I've been reading your magazine articles and books for 30 years, John. Great to see you with a KZitem channel!
@nickchapman7981
5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, I like the boilie tip, but please lose the the music.
@martinvaughan4374
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah music is over the top. Otherwise loved it.
@charlesbarnett2724
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I think we can live without the music.
@chrisguygeezer
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, seconded. I really don't understand why a music background is needed anyway. This happens so often and I just have to skip to the next video. Don't mind a bit of pastoral but, this electronic stuff just grates.
@IanCampbell-px4iu
5 ай бұрын
I really like John Bailey and tench are my favourite fish,but I switched off due to that awful “music”. It’s fishing,no music is required!,
@charlesbarnett2724
4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite angling writters. Thank you John.
@ceej100
Ай бұрын
Great Video John. Returning to fishing after a three decade hiatus, & now in my 60s, I had yet to catch a tench! I now have 3, (with a PB of 5.5lbs)… All caught on your boilie/hair rig. The venues were not gravel pits, having a water depth of just 3-4 feet, but fishing two feet over depth worked just fine. Thank you very much for your tips and technique. Regards Chris
@markhepworth4804
5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff John,some beautiful floats you have there,enjoyed the info! But you don't need that music,it's generically bad and a curse of recent KZitem vids and does not suit you and your style. I know the music is another headache for a you,but interesting music by actual musicians will serve you far better,doesn't have to be the centre of attention,but music is like lighting,get it right and it really pops the ambiance! All the best.
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks - Mark for the feedback , you are not alone in that comment I guess we were trying to avoid it being another same old fishing track but you point about a musicians created track is a good one.
@davian68
5 жыл бұрын
Great video, love float fishing for 40 years and always will
@staridwork4902
4 жыл бұрын
The wind comment is pure Jedi. I was fishing a massive gravel pit (Duck Lake Witney) and wondered why some days better than others. Big big tench. But realised it was wind direction. The poor days was the northerly wind. Now makes sense had no idea they were sensitive so would just go were the wind direction went as standard. Thanks
@TheAutisticAngler
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John, just came here after watching one of bob and paul's videos. I'm a beach angler just starting trotting and thoroughly enjoying it.
@peterwebb1026
Жыл бұрын
I've just had my interest in Tench rekindled by this video. Can't wait to get out there and give it a go. Thanks for the video, looking forwards to the next one
@ThisisEngland1066
Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@myke.h2913
4 жыл бұрын
I have gone back to float fishing for tench over the last three seasons there is nothing like watching a float dip away the bend in the rod and like you catching on a centrepin the right tackle and it's absolutely exhilarating.
@mishmashvideos4329
4 жыл бұрын
My older brother told me the fist time I ever went fishing when we were kids when you hook that first fish you will be hooked for life 20 years later still at it.
@thephotographer539
2 жыл бұрын
Been tench fishing since 1973, but you've come up with 3 things I didn't fully appreciate! Will put them into practice easter Monday
@stever9583
4 жыл бұрын
Hey John, I’m just getting back into fishing after finding golf 20 years ago. My wife said I was a nicer person as a fisherman than I am as golfer. The funny thing is when I’m on a golf course and see a lake I think I’d rather be fishing. So here goes. Great vid but don’t like the plastics.
@thephotographer539
5 ай бұрын
Yes, the same! And I've never yet thrown a fishing rod
@justinmorgan494
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb video, two fantastic tench videos this week with this one and the one from Paul Garner, can’t wait for the next one!
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you - glad you like it.
@tiernanwearen8096
2 жыл бұрын
@@baileyfishing6066 i loved your book trout at ten thousand feet
@mrw9513
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, not surprised though as my first and favourite fishing book was your the fishing detective book. Thankyou and very best wishes and stay safe and well to yourself and your family. Tight lines
@stevefitzpatrick1101
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you john, i have been a big fan of yours for years
@plreeve
2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I took My Grandson with me today to try this method. The wind was blowing down into one end of the pond and felt cool. On walking around I found a quit little bay that felt warmer and not much surface wind. In went two floats, all shot under the float and fished over depth. One rig was fake corn, the other was a T rig mad up of fake caster and maggot. I fed some partical and maggots over the top. Both rigs were critically balance. We did not have long to wait and the float burried and the center pin was spinning. I could not believe that the fake bait would work, but it did. I was using a specialist size 16 with a hair rig set up as a claw. A lovely female Tench was soon in the net. The rig was cast in again and after a short wait the float burried again, did not have time to strike as reel spinning again. The T rig was doing the business, but they were not into the corn rig. Must of liked the red fake maggot and caster. Thanks again, I've learnt a lot.regards Paul.
@seanbateson3398
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John glad to be back on the float! Keep the music!
@IrishAnglingDiaries
Жыл бұрын
Superb video, the fine art of fishing.
@jasmijnariel
3 жыл бұрын
You should stop music when you talk sir... as a person myself with english that is NOT my first language, and a bit of a hearing problem, i had problems to understand everything , the music distracts a lot from focus
@SteveSandersonArt
5 жыл бұрын
Great information, lovely vid. I usually fish for tench in the traditional lift method style when float fishing, will have to try this. Definitely food for thought. Look forward to the next installment.
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve - any ideas on what you would like to see next?
@SteveSandersonArt
5 жыл бұрын
@@baileyfishing6066 Maybe crucians or eels :)
@ThisisEngland1066
Жыл бұрын
@@baileyfishing6066 different rigs for tench and mass amounts of weed and silt?
@ianlewis9365
5 жыл бұрын
Great video John, well worth the wait. I have certainly learnt a lot and might just have to put my fly rod down for a while and use some of those great looking floats! Glad you like them and nice to see the float roll getting some use.
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it will get your floats more interest.
@ianlewis9365
5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully.
@bdfloresa
Жыл бұрын
Perfect set of bobbers for different lengths and weights.
@rockdogization
5 жыл бұрын
brilliant john some great tips there..i use the boilie rig as well its a killer rig..and cuaght me some bonus large carp as well...
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
rocdogization thank you. John
@foggy1712
4 жыл бұрын
Ahh Bliss..... Perfect viewing during the lockdown. Loved hearing the technical Mr Bailey giving us his take on tench - after all, experience is based on the sum of your mistakes as well as successes and we all learn differently, so simply superb to hear one mans view given in a gentle and yet focused way. 'Keep ahaad, John' as we say up north and look forward to bumping into you again 'on thother side' of this pandemic. PS Was so engrossed in it I ignored the music :o)
@georgefrost7958
5 жыл бұрын
great vid thanks john!!
@tonywoodward5915
2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, Great video, very informative. We met a few years ago at Stansted, on our way to Limoges and spent a couple of days fishing, including for tench. Never did catch that chub from the Wensom.
@dustoart5242
4 жыл бұрын
Great clip, hope they keep coming.
@paddyfromireland9277
11 күн бұрын
Hi John, did I see you fishing in Ireland on the River Barrow above St .Mullins in 1981? The Embassy Challenge fishing competition was held on the Barrow for first time.
@nickkennedy9108
4 жыл бұрын
Hi John, takes me back to our trips to that fishery. No shot on the line has proved successful elsewhere. Looking forward to another next year. Agree with the comments below About the naff music though!
@johnpalmieri6702
3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I have been fishing a local club pond which is well stocked with Tench up to 6lb but although getting the bites I didn't seem to connect so I watched your 2019 video with interest. I took your advice and fished the float over depth with all the weight fixing the float only, well what a difference I hooked into 7 decent Tench throughout the session, landed 5 and lost a very powerful Tench in the reeds, I know it was Tench because our club built this pond to be Carp free. Thanks for the advice. John Palmieri
@Strixphoto
5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant viden, very nice to watch =)
@portcullis5622
5 жыл бұрын
Nice, informative film but I think that the annoying, generic music will scare most tench from the margins. It might be OK for the (common) carp but I always find that tench are more discerning and prefer traditional folk and acoustic music, or a bit of 1970s prog rock.
@KevinKempOvenmagic
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips thanks
@fishyfishy8688
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great video.
@richarddavies828
2 жыл бұрын
Really good, I fish a lake with lots of carp , so I will try this for the tench , some very big tench, but the carp always bully out the tench!!
@gii_vannile
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much . Oct. 29th 2021 Fri. 05:55 am from Yokohama City Japan
@briancox144
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Enjoyed very much
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian
@shaunr8558
5 жыл бұрын
Great video John look forward to more 👍
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shaun - what would you like to see next?
@shaunr8558
5 жыл бұрын
Some big roach on the float would be good good luck
@davidhughes4804
Жыл бұрын
Great video very good tips.Were you fishing at Rockland mere.Well done
@brg456
2 жыл бұрын
Please can someone put my mind at rest? I'm nervous about deep hooking if I fish 2ft over depth and with no telltale shot. Surely the float won't do anything until the fish has moved a considerable distance? Am I missing something?
@wojciechlemanczyk7218
5 жыл бұрын
Brillant Video!
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@QBtracksandstuff
3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@easyfishing1936
5 жыл бұрын
Hi John, that was a great advert for traditional handmade floats! What about floats for the average angler who is forced to use shop bought floats? Now my biggest concern is drift and tow, and weed. Any movement on the bait means it get weeded up resulting in dropped baits, at least on my venues. However I will try your no shot down the line method as I am always looking to catch more fish, and my local venue is crystal clear,with huge weedbeds. I am forced to use very heavy pole gear just to fish in the little clear gaps. I look forward to more of these video’s. Regards Bill
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill - I understand your point about shop bought. The style of float is the most important point. Re your point on weed. Yes I am primarily talking about gravel pits with limited amounts of weed, but if you choose the correct float pattern a boilie should provide sufficient weight. Good luck
@easyfishing1936
5 жыл бұрын
Bailey & Fishing Hi John, thank for your reply. I enjoyed your video immensely and will try your approach where possible. One point I will raise though is some very good anglers fish a helicopter feeder rig with a very short hooklength and a popped up bait and I have had some success with this approach, so what are your thoughts on this? Regards Bill
@ianlewis9365
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill. I hear you on the price point regarding handmade floats. Obviously handmade = time and hence price but I would point out that they offer today's anglers access to different or 'lost' patterns and something with more soul than plastic tubes. I would love to send you one - possibly one of the ones John uses in this video, for you to try. No charge. I would genuinely value your feedback after you have used one for a while. I would like to say that while they are initially more expensive than shop bought floats, the use of natural materials makes them considerably more durable and in the long run they work out no more expensive, but as I say I would value your feedback ( privately if you prefer). Contact me on handmadefishingfloats@yahoo.com and we can discuss a suitable float for you to field test if you would like. K.R. Ian.
@easyfishing1936
5 жыл бұрын
Ian Lewis Hi thank you for your comment and your very kind offer, which I will take up. I do understand why people make, buy and use traditional floats. I started fishing with traditional floats many years ago as I had no access to tackle shops and no money, indeed a lot of my gear was made at home from free materials. I still use ‘topper’ floats, made from elder pith and crow quill for bread fishing in deep rivers very successfully. A lot of people don’t realise Peter Drennan started his business making floats in his garage, so I guess I they are homemade floats! Now of course he mass produces floats in his factories but still makes a couple of patterns from peacock quill and balsa but they are not as durable as his more modern floats nor are the shot loadings as consistent. Kindest regards, Bill
@laralewis6702
5 жыл бұрын
@@easyfishing1936 Hi Bill (sorry - using my wifes account) - Ian here. Ping me an email on handmadefishingfloats@yahoo.com with what floats you fancy having a go with. I would value your feedback after you have had a chance to use them a while. (sorry - only just seen this message - I don't get notifications as it is Johns channel)
@mulletmanpete
4 жыл бұрын
Very clearly a shot on the line about 12 inches above the hook @14.34
@Michael020
2 жыл бұрын
What's the pointt in showng us floats made by his mate? Doesn't help anyone
@kevinwoolner2621
3 жыл бұрын
My favourite way of fishing for tench , Avon rod and centerpin, no bolt rigs , float fishing is more enjoyable, the lift method is deadly
@alexpeters1080
Жыл бұрын
If you gonna b all nice n traditional seems a pity to fish for tench on float fished boilies! In my experience it's hard to fish float on any sort of big pit unless you fish on the back of the wind, with the waves, water flow etc. Those Polaris type floats give the bite sensitivity of the float but u also get to anchor it in position with a light lead. Also they automatically set at the right depth so no messing wi plumbing depth. They ideal for pit float fishing for tench compared to a normal waggle float.
@reddeaddaily62
4 жыл бұрын
Great video (y)
@thephotographer539
2 жыл бұрын
But how do you shot the line if you're using the buoyant maggot/bloodworm bait? Do you still have 2 feet on the bottom, so one shot 2 feet from the hook?
@davidoakley8312
3 жыл бұрын
Also you mention you use the weight of the boilie to anchor - do you use any shot near the hook for maggot or bloodworm as these would be very light?
@Jfb-je2qz
3 жыл бұрын
Please ... next time you see Bob Mortimer teach him to hold the rod properly .... :)
@martynweigh4541
2 жыл бұрын
Are tench good to eat?
@FreeSpeech1959
6 ай бұрын
How can 3 maggots weight more than a boilie?
@lamouke420
Жыл бұрын
Got these thinking they were the slightly larger Panfish floats kzitem.infoUgkx_rJB7cli5f1ofPVGgn80S7Yj4vqwq0gU they work just fine. The smaller size lets me carry more in my tackle box, and the 3 color choices are nice for different lighting conditions, backgrounds, etc. They aren't the most durable things in the world. But, as cheap as they are, it's not heartbreaking to lose one or have to replace a worn one. The price on these fluctuates wildly, from about $9 to almost $16. So, time your buy accordingly.
@davidoakley8312
3 жыл бұрын
Great vid - thanks John and some superb advioce - out of interest what BS line do you use? Also if fishing in a water with carp would you up the BS to cope just incase? Thanks
@thephotographer539
2 жыл бұрын
So I tried this on my morning session today with boilies and prawns, and while you are no doubt completely right, I found I couldn't hit the bites I got until I changed to the lift method, which yielded three in reasonably quick succession. I couldn't help the feeling that the tench could move the bait around and perhaps eject it with the 'no shot' set up, while I wouldn't get much indication of anything happening?
@thephotographer539
5 ай бұрын
Looks like you're using quickstop hair rigs? Great for ease of use, but I can't find any that are less than 8lb bs
@tacticalzombie7147
7 ай бұрын
If the tench can see the shot it can see the swivel so really doesn't matter.
@shaunabbey8435
4 жыл бұрын
Hi John do you still fish 2foot over depth even with the maggot and bloodworm or just the boilies
@wakou222
Жыл бұрын
Hi John, what reel is that? Is it usable for trotting as well as stillwater?
@chepachii
4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Jon, you say no shot on the line but it looked like you had a bunch of shot near the hook, how far do you have this?
@willemritsema7014
4 жыл бұрын
I have question wich rod you used.
@jbradshaw4236
4 жыл бұрын
Are you guiding again John?
@gee3883
5 жыл бұрын
Hi John, what line do you use please on your float set up ? A venue I am fishing at the moment has Tench feeding in the margins in gin clear water and they just seem so clever on avoiding anything I present to them. I am hoping that this wafted bait approach with no shot on the line will be a game changer. I know I could probably get better results with a pinned down line and a helicopter/feeder rig but I love fishing in the bubbles with a float.
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Graham - I am happy with 5lb mono - brands such as Drennan or Maxima
@J_D_Adama
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. If you were to rake the margin a few times, would you still fish 2 foot over depth?
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting question Shire Craftsman - I might be tempted to shorten it a little yes.
@markjenkins3329
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, glad of the tips but music is distracting and overwhelming!
@Justanoldsoulman
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Nice video mate. Can I ask couple of questions please. I take it you use no shot down the line for any of the baits, so for the balanced baits they would take a long time to actually settle right? Quite a lot of small roach and rudd where I fish, think this would cause a few problems ( did really like the fake blood worm hook bait!! Im sure the roach would as well haha ). Secondly how much do you dot the float down and then what do you strike at as a bite? And while im here what hook link do you use for your hairs, braid or mono? Thanks in advance John
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
You will need some shot a BB if you use naturals/plastics but set it at least 1-2ft over depth so that by the time they feel the weight they are committed so to speak. Float about 1-2 inches vin a chop half an inch in still conditions, hook links are mona with a bait stop. Guru do a good one.
@Justanoldsoulman
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jontrackerjack
5 ай бұрын
Great information, argh that awful musac annoyingly intrusive.
@royboy4743
4 жыл бұрын
You might fool a tench but not me ,you need at least one shot to position the float when a tench picks up the bait you will get a reaction on the float usually a lift bite,ive been fishing sixty years and caught hundreds of tench.
@Richie65afc
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. One question I would like to ask is that when I have fished most lakes, you always get an undertow and I have to put more shot on the deck to hold the float in position. I can certainly see the method you use as the Tench can't feel any shot or see any shot on the line, but how do you counter the problem of the float not getting dragged out of position?
@Mrkevc44d
5 жыл бұрын
Great video John really educational but lose the music it’s just to distracting .
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin - I get it. Will build that comment into the next one
@portcullis5622
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it will scare the fish. Tench much prefer folk and acoustic music.
@Takis214
4 жыл бұрын
do you eat them?
@portcullis5622
4 жыл бұрын
Boilies or maggots?
@lucianmoraru3285
5 жыл бұрын
John, When you present, please take the music off or lower the volume, very noisy and disturbing.
@CB-xr1eg
5 жыл бұрын
Or, leave off the music altogether. Its not necessary at all!
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Yes I am getting that load and clear. Thanks for taking the trouble to watch. John
@cuzzo142
4 жыл бұрын
Music cheesefest 😂
@michealgillman7418
Жыл бұрын
Great advise...but that music was F ing awful...why??
@johnmurphy1466
Жыл бұрын
Nice video, but oh my giddy aunt that tune was annoying!
@FScully100
2 жыл бұрын
Good film but terrible music its like an ear ache
@fireworkboy
2 жыл бұрын
This music is the opposite of fishing
@Takis214
4 жыл бұрын
next time use earthworm for bait i think it's the best
@KirilKirkov99
2 ай бұрын
The music that covered the video is awfull 😢 very loud 🔊 and depressive , sorry .
@jayv5256
3 жыл бұрын
Can't watch, the music driving me mental.
@alvor2762
4 жыл бұрын
Really great advice and interesting to listen to you but I could only handle so much of that repetitive "music" - sorry!
@digsowgrow
3 жыл бұрын
Nice film. Ditch the annoying music
@Osk.S57
5 жыл бұрын
The music is just annoying. Switched off.
@blejaneyhre101
4 жыл бұрын
The potential of a really good video. Sadly I got to the demonstration on floats - but that background-music was so annoying - that I had to stop watching. Please return to the edit and cut that from the time-line, we just want to hear you. It is dream fishing to me and I'm sure it is to so many; please let's see it without that copyright-free jingle. Best wishes.
@honeyfras1
Жыл бұрын
I see you were using micro barbed hooks you should know better the damage they do to fish with rubbery lips please throw them away
@robertsnell5367
4 жыл бұрын
Yes the music is "rubbish" and it does not set the mood, otherwise AOK!
@MrSLYTendencies
5 жыл бұрын
I respect your knowledge but Jesus tench fishing seems slow boring, you gotta come to the states go bass fishing way more aggressive and they put up A better fight
@connorpilgrimfishinguk300
5 жыл бұрын
Fuck off, leave British fishing alone
@geoffpoole483
5 жыл бұрын
If you must have "music" then please use a more appropriate style/instrument. Acoustic guitar would be a good choice. This muzak is totally unnecessary; it adds nothing to the video.
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
Geoff its a learning curve for me - thanks for watching
@michaelmcquiggan1252
3 жыл бұрын
Nice tips awfull music no need for the music at all sorry John
@keithreeder
3 жыл бұрын
I know it's been done to death already, John - but for pity's sake, have the music picked by someone old enough to have two descended testicles...
@Mu5hman
4 жыл бұрын
3 mins in... least fitting music ever :{
@MrFlixibu
4 жыл бұрын
there's o need for this ugly music in the background
@timothypoultney3761
4 жыл бұрын
Horrible music !
@ilovejimrogers
5 жыл бұрын
I haven't found anything that beats a worm for tench, apart from the right location in the right conditions.
@richardbarrett7544
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry John, but I must take you to task on the boilie float, no weight rig. Assuming the float is shot correctly, the fish could pick up the weightless bait and move upwards almost to the surface without any indication on the float of any kind? The fish could move up and away again several feet without you knowing. It seems a crazy way of trying to fish when you know a simple shot near the float would have a big reaction on the tip once moved, and little effect on the fish. The lift method does not have to have a big shot near the hook, only a small one in calm conditions. Also any wind on a shot-less float would have it drifting all over the shop, the bait being pulled along the bottom by the float. Sorry a crackpot idea for me. Sorry John!
@thezanzibarbarian5729
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Full of useful facts. Though one thing stood out. Tench eat boilies. We know that. Carp fishermen catch Tench on 15mm boilies and bigger ones. But then you say that a bunch of 3 maggots and a hook is to heavy for them to suck up! But a hook and a 15mm boilie is a lot _HEAVIER_ than a hook with a bunch of 3 maggots on. That's just a bit contradictory to me. However. I've always found that a 12 or 14 hook with a whole dendrobaena worm cut in two _(So you have the whole worm but in two pieces on the hook.)_ is something that Tench will not pass up.
@FishingConnectionNiederrhein
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great tench tactics video. Greetings from Germany. Boilie on the float sounds like an interesting method.
@andym5338
4 жыл бұрын
you take me back to the 80s when i watched yourself, and MR WILSON . When my fishing life started..
@garethjones7182
5 жыл бұрын
Good vid there John and some classy floats! Initially you use a boilie, next you state don't use 3 maggots on a size (say 14) as the weight of hook+maggot is too much for the tench to suck up, surely hook+maggots are lighter than hook+boilie?- unless that boilie was a wafter/ critically balanced, just sayin'!
@baileyfishing6066
5 жыл бұрын
You make a good point Gareth, the limitations of video editing! The point is I am prebaiting with boiles so the tench are used to the weight to suck them up ,whereas maggots replicate bloodworm which requires less force. Hope that makes sense.
@davidcowdry8556
5 жыл бұрын
Hi John, great vid. I'm hoping to catch up with you & Robbie at the beginning of August. Glad to see you are still using the floats I made you.
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