….cruelty at its finest. The Doctor was putting up a brave front by correcting him, but you could still see the sorrow in pain in his eyes.
@Newjourney14
9 ай бұрын
and the toy maker still called him on his BS justifying
@TheShadoreavr
9 ай бұрын
The Doctor carries the pain that he couldn't save them. But in reality none of the companions would have changed a moment.
@tylerkister4628
9 ай бұрын
Idk I feel like adric would of changed the moment(sorry for the misspelling, I'm not sure how to spell his name
@joshie_b1987
9 ай бұрын
@tylerkister4628 what happened to Adric?
@masongrae5010
9 ай бұрын
And that’s why the toy maker keeps saying “well that alright then” in a mocking tone like oh it’s fine that they died then? No? Didn’t think so
@Connor-hl4pd
9 ай бұрын
“Well that’s alright then” Such a well written line. Simple, but so much emotion is put into the words, throwing them back at the Doctor. He’s saying, you killed them. You may have kept a bit of them alive, but both of us know you will never get them back
@nightterror007
9 ай бұрын
I love the change in accent and inflection with that line.
@plagueman049
9 ай бұрын
It's honestly perfect. One, it maintains the mockery he loves. Everything is a game and he finds it amusing. Two, it lets him legitimately jab at the Doctor. He breaks the doc down by shredding his excuses. He's not getting angrier, just more invigorated to toy with his prey when he sees the weakness in what was otherwise a sort of god to him (the one person that has beaten him, that at all understands him even, maybe). He really is a catalyst for doc to realize his need for a break. And then the 15th is just, uh, fine? Same person and memories and all that, but the trauma hasn't kept him weighed down like it did the 14th. They did split clothes. Maybe they split memories and stuff? 😂 Surely not though
@SophiaSanders61
9 ай бұрын
@@plagueman049 No, 14 does the therapy and then some how he joins back up with 15 at the beginning refreshed and ready to face the future.
@plagueman049
9 ай бұрын
@@SophiaSanders61 My point was how is 15 fine and dandy if 14 is so weighed down
@kubamcmillan3078
8 ай бұрын
@@plagueman049I think when 14 dies he regenerates at this moment becoming 15
@JA-fh4yw
9 ай бұрын
Tennant really sells the fact that all the Doctors are the same person. I can believe he experienced all that loss.
@mrshubh101
3 ай бұрын
Even though they were Smith's and Capaldi's companions, it felt as if they were Tennant's companions too, whom he lost.
@vanspoorsveeplays357
10 күн бұрын
I see regeneration having an added effect of being able to easily compartmentalize trauma as though you're a different person. But we know the Doctor better than that. He remembered it all, and probably thinks of it often, even if he doesn't want to or rationalizes his way out of responsibility. And Toymaker broke down the walls between the regenerations with one phrase.
@lasonris8934
9 ай бұрын
"Well thats alright then" Hes letting the doctor know it doesnt matter their actual fate, he will never be able to see them again and cannot have their lives back
@Newjourney14
9 ай бұрын
Sort of. He was saying the doctor is hypocritical and trying to justify “being alive” on a technicality doesn’t make what their fates were okay.
@davidnewcomb7466
9 ай бұрын
@@Newjourney14It’s basically “ladi-fuckin-da”, but way darker.
@robertocioffi2523
9 ай бұрын
@@Newjourney14i mean Amy really wasn't dead. At least not when the angel touched her
@Yokyle4356
9 ай бұрын
@@robertocioffi2523if I remember right she got put back in the nineties
@robertocioffi2523
9 ай бұрын
@@Yokyle4356 i think the 20ies but she still lived
@stoagymahalo5268
9 ай бұрын
Love how even toymaker thought that was weird. Death by a bird
@killrkiddx007
9 ай бұрын
Ravens of death isn’t to be truffled with 😂😢
@undeadly1103
9 ай бұрын
hope we never have to see Maisie Williams character again
@Puncherjoe1
9 ай бұрын
The weird look off to the side makes it better.
@DoctorWhoKage
9 ай бұрын
I find it funny that he thinks it's weird given that he's an entity who's probably thousands of years old and has done some really weird shit in his lifetime. Weird shit that would make the weirdest comicbook villain (like, say, The Joker or Mr. MXYZPTLK or the Anti-Monitor) go, "What the fuck??".
@Dream146
9 ай бұрын
don't fuck with ravens
@Magni_Prime
9 ай бұрын
"Oh, well, that's alright then!" I find that highly amusing.
@garethjelley7740
9 ай бұрын
Me too
@zagerues5453
9 ай бұрын
its hilarious the ay neil says it]
@divinityquartz3428
9 ай бұрын
it fills me with anger. the absolute mockery of it all just hits in the right way. it's the guy in the bar repeating back at you in the cry baby tone, the kicking you in the gut while you're already on the ground unable to get up, the salt in the wound, the twisting of the knife. it's just that unnecessarily cruel act that hurts your pride on top of the knowledge of your failure. it hurts cause you know you are already powerless and it's someone else proving it to you. it was exactly right.
@Chronos1370
9 ай бұрын
I can see something of jim carry while he says that
@davidnewcomb7466
9 ай бұрын
@@divinityquartz3428It almost sounds like he’s angry himself, like he’s judging the Doctor for trying to dress up the truth.
@XOrtKnight
9 ай бұрын
“I… waited.. for.. you…” -Bill Potts Series 10
@bclark3614
9 ай бұрын
Lady Bill
@demonwolf8024
9 ай бұрын
Ten years... Missed her by two hours...
@moro2485
9 ай бұрын
"you look after him. You be a good girl and you look after him"
@RobertShippey
9 ай бұрын
Pain. Pain. Pain.
@rivalthegrey7.562
9 ай бұрын
They all waited
@voidmatic
9 ай бұрын
hearing ten, who is now fourteen, mention the companions of eleven and twelve is a really odd feeling, but damn it's a sad moment of truly remembering that all the doctors carry the greif of their lost companions with them. (also, I really really miss the ponds 😓)
@Ethan_Wheeler
9 ай бұрын
Ten...who was technically 11&12...plus a hand that survived until the end of time that became a regenerationless Meta Crisis Variant...who is now 16...who is now a bi-regeneration copy of The Doctor? How many Tenants are there running around lol.
@triforceofcourage100
9 ай бұрын
@@Ethan_Wheeler3
@hgtrftfr
9 ай бұрын
Can we just keep calling him ten, please? It hurts my head otherwise😂😂
@dunkbuscusgaming7016
9 ай бұрын
I agree it reminds me of the episode during 11 called "Let's Kill Hitler" where River/Melody nearly killed the Doctor but during it the TARDIS hologram shows people of his past and he sees Rose, Donna, & Martha (I think but definitely rose) and shows how even now after she returns to the alternate earth woth 10's human clone he still feels responsible for her having to leave the main earth.
@awesomejay147
9 ай бұрын
Yo what… i stopped watching after Amy and Rory… what do you mean now 14. I have some catching up to do
@SenatiaA
9 ай бұрын
Bill’s death still hits me. Bill was smart, witty, and funny. She could keep up with the Doctor, and then she was gone.
@Cailus3542
9 ай бұрын
Bill died, but it was only the start of a new adventure for her. In her new form, she experienced things beyond what even the Doctor could understand. It was symbolic: the student outgrew the master.
@harijaja
9 ай бұрын
@@Cailus3542nah
@Skylingale
9 ай бұрын
Bill was the worst.
@tommygardner2071
9 ай бұрын
@@Skylingaleleave
@benjaminandrews956
9 ай бұрын
I hated Bill she was way too snarky and never listened to what the doctor told her to do and always made the situation worse.
@steveharrington6333
9 ай бұрын
It's pretty fascinating that 14 is acknowledging old companions, and is genuinely caring and sorrowful at the loss of each companion. It really hits it home that, while each doctor is different, they really are the same person. He cares so much about his old companions, and I hope future doctors mention older companions more often.
@johnmcauliffe8824
9 ай бұрын
Ten was also the doctor that before regenerating went back to see all of them (and I mean all of them) to check on how they were doing. He really cared and being put back must be hard even though he has already been processing this grief for a while.
@imaferretmaster
9 ай бұрын
Its also a commentary on how the doctor takes regular ass people and sure, shows them wonders beyond wonders, but ultimately ends up destroying their lives and killing them. The good contrast here is Donna who, while losing all of her memories, was saved and now has them back and her old friend. It's the game changing companion.
@garibaldilebeau
9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind this is the same Doctor (in a way) that reconnected with Sarah Jane so long ago, that visited every surviving companion that 10 had in his farewell tour, that reconnected with Mel in this special, and even brought up Adric in the second consecutive regeneration episode (and last time was essentially 13 overwritten with 5 as an interface, so again - historical acknowledgement) I do wonder if this repeated mention of Adric could point to something down the line, like a storyline where the Master (or a different time lord villain) rescues him from the crashing ship,then foments his anger until we eventually face him as someone turning people & events from his past against the Doctor
@The-Cosmic-Hobo
8 ай бұрын
In School Reunion Rose points out that the Doctor has never mentioned Sarah Jane. The Doctor has lived for a long time, and we see throughout the history of the show, generally speaking the Doctor is always on the move, not much time to sit around reminiscing on his past... The occasional reference to previous companions is nice - loved the reference to Jamie in Tooth n Claw... but I don't want the show to be full of those nods back to the past.
@FearlessCrusader100
8 ай бұрын
@garibaldilebeau honestly id like to see a master redemption ark. Like at some point the battle with this ageless, undefeatable foe gets too tiresome and they just want to bury the hatchet. The daleks, the cybermen, the angels, they all cannot be reasoned with, dont get sentimental, they will fight you till you beat them or they kill you. But for just once, maybe the doctors adventures could redeem someone like the doctor that they could go their seperate ways and maybe the doctor could get them to start doing good.
@bill4665
9 ай бұрын
I love the fact each time he drops his accent. It just adds this sinister tone that we never truly know what he's like.
@MauseDays
9 ай бұрын
WeLL thAtS aLlRIGHT then!
@Richard_Frost
9 ай бұрын
The toymaker wasnt mad that he kept being corrected, because he wasnt... he was mad that the doctor kept trying to justify his companions deaths, and his failures, that he kept deflecting, without acknowledging that he got them all killed. "You killed them. " "They still exist in some way though, shadows of themselves!" "Oh, well thats alright then!"
@TotherKoala
9 ай бұрын
Yes. You can even hear him getting more annoyed at the doctor each time
@yourmotherisaseal5239
9 ай бұрын
idk, I think it was more him mocking the doctor's attempts at excuses out of pure cruelty
@Richard_Frost
9 ай бұрын
@@yourmotherisaseal5239 It could be both mocking cruelty, and an attempt to break him by forcing him to accept his own failures, and actions, making him take responsibility for getting his companions killed.
@valorianknight8346
9 ай бұрын
I like to think the Toymaker was genuinely upset by the doctor trying to correct him because Life is like a game, it has rules and the doctor kept cheating death both as a timelord and when it came to his companions lives.
@CarbonKrazie
9 ай бұрын
He wasn't mad, he was literally mocking the doctor and each time the doctor corrected him, he raised his voice and repeated the same thing "well that's alright then" basically reiterating that the doctor was just making excuses
@OrtegaPegMe
7 ай бұрын
I love when he brings up Clara and says “she was killed by a bird!” Even the toy maker looks confused and perplexed by that one lol
@erikamauritz484
9 ай бұрын
The pain of remembering, This is honestly just bringing back so many memories to the point I partly teared up.
@trevorsreya8277
9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the episode with 3 Doctors. The Moment refers to 10 and 11 as "the one who regrets" and "the one who forgets."
@iitzamario
9 ай бұрын
It's interesting, its like the toymaker is saying that the doctor was a toymaker of his own creation by the way each doctor had companions and how when each one dies its like a toy been thrown away, the toymaker is implying that the doctors were better "toymakers" of companions than the toymaker himself ever was. Obviously each doctor cared deeply about their companions but it's a mind game to get in the doctor's and donna's heads.
@maxvogt3515
9 ай бұрын
That’s a really interesting comparison. It’s just like in 10’s finale (before the Christmas special) where Davros lays out how he takes a moral high ground but commits an evil to take everyday people and “fashion them into weapons”. Both times all of his joy is gone, his face sinks, he’s shown what he’s done to the people he loves the most, and one of them is right next to him to witness it all.
@DracoInduperator
19 күн бұрын
That's a really neat observation
@Villaboy78
9 ай бұрын
“Killed by a bird 👀👀" Like the Toymaker can’t even believe that one , had me 💀💯
@geraldballinger6428
9 ай бұрын
"Well that's all right then!" Dumbledore said calmly
@xyreniaofcthrayn1195
9 ай бұрын
Well that's alright then!!! The celestial toymaker said sardonically with a hint of theatrics.
@kennydev8196
6 ай бұрын
barney stinson said calmly
@alphacode5
9 ай бұрын
I love how the toymaker keeps saying "that's alright then" louder and louder while the doctor keeps justifying people surviving in a less and less human way, the doctor knows well that those technicalities don't justify the fact that those companions died while travelling with him
@ThanosSkarmi
11 сағат бұрын
The toymaker seeing it as scolding a kid for not taking care of it's toys
@ForgottenOrphan
9 ай бұрын
Bill’s hurts the most, From the point of the doctor. Imagine being told that not only were you moments too late, an hour. A time frame spat upon by time lords. And not only that, but that she had became the prototype of the largest and most dangerous army the doctor has ever known outside the Daleks. And to add insult to injury, it was done by a person who he called friend, someone who he begged to live so that he may not be alone a sec longer. Selfishness kills, and it killed Bill Potts
@Zlda-uq3pj
9 ай бұрын
For real, even if in the end Bill lives with Ether she experienced the most traumatic death compared to the others, and the fact that the Doctor couldn't do anything to save her is just more depressing
@swankierSpy2658
6 күн бұрын
Despite the sadness, that’s what i like and makes the companions most memorable to me, their tragic ends, Rose lost in another universe, Donna’s memory wiped and will die instantly if she ever remembers the doctor, Amy and Rory trapped in the past, Clara erased (temporarily) from his memory, River having died saving the doctor on the first day they met, Bill dying as you said above. It always makes them so memorable to me and what i like so much about them.
@nickagriesti6708
5 күн бұрын
The Master didn't do anything to Bill. The Master was just there, working the Mondassians along toward the logical end that he perceived. Bill just happened to be there.
@sorrenblitz805
9 ай бұрын
Her consciousness doesn't actually survive. She is dead. Her memories are all just held in a glass shell.
@mongooseunleashed
9 ай бұрын
Well, THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!
@2ekken
9 ай бұрын
No Bill's consciousness survived thanks to that weird living oil and that girl who liked her
@CSTypoon
9 ай бұрын
@@mongooseunleashed the idea of him saying that would make sense in him trying to say "so you're fine with this happening"
@Valiant_Requiem
9 ай бұрын
Her consciousness does survive, but the Bill we see in Capaldi's last episode is essentially all of Bill's memories from after she does truly die. The fact that she spent ten years in a time dilated, smog filled city waiting for the Doctor to save her, despite being saved at the last second by The Pilot, is the truly awful thing.
@TheJadedJames
9 ай бұрын
Bill was turned into a Cyberman, so while her original body is gone, her mind was still in total control of her Cyberman body the last time the Doctor saw her. Testimony Bill does not contain Bill’s “consciousness” it was literally just a copy of her and the Doctor recognized it as such, mocking it for pretending to be Bill around him
@MrR2d2c3po10
9 ай бұрын
“We’ll that’s alright then!” Gosh this was the strongest scene from an already amazing episode!
@pirate1876
9 ай бұрын
This is emotional but also the "she was killed by a bird" got me laughing real hard. NPH portrayed the character in such a fun goofy manner I really liked it :')
@maohemu262
9 ай бұрын
The Toymaker was confused as hell when saying that out loud as well probably thinking "wait, a bird? wtf fr?" For a second.
@danielf1833
8 ай бұрын
Ik! Hes my favourite villain in all of Doctor Who now. He was just so much fun to watch. Hes that great to me I dont even know if I want him to return in case they mess it up or start making him feel weaker. Like if NPH reprises the role years down the line that would be sick but I feel DW has a tendency to take popular villains and oversaturate andmodify them until they lose the original threat, charm and novelty
@pirate1876
8 ай бұрын
@@danielf1833 Yes! I'd definitely like getting some more stuff with him in the role, as he really nailed it, but on the other hand it may not be worth the risk if it ends up taking away from the charm. Maybe an episode or a few at some point, but making him something that reoccurs as often as say, the Daleks would probably be a really bad idea.
@shawnadams1460
9 ай бұрын
"Well that's all right then!!!" Was just spot on man....NPH put his foot in this roll, it was done so well!
@nunyabidness674
9 ай бұрын
His performance here is pretty much the same as he delivered on Dougie Howser when he had to discuss a death / serious illness with a younger family member. Literally, the same air of armor showing compassion and indifference at the same time.
@kwegul
Ай бұрын
Bro the toymakers actor is fucking amazing
@youcancallmeal313
4 күн бұрын
Barney Stinson is his name
@tom0557
4 күн бұрын
@@youcancallmeal313 I loved it when Barney Stinson played Neil Patrick Harris
@JRAUSports
9 ай бұрын
Honestly you can see the Toymaker’s growing anger and the doctor correcting him
@SexyMonsterLover
9 ай бұрын
Nah, Toymaker is mocking him.
@corsh2715
9 ай бұрын
Correcting him how? They're still dead. Being "alive" on a technicality doesn't mean anything, they're still dead
@gamerblackjacket
9 ай бұрын
@@SexyMonsterLoverhonestly I'm going to have to heavily disagree with you, This scene was insanely powerful The toy maker was not mocking him but was calling him out on his past failures.
@ragingphantom
9 ай бұрын
@@corsh2715That's what I assumed he meant when he said "Well that's alright then." I know sarcasm 😅
@bottomtier3823
9 ай бұрын
@@gamerblackjackethe was mocking how the doctor tried have a technicality for each death
@broeagle0446
9 ай бұрын
i love how he moves his eyes with the littlest pause when he says she was killed by a bird makes it look like he made that up
@MegaManDBZX
9 ай бұрын
Toymaker: And River Song who died in the library. The Doctor: But I saved her on the computer.
@ultratog1028
9 ай бұрын
To be fair, Donna knows about that one
@evokator7794
9 ай бұрын
WELL, THATS ALL RIGHT THEN!
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
9 ай бұрын
WeLl ThAt’s AlRiGhT ThEn!
@charlesharrison4531
9 ай бұрын
WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!
@antoniopraide6855
9 ай бұрын
WELL THAT’S AAALRIGHT THEN!
@Scutt_le
3 ай бұрын
Both of them were right here.The Doctor by technicality,and the Toymaker by morality. Even if someone does survive,does how they survive play a part in wether it is considered bad or good to have them in that state,most would say yes,even if they are the ones who saved them.
@logandh2
9 ай бұрын
“WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN?” I felt the Toymaker said it as a question each time, like “you really think that makes it okay?” Because it doesn’t really, they all got trapped in a hell of their own, and it was The Doctor’s fault.
@GEMINIEARTHWALKER
9 ай бұрын
Or it was Davies making a dig at Moffatt, considering that it was Moffatt's companions that met horrible ends, while Davies companions may have been heartbroken and damaged by their departures, but ultimately kept their lives with those who love them.
@LilianDresse
9 күн бұрын
Amy hit me the hardest though. Rory "died" so many times and he always came back through one way or another. Not with the angel though. And Amy knew. She knew he couldn't come back this time. She "surrenderd" to the angel to finally be with her love. She finally had the opportunity to die with him of old age. With her husband.
@loganrogers1071
9 ай бұрын
Seeing the grief and sadness in David’s eyes is what sells him being the 14th Doctor so well. Those were his experiences he still is the Doctor
@therealwilldalbey
3 ай бұрын
I didn't actually know who the Toymaker was before this special. I legitimately thought he might have been a Timelord until the Doctor said he'd never use a TARDIS.
@azapro911
9 ай бұрын
NPH going full mad German scientist with "BY ZEE ZYYYBERMENNN!!!"
@timbonville-ginn4564
9 ай бұрын
David really acted the emotions brilliantly in this scene
@ordinalchaos6091
20 күн бұрын
I love how tennant shows us the pain of the past doctors.. you can see the rage and anger and loss in his face…
@knightwarrior8337
7 ай бұрын
Easily my favourite doctor who scene from the last few seasons. "Well that's alright then!" is perfectly acted by NPH and this scene in general is gutwrenchingly heartbreaking
@pandasaurusb.c.6047
2 ай бұрын
This is like Devros, "How many more Doctor, how many died in the name of the Doctor." 😢
@superslothstudios
9 ай бұрын
Friendly reminder that before the thirteenth Doctor, the Doctor’s last several companions all died. Glad that this episode sort of pointed out because it’s really sad for the Doctor. (Bill, Clara, Amy, Rory, River)
@doctorsno906
8 ай бұрын
I do you think Rose counts too since she’s effectively dead in his universe?
@lordtwego3142
2 ай бұрын
@@doctorsno906 she just changed universes she isnt dead, and amy the only reason imm adefend that is cuz she died of old age after living out her life but in a ddifferent time
@doctorsno906
2 ай бұрын
@@lordtwego3142 I know I just mean in the eyes of her original universe she’s effectively dead
@lordtwego3142
2 ай бұрын
@@doctorsno906 yeah but i think for this she doesn't count so its fine she wasnt named
@doctorsno906
2 ай бұрын
@@lordtwego3142 yea that’s fair
@amaas211
9 ай бұрын
Okay, THIS is the writing Chibnall couldn't deliver.
@kiritotheabridgedgod4178
7 күн бұрын
Yeah, we don't like mister Chinball.
@Andrew36597
9 ай бұрын
The pain in David’s voice when talking about these three, such a great performance! I’ve missed him being the Doctor
@lobski9186
9 ай бұрын
The giggle is the best of the special imo because of this scene. The toymaker just showing the doctor that no matter what happens, if he doesn't lose, someone else does. And the fact that they still live on in some shape or form doesn't change the fact that they got hurt BECAUSE of him
@jbell2013
9 ай бұрын
Correct
@Mastermind8908
9 ай бұрын
"WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN." I smell a meme bubbling.
@LyteRetro
9 ай бұрын
All his companions knew, what kind of dangers were waiting for them. Traveling with the Doctor is the most dangerous thing in the universe. He told every one of them but they still chose to be with him. To explore time and space.
@ChefBojangles
9 ай бұрын
Well, that’s alright then!
@kirkengstrom917
9 ай бұрын
@@ChefBojanglesShut up and gimme some planets.
@MauseDays
9 ай бұрын
this line is going to be legendary. people thought my arms are too big would be but this beats it @@ChefBojangles
@Arniox
9 ай бұрын
I think Bill was truly the saddest one of all. She waited for 10 years and died anyways. Also, RTD usually gives good endings to the companions. Moffat gives sad horrible endings. I think this toymaker scene was a dig at Moffat 😂
@Cailus3542
9 ай бұрын
Think about it: Amy and Rory lived happily together into old age. Clara lived on, exploring the universe with Me, able to return to Gallifrey to die whenever she chose. She became her own Doctor. River finally got her time with the Doctor, twenty four happy years of it. Bill was saved to live her own adventure with Heather. In her new form, she was beyond even the Doctor's understanding, havig experiences that even he couldn't dream of. Not bad, I'd say.
@firemaiden029
9 ай бұрын
@@Cailus3542 but they all still died an untimely death. Those lives they lived afterwards are like a consolation prize. Its why the Toymaker is using it as ammo. Rose is still alive and happy. Martha is still alive and happy. Donna is still alive and happy. Amy is dead in the wrong time Clara is dead but alive and will still die Bill is dead only her conscience is alive. See the difference.
@Cailus3542
9 ай бұрын
@@firemaiden029 From the Doctor's perspective, sure. From their perspective, though? Not too bad.
@TotherKoala
9 ай бұрын
Honestly, I love that you can not only see both perspectives, but find that TM's viewpoint is actually the better one. The Doctor sees his old enemy, trying to beat him down emotionally. But the Toymaker? He sees another semi-immortal, powerful being who is just... throwing these mortals' lives away recklessly, then replacing them and repeating the cycle, always having some kind of excuse. *Some excuse which makes the whole thing 'alright', then?* No. As far as TM can tell, the Doctor let these people die, then just moved on in what appeared to him to be no time at all. So, he wants the Doctor to face the truth, so that people will stop dying because of the whims of a madman in a police box.
@sophiawu4213
9 ай бұрын
I wish these cuts happened in the actual episode. And maybe have the toymaker mimic the companions’ last words or iconic lines, “Doctor, goodbye”, “I waited for you ”. Really dial up the grief.
@sophiawu4213
9 ай бұрын
Also wish that Rory got mentioned qq
@romainfontaine4667
3 ай бұрын
I feel like the toymaker is just one of the best character in doctor who, it is sort of an self caricature, he eexpresses emotions towards the past and how the doctor hasnt really changed.
@chrisdixon892
9 ай бұрын
I dont know the toy maker character but know NPH it will be played to perfection.
@kainhighwind2
9 ай бұрын
The Toymaker hasn't been seen since the 1st Doctor, so you don't need to know anything prior :)
@ClockMaster-mq2hm
9 ай бұрын
Well, we *didn't* see the Celestial Toymaker in a Doctor Who episode since 57 years ...
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
9 ай бұрын
@ClockMaster-mq2hm There have been non-television stories with him in them. I don't know what they were like, but the surviving audio and episides of original TV story aren't up to much. It's got a cobbled together feel about it.
@captainfalldown
8 ай бұрын
Honestly, Bill getting „upgraded“ hit harder than the rest. And the rest hit so damn hard!
@TheFTeam
8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad it was not just Clara and Amy mentioned. Bill was a great companion even if she only had one season
@advaithmadhukar2609
9 ай бұрын
I like how for amy all the strings are cut because she's dead dead, but for everyone else there's a string left over because they're alive in some form
@matthewperry4387
9 ай бұрын
I love the unsaid storytelling here, the doctor calls out the toymaker for treating the lives of others as a game, but the toymaker points out the lives the doctor has destroyed, without ever needing to say the irony outloud.
@nadialattab8790
18 күн бұрын
THAT'S ALRIGHT !
@goeldicotton
9 ай бұрын
“Oh well, that’s alright then! I’d watch an entire special of just this scene. the toy maker reminding the Doctor of all the people he failed to protect, the people he took responsibility for, and loved, who he let die. Watching ten, of all the doctors, try and justify all those mistakes. Meanwhile the toy maker just mocks him for it. It is just perfectly twisted.
@Filthy_casual1
9 ай бұрын
The toy maker was the best part of the giggle
@MrShowoff27
9 ай бұрын
I wish we spent more time with these consequences. I thought this was such a great part of the episode.
@m.c.bond4288
9 ай бұрын
The Toymaker being a truly cruel being yet doing so by using the truth and somehow making a fair point is all the crueler! The hurt and deepest pain reflected in Tennant's eyes by Harris's performance just going to show how truly talented they both are as actors, immersing themselves so deeply into their roles as to play these parts to absolute perfection...🥲
@ricosanchez5155
9 ай бұрын
NPH has gotta be the best villain in the Doctor Who universe. It feels like he's always belonged there, and I hope he makes a return. This one scene showed how much cruelty he can portray. Never cried so hard, felt like living the feels all over again for the first time. NPH seems to have a joy being in the role, and just eating it up!!!!
@michaelbelcher8805
9 ай бұрын
Not the best villain but it was a great one. Shane they only used him for this one episode
@ricosanchez5155
9 ай бұрын
@@michaelbelcher8805 You think they'll only use NPH for one episode!?!? That's crazy talk. I think he'll definitely be coming back, because it didn't feel like a definitive defeat, he's just in a box.
@eurodara
4 күн бұрын
@@ricosanchez5155 Toymaker returned to TV series after 60 years of his first story, do you really think they will put him soon again?
@Jonsnowmerdinger
14 күн бұрын
NPH did such a great job in this role!
@YoloHunt
9 ай бұрын
The pain he tried to hide was beyond palpable.
@jasonvanhart2405
9 ай бұрын
I love how the Toymaker seems to actually get mad about it. I was low key siding with him in that scene
@masongrae5010
9 ай бұрын
I wanted this special to be like 45 minutes longer these two are amazing opponents
@B-Dawgg
9 ай бұрын
Only The Thirteenth Doctor's companions made it out alive.
@darklina7779
9 ай бұрын
True but, Rose, Martha and Donna also made it out alive too.
@-haclong2366
9 ай бұрын
@@darklina7779Yep, only Moffat tried to have his cake and eat it too. All his Davies era episodes were like that too, everyone survived the Empty Child and the Vashta Nerada, on top of that Weeping Angels literally make them victims "live to death". Moffat's episodes very much fit into his own era both in writing and in style.
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
9 ай бұрын
@-haclong2366 I think Moffatt has serious issues with death that he pours into his Dr Who stories. It's what put me off the series in the end. Dead this week, alive next week companions and people living on as downloaded memories, etc. It became like watching an extended therapy session.
@thelastsnakeprime922
9 ай бұрын
Toymaker: He killed his entire race The Doctor: but i saved them by freezing them in a parrallel dimension
@theCantinafan
9 ай бұрын
Well that's alright then!
@derokdeathaxe6984
8 күн бұрын
isn't that incorrect? yes he did that but also sent them to a random moment in time and space. It's like a whole planet time-travelling. And with Hell Bent and Heaven Sent we saw the Time Lords, and Gallyfrey
@eorlundgraumahne37
6 күн бұрын
“We’ll that’s alright then!” every time he said it he had such disgust in his eyes! the toy maker is really one of a kind
@Motion_Brick
9 ай бұрын
I like how the Doctor try to relativ it, but the Toymaker confronts him.
@cmscalvert
3 күн бұрын
One of the most sadistic villains in the show's history. NPH nailed the performance.
@Ghost-uc8gd
9 ай бұрын
“Some left me, some got left behind…and not many..but a few..died. But not them Brian.”
@Sky26s
3 ай бұрын
Doctor who maybe a silly show at times but when it hits your heart, it hits hard
@cdgamez4580
9 ай бұрын
The Clara death sounds so stupid when they actually say it out loud and without context.
@derokdeathaxe6984
8 күн бұрын
if you ask me, Capaldi is an incredible actor, fantastic doctor but he got some weak plots aside a bunch of them...
@eurodara
4 күн бұрын
because it was stupid thing Clara did
@turnersgauge3430
8 ай бұрын
The shade towards Steven Moffat and his “companions would never leave the tardis willingly” mentality
@NutK453
9 ай бұрын
Bill had the happiest ending
@lunarvagrant
3 күн бұрын
Eh, I think Amy and Rory did. They got to live out the rest of their lives with each other and adopted a child so they got to be proper parents like they weren't able to be with Melody/River.
@seanbhoycfc4834
8 ай бұрын
As sad and painful as this was it was quite fascinating to see for the first time a Doctor who had his own defining companions and losses further burdened by the losses of both his successors and his predecessors. Everything about this return was unprecedented. I would say it was implied by 15 mentioning Sarah Jane and Rose and River coupled with The Toy Maker's celestial word doubling the Doctor rather than one burning to make the next that this latest Regeneration Cycle was crying out for a way to still go on but in a way he could still go at the same pace while simultaneously resting a bit. A part of the Doctor had to take time to process all of it with a Universe that can still always count on him. By causing him pain I believe the Toy Maker gave the Doctor a level of peace he could never otherwise have. Part of him ends the cycle of loss and the other moves on seeming more refreshed than ever Brilliantly done 👏
@aidanfoster6386
9 ай бұрын
The Toymaker has to be one of the Coldest modern doctor who villans
@exunderscorejai
9 ай бұрын
I’m so pleased Bill got a reference. The most criminally underrated companion in the shows history.
@derokdeathaxe6984
8 күн бұрын
very underrated in some parts i even preferred her to Clara.
@jbell2013
9 ай бұрын
He truly loved them... And they loved him they were happy... time is the most precious thing in there lifetimes they changed him made him a better person they died knowing he changed because of them and that's worth dying for there really are thing worth dying for.
@nicolebirenbaum4277
5 сағат бұрын
All three of the characters mentioned showed their faith in the Doctor by waiting for him for large portions of time.
@blacknoir1832
9 ай бұрын
I've watched every episode of Doctor Who, old and new, and I still think what happened to Bill is the most f'ed up thing I've ever seen in the show. She didn't deserve that.
@derokdeathaxe6984
8 күн бұрын
it was grim even by Doctor Who's standards...great story but...damn it was painful...
@Lucid_Spuds
8 ай бұрын
I think the thing is with the doctor he never leaves people the way he found them, either better or worse you will change when you meet the doctor. Often the fundamentals of who you are as a person are compromised and challenged, it shows you who you really are.
@Mintbuffaol
9 ай бұрын
Some people on this planet have lost people but there has been no Man to live that has lost more than the doctor
@lewisdowns4181
9 ай бұрын
If I’m honest, one of the greatest scenes in the show’s history…sums up the complete experience of the Doctor’s travels
@brookse746
9 ай бұрын
i dont understand how clara died honestly, if shes still scattered through the doctors timeline.
@newfanguyjackson4858
9 ай бұрын
Cool plothole.......well, she scattered through the timeline of a doctor who died as 12 and then he didn't die so-the timeline she was scattered through ended
@brookse746
9 ай бұрын
@@newfanguyjackson4858 there is still a chance one of those incarnations was a time lord. i think itd be interesting if he met a companion later on who ended up regenerating and their face was claras
@saulgallagher5668
9 ай бұрын
I don't understand how she died when she's still toaming around time and space in that diner!
@Valiant_Requiem
9 ай бұрын
@@saulgallagher5668she died because no matter what happens, she is dead. The bird kills her in the alley and it is final. But because of time being wibbly wobbly, Clara was pulled out of her own time stream by the Doctor, existing the entire time within a single heart beat, effectively making her immortal. She has to return to the moment of her death one day, she knows when and where she dies, she knows it happens and there's nothing to do be done about the actual fact of it all. But there's nothing stopping her from going back to that moment the long way around.
@MattHarb
9 ай бұрын
@@saulgallagher5668It’s kind of a weird spot, where her death has already happened we saw it happen. But since she was pulled from that time, we can still see her past I guess? I’d put it comparable to River Song. We saw River Song’s death in the library before we actually knew her. So she could always technically come back from a point of time before her death, but we’d never know if that was the last time seeing her or not
@lucifersatani7446
6 күн бұрын
I really loved that David came back as 14. And this scene? Whoah. This scene hit hard. This scene rips open wounds, old and new
@bmcfad12
9 ай бұрын
NPH would be my vote for an American Doctor
@Bluesit32
10 күн бұрын
I love how he drops all pretense of an accent when he says, "Well, that's alright then!"
@finlandguy427
7 ай бұрын
I sense that one day That quote: "Well that's all right then!" Will become a meme 😂
@Nathan_Bowker
4 ай бұрын
Their final words: Amy: "Raggedy man... Goodbye" Clara: "I know it's going to hurt byt please... be proud of me.." Bill: "When their's tears their's hope" When the Toymaker reminded us, those lines flooded back to me, and it hit my heart😔
@ryzekiv7147
9 ай бұрын
Don’t forget ze waitress from ze Space Titanic! She drove ze disembodied head of ze villain into ze atomic core of ze ship!
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
9 ай бұрын
She dies content with her choice.
@WanderingNerd21
9 ай бұрын
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec Well, THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!
@b3ans4eva
9 ай бұрын
She is reincarnated as Cammy from Street Fighter.
@MauseDays
9 ай бұрын
and the waitress in zee tour train. who jumped out of zee door and burned in ze xtonic zunlights? what waz her name? I dont know but she saved me and everyone in that train. WELL THATS OK THEN
@veronicamcghie5238
8 ай бұрын
"Und ze people on ze space train who were killed by ze space mummy while you failed to figure out vat vas going on" "I actually have zero guilt about that one"
@rickengle7208
9 күн бұрын
Whoever wrote this exchange is amazing. The repeated, "That's alright then" nails home how often it end poorly
@jenglishmann2355
9 ай бұрын
Doing Rory dirty here.
@isabellewrightson5845
9 ай бұрын
i loved him saying “well thats alright then” mocking the doctor, because although i love the doctor and i know he has gone through so much, he sometimes forgets the affect he has on others. Hes making excuses for their deaths even though he knows deep down that he is one of the main reasons why they are dead. That scene is beautiful in showing the depth of the doctors character and the impact there deaths had in his life while also emphasising how the doctor may ignore or dismiss the evident pain he has caused other people.
@Gh057.
9 ай бұрын
Amazing special and love NPH's acting in this!
@CajunReaper95
3 ай бұрын
Seeing Neil Patrick Harris play a German accent celestial toy maker is hilarious!
@Nunu-iv5ox
9 ай бұрын
Did anyone else watch this feel sad excited and happy shock to at same time
@Jenifer_R_
3 ай бұрын
I f-ing LOVED this! The Doctor sweeps his companions up in a whirlwind of excitement, then utterly destroys them. But they don't die in front of us... SO THAT'S ALL RIGHT THEN!!
@Newjourney14
9 ай бұрын
Love the toy maker calling the doctor out on his hypocrisy and lame “justifications” “Well that’s alright then!”
@TheShadoreavr
9 ай бұрын
How is he a hypocrite? All he does is save people and then carries the weight of those he couldn't save. The companions know the score and none of them ever say they regret it. The only one with regret is the Doctor
@Sprucepenny
9 ай бұрын
@TheShadoreavr instead of truly facing their deaths, grieving, accepting their own role in it, the Doctor ran from the truth. Their hand in dooming the Time Wars, their companions, countless other failures. It's a recurring theme, and the whole episode is how even if the Doctor saves the day, they still find a way to keep running from the quiet. Where the memories, and hurt can creep back in. The hypocrisy lies in believing that the companions didn't die painfully. Physically, emotionally. That they're still alive in the Doctors memory. (Even though time is non-linear, they are dead. The Doctor witnessed it. Was unable to change their fate.)
@TheShadoreavr
9 ай бұрын
@@Sprucepenny I see what your saying now. Thanks for the response
@NicoledeChantal-p4z
9 ай бұрын
This character was magnificent! So mad, so fascinating, so brutal! I hope we see him again!
@TheWeirdPapyrus95
9 ай бұрын
"but she was killed... 🤨🤔😮 by a bird ! 🐦 🧐🫤😧"
@stoagymahalo5268
9 ай бұрын
Neil Patrick played this so well, like he just watched the series to catch up and started giving grief over the writing, where yeah ... technically they're all alive, but still condemned and love how suddenly doctor remembered clara wiped his memory and went traveling
@Renowildfire1
9 ай бұрын
I grew to a point where i loved Rory but couldn't stand Amy but when the doctor breaks down leaving river with no choice but to stare at the angel so he can bave his moment just broke me
@justarandomchick767
9 ай бұрын
i really need to get back to watching my favorite doctors, i grew up watching it with my dad. and i hate how out of the loop i feel story wize. it really is a great franchise
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