Where is the line? If I put in 100s of millions of dollars in R&D and someone comes in and starts piggybacking off of my work, am I liable? There is Trimble, FJ and other GPS operating systems, why not build a system around them?
@rossmanngroup
Жыл бұрын
The line is when I pay $500000 for my personal property and you push an update to it that disables it from working with gear of my choosing.
@toddaho9781
Жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup so if you could opt out of the update would that solve the problem?
@evk10000
Жыл бұрын
I work as a farm hand and service technician running and repairing Deere equipment. Updates aren't forced as far as I know. The 2630 display notifies the operator about available updates every time you power it on. I have had to manually check for updates on the 4600 display before, but that doesn't exactly mean it doesn't check for and install updates in the background.
@tali3san337
Жыл бұрын
So John Deere isn't piggy backing off the billions of dollars the US Government and taxpayers have invested in GPS satellites and technology?
@ilyarepin7750
Жыл бұрын
the update should not prevent third party devices much like updating my windows os should not brick my computer from using other web browsers. Is that clear to you?
@fryingpanofjustice
Жыл бұрын
Watch John Deere now say that the opinions of John Deere employees don't represent the opinion of John Deere.
@Kx0195
Жыл бұрын
"A third party contractor made statements that do not reflect the internal values of John Deere" And then continues doing the same practices.
@barms9768
Жыл бұрын
Of course they're going to say that. Also, if this gets any traction, that trade show rep is fired if he isn't already. They have not only mastered the art of lying and fear mongering, when against the ropes they are quite adept at creating plausible deniability as well. Slimy people/companies all react the same in these situations.
@michaelm1
Жыл бұрын
Of course the opinions of John Deere employees don't represent opinions of John Deere. That is because John Deere has much more deplorable, ugly, disgusting and inhuman opinions than his employees.
@gfx260
Жыл бұрын
As a previous JD Dealership employee… i’ll just say i love my scag mower and would rather buy a kubota tractor
@slothypunk
Жыл бұрын
@@barms9768 If you at the same situation, wouldn't you do the same? I mean I get it, My opinion is that John Deere is POS. But... when you have family to feed and you already in the middle of your business progress that seemingly against others, what you gonna do? Did you sacrifice your family's future and possible divorce if your business getting dropped like hell, or just do the same just like any other who gets caught, deny everything?
@AQDuck
Жыл бұрын
The voice change of the John Deer dealer when he realized he got caught was just beautiful.
@luigivincenz3843
Жыл бұрын
One thing I learned selling on a platform that EVERYTHING that I respond in kind, can and will be used against me by the buyer, and vice versa. That's why I have 100% feedback for years. My cousin is a business and tax atty. (one of his specialties) and one thing he knows: when you are in a conversation, ASSUME you are being recorded.
@remibeauvais743
Жыл бұрын
As a land surveyor, I found this so sad to see a price this high. This is bullshit
@think2023
Жыл бұрын
Keep doin what ur doin! A trusted source for common sense and justice!!
@comfortsnail6342
Жыл бұрын
It's about time to send John Deere a Dear John.
@ljprep6250
Жыл бұрын
Love it, love it, love it when a practicing monolopolist gets the shaft. FJB, FJD, Bless Kevin Kenney!
@senjoronie3971
Жыл бұрын
The world would be a better place without these billionaires. We should move towards making that happen. We need to stop thinking "anti-trust." We need to embrace the TRUTH that the solution starts with "G" and ends with "UILLOTINE." That is the solution and the sooner we begin to apply it the better off we will all be. G to the EE O TEEN.
@paulsylvester1394
8 ай бұрын
I have a dear friend who is a real farmer in Iowa. There is no love lost on John Deere. Instead of helping the farmer, they are driving the farmer to foreign purchases.
@matthewspencer2094
Жыл бұрын
Not "We will do this in a year." We already did this the last time, we did it to remove the competition. We're gonna do that every time.
@Durayne
Жыл бұрын
I work a lot/ used to work a lot with RTK GPS (completely different field of applications though). I dont know all the technical details but in general you have a GPS Mouse and Mobile Network Antenna and you use correction data received via Mobile Network. For the latter you need a mobile phone contract and a contract for the service provider of the correction data. The latter is kinda expensive, like around ~2000€ per year if I remember correctly. If its a flatrate.
@everytoolashammer9427
Жыл бұрын
Imagine the conversations the guy being recorded are gonna be subjected too after this
@AntonyTCurtis
Жыл бұрын
Best part of this video is when Louis describes what happens to his houseplants after 3 weeks...
@jasonwood9263
3 ай бұрын
Having been a Tech at deere for years, this is one of the 2 main reasons I pounded sand right out of that shit eating "job".
@WarPigstheHun
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the dealer too is disillusioned and realizes that what he says doesn't matter.
@eventprogenitor1873
Жыл бұрын
They also fed with the people that put food on everyone's table.
@TheBarbariangamers
Жыл бұрын
the problem is unless they admit it like this anti trust is worthless. as weve seen with all these other tech companies. i feel we need to lock things down airtight that you. cannot. for any reason. cause competitors' stuff to not work.
@nopenope5203
Жыл бұрын
So uh... Where can I find this GPS that's competing with Starfire? Would certainly love to look into more options. Do you think it's fine to get this now or should I wait a while and see what happens with this "Update"?
@AngryPainting
Жыл бұрын
Killdozer/killtractor right into JD HQ.
@tmaxnun2
Жыл бұрын
"The views and opinions expressed are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of John Deere" -John Deere
@johnsmith-bt4ur
Жыл бұрын
Evercare doctors in Brisbane Australia . 45 bucks a month subscription service for a doctor. Here we go.
@mySeaPrince_
Жыл бұрын
Subscriptions are the same model as a drug dealer uses. An old mobile phone will tell you where you are... Then it's working out what data you would like to know and having sensors feeding a laptop. Is there any freeware or shareware you can contribute to?
@Pr3stag3
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I think they will come out and say
@shadowscott9910
Жыл бұрын
Linguistic shenanigans. If the opinions of the employees end up being the company policies they are indeed the policy’s and positions of John Deere. However as a general statement “The views and opinions…” cop out is still true as a general statement.
@Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too
Жыл бұрын
With a ton put on necessarily. Once Deere was a honoroble company. Today it's a den of psychopaths.
@tayzonday
Жыл бұрын
They’re guilty like a Deere caught in headlights 🥁
@reddragon4482
Жыл бұрын
lol. I wouldn't stop or slow down, I'd speed up.
@MasonSchmidgall
Жыл бұрын
Yo crossover episode
@ns13355
Жыл бұрын
Chocolate rain
@I_AM_BAYTOR
Жыл бұрын
TShirtHell has a nice "Nothing runs like a _eere" shirt.
@MBarberfan4life
Жыл бұрын
lol
@WarPigstheHun
Жыл бұрын
I am very alarmed how little we use our anti trust laws
@wetguavass
Жыл бұрын
we use our anti distrust laws
@jwmustang1
10 ай бұрын
It’s because politicians are paid off
@mikemorr100
Жыл бұрын
Deere's internal response to this will not be to stop being anti-competitive. It will be to train their dealers to be better liars. No way that's not how they proceed. Which should tell you everything you need to know about modern corporate business practices.
@jjk2one
Жыл бұрын
It's ancient the god Hermes
@320iSTWEdition
Жыл бұрын
That ain't "modern corporate practices"...... this has been going on for decades!
@RockinRobbins13
Жыл бұрын
@@320iSTWEdition They aren't lying, it's just modern corporate practices! /s
@320iSTWEdition
Жыл бұрын
@@RockinRobbins13 What? You make no sense, stop taking drugs.... i NEVER even MENTIONED the word "lie"!
@russellsprout7480
Жыл бұрын
@@320iSTWEdition /s means sarcasm. They were agreeing with you if I understand correctly :)
@HKlink
Жыл бұрын
John Deere is not a company that exists to help farmers do their job, that's just a side effect of selling tractors that they'd probably love to get rid of if they could. John Deere is just a company that separates farmers from their money at any cost. Remember when companies actually competed on having the best product for the best price? I miss those times, thank you for doing your part to bringing it back.
@bigjohn2811
Жыл бұрын
Who would've thought a New York City boy would be one of the biggest supporters of the farmers. It shows that people of different backgrounds can come together to fight against the wrongs of the world.
@cymes82
Жыл бұрын
Supporting farmers is kind of a no-brainer. These people grow your food and I personally don't like starving.
@JonBrase
Жыл бұрын
For techies, it's a matter of having had to deal with this for years in our own industry (if not as badly given that we're more informed to push back), and this sort of thing happening anywhere is seen as a threat to our ability to truly own the tools of our trade.
@TheBackyardChemist
Жыл бұрын
NAND flash is witchcraft to most people, but cars, tractors and farming is at least somewhat more relatable for the public.
@Demopans5990
Жыл бұрын
@@cymes82 Also, they have it hard as is. I may not agree politically with typical farmers being a city boy, but we can at least agree that if we brought it with our money, it is ours, and not some company's. If Mojang wants to dictate what is in the server I host on my hardware, they better subsidize my operating costs for the trouble
@josephfilm73
Жыл бұрын
What happens in one indusry often bleeds over into another. And people who know/work with computers often have the best platform to voice their concerns because they are comfortable using the tools of cyberspace.
@mechminded2207
Жыл бұрын
If farmers have high bills, not only do we risk losing them, and food security, the price of all food goes up for everyone. Farmers are the backbone of humanity.
@jonathonedmonds7346
Жыл бұрын
Not only that agriculture and civilization have been hand in hand since the dawn of humanity. It is when farmers began growing surplus food consistently that modern society was able to form.
@thedodorex7612
Жыл бұрын
@hunterham9414that’s a sign of abundance. The fact that you were able to make that response that I’m responding to requires a computational device that requires a number of components I can’t even name requires people who’s job isn’t food production. Just a simple observation. (To clarify I’m agreeing with you, just irritated from the mess I just heard)
@MrTheHillfolk
Жыл бұрын
Save for a couple nickels or so, farmers get about the same money for their milk as they did in the 80s. I grew up next to a dairy farm and that's been a craw in their side for 40yrs.
@timothyblazer1749
Жыл бұрын
Mahindra is an option for farmers. No BS, and simple machines.
@chadcoady9025
Жыл бұрын
@hunterham9414 on top of 50% of our food going to ethanol, 1/3rd of the US population is overweight and eats far more than they need. Most corn products go to unhealthy junk food, and our tax dollars not only subsidize junk food, it also subsidizes ethanol, and also subsidizes factory farms of meat and chicken because they are fed corn and soy. Then we EXPORT tax payer subsidized products.
@ABarbershopBarber
Жыл бұрын
As always, being from Nebraska, i love how your movement is so multi faceted and how you didn’t stick only to computers. So awesome how you’ve affected Nebraska!
@someone2130
Жыл бұрын
Here here! Fellow Nebraskan here
@ABarbershopBarber
Жыл бұрын
@@someone2130 awesome! I’m originally from Crete but live in Omaha.
@joannleichliter4308
Жыл бұрын
Bennington, Nebraska here!
@derpzone7425
Жыл бұрын
@@ABarbershopBarbercoming for you
@ABarbershopBarber
Жыл бұрын
@@derpzone7425 ???
@CarnivoreRonin
Жыл бұрын
I grew up farming and John Deere was a respected brand that people were loyal to. Now, I'm a university professor teaching business technology, information assurance, data science etc. and they are completely corrupt. Wow, how things change. We need open-source and access to their APIs. The user community will create better solutions than they ever would.
@SLLabsKamilion
Жыл бұрын
Howdy! I work with Open Source™, and unfortunately, it will not help. Initially, there will be openness; but it always ends up devolving into a fork-fight with an open-core-going-closed model. It's not the license's fault, as it only kicks in for the briefest of moments during the transfer/act of copying. Once that's over with, the license vanishes into a poof of smoke, and all you have remaining is "No warranty expressed or implied." Not saying proprietary software is any better -- but what we actually need goes beyond just API and ABI, but into proper open-access, published, international specifications definition via a standards body like IEEE. The Standards Track process is what has kept the internet from falling apart into a lawless graveyard of geocities clones. Open source™ has it's place in protecting consumer rights; but until the license obligations are actually tested in a courtroom and result in a snowballing of case records that can be applied to other courtroom brawls, it's teeth are blunted. FOSS brings freedom, both libre and gratis, but that gratis part is the most problematic if nobody wants to scratch the itch without getting paid for it.
@mobilityproject3485
Жыл бұрын
They legally have to make their software open source, because it includes GNU licensed software.
@SLLabsKamilion
Жыл бұрын
@@mobilityproject3485 Ah, no, that's *not* how that works. They would have to if they *linked* to GPLv3 licensed libraries, but merely being distributed alongside existing GPL resources does not invoke the virality of the GPL, nor force any closed software to be opened. Again, the GPL only kicks in for the briefest of moments during transfer, then vanishes. It's not a USAGE license. It's a redistribution license.
@daedalus6433
7 ай бұрын
@@mobilityproject3485If the software has a copyleft license, yes
@duketogo2616
Жыл бұрын
John Deere is going to disavow and say that the statement by the guy at the booth doesn't represent their position then pivot to the exact language you outlined that they should have used in this video.
@GSBarlev
Жыл бұрын
Can't un-ring the bell, though. When JD breaks interop in the next update, it's no longer "pure paranoia" that it was done intentionally. And not only might this empower a friendly AG to subpoena their internal communications, but it might motivate (or shame) lawmakers to pass more stringent interoperability regulations.
@EnraEnerato
Жыл бұрын
@@GSBarlev It's almost a shame the FDA doesn't have engineers on call that work as moles for them, give them a protective statute of law that makes them untouchable by deers civil suits when they snitch on them after working a year or two as said mole for them and boom, they are caught so red handed their proverbial knife is still sticking in the victims back, with their hand on the handle.
@hawkticus_history_corner
Жыл бұрын
@@EnraEnerato If the proper authorities actually cared, they'd all follow the various Labor Boards who have hatchetmen inside of suspect companies. It worked fairly well
@EnraEnerato
Жыл бұрын
@@hawkticus_history_corner Well we know how the current FDA is run, no? Because I'm sure Louis has done more then enough reports on this matter...
@craigslist6988
Жыл бұрын
@@EnraEnerato they don't need spies. Lots of engineers and people working for these companies would be happy to spit roast them, as long as they received protection from retaliation. The problem is if you do that every company in the US owned by the billionaires who are yacht buddies with those behind JD will destroy your career. You'll find magically all HR software automatically removes applications. Who are you going to audit? The HR AI program? Hah. If there was competition in the US this wouldn't happen. If there was antitrust it wouldn't happen. If there were real whistlblower protections this wouldnt happen. The US has a LONG way to go to unwind what oligarchs have done. It's really about time the people of the US stop playing rigged games and purge the system, in a simple way. Confiscate all money and assets from any person or corporation that exceeds 100 million in value, redistribute all of it equally to every citizen by SSN. The billionaires always claim they can make it back anyway because they are so much better than everyone else. Treason with life imprisonment for any attempts to hide money or flee the country to evade this legislation. Zero tolerance.
@Funkylogic
Жыл бұрын
Just imagine the future if this is not dealt with. They disabled your airbags because the car detected a 3rd party set of roof racks.
@MrRolnicek
Жыл бұрын
It's actually SUPER common for criminals to brag about their crimes and how they got away with it. I heard it's one of the main reasons criminals get "caught" at all in many cases. It's human nature.
@lashlarue59
Жыл бұрын
I agree. There are all kinds of crimes that have been recorded using cell phone cameras and posted on Facebook and other social media. Some people just crave attention above all else.
@Kiyoone
Жыл бұрын
*"WE LIED, WE CHEATED, WE STOLE" - Mike Pompeo*
@FatfighterXD1
Жыл бұрын
Where's the crime?
@kitsunekaze93
Жыл бұрын
@@FatfighterXD1 deliberately applying changes for the sole reason of sabotaging competitors products, if it isnt illegal already, it should be ( if proven, like all crimes)
@dualshock3
Жыл бұрын
Yeah.. Reminds me of those dumb rappers who snitch on themselves on stage and get arrested afterwards LOL
@TheMsLourdes
Жыл бұрын
I've been at these kind of tradeshows as an exhibitor, and I can tell you that demonstrations and loose lips are everywhere. This is a prime environment for getting the straight dope from somebody. So Louis, take my advice here, send a couple people to these tradeshows, OPE/AG and CES etc, and just get the info you need, because you can. This is by no means an isolated incident.
@Apodictic1
Жыл бұрын
World Ag Expo in Tulare California is the largest Ag show in the world.
@rossmanngroup
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people often ask what my desired result is. Report them for doing something illegal. www.usa.gov/state-attorney-general
@4jonah
Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Add to the wiki a page that has all this info for each state so it's one click for users. I can help out something together. It's a tall order to tell someone to contact their state AG but simple if you give them the info they need up front
@mrhoogles
Жыл бұрын
man, we have a nice day, sunshine and everything is going well, no reason to talk about that... sure wish i could go back 30 years and go through that again.
@mrhoogles
Жыл бұрын
also, at least they didnt make a music video about it with a reese's coffee cup
@chell6022
Жыл бұрын
Sneed's feed and seed. God bless you, Rossman.
@tr1k716
Жыл бұрын
Lewis what he said was his opinion I Would wouldn't you that's not an admission
@SureWhyNot777
Жыл бұрын
We live in a world where aggressive salesmen have gone from lying to telling the truth.
@TheTemplaricKnight
6 ай бұрын
It's shocking isn't it
@morphine0000
Жыл бұрын
Can we appreciate the fact that that John Deere employee was, for a moment, actually _honest_?
@organiccold
Жыл бұрын
I bet he will be fired soon
@CommanderRiker0
Жыл бұрын
Problem is he was just a sales person who will say anything to discourage a sale from a competitor. He didn’t sound too bright
@aerodigital
Жыл бұрын
"antitrust doesn't exist anymore" is what I said just hours ago wondering the same thing. Back in the IE days, this shit was considered completely unacceptable and now no one bats an eye.
@ribertfranhanreagen9821
Жыл бұрын
It's not no one care. But no one have energy to care. Do you have energy to complain on bug corporate, whenever work double triple shift and barely cover your rent??
@dirg3music
Жыл бұрын
@@ribertfranhanreagen9821masterfully said, and this is absolutely by design. You can't fight for what's right when it takes all your energy to simply survive.
@dewfall56
Жыл бұрын
It all depends on if someone can make a lot of money doing it. If not, they don’t bother.
@Barskor1
Жыл бұрын
The legal status of corporations needs to end and reverted back to normal businesses that their owners are responsible for what they do.
@Glen0cide
Жыл бұрын
FUCK YEAH. I wish I could like this 10 times. Louis, I don't even live in the US (UK), but the work you are doing to support consumer rights will resonate with policy makers and increase awareness globally. From the bottom of my heart, Thank you for your tireless work in this field, you are truly making a difference, to people EVERYWHERE.
@raven4k998
Жыл бұрын
I love that I just told the john deer guy (to go fuck himself)🤣🤣🤣
@ffwast
Жыл бұрын
"Why wouldn't you?" Because I'm not a piece of shit.
@GetShwiftyInHere
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making Right to Repair a thing! I know it was a thing before but you're making sure it's known that it is a thing!
@lordmarshmal_0643
Жыл бұрын
Based pfp though lul
@GetShwiftyInHere
Жыл бұрын
@@lordmarshmal_0643 Excuse the lack of knowledge, what is pfp?
@Yewtewba
Жыл бұрын
@@GetShwiftyInHereprofile picture
@christopherleubner6633
Жыл бұрын
Yup you should 100% have the right to fix and repair anything you bought to basic functionality. The product lifetime enforcement is hot bull 💩
@jlight7346
Жыл бұрын
I love how the “I hope you learned something today” is like a direct statement to John Deere lol. Absolutely perfect delivery.
@4jonah
Жыл бұрын
Willing to bet JD is going to pull an HP and say "That employee at the booth representing us doesnt represent us."
@luigivincenz3843
Жыл бұрын
that's what on another thread I posted. HP got sued because of the "HP employee are his/her own opinions" defense. That don't fly.
@craigslist6988
Жыл бұрын
sadly. It's an easy case to make.. the sales guy is clearly just saying what he has seen them do, he's not privvy to actual knowledge that they do it. I don't get the excitement over 'catching' a sales guy spout something off. I mean it's maybe a nice clip for selling for RTR legislation, but legally I don't see how it could be used, but I'm NAL so idk. I don't know how I feel about the one thing I know it will do, which is ruin that sales guy's career... on the one hand he has no qualms working for a scummy company. On the other, his entire industry is working for scummy companies and he would have to gimp his entire career to avoid it. That's like being an engineer trying to avoid anything related to military... it's almost literally impossible.
@Placid_Falcon
Жыл бұрын
@@craigslist6988 "sounds like a sales guy" Exactly. This is a complete nothingburger. Salespeople occasionally deride their employer to sell their products. It builds rapport between them and the customer, because the customer feels like he's getting "insider information" to guide his decision making.
@radman999
Жыл бұрын
Easy defense. He is a third party contractor who was not authorized to speak on behalf of Deere. He might as well have been talking to the janitor.
@Bialy_1
Жыл бұрын
He is there working as a representation of the company... that confesion have a legitimate value in court and if Deere gonna make this move then the confesion will be priceless...
@kcgunesq
Жыл бұрын
@@Bialy_1 Third party or not, his exact job was to speak for the company.
@Premier-Media-Group
Жыл бұрын
Corporations, at their core, are PEOPLE. We NEED to call these evil people out... ...by name.... in the same breath as we identify the company. Otherwise these folks will have zero accountability for their despicable mindset.
@saturn5mtw567
Жыл бұрын
i dont think calling people out actually matters, if all you do is call them out. they'll just be like "Oh no, what a shame you hate us, too bad you have no options" what we need is **action**
@craigslist6988
Жыл бұрын
@@saturn5mtw567 it's a pipe dream but in theory you could call the individuals out and then other individuals could bleed them out by a thousand cuts. They go to get coffee and someone refuses to serve them, or if it's a starbucks and corporate insists they do, they take fifteen, twenty minutes to make it. When they go to hire personal staff like a driver, the drivers refuse because they take a risk of being found out to help this scumbag and then also get poor treatment by people. The problem is we live in an international world and so someone can always avoid this kind of social justice because they don't live in one place with the same people anymore. And I'm not sure social justice is always the best... that's how racism and prejudice function. But there has to eventually be some level of societal justice allowed. There should be something where if 2/3 of the US votes for it someone can be imprisoned for crimes against the national interests.
@lsswappedcessna
Жыл бұрын
@@saturn5mtw567 Thing is, they do have options. Both Kubota and AGCO (the company that now owns Allis-Chalmers and a bunch of other classic agricultural equipment brands) are far better about R2R than Deere. Not to mention, Kubota's newer tractors STILL use mostly mechanical components. My dad bought an LX2610 earlier this year and it still uses the same 3 cylinder mechanical indirect injection diesel engine they've used for decades. No SCR system (DEF), the only computerized component on it is the instrument cluster, it just works.
@joannleichliter4308
Жыл бұрын
@@lsswappedcessnaGood information. Thanks!
@battokizu
Жыл бұрын
@@lsswappedcessnathis needs to be at the top of every reply, stop talking about john deere and talk about companies that do what the farmers need. Stop thinking theres only one option when theres always something else.
@gmctech
Жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable how many BIG farmers in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia that have said fuckity bye to that overpriced dark green paint garbage and have gone to Massey Ferguson and/or Fendt tractors.
@jameshealan2881
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a farmer but I was shopping for a new riding lawnmower earlier this year and I just flat filtered out John Deere products when I was doing research. Lawnmowers aren't even affected by this crap (yet), but I'm not going to spend money with a company that acts like this.
@skeleton1765
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, at this point, the cheaper lawnmowers are just as good and use off-the-shelf parts.
@S_Roach
Жыл бұрын
A few years ago, my parents ended up with three different riding lawnmowers, all of a very similar age, that were nearly identical under the hood. One of those was green. I think the steering linkage was a little different.
@pdloder
Жыл бұрын
That's the way for people to make 'corporate' change fast - vote with your wallet - especially large farmers and contractors who are spending millions per year.
@neglectfulsausage7689
Жыл бұрын
Its not enough to be not John Deere. You must be actively anti-John Deere. Proselytize to the masses and get a large group of people to support you. A single person cornering you in a mall is a creep. A grou pfo people with signs and well spoken words is a persuasive role.
@skuula
Жыл бұрын
Haha I'll rather just push my mower than fix the rider all the time... :)
@hoffybeefe
Жыл бұрын
You're a dead set legend Louis. We need more people like you. Evil prevails when good men do nothing. And you ain't no good man... doing nothing!
@bigclint2487
Жыл бұрын
As a 5th gen farmer, we run kubotas. Its a Japanese tractor, and they will sell us anything we need to fix the tractor. That green paint is 60% more expensive for the parts for equipment that operates the same. When the dealer is willing to help you stay in bussines, you buy more equipment from them.
@wertywerrtyson5529
Жыл бұрын
Good to know not everyone is using John Deere. I am no farmer so I had to look up the statistics for my country of Sweden. It seems the Finish brand Valtra that bought up Volvo’s tractor division in the 80s used to be the biggest but John Deere is now the biggest with 27% of the market. Valtra is now second and after that it’s Massey Ferguson, New Holland, Fendt, Case IH, Claas, while Kubota is only at eight place. After that it’s Lovol, Deutz-Fahr, Branson, Zetor, McCormick so at least there seems to be plenty of choices for farmers. As a non farmer I’ve honestly never heard of anything but John Deere though except for Volvo BM that doesn’t exist anymore and Ford that also don’t seem to make tractors anymore. The only tractor I’ve ever driven was a Ford that a small farmer close to my grandpas house had and let me try.
@benjewmin2
Жыл бұрын
Truth be told, the salesmen isn't wrong. When a normal person is in the C-suite, and they had an option to mitigate competition by pressing a button... Most people would press that button... We need support from the public to pass laws to stop normal people corrupted by power.
@ethannelson8656
Жыл бұрын
"I've never worked on a farm in my life. I've never seen a farm in my life. I can't even keep my own house plants alive. They die after three weeks, and if they don't Mr. Clinton eats them." That was actually hilarious.
@davidh9638
Жыл бұрын
My dad grew up on a farm. He once told me, "No matter how frustrating engineering sometimes gets, it's better than farming."
@harrisongould9460
Жыл бұрын
Now that you're in Texas...take a drive north and visit your 'brother from another mother'. Take your show one the road. Love what you do...keep it coming.
@kevincozens6837
Жыл бұрын
With everything John Deere is doing it seems like a great opportunity for other farm equipment makers to cash in on the situation. Other companies should make their equipment in a way that makes it easy for farmers to do repairs then point that out in their product marketing. When JD starts losing some sales they may eventually take the hint.
@jhon-cg4rg
Жыл бұрын
Buy European and Asian equipment
@EFCasual
Жыл бұрын
Other companies join in just like others want to be apple.
@karlrovey
Жыл бұрын
You still have to get established in an area. Pretty much every farming region has a strong JD presence. Most will also have Case IH. If you're lucky, you have AGCO brands (which seem to be more friendly to third-party software) as an option.
@randomdeliveryguy
Жыл бұрын
And 5 years from now they turn into John Deere MK II just like every other company. I have no rights and I must repair.
@blahorgaslisk7763
Жыл бұрын
@@jhon-cg4rg I don't know enough to claim that European farming equipment is any better or worse. But looking at the car market it's the same here as in the US. So chances are that European farm equipment manufacturers are looking to John Deere as role models. It may be that the Asian market is the last bastion of simple machines that are easy to work on and that doesn't come with proprietary software intended to stop other manufacturers products from working.
@Adamantscaledragon
Жыл бұрын
This is part of why I love your content, excellent coverage on this Louis 👏 👌 They've gotten too comfortable with their bs and lies, crap practices, and purposful rigging. Good 👍
@ElementalMaker
Жыл бұрын
How do I go about buying Mr. Kenny a beer? What an absolute Chad
@WorldPowerLabs
Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a farmer. As many of his generation did, he repaired and maintained his own tractors and implements. He retired a decade before consumer GPS equipment existed, but he remained interested in farm technology for the rest of his life. He would have enjoyed following this fight. (He never was a Deere guy... mostly used Case/IH).
@tristan7216
Жыл бұрын
I suspect Deere's going to say that dealer wasn't speaking for the company, since he's not an executive and he used a lot of hypotheticals like "that's what I would do", and no specific examples of past conduct. They may be trained to talk like that, or the guy just doesn't know anything. We need to use the RICO standards on these companies, but that requires it to become a major political issues that legislators and white house can't ignore. Right now it's lowkey enough that they can take the money and not catch too much voter flak, thanks for working on that. Elizabeth Warren ran on issues adjacent to this, antitrust and such, unfortunately it didn't get her too far in the presidential race.
@Patrick-857
Жыл бұрын
Still, it causes public embarrassment, and it will be even more embarrassing if they come out with a statement that this isn't company policy, and then go ahead and do exactly the thing their rep was talking about.
@jb678901
Жыл бұрын
Warren was planted to run interference for these modern-day robber barons. She's part of the problem.
@davidjernigan7576
Жыл бұрын
There are more ag equipment manufacturers than John Deere. Stop buying Deere products
@averyplote7148
Жыл бұрын
As a farmer myself (we run mostly CaseIH equipment but also some Deere) I don't think the dealer himself was meaning anything malicious, and I doubt Deere corporate sent anything out to the dealers about the aftermarket receiver. He was just expressing what he was expecting to happen, which is unfortunately how it has been in the ag industry for a while now. At the end of the day though, you should still be able to use aftermarket electronics if such products exist, just like in cars or other industries. I'm hopeful that this aftermarket receiver is able to continue to have success and show that.
@ro_yo_mi
Жыл бұрын
They'll get fined for 1 million, but they'll earn 20 million.
@FreyasArts
Жыл бұрын
It already sucks for the average consumer not being able to really repair your own stuff, but when it comes to farmers and their equipment which breaks all the time, cause y'know, hard work, I think it becomes really nefarious. Especially when you consider that farmers are already struggling making a decent income while working their butts off
@LRM12o8
Жыл бұрын
Plus the fact that farmers can't wait several weeks or even MONTHS to get their equipment shipped to the manufacturer, repaired, and shipped back again. harvest season ain't waiting, repairs must be done on-site within or days at most! This shit could actually threaten the national food supply, if all manufacturers did this and enough farmers can't get their equipment fixed before the food rots on the fields!
@FreyasArts
Жыл бұрын
@@LRM12o8 yeah, if they aren't ready to provide a repair shop in pretty much every village, they shouldn't limit accessibility to repairing vital farm equipment. Just as ridiculous to ask for that as a consequence as what they're trying to do right now
@1800imawake
Жыл бұрын
So tired of what all these big corporations are doing. Their evil greed has no bounds and they act like people don't know they are secretly running everything from behind the curtain.
@tom.m
Жыл бұрын
Or, ruining everything. Shit like this is basically a threat to the nation. But who cares? Let's sell our children's future for a quick payday.
@reggie6230
Жыл бұрын
They know. They just don't care. Nobody can get close enough to woodchipper them.
@MaryJane-xn7jn
Жыл бұрын
Corporations don't control the security services or the various federal para militaries not even mentioning the police and armed forces. The corporations are globalist pawns nothing more.
@madhatterhillbilly4267
Жыл бұрын
Grew up on a farm, still live in the middle of farm country. John Deere green is the most expensive color to own imo. Most people also don't understand that if a tractor breaks down in the field and you can't fix it, you have to pay travel time or distance for the mechanic, which isn't cheap, plus about 1.5x the mechanic shop rate of a town shop. Parts are ridiculous after spending hundreds of thousands to purchase.
@theemperorofmankind5079
Жыл бұрын
DEAR LOUIS! plz read.... You are officially THE UK's Highest referenced fact finder on the mis-doings of big tech. TV channel news here is sitting your work, other youtubers site your work, WELL DONE - all your hard effort is not gong to waste!! no joke man, you need to start a BRAND - 'LOUIS APPROVED'' - i see that logo i'll know i can get it fixed the right way!!! Here's you wings Protector of the People! Time to fly All hail me Long Live me!
@ComradYeltsin
Жыл бұрын
I don't watch every video, not even close, and we don't see eye to eye on everything, but holy hannah is this a perfect example of why I stay subbed and supportive of your work. Keep it up, same to the person in the clip you played!
@rossmanngroup
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@AshnSilvercorp
Жыл бұрын
All of the following companies probably say this in their offices (I wish this was a common satire meme format): Microsoft: _We see another company using a browser other than ours. Screw it. We'll rewrite a bunch of our first party programs to point to Edge when you click on a link._ Google: _We see another company making an android rom better than ours. Screw it. We'll secretly tell companies to lock their bootloaders, helping us and them with earning royalties._ Apple: _We see another company keeping our products alive longer than Apple Care does. Screw it. We'll double down on serializing our parts so only we can repair correctly._
@feldegast
Жыл бұрын
Microsoft did the same thing with sabotaging DR DOS by stopping Windows 3.11 from running on it
@reav3rtm
Жыл бұрын
And by tainting ACPI to make in difficult to implement on other OS-es. Gates testified for this.
@kenneth-benjamingardner4208
Жыл бұрын
"They're going to stalk you to a corn field and turn you into a scarecrow" -Louis Rossmann -anti scarecrow association
@squidcaps4308
Жыл бұрын
lol, that is just a salesman. Not the smoking gun. You need a CEO to say that, someone much higher up. They can easily just say "that dealer didn't know what he was talking about" and then say how he doesn't even work for John Deere but is an affiliate.
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9809
Жыл бұрын
Apple, Google, John Deere and a bunch of others: **openly engages in massively anti-competitive behavior on a daily basis** FTC: "I know, we'll sue Microsoft to stop them from buying COD!"
@tegandetermann3299
Жыл бұрын
Because Microsoft and ABK were getting press. The news ignores the more egregious companies.
@Redhotsmasher
Жыл бұрын
You're saying that like MS haven't done the same thing historically.
@tegandetermann3299
Жыл бұрын
@@Redhotsmasher Yes, but the FTC didn't go after them for those.
@Bobshnogen
Жыл бұрын
Don't worry Disney will buy COD... laff...
@bootmii98
Жыл бұрын
@@tegandetermann3299 DoJ on the other hand...
@JamesHalfHorse
Жыл бұрын
I am a farmer too and we don't need stuff like this happening. We have to be able to work on our own equipment. Nothing else to say. To do our jobs we have to be able to fix that stuff. The ones I follow on youtube that are now taking over the family farms are tech savy people and want to use that tech on the farm. If they have the tools they can do it.
@An_Attempt
Жыл бұрын
When hard times come, and they always come, everyone must be able to repair the tools for their trade.
@randybugger3006
Жыл бұрын
You're not a farmer. Farmers wear $3000 suits and sit in air conditioned offices in Miami now. I'm not saying you don't work in agriculture, I'm saying that even if you're still working now, you won't be soon. That's the goal. Some fat rich bastard in downtown OKC will soon be the "farmer" and guys like you will be their contractually obligated employees and the consumer will eat nothing but poison. I'm honestly surprised more actual farmers aren't taking extreme measures. Don't believe me? Ask the nearest chicken farmer how he's getting along.
@MonkeyJedi99
Жыл бұрын
What kind of BS is Deere feeding farmers? A subscription does not impact the clarity of a GPS satellite signal!
@MonkeyJedi99
Жыл бұрын
@@kruleworld It can be difficult to make a stand when you're 2-5 years into the payment plan on a machine that costs hundreds fo thousands of dollars and the company turns and stabs you in the back. There's also a lot of laziness of habit, and probably some issues with easily accessing competing platforms (Case, IH, Cat/Challenger, Mahindra, etc.)
@JamesHalfHorse
Жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 This You explained a lot of it. Some farms are Deer and have been that way for decades. While a lot of implements are universal mounting getting new equipment set up for it, relearning how it operates, etc it's not often easy to switch a brand. Even my little tractor yeah the 3 point on the back is universal but the implements that go on the loader arent so I had to buy some new stuff. Scale that up to stuff that costs well into the 6 figures for big production farm equipment for farmers who are rich on paper but it is all tied up and are a bad harvest away from losing their ass most of the time. In that light downed equipment, waiting for it to be repaired or having to find something else during harvest hurts can be devastating. I am not in that game anymore but plenty of farm channels out there I mentioned before and they talk about these things. A lot of them young and taking over the family farm wanting to modernize and I wish them the best. Not an easy road and just glad there are people still willing to walk it.
@BabyJesus66
Жыл бұрын
While Im glad that guy was recorded saying that, I dont think he should have confronted him or told him he was being recorded... he shoulda saved it for the courtroom. Now every sketchy Deere employee who sees this will know to keep quiet.
@itrytobeanonymoustoo5289
Жыл бұрын
We need an overarching anti-trust statute separating software from all other goods and services. That would prevent companies from requiring subscriptions to repair or maintain physical products
@gnostic-wolf
Жыл бұрын
I agree, but it's about as likely to happen as abolishing "intellectual" property rights, which is what really needs to happen, because it violates your actual property rights. Anyone should be able to make and sell anything if they own the materials to do so. Everything is built off existing technologies, and from basic physics, there is always a most efficient way to do something. If u can "own" the most efficient way of doing something, then u have an effective monopoly. Inventions are in essence discoveries, and discoveries belong to everyone. Corporations shouldn't be able to "own" a tool design, a plan, a schematic, or a collection of ones and zeros. The idea that u can own an idea is an idea that noone should possess.
@SergeantExtreme
Жыл бұрын
@@gnostic-wolf This is a completely brain dead take on the situation. You may be a worthless burger flipper at McDonalds, but Engineer's work their butts off pulling long 12-hour days to make inventions that become patented. They DESERVE their legal monopoly for the hard work they put into inventing new technologies alone! Now I know you've never done a single ounce of real work in all of your entire life, so you don't know what hard work is, but trust me: when you work hard for something, you deserve to reap the profits.
@happygarage6310
Жыл бұрын
You've taken very important steps to keep right to repair alive. What john deere has done to the agriculture industry is appalling, they need to be put in place. It's not enough that they are one of few manufacturers who make what they make, they've been forcing customers to pay for these subscriptions an updates, even making what should be a field repair a dealer only operation for decades.
@TheGelatinousSnake
Жыл бұрын
“You would do crime” “Hell yeah, why wouldn’t they, I would!”😊
@Nobody-Nowhere-USA
Жыл бұрын
To be up front and honest I don’t often find a city boy I like or value! You sir are changing that horrible attitude of mine, thank you so very much for helping not just farmers but all of America! Please keep fighting and holding these corrupt people and companies accountable! God bless you!
@maiyannah
Жыл бұрын
"A cockring should never be a subscription" - Louis Rossman, 2023
@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r
Жыл бұрын
That isn't just right to repair that's price fixing.
@TestECull
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what CaseNH, Mahinda, Kubota, etc are all doing while John Deer is catching all the shit for their bullshit. The money is there to be made and I wouldn't put it past the other players in that game to be like 'Oh well JD's got everyone distracted let's do the same shit without anyone noticing'.
@Poldovico
Жыл бұрын
Maybe. Or maybe it's "everyone's looking out for this shit because of John Deere, let's look for a different way to make money".
@TestECull
Жыл бұрын
@@Poldovico That's implying corporations have ethics and morals. they don't. The only thing their competitors are doing regarding this is trying to see how they can do the same exact shit WITHOUT getting caught. They've all seen how lucrative this business model is since video gaming went down this same path 15 years ago and nobody fought it, cat's out of the bag as it were, it's only a matter of time. Car companies, too. BMW, Tesla, Toyota already experimenting with it. Detroit, Bavaria, Tokyo are all watching VERY CLOSELY at how JD gets through this backlash because they've already laid the foundations, built the walls, wired everything, and are sitting there ready to flip the switch on the worst monetization scheme to ever happen to physical goods.
@michaelhathorus4859
Жыл бұрын
Hey Louis! Haven't really commented on your videos but one thing I will say is that you are an awesome person and I'm glad you're exposing all this corporate corruption and congressional collusion!
@xanthippus9079
Жыл бұрын
As the competence crisis spreads, it's easier to find imbeciles in prestigious positions. It could also be a case of hubris from the lack of consequence. Just like the favourite child is not bothered by their parents' presence when bullying their siblings.
@guguigugu
Жыл бұрын
we have been selecting for this throughout the last 50 years. we allowed corporations to completely take over our politics and culture in the name of profit.
@mariokarter13
Жыл бұрын
Once a corporation gets to a certain size they cease to be a capitalistic endeavor. Because instead of actually competing with their competition they get the government to do it for them.
@elfwizardofchaos
Жыл бұрын
This is why I avoided John Deer and went with Yanmar I can work on my own tractor and put any third party parts I want on it. Most people I recommend to avoid John Deer but they have so much representation in the market most people don't know other tractor companies are out there.
@NateHenry12
Жыл бұрын
Rossman is like, "Nice anti-consumer monopoly you've got there. Shame if something happened to it...." 🤣
@bearparts
Жыл бұрын
It's not just JD doing this, ALL vehicles now need updates regularly at the DEALER to run properly. Including most FARM equipment.
@gustaveliasson5395
Жыл бұрын
6:42 Doesn't Kevin know that it's rude to interrupt the enemy while they're making mistakes?
@MoparNewport
Жыл бұрын
With respect Louis: "Never interrupt the enemy when he's making a mistake ". ;)
@raysoucie489
Жыл бұрын
I am very good friends with Mozilla Marc,the guy that created and wrote Firefox....Also ,I plan on interviewing a few more Local Farmers in Colorado...Stay tuned
@brantmacga
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the Agra GPS receiver for about 6/mo. I’m located in Georgia, but am able to connect to the Florida DOT PRN network for free as they have some base stations near me in South Georgia. I’m getting 0.6” repeatable accuracy and paying Deere zero dollars. My dad is really worried Deere is going to somehow lock it out. If we get 3 years of use out of this Agra GPS, it will have paid for itself In subscription fees. I’ve been telling other farmers about it but they all have the same concerns about Deere somehow disabling it.
@rustyspurproductions
Жыл бұрын
Bought a Gator from John Deere. It took them 6 months to deliver it. When they did, the electronics malfunctioned within a month and the brakes squealed from day 1. They kept it for nearly 2 months to fix all these issues. When I got it back absolutely nothing they were supposed to do was "fixed". It went back in for another 6 weeks and once I got it back, the "repairs" lasted about a week. To this day, it still has all the same issues. I will NEVE buy another John Deere.
@captgeoff0713
Жыл бұрын
Louis, you give me hope for the future. Very few people can do that. I am an advocate for GPL and FOSS software like GNU/Linux, that is my pride and joy. Thank you for everything you do, I will continue to try and spread awareness of the right to repair movement to as many people as I can in my personal life.
@MrFoxRox
Жыл бұрын
Harley Davidson does the same kind of nonsense with a "special" warranty scam. I think both companies are involved in litigation for being dishonest.
@KenGud
Жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm as always
@PsRohrbaugh
Жыл бұрын
Large, legacy companies waste INSANE amounts of money on inefficiency. They HAVE to price gouge in order to stay afloat. Our economy is fucked.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
Жыл бұрын
John Deere will be running faster than a dear to change their statement once the backlash happens. ummm, akshually we meant that we talented and respect competition ackshually.
@daves9172
Жыл бұрын
That beginning Microsoft piece, finally someone said it, thank you Louis.
@trikstari7687
Жыл бұрын
The problem is that the company will get fined, instead of investigated and members of the board of directors thrown in jail for ten years. Maybe have a couple of their most recent patents invalidated permanently. Make those patents public domain against the companies will. Either of those would do infinitely more than a simple fine they won't care about in the slightest.
@An_Attempt
Жыл бұрын
Oh, that is a fantastic idea. Make the antitrust punishment the invalidation of all the company's IP; that idea sounds fantastic. Imagine that happening to Google or Disney.
@ContagiousRepublic
Жыл бұрын
For the 2025's nobel price for economc sciences, I nominate Louis Rossmann for solving 1% of world hunger and increasing prosperity and life expectancy worldwide!! He prevented DRM-crippled hardware from slowing farming equipment repair to the point of randomly ruining small farmers!!!
@daviddavidson2357
Жыл бұрын
Sad to hear that Louis took his own life a few months from now. Srsly, stay safe bro.
@DerTechNick
Жыл бұрын
huh?
@QargZer
Жыл бұрын
@@DerTechNick a lot of people that go against the machine randomly "self delete" with no warning under circumstances that make no sense. It's a dark joke about someone targeting him
@DerTechNick
Жыл бұрын
@@QargZerok. yeah I guessed something like that... but he's not in russia in some high position where people constantly die under mysterious circumstances
@ThyTrueNightmare
Жыл бұрын
"Why wouldn't you rewrite the code to prevent 3rd party" because that would be illegal. Or at least it would be if the law actually cared about upholding its own law
@JoeSmith-cy9wj
Жыл бұрын
P.S. There are many small boat autopilot systems which can probably be retrofitted to tractors fairly easily. Just connect to the hydraulic steering. They come with GPS and displays.
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