It's hard to find compact NAS case for microATX motherboard, and this case is just perfect size. The white NAS case might be a good candidate to upgrade my Fractal Node804.
@craigd9305
2 ай бұрын
I put together a media pc for my mom in the Node 804 case.. it would be nice for a small nas, but I agree that this case's size looks really nice for the situation. The Node 804 is quite big in comparison.
@fauzanmuharram4202
2 ай бұрын
may you need N5 model that the upgrade of N3, it will have better airflow and support until atx motherboard
@seoulglo1999
2 ай бұрын
Full ATX N5 coming soon! kzitem.info/news/bejne/uoF6yIGLm6SGko4
@BenState
24 күн бұрын
yeah, you lose 2 drive spaces and need a new psu to accommodate.
@PlayingItWrong
2 ай бұрын
N4 is one of my favourite cases nas or otherwise in a long time. It's real party trick? I mounted an 180mm fan to the roof of the case with a fan removed Thermalright AXP90-X53 (snug). I then ducted off the case ceiling with black electrical tape and mounted the fan with some foam between it and the case and mounted the fan with rubber fan mounting "screws" to cut vibrations.
@empedance1933
2 ай бұрын
That's awesome! As I was watching the video I was pondering whether there would be enough height between the top of the motherboard rear io and the top of the case to do that. What are the rest of the PC parts are you running in it?
@PlayingItWrong
2 ай бұрын
@@empedance1933 I passed down an matx motherboard and a i5-4690K that was retired from a gaming system, so, plenty of pcie gen 3 lanes, but I dont really have a plan for them right now outside of maybe a 25GbE nertwork card and some NVME storage if i decide these hard drives are too slow. And a titanium sfx-l power supply suggested by the power efficency list on "wulfgang's channel", an overspend but i intend the psu to be used for a long time. It's going to continue getting my gaming systems cast offs as and when I upgrade, so the case, drives and PSU were my only direct expense.
@pyroslev
2 ай бұрын
I built a NAS for someone else in the N1 and it was a good case. This is a nice evolution of that idea to allow an mATX board. (My current NAS is an old Corsair Air A240 with four 10 TB drives using an Erying board)
@kylosalvesen
2 ай бұрын
That "Low profile" overdubbing has to be the most seamless one I`ve ever heard. I could not tell that it was added in post at all :D
@nadtz
2 ай бұрын
The N4 funky 4x2x2 layout makes it an odd duck but the upcoming N5 could be very interesting.
@gordonblank6845
2 ай бұрын
looking forward to the new N5 case!
@espressomatic
2 ай бұрын
All drives can be pulled - the ones on the right just come out with a cable - make sure they're long enough and you can "hot swap" those drives. "Hot Swap" isn't a case feature, it's a controller and software feature. I put a 3.5" floppy drive on the right side (for some retro VMs) along with a combo USB+SD panel below it, which don't have to come out. Boot drive below that.
@Housestationlive
2 ай бұрын
i'm an huge fan of jonsbo for years, i imported lot of their cases from asian marketplaces. i'm glad they're turning international.
@TechOverwrite
2 ай бұрын
That looks like a perfect case for a NAS build actually, great rundown of it 👍
@mikedoth
2 ай бұрын
The N5 looks sick, i'm waiting for that one.
@Housestationlive
2 ай бұрын
i think the 2.5 ports are dedicated for system, where you can also have redundancy because 2 bays, maybve using raid 1, and because it's flash drive the time between issue won't require to open the case every day, while 100% of your storage/backup is probably meant to be done on HDDs.
@ofacesig
2 ай бұрын
The reasons you mentioned about cards is, while an AMD fan, I usually use Intel T series chips for my appliances. They always have integrated graphics, have a 35W tdp max, and their primary PCI-E slot is 16x. All awesome features for an appliance build.
@SpoonHurler
2 ай бұрын
This has been my complaint too but the non F AM5 chips all have integrated graphics so that is great moving forward
@b0ne91
2 ай бұрын
Fyi T chips aren't more efficient, just more expensive and have a lower power limit. You can just enter the BIOS and set the power limit on any regular old non-T equivalent.
@b0ne91
2 ай бұрын
@@SpoonHurler The real problem is the h264 encoder for AMD is ass (on lower bitrates). Even Nvidia isn't anywhere close to competing with QuickSync.
@SpoonHurler
2 ай бұрын
@@b0ne91 true but you get AV1 encoding which can do 8k30 or better with little/ no stuttering and low noise... I don't disagree that right now Intel is the better low budget, just pointing out that moving forward this has a chance to change
@b0ne91
2 ай бұрын
@@SpoonHurler I think Intel's next iGPU should see AV1 encoding as well. The Arc A310 already does a phenomenal job at it right now and some mobile CPUs can do it already. Not that you'd ever want to encode anything in AV1 using hardware. Software encodes are the way to go for retaining quality and there's basically no reason to live-transcode your media to AV1 - most times you'd need low bandwidth encodes on the go you'd be on a phone, where virtually no current device supports AV1 decode
@Housestationlive
2 ай бұрын
this is probabaly the case i would recommand to my customers if i had a pc store. you can have a decent amount of power, the cleverest case design i've seen for a long time, especially the hot swappable hdd is something i'm hardly looking for, i purchased the air carbide 240 ffrom 10 yhears old because the newer version don't feature the hot swappable hard drives.
@apricreed9580
2 ай бұрын
I just got a simple NAS for my home setup, but I will keep this case in mind for my future expansion, for now asustor nas works but when I need more speed I might need this.
@theorganizationXII
24 күн бұрын
Great video! any hope for a review of the silverstone CS 382 too?
@johngonzalez9621
2 ай бұрын
Looks great! Reminds me of the fractal terra
@davidg5898
2 ай бұрын
I like Jonsbo a lot, but think they missed the mark with the N4. (I have an N2 and was considering an N3 but it's too tall for the nook I need my NAS to fit in.) It's not convenient as an 8-bay NAS because 4 of the drives don't use a backplane. But it's also not great as a something like game server because you're stuck having to use half-height cards, which somewhat undermines part of the point of getting an mATX board.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
2 ай бұрын
This case is a downgrade from the N3 IMO. You had 8 hot swap drives on the N3, it supports full height cards...Even the N2 has more hot swap bays than this at 5. The N5 is the true upgrade. It supports full ATX boards with full height slots, has 8 hot swap bays and 4 fixed.
@mraljewari9381
12 күн бұрын
Agreed. Im not sure why anyone would buy the n4
@itstomatopuree
12 күн бұрын
You can only get 1 pcie slot for the n3 thats why
@mraljewari9381
12 күн бұрын
@@itstomatopuree search sagittarius nas case on youtube. You will find everything you are looking for
@helljester8097
2 ай бұрын
Nice, I managed to get a used ASUS am5 business board to work with eec memory and slapped that in a black n4. Also went with Unraid to use some old drives from a synology nas that was just too old for what I wanted to do. If you ever make a folllow up video with a focus on software and use cases I’d be keen to see it!
@kiresedivaneb
3 күн бұрын
Hi CJ, do you think it would be possible to fit a full or slim size Blu-Ray drive in the non-hotswappable 3.5 in bays? It looks like it could be done by deleting some of the rivets holding the rails in place on the extreme right side of the case. Perhaps by deleting the 2.5 in bays if the SFX PSU is short enough?
@Uberragen21
2 ай бұрын
For the price of the Ryzen 3 3300x CPU + GPU, you could have used a Ryzen 5 8500G (with the iGPU) and gone with a single PCIe for expanded SATA ports.
@ElevatedSystems
2 ай бұрын
The 8500G is an AM5 CPU and it doesn’t support ECC memory.
@tommsla123
2 ай бұрын
This is the best NAS Case
@HaimPeretz
2 ай бұрын
Wait to the N5 or go with the N3
@IMDee
2 ай бұрын
Hi @ElevatedSystems. Thanks for the detailed video. I especially appreciate your attention to details when it comes to temps and limitations. I do, however, have one question regarding the noise. My current build is in a fractal node 804 and the case raddles a lot when the disks are in operation. Sometimes is so bad that I can hear it from outside the closet where the NAS lives in. I was wondering if the N4 suffers from this problem. Thanks
@jtd8719
2 ай бұрын
Nice review, CJ.
@user-kg9ux9qz6d
2 ай бұрын
С удовольствием использую корпус Jonsbo N1 Gray. Очень хороший и удобный, для небольшого сервера на 5 дисков.
@martyn334
2 ай бұрын
tip for uk buyers, buy the cheapest one with postage, you only pay VAT on the price of the product, not the shipping. I paid £63~ for the case itself, then £36~ for shipping. cheaper than paying £99~ with free shipping.
@rgblack316
21 күн бұрын
I am running this same board with a Ryzen 7 5700g. So it is possible to run a 4000 and 5000 series processor on it.
@yourpcmd
2 ай бұрын
I would prefer if they did an N5 and ditched the right side and replaced it with another 4 hot swap bays. Or move the dual 2.5" to where the dual 3.5" is and make it so that you can use a standard ATX PSU instead of an SFX. I'd consider buying probably 3 or 4 cases then and get rid of my Node 304's.
@V1N_574
2 ай бұрын
any idea when the N5 is coming out???
@TheCreat
2 ай бұрын
I found the statement surprising, that "most" ryzen Mainboards won't boot without a graphics card. All my servers in recent years were AM4, with standard consumer boards, and all booted just fine without GPU. Of course one was needed to be plugged in until the OS was installed, but after they ran just fine without any graphics.
@ElevatedSystems
2 ай бұрын
It’s been my experience that while most X series am4 mobos will post without graphics, most A and B series will not. However many, specially Asrock and Asus boards have received bios updates that have fixed that. Unfortunately many of those updates then preclude the ability to use 1st - 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs.
@sentranne
2 ай бұрын
Nice!!
@astralpowers
2 ай бұрын
Is Aliexpress shipping to North America (I assume) that expensive? I live in Singapore and I've bought a Jonsbo N1 case from Aliexpress and shipping wasn't high at all.
@leonidiakovlev
2 ай бұрын
How often do you guys hotswap HDDs in your homelab NASes? :)
@wojtek-33
2 ай бұрын
Just FYI, just because a Ryzen system will boot and work with ECC, doesn't mean the ECC functionality is actually working properly. You will have to look up how to properly test ECC RAM to know for sure.
@RaghavSinhaThisisme
Ай бұрын
Question: is this case only compatible with SAS drives? Can you use a motherboard without SAS compatibility due to the expansion board that the case comes with?
@RaghavSinhaThisisme
Ай бұрын
Ah, finding out u need a pcie sas controller card for the case since most motherboards only take SATA and this case requires sas drives for some reason
@stephenxs8354
2 ай бұрын
A single sas card will give you 8 or more sata ports.
@MrAltairantares
2 ай бұрын
Are you going to return it after the video like you did Framework 16? (mostly kididng...) Would be curious how hard it'd be to stick threadripper in the case...
@ElevatedSystems
2 ай бұрын
I’ve only returned a couple cases I’ve reviewed due to defects. I have a storage unit full of PC cases. The problem with a threadripper is there aren’t many Matx motherboards for it and the cooler height restriction. My thredripper server will hopefully go in a N5.
@ickyendeavors4179
2 ай бұрын
Just a few other notes I like to think about... you can find AMD with integrated graphics, but remember: a 5700G/5600G, however, they are PCI-E 3.0 Only (not 4.0) so you will cripple graphics card performance, SAS to SATA splitters not so much as many are perfectly fine in a PCI-E 3.0 slot of even 4X to handle SATA, which doesn't kick enough bandwidth. What you absolutely, positively must avoid if you choose a 5600G/5700G is a card like a 4060/4060TI that is configured to use only PCI-E 8 lanes. Because if you put an 8 line PCI-E 4.0 card into a PCI-E 3.0 slot, you get completely demolished for the performance.
@ElevatedSystems
2 ай бұрын
The non-Pro G Ryzen CPUs also do not support ECC memory.
@goddessofwar4955
2 ай бұрын
@@ElevatedSystems exactly. Thank you for the add on!
@CJones-ic9tc
19 күн бұрын
Dust control?
@LiLBitsDK
2 ай бұрын
aw man the 3300X... never managed to get my hands on one *sniffles*
@Housestationlive
2 ай бұрын
this cases addresses the silverstone cs280 issue, where the gpu is limited in WIDTH because of the remaning space between the last bracket and the very end of the case. very, very, stupid issue to have on a case.
@stephenxs8354
2 ай бұрын
So how is it a game changer?
@frankwong9486
2 ай бұрын
N4: To make a matx and low profile slot design which basically mess up ( still count as changer but goes wrong direction ) They have a new model like n5 which support full height card, and all slots support 3.5 instead of n4 weird 4+2+2
@helljester8097
2 ай бұрын
Frankly mAtx support was huge for me. Agreed having only half of those drive bays hot swap is a weird step back compared to the n2 or n3.
@PlayingItWrong
2 ай бұрын
It's a magnificent retirement home for a matx gaming system, and your pcie lanes can be utilised for a 25gbe nic or a nvme 4x4 board (it'll need to be one with 2 on each side)
@stephenxs8354
2 ай бұрын
@@PlayingItWrong Gaming? Tons of other suitable cases with full size slots.
@stephenxs8354
2 ай бұрын
@@helljester8097 Tons of nas cases that support matx.
@PyromancerRift
2 ай бұрын
I prefer intel for nas. The iddle power consumption is much lower than ryzen and almost all of them have IGPU.
@ElevatedSystems
2 ай бұрын
Idle power consumption is user configurable and no consumer Intel CPU's support ECC until 12th gen, with the use of an expensive W680 Pro motherboard.
@asldfjkalsdfjasdf
2 ай бұрын
Power consumption?
@davidg5898
2 ай бұрын
Of a case? 0 watts.
@asldfjkalsdfjasdf
2 ай бұрын
@@davidg5898 He did not only present the case but a build with it.
@davidg5898
2 ай бұрын
@@asldfjkalsdfjasdf The build was only to show what it's like to work in the case.
@bluesquadron593
2 ай бұрын
IO shield
@Housestationlive
2 ай бұрын
theses niche market are not niches. this is where manufacturers made mistakes. with youtube and video media explosion, everyone needs huge storage capacity, not only business owners.
@shineymcshine
2 ай бұрын
Yes! I've been following the NAS case market for years now and there still isn't a "perfect" solution for homes & small businesses. The demand is there if anyone were to actually get it right.
@Housestationlive
2 ай бұрын
@@shineymcshine this is too bad there is a mixed configuration between ssd and hdd. no one goes for 3 hdd and 3 ssd, especially for a storage solution.
@gaidin
2 ай бұрын
Not selling off your old components is just such a poor financial decision. With rapidly depreciating assets you are FAR better off to sell once you are finished with it....even if you have to re-buy later back into older technology. Anything other than that is putting sentiment and emotion over common sense.
@Kyrylo_Borovyk
Ай бұрын
For me this case is like a beautiful girl... with a d%ck. It looks good, but that compromise solution with placing two 2,5 inch bays instead of 3,5 from the right is ruining the whole purpose. 2,5 bays can be used via adapter with 3,5 inch if needed, but not vice versa. It is understandable that power supply will require space, but it will be better having FlexATX in top section instead and utilize space leftover in bottom section for proper second sata backplane.
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