help us to be responsible Lord and to submit not just to you but to the people you have put in charge over us
@marcusburnett7225
3 жыл бұрын
To not submit to authority is to open the door for even more differences. Thus unity will never exist. We find people who do not know how to study the Word, interpret the Word, nor live the Word. To encourage people to lean to their own understanding is heresy at best. Decently and in order is the word of the day!
@AnHebrewChild
3 жыл бұрын
Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. _But it shall not be so among you:_ but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. - IMMANUEL But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; _and all ye are brethren._ - GOD WITH US
@purpleXpotion
Жыл бұрын
There is multiple scripture which documents the righteous challenging of authority. • Israelites vs. King of Heshbon • 3 guys vs. King Nebuchadnezzar‘s arrogant statue worship mandate. • The lions den •Etc. There is freedom through Christ to judge for _ourselves_ what is right. (Evidenced by following scripture.) Luke 12:54-59 (54) He said to the crowd: “When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, ‘It’s going to rain,’ and it does. (55) And when the south wind blows, you say, ‘It’s going to be hot,’ and it is. (56) Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don’t know how to interpret this present time? (57) “Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right? (58) As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate, try hard to be reconciled on the way, or your adversary may drag you off to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. (59) I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.”
@aonewatchman
7 жыл бұрын
Dear Pilgrim - God talks directly to believers today through “the anointing!” (1 John 2: 27) says, “As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.” NOTE - (see Acts 2: 38) to learn how one obtains the anointing! Pilgrim - the Bible tells us that in the 1st Century - Apostles appointed elders/leaders with divine authority called “Apostolic Authority.” (Acts 14:23) says, “Paul and Barnabas appointed elders for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, committed them to the Lord, in whom they had put their trust.” Also, in the 1st Century, the Apostles appointed elders indirectly by delegated authority to “mini-apostles” like Paul did to Titus. Paul says in (Titus 1:5) - “The reason I left you (Titus) in Crete was that you might put in order what was left unfinished and appoint elders in every town, as I directed you.” Thus, an Apostle’s Apostolic authority was necessary for Scriptural elder/leader selection in the 1st Century but the Bible does not say How elders are to be selected after the passing of the Apostles and their Apostolic Authority! Here are some unanswered questions about the selection of elder/leaders: Pilgrim - Who nominates elders/leaders today and how are they placed on the ballot? Who then is allowed to vote for the nominees, is it just men, men and women or everyone including children? Also, must the winner have a majority, a plurality or must it be unanimous? Is there a set term for an elder/leader? If so, how long is that term? How can elders/leaders be removed? Once again (if it is by vote) must there be a majority, a plurality or must it be unanimous? Does anyone oversee the elder/leaders? If so, who evaluate elder/leaders and how is this done? Are there yearly or periodic report cards? What if an elder’s wife dies - must the elder step down? And, what if an elder refuse to step down, etc., etc.??? Pilgrim, if “God is Not the author of chaos or confusion but of peace in all the churches of the saints” (1 Corinthians 14:33) … Then … Why all this chaos and confusion Today … What could be the answer? Pilgrim - Before you learn the answer, you must first understand the problem! The problem today is that there are now over 44,000 different Christian church denominations (i.e. each with their own “traditions of men” selecting elders and making leadership choices) BUT the fact that God’s Holy Spirit can only Scripturally dwell in God’s one true church - DICTATES that There can be NO Scriptural elders/leaders today in churches! Pilgrim - The Fact is that even though the 1st Century (corporate) assembly (i.e. with elders as the vehicle to instruct/lead Believers to God’s Will) ended with the death of the last Apostle …All is not lost! Paul says in (1Corinthians 13:10-12) - “but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. 11 When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.” Note - The promised “perfect” that Paul speaks of “to know God fully” as “God knows us fully” must be accessed on this side, since All Scripture says we only have our lifetime in which to come “to know God fully.” Upon death, our fate is sealed; all that we have thought, said and done while in the body is then judged against the Word of God. Pilgrim - Here are the events that occurred at the end of the 1st Century that necessitated God’s giving of “the perfect:” #l). All Apostles had died and so died “Apostolic Authority” (i.e. the Holy Spirit inspired Apostles’ instruction to the church), #2). All things Israel were destroyed including the Temple and tribal lineage records which thus officially ended the Old Testament Covenant, #3). The New Testament Covenant began fully when the Holy Spirit was given to the Gentiles, #4). The churches became Worldlier, so much so, that the Apostles had to write 29 epistles (i.e. letters of correction and instruction) to help the churches and #5). By Circa 70 A.D. the Bible Canon was complete; the Holy Spirit NOW spiritually anoints each Baptized Believer so they can understand God’s completed Word and Will in the Bible. PILGRIM - GOD'S COMPLETED BIBLE CANON CIRCA 70 A.D. IS THE "PERFECT" Pilgrim listen again to today’s Scripture wherein the Apostle John explains the importance of God’s Holy Spirit that indwells the Believer at adult full immersion Baptism so as to personally instruct him. Pilgrim: “As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.” (1 John 2: 27) THEREFORE - Pilgrim - Get “the anointing” to know God fully while there is still time! “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.” (2 Corinthians 5:10) SUMMATION - Pilgrim - Nowhere in the Bible does it sanction the selection of elders/leaders today to corporately instruct or lead members in understanding how to be saved. A personal relationship with Jesus is what saves us; we obtain that personal relationship at our Baptism’s “anointing” when we receive “the gift of the Holy Spirit” who assists us in Believing and Obeying with Love and Perseverance without “adding to or subtracting from The Word of God.” Pilgrim - When you go to Bible …. You go to God’s church! Respectfully submitted as my Scriptural understanding; I share with you what His Spirit has shared with my spirit. Pilgrim - Remember, always “test the spirits” (i.e. the traditions of men) against the Spirit and Word of God (1 John 4:1). A watchman of His Word.
@jacobcarroll8181
6 жыл бұрын
turn to Christ and forsake your sins
@JonathanGrandt
4 жыл бұрын
Jake Carroll you first hehe.
@steelmilkjug
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the Annointing I received when I was Born of God, who also gave me Tongues and Discerning Spirits, who is the Spirit Christ, the Word of God whom I seek to obey, also sent me to the Elders of the Body of Christ in obedience to His Word in James 5, to receive the anointing with oil in Jesus name and the prayer of Faith to be healed of mental illness. So now I am in subjection to the Elders in the Body of Christ who are in subjection to Christ. If they disobey Christ, I will still seek to obey Him, but as they are obeying Christ, I will be obeying them, and I know that I have an unction from the Holy One, and I have no need of anyone to teach me because God teaches me about all things, by His Holy Spirit. But while that Spirit says "be in subjection" I will be, by God's Grace. And so will be the Elders of the Body of Christ by the Grace of God.
@childofthemosthigh4100
3 жыл бұрын
Peter Brian are you saying the position of the elder in the body of Christ has been done away with and you now just go straight to the Father, with no elders, no shepherds, and no leaders?
@aonewatchman
3 жыл бұрын
@@steelmilkjug Dear Confused Pilgrim Jon Mathews ... And I believe all you said is made up in your head. Acts 2:38 explains what one must do to receive forgiveness of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. This is the "anointing" that is being spoken of in (1 John 2:27). What I just quoted to you is the Word of God. The church Scriptural/Biblically defined are individuals who Believe and Obey in Love and Perseverance the Word of God without "adding or subtracting" from the Word of God. Your so-called elders have nothing to do God's real True church. They are simply men following the traditions of men. After the Perfect came (i.e. the completed Bible Canon ... see 1 Corinthians 13:10) we now go to the Completed Bible Canon to be taught ... no longer to the "traditions of men" in Worldly assemblies! Did you know there are now over 44,000 different Christian church denominations now? I go to Bible ... I don't go to church!
@pookey4eva
4 жыл бұрын
Run to the Father. Good shepherd's don't lord any thing over their flock. If anyone stresses their need to remind you of their position of authority over you while discounting the love that Christ stands for well you may need to start a home church with your family. Were partakers with Christ remember! It's like they think the bible is above flesh and blood. Not offending the bible but I thought God requires mercy over sacrafice.
@aonewatchman
3 жыл бұрын
Dear Pilgrim pookeyreva ... Ecclesiastes 12:13 "Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind."
@JonathanGrandt
4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Calvinist pastors constantly find things that are supposedly “implied” in scripture. Let me tell ya, any time a pastor pulls out Hebrews 13:17... run.
@lorenarmstrong2007
4 жыл бұрын
Run to who? Wolves in sheep's clothing? Old Testament had priests as spiritual authorities, the New Testament has Elders/Pastor's. Run to a Pastor, that is worthy to obey spiritually, pertaining to a church, or be in sin. No other options in the Bible! You are wrong!
@caramarcus2264
2 жыл бұрын
I think the main idea is knowing who is in biblical authority over you and that authority know who they have authority over. Without somehow knowing that it makes it very difficult for a lot of the NT church structural passages to effectively play out. Think of it this way: what if you had a room full of kids who were to be divided between two teachers. There has to be a way that the kids know who is their teacher and the teach knows who are their students.
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