10 years ago in high school I fell in love with this cadence. I stg
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming back to hear the update and getting some nostalgia!
@keus7453
4 жыл бұрын
YourLocalOpp me toooo
@EpicRapBattles10
4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Im in college now and this brought me back to middle school days when I used to watch your videos as inspiration to make my own compositions. How the time flies. Thanks for uploading!
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for staying tuned for so long, Chazz! Hope college is treating you well. Thank you more for watching! Escaping a Nightmare update is next btw!
@Flexersen
4 жыл бұрын
Oh LORD that snare solo STILL hit😭
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening.
@jackmattern3738
Жыл бұрын
Would it be possible for you to make a video or even just upload pictures of eq and effects for your bass drums? They sound awesome
@EricPeelMusic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening. If you look for Daniel Makes Cadences’ comment here, I replied with info and photos of the EQ process. Hope that helps.
@uh869
4 жыл бұрын
Love it. Eric, everything you make I fall in love with.
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for watching! And subscribing!
@justinstaska1491
4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this for a while. Pretty awesome.
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be a little late! Hope the wait was worth it though. Escaping a Nightmare is next! Expect that one in January.
@dedede5586
3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS FIRE
@EricPeelMusic
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for commenting!
@kachihung9744
2 жыл бұрын
hi
@EricPeelMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Hello!
@AdamLindgrenComposer
4 жыл бұрын
Good memories, my old friend
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
They were good, indeed! I’m updating a lot of circa 2007-2010 stuff now, nice to see you here checking it out. What have you been up to these days, Adam?
@ARMProducts1120
4 жыл бұрын
This slaps!! Another great update!! EAN is next if I’m not mistaken?
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, Antonio! And yep, I'm working on EaN right now! Hopefully it'll be mid-January when I'll share that one.
@DanielMakesCadences
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome cadence! How’d you get the basses to sound cleaner? I’ve tried tuning mine but it seems as though the overtones overshadow the actual tone of the drums
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah, just speculating here but I think most of the bass drums in VDL were recorded off axis, meaning the heads were not facing the mic consistently drum to drum, and so the lowest frequencies of some drums get lost a bit. I used a lot of narrow EQ bands for each drum (individual outputs) to tame these overtones and bring out the fundamentals, especially bass 1 and 5. Hence why I think they are off axis, makes sense if they were positioned in a straight line with the mic in front of the middle drums. Or perhaps the room sound distorted the tone of the drums inconsistently. I put a very aggressive high shelf boost to bring out the mallet click sound too, on the full bassline. Also I used compression to bring out the punch, tame the echo, and then bring out the resonance, especially the bottom two. Not standard audio-activated compression but a plugin called Volume Shaper. It’s the only way I’ve found to control the shape of the sound of rudimental drumming and its dynamics. Might make a video on all this, as I don’t think anyone else has bothered with this stuff for VDL.
@DanielMakesCadences
4 жыл бұрын
Eric Peel Music Alright so I tried doing some of this stuff and I still couldn’t figure some of it out. When you EQed the drums, did you remove the frequencies where the overtones were or did you just lower them? And with Volume Shaper, what did you do to bring out the punch and resonance?
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@DanielMakesCadences With acoustic instruments, you rarely want to entirely remove frequencies, instead just want to make subtle cuts. First two images are the EQ curves I used for bass 5 plus the full bassline mix respectively: imgur.com/a/X70MjMV. You can see a huge cut at 125Hz, but this is actually a dynamic band. It relaxes to 0db when the drum hits, and then cuts the mud after the hit. there is a lot of valuable punch at 125 Hz, but the resonating frequencies there are unpleasant, for bass 5. And there needs to be room for the fundamental of bass 4 and 3 to resonate in that area. With volume shaper, you're essentially controlling the envelope (shape) of the sound each time the drum hits. You need to send the MIDI of the drum to Volume Shaper so it can react to every hit and expand the sound of the punch, compress the echo immediately after, and then expand again to bring out the resonance. The punch is 20-40ms, and the resonance lasts 300ms - 2s depending on the drum. Audio needs to be chained from the Kontakt track to the VS track(s). The last two images on the link are my VS curves for bass 5, the punch and the reso, respectively. Stay tuned for a possible video on all this in the future, keep bugging me about it every once in a while if you wish. But hopefully that is enough info so you can figure it out for yourself.
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention, you should notice a boost around 200Hz. This is the lowest enharmonic overtone of a theoretically perfectly tuned membranophone and it's important. Membranophones (like all percussion instruments) have strange overtones, and the first, lowest one is about 1.6 octaves above the fundamental. This is unlike harmonic series systems which have whole integer overtones (8ve, P5, P4, M3 etc), like a bass guitar. So as you learn about this stuff, don't let the strange overtones of percussion instruments throw you off!
@jonhamilton5128
4 жыл бұрын
What sound library do you use? Sounds real crisp
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Virtual Drumline, but with a lot of much needed EQ and compression!
@503music6
4 жыл бұрын
what is that chart at the beginning? 1:15
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Bass drum tuning
@503music6
4 жыл бұрын
@@EricPeelMusic ah thanks
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@503music6 Yeah, idk if you are able to watch in 4k and read what the chart says, but it describes tuning intervals, not absolute tuning. The relative turning between bass drums is important to get them to sound loud and clean. But virtually every high school and college line I encounter has poorly tuned (or not tuned at all) drums.
@503music6
4 жыл бұрын
@@EricPeelMusic thanks man, my drumline has very poorly tuned basses.
@shaanthakker9995
4 жыл бұрын
Do you use dorico? If so, that's what I use, but I can't get the sounds in virtual drumline to sound right!
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
No, I don't use Dorico, yet. You mean like if you write in a regular hit, you'll get a rim click? Something like that?
@shaanthakker9995
4 жыл бұрын
No, it’s more like flams and diddles sound wacky. I love the software but there needs to be more integration with vdl, and percussion in general needs some work.
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@shaanthakker9995 Yeah, that's why I don't use it yet. It is amazing how far Dorico team have come with it in only a few years, though. You mean the diddles are too closed or open? Have you tried digging into the playback preferences and all that to possibly make it so the rhythms are played straight?
@shaanthakker9995
4 жыл бұрын
Eric Peel Music yep. Spent hours with it. I found a few workarounds but it just takes more time. I think in a few months it’ll be much better given how far they’ve come so far. Anyways, love your stuff and keep it up! When it’s ready I hope you’ll join the dorico community too!
@EricPeelMusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@shaanthakker9995 Just keep giving them feedback, because they actually do respond to it. Currently I'm editing MIDI/audio in Logic Pro and then writing the sheet music afterwards in Sibelius. The Logic part is a lot of fun because I have unlimited control of the sound and I don't need to worry about the notation. And the sheet music part only takes me 1-3 days, even with all the text and graphics I add, because I don't need to worry about playback. I'm pretty happy with my current setup, but I'll join the Dorico community once I can do everything I need/want and the workflow is at the same speed or faster.
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