To see more style on Style fights, please go to this playlist: kzitem.info/news/bejne/o6KnvKpmp2KrfYI Also, to see how to do a kimura lock (that we saw in this match): kzitem.info/news/bejne/tKSC266AomRkgHY To see how to do an arm triangle (that we saw in this match): kzitem.info/news/bejne/wGamn2R5bF9nZXY To see a Judo vs Muay Thai match, please go here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/zKuCzKKvqqmkp2U
@agnikaineverdies7646
4 жыл бұрын
Fight Commentary Breakdowns, btw it’s not judo it’s Japanese jujitsu, judo has no strikes in it
@Brandon01.
5 жыл бұрын
Im so tired of this ref standing them up when the judo guy is clearly in a dominant position and actually working on the ground.
@geryquin4214
5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Clark thats the thing though, the Judoka was taking his sweet time establishing dominance and control thus stalling. They also got to keep entertainment in mind, and honestly at a black belt level vs a non grappler, a Judoka should be able to submit fairly quick and easy.
@mjveciana7364
5 жыл бұрын
I wanna kill that ref 😄🤯
@jovanleon7
5 жыл бұрын
It's the rule, this isn't MMA.
@Rotinaj37
5 жыл бұрын
Gets full mount, ref immediately stands them up. Lol what a joke, regardless of what the rules are, that shouldn't be the rule!
@Agbahizzal
5 жыл бұрын
If u listen n understand Japanese, u can hear a countdown after the first takedown.
@Sr.D
5 жыл бұрын
Wtf it's wrong with the referee? Every time the judoka starts doing newaza or ground work he stops the fight? Wtf?
@BiggieSmokes187
3 жыл бұрын
Ikr thats the way of judo its like submission how is the judo guy gonna win instantly if the referee is stopping him
@saysamnang9851
3 жыл бұрын
@@BiggieSmokes187 yeahh like bruhh judo is a ground martial if your gonna compare them both your gonna allow them both to have advantage and tkd can have advantage at kicking just like the martial art teach you and judo have the advantage on the ground if you don’t allow ground game then don’t bring judo to it because judo is a ground martial art
@ethanyeo2997
3 жыл бұрын
If I’m not wrong this event is called Ganryujima and there’s a dumb rule where there’s a 15 second timer on going to the ground
@gritharanmunisamy2722
3 жыл бұрын
Referee taken money from tkd guy, i think
@enso8762
2 жыл бұрын
korean referee maybe
@godzilladude1231
5 жыл бұрын
Title alone I already knew who was going to win
@RyanOstarineGarcia
5 жыл бұрын
theyre both trash lol
@andrew1234856
5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanOstarineGarcia doesn't make you sound civilised nor clever .
@martialartstips5177
4 жыл бұрын
@@RyanOstarineGarcia you seem fun
@anthon2915
4 жыл бұрын
Chad Literally Nicholls idiot.. these are high level fighters
@samuraiisalmighty4917
4 жыл бұрын
Tkd is good are u saying its bad
@Explorshon123
5 жыл бұрын
When I first started trying different martial arts I did Tae Kwon Do for a while and I remember I fell on my arse once practicing high kicks. The class laughed but the teacher made me feel better by telling me he has done if before too.
@MrMark-hm9lk
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone who ever learns kicks falls including the punks who laughed at you for falling
@nattybynature1262
5 жыл бұрын
I fell flat on my back and laughed at myself for a good minute 😂
@edrichlouw1790
5 жыл бұрын
A guy at our club got a concussion and I nearly broke my arm. Unless you’re slacking you’ll probably fall once kicking in the beginning.
@PS-rb5fw
5 жыл бұрын
Explorshon I’ve fell while throwing a kick too but it wasn’t in front of anyone
@MyJackel13
4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@leonardipayne6032
3 жыл бұрын
The Judo guy exposed two weaknesses of 90% of TKD practioners. They rely on kicks too much and haven't been trained in punching, blocking and grappling (which does exist in TKD). The second is TKD is really shyt for sparring, more so than alot of other MA.
@garynaccarato4606
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest in Tae Kwon Do throwing punches during a match as well as sparring is not really totally against the rules per say but the reason why punches are not really used or seen are mainly because punches are not allowed to be thrown to the head,punches that are considered to not have hit hard don't count and plus compared to other techniques a punch tend to score so low on Tae Kwon Dos point system that they practically don't even really count for anything anyway and thus all of those factors make punches despite not being totally illegal not really worth it to try to attempt and in Tae Kwon do and even though certain other stuff which is not really practiced in a fight or sparring are done in pre arranged forms those prearranged forms do not really necessarily do the best at preparing you to perform techniques in an actual match or fight especially when you haven't actually been using them in competitions or practicing them during sparring.
@kennethrogers1129
Жыл бұрын
Not old school TKD, which is like karate, in our style we practice old school Tkd, plus judo and hapkido for a comprehensive martial art.
@leonardipayne6032
Жыл бұрын
@@kennethrogers1129 I practice old school TKD taught directly to me by 1 of the 3 original masters that came to the US to teach, GM Sang Kyu Shim. So yeah, I am aware of the difference in traditional TKD and the McDojos that started popping up in the 80's that comprise the majority of schools and their successors out here.
@goblin-night
Жыл бұрын
In MMA a "TKD fighter" is actually a "sprawl and brawl" fighter, especially if you are specifically facing a Judoka.
@comunicadosbicaf3921
Жыл бұрын
He is not a Judo guys, He has used Japanese jiu-jitsu techniques
@Chosen5678
5 жыл бұрын
What kind of BS fighting is this? Ref saved that TKD fighter consistently from being finished.
@subhabratadas8419
5 жыл бұрын
One day I fought in school with a guy who did wrestling. He pushed my karate brown belt up my arse.That was 25 years ago. My son does wrestling now.
@jean4j_
5 жыл бұрын
@@tidakada7357 I wouldn't know if Okinawan were good wrestlers or not. But Okinawan karate had a close combat main focus. Japanese made a Japanese martial art out of karate by using their Kenjutsu, Aikijutsu mindset which obviously don't really work for hands to hands combat. To me karate is cool but it's more a promotion and a way to keep Japanese medieval fighting culture than anything. However I have to say modern karate is amazing for speed and explosiveness.
@draco_1876
5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. I don't do wrestling( I am a kickboxer) but I know takedowns and takedown defence I created my own style. Wrestling is highly effective. That's great your son is doing wrestling he will become a strong athlete.
@chan875
5 жыл бұрын
Elijah A primary karate practitioner will never out wrestle a wrestler... karate takedowns and defenses are very basic in grappling
@ruderocky1431
5 жыл бұрын
You must have been a shitty student.. either that or your checks cleared..
@draco_1876
5 жыл бұрын
@@ruderocky1431 no dumbass. He went against a wrestler. Those guys are top notch athletes.
@jaybee7271
5 жыл бұрын
Instead of "is judo guy gonna win?" you should've asked "after which kick is the TKD guy getting taken down and smashed?"
@eduardoperi9897
5 жыл бұрын
Tkd guy did not know how to mix in his kicks at all
@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin
3 жыл бұрын
TKD guy shamed us, he should of thrown more quick side kicks and unpredictable back hook kicks to his legs and body.
@carlosandres1835
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin tkd dont hit legs
@kimpavfx
2 жыл бұрын
@@carlosandres1835 yeah we do
@user-td8fn3zv3g
2 жыл бұрын
@@kimpavfx no yall dont i did tkd for 4 years and not one leg kick is taught
@FlipGamerOnABudget
5 жыл бұрын
3:58 imagine if that was pavement. judo is scary.
@dited358
4 жыл бұрын
A friend did that to me on pavement, it hurt a bit but I can ignore pain, I swiftly put him in an arm bar cause it was convenient.
@theepidemicoflife6597
3 жыл бұрын
@@dited358 R/that happened
@BiggieSmokes187
3 жыл бұрын
@@dited358 ill just bite your leg if you do arm bar on me lol
@manu11.20
3 жыл бұрын
@@BiggieSmokes187 you gotta do what you gotta do
@rindagnir1470
3 жыл бұрын
@@BiggieSmokes187 yeah the jaw has the strongest muscle in the body
@chadelliottfahlman
5 жыл бұрын
The judokas skills weren't an issue. It was the format.
@The13point1
5 жыл бұрын
Chad Fahlman the format wasn’t the issue. It was the judoka.
@chadelliottfahlman
5 жыл бұрын
@@The13point1 horseshit. They were stood up after mere seconds.
@Mrraerae
5 жыл бұрын
@@chadelliottfahlman Second time he got the TKD guy on the ground, he just went into full mount and got the hooks in, he gets stood up. I was like WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
@AlejandroCab98
5 жыл бұрын
he should have gotten an armbar much quicker
@juliorosenberg2222
Жыл бұрын
My Tae Kwon Do instructor was a 7th Dan taught from general Choi in Korea. He was taught many throws takedowns and grappling techniques at black belt level
@McGeezle
Жыл бұрын
Do you really think those handful of moves are enough to cover you against a whole system like judo or bjj
@loganyoutube5418
Жыл бұрын
My sensei can’t compete in mma because he is too deadly
@kennethrogers1129
Жыл бұрын
Moo Sul Kwan , we do judo, hapkido and taekwondo, to have comprehensive martial art skills, takes a long time to learn all that, out original GM advised to get a black belt in one first , then add the others. Hapkido is my favorite, and use TKD and JUDO for combat experience, however limited by rules for safety. Apparently in this match low kick , elbows, knees were illegal, and the Tkd guy had no grappling experience , not smart.
@flowrepins6663
Жыл бұрын
@@loganyoutube5418 this isnt a real thing if he was too deadly he would be a champion without effort. fedor is deadly. jon jones is deadly.
@lukegigli1427
Жыл бұрын
@@McGeezlefuck judo and bjj
@destructure5684
4 жыл бұрын
Dumb rules, let the judo guy do his work.
@BiggieSmokes187
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the referee was f-ing idiot cuz thats the way of judo
@jestfullgremblim8002
3 жыл бұрын
Guys... judo rules aren't like in bjj. If you take too long to do a submission then the 2 judokas get to their feet again. So this is fair for the judoka because this is how they compete anyways
@eadentorgeman3766
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the judo guy went easy on him...I mean he could have chocked him in a matter of seconds when the taekwondo guy was on the ground. And with gloves imagine how difficult it is.
@HunGerMovies
11 ай бұрын
I think the gloves and the lack of gi bothers him a bot. I bet the grip is not too good in those gloves.
@flowrepins6663
5 жыл бұрын
Behold the only two arts to make it to Olympics and lost a shit ton of effective self defense doing it
@Mordowx
5 жыл бұрын
How about seeing them as "sports" and not entirely MAs, because some of the techniques are forbidden in competitive style.
@XolotlMictlanJuarezGutierrez
5 жыл бұрын
@@Mordowx Thats right. Only sports; one more "mutilated" that one. Sorry for my comment... The TKD actually buy smoke. At least in my country.
@Horus-Lupercal
5 жыл бұрын
Damn. Hurts harder than a Cro-Cop head kick.
@CommunismiEstCacas
5 жыл бұрын
Boxing, wrestling?
@SeanWinters
4 жыл бұрын
@@CommunismiEstCacas as far as boxing us concerned, the Mayweather style of running out the clock, wearing the opponent out over 10 rounds... It's a great and smart strategy for boxing, awful for a fight. Bar right, Tyson v Mayweather, Tyson wins.
@charvikripalani2270
5 жыл бұрын
Woah! Takewondo dude’s kicks had some amazing form n balance. (Except for the failed spin kick, but lol that happens)
@sfkingalpha
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting seeing as I've done both.. and have the same feelings toward TKD as Joe Rogan. I did it for YEARS and it left me with no hands and no grappling at all. At least I can do Judo and sporadically burst out some Hwarang tekken kicks.
@osmiridium
2 жыл бұрын
I've tried to do Hworang kicks (like front- back- side) combos and I can see how people fall on their asses trying that lol
@chandlerkirkland475
4 жыл бұрын
I think in Judo there is a rule where you only have 15 or so seconds on the ground to get the submission. So I think the rule set they were fighting under had a similar idea to that. So even though it’s annoying to not being able to see the Judo guy work on the ground that’s probably the same amount of time he’d get in a Judo match.
@pattyorigami
5 жыл бұрын
I believe the arm triangle failed because he was only locking it up with a gable grip. He needed to slide the neck hug through deeper to grab his bicep, similar to the RNC. I'm sure the gloves made it difficult to do that.
@harageilucid4352
5 жыл бұрын
This is pissing me off how the fight keeps getting stood up lol
@anangrytexan2244
3 жыл бұрын
This is from a production called Ganryujima. The rule set includes rules that govern ground fighting. Most fights can only be on the ground for 15 seconds at a time, but special rules can be agreed upon by fighters to increase the ground game to 30 seconds.
@enderwarlord3226
2 жыл бұрын
Are knee/elbow strikes allowed?
@Grapplersenpai
5 жыл бұрын
I already knew the rules would be biased against the judo guy tbh.... But the thing is,I'm a brown belt in karate but stopped training for 3 years but trained in judo for 2 years..... Once I got into MMA shortly after turning 19 most of my karate went out the door and my judo was the only thing that (kinda) saved me.... I'd think it would be the same for TKD in my honest opinion
@jonathanhoward1499
Жыл бұрын
Karate and tdk are just fine. You need to spar tho. And you need to cover the four parts of martial arts, punching, kicking, wrestling, and submission grappling. If your karate went out the door you were no good. Same for taekwondo, same for judo. That's like a boxer not punching in mma sparring. No good.
@tk5800thesecond
Жыл бұрын
5:19 There is Atemi-waza, or strikng techniques in Judo, depending on where you train you may or may not be taught it. I train the Olympic Rules Judo so we dont learn Atemi-waza (but the coachs their throw in self defence stuff as well)
@ubermenschhoodrat7288
3 жыл бұрын
Judo guy actually went for a leg sweep 1:28
@Docinaplane
3 жыл бұрын
The rule set was a little confusing. I think they limited ground time to the 10 second judo rule and there were no leg kicks, I think.
@donaldduke2233
3 жыл бұрын
It seems like Rule #1 was "If the Judoka is winning, stand them up".
@carnivalwrestler
5 жыл бұрын
You'd give it to the TKD guy???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WIth all of those kicks and punches that you say landed, the Judoka didn't even slow down, or stagger, or...... You have no reasoning skills, period. If the judoka accomplished nothing in 4 seconds, the ref stood him up. But when the TKD guy did the chicken dance and ran away for 30 minutes at a time, they didn't put him on the ground with the judoka on top of him, which would have been the only fair thing to do. EVERY TIME THE JUDOKA STARTED TO WIN, THE REF STOPPED HIM. But they let the TKD guy do the Mayweather dance. Even at that, the Judoka entirely won that. But the judoka should learn some judo. He could have easily done a gi choke on him at one point. Several armbars, the triangle, etc., were within easy reach, and he couldn't finish the Kimura. But he still won that by a huge margin. You don't get points for glancing blows in boxing, I don't see why you should in full contact TMA fighting.If there had been any good kicks or punches, the judoka would have gone down, or staggered, or been k.o.'d
@geryquin4214
5 жыл бұрын
carnivalwrestler The Tae Kwon Do fighter seemed like the better fighter overall, and had an impressive fight IQ. The Judoka was almost retarded in comparison as far as fight IQ goes.
@carnivalwrestler
5 жыл бұрын
@@geryquin4214 Facts matter far more than your assumptions.
@carnivalwrestler
5 жыл бұрын
@El Bottoo Boxing is my favorite sport and favorite technique for street fighting. I've been a boxing fan since I was a kid, and I got to punch Gene Fullmer in the plexus when he was champ, if that tells you anything about how long I've been into the sweet science. LOL, when the bjj dudes start selling their propaganda about 90% of the fights going to the ground, they must be a) talking about third graders, or b) talking about my fights, where I hit my assailant, and he goes to the ground (or just doubles over wishing he had never been born). When a tkd guy lands a kick on your head cleanly, you're going to know about it ... when you eventually wake up. To be fair, I think this tkd guy was slow, don't believe it, take a look at some tkd tournaments. Those guys are explosive with full body rotation in their kicks. Good kickers. This judoka was extremely poor on ground skills. So I think they were evenly matched skill wise per their styles, but I'd like to see a judoka with good ground techniques against a really quick tkd practitioner. Maybe they ought to have style vs style tournaments with some medium-to-highly skilled players. That could be very interesting.
@TheManglor
5 жыл бұрын
@El Bottoo you let judoka finish his kimura or choke see how injured tkd gets
@MrSuperhoben
5 жыл бұрын
@El Bottoo The ref did step in and stop ongoing submissions. The kimura and the arm triangel could very well have been successful but the ref didn't let him finish. I also seriously doubt that the judo guy had pain for weeks after this
@lordbyron3603
10 ай бұрын
Taekwondo guy …… If you’re not on your feet ,, you’re going to lose ! That was a nice leg sweep by the judo dude.
@kennethrogers1129
Жыл бұрын
I was very fortunate that in my martial arts experience our Grand Master, was a GM of TKD, Hapkido, and Judo. He trained black belts in all three martial arts and we were always cross training. We would do Tkd tournaments, and Judo tournaments and do Hapkido self defense. Actually Hapkido is like TKD and Judo combined plus more joint manipulations, throws, chokes, vicious strikes that are not in Judo or TKD, so I was pretty lucky coming up as a kid being exposed to that comprehensive type attitude of martial arts practice, pretty much the first MMA back in the 60’s and 70;s Moo Sul Kwan Martial Arts. You have to have common sense about it, if you feel your opponent is a grappler then you have to be very careful and keep your balance, be patient and let him run into a hard strike as he closes distance, of course it helps a lot if you know judo as well as have good striking,
@-whackd
8 ай бұрын
Okay boomer
@willwalker9801
4 жыл бұрын
Everytime the judoka went to finish the fight the ref stood him up....
@jesuschristislord77733
2 жыл бұрын
1:29 that leg sweep 🤯
@rmps8029
4 жыл бұрын
Who is Best Judo - like Taekwondo - comment
@quickstep2408
5 жыл бұрын
i dont practice tkd but one thing its good at is being overwhelming, especially with their switch stances and faints. theyre like whirlwinds of legs lol, did not see this here. the tkd guy was shook
@jestfullgremblim8002
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely should've thrown more faster kicks to his legs and body and not those slow drab head kicks, Could've made life scary for the Judo guy,
@psyience3213
5 жыл бұрын
Jkd guy did well, but if they gave them literally just 1 more second on the ground he would have been finished at least twice for sure
@geryquin4214
5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Van Helden honestly in my opinion the Judoka had more than enough time. He got stood up quick because he used side control to stall and not to actively pursue a submission. If the Judoka where against a fellow grappler then yea it takes more time, but against a non grappler, at a blackbelt level a Judoka should be able to submit someone fairly quickly and easy.
@jonnycage3065
4 жыл бұрын
“How do you not submit them when you have the arm triangle” The arm triangle has to be perfectly set up and controlled. Even good submission specialists such as myself have trouble with it sometimes. Judo does not teach punches
@justjump-qr1ts
2 жыл бұрын
So true!Preach it !
@bjc9520
Жыл бұрын
That’s not correct. In Judo, Atemi Waza teaches both punches and kicks.
@awakenow7147
5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Jeet Kune Do guy...and I hate being on the ground. I'm a striker at heart and always will be. But JKD students started training in BJJ for a reason.
@riversdarrell2000
Жыл бұрын
Many of us saw the effectiveness of jujitsunl early on and immediately started training
@edmarhenches875
Жыл бұрын
As a taekwondo practitioner i already knew the result. The taekwondin lacks in force. He just doesnt know what to do. Grappling and grounding are fundamental in every way
@ManuelGarcia-ef8rr
3 жыл бұрын
Judo is the Master tecnic body to body..trows and greaping with summision are the way of combat. Thanks for the vídeo
@everypersoneverywhere7955
3 жыл бұрын
I understand where the ref is coming from - he wants to keep the action flowing for the sake of the show. But realistically, being stood back up or not, Judo guy won hands down.
@johnmarktamano8834
4 жыл бұрын
TKD is just for the movies, Judo is for the bodyguards.
@C_Castillo
11 ай бұрын
As some who took bjj and tkd afterwards, it was an adult class with 3 hours a class, 1 hour endurance training, 1 techniques, 1 hour sparring. The sparing was essentially MMA with a slew of others knowing alot of different martial arts, alot of wrestlers, judokas, muy Thai, amd kickboxing in the class, only one other bjj guy, it was the funnest class I've ever taken
@Ronald1324
Жыл бұрын
I went on Quora to see what people thought about taekwondo vs wrestling, and it was a bunch of taekwondo guys saying they’re lethal weapons and shit 😂
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
That’s hilarious! Could you show me some links?
@felipemartinez1275
5 жыл бұрын
Simply said: Judo rules!
@shibainu5277
5 жыл бұрын
The judo guy deserved the win 100% the tkd had some flashy kicks that didn't do much damage and he was saved by the ref everytime the judo guy put him in a kimura
@Father_Brother_Son
2 жыл бұрын
This type of TKD fighter is the type I like the least being black belt in TKD myself. My school was clearly much more well rounded than his and focused more on effectiveness than sport.
@theodoresmith3353
4 жыл бұрын
Striking and punching isn't allowed in competition judo so most people don't train it. It is part of the katas though.
@Arsenal_Coven
Жыл бұрын
Fue muy incierto, pues fueron muy controlados y eso no está mal, pero tengamos en cuenta que si hubieses utilizado su potencial diferente pudo ser el desenlace, ya que bien pudo el de TKD golpearlo tan duro al de judo que podría dejarlo sin aire, noqueado etc, y el de judo igualmente si hubiese querido someterlo de una habría ganado, así que es muy incierto ese combate estricto de cada regla de una única arte marcial
@accadueoaccadueo945
4 жыл бұрын
Judo guy gets the mount. Referee: stands them up. 😂
@eyuelyiferu264
3 жыл бұрын
I did taekwondo I am a green belt with blue stripe I won 2 medals silver metal first and then a bronze medal. Taekwondo is the best. I moved to Seattle Washington from Las Vegas Nevada so I had to stop but when I’m 18 I will go back to Las Vegas and continue. I do better.
@tasogare6598
3 жыл бұрын
Those are some fantastic takedowns
@tysonmoch
2 жыл бұрын
The judoka only had 10 seconds on the ground. You can hear the countdown in japanese.
@teddytadd7457
5 жыл бұрын
The judo guy had many chances to do an arm submission , funny he must have not learned that! Referee gave the TKD guy to many fucken breaks. Ok , but not a great fight.
@nate4381
3 жыл бұрын
In Taekwondo we have very little ground training
@joshuaodjick5087
5 ай бұрын
When the judoka did a kani basami at 1:33. Looked like mortal kombat for a sec.
@heavymeddle28
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting... As a young man, 47 now, I competed in judo and wtf taekwondo. If I was up against myself it would've been a heliuva rumble. Maybe a judokick and a taekwondothrow😀..
@crackercrap6923
5 жыл бұрын
I know this has nothing to do with the video, but shouldn't Xu Xiaodong fight Jake Mace?
@FightCommentary
5 жыл бұрын
Jake Mace would never agree ;)
@crackercrap6923
5 жыл бұрын
@@FightCommentary True Thx for responding!
@ryantyson6341
5 жыл бұрын
@Mixed Martial Anime yes
@crackercrap6923
5 жыл бұрын
@Mixed Martial Anime Thats why I commented because Xu said he's exposing "fake kung fu"
@crackercrap6923
5 жыл бұрын
@@paulthe2mikolajdupontsrens586 Xu does MMA.
@colorado2455
5 жыл бұрын
If i was the tkd i would have kept using the low kicks. Because it looked like judo guy was getting damaged by the low kicks and they are hard to grab.
@vanillathunder2898
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in taekwondo we're taught to aim higher,think the guy wanted to deal more damage by trying to deal a good hit on the face or upper area
@colorado2455
5 жыл бұрын
But when u are going to fight in this that has mma rules. I would have try to learn the low kick.
@theseeker5799
5 жыл бұрын
A judoka doesn't mind a few low kicks. When he closed the gap you are done to be thrown to the ground. Low kicks and even high kicks have no power as a judoka got very close to you. You can say I will try to keep my distance from him and keep delivering that low kicks. For how long can you keep your distance? How far do you think you can run? A judoka will chases you, catches you, grapples you and finally throws you to the ground, pins you and go for submissions like chokes, armbars etc. Speaking from experience. You want to fight a judoka? Learn judo.
@pranakhan
5 жыл бұрын
A good calf slicer should remove some of the Judokas ability to leverage his weight and compromise his guard. He will want to defend against low kicks after the initial connection, so the TKD fighter should answer with punches up high. In and out footwork should be a speciality in TKD, but were not really seeing it here. Decent mid-level match however
@colorado2455
5 жыл бұрын
@@theseeker5799 thats why the tkd should have used more the low kick. He could use the low kick to set up other moves.
@andrew-fp9oq
Жыл бұрын
Throw him a bunch of times and let him back up take away his morale. You need to meme that one. That was funny
@KazMMA7
Жыл бұрын
I do judo. BJJ. Kickboxing and boxing. (Hopefully mma one day) but I can confirm as a white belt. That black belt could’ve EASILY arm barred or choked that tkd dude.
@memebroski228
3 жыл бұрын
I belive that you have to do at least 2 different sports to be able to fight good. For example taekwondo with grappling, muai thai with judo or boxing with BJJ.
@Apeshower
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. A striking art with grappling art is the way to become rounded. However, I think the striking art needs to be close to full contact. Without the conditioning and training to actually hit it’s always pulling punches and hitting mid-air. Pad work is fine but they don’t punch back. Judo and bjj are great because they involve going against a resisting opponent. However, let’s be honest, most people gain by the physical exercise rather than being a fighter. With families and limited time, I would go with grappling over karate/Kung fu etc and if I was picking a striking art only- Muay Thai or boxing.
@douglasgomesbueno1526
Жыл бұрын
I keep thinking what martial arts means, in my opinion it is the art of war and in war you have to be prepared for everything your opponent can do.
@Maximo665
5 жыл бұрын
Judo ends when the opponent's shoulders touch the ground, so judoka don't train for submissions too much. Mainly pins. Speaking from my experience
@FightCommentary
5 жыл бұрын
Depends on the Judo. Kosen Judo has more ground.
@Maximo665
5 жыл бұрын
Ya, I learnt katagatame as a pin
@drago6060
5 жыл бұрын
I usually go for a submission than a pin, since I am more lightweight
@RobWitchdoctor
5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. I've trained both and there is an amazing amount more things to learn on the ground in BJJ.
@vitordanieleal
5 жыл бұрын
What the hell you saying there are chockes and locks you can do
@douglasgomesbueno1526
Жыл бұрын
Grappling exists since ancient Greece is the oldest art of fight, I don't understand how traditional Martial Arts neglect the training of Grappling TWD Modern is so limited.
@taekwondobro
5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see that taekwondo guy do another match against judo, I think he learned to implement taekwondo's moves much better as the fight went on.
@FightCommentary
5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@geryquin4214
5 жыл бұрын
Glad you agree :)
@taekwondobro
5 жыл бұрын
that's how you learn to really implement real martial arts, by fighting with different rules sometimes and against different opponents
@THE-zv7vj
3 жыл бұрын
WAIT WAIT .....I wasnt ready
@calvinrhea9340
5 жыл бұрын
A lot of questions as to why the ref breaks it up when the judo guy does a take down well it could have been a time limit on ground techniques or the technique bring used to prevent breaking or over extending of joints.
@veestormcourage
4 жыл бұрын
You're correct. Ganryujima doesn't allow joint locks unless both fighters are groundfighters. The time limit on the ground is fifteen seconds.
@captainbeaver_man903
5 жыл бұрын
But can it work on the streets? I bet gun kata could beat both of them. Or Batman, Batman could also win.
@Bubble23428
5 жыл бұрын
Or master wong
@eddted2876
2 жыл бұрын
Judo in Japan are excellent ! See how the TKD Korean karate guy gets lost on the ground. Thanks for this video! Fun and enjoyable! No way Karate guy won!
@jiujitsucolumbus4622
5 жыл бұрын
This is excellent proof why Gracie modifies Jiujitsu is. So important. Set up submissions with strikes . This guy should have watched like one gracuesbin action fight and he would have beat him in the first round
@TheSquirrleGuy
2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently in taekwondo. I have both sister with second dan. I was deciding once I have gotten black belt in taekwondo. My desiccation next was then going bjj or judo.
@robertcopp2411
Жыл бұрын
This is Ganryujima, they have a hard time limit on takedowns. i think its 15-30 seconds. So if you're going for a submission you have to be really quick at it. you get a lot of points for each takedown though.
@mikeylitchfield4651
Жыл бұрын
You might not enjoy grappling as a martial artist but it's part of the bread and butter. You have no choice but to learn it If you don't want to suck.
@morkujinirukandji4820
Жыл бұрын
I always tell people this in a fight the better grappler almost always wins
@ECODECO183
2 ай бұрын
@@morkujinirukandji4820 if you have a 2 vs 1 fight it doesnt work . Taekwondo + kickboxing = a god fighting mod
@sandsand5483
5 жыл бұрын
That arm triangle sucked total ass, wasn't even close xD. As your mate said, it was the judokas hip being way too high, allows the guy on bottom to turn in without just turning further into the choke. Arm triangle actually has quite a few little intricacies that make them not work.
@paulvalmadre5493
5 жыл бұрын
It was a submission by verbal, tap or the refs decision,that's how they score a point then ,they stand them back up its a demonstration not a proper fight ,and if the ref didn't stop it ,it would of been a dislocated shoulder,for sure you'll find he's uses an extended arm technique so as not to rupture the elbow joint.
@paulthe2mikolajdupontsrens586
5 жыл бұрын
I actually like judo. But I actually have an high green belt in wtf taekwondo and an white belt in judo. I find judo hard to understand. But I am willingly to learn and work hard to get my black belt in judo
@Explorshon123
5 жыл бұрын
Good on you for combining the 2, it will serve you much better than just TKD or only Judo. I will say this though, Judo has all the same throws as Jujitsu, they just took all the strikes out completely with Judo. If you train Jujitsu you will get the Karate style kicks and punches and the Judo grappling too but in the past the Jujitsu classes I went to didn't train the strikes very often though, we usually concentrated on the throws, grappling and all the joint locks. Joint locks are awesome and a great way to beat an opponent without spilling any claret.
@paulthe2mikolajdupontsrens586
5 жыл бұрын
Explorshon yeah. I took a break from martial arts for awhile. Was dealing with personal issues in my life. Besides I am gonna study more Japanese stuff. Such as martial arts. I really love Japanese martial arts.
@drago6060
5 жыл бұрын
Judo is a great art to learn, but when you want to experience full grappling, experiment with leg locks and leg takedowns either with a friend or a different art, since they have removed it from competitive Judo
@paulthe2mikolajdupontsrens586
5 жыл бұрын
drago6060 DD that’s why I am going to do some Japanese jujitsu
@patochantk
5 жыл бұрын
Good mentality to have!
@SoldierOfFortune900
Жыл бұрын
Judo guy not well rounded that’s why he don’t do anything once in the ground. Also the ref is favouring the tkd guy by standing them up way to fast. But yeah tkd guy had no chances and he wasn’t supposed to
@aboobeka
5 жыл бұрын
Looks like there are rules that we as spectators aren't made aware of. I'm assuming it's to avoid having a match drag out for a long period of time with no action on the ground, but I see no other reason for them to continuously separate. That TaeKwonDo guy looked uncomfortable with his own techniques too..
@EngineerMK2004
5 жыл бұрын
It's not a kimura, it's Ude Garami. Kimura is the BJJ nick name for it, because Brazilians couldn't pronounce it right in Japanese
@ryanetzkorn3192
5 жыл бұрын
i'm sure if this was a street fight Mr.judo would win..
@LoveFix2558
5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Etzkorn agreed. A throw onto concrete is a finisher, there are plenty of KZitem clips with such street fights
@z4743
3 жыл бұрын
Grappling in a street fight would result in getting stomped
@shiro703
3 жыл бұрын
@@z4743 depends if your fighting one person then yea grappling would be good but if it’s more then one person your gonna get stomped
@Azur_Filip
3 жыл бұрын
@@z4743 thats a vague and ignorant statement. If anything, grappling will save you out of trouble, think about it people don't need to be trained in order to grab a hold of your shirt/clinching senseless. If you are a explosive grappler, you can still takedown multiple people. Biggest advantage of grappling is not only you can control your violence and others violence and movement, you can also use it to get out of tricky positions when you are in trouble. Everyone can throw a sloppy punch but not everybody can grapple in street.
@Azur_Filip
3 жыл бұрын
@@shiro703 you will also get stomped against multiple attackers in street. A good boxer might do better against multiple people but imagine this you are using your footwork and knocking dudes out, bang somebody rushes to you and gets a hold of you, Its cool but then you realze his pal next to your side just stabbed you. No one should fight multiple opponents, unlike striking grappling is scaleable, meaning you can control the amount of violence you can use on someone , you can control them and talk sende to them, you can throw them and knock them out or potentialy cripple them, you can take him down and break every part of his bones, you can choke him out and he won't remember thing (keeping you out of law suit, unluke striking)
@DamianProsa
5 жыл бұрын
Striking isn't better than grappling, but grappling isn't better than striking. They are like a man and a woman. They complement each other. Each has its own merit. They're stronger together than alone.
@martinvinell1558
3 жыл бұрын
The TKD guy's arm was 2 seconds away from becoming a spaghetti arm and the ref stood them up. You could see that the TKD guy was obviously hurt from that
@daveroach1198
5 жыл бұрын
I do taekwondo and a sixth degree told me to through my front leg and then set up the back leg
@andrewferris4539
5 жыл бұрын
The Judoka dominated the fight, I think once the Tae Kwon Do guy resorted to boxing the grappler's job was already done.
@claytonbill
3 жыл бұрын
This is like watching a cobra and a mongoose.
@joerandom435
Жыл бұрын
this is why kickers should have bjj skills
@lslivan8775
2 жыл бұрын
TKD guy be like here my leg take it
@user-md2fm7ik2z
2 жыл бұрын
The commentary on this is so lame. Nothing worthwhile being said and they don’t even know what judo is
@leosidharta6723
Жыл бұрын
I ain't surprised by the result...
@biggman18
2 жыл бұрын
its not the TKD guys fault, that's the reality of grappling.
@Martel_Clips
Жыл бұрын
what a surprise a strike judo guy win against a olympict TKD guy who would have thought no find a traditional TKD guy vs a sport judo guy and wonder how the judo guy got his broken knee before being able to do any real grappling
@elvo6217
5 жыл бұрын
It's a shame how the promotion has such a lack of understanding of fighting. I don't even think the ref knows that he disrupted multiple finishes and he was giving the other guy a huge handicap
@teedtad2534
Жыл бұрын
TKD usually depends on kicking. When they match up with Thai boxers they get hit 🎯 at all angles. Judo guy is aware of kicks and good at take downs! The referee SAVED the TKD guy too many times here! If this had been a street fight, judo guy would have had won much sooner cause NO referee! 🎯🔥🔥🎯
@gustavoadolfo1897
5 жыл бұрын
El judo de verdad ayuda mucho muy buen combate💥
@evol2460
Жыл бұрын
A judoka here, I think judo is more useful for fighting, whilst TKD is more about the aesthetics. They're both amazing and each has its own beauty.❤️🥋
@Gilsao157
Жыл бұрын
I think they make for excellent complementary martial arts. The main defficiency of judo is the lack of long range while tkd is the opposite. Judo helps you keep balance when your kicks are catched, and kicking let your hands free for grappling.
@miguelhernandez-km9sv
5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Can you do a video on jkd please?
@FightCommentary
5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@dariodesansebastian
4 жыл бұрын
If you wanna check out the techniques judo guy used (sorry, in judo we use japanese names, you can copy paste them): Throws: Tani otoshi, Morote gari, ashi barai. Grappling: yoko shiho gatame, tate shiho gatame Arm locks: Ude garami It was funny, they didn't wear any protections, which definitelly was bad for the judo guy, as we grapplers dont punch. Also, there was tatami that made tkwdo guy things easier. In a real fight without tatami with the first body slam that combat would've been over. Judo guy always controled the situation even in conditions that favoured tkwdo fighter
@user-bj8mm4lv6b
2 жыл бұрын
That was just nice to watch
@MartialMadness
5 жыл бұрын
Neither art trains to hurt or do damage or injure in a fight. One is mertited on the point system. The other on submission. That's why they turn out to be exhibition bouts rather than actual fights.
@dfk09
8 ай бұрын
Judo guy needs to go to BJJ school for submissions...
@johnbravo1034
4 жыл бұрын
They should just allow the fight to continue. If TKD guy can’t get away without help that’s his problem. Maybe train more against a grappler before fighting one next time.
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