I love your point about the term "Judeo-Christian" and that Jews & Muslims actually have more in common. I agree with you 100%.
@jedimmj11
3 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/pJemmoukcaSbZIo
@LordJagd
3 жыл бұрын
I think the phrase includes Judaism since its texts were inherited into Christianity without many changes, but Islam and the Qur’an have a lot of differences in the stories of the Tanakh and Nee Testament so there is less of a continuity there.
@ThaEzioAuditore
3 жыл бұрын
Especially considering the history of persecution that the jews faced in Europe and that, most ironically, the only area in Europe were jews we're allowed to prosper in peace was the islamic state of al andalus.
@newone5198
3 жыл бұрын
@@MitzvosGolem1 New Testament doesn't curse Jews. What are you talking about?
@davidozab2753
3 жыл бұрын
Useful charts brought me here! 😁
@vivalapalestine7235
2 жыл бұрын
As a Muslim I have become a fan of your videos I love understanding the history and tradition of my Jewish brothers and sisters Keep up the great work 👍🌙
@nananou1687
7 ай бұрын
And yet most muslims, would rather ask for death of their Jewish brothers, and the narrative for the same, is well reflected in your profile name.
@HikmaHistory
3 жыл бұрын
"KZitem's pre-eminent Muslim historian" I didn't know I was gonna feature in this video...
@ntluck1592
3 жыл бұрын
Lol I was about to tag you here. Two weeks too late
@wirtok
3 жыл бұрын
Ooohhh, new channel to subscribe to then
@AppleCinnamonPie
7 күн бұрын
And you didn't bother to mention in your video that the Banu Qurayzah's men were killed due to them committing treason and breaking their alliance?
@mastersealzunitycodez9223
3 жыл бұрын
Im a muslim, and im interested in your video, hope you make more video like this in the future.
@hassanabdulahi4705
2 жыл бұрын
@@yurichtube1162 okay?? He did not imply they were the same though, and thanks for stating the obvious btw.
@ahzamrasheed1208
3 жыл бұрын
I have never heard a single Jew in my whole life ever using the term 'Judeo-Christian values'.
@pardes7342
2 жыл бұрын
Most Jews are appalled by that word in America! There is no similarity between the 2 but actually butting heads most of the time. Xtians use Jewish terminology but changed their meanings to suit their doctrines.
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
@@pardes7342 wrong. Want to debate me?
@pardes7342
2 жыл бұрын
@@infotruther Xtianity is idol worshiping while Judaism is belief in ONE and only G-d of the universe. We live by the laws of G-d and xtianity thinks it is abolished. The Jews have a mission to rectify the sins of Adam while your man-god defiled and violated some laws of Judaism rendering him a heretic. What is there to debate or even reconcile between a 4K years old Judaism to a far flung 2K religion called xtianity who violated all the 10 commandments as the TORAH says and sees it.
@imgvillasrc1608
3 ай бұрын
@pardes7342 American Protestantism just being bizarre as usual. Heck, they consider Catholics non-Christian because we have saints, when us Catholics and Orthodox never worship the saints. If we do worship them, we'd say so.
@tartarus1322
18 күн бұрын
Ben Shapiro
@003mohamud
3 жыл бұрын
2:52 I think you are the only KZitem Historian to have included our city states in a map. Love from Somalia!
@25bloodfang
Жыл бұрын
Would yiu happen to have any history channel reccomendation? How did you come across this video?
@gabikogan7473
3 жыл бұрын
I think that when people say "Judeo-Christian" they mostly mean that Christianity literally came OUT of Judaism, it essentially started off as a just another Judaic sect. Islam, while drwaing inspiration from Judaism, was born independentally.
@jedimmj11
3 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/pJemmoukcaSbZIo
@LordJagd
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, this is basically how it's used. And it's a pretty recently invented term.
@tristotech
3 жыл бұрын
Of course, Muhammad wasn't jewish but Jesus was. Jesus sent to speak to Jewish in Jerusalem initially while Muhammad preaching to arabic people who never been jewish but still have bond with Abraham through Ismail tradition
@InfiniteCuriosity1210
3 жыл бұрын
It's not an inspiration from Judaism, it's a continuation of the same message as Noah, Abraham, Isaaq, Joseph, Moses, jeaus. It is the uncorrupted final word from God
@Jokkkkke
2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of that though (and I think its a fair point), I think we can agree that the term obscures the close relationship between Islam and Judaism, which contributes to the securitisation of Muslims in the West
@owenb8636
2 жыл бұрын
I taught English in Indonesia with a Jewish guy and we all had to pick a religion on our ID cards. Since Judaism wasn't an option he chose Islam because as he said it was the closest religion
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
Closes to what? Paganism? That would be true.
@tasinahmed601
Жыл бұрын
@@infotrutherhey christian why u so mad?
@LeelaSlayys
11 ай бұрын
@@infotrutherIslam closest to paganism? You need some religious lesson dude
@myspleenisbursting4825
2 ай бұрын
Yep. We have a small Jewish community here in Manado and they have Islam on their ID cards too
@deanticocombar7529
Жыл бұрын
Screw politics i as a muslim always love jews they are victums in history and history was cruel to them .We muslims are with our Jewish brothers in history and they are with us and we fight together against our enemies in history but unfortunately now because of politics we hate each other i hope by the time pass this hate will end ☪️🤝✡️.Long live Judism and long live islam together against crusaders . Remember in crusades we muslims and jews protect jeaursalam side by side
@raphaelreichmannrolim25
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the message.
@Artur_M.
3 жыл бұрын
Top tier collaboration and very interesting video, as always! I must admit that I never thought about the term "Judeo-Christian" as excluding Islam, rather simply acknowledging the Jewish roots of Christianity, often as a synonym for "biblical" or "having its origin in the Bible". You certainly gave me something to think about.
@emill232
3 жыл бұрын
It's often used in the US to purposefully exclude Islam from what they claim is western and US culture.
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Maybe inadvertently
@Alkes777
2 жыл бұрын
Arther M. The term may have originated before the invention of Islam. Additionally, Christianity is wholly dependent on Jewish scriptural tradition albeit a reinterpreted mangled version where they insert Jesus all over the Hebrew Bible.
@icysaracen3054
Жыл бұрын
Ironically when a Sunni and Shia dispute about Omar, with the Shia cursing Omar - Sunni will revert to Jewish sources describing Omar as a "good ruler"
@carljulien1556
2 жыл бұрын
As a Muslim I totally loved this video
@Aj-zr8dz
3 жыл бұрын
Coming from a Syriac-Palestinian Christian background whose ancestors followed Rabbincal tradition (along with Aramaic Targums) before the NT was eventually compiled and standardized, I personally feel somewhere in between Judaism and Islam. Both had a major influence on us and vice-versa, and all of us at some point and still do have conflicts with western fundamentalist "Christian" sects with warped and quite often bigoted views.
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
we jews do not believe in jesus as G"D who became flesh. We do not believe in the heritage of the original sin see pls the prophet Ezehiel chap. 18. G"D is a merciful G"D who accept a sincere repentance see psalm 51 in the Jewish bible. We observe shabbat.
@Aj-zr8dz
3 жыл бұрын
@@mariawolf5843 Some Jews do believe in Jesus and the first Christians were largely Jews. The whole "original sin" thing is more of a later emphasis by the western churches. Redemption for us is not merely about individual sins committed but about transforming the root causes behind what leads us to sin in the first place. Anyway, not all Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc believe the same exact way, and although that has led to conflicts, diversity of thought is what makes us human.
@isaiahkerstetter3142
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aj-zr8dz Are you in the Orthodox Church?
@DrRiq
2 жыл бұрын
Peace be upon you!
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
@@mariawolf5843 well I agree with what Jess believes was it David who said that I was born and concievd in sin
@abemi869
3 жыл бұрын
Historically speaking, Jews were quite more safe in Muslim lands than Christian ones. Be it in conquering Jerusalem from the Romans to the Reconquesta when Jews found refuge in the Ottomans. . Only in recent times (post ottoman) due to foreign intervention, the relation between Jews and Muslims became somewhat uneasy.
@InfiniteCuriosity1210
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Zionist Movement and Balfour declaration, expulsion Palestinians from their homes, ongoing confiscation of Palestinian lands, this is the reason for the uneaseness
@Bengy.
2 жыл бұрын
@@InfiniteCuriosity1210 This comment ignores all the hardships Jews went through.
@inoovator3756
2 жыл бұрын
@@InfiniteCuriosity1210 not to mention that even more Jews were expelled by Arabs
@oceanmachine1906
2 жыл бұрын
Both Jews and Christians preferred to live under the Caliphate than under Christian rule, no joke.
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bengy. well he's probably a mahamdan or antisemite
@shrimppaste1692
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work Sam ! As a muslim who use to love studying christan works and history in the past. Now, I study more and more of Judaism works and history. Peace brother.
@MPHJackson7
3 жыл бұрын
As someone coming from a Christian background, I always found the phrase "Judeo-Christian" weird, especially when used in contrast with Islam. If anything, both Judaism and Christianity have more in common with Islam than they do with each other. I can't think of much that they share that neither shares with Islam. So, are soldiers fighting over whether Isaac or Ishmael was on the altar? From what I can tell, the phrase was used in WWII (in contrast to Nazism), the Cold War (in contrast to Communism), and the War on Terror (in contrast to Militant Islam). The first two made some sense, but the last one seemed odd to me. It seems like just a way to talk about the Abrahamic religions to the exclusion of Islam. On a related note, from what I can tell, the term at one point used to refer to Christians of a Jewish background. My family has an old Bible with commentary in the NT talking about the contrast between "Judeo-Christians" and "Gentile Christians" in the Church. I found that interesting.
@SamAronow
3 жыл бұрын
While there are certainly people on both sides who would like it to be otherwise, the Arab-Israeli conflict has never been about religion- rather it is a conflict over land, national self-determination, and regional influence/political vision. Both Israel and (at least at the outset) its primary enemies are predominately secular societies, and in fact Israel was the first non-Communist country to have a non-religious majority.
@francisaltitude9763
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow please check the aramaic targumim on jersulam, targum neofiti targum jonatham. research the 2 temple belief of judaism , 1 enoch etc etc and you will see why it is called ¨judeo christian´ oh andcheck the nazarene sect mentioned in acts 24
@Mr9mann
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow wrong on too many levels. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and Iran are secular? Their narrative that the Zionists are white European converts that have no claim to the land. Even their narrative is faith based. The Mufti of Jerusalem, a major Nazi collaborator from Mandate Palestine, was also a clerical. For the early conflict that might be somewhat true, PanArabism was mostly a nationalist movement that wanted the land "arab exclusive", but the justification for the conflict is faith based in its roots. Take a look on early pogroms that happened in that area or ban on Jewish immigration to prevent "judaization" of the region that local Muslims feared.
@Mr9mann
2 жыл бұрын
@Julio Altamiranda according to Islam, a Jew or a Christian can live under the Islamic rule, but s/he has to pay jizya, a tax on being non Muslim under Islamic protectorate of sort, if you can call it this way. Also the idea of non Muslims ruling over Muslims is unacceptable too. Hence why we see total disregard towards western 'regimes' by the Muslim immigrants. Islam has come to replace Judaism and Christianity that it considers corrupted, they only get a pass because they too are monotheistic, so a Muslim man can marry a non convert women of these religions, but they have to raise their children Muslim to get them away from corruption of the two. The point is, the Muslim perspective is that these two should be completely taken over by Islam.
@Tamar_Ben_Daniel
2 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow religion still has a role in the conflict, the right wing government continues to build settlements and calling the west bank "Judea and Samaria" , Naftali Bennett was literally holding the Bible and saying that the West Bank is a part of the promised land in an interview with Mehdi Hassan, Islam also influences the Arab side, many verses in the Quran and Hadith speak about the 2nd rise of the Israelites and the war at the end of times between the Muslims and the Jews
@Rolando_Cueva
3 жыл бұрын
One day we will have peace again 🇮🇱🇵🇸
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
peace. Which peace pls?? I will be very glad if you could give a more explicite reponse thks in advance
@Rolando_Cueva
3 жыл бұрын
@@mariawolf5843 When Hamas stops bombing us!
@azote339
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rolando_Cueva when you stop bombing innocent people, destroying their homes and shooting people for fun.
@epicnear778
2 жыл бұрын
@@azote339 your government has to stop bombing innocent people and shooting peoples for fun just in the sake to keep them in power. Dude, get rid of your government, just join and accept the Eretz Yisra’el is not going to fall anytime soon, Israeli-Arab, Druze, Israeli-Armenian, Israeli-Kurd, Arab-Christian, Jews live in peace and harmony, we’re going to accept you in open arms, we don’t not hate you my achi (brother)
@FunkyJay
5 ай бұрын
If you have to ask "which peace are you talking about" you don't really want peace. You want destruction of one group so the other can have "peace".
@tanneradcox6520
9 ай бұрын
Not all Christians believe in the trinity. Now I wonder if those Christians would face the same backlash after a "same God" comment.
@navetal
3 жыл бұрын
It's good to see you uploading again. I hope you'll keep feeling well!
@playea123
Жыл бұрын
Only person I heard say that term over and over is Ben Shapiro
@theking7908
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps forget that the Umayyads weren't actually an "Arab Empire" but a tribal one a "Qahtanite Empire", they alienated half the Arabs.
@realmless4193
2 жыл бұрын
1:10 "The idea of having a relationship with God influenced by worldly affairs is simply foreign. If Jews lost the willingness to believe because bad things happened, this series would have ended a long time ago." How does this statement apply to anything other than the heretical prosperity gospel?
@RebeccaNM456
3 жыл бұрын
It's important to note that not all Christians believe in the trinity, I certainly don't according to Deuteronomy 6:4 it says "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might"
@SamAronow
3 жыл бұрын
That's true, but during this historical period I'm fairly certain that all extant churches (Orthodox, Celtic, Coptic, Syriac, Armenian, Ethiopian, Nestorian, and Malankara) did.
@RebeccaNM456
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow True
@ajzmn3538
3 жыл бұрын
Unitarianism is as old as Christianity but has never gained a foothold within Christian societies. Trinitarianism is the predominant belief of all major Christian sects since the Council of Nicea onwards. Edit: there are also theories stating that early forms of Messianic Judaism(Ebionites), which was notably Unitarian laid the foundation for Islam, and the reason why Christianity was predominantly trinitarian was because early Unitarian Churches in the Middle East became assimilated into Islam as they shared a common belief.
@LordJagd
3 жыл бұрын
@@ajzmn3538 It's a real shame since unitarianism makes way more sense and actually fits with the NT, Trinitarianism seems so extraneous.
@vincenzorutigliano5435
3 жыл бұрын
@@ajzmn3538 Messianic Judaism is a heresy from 19th century Britain. The jews who became Christians in the 1st century were trinitarian and apostolic.
@YousefBenIsreal
2 жыл бұрын
I was raised Christian but I love your channel, very informative.
@ridwanrahman6063
2 жыл бұрын
I never realized how interesting Jewish history is, Love from a Muslim Brother ❤️
@KarmaKraftttt
Жыл бұрын
Islam and Judaism is the same joke 😂
@maggyspace7319
Жыл бұрын
@@KarmaKraftttt cope
@KarmaKraftttt
Жыл бұрын
@@maggyspace7319 Yes i know you are coping!
@communistshqiperia
3 ай бұрын
@@maggyspace7319 cope for what? for not believing in easily debunked man-made nonsense? 😂
@maggyspace7319
3 ай бұрын
@@communistshqiperia Hoxhaist larper with no revolutionary potential, and likely no job.
@davidozab2753
3 жыл бұрын
Christian here (specifically Catholic) who also dislikes this term. It disrespects our differences and glosses over both past and current anti-Semitism among Christians. Anti-Islamic bias (such as claiming Allah isn't God when 'Allah' is the Arabic word for God) also infuriates me. Love and blessings to you.
@Aiman-yu6qg
3 жыл бұрын
@Bhi fee Allah is the Arabic translation of god and you could be considered the same way how Jews (the ones from Israel since I’m not 100% sure on all Jews) refer to god as Elohim
@Aiman-yu6qg
3 жыл бұрын
@Bhi fee It’s just a translation of god in Arabic since not only Muslims use it but Arab Christians also refer to god as Allah
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER
3 жыл бұрын
@Bhi fee it is short for Al Illah which means the god. Actually God has no name in the Tanakh either. YHWH means he will be. Haya/Hawa means being existing. It's the same as Yihyeh. God cannot be named and put into a box. This is why it was said to Moses:I am who I am. Your bias is unfounded.
@alexanderkarvos6728
2 жыл бұрын
@Bhi fee *sigh*
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
@Bhi fee love it bro
@craigpinkerton2701
2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. I am of one of the ancient Christian sects that to this day still rejects the idea of a trinity. Many of our teachings originated from Jewish practices that the disciples of Jesus still observed.
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
I subbed you so I can learn what sect you are and learn what you believe.
@milantoth6246
2 жыл бұрын
What sect exactly? the only non-trinitarian sect I know of are arians, but I can't find a lot about them either.
@saw7191
2 жыл бұрын
What sect
@Ari--d
2 жыл бұрын
@@milantoth6246 Mormons too
@revertrevertz5438
Жыл бұрын
@@Ari--d Mormons are rarely classified as Christians though
@muhammadkhateeb1487
3 жыл бұрын
Salaam/Shalom loved your video. Very informative please make more like this!
@Vanalovan
3 жыл бұрын
Good to know there is someone else like me who’s ready to rage against the term “Judeo-Christian” at the drop of a hat
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
And why is that you angry person you
@tyros4372
3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see this collaboration, love both your channels
@alexking3825
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for recognizing Khalid ibn al-Walid as one of history's most incredible military leaders. Question out of curiosity, why do you think that he's possibly the greatest general to ever live?
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
but pls we cdecleared war upon wars see serious historical books from important international professors from Jerusalem and USA. Muhammed ordered to cut the head of 800 jewish male accusing them of t having denied him to be a messager of G"D The women were enslaved and forced to convert to islam. Muhammad married a jewish enslaved woman whose husband was murdered the name is safya and today many muslim women s name is safya but they deny the true history forgetting the the true history not told in this report.
@alexking3825
3 жыл бұрын
@@mariawolf5843 WTF are you on about? Is that what my question was? Did you even read it?
@ShahTalks
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexking3825 well he never lost a battle and he used cavalry double encirclement tactics to crush much larger armies,he even used psychological tactics in battle like sending his troops away at a time and then having them March back to show he had a steady stream of reinforcements. His most daring feat was crossing the dead Syrian desert which had no water by extracting water from camels stomachs which before him nobody even thought was possible. Here's a video if you want more details as there's way more than I can talk about kzitem.info/news/bejne/14JpmYZrf2SBnpw
@videogames1926
3 жыл бұрын
@@mariawolf5843 are you on hashish or something ?! Where did you get this from?! Where are these numbers from? - The execution of these men, was just the application of the Jewish/Mosaic law, according to the Tanakh and the Talmud, for their treachery. Moses, Jesus (insert anyone who follows these scriptures) would have done the same. In fact, it was made by a scholar of Jewish scripture 5:20 (you might need to rewatch the video!) - forced conversion is not a thing in Islam ("there is no compulsion in religion" Quran 2:256. - Finally, you didn't answer the dude's question! So you were really out of context, and your comment was indeed useless.
@tukangojek1335
3 жыл бұрын
@@mariawolf5843 the tribe declared war first and the decision is not even came from Prophet himself but his companion like the video stated. Off with your phobia zionist
@sambarron1712
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I've always felt that the Judeo-Christian moniker was silly for the reason you cite, the closer similarities to Islam, but I also object to the name because it is used by some Christian groups to minimize Judaism as its own religion, to instead be treated as a vestigial branch of Christianity! Unfortunately my understanding lacks the historical context, but your video has helped alleviate my lacking in this regard.
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
You are fully right
@xijinpingsfavoritehemorrho1328
2 жыл бұрын
I get where youre coming from, but lets just look at the facts of the matter. The descendants of many different pagan groups living quite far from the levant adopted the abrahamic tradition and believe a jew to be their prophet, and follow the teachings of said man. As much as those beliefs evolved away from judaism, thats still very much the basis of christianity, its wholly derivative of abrahamic tradition. Antisemites are most likely to divorce christianity from judaism in their beliefs in my experience. Ive never seen judeo christian used in a way that does anything but acknowledge the root of western abrahamic religion, and how a set of values far more similar to jewish ones than former european values was adopted. I believe the muslim exclusion to be far more attributed to the holy wars and especially the attempted conquest of southern europe than anything else. Jews never invaded europe, and longstanding conflict separates people even if their beliefs are similar, see catholics and protestants in ireland. It can be argued that acknowledgment of jesus makes christians more similar to muslims than jews, its the conflict and its role in european history from crusades, to iberian islam, to barbary pirates, to present day friction between the two, while at the same time christian states were instrumental in israels creation and continued existence that causes christians to see more in common with jews than muslims. In short, the actual theology takes a backseat to real world events in the christian eye, especially when actual jewish philosophy is so hard to grasp. Sams videos really put it into context that between maimonides, The bal shem tov, and so many others, the average christian only knows yahweh is their god too and that means theyre related. Unlike jews, the majority of christians do have central authority especially pre reformation; its just not that nebulous. Such is the nature of a belief in which the messiah came vs one where he will come someday. Many might view muhammad as exterior and later to the tradition, as a false prophet perhaps, meanwhile all ancient jewish prophets are revered in christianity, even though that sentiment doesnt flow both ways. This creating a situation where they view jews as more similar than jews view them, in the same way mormons feel they are christian while many christians dont agree. Essentially c grows out of j, i is a different outgrowth and not part of c's tradition, begetting similarity between c and j, j is the base and sees it totally differently, and takes a theological approach to which one is closer to them, given both have a spotty record of treating jews in general. Theologics aside, the actual demographics of where jews leave and where they go in more modern times shows who they feel safer around, and maybe that counts more, food for thought.
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah how are wrong and need you study biggime
@irwincrook567
3 жыл бұрын
I believe whatever the religions on Earth the truth lies in Monotheism and the kind of God Islam and Judaism describes. For me these 2 are the only Monotheistic religions (or 3 including Sikhism) that really give a satisfactory explanation of God.
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
you are free to believe what do you like but pls as I respect you respect jews and other beliefs avoinding vengeance or destructive ideology. Thks for your kind attention
@tukangojek1335
3 жыл бұрын
@@mariawolf5843 i respect jews. Not the zionist treachery
@eho6380
2 жыл бұрын
You mean that a plagiarized religion and a Canaanite religion who both believe in a god who wants to burn you if you don't believe in him? I know this religion more than you do, and no, these belief-systems are made of pathetic, archaic people.
@keeshans5768
2 жыл бұрын
@@eho6380 the only guarantee for hellfire in the Quran is dying while having ascribed partners to god in your whole life. (Shirk) if one stops committing shirk (or any other sin) it is up to god to pass judgement, not you. Don’t invent things into our religion please, we know how much Christians like to do that with their faith, but not us.
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
@@mariawolf5843 please correct your mistakes
@OmarAlikaj
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that Al Muqaddima clarified that the Abu Qurayza were sentenced by one of their own, and the conflict with Jews of Medina were over what they did rather than over their religion.
@LutfisJournal
3 жыл бұрын
In fact, the Prophet Muhammad had Jewish blood from his great-grandmother Salma bint Amr an-Najjar... Wife of Hasheem. a Yemeni Jew from the tribe of an-najjar.
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
Documentation please?
@Uri131
3 жыл бұрын
Very good video! I'm also bothered by certain christian-americans using the term "Judeo-Christian". The adjacent growth of Judaism and Islam in the middle east has greatly influenced both religions.
@SamAronow
3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of pressure in certain American fundementalist circles to position their version of Christianity as a logical conclusion of Judaism. You see this in things like misappropriation of the shofar, books like the Left Behind series depicting Jewish rejection of Jesus' divinity as irrational and purely spiteful, or a certain member of Congress past publicly calling Jews "incomplete." Of course, this belief requires ignoring endless volumes of Jewish law and the lived experience of Jews whom most of this persuasion consider unreliable sources for reasons having nothing to do with religion, but that's nothing new; after centuries of hosting a Jewish population, Medieval France was scandalized to the point of national crisis by the discovery that the Talmud even *existed.*
@Uri131
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow Lmao I find it funny that medieval france was shook by discovering the talmud existed. Anti-semitic conspiracy theorists have recently found out about the talmud and they use it to justify claims about world domination.
2 things of note for me, 1. I am 1000% in agreement that the term “Judeo-Christian” is absolute nonsense. 2. I am seething with anger every time you say “Roman” instead of “Byzantine”!!!!
@fin9914
3 жыл бұрын
Byzantium is a term that came mostly out german theologians. East Roman is the correct naming.
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
byzantine term was born later despite the orient roman empire was at the beginning more correct. Thks for your excellent question
@Meirstein
3 жыл бұрын
Byzantines: I'm the true continuation of Rome! Me: Shut up Greece, nobody was talking to you.
@milliyetci5672
3 жыл бұрын
it's Roman.. byzantine is a fake name created by german
@calicoixal
3 жыл бұрын
Here's a great book for research if you're not already using it: In Ishmael's House. It is a history of Jews and Judaism in Muslim lands from the birth of Islam until the modern era.
@SamAronow
3 жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike. Simon Schama is not really doing it for me and I'm transitioning into using as much Martin Gilbert as possible. I'll be asking around Tel Aviv's used bookstores tomorrow.
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
and do you study the true history hidden by this video??? Pls consult the historical researches of prof Bernard Lewis. And you will be surprised... by the way christianity was in some way worst than Islam even it considered jews DHIMMIS. thks for your attention
@S0ulSUrviv0R713
3 жыл бұрын
OMG, this is Great!!! You started off with stuff I've come familiar with over the years, then......boOOom! 💥 Educational Explosion!! 🤯 Dammit, I love Learning!! High Five Guys! ✋🏼
@robertschlesinger1342
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.
@dannyboy536
2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe it's true that Christians are the ones using the term Judeo-Christian. I believe it's secular people that use the term, secular Jews too.
@dannyboy536
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's people that want to claim the values of the west as their own but don't have an understanding of theology.
@leegaesswitz181
2 жыл бұрын
As a Christian I totally agree that Jews and Christians do not worship the same God. Well said.
@baneofbanes
9 ай бұрын
Then you’re not really a Christian.
@davidchavez81
4 ай бұрын
As a person who grew up "Christian" in the western world, I would say when we say Judeo-Christian, we don't mean Jewish and Christian, we mean Christianity, which acknowledges its roots in Judaism.
@SandyRiverBlue
2 жыл бұрын
I wish you had gone into more detail about the differences between faith and belief, as you see it. It is a deep subject so I totally understand.
@maxi4182
3 жыл бұрын
The lubavitcher rebbe said it should be Judeo-Christian-Muslim
@Raptor810Blue
2 ай бұрын
This is one of your most contentious videos in my personal opinion, collaborating with someone who undeniably opposes the existence of Jewish autonomy in the Land and has spoken about such matters.
@sufijalal3842
3 жыл бұрын
MashaAllah nice job
@bobbobb4804
Жыл бұрын
"judeo-christian" refers to Chirstianity's Jewish roots, and depending on who you ask Christianity fulfills Judaism or just broke off from it. Most of Christian scripture is of Jewish origin, most of the old prophets were Jewish and Jesus and was a rabbi, and his disciples were all Jewish. Rabbinical Judaism and islam are more similar to each other than they are to Christianity in many ways though.
@Allenryan819
2 жыл бұрын
As a Christian I have to agree Judaism is closer To Islam.
@beslanintruder2077
2 жыл бұрын
Monophysites believed Christ nature was altogether Divine and not two nature's in one body.
@johndewey4352
3 жыл бұрын
But doesn't christianity also have the exact same hebrew bible? It cannot be denied there is at least a significant shared heritage. But keep in mind it's from the first century and as with most things history doesn't stop there, and later theologians in both traditions tried to emphasize the distinction at varies points.
@SamAronow
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the version of Christianity. All extant versions of Christianity that I'm aware of use a translation of the Vulgate, which pre-dates the current Jewish version, the Masoretic Text (though it's closer than their initial version, the Vetus Latina, which was translated from the Septuagint). Additionally, most Christian versions have the books divided differently and in a different order, and Catholic, Orthodox, and Monophysite churches have various additional books in the OT that aren't canon in Judaism.
@johndewey4352
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow Thanks for your answer 👍 Protestant Christians do use the Masoretic Text to my knowledge. Catholic and Orthodox I think rely more on the Septuagint. Regarding the order of books, it might be because they were originally scrolls and not in a standardized codex form at that time.
@SamAronow
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, nobody used the Septuagint or its derived forms anymore. Medieval churches realized it had problems.
@LordJagd
3 жыл бұрын
But aren’t those Christian and Judaic differences much less significant than those between the texts of Judaism and Islam?
@infotruther
2 жыл бұрын
@@LordJagd I believe they are.
@xberman
3 жыл бұрын
In Brazil "Judeo-Christian" is used as an excuse for conservatism hard line... it makes religious arguments sound like civilizational or cultural ones...
@JerusalemIfi4getU
3 жыл бұрын
From a fellow lover and student of Jewish history, this channel is great
@walidnoah3670
3 жыл бұрын
Hoped this video was about theological similarities between the two relegions as it started rather than the historical events that took place in the the region
@yakov95000
3 жыл бұрын
This channel is about Jewish history...
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
unfornatelly the descrepancies in the theology are really huge as jesus is considered the true savior of all humanity and secondary G"D who became flesh just to save from original sin of adam und even considered a heritage only to be cancelled by baptisme and cruxifiction of Jesus blood without this sa error acceptance we jews are nor reconcilaited with G"D neither saved according to them. So in eretz israel the missionaries are very activ as Islam in europe. Thks for your attention
@Notreallyhereanymore
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, it’s hard to find an unbiased Jewish source on things like this
@MM-vs2et
3 жыл бұрын
Judeo-Christian is a purely American term. Born out of American disdain and ignorance when it comes to Islam, and Muslim values I have never heard that in English texts outside the U.S
@historicalminds6812
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, these collaborations are great!
@eammonful
3 жыл бұрын
I know your point isnt to get bogged down in Christian theologocal issues, but you shouldn't group the theologies of the Oriental Orthodox Churches (Syriac, Coptic, Armenian, Malankara, etc.) In with the Nestorian Churches saying they place a greater emphasis on Jesus' divinity like that. If you were you put them on a line the Catholic/Eastern Orthodox/predominant protestant position would be somewhere in the middle on classical analysis, and merely linguistically different according to many contemporary theologians. In fact the Oriental Orthodox's main criticism of the Catholic/Eastern Orthodox position was that it was too close to Nestorianism. Its also probably not right to say that they place a greater emphasis on Christ's divinity. All 3 groups are Nicean meaning they recognize that Jesus as fully human and fully divine, but they differ on how those 2 natures relate each other. The Church of the East's theology (Nestorianism) could be said to place a greater stress on Jesus' divinity by dimishing his humanity, but its probably better to just go with the standard 1 sentence explanation of (probably more accurate to say it underplays His humanity by seperating His humanity and Divinity into 2 persons). Catholic/Orthodox say He is one person with 2 natures one fully human one fully divine. Oriental Orthodox say He has 1 nature that is both fully human and divine. Obviously that glosses over a lot of debate and reasoning about why it matters as well as firther technical distinctions like the difference between Miaphysite and Monophysite, and later Christoligical issues like Monothelitism, but that is the 1 sentence version. Love the series though.
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
but they consider jr error i jesus as the mashiah of israel the savior of the humanity just to cancel the original sin consider by all christianity an heritage of all the human beings as after the fall of adam and eve so the death entered into the world and nobody now according to them can do the good and reconciliate with G"D except by accepting Jesus sact error sacrifice of the cross and his blood shedding. But pls consult Ezehiel chapt. 18. thks for your attention so there is deep difference between christianity and judaism secondary islam discriminated jews and this video is forgetting this.
@jonyprepperisrael60
3 жыл бұрын
Love the new animation,keep the great work
@mafiamisteri
3 жыл бұрын
Could you explain more about Banu Qurayza and their origins? Great Animations btw
@daviddavies8454
2 жыл бұрын
Who are the Banu Qurayza? Are there any Jewish documents that would back up the slaughter of this tribe? How would you describe King David's relationship to HaShem?
@thames5328
2 ай бұрын
That oriental-y english font in the thumbnail goes hard
@TheLincolnrailsplitt
2 жыл бұрын
I am unsure about the legitimacy of her sacking, but the professor is wrong. The idea that Christianity worships the same God as Jews and Muslims is untenable. I rarely use the phrase 'Judeo-Christian' nowadays.
@baneofbanes
9 ай бұрын
Theologically you’re wrong.
@yoavba5706
Жыл бұрын
12:45 as a Jew from Israel grown up in a religous modern-orthodox household, I have never ever in my life seen the Hamsa being used as symbol of Judaism, it is generally used here by Jews from north Africa as an amulet against evil-eye (Ain Ha'ra עין הרע) Great video!
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
10 ай бұрын
Devils: What in God’s name is this? Why don’t you just say God’s words?
@Snailryder
8 ай бұрын
As a Muslim, it means nothing to us either...apart from some superstitious Egyptians maybe
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
8 ай бұрын
@@Snailryder This is magic, brother
@FunkyJay
5 ай бұрын
I believe it was much more commonly used before the formation of modern Israel when people switched to the star of David. It is also a very common symbol for Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews and is very common in diaspora communities like mine in Australia as it is slightly more subtle and more known as a symbol amongst the Jews. Rather than a star which everyone can recognise. Many of my family wear it instead of a star.
@tagmata1872
2 жыл бұрын
Just would like to point out that the term "Berber" is generally not the prefered or used term for the people and can be considered offensive, most of them go by Amahzig
@gregoryleake6260
4 ай бұрын
Judeo-Christian refers to values not theology. You have to decide for yourself if your values are reflected better in sharia law or Christian tradition today, not 1,000 years ago. Sharia law is not compatible with modernity for most westerners today. There’s the decent and the indecent, like Victor Frankel said, choose the decent.😊
@c.d.3273
3 жыл бұрын
5:03 Muhammad came to Madinah on the 10 Muharram, which would have corrisponded to the holiday of Tisha Be Av, not Yom Kippur. This day commemorates, among other things, the destruction of the Jerusalem temples. The description of the festival -being saved from the enemy and the mention of Moses - sounds a lot more like Pesach, perhaps the fast of the first borns. Usually jewish Holidays, especially the ones related to surviving, are celebrated with eating, not fasting. It seems several jewish holidays got mixed up... "It is related by Imam Bukhari on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas that when the Prophet came to Madinah he found that the Jews observed the fast of ‘Ashura. He enquired about it from them and was told that it was the day on which God had delivered the Children of Israel from the enemy and Moses used to keep a fast on it as an expression of gratitude to the Almighty. The Prophet thereupon, remarked that “Moses has a greater claim upon me than upon you,” and he fasted on that day and instructed his followers to do the same."
@oceanmachine1906
2 жыл бұрын
That is incredibly awesome!
@eho6380
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, then he plagiarized other verses in a pathetic way and got poisoned.
@Cjephunneh
16 күн бұрын
It is through the TRUTH that peace can be reached in the middle east. You are getting close to the truth, but not fully there yet.
@scepticmuslim
2 жыл бұрын
100% confirm! We as muslims have so much in Common with Jahudis that we are allowed to pray in synagogs when no mosque is there. And many rabbis said the same ...when jahudis have no synagoge, they can pray in mosques... Jahudis have the same God like muslims...we don t pray to anyother than God/Allah/Elahohim/Yahwe or Ilah in older jewish aramaec scriptures... We are the descendants of Prophet Ibrahim/Abraham as...the Jahudis through Prophet Isaak/Ishak as and we through Prophet Ismail/Ischmael as.... The only difference is that we accept Prophet Isa/Jesus as and Prophet Muhamad saw, too.... In the Quran Prophet Musa/Moshe as from Banu Israel is more mentioned than Muhamad saw...and we love Prophet Jacob/Ya'cub as and his son Yusef/Josef as and Zakariya as and we follow all Prophets of Banu Israel sometimes more than Yahudis do...for example the Laws of Musa as are till today the basis of Islam...first Law is our Shahada "La Ilaha Ilalah" "There is no god(s) except Allah/God"... And our foreforefathers said: and Musa is His Messenger and Prophet"....today we say "and Muhamad is His Messenger and Prophet" but without to reduce the rank of Musa as. And our biggest festival when we Slaughter a Cow/Sheep or something like that...we did it to remember Abraham as cause he was the first who did it and we cut our pen... after Ibrahim as did it.... And we lived with jahudis in peace and Harmony till today except the sad situation of Israel....and we are NOT against a jewish state...we are against the Things that happen to muslims....if Israel could respect the rights of the muslim cititizens, NO muslim would be against Israel... The history between Christians and Jahudis were always bloody because they re jahudis... But when something happend between muslims and jahudis; that was NOT because of their race or religion...it was anythingelse like political problems or broken contracts like in the times of Prophet Muhamad saw...they didn t fight the arabian jews because of their religion like europeans told us in schools...it was because they betrayed the peace contract and they helped the arabian pagans of Mekka to fight the Muslims of Yathrib(today: Medina).... Oh Banu Israel Descendants, never forget that we are since thousands of years friends and neighbours....when we were the most powerful Civilization...you lived comfortable and in peace with us.... Give us the same right after you are the most powerful Civilization today
@Spec-b1e
6 ай бұрын
Very informative and no biases thank you! 🙏
@qarabagazrbaycan8323
3 жыл бұрын
Azerbaijan and İsrael are brothers. Toda raba İsrael
@mariawolf5843
3 жыл бұрын
we are brothers because we jews consider all human n beings G"D s creature Israel is in some way in At arzabaijan just to control Iran threating israel to exterminate. Not because we do not consider Armenia despite we are supporting arzabaijan because it selling us oil for air aircraft as the rest the world particularly the radical islam and EU s policy are denying us. The relationship with arzabaijan is based only to a strategic military decision just to control iran s borders. We love all G"d s creatures with the hope one day to live in peace together by stopping bloody wars in name of policy and religion. Thks
@il967
2 жыл бұрын
You're not brothers. Just acquaintances.
@rt-ib3bb
2 жыл бұрын
It's the other way around - Mistaaravim comes from the Arabic Musta'arab which means "Arabized" or "Arabicized". I discuss it in my thesis.
@TheRoark
Ай бұрын
Christian here: agree about the term "Judeo-Christian" being mostly just a political term. I can see why westernized jews would see Christianity as more similar to judaism as many have assumed the values of western civilization which definitely grew out of Christianity as their own. The Christian and Talmudic traditions both have a common source in second temple Judaism, but to call Christian values "Judeo" does a disservice both to Christians and to Jews.
@SamAronow
Ай бұрын
It's admittedly more complicated than I make it here. The original context of the term was an effort by Eisenhower to project the idea that Jews and Catholics would no longer be treated as exotic curiosities in American politics following the Second World War, but obviously its usage has shifted since.
@adriandiaz8665
Ай бұрын
The berbers were largely christianized at the time of the Muslim conquest. Additionally, I feel like your video makes it seem that the Byzantine empire was some sort of corrupted state… it had fought a three decade long war with Persia, stating “destroyed itself is inaccurate.” It also seems like it glosses over the massacres of Jews in Arabia, and the loss of status the Jews had in Yemen. I feel like this topic always veers into orientalism. Like that the caliphate was benevolent, Jews and their status fluctuated with the time, but Jews were always second class citizens.
@Catmint309
2 жыл бұрын
“I’m going to pretend I know what that means” really got me giggling that was funny
@briansimons9472
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Islam has used both Jewish and Christian scriptures and traditions - especially Jewish traditions, makes it no surprise that Islam and Judaism are very similar. Hebrew and Arabic are very similar too, whereas eventually Christianity stopped using Aramaic/Hebrew and used Greek and Latin instead. The problem is that the Jewish tribes of Madina rejected Muhammad's claim to prophethood and the Qur'an as of divine origin. This led to extreme anti-semitism amongst Muslims so that the Jews were not treated well by Muhammad and the Muslims. We now have the paradoxical situation of two major religions which are very similar but so far apart.
@LordJagd
3 жыл бұрын
Also, some scholars suspect that the Christianity that existed in Arabia around the time of Muhammad seems to be closer to Gnosticism (including Mandaeism, AKA Sabaeanism, which is mentioned many times in the Qur'an) than the mainstream Christianity that was prominent further north and around the Mediterranean.
@enkryptron
13 күн бұрын
Khalid Al-Walid- Hero music intensify...
@myfatherwillkillmeifheseet2842
3 жыл бұрын
love this kind of video like connecting Jews and Muslims
@pauljosephbuggle3722
2 жыл бұрын
I never really understood the Judeo-Christian thing. Obviously, Christianity stems from its roots in Judaism but it's has a whole different theology and sensibility. So thank you for that. Indeed the links between the Jews and the Muslims around the question of Jerusalem are long running and profound. Christians are far more bit players in that area.
@SamAronow
2 жыл бұрын
It was originally promoted by President Eisenhower as a signifier that Jews and Catholics had become unequivocally part of the American mainstream after World War II, whereas prewar politics had been largely defined by rural, white, English-speaking Protestants trying to protect their declining political power from everyone else. Of course, the US has to a great degree reverted to the pre-war political order, just with some slight adjustments, so what began as a term of inclusivity became one of exclusivity.
@UnixGwen
2 жыл бұрын
You mention toying with the idea of doing a Hebrew set. I would love to see that!
@aminebenz1411
3 жыл бұрын
I also hate that word, Islam is "almost" Judaism except with a universal message.
@BS-vx8dg
2 жыл бұрын
I'm *loving* this video (I'm only at 2:23 so far), but I had to look up "Hasmonean Period" because I needed context; didn't know if this was during the time of Solomon or of Augustus.
@ShahTalks
3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel,your videos are great
@Mhszzhrn1
2 жыл бұрын
Judeo-Islam
@bandygamy5898
3 жыл бұрын
I'm Christian and view occasionally that Daoism and Tengriism are more similar to Christianity than Islam and rabinic Judaism. Albeit ancient temple Judaism reminds me more of High Church Liturgy and our very ritualised cycles in mass and outside (Lenten fasting etc)
@neroraul3550
Жыл бұрын
“I’m going to pretend for a moment that I know what that means.” - Me when talking about anything ever
@ProcessOverResults
2 жыл бұрын
As an observent, practicing, and [one would say Orthodox other than the fact that I'm] Sephardic Jew living in America, I don't see the Hamsa as a prominent symbol for Jewish religious tradition. In fact, I (along with other prominent Rabbinical figures) view the Hamsa as "'aboda zara" or idol worship, noting it's Islamic origins and the notion that the Hamsa itself has the intrinsic "power to ward off evil" rather than God or man's actions.
@Snailryder
8 ай бұрын
As a Muslim, there is nothing Islamic about that symbol. It seems to be Egyptian folk thing, maybe from when the Shias ruled, as it is known as the 'Hand of Fatima' apparently. Most Muslims will not have heard of this thing.
@mistermagoo8685
2 жыл бұрын
The term “Judeo-Christian” came from the 1950s in the United States. It was a way for people of Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish faith to form a political Coalition, despite years of discrimination. So when people are using that term they’re harking back to that coalition.
@fouadhoblos3611
2 жыл бұрын
I have a question I always wanted to ask to a Jew or someone who studies judaism: Islam in the Qoran claims that Jews universally believe in a certain "Ozair", Arabic عزير who is the son of God in the same sense of traditional Christianity.. Quran 9:30.. For somebody who reads the bible only, like me, never finding something like that, my question is: Was there ever even in some minority Jewish sect or anything in the Jewish classical literature, religious or not, anything about that? Please point the reference.. I'd be thankful..
@abiryaakovalmoznino3395
2 жыл бұрын
Well I’m not sure abt my knowledge of islam but Jews only believe in 1 god. Allah equals our Hashem if the Quran does say this and points us as the same as Christianity then it’s an obvious mistake
@teehee4096
7 ай бұрын
It is likely a simple error made by Muhammad. No disrespect meant to Muslims by that statement. There is simply no evidence of a Jewish sect worshiping Ezra.
@communistshqiperia
3 ай бұрын
@@teehee4096 That Muhammad made errors is nothing new, happens to all humans, especially when they are schizophrenic.
@francisaltitude9763
3 жыл бұрын
shalom brother, you have a nice channel with good content. I have a question tho, do you ever go live and allow discussion/question via skype (or other medium) that would be interesting. have a nice day God bless
@nskeow
3 жыл бұрын
I think it could be that Jewish-Christianity disappeared for the most part but was preserved in Islam. Hence the similarities.
@nskeow
3 жыл бұрын
So funnily enough, when the usual suspects talk of Judeo-Christian values they don't realise they're actually talking about Islam lol.
Interesting video, but just one point. You claim that both Monophysites and Nestorians put more emphasis on Jesus's human nature, but this is incorrect. The Nestorians certainly did, but the Monophysites actually went in the OTHER direction, placing more emphasis on his divine nature than his human nature. The current mainstream (Calcedonian) position is generally seen as the middle ground between the two, placing equal emphasis on both.
@danielkover7157
9 ай бұрын
I think there's a lot of--or used to be a lot of--people in the non-religious/atheist/agnostic community that have used the term "Judeo-Christian," also. (I don't know how common it is now, because I haven't really kept up to date on the goings on in that community.) In my experience in that community, it seems to be used to describe religious influence in Western (particularly American) culture and politics. As a former Christian, I've used the term myself in this manner. Having been a Christian once, I think it's because many Christians (the ones who aren't anti-semitic) see Christianity as having been born from Judaism, though with a very Christian p.o.v. of the process. I think you're right, though. Whatever Christianity and Judaism may have had in common back in antiquity, Christianity moved away from it almost completely, to where they have very little in common except for some names and details. And listening to your take on that term, and having watched you series thus far, I can see how that would be problematic. Thank you again, Sam, for putting together this series. I'm learning so much more than I ever have before about Judaism and the Jewish people., exponentially more than I ever could have in my previously religious life.
@zjzr08
9 ай бұрын
I do think that term (I think I heard Mr Beat saying about this) is used for how these religious dogmas influenced secular Western countries now rather than necessarily the similarity between the two, the so-called "Western values" (add some Roman Empire dogmas too).
@snbjornbrynjarsson4705
2 жыл бұрын
Judeo-christian is a veeeery recent term. I thought it was from the 1950s, an american political invention/cold war propaganda, but I looked it up and the wiki says it is 19th century german, Judenchrislich, used by Friedrich Nietzche, which isn't much better...
@Testimony_Of_JTF
10 ай бұрын
Just a correction: "Judeo Christian" is mostly used by Jews or Jewish organizations, like Ben Shapiro or Praguer U. Traditional Christianity has always treated Jews as no more than heathens, not some close ally (no offense).
@eduardobenitez4584
8 ай бұрын
Many pro-Israel Christians and Christian Zionist organizations are very anti-Semitic.
@morganpetros9635
2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the term "Abrahamic" because they all come from the same place, though since I'm an atheist, I find all religions equally idiotic no matter what similarities or differences they have.
@kuroazrem5376
3 жыл бұрын
Very good video, however you made a slight mistake in the map of North Africa post anit-ummayad revolution, and it is that the Bargwhata didn't control all of Morocco, they only controlled the coast. Most of the country was controlled by the proto-Shia dynasty of the Idrissids. And Algeria was controlled by the Ibadi sect under the Rustamid dynasty.
@SamAronow
3 жыл бұрын
Not in 749. The Idrisids and Rustamids established themselves 30-40 years later. I've already made the maps for that period.
@kuroazrem5376
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow but neither did the Bergwhata. All Imazighen (Berbers) west of Tunisia were joined under one single Kharijite Imam.
@SamAronow
3 жыл бұрын
The Barghawata, Ghowara, and Miknasa were all part of the Great Berber Revolt, and while they were initially united under Maysara, I decided to simplify the map by skipping ahead to 749, after he had been deposed.
@kuroazrem5376
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow wow you did your homework. Few people even know that happened, congrats! I'll subscribe to your channel.
@aminebenz1411
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow best channel ever dude, i like the depth of details!
@Alahadinc
2 жыл бұрын
Here is a telling verse in the Quran (Ch. 5: 82 - Yusuf Ali Translation) "Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant."
@danielaviezer3846
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was wondering why in your videos about the early middle ages, your refer to the byzantine empire in your maps as the Roman empire? Is there a debate as far as naming or is it your personal choice to refer to it as such?
@danielaviezer3846
2 жыл бұрын
Got it. thanks
@WagesOfDestruction
2 жыл бұрын
I find up when I look up Muslim scholars decisions on topics, their response is very similar to Jewish decisions.
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