I've played Archeage since 2014 beta. I'll start with the long perspective to make my points later, which is that there are fundamental game design flaws. Over the years, I get the sense that we're given bandaids placed over bandaids leading to as many problems as real fixes. Add that to the 'there are many different versions of the game' and then task the developer into maintaining all those, and confusion and mistakes add to uncertainity of the game design and patches. The entire history of the game has been like this, slowly eroding any trust the playerbase had, because we never knew from one patch to the nest what new hell awaited us. I, like you, was really thrilled when Kakao took over. I had all but quit before that, but got very excited, hoping that FINALLY, all the confusion was going to be gone, and we'd be dealing with the developers directly and getting the best version of the game, without all the bandaids. But mistake number one was a lack of communication. No one told us that we'd be losing items in the transfer. They should have prepared us, rather than letting us get hyped and logging in that first day to find huge amounts of things simply gone. To have to rely again, on word of mouth from other players who may or may not have heard something from a CM on discord, or a message or someone's brother told his Guildleader who told a guy on Reddit... I still don't have a lot of things from before the transfer. And I get it, I can accept it, if they'd only made it feel more like they weren't tricking us, OR, defaulting back into the confusion of wtf is going on and no one really knows and we're not being told, so we can only assume the worst! Then mistake number two is waiting 3 months to take the credits away. They should have taken more time to figure out the Rosen token solution or whatever, and left compensation until they had a solid solution. But first, I hear that people 'hacked' the cash bags, which is why they took them away. Then, weeks later, we're told they miscalculated. But I'm not fucking stupid, I know it's because no one is buying credits so they're regretting their decision. But there are better ways to have handled it. Like, they could have had the team offer cosmetic item 'boxes' for credits, with NEW things, not just shit we can already get. I get the feeling that they don't have anyone in development anymore, everyone must be working on AA2 or something, because it's not that hard to model something, texture it and add it to the DB when it's cosmetic only. Finally, while gold buyers and sellers and cheaters are annoying and ultimately game destroying, it's too late in the race to do what they did and crack down draconianingly. They should have taken out the biggest offenders and occasionally scooped someone up as a deterrent. What happened is a substantial population of core players were all buying gold, and taking them all, killed the game. On top of that, they killed the fun and time sink of Archepass. It might still be worth it if there were new updates to the manastorm marketplace litems, but it's all the same, week after week. And so what do we do? There's no crafting because that system was killed off in a variety of ways over the years, there's no trade, because that's become rote and not even as profitable as grinding purses. Farming? No one buys much because no one makes anything. There's no PVE, so you can't even run dungeons with friends. And the timed events/dungeons whatever, well, you're lucky to get them to pop, not enough people. And endgame? Forget it. It was a 1percenter thing at best, and now much of that content lies unused. So truly Dead Game. Which hurts my heart. I have loved AA for 8 years.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I loved AA when it was good, but I had to leave it when it was clear Kakao couldn't handle it as a publisher.
@brianafrick7837
2 жыл бұрын
greetings from an archeage veteran of six+ years. I began on Kyrios, moved to Reckoning, only to be merged with Kyrios into a new server, and then finally merged again into the new Ospheros. blegh, what a mouthful. anyway, much as I hated having to reaquire land every time....this credit mess is insulting and unprofessional. Kakao had a list of everything (they thought) didnt match up, and compensated us according to whatever those items were valued at. I know that they got the values in many cases flat wrong. the numbers of credits were wildly different across various players and even alt accounts. But this is not why I'm pissed off and quitting. no, I'm pissed off and quitting because they took back the credits that they gave us as compensation,. as well as any credits we'd bought with the previous publisher. I'm quitting because for three months I used those credits to build up a HUGE ammount of infrastructure that relied on having those credits available. I still had plenty left, and could easily have kept it going two years. that was my plan. if I had not gotten those credits, I would have done things VERY differently. like not building so much. at all, really. now I'm limited to having this stuff for six months. I wasted a lot of gold and other resources and if I'd known we'd lose the credits, I'd have done things vastly different. Giving us those credits in the first place was a HUGE mistake, and taking them away was a GIANT troll. Further, I know other players already spent the credits in full. some players have "patron" for literal years, free. I kept the credits, to use them as needed. and...now I have none. But I also fully expect kakao to realize how "unfair" this is, and take away our purchased patron time as well as anything else we bought. they've proven they don't respect us, or our wallets. why would this be any different? I see giving us the credits only to take them away after three months as nothing short of a gigantic tease. "this is how it feels to have money, now go spend some" No, Kakao. you cannot have my money. I don't TRUST you not to just take it away when your profits aren't high enough. end rant.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the fact people who spent them are covered, but people who didn't got screwed is another fuck up on the part of Kakao.
@Murasama
2 жыл бұрын
I wrote about this on my personal game blog (condensed but still long version here); basically the same feeling from the start (biting off more than they could chew with moving to the global build, not properly noting the delta between that build and the one Gamigo was using while merging the servers at the same time while taking over the transferred account info). My personal gauge (for Unchained) was how they would handle things during everyones initial 90-day (minimum) free period. They proved in the first week after relaunching they were incapable of properly managing this IP. By the end of the month, my mind was made up about voting with the wallet (the UI issues were still unresolved by XL until after the new year, and there are still problems yet with some settings not saving). As for the credit compensation for missing items, it was incredibly off since on my legacy account, all of my original credits (from Trion) came from when they closed Devilian (as we had a choice of which game we wanted our credits moved to). Thus my original balance was 12K (never bought any credits specifically for AA with Trion). But Kakao Games ended up compensating around 17K. A lot of this was for items that were from Trion stream giveaways and some of the Trion specific compensated stuff. On AAU, it was a lot more; around 120K credits (my original AAU balance transferred from Gamigo was around 17K). None of the compensated credits was for the Lucky Hiram Infusions (I had none of those); it was however from the ton of missing items they had calculated in the listing they posted on December 7th. I even submitted an inquiry if they had overcompensated me and was pointed to that list. So I just shrugged and didn't think anything of it. Fortunately for me, they didn't remove those transferred credits (unlike some other folks who logged in to zero credits last week) since I didn't buy much (the credit shop in AAU is underwhelming at best, legacy would've been easy to spend it all). Yes, they removed the overcompensated credits last week (the same ones I had inquired about closer to launch and pretty much pointed back to the news posting implying it was correct). Now I get they were caught in a bind (red flag probably showed up due to little revenue for credit sales over these 3 months) but they really botched the handling of this (3 months later even after some of us inquired earlier, removing honored transferred credits for many, removing credits even purchased from Kakao for many, no itemized list of how all this is being done where some players said they in no way spent all of the overcompensated credits). This is what I liked about the Glyph platform; the transaction history. Kakao Games has no similar customer facing frontend. As for the Rosen Crystals, my main character was compensated 639 while my other character got 320. On my alt AAU account where I never bought any credits (and only had the 630 that Gamigo gave out for some sort of compensation), I received 151 on one character, and 153 on the other. I presume this was for some of the cosmetic items from the first few Archepasses. On legacy, my main character received 172 while a low level alt got 13 (for the costume is it missing). I can see why they created a new currency; to lock them specifically to a character instead of being account wide. The AAU pricing is off on some items though comparing the credit and Rosen Crystal cost for something like the 7-day Salon certificate and Dye. Costs 1100 credits and 3 Rosen Crystals for the salon certificate while the dye costs 300 credits and 11 Rosen Crystals (they probably got these mixed up lol). Anyway, all of this really cemented the deal about Kakao Games Europe being the worst western publisher for this franchise; that says a lot because both Trion and Gamigo were pretty bad to me. I personally didn't bother with Elyon mainly because I didn't like how it turned out (as a TERA player, I'd been following that Bluehole title when it was known as Project W and then its prior moniker, Ascent: Infinite Realm, and had played the KR closed betas and SEA open beta before the revamp). So I wasn't aware of how Kakao Games Europe were handling that launch except the last minute change in the business model (I learned after the fact it had similar web inventory exploits). As for AA2. The simple answer to that for me is "hell no". On the publisher side, Kakao Game Europe burned through what little goodwill and trust they had during what was this 3-month period where they should've pulled out all the stops. On the development side, XL has released shoddy after shoddy client builds to each of their publishing partners (all of whom only mainly validated them to make sure it plugged into their platforms and payment flow before greenlighting the rest of the actual buggy mess for production); don't see that changing with AA2 where they are probably learning and working through a new production pipeline on the fly (CryEngine versus UE5) meaning a whole bunch of new holes for the "exploit early, exploit often" crowd.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not one of those content creators that doesn't share. You could post a link to your blog on the topic. I think it would be a useful link for people to see, plus Kakao needs to see as much feedback as they can on this topic.
@Kymss-j9z
2 жыл бұрын
I have given up. I was on the fence. I put my houses down at land rush but there was a month or more after the land rush that players did not get offline labor. I chose to wait for them to fix this before I re-engaged. They fixed the labor issue and then took away the credits...all the credits I had as someone who played for hours daily for around 6 or 7yrs. I logged in once then just because I couldn't believe the credit theft had really happened..just incredulous! I'm sorry for dear friends who were still engaged in the game. Years of mismanagement culminating in the worst mismanagement imaginable.
@Kymss-j9z
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your 101 classes that helped me through the years.
@Kymss-j9z
2 жыл бұрын
Oh and as an example of how much stuff they took in the evolution..the previous merge I had over 100 pages of mail to empty out of my mailbox. This evolution I logged in to 8 pages. Incredible
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even log in to see how badly I got screwed.
@katehinson572
2 жыл бұрын
I will never play another Kakao game - or anything with AA brand. The only reason, that I am still a part of AA community, is because of friends. As far as I can tell, I did not have any of the items that were "overcompensated". Before Kakao I had credits that came with me from Gamigo. Among the many items that I lost, are Items that gave labor and an awesome glider - extremely valuable to me. In addition I purchased credits from Kakao. Now I have a zero credit balance and patron until August. (Unless they remove that)
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
So its like making a purchase, getting a delivery of a bunch of stuff you didn't want, you can't return what you got, you can't get what you want, and you have not desire to do anything with what you have?
@evililfairy
2 жыл бұрын
They had enough time to calculate the credits we should have gotten back. The fact that they still continue to mess up at this point is ridiculous. Since the launch events have been messed up, customer service is at an all time low, and these "compensations" are just a jab at what we really lost.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Its like I pointed out, with something like the Mittani Cloak. Of course you are going to give people too many credits back when you give them 500 credits for an item you gave out for free.
@boomerangele
2 жыл бұрын
I've played since 2014 and this will be my last year. I've always been willing to spend for good game play. In fact, I know I had credits on the book when Kakao took over. After Kakao's reboot I suddenly had quite a lot of credits and a lot of lost items. I sent in a ticket and was told in their response to me to look at the list of items that had been removed from the game. Not useful. Many of the items I lost were still available in the game. Then I was shocked to see that if I re-purchased them I would have to spend twice as many credits as they originally cost me. Since costumes, mounts and glider customizations are vanity Items I decided not to waste the credits on them a second time. I should have dumped those credits into patronage. One day some of the missing items mysteriously showed up in my mail. That would have been the appropriate time for Kakao to have subtracted credits. Instead, they waited and without warning stripped all credits away. Now all of them are gone - everything they gave me plus all the credits I had purchased under Gamigo. Rosen crystals (of which I was given over 1000) cannot even be used for patronage. I feel so abused. When my patronage ends in April I am gone. I refuse to spend another penny on this game. Kakao does not deserve my money.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
You already bought it, so here's a portion of the credits that you used to buy it, so that you can spend twice as many credits to buy it from us.
@xCROv
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork they took away the credits that they gave you as compensation for items they removed. It wasn't credits they were just free to take without blow back. The most damning part of this is the overwhelming complaints on the discord about how this was done and the lack of a response from the CM team on the issue. They literally all packed they crap and left on Friday after making the change. GM Rhotazz was a notoriously controversial GM with Kakao when they published Black Desert. Constantly thinking that he knows what's better for the community than the community itself. They have since rewarded his incompetence with a promotion over both the GM and CM teams so I have little hope for AA2. Kakao as a company is a lost cause and I won't be playing any of their games in the future. I hold the CM team, Rhotazz specifically, personally responsible for the failure since his only job is to pass along community distaste to his superiors, and that he has failed to do among many other things.
@LeAudaciousPanda
2 жыл бұрын
I was paranoid when I received compensation back in December.. so I invested in months of patron and archepasses premium… I haven’t given them a dime up to this point. But still I was affected. Guild mates and friends quit playing.. killing the community even more after weeks of mass banning.. future for aa looks bleak
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
That is such a shame.
@Gogofat
2 жыл бұрын
When the added stuff to the marketplace that was removed and "compensated" with credits for a higher price I said goodbye. I won't be going anywhere near Archeage 2 knowing this is how they treat customers.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
That is exactly why Kakao just screwed AA2 before it even got finished. AA didn't have a huge Western Audience to begin with. If 10% to 20% of the population feels that way, that probably leaves them without enough projected players to even bother.
You are welcome. I didn't see many other people covering this, so I felt I had to.
@influenzacoughsalot1966
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork your video is making it's rounds... folks need to know what they did to their paying and loyal customers/players...
@evenstar4647
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this vid Jahlon , you know this game so well even tho you dont play it anymore . Ppl need to find out about this big scam Kakao pulled on us . They screwed up by stealing credits that ppl bought with real money and they make it worse by sending these crystals that literally cant buy anything worth in game.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I was happy to make this video. Now I need people to spread it far and wide. Media outlets, bigger content creators, anyone who can put some more views on this. This needs to be at the top of the media because this is criminal. This is the flaw in the online games as a service thing. They can just take away things you pay for with cash.
@redfoxs3528
2 жыл бұрын
I stop playing AA around AAU when they had that transaction issue. Gamigo had charged me 5 years worth ($540) of Sub for AAU which was a huge red flag for me. I tried getting my money back right away. I was spamming ticket,forms,discords, and social media to help it took them 3 weeks to give me a partial refund. They gave me back $350 and said it was the full amount trying to scam me out of $190. Then a month later they still didn't give the money back I gave them transaction IDs and all the emails with the charges. It wasn't until I threaten to drive down to their Austin branch that they gave me back the money. I lived in Waco at the the time so it was totally doable. After they I canceled everything I had with that company. I was looking at coming back to AA but after see this I am not. It just remind me me how companies like this like to fuck over the little guy. Thanks for the making the video.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
It is always interesting to me how they win by just sending people denial after denial and people just give up.
@siddanth06
2 жыл бұрын
They didn't just steal credits, they stole our gliders, costumes, cars and alot of things. I had a Kraken Glider before merge/transfers, after transfers it was gone, removed. An endgame super hard to obtain item that I grinded months for. And not just me, thousands of players had alot of their gliders removed. Ravenspine, TWT Glider, Black Dragon Glider all gone. Been 3 months and still not compensated for or restored
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Trion Worlds had a different Kraken Glider in NA. So it had a different database ID. When they went back to the one build idea all the NA gliders were poofed.
@justinpeace6841
2 жыл бұрын
My trust is gone. I will definitely wait a year, at least after AA2 launch, to see the direction of their marketing.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
The sad part is, you are 100% right in your course of action. But since its an AA product 1 year will probably put you too far behind.
@Kymss-j9z
2 жыл бұрын
Oh I will not go back for aa2
@patronus5855
2 жыл бұрын
I lost EVERY equipable piece of equipment on my merchant schooner and I cant even get some one who might be able to fix it to talk to me. Tickets fail, they see the word "missing" or "lost" and it appears to trigger a form letter responce directing me by link back to news they posted in Dec, that 400 item list you mentioned. Then closing the ticket as "resolved". None of the items however are on that list so being directed there is stupid as it doesnt apply. Take a closer look at the newest shop for the crystals youll observe that the Unchained shop is smaller then the regular Archeage one.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
This just keeps getting better and better. I'm sorry for what you are going through.
@ralmslb
2 жыл бұрын
I played on average 6 to 8h a day on my 30 days free trial and from that experience, it was clear that one of the main issues with the game was scars from its pay to win days. One of the things me and my friends felt was that there were way too many currencies, that now "without" pay to win, didn't make any sense to be kept. I'm glad I didn't sub for this game, considering they have shown 0 improvements on the way they operate. Having critical bugs not fixed for over a month and now this, just proves that Archeage is destined to die thanks to Kakao incompetence.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Kakao Games doing Kakao tricks.
@Keyosu
2 жыл бұрын
I lost faith in Kakao during their AA launch. Tried to defend their time with BDO but their rep is tarnished now. I was looking forward to AA2 but now I won’t hold my breath
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
They screwed up their AA launch horribly. They did no ground work, they did no discussion with people who were trying to tell them what the players wanted.
@PlayerSalt
2 жыл бұрын
On the one hand they gave all my alts 76 thousand credits so i had half a million credits across characters from all the shitty freshstarts on the other hand they deleted legitimate credits , i cant buy patron to pay for land , they never restored my underwear that got destroyed , why would i buy more credits in a game that deletes them
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the fact the GM said "we screwed up" and then just blew off people was enough to know Kakao doesn't care.
@candy7780
2 жыл бұрын
I'm stunned that a gaming company can have such a blatant disregard for its player base. After over six years of game play I'm so disappointed that they made this decision. It almost smacks of buying AA to tank it on purpose. You don't give players something to compensate for items not transferred and then take it away...that's just ridiculous. It's not like we wouldn't have spent the credits and purchased more! Players are already disappearing and I expect a lot more will too. I myself am downsizing and selling most of my tradeable items. When my patron runs out I will most likely quit. In the meantime I am already searching for a new game not owned by Kakao. Very sad times.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
The key part here what Kakao Games needs to realize is that you can't treat your players like this. They give up on your entire company, not just one game.
@candy7780
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork Thank you for making this video! They will never get a dime from me in the future!
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Now we need to get it shared far and wide.
@Qtish
2 жыл бұрын
Too many credits on certain items - but also too few credits for other items. People lost eternal perfect undergarments with lunafrost and fully gemmed, and were given 1k credits for it.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. That is an example of the GM/Support Team/CMs not knowing anything about the game they are trying to manage.
@chooze9328
2 жыл бұрын
huge and unprofessional blunder by them, also looking forward to your thoughts on ArcheWorld
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. And their CM who reached out didn't do much to help fix it.
@MrTsorge
2 жыл бұрын
The rosen crystals they gave out as compensation for the compensation removal are a scummy tactic they're using to try and avoid a lawsuit. I've read about similar cases in the past and if you take compensation for something and spend it, you forfeit your right to sue over it. So everyone taking these rosen crystals and spending them is just digging the hole deeper. The whole situation is fucked
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a true statement in American law. Often times if you accept any compensation for something you have agreed that it takes the place of what you should have gotten.
@mcgruff7355
2 жыл бұрын
They stole my cash bought credits too. I'm really annoyed.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
That is why I made the video. Taking credits that were paid for with cash is unacceptable. I mean, chargebacks are a thing.
@MrTsorge
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork the problem is they'll ban you for a chargeback. Fucked if you do, fucked if you don't.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
This is true.
@Jacquelynex3
2 жыл бұрын
I'll keep this short and concise. I've played AA for the last 8 years since 2014 under trion, gamigo, and now kakao. I love AA/AAU and have been extremely loyal to the game even after the awful treatment from the publishers. I got many friends to join me and we still play to this day (some have become inactive, ofc). Honestly there's no other game like it. I was hopeful during the Kakao transition because NO ONE could've been worse than trion or scamigo, especially since they maintain the majority of shareholders... but I was wrong. I tried to remain positive and encourage my guild to hang in there and keep playing. The sneakiness about the server merge, item removal, piss poor communication, credit removal, overly-trigger happy with the bans, etc... This last stunt with removal of the credits has sent many of their last remaining players away, and I don't blame them. I am beginning to lose enjoyment of the game and very hesitant to reinvest my life into AA2 after these last few months. I'm actually quite upset about it and it takes a lot to ruffle my feathers. Get your shit together Kakao or you won't have an AA2. LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
If they ever try to say they didn't know that doing the merges and the fresh start at the same time would be a bad idea, they are lying. They saw the video I did telling them to slow down. Especially since they had just fumbled Elyon 2 months prior.
@KathyRose848
2 жыл бұрын
I've just read through the other comments and somebody mentioned ArcheWorld. I'd completely forgotten about that game. So I'm throwing out a request to Jahlon right now, PLEASE do a review of ArcheWorld when it releases. After what Kakao have done to ArcheAge, it might just be the greatest 'shit show scam' on Earth.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I will do a review on Archeworld when it comes out.
@myrddinwyllt3383
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making a video! They really dropped the ball. This has created a huge imbalance in the game. Some people got to spend all of their credits. If you were smart and held onto your credits waiting for the market to normalize, then you got all of your credits stolen from you. Some people now have erenor because of all their sold credits and other people are left with some shitty bound costumes. This is just bullshit.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for supporting the video by leaving a comment on it. Sadly, I don't have the reach of other content creators but at least the video is making the rounds.
@myrddinwyllt3383
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork We all need to reach out to content creators to get more people talking about this. They bully us because they believe they have all the power, but if people realize it, WE have all the power.
@maraeden7355
2 жыл бұрын
Severely disappointed.. lost absolutely everything I worked hard for questing and events to earn… and credit items I purchased all over the years… absolutely discouraged to even login now… sad to see such a great game ruined and destroyed 😢 PS *waves* hey Jahlon miss you my old legion leader! (Wispa)
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely amazing that Kakao, who owns XL Games, could screw this up so badly. They had all the time they needed to get it right, instead rushed it like they did Elyon, and pretty much everything else they do and screwed it up.
@dex5637
2 жыл бұрын
Still the best openworld MMO feeling out there... after 8 years of fk up ^^.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
That's the absolute worst part of all this. Archeage could have/should have/would have been the best open world PvP game on the market, but every publisher has just beaten the game up.
@clumsytomatogarden6009
2 жыл бұрын
I played from jergant opening till 3/3/2022. taking down my houses and sorting my inventory. This was the last drop but the other issues they created are just as big. They took 150$- worth of my credits. they force me to take all rosen crystal they give out less then we suppost to how because of credit spend pre transfer to the new currency.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even log in to see how badly my legacy account got screwed.
@LlexX7
2 жыл бұрын
Im playing AA since KR CBT4, seen a lot of fails from the publishers over the years, but this credit theft was the biggest WTF i've ever experienced. Firstly they compensate the missing items (after migration from Gamigo to Kakao) with credits, these credits seems to be randomly distributed as alt-mule accounts often getting more than main ones, we are begging to them to do a rollback as something is very off, they say that everything is ok, they double/triple checked and this is final... Time passes, 3+ months, and they come up with the idea that they just remove (steal) the credits afterall. Took them 3 months to realize that none is buying credits, as they gave away hundreds of thousands to players, millions to alt army owners, and during these 3 months absolutely none was buying any credit, and no profit was coming in... They are just greedy profit orientated losers, and the team running the game now is absolute garbage.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Kakao needs some fresh faces or their company is going to go the way of Trion.
@tetsuth
2 жыл бұрын
I have been playing MMO games since the original Everquest came out. I have NEVER seen a game company screw up so badly before. I will never play another game from this publisher. It took so much time and effort to earn all the items that were lost. It feels as if an employer went into my bank account and took back most of the money I made at the company...
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen something go so poorly either. Like I'm not sure if they are trying to do worse than the previous versions.
@apollyon23456
2 жыл бұрын
I gave them another chance in Unchained, got burned. Was tempted to try again, then heard all of this. I'm not going anywhere near AA2 now.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people aren't going anywhere near AA2 because of this. Kakao needs to shape up.
@JohnAPrescott
2 жыл бұрын
Jeesh, what a mess. Glad I stayed clear of this game.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
This is a dumpster fire.
@1GoldenBreeze
2 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing Archage long ago when I had a subscription and could not find a place to build a homestead after trying for months.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
That has always been a problem with Archeage. That's a server population, server merge, problem.
@myththryl
2 жыл бұрын
Its Easy, People Brought Credits, People Brought DLC's, with Items , and those items were removed from the DLCs we brought with real money, so they decide to remove all the credits to 0, its this legal?!! Kakao is just a smarter publisher that has a lot of power and nothing can stop them to do what they want, and i wouldn't be surprised if they block those people who complained and dont let them play the games from Kakao, also wouldnt be surprised if they behave like kids and say " HEY guys we are sorry but we have to shutdown archeage, there isnt enought income money our profit" .... prepare guys , Kakao is indeed the Milky last ridde of Archeage and Archeage's Graveyard. Sad :( And Paradox my old Buddy since Archeage, Great videos!! it has been a hell Journey watching you with Archeage and other games. it was a pleasure to meet you online, may we survive this war in real life, and may things in laws of consumer rights get better. Slava Ukraine! "May we meet again"
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Identifying the problem is easy. Identifying the way ahead is hard. I got invited to talk to Kakao and when I went to the official discord to get some data points from people I basically got attacked. They are upset an outsider got a conversation and they didn't. It was actually embarrassing to be a part of that conversation last night.
@myththryl
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork Oh old buddy, diddnt knew about that, and i dont see a reason because of tht atacks, i am actually surprised and happy you can be a channell of voice and a way to find solutions. Please dont be demotivated by some bullies. Keep Strong Jhalon Epic Healer of Archeage!
@myththryl
2 жыл бұрын
i am really sorry you got atackedd as well :( thats not nice.
@KathyRose848
2 жыл бұрын
ArcheAge is my favorite MMO of all time. But this latest 'slap in the face' was the last straw for me. I stopped playing on the day this shit hit the fan. I won't be going back. I've completely lost all trust in these companies and will never give them another cent. So I'm just going to stick with ArcheRage from now on.
@artisans837
2 жыл бұрын
After playing since 2015 this theft which is what it is then a bandaid fix up apology lost all respect for this Company. Fortunately i used my credits I got for Compensation but to see the rest of the Players shafted and treated like this has me thinking now that when my Patron finishes in a year i hope my new character in Arche Rage will see me go in a new direction …. They made a big error one of many….
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Sad part is people probably won't go back for AA2 either.
@lancevancedance2284
2 жыл бұрын
we need to include a twitter hashtag with these , people need to know and hear it
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I did get three media outlets to cover it. Sadly, that's about as far as my influence goes.
@Xalphoria
2 жыл бұрын
i frankly stopped playing after unchained the launch was a lot of fun but as it went on it started to really show its flaws like of course the issues with the economy at the beginning and for god sake how the server would lag when a bunch of people went into the library raid it just idk man didn't feel fun i loved playing through it the level experience is one of the best iv had in an mmo just that right mix of gaining gear and exp at the right rate
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
They totally ruined the December 2021 fresh start by just giving away like 25 codes, half of which gave mana-storm crystals. Why have a "fresh" start if you are just going to give everything away.
@hasanea
2 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to hate archeage 2 already. I'm telling everyone after this scratch they did to me!
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
You know and I don't blame you. This is where Kakao needs to do a reach out through a content creator, AHEM *Jahlon* AHEM and really sit down and talk about how they screwed up badly and what sort of things they are going to do to 1) make this right 2) make sure this doesn't happen in AA2.
@hasanea
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork I don't trust xlgames games anymore because archeage has always been poorly managed. I think the reason is xgames! Thank you
@morris_c0de463
2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that can bring back the player base is a new game. The community is too small now for any publisher to treat us well, because there's just no money in it. Hopefully, AA2 will have a big enough player base at launch to keep the P2W at bay for a year, year and a half, just like the original
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Do you think enough people will be able willing overlook this mess to try or support AA?
@morris_c0de463
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork the opportunity cost to play a free MMO is very low, and there are now and are going to be a lot of MMO refugees for a while. These people aren't going to bother to play ArcheAge I don't think, even if every problem was fixed instantly. But a new game might attract enough fresh blood to make veterans come back.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there are a whole lot of AA players, so I think pretty much AA is about to dry up.
@morris_c0de463
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork you can only mess with a dwindling player base so many times. I remember when cash shop add specialization snowflakes way back in the day... And we used to think that was bad...
@mcgruff7355
2 жыл бұрын
And the amount of Rosen crystals was about enough to get a couole costumes or battle pets.. I'm pissed
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I did hear that
@luizbatista8118
2 жыл бұрын
When gamingo, i just logged once to organize my stuff. Now I came back from a long time out and i have 00,0 APEX. No credits, near 3k Roses and thats it.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
So nice of them to do that huh?
@92Diel
2 жыл бұрын
we want our credits back! :@ this is unfair with people who didnt spend it! People who used all credits before they remove have enormous advantage!
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I brought that up to the CMs in the conversation I'm having with them. We will see where that goes.
@92Diel
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork thanks 👏
@Mokocos
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I don't even know why I came back to ArcheAge if I knew they where going to screw people over.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Because its like a bad relationship. You go back because when its good its great.
@zeprahzzz
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork With Kakao it's never good though. I will never ever give this firm a dime of my money. Sure, I didn't pay anything for this iteration of the game. I can live with fuck ups like with Trion and Gamigo but Kakao are by far the most unlikeable game company I have ever dealt with.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Very true about Kakao. I meant we go back to Archeage because it was good. When weas the last time it was good again?!?
@zeprahzzz
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork Well the state of the game has been detoriating for years but overall the treatment Kakao has given their players is bottom of the barrel. It used to be easy to forget about all the things that have been changed for the worse and focus on the good old times but it's a lot harder to forget if you were treated like dirt by the publisher.
@Socrates271
2 жыл бұрын
Stopped playing AAU back in Jan 2020. Pop was beginning to decrease back then due to all the weird events that messed up balance, lack of space, and exploiting going on. Great core game two years ago, but it's outdated now. XLGames/Kakao do not have what it takes to support & make this MMO good. After seeing this video I will not use any XLGames/Kakao products anymore.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem here is that Kakao may have killed AA2 before it even gets finished.
@coyotetracker1
2 жыл бұрын
So you said kakao owns CXL games. I think what they just showed us is that trion and gamigo's monetization methods were from XL games directly and not from the publisher. If anything this cash grab attempt from them shows that they wanted trion/gamigo to push harder on p2w. The western publishing of archeage has been all about profits. I did transfer my characters over to kakao when they first took over with hopes of AA having a future but I doubt ill ever bother logging in. Wish I could get the money back that I spent on AA through the years.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Kakao only acquired their majority share in 2018 or 2019. It was after Gamigo was the publisher in NA and EU
@coyotetracker1
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork Ah ok. See thats less sinister there but overall this current move is still outright dirty.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
@@coyotetracker1 Absolutely. Their current move is total trash.
@GeorgeNoX
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, does that mean all my credits are gone? I haven't played since they took over, just logged in, saw that half of my stuff was gone i had previously earned or bought, got a bunch of credits they gave me but since the items i lost were not on cash shop i didn't spend most of it. Quit a few days after when i saw how are they handling the game. BTW, have you heard about ArcheWorld, Kakao and XL announced it a few days ago? Its basically ArcheAge but all items are NFT's lol
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Your credits may very well be gone.
@GeorgeNoX
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork damn man, i never thought Kakao would fck up the game even more than both Gamigo and Trion did, but guess i was wrong. This means i pretty much have zero incentive to ever come back to the game. Does not bode well for AA 2 i fear...
@eurovisionwtf
Жыл бұрын
You lose stuff worth 100k+, and in return you get the ability to cast a cat portal.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was clearly not Kako's finest decision.
@occido
2 жыл бұрын
Kakao went on a 3 month train of fuckup after fuckup, after fuckup, after fuckup with just about full radio silence despite having 10+ CM's. Even banning players now for things that have been happening for 7+ years and is the only way to progress certain things (drill camp for kyrios badges). This is permanent damage to the game and kakao name, nobody with half a brain cell left is gonna start to play a game owned by kakao games or even go near archeage 2 now. The only reason people still play archeage as of right now is the years of investment they got into the game
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Kakao needs to realize that their CMs don't know what the fuck they are doing. They didn't in Elyon and they didn't' in Archeage. That was clear by the sheer number of things they gave away in AA Fresh Start launch. They put the servers on Easy Mode.
@artisans837
2 жыл бұрын
Moved to private server wonderful still on AA patron runs out in a year wont be renewing lost a lot of money with Unchained as well so really angry and fed up….
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
They are doing some sort of meeting this Thursday, but I think its too little too late.
@Miesmuschel90
2 жыл бұрын
GENERAL TERMS OF USE KAKAO GAMES EUROPE 10.2. REIMBURSEMENT OF KCoin, GAME CURRENCY Notwithstanding the above, Kakao Games Europe will provide compensation for the Game Currency and/or Virtual Items in the following event: loss of the Game Currency and/or Virtual Items or expiration of Virtual Items resulting from an attributable hardware or software failure on Kakao Games Europe’s side, provided that the User is not involved in any way in the events that lead to the loss. fact: we lost our stuff during u did the transfer. fact: we got the credits for it. fact: u took away our compensation for UR mistake
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
That's about the size of it. Sadly this video only hit about 1,000 people in the first 24 hours so I don't think its going to gain traction. I have reached out to some MMO websites to try to get them to take a look at it.
@Miesmuschel90
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork we posting ur Video over and over again on AAKakao discord!
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
LOL, I reached out to some media outlets, but so far nobody has picked up the story. Need to get a much larger creator to do something about it.
@absolem04
2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't xl just publish
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
The simple reason is because a developer and a publisher are two different things. Its like why doesn't an author just open their own bookstore. I mean they could, but its not a good use of time, effort, energy, and resources
@swizards01
2 жыл бұрын
Wtf is going on? I just play this game no problem and watching those news that we almost go to WW3. Kakao stock will go down because of Western sanction in Russia.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
So I think you are the one one not affected by the credit scandal so far.
@swizards01
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork I don't lost any credit. I'm happy I got some of my item back. I guess its a bug it happen to me before while Trion and Gamigo transferring the data.
@talemire258
2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeesh
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@EduKiljaden2
2 жыл бұрын
increible how a private server are doing best things than kakao.., yes im talking about Archerage,
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
True
@lifestick5127
2 жыл бұрын
@paradox Gaming Network.... Fresh start Nehiya server every week banning players for rmt or other reasons! that not exist!They just banning players and dont respond to tickets!That company is a big failure and i hope that will close and a better company take this game because archeage is a masterpiece! I know guild mates from my server that got banned for no reason or banned for rmt and the funny think its that they didnt rmt...i personally banned for rmt! Kakao games is a house of clowns! and i hope the worst for this company!Frest start is dead right now and the real rmt sellers or buyers a lot of them are not even banned!
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty standard story for Archeage. People who are doing bad things don't get banned. People who are innocent get perma banned for no reason and can't file a ticket.
@Adrian890722
2 жыл бұрын
So glad I stopped playing this grind fest daily shiet.. could of been Amazing
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed it could have and should have and would have.
@shivo4328
2 жыл бұрын
Of course it's need to be fixed but wait a moment ... Will see how they will sort it. I know you trying to keep in grave any games that it's not ashes of creation anyway. So let them work as they need a bit of time to do stuff if not that's over.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 жыл бұрын
So first of all, what do you mean I'm trying to keep in grave any game that's not Ashes of Creation when I cover other games. I cover another MMORPG called Fractured. I also cover stand alone games. Second, I mentioned in the video twice I only made this video because a community member did the research and then asked me to. So, point that hater-boner somewhere else.
@kalieskifstad1357
2 жыл бұрын
Wait to see how they sort it out? I lost all my credits I payed money for in fresh start. Payed for patron I never got over a month ago. The patron compensation they gave out didn't even work. How long do I have to wait and see if they will fix this dumpster fire?
@kalieskifstad1357
2 жыл бұрын
on top of all that no Rosen crystals or anything
@Kymss-j9z
2 жыл бұрын
My understanding is the rosen crystals are the fix. That seemed underwhelming.
@clumsytomatogarden6009
2 жыл бұрын
No they actually are doing bad things. If you having fun with the game play it is all good. They took 150$ worth of credit I purchase. They are scaring the comunity I try to give my gold away while quiting and no one wanted it because ppl is afraid of ban for untrackable gold. Games do not suppost to scare you. I will give them time to fix it AA is the best game I had played. I wont give them any more money till they fix it tho.
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