Full conversation with Jordan Peterson and Lex Fridman: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1I9ux3qJkmSrqWk
@waltershumer4211
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear a interview with Alexander Dugan on the subject of traditionalism, the antithesis to the post 1945 liberal world order which has been dominant up until this point and is showing signs of collapse....... Benjamin titlebaum a left wing sociologist has written a book about the subject called war for eternity who would also be a very good guest on the subject. thank you very much.
@lightfoot.2000
2 жыл бұрын
inspiring 😑🙏
@amc3463
2 жыл бұрын
Peterson is a 🤡 in a suit and doesn't understand the situation
@waltershumer4211
2 жыл бұрын
@@amc3463 ..... What doesn't he understand?
@waltershumer4211
2 жыл бұрын
@@FredSully .... I am pro russian, but when it comes to Azov battalion, you should understand this is a very small group of people, and does not represent Ukraine as a whole as is evidenced by their Jewish president...... That said there was a genocide in Ukraine called the holodomor in which Russia starved and killed millions upon millions of ukrainians, as a consequence the Germans of this time period were seen as liberators and saviors, (and indeed they were) so there is a statue of a national socialist in Ukraine which a very small group of people still honor with flowers every year, not to celebrate national socialism, but to show gratitude. One thing I've learned about history is that there's no such thing as a good guy and a bad guy, it's always black and white....... People are disappointing that way, boath individually and collectively. I'm afraid it is only the ignorant and foolish who have the satisfaction of a motion picture like clear distinction in between good and bad when it comes to these things.
@juliaelrod2154
Жыл бұрын
😊 My dad, a Canadian, passed away a couple years ago. I didn't know how much I missed hearing "bloody this and bloody that" until I heard Jordan say it.💞
@IrLosin
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan is so right about politicians isolating themselves. It's so much easier to dehumanise your opponents when you don't have normal human contact with them.
@mikegreen3517
2 жыл бұрын
well said
@olivergoodness7694
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@mischa_solt
2 жыл бұрын
You speaking about Putin? About normal contact with Putin?
@joebenson528
2 жыл бұрын
@@mischa_solt Yes the guy standing up for the independent people of the DPR and LPR against the NATO installed apartheid regime.
@tymurmylosvietov4120
2 жыл бұрын
@@joebenson528 you must be russian or really blind. It is clearly an imperialistic war by russia against Ukraine.
@paulheydarian1281
2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't these same concerns and questions come up when discussing Afghanistan and Iraq? Or Libya? Or Syria? Or Yemen? Or so many other nations. Why?
@anthonysillas4017
2 жыл бұрын
Not one to post or ever reply but why should he???? Haven’t really watched this dude ngl just started and you right from the last 2 weeks of watching short clips he does bring this topic up a lot. Not a lex type human but even I clearly can tell he has a personal reason and connection that is troubling him, you can tell he is trynna to work out how he feels. I assume he’s Russian or maybe from the region???? Not sure why he has to use his spotlight to talk about the rest tho……just cause you care doesn’t mean he has too, you know. You didn’t ask me personally but just some thoughts.
@caglayandursunoglu6731
2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe they don’t matter much? Maybe people don’t give a shit about those places since the war there is continuing since the beginning of time {exaggerating to make a point if you are sensitive} {just brainstorming}
@Diewux
2 жыл бұрын
Why you are buying smartphone instead of sending money for starving people? It’s same kinda logic. You cant expect same attention on everything. This war happens literally in europe and it affected it most, so western world is audible about it. Whether you like it or not.
@rossoriordan2
2 жыл бұрын
They did come up.
@milmil5350
2 жыл бұрын
If you're referring to where Jordan Peterson and Lex was on those topics, they were not prominent at that time. Social media & the interne was very different. Don't forget that
@Unknown-yu3ms
2 жыл бұрын
Conversation is everything! Thank you both for letting us in on this conversation. Stay happy, stay healthy. 🍻
@juniperman
2 жыл бұрын
Conversation is talk … talk is cheep
@lucienwmoon
2 жыл бұрын
One thing, out of many, that I admire about Lex is his ability to communicate. I often find people, sometimes including myself, rushing to get words out of their mouths. When Lex speaks, he does so very deliberately and is able to articulate a sentence so well because of it.
@woofwoof9647
2 жыл бұрын
@@GStones58 He is very shy an has annxiety problems he spoke about it in a video awhile back !! He thinks before he speaks bro !!
@woofwoof9647
2 жыл бұрын
@@GStones58 All Good mate was just stating fact cos i watched that video , No dis - respect intended towards You My Friend Blessingsfrom New Zealand . May All Your Dreams and Wishes Come True !!
@woofwoof9647
2 жыл бұрын
@@GStones58 Mate You are most Welcome in New Zealand Anytime . And Yes The Thylacine Most Certainly is alive an Well on Mainland Australia all over and Tasmainia unfortunatly Not in New Zealand i have been Following Neil Waters with Thylacine Awareness Group of Australia and Tasmania inc fascinating for me also Yowie Australian Sabe ( Sasquatch ) basicly thousands of sightings an encounters . We also have Moehau Man our Sabe ( Sasquatch ) havnt had an encounter Yeti but are seriously looking forward to one . I live beside Mt Egmont and 34500 hectares of National Park but sadly Nothing in here No food Damn 1080 poison !! Also sittings of a large lion like cat has had many sightings also endemic to Australia Awesome stuff ill look up the name for ya m8 .
@woofwoof9647
2 жыл бұрын
@@GStones58 Haha gezz thats funny yeah ol Steve i picked up on him just before he got into the Sabe side as fascinated as i am about Sabe i loved his hunting stories im a hunter myself 14 deer 6 fallow 6 Sika an 2 Reds so far an many pigs with dogs an Rifle when younger 60 now just got a Beautiful Browning X Bolt Sythetic Stainless 300 Win Mag with a Bushnell 4-12 x44 scope Awesome !! Thyacoleo is the name of that Cat in Australia many sightings of these too !! Mate i would love Come to the Lone Star State Dont Mess with Texas !!! Hog Hunting Big Uns !!
@woofwoof9647
2 жыл бұрын
@@GStones58 Cool ol Shotgun Ok ill explain to you my take on what Steve is doing ( by the way thats funny youve been blocked ) Rito he was reading Hunting stories with pretty much all his own experiences i believe him about his own encounters as you would have heard about them and his Grandfathers encounter which i actually find weird that he didnt hear that till Steve was 26 years old anyway he began getting Sabe stories more mixed in with Hunting encounters an because he had sympathy for these people the riddicule an hassle they had if saying or telling anyone so many people have been silent for years and i reckon Steve gave them an opening or opportunity to share their encounter beeing good or bad and because BFRO are so much Bullshit and not listening or turning away real encounters an not taking people seriously that has pissed Steve off immensly and he himself wants answers from gubermint for himself and all these different people and David Paulides and Scott Carpenter 411 the missing ones everyone wants answers i actually dont watch Steve as much now i want the old music back i dont like that drone an music bring back hunting one an him at the end with his arms out wheres the Tee Shirt of him doing that ??? Asked him to please do Tee Shirt but nah !! So now he has a hugh following an im not that much into fishing either and hes hard out trying to get answers and also its not just him now with Sarah and kids not same anymore !! i havnt had an encounters or seen anything here in New Zealand but i was.6 years old when Patterson / Gimmlin film Patty came out i believed it then it hasnt been debunked anyway who would of thought to have falsefied Sabe with a Female Sabe in those days an yes ive seen Franks suit that was guna be faked it was light brown Patty was Black an Boobies !! The sightings of Yowie in Australia are in the thousands same as Canada America Vietnam skunk apes Florida Skunk apes Hymalayas Yeti Moehau Man New Zealand Scotland England Wales Russia chyna sightings are becoming more numouruos worldwide hehe then well shall we Dogman Wendigos Rakes Werewolves haha we could go on its 8.37 pm now ok ill leave it at that mate . Message anytime Bro .
@silviuvelovici8307
2 жыл бұрын
As a Romanian living in the US for the last 30 years I totally agree with Mr. Peterson that the West has lost its mind.
@abc-eq9so
2 жыл бұрын
I was in Romania couple of days ago. I'm Serbian. Romania is ages ahead today. I remember back in Yugoslavian days Romania was like third world country. How things have changed...
@КонстантинМатвеев-д8ц
2 жыл бұрын
Romania have fallen into the bottomless pit of western corruption. You have no right to talk on behalf of your country until you return back to your country and set things right, traitor.
@КонстантинМатвеев-д8ц
2 жыл бұрын
@@abc-eq9so Romania today is far way worse than a third world country. Today it is a capitol of child prostitution and human trafficking in Europe.
@1stsampan
6 ай бұрын
@totozviara Some do. And you can move to Cuba.
@LoveBagpipes
6 ай бұрын
@@abc-eq9soI suppose that unlike Serbia, Romania wasn't bombed twice by NATO in the last 30 years
@briancrumpacker
2 жыл бұрын
There are so many things to be learned from the ONE CLIP that can not only be applied directly to this subject matter, but can be used to extrapolate on many different aspects of our lives. I thank the both of you for continuing to show us how to use our minds in a correct fashion, to effectively communicate and complete our thoughts.
@chriskindler10
2 жыл бұрын
so what exactly did you learn from this clip?
@Thawhid
2 жыл бұрын
@@chriskindler10is this an insulting comment or? This was a good clip for sure
@cmath6454
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is the king of pushing stories on everything and everyone. Thinking he's contextualizing reality when human beings form judgements based on themselves. In essence he just describes himself and pushes it on others.
@agriskaminskis9352
2 жыл бұрын
Fabricated fantasy of Russia by Peterson. I know quite a lot about Russia and this is outright manipulation by Peterson. Or he is an idiot. One cannot miss so badly. He thinks he's so smart that he takes partial info about a thing and paints the picture of the whole without proper due diligance. A smartass idiot.
@IntricateIntrovert
Жыл бұрын
@@cmath6454 So you lack the mental capacity to comprehend his words? Got it
@jessemohring3484
2 жыл бұрын
Watching and listening to conversations like these makes it more difficult to have a conversation with a friend with out having debate turn into argument. Discussion is becoming a rare form these days.
@GoodFellerTreeCare
2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@johnmatonne7834
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I can't talk to democrats any longer. I wonder why anyone would vote for a democrat and their woke-ism
@cognitivefuse5913
2 жыл бұрын
An argument is a debate.
@ivandafoe5451
2 жыл бұрын
These two clowns are in agreement on this issue...so a discussion is possible. If you are in agreement with them and expect your friends to agree with you in the same way, then you will have to confine your hoped-for conversations to friends who are as delusional as you are.
@screamingatthesky1878
2 жыл бұрын
@@ivandafoe5451 Calling some of the most intelligent and non biased minds on the internet 'clowns' is the most clown shit I've ever read, fat L
@Go-ah-oold
2 жыл бұрын
It is so refreshing to hear him speak about this issue, this perspective is different enough from the standard analysis to make it proportionately interesting. So lovely!
@ufgator18
2 жыл бұрын
The hospitality aspect is fascinating. I've never thought of it that way, but providing grand hospitality to your guests even if they are strangers is actually a bonding experience.
@steelcom5976
2 жыл бұрын
You actually needed someone to tell you that?
@sc100ott
2 жыл бұрын
And if we saw a Western leader treat Putin, Xi, Kim, King Salman(Saudi), Rouhanni (Iran), or any potentially adversarial leader with a modicum of hospitality, the opposition party within our own Western country would spin it as an outrage. This is a big reason why we can’t solve many of our problems.
@steelcom5976
2 жыл бұрын
@@sc100ott You have to be f*c*ing kidding
@TheReferrer72
2 жыл бұрын
@@sc100ott Do you think European leaders did not treat any of these leaders with hospitality? I feel sorry for this world, where liberals think they have to pander to everyone.
@abditus5842
2 жыл бұрын
Ronald Reagan would have Tip O’Neil over for drinks and jokes once a week while he was President and Tip led the opposition. Jack Welch, legendary CEO of GE had the Union leaders and their families over for barbecues. Hospitality breaks down barriers and allows us to see the “ opposition” as people.
@finerbiner
2 жыл бұрын
Conservative, Liberal, Leftist, Rethuglican etc... If you need to use these terms to make your point you should stop. Go back, try to get a better grip on your view and bring it to the world without loading it with BS before you start.
@hardcoresb3
2 жыл бұрын
I dislike labels. We as a human species have bigger fish to fry.
@kogaigo
Жыл бұрын
Saying Putin is worse than Stalin is great exaggeration if anything
@tedmusson5179
6 ай бұрын
Stalin was two things. The most propaganda lied about human on earth, and the greatest statesman of the twentieth. Similarly but in the opposite direction churchill was one of the greatest racists of the 20th. Let me remind that Britain sat thumb massaging sphincter while nazi was made strong destroying legally elected Spain.
@tedmusson5179
6 ай бұрын
Let me add that the racist coalition of France, UK, U$a, et al. created hitler and nazi with hideous bankster WWI.
@tedmusson5179
6 ай бұрын
Saying Putin is almost as great as Stalin is a blatant truth. The initials tell the west's story in a vulgar sort of way... U$UK I AM HOUTHIS
@misterwhipple2870
5 ай бұрын
Maybe so, but I think that what they mean is that Putin WANTS to be worse than Stalin, but he just hasn't managed it yet.
@Dudush90
4 ай бұрын
@@misterwhipple2870 dont u think Putin see whats going on now and still he is protecting Russia ? what west is doing towards Russia is really BS, imagine this on other side, they would never accept this, and Putin tolerate it all this years...even war in Georgia happened because of west interest...Im just gamer but still this is going this way, NATO surrounding Russia, lets take all countries around u, now left really few, and then we just went in from nearly all sides and u have no chance to respond, and I feel for Russia this is happening...I understand Putin and he tolerate west so much and for me he gets trapped by west...and I know also how US propaganda works, what US do its all OK, they have under control nato/EU they gonna be silent, US can do whatever they want, and they even did...Syria,Lybia,Jemen...other countries there, and anyone cared that US destroyed that country and took their resources ? but now I see, Russia stand up, said enough and people dont see it, evil is still Russia...
@adriantodea3005
2 жыл бұрын
Lex has always impressed me with his genuine posture.
@johnmatonne7834
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he sits up straight
@senior_java
2 жыл бұрын
Kremlin agent. Lex is an agent
@TheKidsInTheRoom
2 жыл бұрын
haha not easy I agree.
@pawemostek3587
2 жыл бұрын
Lex still thinks Russia is a great country and Russians are great people - the truth is opposite most of Russians think like Putin. Russians created Putin and Putin is able to attack and murder other nations because russians allow it and support it. Lex STOP promoting Russia !!!
@gg6886
2 жыл бұрын
He is Batman
@julienwoodstock5546
2 жыл бұрын
Finally a podcast with jorden Peterson I’ve been waiting for this for tooo long
@MrTweaksTV
2 жыл бұрын
you obviously mean jordache petersen
@darvinist87
Жыл бұрын
As a Russian I cannot agree with prof. Peterson entirely, but I must give him credit, he does much better job understanding Russia than so many others.
@nocturne000
6 ай бұрын
Hey I'm curious, what would you say he got right, and got wrong? I'd like to understand the Russian perspective better, if you would be so kind.
@AlexanderMeldianov
6 ай бұрын
@@nocturne000 Where he's right: Mismanagement of Western policy has led to the conflict. We see it as vile will rather. Where he's not quite right: - Russia does not have expansionist goals. We are biggest on Earth, we don't need territories, name any natural resource, we have a lot of it. Russia would not leave what it took for the first month of SMO if it wanted to conquer Ukraine. Russian terms for Istanbul negotiations April 2022 did not contain any territorial claims. - Putin is sincere, Russia is sincere and we don't understand why what we say is hard to understand. - Dugin is not important in Russian modern philosophy whatsoever, he's seen as a freak. Russians are normal, we don't like extremes. - Hate towards Russians in Ukraine has its limits, there is significant part of Ukrainians who support our goals. Majority of such has left the country not willing to fight for Ukraine. - Putin is not in human bubble, he just lost last remnants of trust to the current Western elites. He does not see to whom he could talk in the West who would not break all agreements like times and times and times before. His position is 'you lied to our face quite enough and we're done with you. We don't want anything to do with you anymore'.
@nocturne000
6 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderMeldianov First of all, I really appreciate you taking the time to educate me on an important perspective I don't get to hear that often. I especially think Putin being fed up with western shenanigans and dishonest statecraft makes the most sense. A lot of people don't understand the full extent to which western Europe and the USA has been trying to coopt Ukraine, using deception and other nefarious means. I'm not saying they were the only ones doing it, but people need to realize this conflict can't be boiled down into such a simplistic reason. There's way more nuance. Anyway thanks again for the perspective. It made me think about things I hadn't before which is valuable.
@LoveBagpipes
6 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderMeldianovvery well said! 🇦🇺 As an Australian, I agree with what you said...and Putin's messaging has been consistent and easy to understand
@nocturne000
6 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderMeldianov I swear I replied to this, but it seems like is disappeared… in any case all I wanted to say was how much I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. It’s incredibly important for this perspective to be heard. The idea that there’s just this “hatred” towards Ukraine has never made much since to me. Like you said, it only goes so far. Trust and a sense of security on the other hand are something I think we can all understand. That’s the great thing about talking to people from, or traveling to other countries. You’ll notice no matter where you go, you’ll find other people. And other people are easier to relate to than what the media wants to portray, or not portray. That second point as well is significant. Putin did exactly what he said he would. I’m tact, he’s done what he said he would many times and yet for some reason it’s portrayed like it’s random. Again, I very much appreciate your detailed comment. I find it funny (as an American) that my country thinks they have any leg to stand on when it comes to military actions taken, or statecraft. Take care, friend.
@lineinthesand663
2 жыл бұрын
I think they are being overgenerous in their descriptions of US Congressmen.
@michaelwhardy1908
2 жыл бұрын
I think most of the conservative congressmen are genuinely there to help the country but the ones on the left will have a set of ideas 1 year and then say they believe the opposite next year just to get elected but conservative view points hedge remained the same for a very long time
@ujmm
2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't think Peterson is talking about congressmen from a country where the majority interest has much less effect on policy change compared to special interests. The main reason why the u.s is not placed in the top 10. on the democracy index. Corruption is a massive problem that somehow gets disguised because people are allowed to press one of two buttons every fourth year.
@cryptodavidw
2 жыл бұрын
Right xD are we ignoring the corruption?
@ElectricAIDS
2 жыл бұрын
I like this comment because it is theatrical as Jordan said but it could be true it is a broad statement.
@marcus_ohreallyus
2 жыл бұрын
It's a talk about the war in Ukraine without actually talking about the war in Ukraine
@devinsayswecanflyingram6321
2 жыл бұрын
did you want Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist, to give a war analysis of the situation and circumstances on the ground?
@TgfkaTrichter
2 жыл бұрын
@@devinsayswecanflyingram6321 considering that he constantly comments on stuff that he has no idea about and does not understand... then why not?
@DiviousVicious
2 жыл бұрын
It's about causes, which matters.
@tkkunaka2630
2 жыл бұрын
They spoke about the causes so yeah
@Cockmonging
2 жыл бұрын
@@TgfkaTrichter it's fine since it seems to work for you eh?
@ВикторЦай-л7я
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ! When I have heard Jordan Peterson talking about that Putin convinced Russians that Russia is the saver who will save the world from degeneracy of the West I got scared. How the hell he knows what people talk on my streets! This guy seems to me so smart and insightful in a sense that he can dig deep, very deep, take my respect Mr. Peterson. Great conversation! Thank you, Lex
@mozes7786
2 жыл бұрын
If you understand human psychology and how sociological concepts work, its not hard to extrapolate and gleam.
@pindapoy1596
2 жыл бұрын
@ Виктор Цай Maybe Putin did not have to convince his people that Russia is a saver. Maybe he just exposed the obvious faults of a capitalist regime gone wild and the Russians instinctively rejected that type of society. People (all over the world that have strong values) do not need to be dragged into convictions that their leaders attempt to impose on them. Russia and the Russian people are far from acting like the crusaders did when they wanted to "liberate" the holy places. They simply reject the way of life of the western world because the flaws are obvious to them. And incidentally, given that their educational system is far superior to that in the western world, they do not have to be told because they are able to reason
@margieaustman
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this of Putins feelings towards the west…. A shared view of the easts views of westerners degeneration.
@mozes7786
2 жыл бұрын
@@margieaustman so move there if you like it so much ya salami
@tankerd1847
2 жыл бұрын
I think the saddest thing is that Americans, Brits and other Western Europeans can't figure out that we were doing the same exact thing almost 20 years ago when we were pushing to go fight in Iraq. We came up with BS reasons to go invade a sovereign nation in order to trick the people into fulfilling the government's greater geopolitical goals. Ukraine to Russia is cut from the same tree as Iraq to America. The difference is that Russia didn't back Iraq. I worry greatly what this conflict may become, I seriously do not want to see nuclear war or any war between the United States and Russia, the consequences would be unspeakable.
@lepsze
2 жыл бұрын
Is in it funny how JP interrupted Lex to add part on how listening is important :) 14:10
@RobMcGrath0
2 жыл бұрын
It was, i thought i saw Lex smile at that too XD
@TheKeithlb
2 жыл бұрын
I giggled a little too. His timing was comedy on that one. We all human and continue to make mistakes. Love is the answer as we are all starting to conclude... finally. I'm excited to see this realize for the whole human population. I love you all!
@jkws3724
2 жыл бұрын
Good Listening has nothing to do with letting people finish speaking and everything to do with listening
@lepsze
2 жыл бұрын
@@jkws3724 this is kind of stretched interpretation. I can agree to some extent, yet in the same time I would still argue that listening is primarily about listening to the whole what other people want to say.
@tomstark28
2 жыл бұрын
@@jkws3724 hard to listen to what you haven't allowed to be said.
@gsomethingsomething2658
2 жыл бұрын
Lex, please get Vlad Vexler on. He has brilliant insight on Putin and the current war.
@imagination1170
2 жыл бұрын
He really doesn't, at the end of the day it comes to two questions. Do you as Russian president continue to allow the genocide of Donbass and allow NATO to park missiles on your border?
@EZPZMAGA
2 жыл бұрын
How about Vlad+JP with lex moderating?😜
@Sophie.S..
Жыл бұрын
Vlad Vexler is a brilliant political philosopher - he has no time for Jordan Peterson.
@nikital7541
Жыл бұрын
Vexler lives in a bubble
@sd1082
27 күн бұрын
Yeah Vexler is having a spy inside Putin’s mind.. He can manipulate everything into anything.. all the real life happenings that Lex channel shows and gives evidence, Vex will bind a lot of complex english hypothesis
@Longlivedixie7
2 жыл бұрын
Loved the conversation until things drifted away from Putin & Ukraine. Would had like to heard much more of you twos thoughts regarding that. Thank you for the first part in any case.
@markvel8605
Жыл бұрын
The think is that there isn’t much to discuss. Just another tyrant brainwashing his nation
@moorediane7831
2 жыл бұрын
I am glad you stressed ‘good leaders’. I doubt we have many on seeing the poverty, hunger & homelessness in this world. The destruction of the middle class to poor is being driven globally by governments.
@steelcom5976
2 жыл бұрын
But you vote for those governments so YOU are to blame.
@BeEnNLGaming
2 жыл бұрын
Thats not because they are good or bad, its because they are greedy.
@jacobsvensson8193
2 жыл бұрын
@@BeEnNLGaming If they are greedy to the point of not caring if millions of people die as a consequence of their greed, is it then wrong for us to view them as 'bad'?
@AydarBMSTU
2 жыл бұрын
putin is no great leader btw
@steelcom5976
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsvensson8193 It's a human construct. It doesn't actually exist.
@vtheman1850
Жыл бұрын
This one was awesome, great job from the both of you, especially Lex who is very critical of Russia's invasion. A really good conversation.
@Fervillasmil
2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to raise my children so they can think for themselves with logic and to express themselves in a way close to what this two men accomplish. Lex is a Titan and so is Jordan. This articulated speaking of thought is what is disappearing from nowadays far to easy consumption of bullshit from all angles of fast net media experiences and kind of avoided by regular primary and secondary education levels.
@jupitermoongauge4055
Жыл бұрын
You think Peterson uses logic ? Not really. He has a list of very illogical opinions that he attempts to legitimise through obfuscation and obscurantism which is complicated enough to fool a lot of people into thinking that he is using logic. Peterson is a con artist, a pseudo intellectual and guy who very often doesn't have a clue about the true nature of the things he is angry about which means he's just a run of the mill right wing reactionary bigot
@RealityCheck6969
2 жыл бұрын
14:10 "You Batman." Finally it's official. Lex is Batman. He knows karate. The secret is out.
@Jagar_Tharn
2 жыл бұрын
9:40 More evidence. I have to concur with your conclusion.
@jfd4755
2 жыл бұрын
Lex you are a great interviewer and Jordan no more to add, eloquence as it best
@argonaut5617
2 жыл бұрын
Peterson is arrogant ofc, but what is most important there is that he's lying about the reasons of what's happening in Ukraine, doing his best serious face. He's just lying. Ukraine got anti-constitutional coup trampled main laws. That laws was made for people of Ukraine. Ukrainian govt allowed CIA to rule the country. All CIA wanted is false flag war with Russia, it's old as opium wars. All this Peterson's speech is another chewing gum for brainless homegrowed hamsters who believe CNN, the difference is minimal. So well, you'll feel worse of these lies after all, apparently that's what you want to get, so listen to Peterson further.
@hudhinton1880
2 жыл бұрын
No one has a higher opinion of Jordan Peterson than Jordan Peterson.
@that_heretic
2 жыл бұрын
Lex doesn't bother doing his homework and lets Peterson completely redefine the conversation. Bad interview Lex, do better. Not because it's popular, because it's right.
@good2freelance1
2 жыл бұрын
Peterson is NOT qualified to talk about geo politics. He gave the military industrial complex a free pass for wars.
@popodopulus3826
2 жыл бұрын
ESPECIALLY about this russian invasion. He is wrong in virtually every point.
@AxionXIII
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan, Keanu, Drake. Canada’s holy trinity.
@Wishlake
2 жыл бұрын
Peterson suggesting that Western governments not being 'hospital' in communicating with Russia, justyfing invasion on a sovern country is just something I never thought I'm gonna hear from him.
@jackstone4825
2 жыл бұрын
You must be used to hearing it from your leaders ever since WW2. They just brainwashed you with a quasi moralistic pretense of ‘going in to protect the local population from a terrible dictator’… This is the biggest issue with you Westerners, your holier than thou attitude towards the rest of the world, whose cultures you don’t give a flying f*ck about understanding, before you invade them for their resources… No worries, your decline is coming to an end… Just another empire of lies falling, just a page in the book of history.
@karlloovali4531
2 жыл бұрын
Was Putin in a bubble in 2014 as well??
@Wishlake
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Peterson's points are ridiculous. I've been astonished since his Civil War video... wtf is he saying...him of all people
@danolivier4899
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan's another guy who's so busy hating the west he can't see actual evil staring him in the face
@jumblestiltskin1365
2 жыл бұрын
Good question.
@tylere.8436
Жыл бұрын
Or in 2008
@Dudush90
4 ай бұрын
I think Putin is a great leader, I think for him no1 is Russia, he is patriotic, of course he leads some wars but who didnt ? and those wars were never as destructive as from US leaders...problem is also propaganda, EU/NATO together by US politicians spread into nearly whole Europe, and what US wants, that EU/NATO will spread, and people straight have just one opinion and dont see other. right now, propaganda how Putin is going to invade Europe, and many people really believed it, but in fact, there is not a single action or something dont know how to call it, that this is true. and still people believe it...crazy we are just like mind slaves or what
@antonkravets5026
Жыл бұрын
It’s an interesting experience to see two smart people talk on a topic they don’t understand at all. And they don’t even have a clue.
@AZhangETH
2 жыл бұрын
Blaming the war in Ukraine on ‘the woke’ is some of the craziest mental gymnastics I have ever seen
@oslogutt80
2 жыл бұрын
Then read more....
@jaredthetrain5309
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that last part about leadership was very enlightening.
@Tod_oMal
2 жыл бұрын
You mean that part talking to Congress people?
@jon-quijano
2 жыл бұрын
Lex trying to get Jordan to see his opponents as humans, hoping to help him see the bubble he’s in.
@stephensullivan1011
2 жыл бұрын
Why couldn't I have seen this earlier😭 yesss so excited to watch!!!
@johnwhiteman7483
2 жыл бұрын
I connect with Jordan Peterson when he is in improvisational mode. So much more natural heartfelt and empathic communication. In improve mode I feel like he could connect with everyone if they were willing to listen. When he reads it just feels dry cold and condemning. Improve mode he is so much more human. 👍
@brutallyremastered4255
2 жыл бұрын
In “improve mode” it’s just our fault we don’t recognise his generous genius? Fvck right off.
@vhufeosqap
2 жыл бұрын
Peterson’s presentation and reading of DailyWire has been bad IMO. If feels false…. snarly and aggressively delivered with a feeling of disgust and anger. Nevermind mind the dramatic word choice (cringe). Unfortunate really, he has come across like an open minded even tempered person in the past… feels like that’s missing much more often as time goes on.
@FrenchCanadianGuy
2 жыл бұрын
@@GStones58 wouldn't you love it if someone you disagree with committed suicide? Those kind of thoughts are just making your mental issues worst friend.
@FOURTEEFIVE
2 жыл бұрын
@@GStones58 so what?
@macpdm
2 жыл бұрын
Wow JP with Lex fantastic. Would have also loved to have heard the conversation between Jimmy Carr and JP
@alvareo92
2 жыл бұрын
The conversation between Jimmy Carr with Jordan is already on the latter’s KZitem channel. Brace yourself as Jordan has met his equal: both of them interrupt each other to launch into their own monologue of whatever they felt like talking about
@DineshJ
2 жыл бұрын
Lex... you are starting to become a more-rounded and total intellectual. I agree, the issue with the wars is an issue of spirit.... of bad energy.
@brutallyremastered4255
2 жыл бұрын
“bad energy”? Ffs, lol.
@DineshJ
2 жыл бұрын
@@brutallyremastered4255yep...bad JuJu I'm a goddam hippy what can I say 😂
@hmq9052
2 жыл бұрын
It's a good job you're not in charge of foreign policy
@DineshJ
2 жыл бұрын
@@hmq9052 it's true what you say.... I'd start every diplomatic meeting with a hug, a cup of Ayahuasca and then light up sense incense sticks.... Not sure if it would work
@Boogra
2 жыл бұрын
@@DineshJ Well, it certainly couldn't be much worse than it is today. That's for damn sure.
@RockLee679
Жыл бұрын
Lex is a pro at listening. Never interrupts
@AutisticThinker
2 жыл бұрын
5:29 - Talk about a coincident in timing mentioning Dugin... His daughter was killed with a car bomb (intended for Dugin) one day later. I've never even heard of him before today.
@jamesalexander8872
2 жыл бұрын
There is a decent chance that this mention resulted in said targeting
@Boogra
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesalexander8872 I'm pretty sure it didn't. Whichever Ukrainian trashbin did this has been planning it for some time. The Left hates Dugin and his knowledge of the workings of the globalists. I guarantee you, though, that after this, they are about to hate him more. When you murder a man's child in front of him, what more does he have to lose?
@Jake_Hamlin
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesalexander8872 not really considering the bombing was planned well prior to this conversation
@Kkkkkkkkkk747
2 жыл бұрын
Lex, what you are missing in the entire picture is the global financial system. It's more important then anything else, because it's the last barrier preventing wars.
@weirdshibainu
2 жыл бұрын
LOL. What you're missing is the global financial systems are often the catalysts for wars.
@tiktokking1546
2 жыл бұрын
That's the fallacy of structualism.
@basilp5179
2 жыл бұрын
Preventing? I’d say it’s the cause. See “Wall Street and the Russian Revolution.”
@jamesmcdougal2
2 жыл бұрын
West has weaponized the financial system to bend others to their will. Its a tool of war
@Kkkkkkkkkk747
2 жыл бұрын
@@basilp5179 I do agree that many wars were started because of the same financial system out of necessity and importance, but without it the situation would not be any different and in fact the chaos and damage will be even greater. The new financial system is already build on top of the XRP ledger protocol, so the moment the old system is no longer functional, they will replace it and everyone who is not aware of what is going on will be left behind.
@andreasv9472
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan Petersson interrupting Lex like : "especially listening" lmao! Fun duo 😉
@claudiostulla9647
2 жыл бұрын
Good point , I thought that , too.
@claudiostulla9647
2 жыл бұрын
Good point, I thought that, too.
@mondoenterprises6710
2 жыл бұрын
Talk to Putin about Love, Lex. And see how far that gets you.
@sd1082
27 күн бұрын
😂 you simply can’t digest truth huh?? Imagine getting betrayed by the people who you think are your friends.. You will become a villain.. How can you expect the leader of Russia to suck yours every time you bore his butt
@memnoch6646
2 жыл бұрын
Mentioning Alexander Dugin days before the car bomb is crazy.
@MB2.0
2 жыл бұрын
His significance has been overstated in western media. He has never even been pictured with Putin. Most russians didnt know him before people started labeling him "Putin's Rasputin"(a title which in of itself is ludicrous).
@artmanrom
2 жыл бұрын
When I was very young (in Ceausescu's Romania) and just starting to be aware of the world due to my cerebral cortex being formed, I saw my first beggar, a young man missing a leg. I was shivering because I thought that there wasn't anything that I could do at that time. Then later, I was asking myself why our government ruled by the Communist Party doesn't help people in need, even if it was claimed as being "for the people". And right now, the so-called "free western so rich world" is claiming that it can't help more Ukraine cos Putin could start a nuclear war. So basically then and now, the bad people are having the upper hand cos they are holding the good people hostage by fear. I hope that the free people leaders grow a backbone and finally do the right thing.
@PaulMclauchlin
2 жыл бұрын
What, precisely, is the right thing with regards to helping Ukraine?
@rudivandereep310
2 жыл бұрын
Nah doubt it as war has many faces controlled by those whom have the power to when where why and how to just in different guise
@radimnechut519
2 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMclauchlin Stopping the war, the conflict, in the most peaceful way possible and trying to engage in, as Peterson said, honest in person conversation with at least both sides of the war. But hey, Russia's evil like nazis. We cannot talk to them. We have to defeat them no matter what by any means necessary. That's what the politicians and pundits told me.
@FlaviaIIIIFelix
2 жыл бұрын
There is no free people, there are no bad people, just ham fist leaders working for the agenda imposed to them.
@YeviG
2 жыл бұрын
The US can hardly help its own people, well not that it can't, it chooses not to. What makes you think that they would give two shits about Ukraine when they've gone in and done the same thing to a number of countries and their people that Russia is now doing with Ukraine. It is funny listening to Poland talk about occupation like they didn't have an entire Polish Zone in Iraq, and like Britain didn't partake in massacring civilians all over the world. NATOs hands are just as bloody as those who have invaded other countries.
@geppetto805
2 жыл бұрын
Normally, I'm the first to defend him, but Russia is where Peterson completely lost the plot. Greetings from Eastern Europe, where the difference between culture war and real war is not yet blurry.
@gerrardweatherlight2962
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I think it has happened the same to many people. Unlike you I'm not from that part of the world, but I was immediately put off by his take on the invasion of Ukraine. It was completely outrageous to me.
@AK4.7.47Cossack
2 жыл бұрын
Same he used to be very supportive of Ukraine and our peoples history. Seems like he's changed since joining the daily wire
@stevepickford3004
2 жыл бұрын
What exactly do you have a problem with?
@bookerdewitt2022
2 жыл бұрын
Without love their is only hate, Without a conversation there is only condemnation.
@justinpiche7977
6 ай бұрын
Jordan Peterson is the man. Thankyou so much for this podcast Lex. You’re the man too
@jezcorrigan651
2 жыл бұрын
Did not expect Jimmy Carr to be quoted in this clip
@jojonesjojo8919
2 жыл бұрын
Peterson is all over the place here - jumping from subject to subject. Dr Peterson - tidy up your disorganised mind.
@ciscoscos846
2 жыл бұрын
You can't even use correct spelling? 😒
@ciscoscos846
2 жыл бұрын
@jamesnthat you say that, for me criticizing your comment where you criticize someone else . Do you get special treatment?
@drumboarder1
2 жыл бұрын
I think years of being accused of stuff really messed with the poor dude. Conspiracy minded me thinks he was a target of the whole russian propaganda thing, make a rational person out to be hitler to divide n concur. He's only one to start losing their minds..
@ciscoscos846
2 жыл бұрын
@@drumboarder1 Hey!Hey! Get out of here!! I was giving him shit, not you! Get out of our thread. We didn't invite you here 😆 🤣
@33sheih
2 жыл бұрын
the point about hospitality reminds me of the myth around the relationship between Stalin and Churchill during WW2. Stalin was at least as "not nice" as Putin (understatement of a century) but building 1-1 relationships of leaders can be done even with such people and can relax the tensions between countries to a great degree
@belrestro
2 жыл бұрын
yes, just let him have some more land, that other thing is about conversation
@Nelson484
Жыл бұрын
Yea right, relationships. The west has been cozying up to Putin for 20 years and Putin just laughed and always escalated. He was given enough time to prepare and start this genocidal war that he has been planning for at least 15 years. But yeah let's just talk and be friends.
@deniskvochka3386
Жыл бұрын
@@Nelson484 это вы более 20 лет игноровали Путина и его опасений насчет расширения НАТО, это вы обманули его в 2014 году и через вооруженный переворот привели к власти неонацистов на Украине, это вы игнорировали Минские соглашения и со слов той же Меркель дали время Украине вооружиться... Так что не надо нам рассказывать кто есть кто. Я вам скажу так, сейчас Путина в России не любят за его слабость по отношению к Украине и западному миру, который только и делает, что обманывает и не выполняет свои же обещания. Мы хотим лидера, который перестанет пресмыкаться перед западным миром. Будем ли им Путин мы не знаем. Открою вам страшную тайну - миллионы людей в России хотят вновь Сталина у руля ибо мы хотим лидера, а не шута или тряпку у руля ядерной державы.
@iram5192
Жыл бұрын
@@deniskvochka3386 с какой стати ты возомнило себя рупором миллионов ?
@lehapankoff
Жыл бұрын
@@iram5192ну если быть объективным, миллион человек - это меньше процента населения России. У Сталина гораздо больше рейтинг, судя по опросам населения.
@jasonsierchio1167
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the honesty in this conversation
@nicolasgalileo7209
2 жыл бұрын
From lex yes from JP just bla bla bla....
@Cockmonging
2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasgalileo7209 what a dishonest take
@nicolasgalileo7209
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cockmonging you maybe right, but JP in my opinion never gives you straight answers, hence bla bla bla ...
@Cockmonging
2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasgalileo7209 not his or my problem that you have an aversion against nuance lmao
@nicolasgalileo7209
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cockmonging I see you took the attribution to talk on his behalf. Me , I speak for I , me , and myself ... I like nuance when imparts useful meaning to a solid fact.
@imeleventeen
2 жыл бұрын
There should be a class for anyone who wants to be a politician where it’s about 50/50. The emphasis should be on bonding and seeing eachother as humans. While understanding they in a sense have a common goal but see different ways of getting there. It should be explained how each sides brain is physically different, so they are literally seeing the world through different lenses. It should also be explained why each side needs the other side to balance government. It’d probably be helpful for them to learn about creativity and industrious differences too. All while having the point that we are two different types of humans trying to do good through different paths. Afterwards every year or so there should be bonding parties. They seem to see this as a sport where we are two different teams trying to win, instead we are actually one team who need to understand team work
@thelmaviaduct
2 жыл бұрын
Day 1, how to be honest.
@rhysperegrine5100
2 жыл бұрын
Very few moral issues are 50/50. Generally, one side's argument makes significantly more sense than the other's. I'm glad the signatories of Magna Carta didn't make more of an effort to see things from the perspective of King John. I'm glad political reformers in the 1800s didn't go on team building exercises with the defenders of the aristocracy. I'm glad that Civil Rights campaigners didn't go take part in bonding sessions with the racists who opposed them. And I'm glad the opponents of the Iraq War didn't go paint balling with the architects of that war.
@CalmBeforeTheStorm76
2 жыл бұрын
That is a brilliant idea.. Think how that one "requirement" could shift the perspectives of everyone involved. Or, have it be an annual activity. Can you imagine that? These informal events that force our politicians to see the other side as human beings instead of enemies?
@imeleventeen
2 жыл бұрын
@@rhysperegrine5100 I get what your saying and agree. But you can still have what I said without that
@kski5432
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot similar to Maos struggle sessions.
@MonkeWithThaZa
6 ай бұрын
Its very disgusting to say to any culture or country that they do not have history, but Ukraine doesnt have it. Ofc Im speaking for modern Ukraine
@davidgroth26
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan, great, thoughtful and insightful, as always.
@markfuller
2 жыл бұрын
I think the answer is much simpler: Germany (predominantly) accepted the annexation of Crimea and continued business deals with Russia, more dependence on energy, etc. Germany apparently thought nothing more would happen. They had 8 years to separate. Instead, they got *more* "in bed" with Russia during that time. Former politicians in business deals with oligarchs. From Putin's perspective, he would think he hadn't done anything wrong. He was encouraged to believe he could do more, "they're not going to do anything." (Now Germany complains about how much they'll suffer this winter. They had 8 years? Why was Crimea a nothingburger all that time?). Someone else commented that the west failed by losing meritocracy. I agree 100%.
@JustTayo
2 жыл бұрын
Where does NATO expansion and the tradition of US fighting a proxy war comes to place?
@mozes7786
2 жыл бұрын
You are talking about a 70 year old man as though he has the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old.
@Cockmonging
2 жыл бұрын
@@mozes7786 Didn't you hear? Painting your political opponents as comically incompetent but at the same time also the embodiment of all that is evil has become the norm.
@mozes7786
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cockmonging the two are not mutually exclusive.
@yeehaw9303
2 жыл бұрын
@@JustTayo NATO expansion has nothing to do with this conflict no matter how hard kremlin is trying to convince people. NATO is already at russia's borders and has been for quite a while. NATO would never invade a nuclear superpower, thus it poses no threat to russia, unless, russia wants to expand it's territory and start imperialist wars against it's neighbours. NATO expansion isn't the problem, russian imperialism is.
@bobwilk5155
7 ай бұрын
WARSAW PACT was CREATED MAY 1955, during the Cold War in RESPONSE to NATO Treaty In 1949, the primary aim of the North Atlantic Treaty - NATO's founding treaty - was to create a pact of mutual assistance to counter the risk that the Soviet Union would seek to extend its control of Eastern Europe to other parts of the continent, LONG BEFORE Warsaw Pact!!!
@Looper4Life
2 жыл бұрын
The point made about Putin being isolated during covid and the importance of human interaction was interesting. It reminded me of the scene from Goodfellas when around a table playing cards and laughing Jimmy called off the hit on Morrie.
@gregolsen1099
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know how to take that, though. Was it just Jimmy saying that to Henry, to relax him? Because not long after that, Maurie got the ice pick treatment. I thought it was a great build up, a bunch of guys, friends-out late drinking, and laughing, and the next thing I see, Tommy’s hitting maurie’s light switch. That’s the best way to describe the people who are in that life. Savage.
@DetectiveTrupo203
2 жыл бұрын
I was just talking about that the other day. Jimmy says "don't worry about tonight " and Henry's voice over is talking about how Maury would never know how close he came to getting whacked, and then the very next scene is him getting ice picked in the back of the head in the front seat of the car lmao, like what the hell
@mikijwa
2 жыл бұрын
Well.. I'm a big fan of JP but this has nothing to do With the problems in western europe and all to do With Russias influence in the former Eastern block. I live in Bulgaria and our government fell the day after lavrov was denied airspace to go to Serbia
@paulwally9007
2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain that a bit?
@mikijwa
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulwally9007 well ever since communism fell Russia has had vested interest in keeping its positions in my country. There has been many new patties popping up when the previous project collapses. The patty there's such a people left the coalition sending Bulgaria into a third parliamentary elections in two years. It's now trending to miss the threshold to enter next parliament so another project called renaissance is already being propagated.
@rolandssprogis6393
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan should study more on (a) who is Putin and what has he done since 1990; (b) when RU invasion in UA began de facto; (c) show me your friends and I’ll tell who you are! Who has been Putin’s (russia’s) allies and “friends”.
@MB2.0
2 жыл бұрын
*sigh* Then what does that say about the US and Europe who are allied with the Saudis, and who send cybersec experts to help Saudis spy on and torture journalists? This is geopolitics not a soap opera
@sd1082
27 күн бұрын
He was so friendly with the west at first.. Bush invited him to his house and said he trusts that man.. Imagine you being a genuine guy who is trying to regain financial and moral stability and the west continuously deceives you.. Takes you for granted.. What would you do, Gather the rest of the world and destabilise the base of the west - dollar
@jimw.4161
2 жыл бұрын
A civil, intelligent conversation... how refreshing.
@jaredflurry937
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure I agree that European energy dependency is the result of environmental wokeism. European states wanted cheap energy and weren’t particularly concerned about the mid- to long-term environmental or political consequences; that doesn’t strike me as “woke.”
@kienzanable
Жыл бұрын
Wheres the Ukraine part?
@SergiiBogatiuk
Жыл бұрын
I wish Jordan would come to Ukraine to see with his own eyes what russians did here. As bible says "Each tree is recognized by its own fruit", so Ukrainians recognized the hard way what kind of "fruits" the so called russian christianity produces.
@LevisH21
Жыл бұрын
I don't support any type of war but after hearing many times the fact that Eastern regions of Ukriane has a Russian minority population that wants to be part of Russia and not Ukraine, the logicla solution would be to let these Russian people and the Eastern regions of Ukriane be part of Russia. and Ukriane would still be the 2nd largest country in Europe. Ukriane is a big country. having AA Russian minority that DOESN'T like to be ruled over by a Ukrianian majority is the problem here. it also doesn't help that lots of propaganda is thrown around by both sides. Putin if course would use his power to stir up the pot and makes things worse. but this is your problem. you want to kick out these Russians from your country because they are no longer citizens? they are "traitors"? a middle ground has to be found and I just gave one. give up on Russian minority regions and probably everything will be fine and the war would be over.
@SergiiBogatiuk
Жыл бұрын
@@LevisH21 If I understand you correctly, you suggest that Russian minority should be able to dictate that some territories of Ukraine should be handed over to Russia. I don't think that sounds logical at all. Don't you think that Ukrainians who live there should have their own voice in their own country? I would be very careful with arguments like "hearing many times the fact that Eastern regions of Ukriane has a Russian minority population that wants to be part of Russia and not Ukraine". Hearing from whom exactly? Imagine, for example, that Turkish minority decides one day that some parts of Germany should belong to Turkey. Would that be logical for Germany to give up some of its territories? And considering all of the genocide, rapes, kidnapping, and tortures committed (and still being committed) by putins regime in Ukraine, how much of a middle ground do you think Ukraine should try to find with putin?
@cindiheaton1048
Жыл бұрын
@@LevisH21If they are the minority then let them move and let Ukraine be Ukraine 🇺🇦. They are just stupid and being pawns for putin. We aren’t letting Texas be part of Mexico again NO MATTER WHAT. The difference we’re powerful enough to stop them when Ukraine wasn’t.
@niallodonnell7827
2 жыл бұрын
Mr Peterson has some excellent relationship advice which involves having micro conflict over small things which then prevents anything becoming serious enough to threaten the relationship. It's like the difference between a noisy guard dog and a silent one who doesn't bark but mauls the intruder to death instead. You don't want the latter. You want the noisy one. The greatest inadequacy of the was west not any hostility to Russia or some cynical plot to undermine it but it was not barking sufficiently loudly and early and it has allowed Putin to make his deadly move which now must be confronted in order not to compound the western mistake and merely encourage an even more serious war later between Nato and Russia-because Putin is running out of non-Nato countries to attack. Throughout the Cold War the idea of mutually assured destruction kept the human race relatively safe with its defensive idea that any attack on each other resulted in assured destruction for all. But now western complacency has allowed Russia to throw out that doctrine and invade a neutral country while threatening nuclear annihilation on anyone who tries to help. Instead of ' I will wipe you out if you attack my country' they are saying 'I will wipe you out if you don't allow me to attack whoever I want'
@anewhopedawn6676
2 жыл бұрын
ur brainwashed by western media bro, ur so lost
@chiffa37
2 жыл бұрын
Is this what they tell you in the west? Lmao
@johntowers1213
2 жыл бұрын
*Instead of ' I will wipe you out if you attack my country' they are saying 'I will wipe you out if you don't allow me to attack whoever I want'* So western Foreign policy to a T in other words? ... The utter rank hypocrisy to even make that comment with a straight face :( The Russians are in the wrong here that is clear... but lectures from the West ring hollow like an empty pot.. its like an Arsonist scolding a mugger for the their criminal behavior
@niallodonnell7827
2 жыл бұрын
@@chiffa37 Yeah-Russia has a free press and we in the west don't.-Like we're going to take that seriously. Wake up my friend before he starts to conscript you into the orc army.
@niallodonnell7827
2 жыл бұрын
@@johntowers1213 Try not to be so hysterical. When was the last time the west threatened anyone with nuclear attack?
@idontSHT
2 жыл бұрын
Algorithm showed me less and less videos of mr Jordan P. I’m so happy to be recommended to his videos again 💜
@its_just_that_yeah
2 жыл бұрын
Stop relying on algorithms.
@richardhollis2530
2 жыл бұрын
Please get Alain Du Botton on your show
@richardhollis2530
2 жыл бұрын
@@commonwunder yep, you are right. I can’t even blame auto correct it was all me
@LothairApoclyane
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardhollis2530 Botton is equally a clown who should be brushed away into history, as the dust that they are
@cmath6454
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is the king of pushing stories on everything and everyone. Thinking he's contextualizing reality when human beings form judgements based on themselves. In essence he just describes himself and pushes it on others.
@brucemace5404
6 ай бұрын
A brilliant man with Wisdom Something that’s hard to find in the world today.
@oneworldonehome
2 жыл бұрын
"War is destructive. It is destructive to both the winner and the loser, and it sows the seeds for future conflict. The damage is not only to material things, but to the nature and character of entire nations of people who are traumatized. Humanity has not matured enough nor has grown in wisdom enough to recognize the absolute truth of this. That is why outright warfare in the Greater Community [of intelligent life], particularly on any kind of large scale, is extremely rare, particularly amongst secure and advanced nations." _Life in the Universe » Chapter 7: Competition, Influence and the Mental Environment_ - a free online book by Marshall Vian Summers.
@robertholland7558
2 жыл бұрын
That paragraph deserves to be on the front page of every single news service
@johnchapman5125
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@IBACb
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe 3 minutes out of 17 were relevant to the ongoing atrocity in Ukraine.. the rest is just more of Jordan Peterson holding court, as if how he decided on what to eat for breakfast had some deep philosophical significance.. What a narcissist!
@brexistentialism7628
2 жыл бұрын
Why would he be narcissist? Because you don't like him?
@thomasharkins3080
2 жыл бұрын
Typical JP. Making the war in Ukraine all about him and his pet issue. What a clown 🤡
@janglandis773
2 жыл бұрын
@@brexistentialism7628 Peterson has put himself under immense societal pressure by putting himself out there as an expert in too many diverse areas outside of his scholarship and making so many bullshit statements. There are so many wiser, more honest, more learned intellects for people to listen to on YOUTube. Intellects who speak from their actual area of expertise rather than going off on arrogant tangents like Peterson. i.e. The cringe-worthy pontifications and ludicrous positions posited by Jordan B. Peterson: He strongly implied that women wearing makeup in the workplace invite sexual harassment. He was called out on this so many times, he had to waffle walk it back. Rules concerning men arguing with men verses men arguing with “crazy women” are unfair because men can't hit women. An essay in which he stated hating Muslim people wasn't a bad thing because all Muslims are violent extremists. His lie that every country with a Muslim government gives the death penalty for blasphemy. His completely ridiculous statement that ancient people knew all about DNA and that the medical symbol of the intertwined snakes is proof of that. Corporal punishment should be used to discipline children-even two-year-olds. (Rule 5) If he'd bothered to do any research on this, he'd have learned that studies concerning corporeal punishment showed that even spanking has long term negative effects on children. Exhausted fanboy parents are going to see this as Peterson's stamp of approval and spank or hit their children much more readily. His statement that he believes medicine kills more people than it saves. Irresponsible because there are gullible followers who may not seek medical intervention when they need it. His dream about his Granny's pubic hair in the book Maps of Meaning. WHAT THE FOOK WAS THAT ALL ABOUT. His twitter comment in which he presented himself as an authority on objective standards of beauty for women (and then quit twitter because someone had the gall to call him on it.) His dishonesty and waffling about when he was asked if he believed in Christ/was a Christian. His hypocrisy concerning his own 12 Rules. When life gets hard, take Benzos. His very uneducated stance on climate change. (How arrogant. That's not his area of expertise.) His statement on a BBC channel that racism was not a structural problem in society His statement that there are no reliable chemical means to stop smoking he says, and then immediately brings up the use of magic mushrooms. His deliberate misrepresentation of Bill C-16. He out and out lied about the content/purpose of that bill just to get another 15 minutes of fame. What a despicable man. Statement to Kyle Kinlinski that Bill C-16 causes confusion and transgenderism contagion. His arrogance at retranslating the meaning of various Bible stories as though he has a direct line to God--or as though he is God. Next thing he'll do is write a third testament. Wonder what he'll call it. His latest claim is that Putin is attacking Ukraine because he doesn't want the degenerate ideas of the west to infiltrate his country. Yeah, sure, like Putin stands on such high moral ground killing all those civilians with many children among them. Not a complete list of Peterson bullshit by any means. Sorry I just can't respect the arrogance of someone who presents himself as an expert in disciplines for which he has no scholarship-climatology, theology, nutrition, pharmacology, economics, politics. Peterson quote: "I shouldn't say this, but I am going to because it is just so goddamn funny. I have found a way to monetize social justice warriors."
@IBACb
2 жыл бұрын
@@brexistentialism7628 read my comment, its in plain english.
@wyattgoodale2403
8 ай бұрын
pov your a waiter walking up to a table of professors mid convo
@spirokaci
2 жыл бұрын
Mr Peterson,why do you have to have an opinion about everything? Don't you think for a second that you might be Wrong?!
@dang4546
2 жыл бұрын
We have no idea what we will think next, and then, which thoughts will make it to our mouths. If we were present to this fact, and kept a question about who is thinking and whether we really know, it would be difficult to say so much, so fast.
@brutallyremastered4255
2 жыл бұрын
WTF?
@J-BiRTH
2 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite KZitem comments are ones like this, where you can't be entirely sure whether it's a wonderful and insightful piece of prose or the ramblings of a schizophrenic. Had to read this one a couple times, and I'm leaning towards it being the former, Cheers man.
@Brian-nt1hh
2 жыл бұрын
Really believe in the engagement of hospitality and enjoyment to support ideas of unity humanity and compromised change. Thx guys
@thomasweir2834
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so bored of hearing this self pitying broken record regurgitating the same thing, for every subject, over and over again. I wonder if he stubs his toe on a coffee table and blames it on ‘woke radical leftists!!!’ He hasn't grown intellectually, ethically or morally in year's. Every subject he's professes to be some authority upon and yet has the exact same conclusions no matter what. Lex was by far the more interesting partner in this conversation. JP needs to take a break and get a grip on his resentments and fears. It looks and sounds like it's killing him. He's angry.
@NastyDHL
2 жыл бұрын
Not only has he evidently not grown, he’s severely regressed
@MrFornicater
2 жыл бұрын
Peterson lives in an echo chamber...swatting against the ghosts of 'woke'
@vhufeosqap
2 жыл бұрын
He shadowboxes the “woke moralists” with canned language and outrage… and practices his grimace and snarled faces for the DailyWire content lol
@jmmone
2 жыл бұрын
People want to hear him speak. No one wants to hear you speak. Understand the concept yet?
@MrFornicater
2 жыл бұрын
@@jmmone People like you, now that's not a high bar is it, my friend?
@jcstuart6978
9 ай бұрын
Peterson absolutely nails when it comes to Congressman. They need/deserve our prayers and support. It's a terrible job and a calling by God.
@malina28202
Жыл бұрын
JP an expert in international relations is like Kim Kardashian designer of nun outfits.. Listen to my advise, JP, stick to what you know best: psychology. World affairs is not your thing.
@LevisH21
Жыл бұрын
because apparently the so called "experts" in the West have done such a great job with Irak, Syria, Yemen or Afghanistan. got it, my love ;) 😘
@brod7681
2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to meet this brilliant man, respect his views and objective thoughts.
@Super8888Baby
2 жыл бұрын
Lex, your interviews are generally of the highest quality. This one is not because Peterson is not an expert on the subject. Interview him about psychology. He is out of his depth here and it is boring.
@zabadackakaHansCoche
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Peterson the reasons why the conflict started as he ignores all of the real reasons.
@drizzal83
2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff minus the being a congressman part. Narcissists and some of the worst humanity has to offer.
@Dadagagarod
2 жыл бұрын
It pains me to see JP becoming Russia lobbyist.
@Stefansrb369
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's worst that British American and some Western European countries overthrev the 2014 governemnt,trained ukranian extremist. Why is US medling EVERYWHERE in the world accepted as the norm? Hollywood has brainwashed the world. NATO is global terorism. They bombed my whole country in 99 and created a criminal quazy state in our south,based on a fake "killing of civilians"(Actually Serbian polices protected our and šiptari civilians from OVK terorists,killed them,lay their weapons besides them. A filming crew came,they were german under US instructions,and moved their weapons and striped their amblems of their uniforms and then started "reporting".) That is Račak,a discusting lie,that destroyed a country and set it back a few decades. Not to mention they used uranium in bombs,which is not under Geneva convention,and even a lot of NATO soldiers got cancer and we are joining italians in sueing them. They are liar,deceivers,still colonial,and some who have the means are fighting back. I just wish americans,german and english would fight instead of slavic brothers from Ukraine,but the above mentioned are pumping weapons and making money. They left Avganistan but moved slightly NW it would seem.
@Dadagagarod
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stefansrb369 when russian bot answers to your comments on KZitem that's when you know you are right.
@Stefansrb369
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dadagagarod i'm not a russian bot. If anything,i would be a serbian bot,but i don't like my government very much to call myself that. I just see a sequence of events that have led to this. But you like what the US is doing for you,know this. They will fight Russia until the last Ukranian. But hey, keep just watching BBC news,im sure they tell all the truth all the time. Surely your not that naive ?
@antdavisonNZ
Жыл бұрын
listening to JP is like listening to fingenails on a blackboard, LF continues to be amazing
@Milohenry13
2 жыл бұрын
His reasons are essentially all hindsight. I mean, not very smart.
@541-RAIDER
2 жыл бұрын
Putin doesn't write his speeches. Follow the money! Putin listens to those that create wealth for him and other Russians with wealth. Wealth in Russia is made through energy, especially oil and natural gas. The rest of the world's dependence on fossil fuels feeds countries like Russia's oligarchy status. The west needs to continue to lead the world's shift from fossil fuels. The west also needs to be the leader of developing the recycling of natural resources used within the storage of energy. If the west can lead this world change, power within countries like Russia will be better distributed amongst their people. Believing Putin acts independently and creates his own political agenda is ignorant. War between Russia and Ukraine is predominantly based on the premise of resource allocation and control.
@TheSakufighter
2 жыл бұрын
Always some loser thinking they’re going to knock JBP down a peg or two. 😆
@JakubFerenc1911
2 жыл бұрын
At the end of this clip, JP ended with the idea that leaders listen and are giving the voice to the people. I also remember another talk/video where JP says that Adolf H. did exactly that, for such a long time and that's why he had such a strong rhetorical power. Because he was the mouthpiece of the crowd. A terrifyingly perfect one. My question for JP would then be: how to identify danger in being the voice of the people?
@RobMcGrath0
2 жыл бұрын
I do recall JP saying that Adolf H. and his audience created their version of truth together: He spoke and the audience validated his ideas in their response, together in this way they continued there communication and reinforced their ideas/beliefs. This is why JP says its so important to tell the truth or at least not lie. To your question: JP has answered it in some of his videos regarding what you described, i can't recall them accurately enough to paraphrase an answer to your question sorry, but if you search on the topic...
@brutallyremastered4255
2 жыл бұрын
When it’s being paid by some shitty Zionist publishing company?
@roberthertz6634
Жыл бұрын
Listen
@TheJorben89
2 жыл бұрын
I have not read the critcism to Peterson's opinions on this, but why the hell is he bringing up Western Wokism as a REASON For Putin attacking Ukraine?! That's a blatant projection of his increasingly semented world view on the culture war. This is either truefelt and based on his worldview and the different subjects which he is truly knowledgeable in, or a cynical move to capitalize on alt right soundbites (I suspect the latter to be likely based on my perception of him the last couple of years). Putin has in speeches often mentioned wokism as a sign moral decay of the west. I don't doubt that Putin actually believe this. But this is merely Putin painting a contrast between the "superiority of Russia" against the "weakness of the West", "us vs them". This is rethoric 101. At best it's a tool to mobilize support for the invasion, general socialal cohesion and legitimation of his rule, not a bloody reason for the invasion. Not really that sophisticated as Peterson claims, Putin and his advisors have simply identified the soundbites that Peterson has. Make no mistake, I have followed Peterson with great interest and have grown a lot because of him over the years, and I greatly appreciate that Peterson voices different opinions than what has become the norm on the war - in the true spirit of free speech. However, on the war I strongly disagree with his reasoning, and I've grown suspicious of his motives (although he still have valid points on a range of topics imo). This is just my somewhat hastily formulated opinions, I welcome differing ones.
@stefvanroey8191
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Even though i stopped being a fan ofhim years ago, i also have to admit his discourse is degenerating. He is wearing his biases on his sleeve now, and his motiveshave turned out to be very political despite him claiming to be free of ideology
@svietka202
2 жыл бұрын
I thought wished he would have stayed out of a subject he knows absolutely nothing about so unfortunate but I can see you his own greatness is totally going to his head and instead of sticking to what he’s good at which is helping people especially men finding themselves he’s going into a discussion that is way way out of his depth
@805Franco
2 жыл бұрын
12:50 My intellect tells me, that's because he grew up watching too many Hollywood movies and therefore when he sees American patriotism his mind associates the situation with the only American references that his mind is familiar with which would be theatrical Hollywood movies.
@johns.7297
Жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is an excellent non-linear thinker. Where is he going next? Can't tell, wait and listen.
@sabaiordanishvili2060
2 жыл бұрын
Just to add to this, it's important to consider that 1. There was already an ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine 2. It was always clear in Easters Europe that Putin would do something like this. As Jordan says, Putin has been declaring his intentions openly. So, the main mistake from the west (especially EU) was unwillingness to accept and prepare for what was to come (hence, the energy dependency). Another important point, often missing in conversations is Ukraine's POV. It's always about Putin and the west and what the latter could have done to avoid the war, but from the point of view of the oppressed countries around Russia, it was always either war or surrender. I think Jordan would agree since he points out that Putin inherited USSR's expansionist mentality. In fact, from the Ukrainian, Georgian and Moldovan perspective, they have been in war with Russia for years, even decades.
@marinodezelak1180
2 жыл бұрын
2 things come to mind. 1. The Meme the Ukrainian gov. posted online, where it shows different types of headache, and the last most severe one, is "having Russia as a neighbour", or something to that effect. 2. Putins off-hand remark in the months before he chose war,: "Nravitsya, ne nravitsya-terpi moya krasavitsa", translating roughly to: "like it, don't like it.. endure it, my beauty.”. Essentially saying that Ukraine must choose the peacefull path, because Russia can no longer allow Ukraine (or any other neighbourring nations) to do what the Baltics did and invite millitary forces into the country, from a super power nation that declared Russia an enemy. It seems at that point he believed Ukraine would choose to accept the Minsk agreements, because it was the only path to peace without Ukraine loosing face and Russia retaining their dignity... This leads me to believe, something happened between that statement and February 24th, something which made Putin believe fully that Ukraine will never accept the Minsk agreement, or any agreement for that matter, and therefore must be subdued by force. By your name I assume you're Georgian... You also had an American puppet for president who pushed to join NATO, when Russia chose to attack after Georgia innitiated minor clashes... Russia, and especially Putin believed the same about Georgia as he believes about Ukraine.
@Grgna1
2 жыл бұрын
@@marinodezelak1180 Good job destroying my arguments by figuring out my nationality
@marti6607
Жыл бұрын
Hello from Poland, that's exactly our point of view as well. Russia has always been an expansionist, imperialist power threatening its smaller neighbours and it will never change if it's not forced to. The Russians are very proud of their imperialist past and want to see their empire resurected. They believe that Ukraine is their "property" that was unfairly taken away from them and that its their "birthright" as a great power to be granted a sphere of influence in Eastern Europe.
@marti6607
Жыл бұрын
@@marinodezelak1180 What a bunch of BS. And how low to accuse tiny, powerless Georgia of being a "US puppet" just because it hoped for NATO security umbrella against its powerful and aggressive neighbor. In your "brilliant" analysis and suggestion that Russia had nothing but peaceful intentions in mind you conveniently omitted that 1) the war in Ukraine has been going on since 2014 and it was triggered by Putin's demand that Ukraine drops an association agreement with the EU; 2) Putin was not happy with putting his paws on eastern Ukraine and so in December 2021 he demanded a complete rollout of NATO from Eastern Europe - that was the ultimatum he gave to the US and NATO in exchange for not carrying out a full scale invasion of Ukraine; 3) not that it would be much to rollout since NATO presence in Eastern Europe is miniscule, especially in the Baltic states which hosted a tiny contingent of NATO forces that in no way threatened Russia (and let's remember that next door there is heavily militarized Kaliningrad with Russia's nuclear-capable Iskanders). Also, by your logic and suggestion that Russia's attack on Georgia and Ukraine was "self-defence" against NATO, we should soon be seeing invasion of Finland as well since it is just about to join the alliance and it shares a very long border with Russia. So when do you predict this happening our brilliant analyst??
@marinodezelak1180
Жыл бұрын
@@marti6607 "low to accuse tiny, powerless Georgia of being a "US puppet" just because it hoped for NATO security umbrella against its powerful and aggressive neighbor." They did not need protection, Until their president chose to antagonize Russia. "1) the war in Ukraine has been going on since 2014 and it was triggered by Putin's demand that Ukraine drops an association agreement with the EU" It was triggered when opposition chased out an elected president with the support of the U.S. It wasn't just Putin pressuring Yanukovitch, It was also his voter base in the South and East, as well as industrial moguls who's businesses relied on trade with Russia, and who feared they'll enter the better developed and wealthier European market from a disadvantaged position, with an underdeveloped industry. "2) Putin was not happy with putting his paws on eastern Ukraine and so in December 2021 he demanded a complete rollout of NATO from Eastern Europe" In agreements neither Ukraine nor their western partners were ever planning to uphold, Donetsk and Luhansk were to be reabsorbed into Ukraine, with the concession of giving them greater rights to autonomous decisions, but as part of Ukraine. This promise, then request, then demand of not expanding NATO control has been there since the collapse of the Soviet union.... And ignored. The only ones who actually naively believed this diplomatic solution would happen, were the Russians. "23) not that it would be much to rollout since NATO presence in Eastern Europe is miniscule, especially in the Baltic states which hosted a tiny contingent of NATO forces that in no way threatened Russia" That's because you don't really understand what the real NATO threat to Russia is... It's not the military capabilities present, although that is also a factor.. The real threat is geopolitical, sociological and economical. The U.S is the undisputed leader of NATO, it's their extension of influence.. That's the real reason the U.S foots the bill for NATO spending while the rest drags their feet. The other countries don't feel the need to be the ones spending a lot of money to ensure U.S geopolitical influence.,, The idea was that If the U.S wants it, then they should sponsor it. They made this worthwhile because this spending is going from the U.S taxpayers to the U.S MIC, while NATO member countries also put a lot of whatever money they spend on the NATO structure towards purchasing weaponry/munitions from the U.S MIC. Especially those without a good domestic arms industry. When a country enters NATO, they make an implicit promise to work against Russia in all spheres, not to fight it directly, but to ensure Russia can never enter negotiations with those countries on an equal footing, regardless if those negotiations are based in military security, or indeed economic deals or even going as far as asking for diaspora rights. Curiously you bring up Finland, which used to be one of the models suggested to Ukraine, many believed that "Finlandization" of Ukraine would've been the real solution to the tensions between Ukraine and Russia. sort of middle-ground. Ukraine would cooperate with NATO countries in military matters, but make assurances that they would not outright enter NATO and thus become hostile to Russia. Ukraine could have become a good transit country for Russian goods to Europe and European goods to Russia and benefited greatly from that position. Finland is now wanting to join NATO to punish Russia for their aggression against Ukraine, and they do so because it is understood that Russia can not afford to expand the conflict beyond Ukraine and is in no position to oppose it in any meaningful way, since they're already struggling there in the face of extensive U.S/NATO aid to Ukraine. This war isn't happening out of thin air. Reality is, Russia is pushing against the extensive efforts to isolate it, keep it poor and without leverage in their foreign policy matters.. This effort was always spearheaded by the U.S, which declared Russia their adversary the moment when they decided to expand NATO even after the Warsaw pact was gone, instead of rolling it back when it lost its original purpose of containing communism in Europe, Well... Communism was gone, but NATO doubles in size. It is downright delusional to believe Russia would just accept the idea of "Purely defensive alliance" when they could see exactly how increasingly hostile every new NATO member becomes to them, and how increasingly subservient they are to U.S guidance in their foreign policy in relation to Russia.. I'm from a NATO member country, we have a little common history with Russia... A few events always stick out in my mind, one such event, long before this war, was as simple as honoring Russian WW1 war dead who died as POW's in our country, we invited Russian representatives then, And IMMEDIATELY the U.S threatened with economic consequences to doing this. It was a simple act of trying to uphold some friendly relationship with Russia, and yet the U.S embassy was absolutely flipping their shit the moment they heard of this... suggesting every which way they could harm our economy for such a transgression. There's also something else.... U.S military industry was growing fat on contracts to supply everything for the military mission in Afghanistan.. But not long before war in Ukraine, they pulled out of Afghanistan completely, they needed a new reason to keep production high. Making sure any negotiation between Ukraine and Russia fails and provokes military action, was also ensuring the U.S military industry has a reason to continue churning out weaponry at a bloated price... And wouldn't you know it, business is booming, and Ukraine will pay the price, right along with the U.S tax payers. Even in this crucial situation, the U.S is still looking out primarily for their economic interests, pushing countries to send their German and French military equipment to Ukraine, in an attempt to then replace them with U.S made equipment and profit from becoming the main supplier as these countries structure their military around U.S weapons, pushing out other European arms manufacturers, making them ultimately fail and the countries becoming completely reliant and subservient to U.S will. This war has very little to do with Ukrainian "freedom and democracy", and everything to do with Russia pushing back against growing U.S hegemony... while Ukraine as the proxy, pays the ultimate price.
@danolivier4899
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, Russia has always been like this. You know nothing about this situation.
@sd1082
27 күн бұрын
😂 Foolish
@sd1082
27 күн бұрын
You can’t stop sucking your western media
@susandrakenviller3683
2 жыл бұрын
His 4 reasons for the invasion are all pretty ignorant. Not based on insight in Russian politics or history, but all about JP’s own talking points.
@devamjani8041
Жыл бұрын
So true mate
@valentinofshteyn9246
2 жыл бұрын
OMG, what a bunch of lies this guy Peterson is giving to you: philosopher Dugin? return to orthodox Christianity?
@aysbg
2 жыл бұрын
I am from a southeast European country. I was born here and now live again in the country of my birth. I have lived in US and Germany in the past and honestly, with what is happening in the West right now, if you were to put a gun to my head and say "pick between China&Russia or the West", I would have really tough time picking. The West lost its way some 25-30 years ago...
@jononioo2857
2 жыл бұрын
In your opinion, why do you say the west lost its way?
@xchen3079
2 жыл бұрын
Have you really ever lived in China or Russia? If yes, I don't think you will have a hard time to choose.
@paulheydarian1281
2 жыл бұрын
What if you found out later that it was a toy gun or a water pistol???
@jononioo2857
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulheydarian1281 and the water gun or you gun was "made in china".
@hardcoresb3
2 жыл бұрын
I'm from the west and I haven't lost my way. :)
@АлексейМунтяну-ю9й
2 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is so good!!! Just a man who feel masses!
@p.s.9972
2 жыл бұрын
You can tell JP is chronically online. His senses are skewed compared to 4 years ago.
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