"Don't leave your crease" will be remembered for a while now
@robwri9544
Жыл бұрын
Maybe, maybe not. It is impossible to learn from a mistake without being willing to admit that you made one. Jonny Bairstow hasn't shown any sign of taking responsibility for a situation which arose from his nonchalance and this makes me think he may do it again.
@mazzolaro1
Жыл бұрын
@@robwri9544He did this before some other test match mate
@Jlino77
Жыл бұрын
Great video mate, I’d like to point out to that isn’t spoke much about . As bairstow leaves his crease, at the non strikers end stokes turns around grounds his bat and is looking at the umpire. Safe to say he didn’t think the ball was dead
@ozwunder69
Жыл бұрын
That was valid till 7 years ago then the rulebook changed.. petals can scuk it up have a wnak say sorry to mother and harden the fc UK up
@markrigg6623
Жыл бұрын
He wasn't thinking of much at all I suspect .
@thefury4424
Жыл бұрын
Well spotted
@mswalker70
Жыл бұрын
Correct. I noticed that myself. The other important point was that the ball had left Carey’s glove before Bairstow had even left his crease. It’s just plain out!
@HemanthKumarJadhav
Жыл бұрын
Even in from U-11 our coaches taught us to always stay in your crease when the ball is in play. That is just basics of cricket, to stay in your crease and protect your stumps.
@juvauniegayle9018
Жыл бұрын
It's the fact that he didn't look behind himself to see if the ball was dead. That was a habit drilled into every u11 schoolboy. Bairstow is a doosie individual 😂
@hippo5346
Жыл бұрын
As an England fan , I have absolutely no problem with Bairstow`s dismissal . It`s up to the umpires to decide whether the ball is dead or not . During my playing days , as a keeper , I tried many times to get batsmen out in this way - but I never once managed to find anyone dopey enough to fall for it - and that`s village cricket ! For a test player to fall for it is plain crazy . England seem to be blurring the lines between positivity and stupidity during this series . It`s the Ashes , guys . Sharpen up ! People only talk about "the spirit of cricket" , when it suits their argument . In reality , it doesn`t exist .
@darrenjpeters
Жыл бұрын
Seems to me as though most players and ex players feel as though it was a legitimate dismissal. It's only idiots and attention seekers that have never played the game, plus the odd politician trying to curry favour with the masses that think there was anything wrong with it.
@orwellboy1958
Жыл бұрын
The best we can hope for is that Bairstow has learned his lesson.
@langdalepaul
Жыл бұрын
The spirit of the game is just another way of saying sportsmanship. Are you really saying that sportsmanship doesn’t or shouldn’t exist?
@DunningKrugerJnr
Жыл бұрын
And when the venal cnuts at Sky/NewsCorp promote outrage for their own profits…**** Stokes, Bairstow, Broad, Bazball, Baz and every whingeing English sod who abused their privilege at Lords 😠
@darrenjpeters
Жыл бұрын
@@langdalepaul The thing is, the whole concept of sportsmanship is rather vague and tenuous, and most sportsmen have crossed the line at some point in their careers. It makes it difficult to take the moral high ground when you are just as guilty of sharp practices as everybody else.
@yousufftayyab
Жыл бұрын
mate this video was absolutely gold. last clip perfectly highlighted the hypocrisy of english cricket and bairstow, and how all this drama takes away what really happened - a fantastic game of cricket. to be honest i forgot about how well josh tongue bowled all because of this, and really makes me think twice about some players i had respect for, baz being one and im saying this as a kiwi
@aawe1
Жыл бұрын
The clip is from Yorkshire vs. Nottingham in a County Championship match in 2014; the batsman was Samit Patel.
@quickler1959
Жыл бұрын
100%. As a fellow kiwi, Baz's comments have left me eye rolling. It's not like he hasn't tried that same dismissal a dozen times in his career. I get that you have to be supportive of your team and get around your boys, but seriously 🙄
@richardportelli1983
Жыл бұрын
They just can't take it when it happens to them. Typical english
@Skwiddd
Жыл бұрын
To be entirely fair to Bairstow. I don’t think he’s actually said much about the whole incident. He accepted the ruling and walked off. I’m an Aussie and he seems to be the one quietest about the whole affair.
@matthewrowell8518
Жыл бұрын
The sad part is. I like Baz for doing it. Shows how a alert a keeper he was. Keeping his finger on the pulse and his team in the game. Just very disappointing he didn’t come out and say bairstow should of done better. He knows it and we know it. All it would of taken instead they are playing victim to a white wash in the series
@wayinfront1
Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. And I'm an England fan. Bairstow was criminally careless (not for the first time). Carey did nothing wrong at all.
@KickassUncle
Ай бұрын
Cheers for that, but Carey only tried it on Bairstow because Bairstow has. Comeuppance is the word that comes to my mind.
@ra5aus
Жыл бұрын
It says in the preamble to the MCC rules talking about the spirit of the game it says "play hard & play fair" that's exactly what Australia did. It also says "Respect your opposition and the umpires" & "abide by the umpires decision" neither of which England have done, so it's England who aren't playing in the spirit of the game.
@jonescrusher1
Жыл бұрын
In what way have England not respected or abided by the decision?
@ra5aus
Жыл бұрын
@@jonescrusher1 You are kidding aren't you surely, all they done since the game finished is whinge & whinge about it, so they don't abide by it, they've slurred their opposition by insinuating they've cheated so they've shown no respect to their opposition for clever well through out & executed cricket.
@alne53
Жыл бұрын
English fan here and like the rest of your channel this is great content. As you and all other aussies have pointed out, the side and more specifically bairstow have no leg to stand on when it comes to the "spirit of cricket". When the stumping happened my heart dropped, and it felt unfair - after a few minutes of processing, i realised it was unfair for bairstow to be such a dozey git in such a vital innings. Unfortunately a sizable and vocal section of english fans/pundits went the tribalistic and delusional route instead. I love the conflict as much as the next fan but not when it results in second-hand embarrassment. On another note, scrap the MCC. Bunch of fossils who come from the same traditions and conceptions around the game that have led to the damning report.
@pablojescobar3400
Жыл бұрын
Yeah hearing today the MCC abused Steve Smiths Mother so bad she had to leave and they made an 11 year old son of one of the staffers cry, that he had to be consoled by the entire team imho should all be banned forever from any stadium. Its beyond disgusting anywhere but especially at a Cricket game. That is probably the worst case of going against the spirit of the game I've ever heard of.
@emilchandran546
Жыл бұрын
As an Aussie I had the exact same reaction. Our coverage didn’t show Carey throw the ball, we only heard the stumps break and Bairstow looking shocked. My first thought was “oooh, that’s a bit desperate. Not sure about that.” But the replays began to give a bit of context. When I saw it was all one motion I was satisfied that it was within the spirit of the game, as intangible as that is. But I still felt bad for Bairstow, a player I really like btw. But then more replays showed him walking from his ground, almost immediately, without checking the ball or umpire multiple, times that over. I then felt Bairstow, as a batsman, should have known better. Then the replay of him trying the same with Marnus on day 2, and I mean at this point, as a wicketkeeper, he has no leg to stand on to criticise Carey or the Australians. The stuff Broad was doing was vintage and the sort of thing we love to hate here. A but of theatre, same with the crowd chanting. It soon gets tired however. But the lunch incident in the longroom was when it dawned on me as a viewer that this dismissal had seemingly cut way deeper than it ought to have. I have seen crowds do some pretty sad things here in Australia, but none claimed to be custodians of the game. I honestly did expect better of those members. The post match stuff was also a bit of a shocker. I mean for a side that’s lost two tests in a row, won both tosses and had the better of the conditions, it must be an attempt at distraction. Stokes as captain didn’t congratulate his competition, or really do any reflection on where his side has gone wrong in losing the first two tests. Not a lot of contrition was shown. For me this also comes under the “spirit of the game.” I think it’s a shame. This tactic may have ignited the series with tensions high. But I hope an earnest attempt is made by the English to adjust their game because I want to see a good competition.
@daniello9155
Жыл бұрын
Aus' here, both teams have played incredible games, its just unfortunate that a great match ended this way. I wouldnt do it myself. This cant be compared to mankading as the player is trying to gain an advantage. You can tell by Bairstow's actions that he thought the ball was dead. To me its a pretty shitty way to take a wicket, even if its 'legal' I would have thought that a warning from the wicket keeper should have been given first. Cant wait for tomorrow night. I would like to see England win the next two tests and what a fifth test we would have. Lets see.
@NetworkGeek280
Жыл бұрын
I think this is a measure of maturity. I seem to recall the Aussie general public and media got over the Starc catch pretty quickly, not 24hours prior.
@darrenjpeters
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to how many English players and fans thought that bowling bouncers at a seriously injured Nathan Lyon was in the "Spirit of Cricket".
@gautamv952
Жыл бұрын
Looking at all those replays, it did seem a bit too casual, almost arrogant, on the part of Bairstow to just walk off without checking behind him first.
@thebuff4120
Жыл бұрын
Goes down as one of the great stumping's in cricket!! Brilliant work by Carey.
@benhardcastle2305
Жыл бұрын
😂 no it doesn’t it just goes down as extreme controversy.
@pablojescobar3400
Жыл бұрын
It's the greatest test wicket in history. Which one has been celebrated by the whole world and most of England for days after? Only some extremely salty sooks that dont understand the rules they wrote are upset like Benny
@darrenjpeters
Жыл бұрын
Hundred percent agree. He might be a bit dozy and prone to a brain fart, but Bairstow is dangerous. On a deck that flat, he and Stokes could easily have chased that total. Super work by Carey, he's having a blinder of a series with the gloves.
@pablojescobar3400
Жыл бұрын
@silverrahul Nah its the GOAT. Couldn't of made an entire country cry if you tried. Its also stopped them from being so chummy. It was getting cringe the amount of smiling and joking. This is the fucking Ashes. It's the highest prize in Cricket. Carey may be the GOAT sports person after this. What a man. Maybe even Nobel Prize winner. Second coming of Jesus too
@cheddars2715
Жыл бұрын
how much training goes into hoping the batsman thinks the ball is dead ???? how many hours in the nets did that take ???? is that what you call entertainment and a challenge between bat and ball ???. i don't watch cricket for that...
@aawe1
Жыл бұрын
That's a brilliant clip at the end
@seppomuppit
Жыл бұрын
It is tragic that such a good game is overshadowed by these complaints. So many legends of the game have already come out and said Bairstow dropped the ball and should have known better. You're probably right that this is just a tactic by the English to get their fans and team fired up to do better than they have been so far.
@kavanagharchie
Жыл бұрын
Really don't get why people have an issue with this, he didn't stay in his crease, got stumped, he's out. Its like at the other end people crying because their batsmen can't cheat and run early
@canwelook
Жыл бұрын
Very good summary. And thank you for pointing out the disgraceful comments of Bairstow, Stokes and McCullum (I'd add Broad) which were certainly not in the spirit of the game.
@jamesm2099
Жыл бұрын
Schoolboy error moving out of your crease.
@chrispetritsch1291
Жыл бұрын
I believe Stokes saying he would have recalled a batsman if the shoe was on the other foot is just a plain lie!
@cameramanjack3854
Жыл бұрын
I can’t stop laughing every time I see Renshaw appealing to an invisible umpire at square leg
@ryanmueck832
Жыл бұрын
You calling the comments of Stokes and McCullum a smokescreen was so spot on for me, Bazball was supposed to wipe the Aussies away like a smear and return the Ashes to England in a blaze of glory. The hype was built up into an absolute frenzy to the point where neither the team, nor the English public can accept the simple truth: your team just isn’t as good as ours is and hasn’t been for a long time.
@harjot21
Жыл бұрын
Bazball was always going to fail against well prepared teams.
@nicolasdubus669
Жыл бұрын
That's an English problem in every sports since many years and that's why 1/ they don't win titles 2/ they're judged arrogant by every one
@jacobburtonswfc
Жыл бұрын
If Australia are so wonderful why did they use sandpaper to alter the condition of the ball in a test?
@nicolasdubus669
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobburtonswfc such a gentlemen sport. I didn't knew much about cricket but now everyone is pointing the cheating of everyone and as I said ... such a gentlemen sport
@jacobburtonswfc
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanmueck832 Only 5 years ago with two of the cheats still playing
@RtB68
Жыл бұрын
Professional cricketer at the highest level and at a critical time in a tight moment of a gripping match makes a schoolboy error and cries - loudly - that "it isn't fair". Please, just stop.
@paulgill2042
Жыл бұрын
McCullum was on the NZ SEN cricket show and was asked about the 'beers' comment. To paraphrase, he basically said that he knew it would play well in the English media and more or less laughed it off as that. I think they're just using it as a tool to try to get the crowds onside. They should be pissed off at Bairstow for making a mistake usually only 10yr olds make and then learn their lesson. Also, the 'Spirit of Cricket' is clearly defined in the preamble to the laws. It states that the umpires authority is to be respected. No more, no less.
@kiz5562
Жыл бұрын
looks bad now, considering our media here in Aus blew up that story recently about the English team refusing to have drinks with the Aus boys at the end of the Oval test last week. I liked McCullum as a batsman when he was playing, but he shot himself in the foot with that comment. Didnt he take 10yrs to apologise for that Murali runout he did? Maybe Carey/Cummins will backtrack on the stumping in 2033 sometime haha.
@catherinewillis5414
Жыл бұрын
This is by far the clearest and most accurate summary that I've seen or heard. Thank you!
@timblizzard4226
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, excellent video
@dmcinne2
Жыл бұрын
Excellent content and exlained very well. I like the "Smokescreen" piece and agree that you maybe right, to move the focus of the media away from the poor England performance. Well done, and shame on MCC behaviour, appaulling spirit of cricket.
@davidfletcher6064
Жыл бұрын
Is anyone taking the English side in this 'debate' seriously suggesting that if Alex Carey and fumbled the ball and Ben Stokes had called Jonny Bairstow through for a run, that Jonny would have declined and politely informed Ben that as far as he was concerned the ball was dead! Of course not.
@piglos
Жыл бұрын
Haha
@michelleobama3362
Жыл бұрын
That’s such a good point, yet to see anyone bring that up. Its only in the spirit of the game if it affects the batting side and the English.
@Krapvag
Жыл бұрын
@@michelleobama3362 no it isn't, just because they messed up doesn't mean they don't then get punished for it
@russdy1982
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Amac1218
Жыл бұрын
One point of the incedent that doesn't get mentioned is that when the stumps are hit, greene is only about a foot away from Bairstow, halfway down the pitch, I could understand if he was grabbing his hat back from the ump, but it just shows how fast Bairstow left his crease. Also it's bewildering that Bairstow didn't look back to see where the ball had gone at anytime. What if Carey had of fumbled the ball? He could have missed potential byes.
@matthewlay9221
Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people have lost a lot of respect for Brendan McCullum after this. I know I have.
@Darfaultner
Жыл бұрын
He never had my respect. He's been riding a high horse for decades. Typical narcissist.
@kiz5562
Жыл бұрын
took him 10yrs to apologise for the Murali run-out. Maybe in 2033, we'll hear Carey backtrack on the stumping haha. English media are such hypocrites.
@daveannis2280
Жыл бұрын
English ex-cricketer here. Bairstow was 100% out. Well spotted by the keeper. As a batsman it's drilled into you to check where the ball is before leaving your crease. Bairstow made a schoolboy error and failed to do this.
@thatsbollox
Жыл бұрын
I think Johnny thought it was him that decides when the ball is dead. He also believed it was him that decides when it is end of the over. All he needs to do is scratch at his crease. He didnt even look back. He just took off. Carey threw it before he had even walked out of his crease. He managed to achieve what Bairstow tried to do, but couldnt. It is a fairly common thing in lower grade cricket, and many keepers attempt the stumping at test level...it just does not often work at test level because the batsmen have been around long enough to know better. It was a terrific piece of wicket keeping. Too much silly emotion took over. Carey has had a v v good series so far. Bairstow has been awful. If that ball hit the stumps and went to the boundary, they would take the 4 runs 100%, and the crowd would have been very happy.
@jed2055
Жыл бұрын
@thatsbollox Good summary; well thought out and written. As I maintain,, no controversy here.
@tomblack6965
Жыл бұрын
THE best explanation I have seen for this ridiculous imbroglio. Thank you.
@chrisbrannigan6210
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely nailed it. Tounge was fantastic in his debut Ashes test. Almost unplayable for those few devastating overs. What a great addition, especially with Broad and Anderson looking fairly creaky in the joints. Can we talk about Pat Cummin's double wicket over, with arguably the best ball of the series to Brook? Starc's return to the side adding some heat to the attack? Lyon batting with a series ending calf injury? Stokes's innings nearly won the match, and without another top order batter at the other end, had to carry the run chase himself. Warner and Smith are still in the Australian side, and it's taken me a while to be ok with that as an Australian. But this team feels like the most "fair" team we've had in a years.
@darrenheading4057
Жыл бұрын
I got out stumped when playing indoor cricket for leaving my crease due to me missing my shot and being frustrated with myself for playing a poor shot. My instant reaction when stumped was "that can't be right," but when I had a second or two to think about it, I knew I was out. I have never left my crease again in the same manner and realise it is my responsibility as a batter to be aware of my position in the crease at all times.
@anthonypirera7598
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great wrap up. I would of liked to hear your first edit
@Crudmonkey211
Жыл бұрын
It’s useful to watch the previous few overs of Bairstow leaving his crease early without checking behind him. Bairstow as a WK should know better. In fact he does, as he tried the same thing in the same game. Carey is just the far better keeper.
@ContactReal
Жыл бұрын
Spirit of the game is always thrown around when it works for the losing side.
@strangenameforaband342
Жыл бұрын
Surely it's in the spirit of cricket to protect your wicket, it's something you can control. So something personal like Stokes was talking about. So was Bairstow acting in the spirit of cricket? You can go on with this sort of stuff. Great video mate.
@Jacka101
Жыл бұрын
loved that clip at the end
@dennisleighton2812
Жыл бұрын
Excellent description and analysis. Thank you for providing a well-balanced perspective, based on solid research and a well-written report.
@harperlee6383
Жыл бұрын
By calling into question of the spirit of the game, Stokes and McCallum violated it. He's put into question Cummin's captaincy by not withdrawing the appeal. That's not in the spirit of their game. They should accept all decisions made by the umpires and congratulate their opponents on their success.
@crusaders9861
Жыл бұрын
I agree that the dismissal was within the rules but it was poor by Cummins. It is sporting to congratulate the winning team but you can’t congratulate that particular moment
@GC-369
Жыл бұрын
The Spirit of Cricket - distilled with English tears and aged in vinegar barrels.
@jacksonconstantine5740
Жыл бұрын
Is that how you justify Aussie’s long history of cheating to win?
@GC-369
Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonconstantine5740 only 1 documented instance of cheating as far as I can recall. Unlike the English, of course, who have never used anything, such as mints, to tamper with the ball.
@jacksonconstantine5740
Жыл бұрын
@silverrahul when? Bodyline? Everyone knows Australia are perpetual cheaters, it’s part of your DNA. Just accept it.
@guyfanno1
Жыл бұрын
Layed it out straight. Well done. I thought the spirit of the game was accepting the umpires call and getting on with the game.
@owenbarnes773
Жыл бұрын
IF Stokes wouldn't want to win a game that way, WTF is Bairstow doing trying to get Labuschagne out in precisely the same way, in the same test 😱 ... pure, unadulterated bull💩 and sour🍇
@SimonFirth-c9f
Жыл бұрын
The "spirit of the game" is surely learning, understanding and respecting the rules and accepting the umpires decision. England and Bairstow demonstrate none of this. WE shed OUR tears as 8 year olds In backyards and at school To leave your ground say "wicket leave" It's how WE learnt THEIR rule.
@friedbeans047
Жыл бұрын
Nice video, this helps to clear things up for many people who are confused with the bairstow wicket.
@willywhonka
Жыл бұрын
Every team has done it but conveniently forget that when it happens to their team. If it's against the spirit of the game change the rule. Otherwise play til the ball is dead, if you get caught out it's only yourself to blame.
@ozwunder69
Жыл бұрын
This is like malcolm fraser being caught with his pants down
@daniello9155
Жыл бұрын
ha ha ha, a lot of people would not know what you are talking about, but still funny never the less.
@AyushMishra-fi2wv
Жыл бұрын
I just realized that carry throwing tha ball before Johnny crossed his line and ball hits the stumps afterwards
@electronwave4551
Жыл бұрын
It seems to me Bairstow did not leave the crease thinking the umpire had called 'over' or the ball as presumed dead. He had the habit of walking down the pitch to pad-down the spot of the last delivery. To do that he has to keep a mental image of the impact point. This image fades quickly, so he trots off soon as he can. When he was stumped, he trotted off without taking care if the ball was actually alive. In the video you can see Bairstow's eyes are fixed on the area of the last delivery and mindlessly walks toward it. Carey (or others) had previously observed Bairstow's habit. Bairstow lost situational awareness. He did not really know where the ball actually was (he assumed he knew), didn't know what Carey was doing (assumed he knew), and wasn't really sure what he himself was doing (in thinking a foot scrape behind the crease is enough to make the ball dead). He was preoccupied with tapping down the impact point on the pitch. It was one of the intermittent lapses in concentration he has.
@jonlimon_
Жыл бұрын
really loving your stuff mate, thanks for another great video
@kugsyy
Жыл бұрын
It’s not like he held the ball and waited for bairstow to walk out of his crease, like what bairstow has done in the past, he caught in and threw it as soon as he could. Englands excuse that the umpires moved was the umpires fault for not realising it was a stumping attempt. It would’ve been really disappointing if it was given not out because the umpires weren’t focused. England trying taking the moral high ground after bowling bouncers at Lyon who is struggling to stand because of a injury is disgraceful
@bok1080
Жыл бұрын
As a lot of people have said, it is within the rules of the game. Even a previous England captain (Vaughn) has said that it was a 'brain fart' on Bairstow's part to leave the crease without looking at the keeper and 'getting the nod' that the over was over, if Carey had stumped him after giving the nod, then it would have been against the spirit of the game. Given that Bairstow had attempted to do the same thing in the same match (and had done the same thing in another match and when asked about it said it was withing the rules so it was ok) then I don't think that the England team can use the 'spirit of cricket' defense in any way for this, as they have done (or attempted to do) the same thing themselves, I think that Bairsow (and the rest of the team) should take Baistow's own advice from 2014. Interestingly the MCC has disciplined the members involved in the altercation in the long room. And dare anyone mention bodyline?
@DeceasedDuck
Жыл бұрын
13:20 and its also the fact that they waited for years and years just for the opportunity to stand in such a prestigious position inside the long room, just to stuff it up by saying things that really didnt need to be said.
@kosan2875
Жыл бұрын
i can tell they waited years and years. They all old af... also grumpy too
@nicholasmudrinic4464
Жыл бұрын
The last bit of footage was absolutely brilliant.
@jacqloock
Жыл бұрын
Mitchell Stark’s non-catch was against the spirit of the game because he obviously caught it and never dropped it or even lost control.
@paullyon3760
Жыл бұрын
As an England fan, England need to remember what the Ashes is all about.
@harveyholmes9533
Жыл бұрын
What we really need to see to calm everyone down is a game winning, walk off Mankading for England in the third test
@russdy1982
Жыл бұрын
I wanna see the English bowlers continue to bounce the Aussies, and on an occasion an Aussie handles the ball… The English go up and appeal and the crowd rise as one for a dismissal… Then the batsman says ‘nah, I was protecting myself from injury’… keep his wicket and go on to score a glorious ton.
@warrendonpaul4549
Жыл бұрын
100% agree! Theres no difference between a spin or pace bowler.. if you leave your crease your going to get stumped
@ol.berry01
Жыл бұрын
I can't remember how Bairstow was described by the commentary team, but I'm pretty sure it was something along the lines of sloppy. And I'm in complete agreement! He's a professional sportsman and should know the rule book. The opportunity presented itself and the Ozzie's took it. Fair play! I'm convinced England would have done exactly the same given the situation and have little room rattle on about "being in the spirit of the game" when the only ones who appear to be taking liberties with it are some of the fans and in particular the MCC members who heckled them on the teams return to the pavilion. Going to be an exciting 3 remaining matches of the series, but any mention of this being a "potential turning point" will be bollocks!
@fry_me
Жыл бұрын
Those of us who have played many years of cricket also have had the pleasure?? of having to umpire quite a few games also and one thing was always clear; when an umpire called out quite loudly "over". When this occurs there can be no doubt that the ball is then dead and the batsmen are free to tend their garden, make small talk or engage in some other mental outlet all they like. It seems the ICC and their umpires rarely seem to do this nowadays so are they then contributing to the murky waters which is easily put to bed if this simple act is followed? I have also had a keeper throw down the stumps of a batsmen that overbalanced and stepped out of his crease and foolishly never stepped back in when the keeper was 15 yards (ok 5 yards as I was never that quick) away and have it deemed a stumping as the form of dismissal. Clever work by the keeper no doubt and no argument from the opposition nor the batsmen. It happens...move on...next game please. Leave the hystrionics behind and learn from your mistakes. I was still finding new ways to be dismissed or "never befores" after 30 years of playing the game.
@LukeO9
Жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be 'sporting' for Duckett to walk after being caught by Starc ? - it was not dropped, it was in the field of play and was from a legal delivery.
@jaikumarjadhav6575
Жыл бұрын
Good points made. Given England are only 2 draws/1 loss out of 3 tests away from losing the Ashes at home, of course they'll make the stumping the biggest talking point for the next few days Or even weeks. Also, McCullum, Bairstow, Broad and even Stokes should reflect on their own actions which violate so called spirit of cricket.
@daniello9155
Жыл бұрын
To a certain degree I agree, when one side is doing it doesnt necessarily justify us doing it. Wicket keeper could give him a warning first and then go from there. Bairstow wasnt trying to gain an advantage.
@marcuslowe2164
Жыл бұрын
@daniello9155 alot of stumpings off of spinners aren't trying to get an advantage, they're usually trying to get back😅, stumpings off seamers should definitely be fine too
@cheddars2715
Жыл бұрын
how much training goes into hoping the batsman thinks the ball is dead ???? how many hours in the nets did that take ???? is that what you call entertainment and a challenge between bat and ball ???. i don't watch cricket for that...
@daniello9155
Жыл бұрын
@@marcuslowe2164 different circumstances, part of the wicket keepers job is stumping during the play/miss of the ball, this was close enough to being a dead ball. yes it was legal.
@daniello9155
Жыл бұрын
@@marcuslowe2164 Correct but that action is during the play, Bairstow was just going for a wander
@timotyfinlayson9963
Жыл бұрын
The clip at the end is all that needed to be uploaded 😂😂😂
@surojitchowdhuri3337
Жыл бұрын
Hands down the best analysis of the incident on the Internet.. well done mate, cheers!
@cheddars2715
Жыл бұрын
that game could of ended up being one of the greatest test matches of all time . the whole country might have stopped what they where doing and turning on the tv at 6 pm to watch a truly inspirational moment in the history of english cricket...but no because the batsman thought the ball was dead he was justifiably given a warning...ALL WE WANT IS ENTERTAINMENT.....
@donhill8869
Жыл бұрын
Whats the difference between Bairstows wicket keeping (missed stumping of Travis Head) and Carey's stumping (successful) of Bairstow? ACCURACY
@PhilipKloppers
Жыл бұрын
Question... should the incident at 0:40 not have been ruled a no-ball? The ball had not yet been bowled and was not in play, and the bowler had stepped over the crease before dislodging the bails.
@catprog
Жыл бұрын
38.3.2 Ball is dead
@PhilipKloppers
Жыл бұрын
@silverrahul Quite right - dead ball is what I should have said 👍👍
@stevenbeharry4498
Жыл бұрын
chef's kiss on the last part of the video
@XaviRonaldo0
Жыл бұрын
As an Aussie (albeit not born yet during this incident) I don't agree with people who blindly say there are no laws banning an action meaning it's fair as that underarm delivery by Trevor Chappel was an absolute disgrace and took advantage of a hole in laws of the game that shockingly never foresaw this happening. That absolutely was against the spirit of the game and Greg Chappel should be ashamed of himself ordering of all people his brother to do such a disgraceful act. Would you excuse killing someone if murder wasn't illegal? Having said that I think this dismissal isn't at all comparable. This isn't taking advantage of a hole in the laws of the game. It was taking advantage of a stupid batsman who got what he was asking for. I also see the mankad as fair. If the runner wants to get a Headstart then they take that risk.
@XaviRonaldo0
Жыл бұрын
@silverrahul do you think the citizens of England under Henry VIII thought that it was ok to behead all those people just because he's a king? I doubt it very much
@bruisermac6797
Жыл бұрын
Great video, well made and extremely well said.
@timblizzard4226
Жыл бұрын
I actually dont have a problem with mankanding. How else are you supposed to keep the non striker in their crease? The rules are written like that for a reason.
@macattackmicmac
Жыл бұрын
I think the spirit of cricket has a role in specific situations. For instance if a batsman is injured and falls out of their ground only to be run out, or when a batsman and a fielder collide and the batsman is left stranded. As long as there is no deception or malicious intent involved then anything goes.
@nicknick3014
Жыл бұрын
Bairstow started the game carrying off a protester, ended the game walking off in protest.
@Malincanada
Жыл бұрын
Whenever "The Spirit of Cricket" is invoked it's usually in a, "He shouldn't have done that!!" way. Usually by someone who 'should' have done something (stayed in their crease? watched the ball?) but just didn't bother.
@shubhankarpradhan2672
Жыл бұрын
The fact that he himself is a wicket keeper makes it even more hilarious 😂😂
@jatinkumar7287
Жыл бұрын
Stokes: i wouldn't wanna win this way by crushing spirit of the game..... Stokes in wc 19: i wanna say sorry to them but we won so what can u dooo...... Broad: u will be only remembered for this.... Broad remember for: edging the ball still playing in 13... Getting hit for 6 sixes... And many stupid thing that can happen to one bowler happens with broad. English crowd is just the avg child u will cry if he's answer comes wrong and then talk about why don't u just take back your decision to fail me... It's an ever ending story of crying Englishman who will cry not on the rule but why opposition took advantage of it. I didn't feel stokes talking about starc catch that it was immoral of their team in the spirit of the game to consider it not out. English crowd were happy with it but not the other way around. If in cricket hypocrisy had a face it would be England for sure. They cry on every game they lost.
@bobbywilliam
Жыл бұрын
It was explained wisely and correctly good job mate ........................... i wonder if it was dealt with THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME and Bairstow a ben Partnership wins the test for England then these same people and media would have said something else ( what a beautiful show of the spirit of the game shown by Aussie which cost them a test but we are now 1-1 job done ).
@stevensmith797
Жыл бұрын
spirit of the game , the english version , bradman , the respons , body line , yep , spirit alright lol
@sectokia1909
Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the exact law for Mankad? Some say it has to be 'before' the delivery stride, some say after. Also is the delivery stride the step of the front foot to the crease line? Or the next step after that? No one seems to know.
@Sunny-sc5vq
Жыл бұрын
The batsman shouldn't be out of the crease before the ball is supposed to be bowled. That means, if the bowler has completed half of his bowling action, he/she can't run out the runner. The difference between Ashwin's runout and Australian bowlers runout was that the Australian spinner had almost rotated his shoulder and was at the point of release, whereas Ashwin had even begun his rotation of the shoulders. The Australian bowler deceived the runner, whereas Ashwin didn't because you're not supposed to be out of your crease before the bowling action started.
@canwelook
Жыл бұрын
@sectokia1909 Mankad: if the non striker is out of the crease any time up until the ball is normally released by the bowler, he can be run out. Dumping that silly custom is a good thing. The non striker needs to stay in their crease just like the batsman or risk getting out.
@MON-ud7sw
Жыл бұрын
Two comments. The wicket keeper had thrown at the stumps before Bairstow left the crease. Baiirstow did not even glance behind before leaving the crease. He should be embarrassed.
@1_percent_upgrade
Жыл бұрын
Players on both sides can often get over-frustrated or over-ecstatic due to certain dismissals or turning points But coaches like McCullum should lead them to realize the mistake (indeliberate though) so it does not happen again
@kaustuvtimilsina1919
Жыл бұрын
Very fair assessment mate
@brianandrea3249
6 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t be an Ashes series without some sort of stupid controversy being blown out of proportion! Broad was obliged to walk, Garry Pratt legitimately ran out Ponting, mints are apparently a legal device to shine a ball, and Carey stumped Bairstow. It all part of the Ashes rich history, amplifies the rivallry and is part of the reason why we love it!
@brianandrea3249
6 ай бұрын
Typo correction…Broad WASN’T obliged to walk!
@peterfan8650
Жыл бұрын
They don't understand what the "Spirit of Cricket" is. Here are some parts of the THE PREAMBLE - THE SPIRIT OF CRICKET from the MCC Laws of Cricket. - Accept the umpire’s decision. - Show self-discipline, even when things go against you - Congratulate the opposition on their successes. If they understood, they would have said "Well done chaps, youv'e done a good one on Johnny" and moved one. Instead they whinged & whined.
@BJMStan
Жыл бұрын
They are not rules, they are laws!
@sugarnads
Жыл бұрын
Are they acts of parliament? No. Theyre rules.
@BJMStan
Жыл бұрын
@@sugarnads Parliaments are a lot like the MCC, significantly overestimated in terms of importance
@DeepThought9999
Жыл бұрын
@@sugarnadsook it up. Laws of Cricket. They are not just rules. Written by the Marylebone Cricket Club, the MCC. That same club whose members were so disgraceful in their behaviour in the Lords Long Room, where they were both ignorant of their own Laws and where those members also flouted their own “Spirit of Cricket” that form the preamble to those Laws.
@RHope7
Жыл бұрын
Therefore rewrite the rule to say " thou shalt not throw the ball if the batsman has claimed his crease at the end of the over".
@s.lingesan
Жыл бұрын
Let's say the bouncer hits Bairstow and he falls outside the crease and it looks like an injury, then the run out is against the spirit of the game. This wicket is legal and fair
@Pal_edits
Жыл бұрын
I will say in mankd out the batsman was trying to get unfair advantage to steal a run or 2 but in case of bairstaw case was different.
@loblolly777
Жыл бұрын
The other thing I have noticed is that Ben Stokes has never (that I have heard) categorically stated he would have withdrawn the appeal. His language is careful in this regard because, I imagine, he doesn't want to paint himself into a corner.
@joshsimpson6144
Жыл бұрын
The fact the umpire isn’t even looking and walking off clearly shows he thinks the over is finished
@N330AA
Жыл бұрын
Yes that's the other issue. Arguably it was poor umpiring too. Although once it went to the TV that was out of his hands.
@mrspeaker6720
Жыл бұрын
The stumping has been examined almost as much as the 2005 series. It's ridiculous, given how it was, as you say, 110% out.
@XaviRonaldo0
Жыл бұрын
The England fans seem to forget how bad the rub of the green has historically been for Australia in England. They had many decisions go against them in 2005. I remember one where Katich was cruising on 60+ on a pitch that was doing plenty and got given out lbw to a ball pitching 2 feet outside leg. We had a good chance to win that match if Katich went on to make a big score. What about in 2019 when (yes we wasted our reviews) umpire gives England batsman not out on a delivery that blind Freddy could see was out.
@mrspeaker6720
Жыл бұрын
@@XaviRonaldo02013 was also a shocker for wrong decisions against Australia. And in 2005 we could have won the Edgbaston Test even Kasprowicz was wrongly given out. The thing is though, this one (against Bairstow) was the correct decision. Unambiguously.
@XaviRonaldo0
Жыл бұрын
@@mrspeaker6720 yep and not even against any spirits of the game. On a side note was it the Edgbaston test as well with the Katich dismissal?
@mrspeaker6720
Жыл бұрын
@@XaviRonaldo0 oh noes you've exhausted my memory! :)
@davidcorrigan6578
Жыл бұрын
International players continuing to make club and school Cricket mistakes. Use to watch the ball leave the bowlers hand even at the non-strikers end. Use to tap the bat behind the crease at the end of the over.
@wizofoz0605
Жыл бұрын
The genius of the Carey action was not only to dismiss Bairstowe, but also to ensure he played the next Test. Absolute liability with the gloves and ordinary bat at best. Long may he play!
@jed2055
Жыл бұрын
Well put together but apparently other people in another country won't ever see it this way. By the way, I am all for Mankad and I will give my reasons. The non striking batsman must to stay in his crease until the bowler's arm in bowling is past the vertical. He must keep his crease and it is a crease not just a line he may if he feels like it, stand behind, just as the striking batsman must maintain his crease if he doesn't want to be stumped. Stealing a couple of metres is what they do in softball and baseball and played by millions I might add. It is not only in the rules but an expected part of play when a pitcher instead of pitching to the batter, throws to a baseman to "out" a runner stealing ground. It's a fair out and there is no controversy. As you said you can't have it both ways. Either play by the rules or make up your own as Jonny Bairstow does. That's why running out at non strikers end is in the rules and as such is allowed AND will continue to sit in the rules because it is part of the game. Last thing; there is no controversy here ; this is the English whinging that they are now losing when they thought they had a system which allowed them to win ALL matches. Test cricket in England is dying and this new Bazball was a way to bring the crowds back. I was commenting to my wife before the first test that our team will test this new playing method because while Bazball will work against "weaker teams" it is a different matter when you play a strong team. I won't crow about that but I was proven right. The Poms are losing and this is a nice little diversion to keep the shark-like English media off their backs.
@scottiethegreat74
Жыл бұрын
If it is within the laws of the game, then it is within the spirit of the game. If it was against the spirit of the game, then ot should be outlawed in the laws. For me, the spirit of the game is about how you conduct yourself on the field, in areas not covered by the laws. Having a broader version of the spirit of the game might work with low level amateur cricket, but with the amount of money involved these days, the spirit of the game is ridiculous. If you can use the laws to generate a legitimate win, then that is perfectly fine. As far as I'm concerned the actions and words of some of the England players, and the members in the long room, THAT was what was against the spirit of the game.
@laurak1545
Жыл бұрын
We all love a beautiful dismissal - a great catch or the ball hitting middle stump. But every wicket will not be beautiful - it's a legitimate wicket
@jigwitwig3749
Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown! If TLDW, at least watch from 14:12. Very obviously what the English would say, "calling the kettle black"!
@danbill9165
Жыл бұрын
This is our fair and square , I did this when I was 12 and I never did it again. This is an epidemic of arrogance across the English team causing blind faith in whatever they do , highlighted in the recent report into English cricket it’s what you get with a bunch of public school boys
@deepakfrenzy
Жыл бұрын
Lets take a closer look at both umpires right before Johnny walks out of the crease. The main umpire is taking bowlers stuff out of his pockets indicating its end of the over. The leg umpire has started walking towards the wicket on the other end. Most often the umpires just don’t call the end of an over (nobody looked at that in this match).Johnny wasn’t attempting a run (neither was stokes). By things unsaid here, it was end of the over. 😊
@trikeabout
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on and well reasoned.
@DirectorToby
Жыл бұрын
English guy, here Bairstoke deserved to go. Laziness! Stoke's can have era defining moments but they mean nothing if you still lose.
@holaclive
Жыл бұрын
Does spirit of cricket exist? It was first raised by Australia during the body line series. They said it was against the spirit of cricket (although within the law) They said they wouldn't tour England if bodyline was repeated. Harold larwood was made the scapegoat and never played Test cricket again. There have been numerous incidents since raising the spirit of cricket. Is cricket a game only regulated by laws?
@BrosBeforeHoes-L
Жыл бұрын
Showed my 11 year old this, he's played for 5 years, and he instantly says out! Also we're from NZ so don't have a foot in either camp. Peace
@BennySantana501
Жыл бұрын
English fan here - In defence of Stokes and possibly McCullum's comments they were made immediately after the match and didn't have the benefit of a replay, or were able to calm down have a beer and think about it. I did, and my opinion has changed. Wicket-keepers like Carey having a crafty shy at the stumps due to a batsman wandering out of his crease is nothing new - in fact it's very common. Bairstow did it two days earlier as you alluded to, and 99 times out of a 100 it comes to nothing, other than wake up the batsman a bit. So for Bairstow (who is a wicketkeeper himself) to be dismissed like this is careless on this part. Also, the MCC members chanting 'Cheat, cheat, cheat' was absolutely disgraceful. They were nothing more than a bunch of beered-up hooray Henry's.
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