A correction I want to point out at 2:13 you don't actually have to swirl for the 20% EM share all Sucrose has to do is hit an enemy with E or Q. The other passive for 50 EM does indeed require swirl.
@acardoza1234
2 жыл бұрын
Great catch, this is a big clarification!
@peterpresto9516
2 жыл бұрын
a very important mistake made indeed
@weiminzhao930
2 жыл бұрын
It is unconditional, which means that Sucrose might be better used in against Slims, Cub bosses, electric birds and anything with perminant element infusion on themselves.
@Xidane007
2 жыл бұрын
Reason why she will get even better with dendro despite not being able to swirl.
@bletwort2920
2 жыл бұрын
I was mistaken too. The other day I hit an Anemo slime with Zhongli’s pillar then used Sucrose’s Skill to farm particles for my Xiao and all my party members got the buff icon and had their EM increased. This made me really confused as there was no other element I thought she swirled Geo which shouldn’t be possible.
@brodericksiz625
2 жыл бұрын
As a Sucrose connoisseur, I'd like to point out that, while it is true that infusing her burst is harder than with Kazuha, you can learn to pretty consistently proc the infusion by learning the spacing at which you need to be from the affected enemy while casting her Q. Yes, I will agree that it's not nearly as comfortable as Kazuha's burst, but to say that you'll never proc the infusion consistently is an overexaggeration. I can proc the infusion quite consistently, it's just a matter of practice.
@aliounethiaw1443
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. And we can infuse her burst using xinyan's burst (which apply pyro in ourselves) for a ganyu team
@xerikl
2 жыл бұрын
I actually have trouble getting the right element to absorb with Kazuha but that's probably because Sucrose is with Xiangling and pyro has high priority so always works and Kazuha is with Ayaka and cryo has the lowest priority
@dinonuggs7796
2 жыл бұрын
Yk I have kazuha and much rather prefer him but I also do agree w u🙂👍🏽
@mia_2043
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Moreover on teams where you have a character that can self infuse like Bennett/Beidou infusing that respective element is pretty free because you can dash into the center and infuse with your own body
@snapedu9166
2 жыл бұрын
I am also a sucrose main and I want to point out her c6 is not important so u don't need to activately try to use it /think of it like hu Tao a1 passive it's a nice dmg bump not a must that u build your team around it 😁
@daguenh857
2 жыл бұрын
17:14 Tenten: "There are a lot of characters now who don't use elemental mastery" Also Tenten in 1 month: *SO ABOUT DENDRO REACTIONS*
@mr_noice_guy
2 жыл бұрын
xiangling's for sure the best anemo support in the game
@lolmaster5162
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Bones2712
Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget Qiqi (the best DPS).Who can one-shot Azhdaha
@fftyufftyu7457
6 ай бұрын
😂
@idkatthispoint-s9s
2 ай бұрын
Y'all have NOT seen Dehya smh. Solos everything. Pyro Archon who??
@diversity6681
2 жыл бұрын
Tenten : some may argue that kazuha is not only more fun to use but also better in the overworld but this video is sopposed to be focused on the genshin impact meta Also Tenten : proceed to compare between sucrose fluffy ears and kazuha's cool design
@hatakekakashi3228
2 жыл бұрын
he means abyss floor 12 lol
@ame5851
2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@littleboss2006
2 жыл бұрын
Just for a brief moment
@reisen9584
2 жыл бұрын
I remember that one ayaka who used freeze WITHOUT a hydro, but sucrose only. That is a not your average genshin player definately.
@kittybitten2752
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah because that ayaka got hit on purpose to get hydro applied then infused it with sucrose burst
@hemachandranv7785
2 жыл бұрын
I am sry if I offend you, as Kittybitten told if it was kazuha got hit and got wet then his burst is hydro infused. So cutting the role of switching to ayaka and following the eye of sucrose burst. But I love both of them and i am too reliant on them.
@reisen9584
2 жыл бұрын
@@hemachandranv7785 the hell dude, I WATCHED the video. So I know that it is sucrose's burst was the one who apply hydro. tenten literally explained it. I aint deaf nor blind. But the fact doesnt change that they actually manage to do it without a hydro char is simply amazing. If you think otherwise, then we're not playing the same game. Cya~
@hemachandranv7785
2 жыл бұрын
@@reisen9584 I'm sorry
@TheRealTact
Жыл бұрын
@@reisen9584 they said sorry
@Blade.5786
2 жыл бұрын
"Who is the best Anemo support?" Let me answer your question with another question: "Wouldn't gliding be faster?"
The video clearly demonstrates that kazuha is overall better tho.
@fr3941
2 жыл бұрын
@@johanliebert9110 no
@insidious6068
2 жыл бұрын
8:12 Zajef showed that you CAN double swirl with just Kazuha's skill. His burst is not NEEDED, but it makes double swirling easier.
@RaGiAn87
2 жыл бұрын
What? Im pretty sure I watched the same video and he never said that
@insidious6068
2 жыл бұрын
@@RaGiAn87 yes he did. 6:27 on his Kazuha video.
@insidious6068
2 жыл бұрын
@@RaGiAn87 it shows international where using Kazuha's skill alone is enough to double swirl.
@HotPepperLala
2 жыл бұрын
@@insidious6068 Isn't that just International and not other teams?
@RaGiAn87
2 жыл бұрын
@@insidious6068 oh the single target one. That basically never applies unless you are fighting a boss but yeah I guess
@catsouplover7745
2 жыл бұрын
Next showdown 100% has to be ayato vs childe, they are very similar and both fill more or less the same role, similar to kazuha and sucrose.
@odnt5529
2 жыл бұрын
Childe >
@rowrow875
2 жыл бұрын
Ayato sucks lmao
@EGG-gj1dt
2 жыл бұрын
@@odnt5529 pretty much
@diogoschneider2479
2 жыл бұрын
Childe is better for F2P while Ayato is better for whales and mono hydro (also Ayato is better in taser and as hyper carry) Tho Childe is the king of International team and has better synergy with Kazuha, Bennet and Xiangling due to having easier setup and also a big nuke in his burst, while Ayato is just consistent damage
@mia_2043
2 жыл бұрын
Childe >>> for Vape, but Ayato is the only Hydro character that's decentish at Vape Freeze and Taser so his value is more versatility than power in a single team.
@jusjosef2801
2 жыл бұрын
1:52 Wrong. If Kazuha swirls Hydro, everyone in your team gets Hydro DMG% Bonus. This allows Kazuha to fit into weird team like Pyro etc.
@aliounethiaw1443
2 жыл бұрын
15:29 this constellation is very useful in mono element teams. That allows he to compete with kazuha in supporting mono element teams
@Scythra
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, using like 3 cryo supports/dps with sucrose C6, its more consistent to infuse her burst due to the sheer amount of E and Q skills you have. But sucrose burst is very short, so the buff window is once in a long while. While Kazuha can have 100% uptime on E-DMG bonus.
@__Newones
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scythra isn't c2 sucrose has the same 8s duration as kazuha burst?
@maddasher8471
2 жыл бұрын
Then again in mono teams em is useless so she still can't utilize her full kit properly.
@Nowaylarry
2 жыл бұрын
@@maddasher8471 In most cases. There are exceptions such as enemies that generate their own elemental auras (slimes, some shields and some bosses). Example, using mono pyro on current floor 11. TM self infuses electro so the EM buffing would benefit the overload damage. It isn't a big deal but it is something. I actually made use of that on my catalyst only. Sucrose's skill and burst were able to consistently make all of Klee's mines hit the TM and the overload damage was not negligible. Granted this was on a challenge account with clearly off meta comps.
@bigdongzhong8660
2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone point that out. Should been obvious but people still praise Kazuha saying that he "unlocks" mono element but C6 Sucrose was doing that for a long time bro...
@icenmeteor3489
2 жыл бұрын
Sucrose stonks rising with the new Dendro reactions, C2 Kazuha's too.
@chronopolize_jp
2 жыл бұрын
Sucrose is absolutely nuts when buffing a single amp carry. with ttds, EM share, and vv shred.
@Nowaylarry
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly you can't really go wrong with either of them. Even if you stop using Sucrose as a buffer due to getting Kazoozoo, since she is still the better team driver for certain comps, she will always have solid use cases. That and having two anemo buffers for abyss isn't a bad thing. I can see the potential for dendro being added to some existing taser comps where an anemo driver would still be appreciated as well. Kazuha is over all better than Sucrose but Sucrose is still good enough to maintain a meta presence for the foreseeable future.
@digivagrant
2 жыл бұрын
Which is Better for taser team? ie Beisoi - Kokomi - Fischl - ??
@johanliebert9110
2 жыл бұрын
@@digivagrant kazuha
@yummykebab6711
2 жыл бұрын
@@digivagrant sucrose definitely, EM is valuable for taser
@elknolasshrineofraja3966
2 жыл бұрын
🌸😹It is so that both are great with respect to what they do and thus to compare them with the intent of pursuing who is the best, is like comparing apples and oranges😹🌸
@thouartseraph
2 жыл бұрын
no.
@elknolasshrineofraja3966
2 жыл бұрын
@@thouartseraph 🌸😹Yes😹🌸
@helm759
2 жыл бұрын
@@thouartseraph Do you even have Sucrose or Kazuha?
@denpaonice1442
2 жыл бұрын
Did not know anemo traveller prioritized cryo over the other elements. As someone who runs double cryo/anemo, Ayaka,Shenhe,Kazuha,Jean an anemo infusion grouper that prioritizes cryo to consistently take advantage of shenhe quills and use a cryo goblet is at the top of my list of characters I want now. I was thinking the other day that they should make a character like that. Might have to experiment with traveler for fun now.
@rauladriaham2508
2 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer Sucrose infinity times more, but both are excellent units and it is obvious that a 5* HAS to perform better than a 4* (otherwise no money for Hoyo), but just don't be an asshole and undermine one character or the other(especially to Sucrose since Kazuha mains won't shut up about their "Messiah").
@snapedu9166
2 жыл бұрын
If her ascending stat is em that will be enough for me ☹️
@Internextion
2 жыл бұрын
@@snapedu9166 a lot of 4* have stats that just dont match them and idk why mihoyo does it lmao
@hatakekakashi3228
2 жыл бұрын
I've saw only Kazuha slanders because of Sucrose's existence ever since 1.6 Stop hating on Kazuha, thanks
@helm759
2 жыл бұрын
I too prefer Sucrose (and yes I have Kazuha)
@kingdoom5022
2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't perform better than sucrose though , also fischl is much better than yae miko which is a 5 star so meh
@zarfies23
Жыл бұрын
I wish this was done during Dendro
@iamspencerx
2 жыл бұрын
2:00 If you have Xingqiu and Hutao, and swirl hydro with Kazuha, all your team (Xingqiu, Hutao, Kazuha and an eventual 4th member) would get their hydro damage bonus buffed, not only Xingqiu like the video states
@Yor-Yor-Yor
2 жыл бұрын
i think he meant it will only be useful for xingqiu
@zolombox1779
2 жыл бұрын
I use Prototype Amber on my Sucrose so I don't have to bring a healer. If you posses at least a little bit of skill and don't get hit every second it's more than enough to heal the party and you still get all the sucrose EM buffs and VV shred. I'll probably use it on Kusanali in the future too Suske.
@AlexandreFerreiras
2 жыл бұрын
Plus the fact that with Prototype Amber, we can get some crit value more than having to roll for ER stats, it's my favorite weapon on Sucrose too, too OP in comps that aren't EM reliant!
@fallenintodarkness9702
2 жыл бұрын
But sacrificial brings about 200 extra EM
@hazxiii9657
2 жыл бұрын
I might get called out SkillIssue and everything, but I think one of the reason why people think sucrose is abit hard is that she doesnt really have any interruption resistance in comparison to Kazuha when casting their skills. (if you played Kazuha before, you'll definetely feel you dont get interrupted as easily)
@ame5851
2 жыл бұрын
Skill issue, jUsT dOdGe bRO
@actualgarbage8549
2 жыл бұрын
Nah its her aim when using e it sucks but its mostly genshins fault
@SaikeeKonosukeLuc
2 жыл бұрын
To sum up we're looking at C6 Sucrose vs C0 Kazuha 20% Dmg , 35 % Reaction dmg , 48% ATK for 10s vs 30-40% pure damage bonus To conclude. Sucrose and Kazuha work on PHEC priority when doing absorption. Sucrose needs 200% ER to provide her team with the damage bonus Kazuha can provide 40% dmg by focusing on 900-1000EM or , 30% dmg which enable more reaction with his burst following PHEC In a team that focus on Reaction dmg such as Hu tao with Crimson Witch. Sucrose will provide 55% Dmg bonus, 48% ATK. This can heavily outdps a kazuha team IF the applicator is not a sub-dps such as Kokom or if the sub-dps don't provide substantial dps. Furthermore, Sucrose Burst however has a delay interval which makes it hard to follow PHEC. HOWEVER, a Kazuha team can provide easier consistency to PHEC by swirling every element easily with shorter icd on burst and longer duration on his burst which allows for more reactions and absorption and thus dmg bonus based on absorption. This means that Kazuha can buff his team made up of different element easier so if we to compare: Hu Tao + Yelan + Sucrose < Hu Tao + Yelan + Kazuha Hu Tao + 20% dmg , 35% Reaction dmg, 48% ATK < Hu tao +40% dmg , Yelan + 40% dmg Sucrose 'may' buff yelan dmg but it's very unlike to occur under PHEC
@khalxl_otl
2 жыл бұрын
"infusing sucrose's burst w/the right element is inconsistent" idk but that sounds like a skill issue to me
@reedsad4652
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and he talkin about a skill issue over meta now?
@mintsugas
2 жыл бұрын
Nah it’s valid criticism
@reedsad4652
2 жыл бұрын
@@mintsugas i do understand when you criticise some1 who sux at basket ball but its not a valid criticism if you mean the game itself suck lmao
@greyratt9690
2 жыл бұрын
One thing is that Sucrose is easily accessible since she is a 4* character and Kazuha is not. So meanwhile you will be comparing C6 Sucrose with C0 Kazuha but sometimes it's will be C0 Sucrose and Qiqi.
@brliron6538
2 жыл бұрын
Note that almost everything he said applies to C0 Sucrose, so this video is more like a C0 Sucrose vs C0 Kazuha, and yes, one of them is obviously more accessible.
@xtranathor8143
2 жыл бұрын
So 5* Sucrose really is a 5*! I think Sucrose is still very good, but the fact that Kazuha's skill and burst are centered on him really makes such a difference to ease of play. Plus, giving him a sac sword and double plunging is really satisfying!
@cynt4416
2 жыл бұрын
Sucrose is better in number and being more versatile, Kazuha is better in ease of play. Here is the problem. Most people underestimate how valuable "ease of play" is when the game is over 2 years old at this point and damage being none issue. Easy to play character scale to late game more than those with just better number.
@johanliebert9110
2 жыл бұрын
@@cynt4416 kazuha is better in number most of the time. Sucrose is easier to grt number.
@cynt4416
2 жыл бұрын
@@johanliebert9110 It's hard to beat 4 layer of buff, which mean 4 layer of multiplicative.
I love how his profile picture is Venti, but he wasn;t even mentioned among the best anemo supports, lol
@raycigar6356
2 жыл бұрын
Im playing this game since first Update and I'm stuck with C4 Sucrose like half a year already....i even skipped kazuhas first Banner. Now I'm just like whatever XD let's bring this kazuha home, the odds are just more favorable to get him than waiting another year for more Sucrose Constellations....
@f4llenleaves
2 жыл бұрын
Took me more than a year to c6 sucrose. Heck, I c2'd kazuha before that
@Phoenix-il5hc
2 жыл бұрын
Using sucrose since when I dont have either venti or kazuha in multiple teams with multiple characters or since patch 1.2. I love her elf ears and nerdy girl aestheic but man.. I hate playing her sometimes, so she is benched for me as i use venti(freeze) and kazuha(rest). For me I think kazuha personal offield dmg in aoe scenario, much superior grouping, and his versatility really makes him just a better unit for me. Also he is fun to play and also have much smoother gameplay and kit design. Altough i admit sucrose is very strong unit and "the buffing" difference is not that much.
@hatakekakashi3228
2 жыл бұрын
it's dog ears...
@Phoenix-il5hc
2 жыл бұрын
@@hatakekakashi3228 dk man .. but i do like those..
@ame5851
2 жыл бұрын
@@Phoenix-il5hc same
@cybergamer__
2 жыл бұрын
What are your opinions on Venti?
@Phoenix-il5hc
2 жыл бұрын
@@cybergamer__ venti teams are very niche these days tbh .. mostly two team which are Ayaka and ganyu team.. i play Ayaka ganyu freeze and i like him there more than kazuha coz 15 energy refund actually really helpful and i don't need more DMG.. i just need smoother rotation in that team.. Other than that venti is just a tech in option in those type of content where you face wave after wave (like one event we have a month ago) .. you can pair him with raiden, ayato,ganyu ets in mob floors and he work pretty well.
@insidious6068
2 жыл бұрын
1:48 ALL members of your team get the elemental damage buff, not just the characters of that elemental type. While it does nothing for thr character, Hu Tao will still get Hydro dmg bonus if Kazuha swirled Hydro and Xingqiu will still get Pyro dmg bonus if Kazuha swirls Pyro.
@ranchangu
2 жыл бұрын
It's important for Kazuha himself, he has elemental damage infusion on his Skill and Burst.
@snapedu9166
2 жыл бұрын
Yes that is true but sadly not relivent unless ur running ayaka and c6 Benny in a team then ayaya can do big pyro CA
@pixelfrog3d548
2 жыл бұрын
Yes but it deos nothing for them, thats the point and is clearly what he meant
@insidious6068
2 жыл бұрын
@@ranchangu I agree that it's important for Kazuha. I didn't really talk about Kazuha self-buffing since I thought that was self-explanatory.
@insidious6068
2 жыл бұрын
@@pixelfrog3d548 It's still misleading to say what tenten said. It would imply that Kazuha in a mono-element team (say mono pyro) wouldn't get the damage buff even though he (an anemo character) would.
@asha3
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I think Kazuha is still worth the time (or money) invested on him even when Sucrose can do just about as much as him in terms of utility and damage buff. As a low spender, I am not against pulling for characters that requires high investment, since it gives me something to look forward to long-term. Resource management is part what makes Genshin endgame fun, imo. With that said, I prefer Kazuha over Sucrose because of the added playstyle and utility brought by his constellations. He is a character that you can look forward to building and using (and collect constellation) for a long time. I had him C0 for a year and I recently saved enough to get him to C2. The cool down reset and EM buff brought something new to my team composition and rotation that I'm actually looking forward to clearing abyss again. However, he is still not a must pull, especially if you don't care at all for his lore, personality, and playstyle. And I agree that no one should be spending any money on this game unless they truly have disposable income.
@SuperDZONI96
2 жыл бұрын
Dude i got lucky as a f2p and got 3 kazuhas in 20 wishes and he made the game so easy i cant even get to my dps most of the time
@barddz4646
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperDZONI96 WHAT 3 IN 20 WISHES??? howww
@randydator4848
2 жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, TenTen has released a new video explaining double swirl
@Soundwave1900
2 жыл бұрын
8:55 that's not what Zajef said though. Have you counted in the em sucrose gives to childe's burst? Between the ttds buff giving your team's main carry huge boost and childe's burst vape being a big part of his overall damage and him already having some hydro damage bonus from other sources, ascension included, I wouldn't be so sure about this statement.
@pan_lonheyy1046
2 жыл бұрын
The keywords are you "can" overtake sucrose "if" you double swirl Most of the vape teams that sucrose is more recomended in them are teams that double swirling with kazuha is inconsistant/rng for example ayato national or the og national ( xinqiue bennet xl ) with kazuha Zajef also admits that kazuha is an upgrade to sucrose in a childe national
@Nowaylarry
2 жыл бұрын
Tenten is right in a general way but realistically who is better will vary by team comp and artifact quality. Weapon choices can also make small differences in who is preferred. Since all stats have some degree of diminishing returns, what buffs you want is going to somewhat depend. If your Hu Tao is running an HP sands due to not having a good EM one for her, Sucrose's EM buffing may matter more than Kazoozoo's elemental damage buff, as an example (Hu Tao already gets a massive amount of pyro damage bonus from her kit).
@Soundwave1900
2 жыл бұрын
@@pan_lonheyy1046 In his kazuha prerelease videos he implied Sucrose gives more damage even if they both double swirl. Consistency is a different matter, of course, but i don't think it's that hard to consistently double swirl with kazoo using the rotations he gave us.
@zackyman3639
2 жыл бұрын
Sucrose buffs xiangling more because of ttds and xiangling fully utilizes the em in most hits whereas kazuha benefits childe more as he cant use em to buff charged attacks and autos but he can use the dmg bonus to do so as well as his burst. Most of the time xiangling contributes slightly more overall team dps so sucrose buffs the team more but kazuhas personal swirl dps especially in aoe is much higher so hes usually better than sucrose for the team. Even then the difference is super minimal, and sucrose can end up being better depending on if ur xiangling is much more invested than ur childe and kazuha can become even more valueable if ur childe is a lot more invested than xiangling
@quangamng
2 жыл бұрын
@@Soundwave1900 he didn't said that ,he said Sucrose give more dmg if they DON'T double swirl
@HSRFirefly
2 жыл бұрын
I think it is also important to say on when Iron Sting is better than Favge. The scenarios are quite specific. 1) When kazuha is in a team together with Raiden as his ER requirement there drops to almost 0 ER roll needed. 2) An Ayaka freeze team that has 2nd cryo on Favge already as this makes the ER requirement to be around 130%. Outside of these teams then Favge is better (unless ofc u have freedom sworn)
@insaecticides
2 жыл бұрын
I think you should've done this video after 3.0 with the dendro reactions.
@kadatheklund2904
2 жыл бұрын
They are pretty much similar, i would say that Kazuha is slightly better overall, but theres 2 reasons that makes Kazuha stronger: 1 - Consistency: Kazuha can do his stuff with more consistency than sucrose, and imo meta is not about max potential, but instead consistency of finishing abyss under the time. 2 - Non Veteran Players: Ok i know this is not a pretty good argument for everyone, but for accounts who misses some characters Kazuha can make some weaker units/teams perform better, one personal example was the fact i had to run mono pyro Diluc during 2.0 because i missed Xingqiu, but kazuha helped me, that can be true for other teams like Freeze Kaeya/Rosaria.
@ame5851
2 жыл бұрын
On melt/vap/ec sucrose > kazuha. On non reactions and freeze sucrose < kazuha. Boosting dps Sucrose c0 ttds > Kazuha c0, Boosting dps Sucrose c6 < Kazuha c2 (small gap)
@tristanmanalo6252
2 жыл бұрын
They are not similar. They are not the same. EM buffer is not the same with Elemantal dmg bonus buffer
@kadatheklund2904
2 жыл бұрын
@@tristanmanalo6252 when i mean similar im speaking about the results they produce overall.
@cynt4416
2 жыл бұрын
1. What kind of consistency you are talking about? Grouping? I agee. But double swirling for national team? nah. 2. "weaker" team doens't mean less or more investment. National team, or even soup team is as free as you can get. And Sucrose is better at that. Xingqui, Fishl and Xiangling are all absolutely free as long as you do the event without having to roll even once.
@kadatheklund2904
2 жыл бұрын
@@cynt4416 the problem with national team is that it requires 4 out of the top 5 characters in genshin and you need 2 teams.for the abyss, this is a problem for non whales/new players, as you can read the team examples i gave earlier, and even for veteran players the national team is kinda hard to build because most meta teams (except freeze) needs at least one of those 3 characters.
@insar21
2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the most important things to repeat regularly is that there is NO CONTENT in the game that requires Kazuha's c2 (or any other constellations) and this is the main reason why players should avoid pulling for constellations. Pure damage constellations have no real value in this game. But constellations that give convenience or new opportunities are much more interesting. For example, for Kazuha, the first constellation is more interesting than the second (even so, imo it's not interesting enough to spend money on it) As for Kazuha himself, I personally used Sucrose almost always before getting Kazuha. Now, for me, he is a permanent member of the group when traveling around Teyvat. The convenience he provides are indescribable.
@icekyuu
2 жыл бұрын
There is no content that requires 5-star characters or 5-star weapons either, but people got to use their primogems for something. Nevertheless I agree that more characters is generally better than more constellations...up to a point.
@zie233
2 жыл бұрын
Eh look at Raiden and Yelan
@Chosty94
2 жыл бұрын
For the exact same reason that there's no hard content is why I pulled for Kazuha C2. I don't want new characters that takes literally months to build because of the awful artifacts system drop rates. I prefer to make my enjoyable characters stronger and comfy, Kazuha C1 and C2 makes him way more comfy to play for me, next I'll snipe for Shenhe C2 because I want her extra seconds for her ult.
@insar21
2 жыл бұрын
@@icekyuu I agree, my point is just that you should spend on what you want because it has no real impact on closing the hardest content. I'm just trying to warn players that trying to make the team stronger and stronger in the end you will be disappointed, from the pointlessness of the time spent, when you could enjoy playing for different characters.
@insar21
2 жыл бұрын
@@zie233 I didn't understand you very well. Are you saying that they have constellations without which it is impossible to close the most difficult content in this game? ^^'
@icekyuu
2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis 1010. One major thing missing is the "comfort" aspect for both characters, which is that Kazuha generally has higher uptime on his E and Q especially if Sucrose is running TTDS. In a good run this doesn't matter if you are adept with Sucrose, but in scuffed runs or in new situations Kazuha is a much more flexible and reliable character. Also, Sucrose HP is so low, she dies easily.
@seipme
2 жыл бұрын
We are back again at this comparison huh
@charms7232
2 жыл бұрын
Sucrose and her teammates can force the infusion by walking on top of her burst while affected by any of the elements, the same way Kazuha can apply Pyro with Bennett Burst. Just sucks that applying the other elements to self is so limited compared to Bennett burst. Cryo: Diona applies Cryo on shield creation, and every time the player swaps to another character while the shield is still up. Hydro: Xingqiu, Kokomi and Barbara all apply hydro to self on cast of their Elemental Skills, but only Barbara can apply wet multiple times with the same Elemental Skill over its duration. Electro: Beidou applies electro to herself when pressing/holding her Elemental Skill. Pyro: Bennett, Xinyan and Thoma. Xinyan shield can apply pyro on cast and every time the player swaps to other characters (same as Diona). Everyone should already know how Bennett works. Thoma applies pyro to self on shield creation, but this applies to ONLY Thoma, swapping characters won't apply pyro and the Burst shield only gives pyro when Thoma is the active character. When are we going to get more supports with cleanse effects for Electro and Hydro?
@htsaul1569
2 жыл бұрын
I run a lot C6 Sucrose + Xiangling + Xingqiu + Bennett and for me I can infuse Sucrose's ult pretty consistent with Pyro so my Xiangling can snapshot it. I just do the following rotation: Sucrose burst + Bennett E in the burst + Q + Xiangling QE+ Sucrose E + Xingqiu + QE + Sucrose AA.
@reedsad4652
2 жыл бұрын
Much easier you bennet Q then throw your succrose bottle and its automatically infuses the ult same like sunfire jean
@iqbalhardito3020
2 жыл бұрын
Bcs you apply a lot of pyro in international team. Both your enemy and yourself on bennett buff.
@akarinch
2 жыл бұрын
Meta wise Kazuha C0 is about the same with Sucrose but qol wise he offers a lot
@vht1
2 жыл бұрын
the upcoming dendro reactions are EM focused as a result sucrose will be even stronger than she is now. kazuha c2 cant compete
@helm759
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see why people compare these two. They both support in different ways
@michaelk1982
2 жыл бұрын
They support the same teams in different ways so it's easy to compare them
@xerikl
2 жыл бұрын
It's actually incorrect that Kazuha only buffs the party member who's element he swirls. He actually gives the element damage bonus to all party members, it's just the other party members can't make use of the buff
@thebrigade7684
2 жыл бұрын
I HECKING love giving my Xiangling hydro damage bonus BatChest
@ranchangu
2 жыл бұрын
Kazuha uses the buff >.>
@xerikl
2 жыл бұрын
@@ranchangu yes he does, his skill attack will have absorbed the element and thus buffed himself for that element on the way down
@ranchangu
2 жыл бұрын
@@xerikl mhm. if you can set it up for the plunge to vape or melt the number can go quite high which is fun. more easy is to just let the burst's pyro damage vape. why i love having some crit/atk in my substats where i can afford it
@Sun_Flowerr04
2 жыл бұрын
@@thebrigade7684 🤣
@shablagoo682
2 жыл бұрын
Just to point out because the video doesnt say this, but a c0 Sucrose is as good and sometimes better then c0 Kazuha. Just let that sink in, when considering how good Sucrose is.
@johanliebert9110
2 жыл бұрын
Kazuha is better overall.
@SavedByGracePH
2 жыл бұрын
1:39 Idk if anyone has commented about this alrdy, but I just wanted to correct about Kazuha's buff. All party members receive buffs when u swirl. Read the description and try it urselves too 😊
@tetsuclaw
2 жыл бұрын
Sucrose still does a better job buffing my taser comp (Yae Miko, Kokomi, Fischl, Sucrose) than what my Kazuha can do. He is c0 while Sucrose c6 and as for stats both lv90, Sucrose 904 EM, Kazuha 947 EM. I see stronger damage from my characters with Sucrose than I do with Kazua but that is likely due to Yae's EM passive skill kicking in. Also the amount of damage Sucrose can do with her double swirls is insane. In AoE situations when you swirl it applies that swirl element to all nearby enemies. Now if you swirl say hydro and electro together Sucrose then triggers electro charged reaction off her EM and it hits really hard. From my own testing one E on Sucrose was about 42k damage in AoE. 3.5k of it was base damage of her skill and the rest was the swirls and electro charged hits. She can do that kind of damage AND she can buff the party with a strong buff AND shred resists with 4 set VV. She is downright broken strong. Though one thing is for sure, to me she is far cuter than Kazuha......
@oreasan
2 жыл бұрын
link me the sucrose bodypillow used for this vid
@weghaarmanda9272
2 жыл бұрын
Almost everyone will say that kazuha is better after watching your vid, not good 1010, you're still biased. I'm not sure with "kazuha will always outperform sucrose if you do double swirl" especially in vape/melt team, especially if suc also do double swirl bcos sometimes megabuff (vv shred, EM and atk) your sole carry is more important than buff your other teammate (just xtra dmg bonus vs suc since she can also double swirl). In childe international, em also buff vaped childe Q really hard bcs he doesn't have any em usually. Give me some link your calculation 1010 🤔 Also it's just skill issue if you can't infuse suc Q and her c6 is not as useless as you think if you can play her well. Why you put skill issue in meta analysis lol.
@reedsad4652
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I dont know why people having hard time infusing her ult. Its just literally a point and click. i.e Raiden / or any carry with bennet, apply element throw succrose bottle wait for butterfly flap then boom infused before you bump that bennet ult so that the pyro wont be unfused. Very2 biased indeed. That c6 aint useless.
@frostykey4591
2 жыл бұрын
Buffing the entire team is still much better for overall DMG unless you not build well your sub dps/support
@asrar_b
2 жыл бұрын
Sucrose is best girl, she can ATK, enable, buff and heal. I have an invested Sucrose but rolled on kazuha this time cause I lost on his first banner. Kazuha buff even in Raiden team is only 10k more than my C6 Sucrose but the team have smoother rotation. Kazuha is easier to use than Sucrose but Sucrose value is much higher for my account as I don’t have Childe for international and Gouba swirl is easier than double swirl Ayato/Xiangling than double swirl with kazuha.
@Introspacious
2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion i like Kazuha more because i prefer elemental dmg than em bonus and atk and also his playstyle
@chalamasow5506
2 жыл бұрын
To segue from what the video is about, can we just all appreciate that Childe charged atk to skill moment at 5:52? That is pretty hard to do and yet Ten manages to do his rotation very smoothly right after
@BellBOYd128
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize I was an international player until I got Kazuha. But my favorite team to run is such jank, I love it. Buffs go brrrrr. Rosaria/Kazuha/Diona/Bennett. Who needs a DPS. But to be fair, I’ve hit 212K Bennett Q when he’s only working with 1600 ATK and 90 CDMG on this team.
@lokrj
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly after getting Kazuha on his rerun, i can see why people say that their gap is not that huge. Like i would much prefer using Sucrose as the driver in a taser comp, and national comp (don't have Childe so it feels kinda awkward slotting in Kazuha) , though I do use Kazuha in a taser team if Raiden is the the onfield carry. Everything else I just use Kazuha (Raiden hyper, Ayaka Freeze, etc.) Though one thing for sure though, unlike Sucrose, I use Kazuha in almost all of my dailies, he's such a great QoL upgrade to my account.
@littleswansplaygrownd6817
2 жыл бұрын
ngl, dude just sweeps through daily mobs and also sucks in the drops after the fight. such a timesaver. also got a mid glide jump that helps somewhat
@Vonmoonlight
2 жыл бұрын
You don't really tase with Kazuha The point of Taser Is to have Fischl, Beidou XingQiu range elements to apply on them, causing Electro charged Then Sucrose job is to group them up and swirl all the elements against each other when they closely packed and continuing to swirl more dmg out while having the constell to reduce her E Skill to group faster for more swirl, essentially quadratic scaling like Venti Kazuha can't fulfil that level of grouping frequency, while it does swirl enemies with his Burst, after his E grouping ends, most enemies will end up dispersing away, resulting swirling only each individual on its own, not able to fulfil that quadratic scaling concept Kazuha is better off with melt / vape / freeze / mono teams Generally anything that requires that momentary ease of grouping that will lead to fast damage output or conditional grouping into a setup
@dioblo78
2 жыл бұрын
@@Vonmoonlight My friend, may I take some time of your day in order to tell you about the glory that is Thundering Fury Kazuha? It's not nearly as great as Sucrose tazer because it only truly shines in AoE, but it's probably the most fun I've had playing Kazuha so far.
@Internextion
2 жыл бұрын
@@Vonmoonlight taser has lost all meaning at this point. kazuha worse as a driver but if you have hydro or electro driver then kazuha better
@zackyman3639
2 жыл бұрын
@@Internextion at this point people just use taser to mean any team that uses electro charged
@tomatozombie135
2 жыл бұрын
me who accidentally got c2 kazuha watching tenten talk about elemental mastery: *hmm interesting*
@g-1050
2 жыл бұрын
Ignores Hakushin Ring again.
@ciminot1222
2 жыл бұрын
The only issue I have with sucrose is her targeting, there'll be a group of enemies with one enemies slightly to the side of them... She'll turn and target the one instead of the group. Shell also pop her burst to the side of the enemies 😑 maybe I'm doing something wrong, pity because I really like her character but she's so slow and clunky for me
@paolocarreon8329
2 жыл бұрын
that is actually easy to fix by practicing. a lot of characters in Genshin has auto target issues, proper positioning and practice practice practice and you'll learn how to use them comfortably. If you think she feels slow, don't worry, just dash after clicking her E or Q, it significantly reduces her on-field time if used as a support and speeds up CC for on-field driver Sucrose.
@buenafejohnmarcoc.3105
2 жыл бұрын
lucky me.. Got 3 kazuhas in just 20 pull
@kyori75
2 жыл бұрын
"Players: mummy, tenten korkor said kazuha c2 is good, so I swiped your card to get a c2 kazuha. " lol
@plum_pudding176
2 жыл бұрын
Sucrose can run a couple other weapons besides just thrilling tales or sacrificial fragments although imo I don’t know who else can run SF so I have her running it (Copium incoming 😂) -widsith (driver sucrose, excellent RNG em buff) -oathsworn eye (48% er bonus after using skill for fast burst) -hakushin ring (taser, can give 20% elemental buff when she triggers electro swirl or electro charge at R5) -favonius codex (give her some crit substats to make her a battery) -prototype amber(makes her less squishy, energy and health regen when she bursts) -technically mappa mare (EM and elemental damage bonus for taser driver) but you’d probably be better off crafting the other catalysts She feels a lot more flexible for builds and roles in the team where most people agree you should be running favonius sword Kazuha for burst spam or sac sword for skill spam (rip xingqiu)
@joakinsane
3 ай бұрын
I love sucrose she made me hit 100k max na with arlecchino and yelan's burst does 20k per rain sword with her
@abdelhamidsteat2478
Жыл бұрын
Everytime i see one of your videos ... I say our boy is back , unfortunately it's just an old video 💔
@nawu2024
2 жыл бұрын
As always, ty for the guide
@sunwhenmoondown
9 ай бұрын
dude explain so well thank u❤
@Abc-qq9be
2 жыл бұрын
amazing video as always, so well explained and fun, also tenten why the traveler have a different elemental priority absortion!? im so curious!!
@tristanmanalo6252
2 жыл бұрын
Because they are the traveller, the MC. They defy the basic principles of Teyvat 😅😅😅
@ravenaloro1767
2 жыл бұрын
going for 5* c2 just to outbuff sucrose is dumb idea.
@mintsugas
2 жыл бұрын
People always forget how much QOL Kazuha provides and when it comes to gameplay some people just vastly prefer Kazuha’s over hers
@cynt4416
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Even tho number speaking, Kazuha is a just a side grade to Sucrose, but he's much easier to play, which is more important when you can easily 36 stars Abyss already.
@kaga.mine.
2 жыл бұрын
idc if sucrose is 10x better, she's boring as shit for me
@ancy1205
2 жыл бұрын
@@kaga.mine. Anyone in support role are boring. Kazuha include. Just E Q whenever. Sukokomon tho, are fun as heck. So hard to play and satisfy to pull off when you see the triple colors number pop up all over in the middle of up ward storm wind. It sure look like Ragnarok.
@frequent_blue2071
2 жыл бұрын
honestly, just get kazuha if you care about meta even if u have sucrose venti. you will not regret it.
@cometed445
2 жыл бұрын
eh. depends on your account and characters to be honest
@pyronado4320
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot about kazuha c6 that turns him into expensive sucrose 🤣
@bigd2555
2 жыл бұрын
Kazuha C6 became budget heizou
@kaga.mine.
2 жыл бұрын
@@bigd2555 how is that budget, more like premium heizou
@henrique9636
2 жыл бұрын
If you have freedom sworn, does that push kazuha ahead of sucrose by a significant amount?
@Yorforger59
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure but it does give 20% atk to your party
@noctisarcanus7894
2 жыл бұрын
For me is the crowd control that makes Kazuha invaluable in my team comps. There's also how easy is to double vape with him compared to Sucrose and the fact that you always have 100% control over where his E and especially his Q land on the battlefield while Sucrose skills can land all over the place. Also his elemental infusions are WAY more consistent. Kazuha is way better than Sucrose IMFHO.
@musicaddict9058
2 жыл бұрын
But kazuha's crowd control isn't even that useful in many comps, cuz by the time you finish setting up your rotation, enemies have already ungrouped from his E, also, double swirl difficulty depends on the team, in some teams it is easier to double swirl with sucrose. But yes, his infusion consistency is a nice touch. Doesn't make him way better than sucrose tho.
@RiotAugust
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah kazu is definetly easier and more fun for sure but in terms of dmg and also universal application in all sorts spiral abyss iterations sucrose is definetly better. If cc is what makes kazuha invaluable then you're also saying on floors where enemies are unaffected by anemo cc sucrose raw output is going to be stronger. They're very comparable units and kazuha is definetly easier and cooler but not as universal.
@zedeon6299
2 жыл бұрын
Saying kazuha is better than sucrose is like saying yelan better than xingqiu lol
@dailydoseofexistence7159
2 жыл бұрын
@@zedeon6299 Yeah but that's true
@noctisarcanus7894
2 жыл бұрын
That's why I said IMFHO at the end xD. It's for me, personally. In fact I used to be a sucrose lover and my Sucrose is super invested (lvl 90, wep 90, even I leveld her talents to get every little drop of dmg out of her) but after using Kazuha I just never touched her again. But I'm aware of how awesome and powerful she is. If you only care about numbers, both are equally good, but I really prefer Kazuha over Sucrose. The last time I had fun with her was with Sukokomon, that team was insane haha
@bishal.creator1128
2 жыл бұрын
I mean we need 2 teams in abyss, so its better if we have 2 sucrose 💀
@uzuvey11th25
2 жыл бұрын
What's the point of Sucrose's Burst Elemental Infusion priority if the required is just to touch the butterfly thingy with element? Shouldn't it be just "First touch, first fuse"?
@tristanmanalo6252
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Hoyoverse just taking into account should there be a time that an enemy that first touches the Burst is both have for example hydro and pyro status in it that's when the element infusion priority will be consider
@rexw2
2 жыл бұрын
If you for example swirl hydro with kazuha and give them the dmg buff and swirl pyro afterwards within the timespan of 8 secs, do both elements get the % dmg boost or only the last one?
@phoenixlau
2 жыл бұрын
Each element is a separate buff. They can overlap, but one does not refresh the other. Generally you want to line them up together for rotation purposes.
@salmonk2888
2 жыл бұрын
sucrose burst is reliable but u just skillissue ICANT
@le_demon
2 жыл бұрын
7:58 sick childe charge attack
@skittles6954
2 жыл бұрын
Melt, vape and overload: Sucrose Freeze, electrocharge and mono element: kazuha
@erwinbedia9606
2 жыл бұрын
Electrocharged is considered an elemental reaction, so Sucrose is better for that than Kazuha.
@kingdoom5022
2 жыл бұрын
*Who's the best anemo support* Venti : ehe
@misty_doi11
10 ай бұрын
I can't afford Kazuha, I'm hoping Sucrose can hold up my Childe team
@TerraTheWise
2 жыл бұрын
Kazuha is more fun for me and it's that simple. He's C2 on main account with FS so he completely outclasses sucrose there anyway and C0 iron sting on my secondary. I don't play very many melt or vape comps either so the raw DMG buff from Kazuha is better for me 90% of the time.
@freshmilk7122
2 жыл бұрын
The only reason why I'm not that pressed for kazoo is because sucrose exists. She's good enough.
@DiogoVKersting
2 жыл бұрын
C1 makes Kazuha need "a little" less energy recharge.... How much less ER?
@sentiss3528
2 жыл бұрын
Like 40 percent
@fightorflight2279
2 жыл бұрын
I don't care who's better since I like both so I use both.
@roennyh1362
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the comparisons of C6 Sucrose to a Kazuha (even at c2) is so controversial pretty much tells you what a an unnecessary luxury unit Kazuha is, hardly replacing Sucrose in the same way Yelan can replace XQ.
@mintsugas
2 жыл бұрын
How? Would it not be beneficial having two anemo characters for both your teams?
@vincent8136
2 жыл бұрын
Oh really? Then why isn't sucrose more used in spiral abyss than kazuha? Why do almost all damage per screenshot showcase videos have kazuha on the team instead of sucrose? Why was kazuha the most awaited rerun out of all limited characters then? Because he's a "luxury" unit? Chile don't make me laugh 💀
@DanceTowaDance
2 жыл бұрын
I'll make it simple for all of you. If you have skill issue, use Kazuha. If you have advance concept on swirls/element infusions, use Sucrose.
@johanliebert9110
2 жыл бұрын
No.
@kaga.mine.
2 жыл бұрын
who is better depends on the team and the content
@milindrathod9603
Жыл бұрын
As a F2P I find sucrose op due to the fact that I dont have kazhua : ) . I only have sucrose and Benny and am ar 22 only . ( new account lost the email of the old one )
@reynerestebanb.h4014
2 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly i refuse to have C2 Kazuha , i only use Kazuha on Raiden Hypercarry Team or Permafrost with Ayaka.
@noclicheyt2061
2 жыл бұрын
and you should have emphasized too about the shield breaking,...i think nobody else can break shield as fast as kazuha does especially when multiple elements are present,
@hachuling__
2 жыл бұрын
that's just swirl doing swirl things
@muhammadafif4023
2 жыл бұрын
As a waifu only enjoyer, kazuha who? 😛
@auroricaura
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I got kazuha this rerun because everyone was saying you should if you have the spare primos but he's kinda a scam on my account lmao, probably should've gone with yelan lol
@m.hausanhabibie6322
2 жыл бұрын
Who's next? Childe vs Ayato?
@prakharmathur9453
2 жыл бұрын
Is the charged attack+ E switch from afar equivalent to E switch close to enemies on childe or am I seeing things in the vid?
@wizsat
7 ай бұрын
Do you still need Kazuha if you have your sucrose well built? Or is it better to skip Kazuha and get a more valuable 5 star?
@RussTheFuzz
6 ай бұрын
If you have a well-built Sucrose, don't bother.
@lemonrose1254
2 жыл бұрын
I want to say that sucrose also has access to more weapons, which means she can be more flexible than kazuha. And secondly with dendro reactions on the brink of releasing, sucrose is going to be incredibly strong because of her em share. Giving em to the whole teams gives everyone damage and I theorize that in hyper bloom teams sucrose will be a premier option. I at the moment have no reason to not think sucrose will not be more broken when dendro comes out.
@flux47axe11
2 жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting For the Double subscribe video ? 😁
@iamtrasherqueen4925
2 жыл бұрын
Im using Both. Love Them Both. Kazuha being 5 Star Sucrose is a Compliment, he is an Upgrade sucrose. Sucrose already broken, you cant trash her, and Kazuha being 5 Star of the Broken Character is an Honor. End Story. No need to fight kids, just focus on your School.
@tristanmanalo6252
2 жыл бұрын
I don't really care if they die fighting whoever is more powerful or worth it between the two but for me I am always using them both in spiral abyss, anemo characters are my favorite gameplay wise. Why choose one when you can pick both 👌😎
@notjames0356
2 жыл бұрын
When fun isn't meta
@Darker1607
2 жыл бұрын
So I got Kazuha, then I wanted Heizou, so I got Kazuha C1 after 13 pulls, then 10 pulls after Kazuha c1 I got Diluc, so then I decided to say fuck it and go for c2 Kazuha
@jclspice
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call sucrose C6 'useless' it's actually pretty great. With practice you will be able to successfully use the skill and infuse the right element. It's just practice.
@koopahermit
2 жыл бұрын
In some teams like Childe+Xiangling vape, it literally is useless since Xiangling will snapshot before the ult infuses if you're doing the correct double VV setup. You do more damage by simply not using her burst at all.
@fr3941
2 жыл бұрын
@@koopahermit keyword some teams. Just because a const or passive doesn’t work a in specific team doesn’t make it useless. Kazuhas elemental damage share is useless in geo teams is his passive useless?
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