұрын
@@ricceniza6046 Irrelevant. What is the point of that question?
@organharvester1983
3 жыл бұрын
Wutang tai chi was used against shaolin, I don't know about their lineage today, but they teach in england
@CripplingDuality
2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadnurzam7402 he's implying that you're gullible
@non_brewed_condiment
2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadnurzam7402 Lmao the fact that you didn't immediately say no is very telling.
@Silentmedic12
5 жыл бұрын
As a US Army Veteran with PTSD. The veterans affairs have helped me with classes of tai chi. It does help with meditation and focus as well as getting better with my mental. 🙏
@tword5687
5 жыл бұрын
yes, it's a martial ART. it's good for the mind.. and it's not a bad base.. but to use it as your sole style in a fight is reckless
@tword5687
5 жыл бұрын
@Tai Chi Tube no, reckless if you use it as your only form of martial art.
@tword5687
5 жыл бұрын
@Tai Chi Tube not at all true. i have trained in military combatives, trained martial arts all my life, and am currently training in Krav Maga, Muay Thai, and BJJ a few times a week. Karate, Taikwondo, Kung Fu, Wing Chung, and Tai Chi are all good as a foundations and bases for a well rounded style... but none of them should be depended on solely in terms of Self Defense. they have their time and place.. but even Bruce Lee said "an athletic person with 1 year of wrestling and boxing training could defeat a life long trainer in Kung Fu... that absolutely goes for a karate black belt, TaeKwondo Black belt, and Tai Chi as well.. self defense situation, especially against someone with a well rounded mixed martial arts foundation could very well just blitz and destroy a person with just "tai chi" training
@tword5687
5 жыл бұрын
@Tai Chi Tube no you're absolute right, I forgot about the long list of respected and feared, infamous tai chi ufc champions.
@steefhol6602
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously your not a golfer.
@elplatanerosoyio6687
2 жыл бұрын
The only problem is that people sometimes don't know how to practice Tai Chi well, because in general, I respect any discipline, any Martial art. Regardless of how useful or useless it is, I hope you understand this gringo neighbors.😌
@saint_punc
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, I practice this beautiful traditional art and I use it to defend myself, not to fight
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
@@saint_punc Yup. I didn't have a choice. Learning to fight was a matter of survival. Because I was always smaller than weaker than the people who attacked me, and because some of those attacks involved multiple opponents, if I'd learned a conventional external style, or even BJJ, I would have been seriously injured. Tai Chi, combined with bagua/hsingyi gave me the ability to survive until I could win. Once I could win, I no longer had to fight b/c there's no one one the planet who can force me to engatge--they don't have the footwork. 😃
@mormebitty
4 жыл бұрын
Chi is real. It can be used to detect, like feeling what your opponent is going to do, or feeling where the next strike is coming from. Practice Chi Control & take MMA classes, you'll be unstoppable.
@fantasticfrankieb
3 жыл бұрын
Tai Chi (meaning Grand Ultimate Fist) is indeed a fighting art. Sadly over the past 100 or so years, that concept became extinct because most of the masters who knew how to use it for fights are long dead.
@munchingpickle623
2 жыл бұрын
It would never have worked against modern fighting styles . A boxer or wrestler or kick boxer or Muay Thai fighter or any of the major fighting forms would blast them BJJ too what tai chi move is gonna help you in the guard of any mid tier BJJ fighter
@dayman161172
2 жыл бұрын
@@munchingpickle623 true thats why im training wrestling and boxing with my kungfu. Chinese martial art has to adapt. Kungfu was always adapted and improved in the past why stop now?
@PauloSilvaX
2 жыл бұрын
I've read an old Chinese book (in English), and the author already said, back in the 30s, that Kung Fu in general had lost effectiveness around the year 1900, where because of a revolt in China people did not want to associate with fights and began to emphasize forms only... This book was about tai chi, and it said tai chi was NOT A FORM, but something to train chi, which according to his explanation was how to improve blood circulation, teach your body to move continuously, give balance, teach your body to react unconsciously when you need to react quickly and you don't have time to think, the ways you used to fight were the normal styles... Tai Chi was a supplement to improve the functioning of your body and normal art to work better... but with that mystical theory of chi... because it wasn't the scientific age yet... That's why they said that it took a long time to practice for tai chi to be understood, that's when you understood how to relax the muscles that are not being used, focus, eliminate unnecessary movements, it's not d different from what is done in MMA today, but today it is done with a scientific approach... Today you train how to rest to endure the fight until the end, how to hit the opponent first by making smarter moves, how to relax, cleanse your mind and focus, etc... Taichi was the psychological part and efficiency of movements at the time...
@vizualdreamerz7562
2 жыл бұрын
@@PauloSilvaX do you know the name of the book by any chance ?
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
It's no entirely extinct, just that most masters are lazy, and stop working hard once they get their credentials and open schools, and very few practitioners today are willing to put in the time b/c financial rewards aren't there. So the only people today really doing it are the ones who do it for reasons beyond money and ego, purely to preserve and advance the art in every generation.
@hashcr
5 жыл бұрын
joe " my jiujitsu master is #1 flatearther on the planet" rogan
7 жыл бұрын
Tai chi More like Die Chi amirite
@michaelwillcox803
7 жыл бұрын
Mike Tython 😂
@holeindanssock156
7 жыл бұрын
Mike Tython Thpinal
@thataintnomoonsucka
7 жыл бұрын
Ha! You sir just made my day. Well played.
@shannonli208
7 жыл бұрын
thavage
@sniperwolfalpha8176
6 жыл бұрын
do you know that Tai Chi is actually meant for fighting. it was used in they're wars for hundreds if not thousands on years. nowadays no so much
@massimilianonicolich
2 жыл бұрын
I am a practitioner of a Kung Fu style founded by an Australian based Timorese named Sifu El Da Costa. Combining Wing Chung and Chow gar (Gow gar) which itself is a combination of North and South shoalin styles and we use a lot of western boxing footwork and general style of fighting for whenever we spar full contact.. I am also a part-time instructor. Regarding mystic stuff, I have seen some strange things but also know there are plenty of tricks out there. I entered full contact Kung Fu in Sydney and it was basically kickboxing with leg sweeps and spinning backfists. It was rough. I have trained with people who earnestly believe grappling is the be all end all but true fighting is absolutely free. If I were ever taken down, I will gouge, scratch, twist testicles, strike the throat, bite etc. This is how I grew up and survived western Sydney during the 1980's and how I survived gang brawls in the street. I hate Street fights but they are fights. Competition regardless of how tough are always competitions.
@obsidianstatue
2 жыл бұрын
Taichi when trained right, and fought in a right way, it's actually a standing grappling and wrestling style. It takes aspects of Shuaijiao (Chinese wrestling) and mystified it, So you need to practice Taichi, WITH Shuaijiao. Shuaijiao gives you the chance of resistance and strength training as well as experience in fights, Taichi is the cherry on top AFTER you mastered Shuaijiao, because it has some useful grappling techniques. The problem with traditional martial art is that their foundation is still things like Sanda, kick boxing or muay thai, but due to the mysticism involved, a lot of the traditional martial art practitioners don't care about the fundamentals and just want to learn this mystical powerful style
@PunisherDMT
4 жыл бұрын
The history on Tai Chi is interesting; where it came from, how it was passed down, and how it has been watered down thru the ages. Most people practicing it are clueless and are merely going thru an exercise. Many of these people have convinced themselves that this type of training is legit for self-defense. But, I have met a couple of people that train some Tai Chi concepts with a true martial arts intent, and it is very different. However, the success of most styles depends upon the practitioner...a Bruce Lee would have stood out regardless of style.
@Quotheraving
4 жыл бұрын
Like you say the success of 'most styles' depends on the practitioner, but so much of modern taiji has been introduced by teachers who have nothing more than 'lineage' and unfounded pseudo-spiritual nonsense to back them up that making a success of it would be equivalent to training in modern dance and then hopping into a mma competition. Your success will be mainly inspite of your training, not a result of it.
@PunisherDMT
2 жыл бұрын
@PrisonCipher I would have to both agree and disagree with your logic. Versions of the styles you mentioned, or better yet combinations of them is what has been proven to work in current MMA competition. But there are watered down versions of each of those as well, and the athleticism of the practitioner most definitely matters. Case in point Bruce Lee coming from Wing Chun roots; Wing Chun may have given him his initial martial arts foundation, but his athleticism and open-minded willingness to adapt and adopt from other styles are what made him stand out...ahead of his time.
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
In my area it is taught almost exclusively by Hippies who only learned a small piece of the art, and talk about "energy" in a mystical context, or dudes who trained hard the first ten years and then started slacking as soon as they got their credentials. A lot of people "go to China" for a couple of months then come back and believe they've got it. But all that results in is they practicing without correction for decades, deepening their errors. I trained with an acknowledged master with an international reputation 5 days a week for decades, and still only got a piece. I still have to "fill in the other parts of the tapestry" on my own. I still seek out colleagues and legit masters for critique, correction, and exchange of information. "Tai Chi takes a lifetime." But those external arts only work until about the age of 40.
@thenewtalkerguy496
6 жыл бұрын
Tai chi is awsome, its just meant to train the mental aspect of martial arts, not for the combat aspect. It needs to be supplemented by an actual combat martial art if one intends to fight.
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
Tai Chi can be used for combat but you have to train for that purpose. My teacher said "10 years, 10 hours a day" for basic competency, which equates to about 36,000 hours or training. For this reason, many fighting schools also teach hsingyi striking and bagua grappling, because those arts can be used with some degree of effectiveness long before the student has any real technique.
@smitnkp
5 жыл бұрын
"Once I settle my chi you can"t even take me down..." I love this line. HAHAHA
@lh2593
5 жыл бұрын
centre not settled
@smitnkp
5 жыл бұрын
@@lh2593 Thanks for correction. Still love it. :)
@lh2593
5 жыл бұрын
Same :-)
@itinerantpoet1341
2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what "Chi" is, but I do know that if I have superior leverage, you can't take me down.
@DestinyPifer
4 жыл бұрын
I have started getting into Tai Chi because I have a messed up back thanks to my previous job as a nurses aide. I am not old by the way but in my 30's however on that note I grew up taking Tae Kwon Do so I have been surprised to find that even though it's been over 25 years since I have done that some of the moves and stances are coming back to me. I would love to get my son into martial arts. He's 12 and I think it would be good for him.
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
I recommend Judo if the kid is interested in serious martial art. He's also going to need a boxing art, but there you want to be careful and avoid anything where they get hit in the head too often. Every martial artist needs to get punched in the face so that it doesn't come as a surprise. But if it's a regular part of training, there's a high risk of brain damage. I've known a fair amount of boxers and a few MMA fighters, and they all tend to be pretty "punchy" by their 30's. Prizefighting is not a good career choice if one has alternate economic opportunities.
@xivok
7 жыл бұрын
Donnie Yen should have fought that MMA guy
@salimras123
7 жыл бұрын
Vivek V You do know that Donnie Yen is a kickboxer, has a black belt in Judo and a purple belt in BJJ right? And has experience in like a dozen other styles. He may have never fought competitively but he's legit.
@regularape
6 жыл бұрын
Salim Ras no, hes not fucking legit. Hes a 54 year old man that never fough, how does that pass of as legit in your brain?
@harryhangar4820
5 жыл бұрын
His mother is a Tai Chi hall of famer & has own her own Tai Chi learning institute, Tai Chi was his first art.
@-nightcore-2559
5 жыл бұрын
@00RIPTOR - donnie yen's mother did wundangquan - which is MMA of kung fu - taiji, bagua, xingyi, baji and wudang sword
@testxy5555
2 жыл бұрын
the MMA guy is Xu Xiaodong, and he deliberately wanted to debunk fake kunfu that misleads people to think they can defend themselves in dangerous situations. He is pretty great.
@caaaaaammy_g
4 жыл бұрын
That was clearly an unfair fight. The tai chi master never got a chance to settle his chi, otherwise he would have kaioken x4 kamehameha'd xu xaiodong across the room
@kamilareeder1493
4 жыл бұрын
It is a fact that chi is concentrated in the gut, which is why so many of them have a belly. Its full of qi 👀
@KevinHuangPhasorQuantaG
7 жыл бұрын
Do aikido people say "chi"? Yes, yes they do. It's in their name. Ki = Chi in Japanese.
@user-ff5cb9do7j
5 жыл бұрын
き is not ち, come on dude wdym
@LeoLCDT
5 жыл бұрын
You the type of guy who challanges conor mcgregor to a fight because you think boxing is fake.
@-TK-
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-ff5cb9do7j it's not a pronounciation thing. The Chinese character for chi (氣) is the same as the Japanese kanji ki (気) aikido (合気道)
@cookingmadesimple9746
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ff5cb9do7j Qi is a chinese word pronounce as CHI. japanese people pronounce it as KI
@adamcaswell1924
6 жыл бұрын
Tai Chi Chuan literally means grand ultimate fist. It’s for fighting if you know what you’re doing.
@pearz420
3 жыл бұрын
China is a republic, says so right in the name!
@samchaleau
Жыл бұрын
"It's some type of mental illness..." Had me howling laughin.
@philcook3370
5 жыл бұрын
Tai Chi should never be used for defense. It is not a defensive art it is for healing, meditation, and flexibility. Chi is the energy around us all that determines whether or not a person is ill. Keeping your chi in balance keeps you healthy it is sad that someone tries to use it as weapon. Train with defensive weapons to protect yourself
@subfreq3339
2 жыл бұрын
Taiji is the pure core of all martial arts. Anyone, at any level of any fighting art, can learn taiji and gain massive improvement and advantage. It's just not practiced with sparring and combat. Taiji teaching doesn't exclude basic guarding and striking. It's about balance, control and efficient energy transfer and projection. It trains you to carry energy and balance from one movement into the next in continuous flow. Can't do any harm to someones style surely?
@chrisbach1533
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. But one of the major problems is the Tai Chi from today is not the Tai Chi from Yang Luchan anymore. Tai Chi, Choy Li Fut or Wing Chun, they have more or less the same roots but evolved differently. In Wing Chun there is a famous quote. The first students of Yip Man were street fighters, the second technicans, and from the third to this day are guys who profite from the reputations from Yip and the first generation students.
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisbach1533 Read my post at the head of this thread from today. The 67/68 Combined Tai Chi contains roughly 25 fist strikes, 12 throws, 9 joint locks, 9 palm strikes, 7 finger strikes, 6 leg sweeps, 5 elbow strikes, 5 heel kicks, 3 toe kicks, 3 leg hooks, 2 arm breaks, 1 side kick. That doesn't include all the pushes, presses, and most of the techniques have more than one application.
@immanuelcunt7296
Жыл бұрын
You're not going to be able to do anything in a real fight without practicing with sparring and combat.
@tonyguar
5 жыл бұрын
Here is the challenge with Tai Chi (Taji) and "Kung Fu" (Colloquial name for Chinese Martial Arts) . It takes years and years to be effectively good at, you need to practice a lot (3x week or more), and somewhat stay in practice to retain. It is NOT easy. It takes layers of training. Basically the opposite of Krav Maga.
@htue9605
5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Guarneri Even with 40 years of tai chi you probably would get beaten up by someone who‘s been training a „real“ fighting style for less than a year.
@tonyguar
5 жыл бұрын
@@htue9605 numbers skewed but point comes across. The Taji taught in the west to seniors (Chen) to get them to move their bodies is not the same as the martial application of Taji ("Yang" I think). There certainly are better MA for self defense and street fighting. As for the cage that is different. Many martial arts strategic philosophy for dispatching opponents is "see this list of rules of what NOT to do in the cage",,, DO THAT! This is where KM, JKD, shake out some of their techniques. Usually if you see a single person sleeping multiple assailants its western boxing. Simple is reliable and often it wins the day.
@kagyu1
5 жыл бұрын
You can practice for 20 years and then get your ass kicked by a boxer with one year training. Kung Fu is delusional. Luckily , all across China, "masters" are getting their asses kicked after challenging MMA fighters. Google Ba Gua Master vs MMA or Wing Chun vs MMA. Lineage holders of lineages founded by people with zero fighting experience are getting pounded by mediocre mma fighters.
@entertaichi
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately people fight they way they train. Tai Chi in of itself is great for health and wellness. The fighting aspect of Tai Chi isn't practiced correctly in most places. The style it self though is very effective. We don't fight using tai chi directly. Much of our training though is heavily influenced by tai chi principles..
@hangten1904
Жыл бұрын
I read that Tai Chi wasn't created for fighting but an exercise that took inspiration from martial arts training. It's like an ancient version of Tae Bo which practically did the same thing but used kick boxing moves. I tried it, takes a lot of discipline to control your breathing while moving your body really slow. I don't know how to explain the feeling, it's like concentrating on where the oxygen and blood flow over your brain and body while moving.
@chrisbach1533
Жыл бұрын
"I read that Tai Chi wasn't created for fighting but an exercise that took inspiration from martial arts training". Well, i dont think that is true. The original founder was Zhang Sanfeng[San-feng] (western name order Sanfeng Zhang), and it was created for the battle field, which means using hands, feet, but also blunt and edged weapon. But later Tai Chi went into different directions. What the Yang family did, ppl like Luchan[Lu-chan] Yang, his son Jianhou[Jian-hou] Yang, etc., had not much to do anymore with the stuff Sanfeng did, it became too soft and today Tai Chi is almost like Yoga.
@hangten1904
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisbach1533I just don’t see soldiers doing Tai Chi in the battlefield against opponents with spears, swords, crossbows and calvary. Also it was Chen Wanting that incorporated boxing moves to Tai Chi. It’s like Taebo, an exercise that’s inspired from Kick Boxing. In addition, ancient Chinese scholars record and document everything and there’s no documentation of it being used as for combat.
@chrisbach1533
Жыл бұрын
@@hangten1904 Dont disagree with your point. Even experts are in disput if Zhang or Chen were the founders of Tai Chi. But we can agree Chen was a military general and what he did was for the military and not just for exercice. So or so i think Chen Wangting(Wang-ting) is "historical" more legt as Zhang Sanfeng, because Zhang is almost a kind of mythical figure, and it isnt even clear when he exactly lived. But so or so i think its fair to say Tai Chi today isnt what it was during the time of Wangting. I just realized after checking out some numbers that Chen Wangting (1580-1660) lived exactly in the same time as Miyamoto Musashi (1584-1645). Sad they never met, but of course it wasnt possible since China and Japan were like "locked up" during these times.
@hangten1904
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisbach1533 I would say maybe Zhang was the founder because he was a Taoist monk and the philosophy behind Tai Chi is Taoist? And then you have Chen who previously served in the military would add to it by incorporating boxing moves and assimilating Daoyin and Tuna into his practice (Chen style). From there, it would be followed by the Yang style and the Wu Style forms of Tai Chi. So if there is a Tai Chi that was developed for fighting it would be in a later modern time, but for Chen, there's no written record of him using it for fighting during his time.
@hanksimon1023
Жыл бұрын
@@hangten1904 Ancient Tai Chi was for fighting. Look up Grandmaster Chang Dongsheng [spelled many different ways] who died in 1986, standardized Shuai Jiao, and taught a Tai Chi form to soldiers that was effective, and deadly, in the field. Most Tai Chi today is like shadow boxing and speed bag work in boxing - good for exercise, but not great in a street fight. You need more than simple push hands and sparring for Tai Chi to work in self defense, on the other hand most people don't want to devote 6 months to a couple of years to learn a Hua Jing move that can shatter an attacker's ribcage. Even Chin na techniques take years of study.
@blkwarriorspirit5528
3 жыл бұрын
Great discussion Joe Rogan and Mr Jocko. IMO no legitimate tai chi master would put themselves or tai chi out there as a modern day fighting art. And as a tai chi practitioner I would define tai chi as being a moving meditation that is good for overall health and wellness. In addition tai chi can aid the body in healing from injuries. Peace Mr Joe Rogan and Jocko
@drew123994
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like kata in karate should be viewed the same way. Obviously, you can train karate in a way that will be useful in fighting, 3 of the goats were karateka, but its ok to use it as a moving meditation and just have fun too.. I hate how mma guys. Especially the bjj guys feel everything has to be "useful in the streets"... not everyone is an asshole who gets themselves into fights all the time
@mrman2415
2 жыл бұрын
@@drew123994 it's not about getting into fights on the street. Nothing like disrespecting a load of people because they don't see the merit in dancing masquerading as a martial art instead of actual combat sport.
@TheJofrica
2 жыл бұрын
1:58 What Jocko said about having proper protocol really shows his training and understanding of how to diffuse situations and how each fighter is actually representing really different lines of history and traditions, the greater political issue that arose from this.
@danielfaust10
4 жыл бұрын
Who else is here after seeing the Robert Downey jr wing chun video 😂
@Qaqortoq-v6d
4 жыл бұрын
The reason Wing Chun rarely works in the ring is because of MMA rules. Wing Chun is meant to disable opponents as fast as possible not just knocking them out. Arm breaks, legs breaks or in a real street fight, Wing Chun is about either breaking the bones or killing them because street fights sometimes can result in bad injuries or death. A real Wing Chun master in a street fight will probably stomp your knee cap in or take your arm and snap your bones very fast. Also you dont Chain Punch to the face, its to the rib cage.
@hiuer1945
4 жыл бұрын
If you're talking street fight, a god damn eye poke or a kick to the balls is probably simpler and equally effective. Fuck, considering there's no rules you can just bite, choke and pinch. Wing Chun, according to your comment, is a fancy version of street fighting.
@jovan3686
4 жыл бұрын
You’ve been watching too many martial arts movies Trevor
@smokingbuddha2771
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think martial arts are fake but martial artists are doing disservice to their art. I mean martial arts were basically use to survive and make a living, it was a job that could get you killed at any time. Martial artists used to fight and kill. But how many of them do you see fight today? Even is you practice MMA, if you have fought in your life, you will get your ass whooped. MMA is superior in terms of the fighting experience that comes with it when being taught. When martial arts start putting their art through the same experience, i think they will rediscover the effective part of their arts.
@worldpizza6190
4 жыл бұрын
There are different schools of tai chi Chian. It translates as 'the ultimate fist'. Chuan is Chinese for fist. Tai chi is a martial art. Chen family tai chi is the one to study to learn it's real applications. Tai chi is a close quarter grappling art originally. The forms and movements (taolu) associated with tai chi teach flow, concentration and the fundamental movements required to apply the martial skills. There are still sifu who teach tai chi as a combat system, they are now far less common than the Yang style sifu who teach for purely health and enjoyment. Chi energy, is just that, a non mystical Chinese term for movement of energy through the body and between practitioners. Tai chi focuses on redirection, energy absorption and redirection. So instead of meeting force with force, you make contact and redirect with force. A natural cynic and very scientific coach, Ramsey Dewey based in China explains all this far better than I can. He studies, teaches and practices MMA in China. Check him out, check out Alan Orr, who teaches MMA and trains fighters using Chinese martial arts very effectively. When the techniques and principles of tai chi are understood and applied by fighters, they become very effective. Ignore the mysticism that westerners have built into Asian martial arts, and find legitimate teachers who understand fighting if you want to study Chinese martial arts, same with all martial arts, you must practice, form, conditioning, application and controlled sparring. All good martial arts instructors do so. Go out and find out for yourself, rather than form judgements, you feel martial arts, it's not possible to learn by KZitem videos and discussion alone. That's for the pub, and to create content to sell advertising space to us, the consumer😉 The
@tpolo2050
2 жыл бұрын
Joe and Jocko always classics 👍🏾
@russellhawkins366
4 жыл бұрын
Ai-“KI”-do - not Ai-“chi”-do. The answer to the question presented is in the name..... (in Japanese the word is “ki” in Chinese the word is “chi” both referring to the same thing).
@jeanseanlee1939
4 жыл бұрын
It literally means air lmao
@caseymcadams5483
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and it must have been Tai chi based on the "chi grounding" or "centering" their chi
@kevincronin6393
4 жыл бұрын
Moving slowly trains you to be able to move faster over time.. Things we might take for granted but its how you learn everything
@mrblue3879
4 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan: "Flat Earth" Kyrie Irving:" whomst has summoned the almighty one?"
@anthonys7660
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve done tai chi for years, it’s great but in all my fights being able to take more punches than my opponent is what won
@liang3102
4 жыл бұрын
You must be bad at it
@anon2234
4 жыл бұрын
@@liang3102 Nah taking the most punches definitely is the trait to win fights. Watch Ali Vs Frazier 1 and 3
@liang3102
4 жыл бұрын
@@anon2234 yes doesn't matter how good a fighter is, you have to be able to withstand force. In real Tai Chi Chuan, there is Nei Kung. This teaches the body to receive force. One can practice Gong Fu till old age, but without Nei Kung it is useless.
@sebas8225
4 жыл бұрын
@@anon2234 Depends on what you are tanking, tanking punches is ok, but good luck tanking a submission maneuveur.
@bryantnonya8704
5 жыл бұрын
Aikido is great for basketball! Because it helps you understand momentum, energy and how to redirect a Defender so you can get around him!
@czr4752
2 жыл бұрын
Momentum, energy, and redirection are things you can learn in any grappling art, not just from aikido.
@bryantnonya8704
2 жыл бұрын
@@czr4752 yeah well I'm telling you as someone who was actually good at basketball that it does help more than other martial arts because the fundamental principles are the same...
@czr4752
2 жыл бұрын
@@bryantnonya8704 Can you elaborate? I’m not debating yet, I’m just curious
@IISoLiDuZII
5 жыл бұрын
I swear to god I got a tai chi ad after this video ended 😂😂
@c4feg4r44
6 жыл бұрын
i practiced a whole suite of Chinese martial arts but i always saw them as good exercise and nothing more.
@Supermomo2007
6 жыл бұрын
it was your choice. i practice chinese martial arts as fighting systems.
@cameronfaxon4064
5 жыл бұрын
Well you're a logical person.. these people out here trying to do magic karate are gonna end up hurt some day
@robleyusuf2566
4 жыл бұрын
Aikido is usefull because it teaches you how to fall on the ground without hurting yourself.
@-MSJ
4 ай бұрын
I see tai chi as a supplement for martial arts not an actual martial art itself. It’s good to increasing focus and staying calm other pressure in addition to it also stretching you body. It’s also known to improve longevity as well, perhaps back in Japan when it was first made it was effective but overtime it’s eradicated and now is just isn’t what it used to be.
@benmiddleton4365
5 жыл бұрын
He was successfully practicing the art of taking his opponents anger and harmful intent into his own body. Probably won't try it again very soon though.
@DrunkenDarwin
6 жыл бұрын
There is a saying in taichi classics that you can train 10 or more years in the art and get nowhere if you aren't training it right. The guy he fought practices "Thunder Tai Chi" it's not one of the 5 main schools and its most likely complete bullshido. I think its unfair to consider the guy a master and that's the infuriating part for people who do train it for martial aspect. If you are an MMA practitioner it would not hurt your study to find a teacher who knows their stuff to get just one lesson from them to see what it's about and if it works for your personal style. I trained muay thai, karate, grappling and I honestly say after finding my school and teacher I thought it was complete bullshit too until they showed me where I was going wrong.
@luvfreedom1470
6 жыл бұрын
Stop making excuses.
@UberEliteGamer
5 жыл бұрын
@@luvfreedom1470 I mean theres parts of the world where shaolin kung fu or tai chi or whatever is beating boxers asses and other parts where boxers win. There is no excuses there is just education. The way people like you think about other martial arts it just stupid. In a way its just like boxing technicalities, if you train with the right teacher and mindset you will be the better boxer same as other martial arts. The way you think about asian martial arts is like saying "boxing is same everywhere, Floyd Mayweather could grow up learning boxing from a guy who doesn't know the right shit and if he gets beat to shit by street fighters then boxing in general is shit because boxing is same every where if one boxer fails that means the whole boxing martial arts is bad"
@shogoracing4294
5 жыл бұрын
Kareem Z Great points, Kareem! I was going to mention that (within the realm of boxing) Floyd Mayweather is an expert that has been training since he was a child. The philly shell style is said to be one of the most difficult to master, and so many have been knocked out and utterly destroyed while attempting to use it. With the way some people think, they might say “oh that style doesn’t work” yet in this case we have evidence that it does with boxers such as Floyd (among others). I was once taught “how you train is how you will fight” and see that the training method, the quality of the student and teacher/coach along with their ability to understand each other is of utmost importance.
@luvfreedom1470
5 жыл бұрын
@Tai Chi Tube yeah I'll get back to my cage where my fight system actually works in real life. Good luck with your flying squirrel ball sack fu bullshit.
Tai Chi guys who have centered their chi before a real fight realize they've been lied to when the smelling salts wake them up.
@ikkenhisatsu7170
2 жыл бұрын
99% of self-defense is staying out of fighting situations and always expecting/being prepared to be attacked. So I think Tai Chi would be useful from that point of view. As a Tai Chi practitioner, you're probably a fool to get in the ring with someone who has practiced combat for years. I don't think it is taught with self-defense as a goal.
@ElConqueeftador86
6 жыл бұрын
Believe in something even if it means getting double legged
@Citizen_0_5
4 жыл бұрын
Joe constantly talks about street fights as if they are ring fights. Like all street or bar fights start out with people on one side of the room and an announcer talking about what style each person will be bringing to the fight. MMA has really brought an unrealistic idea of fighting to the world.
@edmasterson4588
4 жыл бұрын
well put. i like the sport, but it is just that. ju jitsu is great, when mixed with striking arts. you cannot grapple every body-weapon part. to me it seems ju jitsu in actual practice outside of a ring would be most effective if you were losing. like when you are lying on the ground and someone is kicking you and you grab the leg and twist into some sort of joint lock.
@Citizen_0_5
4 жыл бұрын
Christoph truth. From security work and a very small bit of bouncing/ bar scene I’ve not seen too many people (i can’t remember any right now) that fully went to the ground. My partner at work just got out of a 5 year streak of bouncing and says he can count the times on both hands he let it drop to the ground. Striking will almost always come first. Again not saying it’s not worth the time to practice. Just simply that most situations (especially in public) will dictate too many other variables to allow rolling on the ground for an arm bar. On another note, Joe makes references to “classic” martial arts as being out dated, but I would bet both my nuts that if someone took a roundhouse or side kick from Joe (from his classically trained days of TKD) it would be detrimental to their status HAHAHAHA so he’s kinda a perfect example and contradiction to his own argument.
@omrijoker
7 жыл бұрын
kind of over-generalizing. there are many tai chi practitioners who aren't all "wu-wu" and don't believe in stuff but train to the principles of the art. structure, softness, awareness, leading your opponent. all of these aren't some magical "chi" soup properties, they're practical ways to be effective if you truly understand the principle and root it in your experience, the same way a wrestler might train to drive his force from the ground with his leg. also 1:13 many people do not train this in a way that's focused for straight up combat, many don't even train with a partner! and for some reason they believe they're some sort of masters and have zero respect for other arts, but that is no reason to mock the art (there are idiots in every field and on every side of any fence). B.T.W no tai chi practitioner whose honest and isn't trapped in some illusionist story is ever gonna try to stand in front of double leg and just try to hardcore root himself in a wu-chi stance for example. maybe for training but never in a situation where the sparring is free form and somebody big and powerful is really trying to take you down and kill you up like that. check out "Clear's Internal Combat Arts". a dude that has been training in martial arts for over 20 years and "Peter Ralston" who maybe is a bit more "wu-wu" then richard but IS talking honestly out of true self experience and is a true master of fighting, definitely recommend his books even if there quite hard understand but if you don't dismiss it as bullshit and truly open yourself up to the possibility that it is talking about something grounded and down to earth material then you will get so much out of it, but just like any other book you have to do the work yourself and these contain serious long kind of "kung fu" train your ass 10 hours a day for a year to even get decent, but it's worth it. (sorry for the small rant about peter ralston, love that guy) i hope you were open enough to atleast check it out and maybe even take it as something that you don't truly know what it's about and be open to the possibility that you may have been wrong about it. take care!
@omrijoker
7 жыл бұрын
also richard clear has a great DVD out which i highly recommend called "The Art Of Sparring: How to Pressure Test Your Art"
@iraja333
Жыл бұрын
He knew what was gonna happen but for the sake of truth.... True Warrior even got kicked out of dojo worked all his life in. Respect to him support with sponsoring him🙏
@edifysalim5359
5 жыл бұрын
who's laugh every time they mentioned chi? I do
@cfG21
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously you dont know what you are talking about. Chi is over mystified by the west
@home5893
4 жыл бұрын
@@cfG21 #bars
@Gadget-Walkmen
4 жыл бұрын
cfG21 it’s not fucking real
@home5893
4 жыл бұрын
@@Gadget-Walkmen bars
@Gadget-Walkmen
4 жыл бұрын
@@cfG21 chi isn't real anywhere in the world. it's not scientific in the slightest in anyway. How is it over mystified by the west? It's not real point blank period in any way, this "vital force" nonsense is just crap anywhere you teach.
@TheKickboxingCommunity
3 жыл бұрын
I knew Joe was gonna rip on it 🤣
@selfinflictedjoy
5 жыл бұрын
Can we leave the video up while we're talking about the video? I keep dropping Joe to go look for it.
@pranakhan
4 жыл бұрын
They cover it in depth on the Fight Commentary channel.
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a practitioner, but I like learning about traditional martial arts from Asia. I've reached a few conclusions: 1. Chinese martial arts were created for short fights against untrained attackers. Silat is a similar martial art, but it's more useful because it was never banned, like Kung Fu. Okinawan Karate was also made for short fights, before being taught in Japan. 2. Weapons were very important in Chinese MA. 3. A lot of present day Chinese masters are frauds. 4. Chinese martial arts became entertainment since the 19th century: people would put on street shows, using flashy techniques, to receive money from the crowd.
@Ericdtorres84
6 жыл бұрын
Id like to see master wong fight in mma, you have to admit my dude has skills.
@newsearching
5 жыл бұрын
Does he have a record? Like has he won kickboxing matches or anything? If not, no I dont have to admit he knows what he's doing.
@BWater-yq3jx
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it is against the rules to grab da nut in MMA. So, problem...
@bingbong6127
5 жыл бұрын
@@BWater-yq3jx he'd get his bald head kicked off before coming near anyone's nuts in mma.
@k2m524
5 жыл бұрын
Ramsey Dewey calles him out, the perfect opponent for him.
@BWater-yq3jx
5 жыл бұрын
@@bingbong6127 "I fear not the man who has practised 10,000 techniques, but I fear the man who has practised grabbing da nut 10,000 times!" 😄
@doctorpitbull8035
4 жыл бұрын
Curious if tai chi dudes can break the boards with their chi attacks?Or maybe they want learn tricks from Houdini?meditating tai chi stuff dont help in real fight so learn something effective or run away or.can pray
@TD-tc9dj
4 жыл бұрын
XU XIAODONG His story is really interesting try to have him on!!
@gregfromguam
4 жыл бұрын
"That's like a type of mental illness." Cracked me up.
@uyghurmananzar8764
4 жыл бұрын
I hope joe to interview this mma chinese guy, he really want out of China, his name is: Xu xiaodong, his story is not that simple, and really interesting. He also has a KZitem channel
@tsunamitube3351
4 жыл бұрын
They lowered his Social rating" so he is unable to use many services like public transport, passport, cant even rent property in his name... Harsh regime! Dont think people realise this type of shit is coming for us all
@uyghurmananzar8764
4 жыл бұрын
@@tsunamitube3351 His face and name are disappeared in the Chinese internet too. This happened lately
@tsunamitube3351
4 жыл бұрын
@@uyghurmananzar8764 it's scary they can do that to someone! Hopefully he does a border jump and seeks exile somewhere more tolerant.
@freddymeng
3 жыл бұрын
He's said he wants to stay in china and keep educating people, no matter what they do
@perrenchan6600
4 жыл бұрын
So from watching multiple channels, Ramsey Dewey in particular, Modern Tai Chi is nothing more than just a yoga type of exercise. Original tai chi is supposedly a type of grappling, not firing fireballs. Its original meaning and context has been lost due to Cultural Revolution in China banning a lot of combat and a lot of Delusional Masters of the modern Age. The word Chi in Tai Chi isnt the same word for energy/chi. Due to many things, the word Chi in Tai Chi gets Confused with the word energy/chi. Tai Chi for combat, when practices by someone legit, is actually a type of grappling. These legit masters are a super rare though and they dont talk about firing chi balls, they just spar and throw people to the ground with legit throws. People of a grappling background will be able to unlock the "mysteries" of tai chi and figure out the original usage. Its like if Historical Treaties were removed and fencers only had slow moving forms to mimic and understand.Wthout the written words or the consistent use of combat context, any martial art can become lost. That what has happend to a lot of chinese kung fu or other TMAs. People don't remember how to apply them and these so called "masters" are just delusional
@Quotheraving
4 жыл бұрын
Yup Taiji means "Ultimate polarity", refers to the yin/yang symbol and Daoist philosophy and has nothing to do with 'Chi' but It didn't get that name till the 18th century and most likely didn't even have anything to do with Daoist ideas at the start, despite the insistence of modern stylists who claim a philosophical origin.
@perrenchan6600
4 жыл бұрын
@O'Shay Muir that is true. The cultural revolution is not the sole blame. It was more like the kicking the guy whilst they're down. It really sucks coz if more Kung Fu practitioners embraced sanda, things could've been better as they could test the practical side of their art and have some legitimate context to compare. Kung Fu really began to die when the Chinese wars became less and less. Whilst people were still fighting with swords, they would have to learn basic grappling and stuff just like you would in hema. Once that context was no longer available, it's hard to maintain the combat side without having competition
@russellnewton6660
4 жыл бұрын
It was recommended to me after my stroke, it’s a meditative exercise and helpful, nothing more.
@nznick9033
7 жыл бұрын
People harp on about this, but the same problem applies to all martial arts. Yes it's true that many traditional martial arts dont spar rough enough (or at all) and some guys get delusional, but is BJJ or MMA never guilty of that too? You see these tiny guys walking around with BJJ or Muay Thai shirts on like they are the toughest thing in the world and some make all sorts of delusional claims but in reality if a bigger tougher guy had a go at them even if the big guy is an untrained street fighter he has odds on some MMA newbie. Any big tough guy who trains hard and spars is going to fight well no matter what style he trains and in reverse any style that claims to make you unbeatable will get delusional guys jumping on the bandwagon. Most good wrestlers can ragdoll BJJ guys without too much trouble (the history of BJJ in the UFC is mostly them submitting strikers but getting owned by wrestlers) but you don't often see acknowledgement of that from the BJJ guys. There are heaps of videos of BJJ guys for example getting smashed by other styles and picking out a few of those and commenting how unprepared they were doesnt invalidate it as a martial art- it's a perfectly good martial art - it just shows that all martial arts have that common ground of having their ego tripping unrealistic guys. That one video of the tai chi faker getting smashed doesn't invalidate tai chi any more than any other video of one guy losing to another.
@Supermomo2007
7 жыл бұрын
iam a kung fu guy. i took a bjj blue belt down and choked him out with one hand last month. youtube deleted my video immediately.
@carbonbonds3019
7 жыл бұрын
MMA and BJJ don't have this delusion because they sparr on a daily basis. Most of us get our ass beat or tapped out in the gym daily and this build humility. you only see this delusion in Tai chi, akikdo, etc.
@Supermomo2007
7 жыл бұрын
delusion depends on humans and not martial arts. i saw tai chi guys who did sparring with wrestlers and boxers and did it pretty well.
@southtxguitarist
6 жыл бұрын
(the history of BJJ in the UFC is mostly them submitting strikers but getting owned by wrestlers) No, that's not how it worked. Let's call it "submission fighting" and see what happened. Royce Gracie submitted fellow submission wrestler Ken Shamrock in UFC 1. He submitted wrestler Dan Severn in UFC 4. Ken Shamrock submitted Dan Severn. Frank Shamrock submitted Olympic gold medalist in wrestling Kevin Jackson in something like 22 seconds. Kevin Jackson went on to be submitted by Jerry Bohlander, also from the Shamrock's Lion's Den gym. Randy Couture, considered by many as one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time, lost his first two fights (#'s 4 & 5) outside the UFC via submissions. Yes, wrestling has come to dominate much of the MMA landscape, but it was only after the wrestlers learned to defend against submissions. Even the steroid bull moose that is Brock Lesnar lost his first UFC fight to Frank Mir by submission.
@nznick9033
3 жыл бұрын
@@southtxguitarist Yeah hold on. Pure wrestlers with little to no MMA experience losing MMA matches to well rounded MMA fighters with BJJ background isn't any fair way to compare BJJ to Wrestling. It also doesn't change the fact that wrestling absolutely dominates as far and away the most crucial skill for a MMA fighter to have. The first few UFC's only prove anything if you ignore the fact that the Gracie family actually co-owned UFC for the first few tournaments and used it to pit Royce who trained Judo (3rd dan from memory) and striking (especially striking defence) and was basically a MMA fighter against single style fighters to promote their own style. Once the Gracie's, and BJJ fighters in general, had to fight against well rounded MMA fighters with wrestling backgrounds they were dominated and have remained so ever since. In simple terms: BJJ < Wreslting MMA with focus on lots of BJJ > Wrestling (this sums up UFC 1,2 and 3) MMA with focus on lots of BJJ < MMA with focus on lots of Wrestling (this sums up the following 200+ UFCs)
@noir4356
Жыл бұрын
I did TaiChi as a young kid and it saved my ass twice. I didn't know any other martial art. Out of nowhere, a dude tried to jump me. I saw him way before and blocked the strike immediately, the dude was mad surprised and just went his way. Second time was during a concert when someone tried to push me into the moshpit, I did another move I was training for years (but at full speed) and the guy flew away. This time, it was a very basic turn with my body, which could be learned or trained in any other self-defense system. In a ring-situation, 1:1, I would never have had a chance; so my point is: All I learnt was becoming aware of my surroundings and nullify unjustified strikes against me, which I was able to do. I personally think this better than sending someone to a hospital or worse. What I'm saying is: don't take TaiChi at face-level, just because the movements are slow. However, I wouldn't even dare to fight a dude like Francis Gannou (as an example), but then again, violent random behavior on the streets is ususally quite different and not like in the ring either... I think Mr. Rogan actually should do TaiChi, I'm quite sure it's good for him, and even improve his fighting skills.
@controversiallyhonest570
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’ve done Tai Chi in real fights and have won because I mixed it with arts that have evolved and have become known to be more dangerously used. It’s important to not misunderstand. These arts are very amazing if used the correct way and mixed with other arts. If you do a flow movement pulling the fist and you throw a flying knee to the head or pushing and pulling then throwing a Muay Thai kick is extremely effective and both moves are separate arts . Just like Muay Thai and Brazilian jiu jitsu … typical you have both now
@itinerantpoet1341
Жыл бұрын
That has been my experience as well, and I've never fought an opponent smaller, weaker or less experienced than me. Bulk is a force multiplier in grappling, so I've always favored boxing to set the opponent up, then uproot and use a tai chi application. I have 5 distinct styles of Chinese boxing I can go to, depending on how my opponent fights. But Tai Chi is my core art because it's allowed me to wear out every opponent I've ever faced, and has saved me from serious injury more times than I can count.
@richardparker2555
5 жыл бұрын
I use to take a Tae Kwon Do and Kickboxing classes when I was younger. I'm now planning to go to a martial arts school that teaches Judo/ Jiu Jitsu, Tang Soo Do, Boxing, and Sin Moo Hapkido. Both for health and self defense. I'm interested in learning Tai Chi and Yoga for health, meditation, philosophy and improving posture, not for self defense or combat.
@jkjkhardcore666
4 жыл бұрын
Tai chi is an exercise, not really a martial art. Its like fighting the pushup master
@MrParkerman6
4 жыл бұрын
It's all relative though. The more different types of movements you learn, the easier fighting will become. Dancing, cheerleading, fighting, acrobats, Martial Arts, Juggling,basketball, sport, sex even, etc. It can all be broken down to movement of the body, it's all relative. What ever gets you the results you want.
@hoegild1
4 жыл бұрын
You have to believe... in the Boxer rebellion, the chinese pheasants were taught to be invulnerable to bullets. When they werent, the survivors brushed it off because the dead guys just didnt believe hard enough..
@bajovato
4 жыл бұрын
I am a tai chi instructor and a practitioner. But I only practice and teach for health. Tai chi applications DO NOT work in a fight because there are just too many variables and a fight is just too dynamic. When younger students ask me to teach them the self-defense applications I always tell them to go learn jujitsu, wrestling, muay thai or boxing. I have yet to meet a single tai chi practitioner that can be effective in a fight. I think the effective application of tai chi in a fight has long been lost to antiquity. I don’t think there’s a single person in the world who truly knows how to fight with tai chi. For this reason I think it should be practiced for health first and foremost. ...my two cents.
@Supermomo2007
4 жыл бұрын
you practice tai chi gong and not tai chi chuan, you are fake
@DJEmirMixtapes
2 жыл бұрын
I've seen it be effective many times and we still teach it as a martial art at Shaolin Kung Fu there is a reason they say "To enter the gates of Tai Chi, you must first pass through the halls of Shaolin"
@infidel900rr
Жыл бұрын
I remember thinking I was tough. Then I joined an MMA gym. That gym humbled me time and time again. But after a few years, i no longer “thought” i was tough, i knew it. 👊
@God_And_Gains
5 жыл бұрын
Taiji can be used as long as you use moves that are effective and get rid of what isn't.
@chinesebob7220
Жыл бұрын
Tai chi chuan is a martial art but dancers like Gerda Geddes and Sophia Delza promoted it as health exercise. Students of teachers like Dan Docherty or CK Chu used tai chi in full-contact fights.
@TheOriginalRizk
4 жыл бұрын
Joe: You can't use Wing Chun against someone who knows what they're doing. Tony Ferguson uses Wing Chun to beat the crap out of guys in UFC Joe: Holy crap, it works!
@rooley5
4 жыл бұрын
That's because Tony Ferguson is a black belt under Eddie Bravo, a world champion wrestler and has solid Kickboxing chops. He uses Wing Chun because he can he has a solid base in MMA already. He isn't using just Wing Chun.
@TheOriginalRizk
4 жыл бұрын
@@rooley5 Yeah, we know. Also, Joe Rogan knows that too. No one ever steps onto the mat with just one martial art. That's why they call it "mixed" martial arts.
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