My biggest advice is that they tread carefully with the dynamics of their relationship. Like Grace said, Harley is not the Joker's equal. The relationship is toxic where Harley tries to make him happy and he'll reward her with sprinkles of affection. Don't overplay nor downplay the abuse but find a balance. Suicide Squad never sparked the right tone of the relationship which was a let down.
@rashveei
7 жыл бұрын
This. This is the most crucial thing for this movie. I completely agree with you.
@boomstickcritique902
7 жыл бұрын
They had to cut the abuse from the first film.With this after the fan reaction to suicide squad we will get the abuse.They wont try to make Harley Jokers equal the reason that line was in the movie was because they were afraid of getting backlash because of Joker abusing her.But since the fans got upset over it they will back track an bring more of the abuse in.
@Urban_King1
7 жыл бұрын
Suicide Squad should've been Joker v Taskforce X. The relationship between Harley and the Joker should've been explored in a stand alone movie, kinda like Logan.
@Breething11
7 жыл бұрын
My only major suggestion would be to not glorify their relationship. Too many people already see them as relationship goals because the don't understand the severely unbalanced and unheathly aspects of their relationship. I want a movie whete you can enjoy their weird mad love for each other but still understand that this is not a good relationship for Harley.
@MrMpa31
7 жыл бұрын
Who sees them as their relationship goals?
@Urban_King1
7 жыл бұрын
PumpkinsnBlackcats They gotta learn somehow.
@thetrustysidekick3013
7 жыл бұрын
I mean where would you go with a Harley and Joker movie anyway? The only fun thing I can think of is them doing heists together in an Italian Job type movie but with Joker and Harley. Even then the script has to focus on fun and not on edgy, brooding and dark characters because these two characters are insane, so they don't take anything seriously.
@datbitchkeepingitreal6712
7 жыл бұрын
MrMpa31 not everyone wanna see the Good o'boring couples, There's a reason why it's called MadLove people don't see them as relationship goals, we just love two psychos in love that either one can crack & doesn't give a fuck Ride or die time Yeah their relationship is Abuses but there is also Love,Hate,Funny,BadAss moments, Harley just as crazier as the joker There was plenty of times Harley beats the shit out of joker & pointed a gun at him & make out afterwards,
@LongdownConker
7 жыл бұрын
The thing is the film seemed to give them a totally different relationship than what was in the comics etc, so who knows where they will go with them. But I cant see them doing the abusive thing because that could be distasteful and then y would you route for them. In suicide squad I found myself routing for them to be together, it was one of the few things that drew me in, but if they go the abusive route then I wont wona see stories about their so called love. It might only work if its actually either a love story or about her leaving him. Remember they are trying to appeal to everyone, not just comic fans, therefore sometimes you hav to change things.
@blurry_bandit1890
7 жыл бұрын
How about they stop announcing all these future projects and focus on the current ones
@willisjhonson5973
7 жыл бұрын
this is coming in 2018 my friend
@GrizzleyBruin
7 жыл бұрын
@Oli: If they stopped announcing them, how would they gauge the reaction by the fans to see if they should commit to them or not?
@thomasmees393
7 жыл бұрын
GrizzleyBruin dude
@TerrellAustin1994
7 жыл бұрын
Oli Sykes agreed
@TJUC123
7 жыл бұрын
Oli Sykes Because that's what all studios do. It's not like WB are the only people who announce future projects all the time.
@tarafarrell46
7 жыл бұрын
I was disappointed to hear Gotham City Sirens was being pushed aside for a Joker & Harley movie but now I realised it will be better in that order. In J&H we can see fully their relationship and the break down of that relationship which will lead to GSC as Harley finds Ivy and Catwoman as she strikes out on her own. But please God get rid of Ayer.
@billyc5228
7 жыл бұрын
Tara Farrell Amen to that! 🙏🏻
@boomstickcritique902
7 жыл бұрын
They wont break them up I thought they would an even if they do they will get back together.With this movie coming the relationship can only go one way.They know there popular together with female fans there gonna milk them as a couple.
@paytonv8315
7 жыл бұрын
Tara Farrell Hes good at producing. He made great makeup and clothes for the suicide squad.
@outcastpov9366
7 жыл бұрын
Tara Farrell If J&H rlly ends with them breaking up and H hooking up with the sirens, Imma be depressed af
@mk6rfc1
7 жыл бұрын
Plus the way SS ended, it makes sense to do J&H first
@isaacharing
7 жыл бұрын
I just hope they realise how smart both the Joker and Harley Quinn are. They play all dazed and crazy, but you can be sure they have a plan or trap. So I would play up the tricks they do.
@sefiperi1500
7 жыл бұрын
I think the best thing to do is to combine Mad Love and Gotham City Sirens. You start with Mad Love, about 30 mins of Joker & Harley's abusive relationship, and at one point she decided to leave (or partly forced to leave, as she is pushed out a window). That's when she finds Ivy, who becomes friends with her and pumps her up., and later the two find Catwoman, and form the Sirens. Somehow the three get to a situation where they fight for Penguin against Black Mask, but Harley gets to a life dangering situation, that Joker rescues her from. Ivy and Catwoman find out the epidamy of Joker and Harley's relationship, and go to rescue her. They succeed, and they part ways - Catwoman returns to her life in the streets of Gotham, and Harley goes to live with Ivy, only to be arrested with her and brought to Belle Reeve (leading to Suicide Squad 2).
@ellieclaromorales
7 жыл бұрын
Sefi Peri Yes!!!!!!!! But I would like for Harley and Ivy to fight because she keeps talking about the joker and she leaves her and Harley meets CW and the three take out a army of men and the joker and penguin and two face and riddler lol
@TheUnstoppableBar
7 жыл бұрын
Sefi Peri I actually really love this idea. Except for the part where he saves her. I think it should be like the comics where he kidnaps her and ivy & catwoman come for the rescue. This actually could be a very interesting story.
@_just_me_1553
7 жыл бұрын
Best idea yet
@ammerry3805
7 жыл бұрын
I think that's really it from the very first bigenning and reporters got everything wrong from a hole new prespective ! I mean, remember when Matt Reeves said that the batman movie will be a stand alone film with no cameos and they thought it isn't part of the DCEU. I thing it's the same thing here !
@Sjono
7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the Joker and Harley Quinn movie is coming along faster in production than the Flash movie 😂
@tarafarrell46
7 жыл бұрын
Sjono And the Batman and Man of Steel 2
@boomstickcritique902
7 жыл бұрын
Only because there taking time with Batman because hes the biggest comic book character of all time.And the script is being redone from scratch lol.With this there gonna fast track because Harley an Joker were the most popular aspect of Suicide Squad with teens an young adults.There gonna milk it.
@lawrencejelsma3937
7 жыл бұрын
Sjono ... lol 😂 "Maybe the Flash is outta energy!? Maybe he should drink some J. juice!!" Why don't movie studios get TV studios to make movies ... FASTER!!???" 🤔
@TheUnstoppableBar
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah unfortunately
@garnetfire8628
7 жыл бұрын
All I want is Poison Ivy in the DCEU!!
@utuberzanz
7 жыл бұрын
I think Grace can honestly play the role of Joker and Harley's third wheel
@ryanplatts4663
7 жыл бұрын
Takes place after SS when Joker broke Harley out of prison. Have the main characters be Joker and Harley but have he villain be Batman. Have Joker use Harley to get away and then Harley is pressured by Batman to "get" the Joker but she gives him the run around to keep Joker safe. Harley sets up Batman and Joker and Harley get away thinking they won the fight....until you find out Batman takes down both of them and they share cells right next to each other in Arkham.
@ellieclaromorales
7 жыл бұрын
Ryan Platts Eh bring in ivy and they fuck but then ivy leaves her because she keeps taking about joker seems much better and somehow CW comes in and almost kills the joker and leaves him permanent scars lmao
@TheUnstoppableBar
7 жыл бұрын
Ryan Platts I think the movie needs to lead to Harley's next movie which is Gotham City Sirens where she's not longer with the joker and is partnering with poison ivy and catwoman....
@je2409
7 жыл бұрын
I think out of all of these Joker or Harley movies coming, I'm looking forward to Gotham City Sirens the most tbh
@TheUnstoppableBar
7 жыл бұрын
Jay Ren all the fans do but the dumbasses in WB decided to push it back for this movie smh they obviously do it only because the general public who watched suicide squad loves them together. The general public makes them more money which is why they don't give a shit about the fans's opinions
@danblaster578
7 жыл бұрын
I just hope they establish that this relationship is not a healthy one, it's an abusive relationship which I unfortunately do not believe was successfully portrayed to general audiences in suicide squad. Fans familiar with the comics know the history but I saw a lot of people saying I love Harley and joker together as a couple but you are supposed to feel sorry for her. Also I hope Harley has some good lines like she has in injustice 2 maybe some hyenas.
@mr.k2085
7 жыл бұрын
danblaster 82 I hope people would understand that this is NOT the Joker and Harley from the comics so it does not need to be abusive. Keep the love aspect as it actually makes the characters interesting. An abusive Joker (new 52) is not a good character nor interesting in anyway. And a Harley without Joker is an absolute bore. Keep the Bonnie and Clyde aspect and it will be perfect
@markcarver4995
7 жыл бұрын
Billinare 88 Im pretty sure the Joker has ALWAYS been abusive towards Harley, not just new 52, that's been the premise of their relationship since the Bruce Timm Paul Dini days I'm pretty sure
@thetrustysidekick3013
7 жыл бұрын
It's not abusive, just a relationship between two insane people. To even come up with a script to depict such a thing like it was presented in Suicide Squad is a ticket to sucksville. Better if they focused on the two doing fun things like robbing banks, and just running around doing criminal shit in a sort of Bonnie and Clyde movie but with crazy, homicidal people. Make it fun, because the Joker and Harley, they don't take things seriously, everything's a joke to them.
@ClayMann
7 жыл бұрын
you've completely misunderstood who Harley Quinn is Asmodeus. Harley and Joker can never be like Bonnie and Clyde and should never be. The Joker is a twisted freak of a thing that just wants to watch the world burn because its pretty when it all burns. He's got more layers but he's basically a homicidal maniac genius with daddy issues. Harley is supposed to be a smart doctor that got a little too close to the Joker. You can't suddenly have the Joker be a nice guy with Harley because they're meant to be together. That's so wrong I'd refuse to watch such nonsense. Harley doesn't love the Joker, she's just been twisted into thinking she does and to do that the Joker broke her mentally. She is a tragic character and shows perfectly how the Joker deals with what he encounters. There's maybe some insane version of love between them but its utterly corrupted and broken... As it should be.
@TJUC123
7 жыл бұрын
It's still not a healthy relationship. But it doesn't seem very abusive. They should have just used Ayer's original cut in theater's.
@bluerocket5094
7 жыл бұрын
batman- Sam Heaghan, Riddler- Jim Carrey, Joker- David Tennant, Harlie Quinn- Kimberley Crossman, Mr Freeze- Jack Coleman
@he.smile_
7 жыл бұрын
I think someone at Warner Bros renamed the "Brainstorm Session Ideas" folder for "Movie Slate"...
@BeyondTheTrailer
7 жыл бұрын
lolz :)
@fourth1000
7 жыл бұрын
"David ayer does not get these characters." I like that Harley wants to be normal with the joker. It makes it such a distant goal for her to impossibly fight through to achieve.
@mcsisawesome
7 жыл бұрын
I think Harley already had the gymnastic ability in Suicide Squad. It was demonstrated in multiple scenes and even in her way of fighting.
@gabbatimestyle
7 жыл бұрын
All good idea Grace love it. Especially the Poison Ivy cameo
@bailorgana4597
7 жыл бұрын
Do some more DCEU Fancasts for these upcoming movies
@drukkarination2270
7 жыл бұрын
"harley quinn does not want to be normal with the joker" THANK GOD YOU SAID THIS. ITS SO TRUE DAVID AYER DOESNT GET THEM AT ALL
@rayg2724
7 жыл бұрын
Love your channel, Grace!!:) really enjoying your Box Office analysis videos.
@keithgerholt7320
7 жыл бұрын
Grace do you know when you will be seeing IT and when you will be reviewing it via social media?
@dusthymn8187
7 жыл бұрын
I think Alexandra Breckinridge would be a phenomenal Poison Ivy, she nailed the redhead seductress role in American Horror Story season 1, Id love to see her go back to that kind of role.
@MrOrstone
7 жыл бұрын
A live reality show where harley & Mr. J show gotham and batman all the crazy thing they do across the city? Sign me in.
@oto946
7 жыл бұрын
I need to see ivy as soon as possible
@brianmendoza1473
7 жыл бұрын
They just need that sicotic relationship. Gotham city sirens needs to happen. Grace, love your videos.
@briquinn6967
7 жыл бұрын
I agree just make mad love if they mess this up I don't know if I can forgive DC
@fourth1000
7 жыл бұрын
My suggestion: A trilogy: 1) Mad love- which ends with Harley leaving joker because of his violence. 2) Killing joke- which ends with Batgirl getting paralyzed 3) Killing joke 2- batgirl makes a comeback ala kill bill style but she can't find the joker so she request help from Harley who has an equal bone to pick with the clown in a pseudo team up with some other female heroes/villains.
@lindo-geng7083
7 жыл бұрын
She basically pointed out all the problems I had with the movie and the characters. I still love them thou lol 😂
@blackflagsnroses6013
7 жыл бұрын
Leto's Joker just needs a chance to shine in a better story.
@michaelh5688
7 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure WB is planning to release this film on Valentine's Day, 2020 because they already have an untitled project scheduled for that date so why not have a movie about mad love displayed that day?
@MrJake4400
7 жыл бұрын
DC has so much awesome characters
@johnwilson8482
7 жыл бұрын
At first, I wasn't very excited about this project, but here's my pitch: make Batman a horror movie "villain." After all, the "Bat" was intended to elicit fear in criminals, right? Let the viewers have a taste of him in that role. Thus, NEVER show Batman's investigation; only show Batman when he jumps out of the shadows and starts pummeling people. Use Harley as the POV character/protagonist, and make Batman the clear antagonist - although viewers will know he is the "good guy," they'll almost cheer against him because he is standing in the way of Harley's happy ending. The Joker can still be a true "villain"/bad guy, but imagine seeing Batman suddenly appear and start beating the crap out of the Joker - from Harley's perspective. The audience would be a little torn. Yes, the Joker needs to be stopped, but we usually want things to work out for the protagonist. Then, imagine a scene where Bruce Wayne shows up somewhere. The audience wouldn't know if that is by accident, or if Batman knows what's up and has laid a trap. Otherwise, I don't ever want to see a scene from Batman's perspective. If they even show him at a crime scene picking up a clue, I want it to be the toe of a boot emerging from the shadows, and a glove reaching down. Show as little of him as possible. Make him like Jaws - he comes out of nowhere, he's fast and vicious, creating havoc and terror for Harley and the Joker. Yeah, that's my pitch - make Batman into a horror villain.
@Triggermatic87
7 жыл бұрын
Looking lovely, Grace
@jakeaustin3585
7 жыл бұрын
Joker and Harley movie is Gotham City Sirens!!!!
@Mailed-Knight
7 жыл бұрын
I hate love triangles, when Teen Titans 2003 avoided doing it with Beast Boy, Raven and Terra I signed in relief!
@ryanjstannard
7 жыл бұрын
POISON IVY NEEDS TO BE IN THE MOVIE
@willpu
7 жыл бұрын
im done!! im just done !!!! this is what i call " lack of a plan"
@MrMpa31
7 жыл бұрын
No you're not, you'll keep clicking.
@abramnicolesarmiento2238
7 жыл бұрын
"This is us" has the best pilot i've seen in years
@morganclarke9284
7 жыл бұрын
I don't think you give Margot Robbie enough credit. I think she is a fantastic actress and a great Harley, the problem was in the writing, not Margot's deliverance.
@IshtiaqAhmadDurjoy
7 жыл бұрын
WB, you guys wanna make a movie with Joker and Harley! Make Death in the family! Joker, Harley, Batman and Jason Todd. BOOM!
@AnnaBellaChannel
7 жыл бұрын
Ishtiaq Ahmad and have Jason Todd's Robin accidently cause Harley Quinn to miscarry her and Joker's twins! Perfect!
@LordStickMax
7 жыл бұрын
i hope "Joker & Harley" is basically a movie version of the "harley & ivy" episode of the batman the animated series. they start in love, ivy is introduced as a friend and sets up gotham city sirens.
@KreativeKill
7 жыл бұрын
i know its panned across the globe, but will u review valerian? and do you think China can save it?
@wildevil
7 жыл бұрын
I want a Joker & Harley Christmas special and album.
@Nightengale90
7 жыл бұрын
'This is Us', is a WONDERFUL show! I have never seen any of the other stuff by them. I would LOVE to see Mad Love with plenty of Poison Ivy in it
@cameronreid1296
7 жыл бұрын
Grace Randolph for head of the DC cinematic universe!
@Thewhitequeen0
7 жыл бұрын
Does Harley really not want to be normal? I always felt like a tragic trait to her character was that she had wanted an ideal, normal relationship with the Joker, but knew that she would never get it because of who he was, and that her own opportunity to reintegrate to society, because of how her time with the Joker had changed and scarred her, would never happen even if she tried. Even a joke movie like Batman and Harley Quinn seemed to somewhat suggest this with the way her life was depicted past her criminal days with Joker. But then again, I don't read comics that often, so what do I know.
@shaunaflynn4027
7 жыл бұрын
totally agree with your ideas
@alliecruz8750
7 жыл бұрын
I think warner bros isn't doing it for the fans at this point, their doing it for the films people are going to go watch. Like a lot of people went to go see suicide squad but didn't even know who Harley Quinn was, they just thought she was a cool character. And the joker is iconic. So of course everyone is going to go see this movie, comic book fan or not.
@markcarver4995
7 жыл бұрын
Grace, I cant believe you don't like the current suicide squad comic, I love it! I think out of the three series since 2011, it's definitely the best, and I loved the Burning Down the House storyline that came out recently. I think Harley is being given a really interesting arc of grief atm and I just think in general the books are well written. I can't say anything about the Harley Quinn solo series currently, but when Conner and Palmiotti first came onto the book they were really good, so I'd trust them
@abdullahsaad4627
7 жыл бұрын
Spot on as always grace. Awesome job!
@TJUC123
7 жыл бұрын
Waller said Harley is crazier than the Joker, which she is. But there are many types of crazy.
@JFryeTheGuy
7 жыл бұрын
Warner Bros needs to keep Bruce Timm and his sticky pencils away from this movie 😭😂
@mr.k2085
7 жыл бұрын
Jordan Frye Amen to that 😂
@dundundundun8816
7 жыл бұрын
I'm hearing a lot of different things, some people are saying this Joker and Harley movie is actually Gotham City Sirens and some reports are just mistaken, while others are saying the two movies are separate. I hope the former is true. What if Gotham City Sirens were to begin with the great Mad Love scene where Harley attempts to kill Batman for the Joker, only for her actions to infuriate him resulting in him knocking her out a window (Batfleck can finally meet Leto's Joker). Harley is apprehended by police and ends up in Arkham Asylum, where she realizes how far she has fallen, from psychiatrist to patient. After being screwed over in some way by the Gotham City kingpin Black Mask, Catwoman breaks Harley and Poison Ivy out of Arkham so they can assist her in her plan to rob all of the City's biggest mobsters in one night; Black Mask, the Penguin and the Joker. So, the movie is basically about the three girls working together and finding their places in the world along the way, while the Joker is on their tale, attempting to kill Harley for revenge in different ways throughout the movie. Thoughts?
@frank91171369
7 жыл бұрын
Crazy stupid love is way funnier than I love you Philip Morrison, the twist at the end was Also one of the most unexpected
@staredwards268
7 жыл бұрын
Have they started filming any DC movies beyond Aquaman?
@Kayoss13212
7 жыл бұрын
Lol. Pretty soon even Jim Gordon and Alfred are each gonna get their own movie.
@Sjono
7 жыл бұрын
If there's something that the DCCU can say that the MCU still can't is that it has an Academy Award Winning movie 😂
@DaaaaaapleSmit
7 жыл бұрын
That vision Harley had wasn't the future, it was what she truly wants. Something that supports this is the fact that Deadshot doesn't shoot Batman, it's just what he truly wants.
@Hulavuta
7 жыл бұрын
She was saying that that *isn't* what Harley truly wants. She wants to be married with the Joker and have a family, yeah, but she wants a crazy family. In that fantasy, she is a normal housewife with a normal baby and The Joker is cured, no whiteface or green hair, etc.
@BrunoStierli
7 жыл бұрын
I totally agree Grace! Good points
@comicsfan6278
7 жыл бұрын
According to Leto, the majority of his antics on and off set were exaggerated.
@rurutuM
7 жыл бұрын
I DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS. Give me Green Lantern or Martian Manhunter
@TerrellAustin1994
7 жыл бұрын
rurutu M me too
@shanedaley6236
7 жыл бұрын
Same I want manhunter to have his own movie and I've never seen joker or Harley as the stars in a movie that is always Batman so a joker origin and joker Harley movies just seem odd to me there's such better things they could be doing for movies maybe even a hawk man hawk girl movie
@royceeapen
7 жыл бұрын
shane daley i dlnt martian manhunter would havs his own film
@mymakeupnonsense
7 жыл бұрын
Omg A J'onn J'onns movie would be amazing. He's one of my fav super heroes
@shanedaley6236
7 жыл бұрын
Jane Ships ya he needs his own movie he was one of the best parts of the justice league cartoon
@anamount701
7 жыл бұрын
Grace, I was going to comment on another video about Harley but this seems to be a better place because Paul Dini has been co-writing the Harley Loves Joker back up and Brett Blevins doing the art in issues 17-25 of the recent Harley Quinn comic. The story will be getting a continuation in Harley Loves Joker specials coming next year. Have you read the back up series? Is the portrayal of Harley and Joker and their relationship much more to your perception of the characters and their relationship? I don't collect the Harley comic regularly but found this story much more to how I view the characters and their relationship as seen BTAS because of Paul Dini.
@falconflockfoundation3348
7 жыл бұрын
WB... Where is Man of Steel two?
@99lodewijk
7 жыл бұрын
Falcon Flock Foundation it is in development! .... Hell
@mk6rfc1
7 жыл бұрын
I hope that they are secretly working on it under the books until JL come out and after that they'll say they have been working on it cos Supes will be alive, otherwise we ain't getting this any time soon in the next decade with the amount of films they keep announcing
@PawsitivelyMegandGinny
7 жыл бұрын
I disagree, Grace, that Harley is not Joker's equal. Even in Mad Love, Joker is angry at Harley because she's the one who figures out how to make the piranhas appear to laugh. It's also quite evident in "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" in which Joker decides to kill Harley because his minions begin liking her leadership too much. In fact, I think that would be a great story to integrate into the Joker/Harley movie as well because it would add another dynamic to their relationship. Plus that comic also includes a Poison Ivy cameo.
@KrisKrisKrissy
7 жыл бұрын
Something they did in Suicide Squad (theatrical cut) that I thought was interesting was Harley being "crazier" than the Joker. It's not that they're equals (or it shouldn't be), but he molded her into this crazy plaything. He's unhinged and dangerous, but she's legitimately mental. He does care for her in this version, but he still has all the power and it's still an abusive relationship. The dynamic was a bit unclear, but that's what I took out of it. Different than other versions, but still interesting. I wish they'd develop that more.
@billyc5228
7 жыл бұрын
PandaKris I dunno, I personally think it just came from Ayer only really knowing the New 52 Harley where she seems crazier than Joker. But their relationship cannot work with Joker caring for her if their isn't that underlying layer of abusiveness. Swap out either or but not both, it robs them of so much that makes them the characters they are. Still if you enjoy it that's fine, I'm a bit of a purist
@KrisKrisKrissy
7 жыл бұрын
I love the original story for their relationship, and I agree it's better than what they did in Suicide Squad, but I found some of the ideas interesting. If they are going to mix it up and stick with THESE versions of the characters, I think they can make it work. They need to play up the abuse angle, but it's a different type of abuse. This seems almost like a gangster frankenstein who made a monster (by manipulation and torture) to keep him company. They played up the "romance" of it, but there it's still a twisted story of abuse. If they play up what he did to her for the f*cked up thing it is, I think it could be cool.
@foxglove427
7 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos! But this review was so accurate exactly what all the fans want to see. I couldn't agree more with everything you said!
@harleyqueen1182
7 жыл бұрын
I feel like at this point we can't really go back to mad I love origin story because we are we have had the new 52 version of Harley Quinn's Origins it would be cool if they could play off of it and add a whole lot more of stuff like all that we seen in Suicide Squad doesn't cover all that happens for like Arkham Asylum being made into a movie as far as the costumes go I feel like we need to go back to the Arkham games and the jester suit I feel like she shouldn't have the new 52 look until she becomes her own person considering she is not away from the Joker entirely the yet
@rodrilover17
7 жыл бұрын
Grace once you have seen and reviewed it do you think you could make a video about who you think should be cast as the adult roles. I hear Jessica chastain is who they are trying to get for older Beverly that sounds like pretty good casting to me but what are your thoughts
@rcharron515
7 жыл бұрын
When you're that one person that isn't into Harley and Joker's relationship, and would much rather see a movie focusing heavily on the dynamics and surreal connection between Joker and Batman instead. Sigh
@johnnietorch1598
7 жыл бұрын
Great video, Grace. I pretty much agree across the board except, no Poison Ivy. Save her for Sirens or whatever. I just want Harley & Mr J for this one.
@BuGGy2DaB
7 жыл бұрын
Grace can be my harley quinn
@lawrencejelsma3937
7 жыл бұрын
Jun3Buggy ... No! Put on a Batgirl costume and she could be "the blonde decoy" with the mask off ... and then "red hair" with the mask on! She has a longer face bone structure rather than "Margot Robbie's round" facial structure that matches the cartoon or comic "Harley Quinn!"
@KingBlandyn
7 жыл бұрын
I just don't want a censored Joker and Harley.
@TJUC123
7 жыл бұрын
I still see most of the movie as the fault of WB. Remember, this isn't Ayer's original cut. Not even close. After the comments about BvS being too dark, WB did reshoots and completely changed up the movie. I still want my Ayer cut.
Did everyone just forget about the Harley Quinn *vs* The Joker movie that WB announced at Comic-Con? It makes actually 4 movies with these characters. It might have transformed into this Harley & Joker movie but if that's the case, why did they announced it again?
@yellowman5942
7 жыл бұрын
The reason Waller said that is because Harley is crazy for of the Joker. And there's no length she won't go two impress him. But I see where you're coming from and I somewhat agree
@amaliasilva5003
7 жыл бұрын
"most enigmatic" i just thought of the riddler
@DaleyDale
7 жыл бұрын
If Gaga indeed turn out to play Poison Ivy... it will be good for Jared Leto because they have chemistry together. Because Jared leto courted Gaga years ago... he was madly obsessed with her. I heard they went out for a little bit.
@alucardbloodyvampire6066
7 жыл бұрын
I also hope they keep "Gotham's Bonny and Clyde" angle and let both of them be actual villains not anti-heroes, that was kind of the only unique element of Suicide Squad and has lots of potential for a stand alone movie. And before you start "abusing relationship in the comic..." remember several things: 1. They're not real people. 2. Comic Book movies aren't PSAs 3.Most of the current CB movies change up relationships like Starlord isn't son of a celestial, Spider-man isn't Ironman's fanboy, Black Widow doesn't love Hulk etc
@brg9327
7 жыл бұрын
Great list Grace, I agree with all of it.
@Dom_510
7 жыл бұрын
why is everyone complaining about the other universe they're doing. it's actually like the comics. the DCEU is their main universe and this other universe with the joker movie is gonna be like a Elseworlds universe. and they can even call the movies in the Elseworld universe " Elseworlds: Joker movie, or whatever the title is. and we can get good story's that they can't adapt in the DCEU like superman red son and batman gotham by gaslight. and then after flashpoint that universe even though it will appear that it is gone can still be lingering in the background after Barry fixes the timeline. and then after all the DCEU and the Elseworld universes get established they can do a 2 part Infinite Crisis movie. so calm down everyone, Mr. Johns knows what he's doing
@bluetextbooks
7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. 3 movies a piece for each is way too much!
@westiekid8400
7 жыл бұрын
I love your channel grace!
@TheAngelazo
7 жыл бұрын
Ok Warner, but give us this movie in 2018 for having at least 2 movies next year.
@joxl7185
7 жыл бұрын
I'm down for a Poison Ivy Cameo 🙌🏻
@BatFan1
7 жыл бұрын
If any movie deserves to be dark AF it's this Joker & Harley movie. I hope it plays out as some psychological drama/suspense horror movie. Forget about making them funny, make them scary, Joker especially. Yes he should deliver a funny line every now and then but lets not forget that Joker is beyond insane and Jack Torrence crazy times a million. In other words make the movie creepy/scary, not an summer action blockbuster.
@jlemaire22
7 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how everyone can criticize Jared Leto's joker with just 5 minutes of airtime.
@Nicole-wq7rd
7 жыл бұрын
Damn.Screen junkies says that they don't want to see Mad Love but Grace says otherwise.Don't know who to root for.
@stevevondoom4140
7 жыл бұрын
i kinda agree, that GCS jumps out at me more than SS2 really...
@pmdoyle55
7 жыл бұрын
Harley Quinn needs her own movie as she steals the show. Joker while being great villain minus Jared Leto Joker could have an appearance but not be in the lead but have minor role.
@skullninjaraptor
7 жыл бұрын
I Love You Phillip Morris was great!!
@EvanSol919
7 жыл бұрын
WB can't seem to make up their minds about the DC slate - Matt Reeves new Batman trilogy! Nightwing and Batgirl films! Deadshot! Justice League Dark! Flashpoint! Black Adam! Where does it end? Who's the one making the decisions as to what is and is not being made?
@batconnoisseur6615
7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the whole DCEU should just watch Batman TAS, Justice League and Justice League Unlimited. Then these actors/directors/ filmmakers in general will have the correct inspiration.
@bernierivera-bruno1618
7 жыл бұрын
They should keep announcing movies and then sending them to Hollywood limbo, it keeps us entertained.
@liamsouther9542
7 жыл бұрын
Bella Thorne for Poison Ivy in DCEU
@dcmkplays8743
7 жыл бұрын
Flynn Souther best choice ever
@NoWay1969
7 жыл бұрын
Bruce Tim and Paul Dini pretty much did what DC/Warner said they wanted in the cinematic universe. The animated shows were noirish and dark, but they stayed comic booky in a good way. How do you nail it, and then drop the bar so badly when you go to live action?
@kc1278
7 жыл бұрын
oke so this is what gotham cirty sirens should have: 1. it should have mad love in it 2. it should have something dark to it i mean there villians they are bad the need to kill at least a few innocent cops or people etc to let the oddience know they are not good 3. it should have a sort of romance between harley and ivy 4. catwoman and ivy should be two very powerfuo womand 5. there should be a shoping scene in it. in BTAS ivy and harley went shoping and it was beloved by everyone i have alot more even a good story and i can write it down but i need to know if people like it!
@AnnaBellaChannel
7 жыл бұрын
Finally about time! I love Mad Love it should have been made 1st. I think if you don't have an equal Harley Quinn and Joker it will struggle to be realistic story live action wise because why would the Joker pick a women whom he didn't think was his equal? I know he's a nutter but he does have logic.
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