John Milbank. Wow, you guys have top quality guests! This is such a great topic. On the one hand, I do feel like an overextension of Promethianism is a danger. However, I am also critical of reactionaries (I'm not just talking political here), the modern day Minniver Cheevys, who want stasis and who do not want humans to be what they are, as Milbank says, "poets". Would be great to have him and James Tunney on at the same time!
@garychartier8365
Жыл бұрын
John is always stimulating and provocative.
@阳明子
Жыл бұрын
I was worried this was gonna be an April Fool's joke!
@MrHwaynefair
Жыл бұрын
This was an immense treat! “Incarnation is an eternal fact in excess of its occasion” 58:21 That one observation was alone worth the two times (so far) I listened to this…. Thanks for sharing these riches with us!
@matthiasmuller7677
4 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Unfortunately Milbank's books all seem to be quite expensive.
@MourningTalkShow
10 ай бұрын
Holy shit this dude is so on point. "The church at once is something real and embodied in ritual more primarily than institutional (yet also in institutional forms) and yet it is something that extends beyond that. Not just that it's invisible but that its more concrete manifestations have not been recognized."
@garychartier8365
Жыл бұрын
Love the insight (cp. John 1) encapsulated in "Everything is a revelation."
@MalachiSpring-s1t
11 күн бұрын
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@Durziage
Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for another wonderful podcast, these are so valuable. The part that begins around 56:27 made me think of this passage: "All the contingent 'abasements' of God in the economy of salvation are forever included and outstripped in the eternal event of Love. And so what, in the temporal economy, appears as the (most real) suffering of the Cross is only the manifestation of the (Trinitarian) Eucharist of the Son: he will forever be the slain Lamb, on the throne of the Father's glory, and his Eucharist -- the Body shared out, the Blood poured forth -- will never be abolished, since the Eucharist it is which must gather all creation into his body. What the Father has given, he will never take back." Hans Urs von Balthasar, in the Preface to "Mysterium Paschale"
@christopherroberts7472
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic conversation!
@regenerationmikesauterandm7748
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. He's so insightful on everything that comes up!
@jacobjones921
Жыл бұрын
Mike Sauter, just so you know every time you move or fidget your mike is picking it up, you might play with your mike settings some, it would cut out a lot of background noise.
@vincentshemwell8521
Жыл бұрын
this is great
@john7137
Жыл бұрын
Such a helpful conversation
@regenerationmikesauterandm7748
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@estateestate5486
Жыл бұрын
sound is always very low (Host's side of it) here and in other solo videos as well.
@tomek9401
Жыл бұрын
Great discussion. Is there any essays/books that expand upon the Balthasar's promethean idea? I could not quite pick up the title that John is recommending during the conversation.
@JakeLindqvist
Жыл бұрын
There was some name dropping happening, which I would like someone to open up a bit.
@regenerationmikesauterandm7748
Жыл бұрын
It's a weakness that we should address in the description section, I've been told. Are their certain names we can help pinpoint, describe, or unpack?
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