As a Ukrainian, I have never heard so clear and precise words about the russian imperialism and the war in Ukraine, russia's war, before and anywhere on the western youtube channels. Thanks a lot.
@vancouveruzbekistan5350
Жыл бұрын
I agree fully! this video should have 7 million views and not just 40 thousand. It reveals what UTTER IGNORAMUSES & INCOMPETENT IDIOTS ARE IN POWER IN THE WEST refusing to help Ukraine- COWARDS, HYPOCRITICAL TRAITORS SENDING 14 himars when UKRAINE NEEDS 140 etc....etc etc
@worththewatch1517
Жыл бұрын
Stfu. Ukrainians kept quiet when Americans were killing Iraqis so dont even mention imperialism 😂😂😂✌️
@garymelnyk7910
Жыл бұрын
This is good too. Brilliant and incisive Ukrainian lawyer. kzitem.info/news/bejne/2Juk3Xtqf4h4dGk
@Chompchompyerded
Жыл бұрын
I agree. These two gentlemen really know what they are talking about.
@rashone2879
Жыл бұрын
It’s the collective west that supports this war…they want to destroy a Russia and America’s government believes it’s up them to bring about regime change in Russia. I’m an American and I can tell you the west (NATO) doesn’t care if Ukraine is wiped out. Will you be happy to have some other imperialism? China is looking to own the world. So is the WEF, the globalists.
@Andrey-kn6yg
Жыл бұрын
All these complex thoughts about the "expansion of hot gas" were very simply formulated by Lenin: "You probe with bayonets: if you find mush, you push. If you find steel, you withdraw." Now you can see exactly how they are implemented. Therefore, Europe faces a very simple choice: resist the Russian bayonet or feel it in yourself. With best regards from Ukraine.
@buddyrojek9417
Жыл бұрын
Russia is the remnant of the Golden Horde and the warlike genetics 🧬 live on . Fight force with force. But how to contain a pit bull dog? You can’t, better to destroy it
@karinfroller7403
Жыл бұрын
You're right. We got that now. I know, very late, but let us all hope not too late. 💛💙
@jeffreyokun2355
Жыл бұрын
This mentality actually gives a major strategic advantage to Europe, IF they understand the thinking of Lenin. Give Russia a soft spot and allow them think its time to push all in, and then close the gap from behind and the flanks while letting the bayonett meet steel behind the mush! The Soviet mentality belongs in the 18th century, which is why the west has abandoned those ideologies, because they are predictable and lead to defeat.
@Titus-cm8gz
Жыл бұрын
Keir really knows what he's talking about. Another fantastic interview. As a Brit, I've been shocked by acts of Russian aggressiveness over a number of years in my own country, and I really didn't understand the motivations behind it. Keir's books have opened my eyes in this regard and I'm very grateful for that.
@gdiwolverinemale3rd
Жыл бұрын
Don't even look at the colonial past of the UK. Just focus on the past 5 seconds .... that's probably all you are capable of ... and the mirror ... and the dumb face in it.
@ennediend2865
Жыл бұрын
Fully agreed 👍👍👍
@ninemoonplanet
Жыл бұрын
It's the UK and Europe having aggressive tactics done by Russia and Russian influenced people causing some fairly ugly situations. Personally I think Brexit was partially pushed to weaken both the UK and the EU. I don't live there, so this is looking at it from outside.
@LilyTheCat151
Жыл бұрын
What do we do about it? Nothing. What can we really do about it? Not much other than try to catch the people in the act or before they've left the UK. The reality is that Russia does what it wants. Much like the defiant child pushes the boundaries, so does Russia. The likes of Putin, don't GAF about being pariahs. In fact they probably revel in it. Much like the bully revels in being feared by everyone. In regards to their military actions, they almost certainly didn't expect to find themselves in mired in a bloodbath that Ukraine has made for them. It expected an easy victory and the usual round of criticism from the West without any real consequences. The reality is, we would be silly to go to war with a nuclear power unless there really is no choice. It is much better that the Russian people themselves suffer so much that they are unwilling to accept leaders as they have. Russians need to see the rest of us as people they'd rather be friends with than rule over. Only Russians can bring their ruling classes to heal. The Russians need to see how poor their military is and that any wars they get themselves into are going to be very very painful for them at the cost of their young men. Eventually, they will get sick of their sons dying. Russian leaders can spout as much propaganda as they like but a family that has lost a son, father, knows what they have lost. We then have to hold out the hand so that they see we aren't against them.
@Chompchompyerded
Жыл бұрын
@@ninemoonplanet Spot on, and I do live here. I also see it happening all up and down the globe. I think that even China sees it, and that's the reason they voted against Russia in the UN yesterday. That's almost a first for China, at least in recent years, and suggests that the meeting between Xi and Putin did not go well. There is, of course, a history between Russia and China going back to the late 19th century when Russia seized a good chunk of north eastern China. If China still had that land, it would not have the intractable water shortages they have, and Russia would not have a port for it's Pacific fleet.
@esakoivuniemi
Жыл бұрын
Every European government should invite Mr. Giles to brief them on Russia.
@Chompchompyerded
Жыл бұрын
I'll agree, and also add in the North American governments too. All three (Canada, the United States, and Mexico) would be well served to understand it better. I'd even suggest that their parliamentarians should be briefed as well, since especially in the United States and Mexico they tend to be seen as co-equal branches of government. In Canada it's more like it is here, with the PM being a member of Parliament.
@dennisschwartzentruber3204
Жыл бұрын
Everyone should listen to this incisive , intelligent , and insightful discussion that tells it like it is ,truthfully ! There should be no doubt about Ukraine's right to exist and prevail ! Anyone who disagrees is seriuosly comprimising their morals and ethics on truth and justice !
@marisabenson1222
Жыл бұрын
I agree that a Ukrainian victory and a Russian defeat are imperative .
@sillysad3198
Жыл бұрын
russia should have been nuked in 1946
@Realist369
Жыл бұрын
Well ukrainazi have already lost so grab your tissues are cry your Nazi tears
@Ivan_the_Ripper
Жыл бұрын
not gonna happen
@Canonfudder
7 ай бұрын
@@Ivan_the_Ripper USSR will never collapse.. oh, wait it did, thus it can, it will again. No lessons were learned..
@michaelsliwowski5076
Жыл бұрын
As a Pole I concur completely with Keir Giles . Very good analysis , more please . Thank you .
@SirAntoniousBlock
Жыл бұрын
The Poles Ukrainians and Baltic peoples know the Russians better than anyone of us in Western Europe/Anglo-sphere. 👍
@allydea
Жыл бұрын
As a Pole, you were brought up to hate Russians, so of course you're going to tend to agree with and appreciate the message. It would require intelligence and intellectual honesty to see the flaws in Mr. Keir Giles' narratives.
@Chompchompyerded
Жыл бұрын
More from them would be a wonderful breath of fresh air!
@Chompchompyerded
Жыл бұрын
@@allydea I was not brought up to hate Russia, but I see a lot of truth in what he says. I am willing to entertain other viewpoints as long as they are based in fact. What do you see as the flaws in his in his arguments? Give examples and supporting truthful evidence. I am not interested in opinion. What you provide must be based on fact, and not supposition.
@allydea
Жыл бұрын
@@Chompchompyerded That's an excellent approach and I support it fully. However, I cannot understand how it is compatible with there being _" a lot of truth"_ in what Mr. Giles was saying here. I'll admit I couldn't make it past 10 minutes, I just don't have that kind of time to waste on speculation and propaganda. The critical thing that was missing in those 10 minutes from Mr. Giles was exactly factual evidence to back up his narrative. Anyway, I'm not going to rewatch it, but off the top of my head: the guy said that Russia is using "random" missiles and drones strikes deep into the territory of Ukraine for the sole purpose of sowing terror among the civilian population, essentially terrorist acts. This was a baseless and false statement. The crux of his narrative is that Russia is a backward country, lagging behind the civilized world by a century or more. To support this he mentions _"hostile acts abroad, from poisoning dissidents to shooting down airliners, interfering in elections, spying, hacking, and murdering"._ Pardon me, but are these really unique to Russia? Perhaps the poisoning is a Russia special, but what else? Hostile acts abroad?? How about good old US of A with wars all over the Middle East, Libya, etc. I guess you can say that at least the US does not discriminate, because their hostile acts abroad target both friend and foe (see Nord Stream sabotage). Interfering with elections? USA again but they're better at it than Russia. Spying, hacking? Not a good time to bring these up, with the recent Teixeira leaks: USA again. The downing of the airliner was a clear accident, no person in their right mind, whether they think Russia or Ukraine bears more responsibility, would think that was an intentional act. His argument was DOA. But I'm curious in what you thought was so great in what he was saying. Maybe you can give some examples of your own.
@terryhand
Жыл бұрын
A tremendous interview, albeit rather sobering. As well as the consistantly high quality of the guests on this channel, Jonathon deserves a great deal of praise for the quality of his questions.
@gdiwolverinemale3rd
Жыл бұрын
A tremendous pile of projections, lies and coverup for its own disingenuous agenda of milking the world for all the UK can get. Liars are to be despised
@CollectiveDefence
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic channel. The quality of the interviews is top tier.
@unfixablegop
Жыл бұрын
There can never be enough Mearsheimer bashing. 🙂
@DSAK55
Жыл бұрын
*YES!*
@timtowers7997
Жыл бұрын
You're so correct. He is a misguided, irrational, illogical fool.
@garymelnyk7910
Жыл бұрын
Agree. He’s simplistic. Vlad Vexler anatomises his strengths and weaknesses perfectly!
@mebsrea
Жыл бұрын
Though Mearsheimer and Walt were spot on with “The Israel Lobby.”
@helmutgensen4738
Жыл бұрын
Crystal clear insights to sober up any sentimentality or illusion that this invasion will end with negotiations (so Stephen Kotkin)
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍
@AndreAndFriends
Жыл бұрын
Well, its up to us. We could stop Orcs expansion during the Georgia invassion like the Baltic states wanted to or allow for negotiations and sweeping all that evil under the carpet again.
@MaryamofShomal
Жыл бұрын
Anyone who is speaking of “negotiations” with the likes of Putin’s Russia or Xi’s China is either not a serious person - or is a collaborator with these fascist, authoritarian, genocidal regimes.
@garymelnyk7910
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Despite what Noam Chomsky rambles on about in his lugubrious incantations. (Although incantations are normally “for the purpose of raising spirits”).
@mebsrea
Жыл бұрын
I mean, it will end with negotiations. The best-case scenario is still not and will never be an unconditional Russian surrender, Putin and his camarilla delivering themselves in handcuffs to the Hague, and the denazification of Russian society, politics, education, etc. At some point, Ukraine and Russia will have to negotiate, even if it’s only about the terms on which Russia evacuates Crimea and agrees to end hostilities. All we in the West can do is give Ukraine the financial, diplomatic, and military support needed to bring that outcome about.
@hannesforster1845
Жыл бұрын
Very enlightening and also disturbing. Many in "the West" need to wake up to this reality rather than clinging to illusional and wishful thinking. Thank you for this enormously important episode!
@worththewatch1517
Жыл бұрын
Just imagine America killed a million in Iraq. Just imagine
@its_Today_
Жыл бұрын
@@worththewatch1517 Tell me dear, when was the last time USA annexed a country’s territory? 🙄
@worththewatch1517
Жыл бұрын
@@its_Today_ USA annexes governments and not land. Just imagine.
@mebsrea
Жыл бұрын
@@worththewatch1517 No, the US did not. You’re off by around an order of magnitude, and most of those deaths were the result of terrorist acts by various Iraqi and foreign jihadi groups. Also don’t forget that the US removed from power a psychopathically violent dictatorship preparing to enter its second generation which had the blood of hundreds of thousands of Iranians, Kurds, Kuwaitis, and regular Arab Iraqis on its hands.
@robertshiell887
Жыл бұрын
@@worththewatch1517 shitty behaviour from the US in no way excuses the Russians crappy behaviour.
@19angela71
Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview! Keir Giles has such a clear vision of what Russia is, what to expect from Russia now and in future. Thank you for the guest.
@eddybrevet6816
Жыл бұрын
Wud a Russian listen to this, think they wud, might not like it, yet only the stupid will dismiss
@AK-ie3zj
Жыл бұрын
Another brilliant conversation. At 43 you are discussing conversations with Russians that express liberal thoughts. I have lived in Ukraine and Russia for the last 30 years and see foreigners projecting their views onto statements made by Russians, or not realizing that a Russian may say ‘democracy’ or ‘empowerment’ have a totally different understanding of the words than westerners do.
@6WireBender
Жыл бұрын
What many of us feel expressed with rhetorical brilliancy. Thank you!
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@larsrons7937
Жыл бұрын
This interview/ conversation, to me, is one of the most important you have done, and just as eye-opening as with Jade McGlynn as few months ago. I had to rewind and re-listen many times, it took me 3 hours to watch. Not that I didn't already, bit by bit, know and agree on much of what Keir Giles said, but he put it all into context. Now I have a number of people I _must_ show this. Thank you.
@nanajockel
Жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same and done the same. Six hours later I feel much invigorated…
@marcase2003
Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoying these insightful interviews, much appreciated. 👍
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@rezaa3562
Жыл бұрын
An incredibly incisive interview. Thank you! A must-see for people who hold the levers of power in Europe and in the US. The future of the world order is at stake. The old way of thinking about Russia and for that matter other petty dictators around the world just won't do.
@MaryamofShomal
Жыл бұрын
Especially in Europe. But the Republican Party here in the US is a lost cause, having been taken over by pseudo-Christian fascists that are disloyal to 🇺🇸 and pledge unity with Putin and Russia instead of their fellow Americans, aka President Biden and any and all Democrats. The main difference between the MAGA part of the GOP and the old-guard Republicans is that one half wants to take us back to the 1950s, while the other, the *1850s.* Meanwhile, Western politicians and businessmen of all stripes have been willing to sell out their own countries in order to do business with China. It’s rather pathetic that after all these decades, the West still hasn’t realized that it will *never* be allowed to do business freely in the Chinese markets. The CCP only allows enough Westerners into China so that the CCP can steal all of our IP and trade secrets, and then try to reverse-engineer cheaper Chinese versions of Western goods. The West is all too ignorant and naive when it comes to the fascist, authoritarian, genocidal regimes in Russia and China. Putin and Xi are modern iterations of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao - whereas too many Western countries are channeling Vichy France. Russia and China are our enemies and the sooner we realize it, the better we can prepare ourselves.
@Jemawin
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@gdiwolverinemale3rd
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, the world is changing. The dumb and lazy West thinks stupidity and indolence is a virtue ... and socialism is the way to go
@18_rabbit
Жыл бұрын
whoa there! not just 'pettty' ie small dictators, but big ones in some of the biggest most important countries on earth, including some of the Brics and some arab nations.
@ennediend2865
Жыл бұрын
Too much procrastination and hestitation by the West...😡
@williamhenry8914
Жыл бұрын
"Turning up to a knife fight with a spoon" was excellent, extremely apt not to mention hilarious. And Keir was a fantastic guest, I hope we see more from him in future!
@Andyfresh-nt2um
Жыл бұрын
Victory to Ukraine. Victory to the heroes of 🙌 👏 Ukraine 🇺🇦.
@coopoylozenge5964
Жыл бұрын
Another piece of top class scholarship and insight. Well done Jonathan for bringing this to us.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@gdiwolverinemale3rd
Жыл бұрын
Just the usual nonsense, coming from people who project typical fake narratives
@dlmsarge8329
Жыл бұрын
@@gdiwolverinemale3rd Go home you're drunk
@Realist369
Жыл бұрын
@@gdiwolverinemale3rdhilarious listening to such pitiful projection
@charlesmackey8179
Жыл бұрын
Very educational and insightful. I wish our American politicians would pay attention to this discussion. Our academics could also learn something.
@anthonycook6613
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, some of your academics are very knowledgeable on this topic. Timothy Snyder, for example, is no slouch :-)
@judithord4065
Жыл бұрын
This was the best interview I've heard, simply because it echoes what I have come to believe, that the Russians are stuck in the past and are unable to move forward. Sadly, it seems only total defeat will halt them. Thank you
@planetcaravan2925
Жыл бұрын
Seems like the same with germany in ww1-ww2, you had to step to their ground to end the bullshit
@gdiwolverinemale3rd
Жыл бұрын
lol. Perhaps it is worth considering that it is you in the West who are stuck in the past and believe that laziness, indolence, stupidity and socialism are the things that will help you to maintain world supremacy. I have some news for you ....
@sharon_shaw
Жыл бұрын
Exactly... Ruzzians behave like dark ages denizens and that's where they're headed when fully deprived of technology through sanctions + secondary sanctions. Slava 💙🇺🇦💛
@ninemoonplanet
Жыл бұрын
Russia has long been accustomed to thinking and now, believing it's a major political and military power in the world. It's not, actually never has been. Those beliefs are embedded in the world wars, where Russia has developed myths about what happened then. Yes, the entire country is regressing, going backwards.
@gdiwolverinemale3rd
Жыл бұрын
@@ninemoonplanet What a silly projection. The entire NATO, Washington, in particular, is obsessed with that "never was and is not a big power". Why is that? You think your feelings are more accurate than the efforts of the US government?
@2russo.phobic4u
Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE for you to debate Noam Chomsky, Jeremy Corbyn or even John Mearsheimer. I think you would be ideal for this...
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
That would be pretty crazy- but why not?!
@2russo.phobic4u
Жыл бұрын
@@SiliconCurtain I agree it's pretty crazy but these people keep pushing pro-Kremlin narratives and I have yet to see any real pushback.
@stuartwray6175
Жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Sachs, Anatol Lieven, Marlene Laruelle, Richard Sakwa, Vladimir Pozner, Katrina Vanden Heuvel, Dr Nicolai Petro.
@dbsteckey
Жыл бұрын
Excellent program and a terrific guest. Thank you.
@Kurtlane
Жыл бұрын
This is a stunning conversation. It should be translated into Russian, so that Russians can look in the mirror.
@Andrey-kn6yg
Жыл бұрын
They know it. And they don't care. Only thing that they care is not to find themself personally on the line of gunfire.
@ldhorricks
Жыл бұрын
@@Andrey-kn6yg or in a gulag or without the bling and Western material good the Russian Bourgeoise love to wear enjoy and flaunt at home and abroad. Russia is one of the most morally, ethically bankrupt nations of people on the planet. This coming from someone who spent a great deal of time there ver the past 40 years. Most Russians I have met have little understanding of the concept of self reflection, accountability, or community. I don't see it ever changing.
@ldhorricks
Жыл бұрын
do you think listening the truth will change the millions of Trump followers that the election wasnt stolen....same scenario
@AndreAndFriends
Жыл бұрын
@@ldhorricks very insightful. Thank you.
@AndreAndFriends
Жыл бұрын
@@ldhorricks you're a very brave man. Survived in Russia for 40 years? That's better than most Russian men that I've met. Nost of them just want to drink themselves to death.
@SANDRA-ni3wi
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing such an insightful view of Russian society and politics.
@gdiwolverinemale3rd
Жыл бұрын
... which of course it is nothing of the sort. In the best case, it tells that Russia is no different than any other major power
@mebsrea
Жыл бұрын
@@gdiwolverinemale3rd Tell me you didn’t understand the discussion without telling me you didn’t understand the discussion.
@SirAntoniousBlock
Жыл бұрын
Finally, a Western intellectual who understands Russia and Russian history and the myth of the good Russian just waiting to embrace Liberalism.
@Richard-hv5hh
Жыл бұрын
Incredibly insightful and highly eloquent by both participants. I felt I was listening to thinkers who are way above the familiar Russian experts that have been so prominent in the media since the invasion. I can see from glancing at other comments that this interview has had a profound effect on viewers. Very impressive and of course I subscribed as a result!
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I also feel this is one of the strongest videos on the whole channel!
@Richard-hv5hh
Жыл бұрын
@Silicon Curtain If I might add an observation. What struck a chord with me, and probably others, is the quite terrifying implications of the reality of Russian thinking. Instead of focusing on Putin and his thinking, the emphasis was on a sort of State that is more out of a Sci fi horror movie. A state that moves into any vacuum and replicates its thinking into the host poulation. Straight out of the movie Alien. Yet that seems to be what is being described. The example of Chechen is powerful. A state that not that many years ago detested the Russian regime now is in total unison. It has been " absorbed" and reprogrammed. In addition, the emphasis on the West's delusional search for the "sensible and good" Russian liberals who will prevail over the autocratic regime is shown here to be a pipedream.
@t.a.landry5727
Жыл бұрын
@@Richard-hv5hh 👍...very well put, excellent description... the ramifications of which are also frightening!!!
@tripspointcom7062
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! The clearest and the most logical explanation I ever heard. In fact, Russian population needs denazification and defragmentation into a different independent states. That's what will really solve the problem.
@ИннаРогозина-у1ю
Жыл бұрын
The dissolution of the United States will solve not just this but all world problems!
@Perkelenaattori
Жыл бұрын
Russia is the last colonial empire that hasn't decolonised yet.
@NiPaVou
Жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting and insightful discussions about Russia ,I've seen. Thank you so much!
@camillalotus1177
Жыл бұрын
Highly enlightening interview. I really value your podcasts, Jonathan. I am eagerly awaiting the next one! 🇺🇦✌️
@GeneralGayJay
4 ай бұрын
I hope our political leaders watch this episode. It is extremely valuable.
@eepberlin7970
Жыл бұрын
What a great discussion, a lot of attention to detail, more people need to hear this!
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍
@dogefort8410
Жыл бұрын
Like & share on social media. Reach doesn't come of itself
@alanmurphy5282
Жыл бұрын
Best interview yet. Clear-headed, insightful guest. Any chance he could talk some sense into western 'leaders'?
@mikeywatkins1806
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic content, thank you for putting this into the world
@stellascott4584
Жыл бұрын
No words for how much I looove this particular interview!! So many topics addressed that I've been musing over by myself. 😍🤩🥳😅
@ianstern7128
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis. Keir has a sharp mind. His comments have laser precision, directed to the core of the issue.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍
@HungryGhost999
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and enlightening interview. It’s very hard to fight an authoritarian regime where media is so tightly controlled as opposed to the freedom of speech in “The West”. Never take freedom for granted.
@jaymacpherson8167
Жыл бұрын
Excellent! The best summary of how I perceive the Russian imperial bent.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍
@michaelyu6472
Жыл бұрын
Best analysis I have ever heard. Great job!
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@louisemarianiehausniehaus6680
Жыл бұрын
Thank-you for your time and educational broadcasts with content that matters in the world today. A "must listen to" by world leaders, fingers crossed.
@sirrodneyffing1
Жыл бұрын
Every interview peels another layer off, what us to most of us, is a kind of unfathomable poisonous onion that seems to defy compression. Another fantastic interview, thank you.
@davidwright5094
Жыл бұрын
comprehension?? (although might be worth trying compression??)
@sirrodneyffing1
Жыл бұрын
@@davidwright5094 Spelling Nazis are such a pain. It's predictive text correction most of the time numb nuts. This kind of snid BS is what makes people, especially kids in school, people who didn't have the benefit of a full education or people learning a language, afraid to express themselves; it's pointless and quite sad.
@richardlindquist5936
Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Nice dose of real politik from Mr Giles. Many people mistake understanding Putin’s NATO concerns for justification of the invasion and expansionism. Events can be related but not causal. US backed NATO expansion, while problematic, did not require Russia to respond with an invasion. But evidently that was the preferred response, and here we are.
@bluemarlin8138
Жыл бұрын
NATO expansion isn’t problematic, except to Russia’s imperial ambitions. NATO wasn’t aggressively expanding. The former Soviet and Warsaw Pact countries applied for membership specifically for protection from Russia. They knew the Russians would eventually try to subjugate them again if they didn’t have that shield. Fortunately we in the US didn’t let our optimism about Russia joining the 21st century blind us quite enough to deny them membership.
@beatabilikova4399
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. This is a great interview with persuasive observations and insights.
@chriwa6830
Жыл бұрын
So right to the point!! 💯👏👏👏
@jannarkiewicz633
Жыл бұрын
Your guests are superb as is our interview style. Love you channel.
@magpiegirl3783
Жыл бұрын
Very good guest and excellent interview.
@LarsPallesen
Жыл бұрын
I think this interview gave me a better understanding of Russia's real intent and thinking than any other interview or speech I've seen before. It's clear to me now that I've been too naive in the past about Russia. I couldn't believe that there wasn't some sort of rational thinking behind their moves - meaning something that we would recognize as rational here in the West. But as depressing as it is, it really does seem that we can't solve our differences with Russia with words and diplomacy.
@andyhyner9467
Жыл бұрын
Russia is about primitives. The mindset is back in Neanderthal times. The Kremlin has the largest country in the world with practically unlimited natural resources however it lacks the 21st Century thinking to exploit what is already has. So tragic to witness a country with such ancient instincts that have so far cost the lives of 190,000 of its people.
@nigeldunkley2986
Жыл бұрын
Extremely valuable insight. If you want to understand the rather enigmatic psychology of Putin look no further than the recommendations and explanations brought out in this excellent discussion. As a military student of everything Russian for many years with a couple of years accredited to the GSFG in the GDR, and including being labelled a "Putinologist" the tragedy in miscomprehension in the West will extend the "twisting of history" and its consequencs for the Ukraine will last for a very long time. Slava Bogu, i slava Ukraiini.
@buddyrojek9417
Жыл бұрын
We need to help the Ukrainian people with soldiers and go all the way to Moscow and dismantle these apes for the sake of world peace
@corinnem.239
Жыл бұрын
I hope I am wrong, but I sometimes feel like the current US military leaders are too closely comfortable with a Russia that is a superpower. They seem to consistently be underestimating Ukraine and holding back in its confrontation with Russia, looking to somehow preserve Russia.
@planetcaravan2925
Жыл бұрын
Russia is not a superpower, its economy is at a scale of spain. Its more like saudis with nukes
@bluemarlin8138
Жыл бұрын
Many in power in the US grew up with the idea that the USSR was a superpower. It’s hard for them to get that idea out of their heads, even though the USSR was on a steep downslope after the 1960s, and is now a pathetic shell of even the late 80s version of the USSR. Yes, Russia still has nukes (although it’s debatable whether their numbers are accurate or whether they function), but you can’t be a superpower with an economy smaller than two US states and an army that is struggling militarily in Ukraine. Say what you will about Vietnam or Afghanistan (or Iraq, even though that was an outright win), but the US military dominated those conflicts.
@blairmcian
Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation.
@scouser2230
Жыл бұрын
This discussion of Russia and the Russian psyche is the best explanation of the topic I have heard. It would be a wonderful and useful idea if the leaders of the Western countries, together with perhaps the leaders of those countries acquiescing to Russia’s aggression, watched this video and internalized its salient points.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
I do wish more decision makers could watch this video in particular…
@kameraadbonesoep
Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! But on Germany I think a little dismissive. Germany was shocked by this war and is very much changing. And Germany being Germany they are processing this silently but thoroughly. I think the changing of foreign minister and the evolution of the debate on sending arms (which was an absolute no no before this invasion started) can attest to that. Maybe you have to be Dutch to see it.😄 France I don't know, maybe we must ask the good people in Belgium 🙃
@77thTrombone
Жыл бұрын
Two gentlemen with radio voices, television faces, and that most precious of commodities: wisdom.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
Aw, what a nice thing to say! Better than radio faces, reality TV intellects, and silent movie voices…
@77thTrombone
Жыл бұрын
@@SiliconCurtain 🤣🤣🤣
@77thTrombone
Жыл бұрын
40:20 HA! here you have clearly disassociated yourself from your marketing experience! The successful modern media juggernaut will leverage every advantage afforded by user engagement metrics. You don't need to be "Tucker Curtain," but it would not hurt to fall a little short of _Encyclopædia Britannica's_ editorial standards now and again. (BTW, I am not a stalker nor a lurker, nor do I even have a crush on you. Do not worry!)
@wadeblackwell4550
Жыл бұрын
I hope western leaders take note of this conversation ,they could skip years of frustration if they do !!!
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
I wish they would!!!
@grahamgibbs5948
Жыл бұрын
Enlightening dialog. Many thanks.
@annaclarke7643
Жыл бұрын
So many of my questions about Russia and it's tyranny so wonderfully explained in this amazing thoughtful interview.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
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@dougnave8258
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@michaelbedford8017
Жыл бұрын
This should be shown on BBC tv. It's the most in-depth analysis of the current situation and it's historical backdrop I've ever seen.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite interviews on the channel…
@ldhorricks
Жыл бұрын
I've commented on Russia on hundreds of threads, channels, pocasts you name it, over the past year and half...and all I seem to be able to come up with "What to do about Russia?...in some ways the one thing we cant let them do is be the Russia it desires to be.
@planetcaravan2925
Жыл бұрын
Yes, if it always causes a random leaks of little green men to neighboring countries
@dangallagher8034
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful discussion. Thank you very much.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍
@markbrown2749
Жыл бұрын
A compelling, important conversation that shows the naivety of many positions held about Russia and this war. Very illuminating!
@fredfred2363
Жыл бұрын
Fab interview 👍🏻😀🇬🇧
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
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@treverblanco
Жыл бұрын
I've seen that interview with Dudayev. It's eerie how much he saw coming, but I guess having an inside view of that system made it very clear to him. He was a good man.
@collintrytsman3353
Жыл бұрын
agree utterly with what he said
@ericwillis777
Жыл бұрын
Great interview, for me it gets right back to fundamentals, and we noted this before, and we corresponded on it, - 2023 in "the West" is 1623 or 1723 in Russia, including their autocracy, serfdom, (absence of freedom), and their "aristocracy", (oligarchs) , the brutality, secret police, and in those centuries War and invasion, was a normal part of the toolbox of governing. Another reason which was not covered was the isolation of Russia from the West, both by choice during USSR, and also because of geography. Indoctrination, and propaganda, are the usual tools for governing , and Russian ideas of Greatness and Empire are amplified by regenerative personal pride.
@planetcaravan2925
Жыл бұрын
Atleast since the times of Ivan the terrible
@grahamelliott9506
Жыл бұрын
silicon curtain is a great channel , one of those quality gems of the internet that deserve a larger digital footprint than they're getting happy to like and subscribe and comment for you and your guests!
@ldhorricks
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who expressed my feelings about the likes of Mearsheimer et al. I've been arguing against his out of touch non-reality for years and especially in the last year and half.
@irongron
Жыл бұрын
I just watched this one again today and it hasn't dated at all and never will be dated. Definitely worth setting aside the time to have a look.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
This is my absolute favourite interview of them all:
@irongron
11 ай бұрын
Just hit this one up for the 3rd time now, it's part of the "mother lode"!
@stephenbethell7548
Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview . Thank you Jonathon for your work . As someone who's lived in Russia for over 10 years so much of what Kier was saying resonated with me especially VICTIMHOOD, its everywhere apart of course from where it should be directed .
@carylhalfwassen8555
Жыл бұрын
My ex daughter in law was of Russian descent from Ukraine. Always was a victim, never her fault, no proactive planning to avoid social differences, or a simple thank you.
@sillysad3198
Жыл бұрын
when you mentioned "people who know russia" i started slamming this "like" button again and again
@felipearbustopotd
Жыл бұрын
Human instincts have not changed, but our behaviours have. Sadly the former is still rife within the Russian mentality. Maybe as mentioned, a defeated Russia will change from instinct to acting with better behaviour? If Russia can't obey international rules based order why is its place in the UN security council still tolerated?
@paulstewart6293
Жыл бұрын
Something to do with several thousand nuclear weapons and a history of complete indifference to massive population loss.
@felipearbustopotd
Жыл бұрын
@@paulstewart6293 Russia mentality to the sanctity of life is and has been very poor. Human bodies that end up as pure cannon fodder is sadly part of their thinking. One death is tragic, 1 million is pure statistic.
@peterkilby1497
Жыл бұрын
We are all in this war, the Russian policy under Putin very cruel to their own internally as well what should motivate all of us. Keir Giles really puts it together logically very difficult to unravel why in this day and age. Can't agree more thanks for bringing his work and thinking work to my attention was thinking along those lines but unable to unwrap it. Be great to see you guys address Colonel MacGregor propaganda very damaging to Ukraine pro Putin.
@andrewvisser5805
Жыл бұрын
A excellent interview which deepens my convictions about Russian aggression.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
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@richardsimms251
Жыл бұрын
It is interesting that the average Russian citizen has been deliberately isolated from the “conventional thinking” and “ideas” of other countries. This explains the gullibility and “stupidity” of the people RS. Canada
@AndreAndFriends
Жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! 👍👍👍
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
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@AndreAndFriends
Жыл бұрын
@@SiliconCurtain thx mate
@derekyoung4729
Жыл бұрын
Very worth watching
@carlettesouthern-robert2992
Жыл бұрын
Awesome Discussion!💫🌟🌟🌟🌟💫
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍☺️
@American-In-Mykolaiv
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I am happy to have discovered and subscribed "Silicon Curtain" - you present the best interviews!
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
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@UBBro-os6xl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Mr. Keir Giles and Mr. Jonathan Fink for your very intersting hard talk resp. facts about Russia and the West. Further I was also listening to the Russian writer Michail Schischkin who lives in Switzerland. My name is Ulrich and I am a 76 year old Swiss interested in World Politics. Kind regards,
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍 thanks for listening, and for your thoughtful comment. Michail Shishkin is a very interesting writer, for sure.
@natbirchall1580
Жыл бұрын
I see no other way out then to disable the Russian war capabilities. Physicaly or economicaly.. I think it is useles to discus the '"Russian people" same as dicussing "Chinese people" they have no agency
@kashmirha
Жыл бұрын
Very important, sobering thoughts about russia.
@steve-real
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you Jonathan. There seems to be recognition in the last year about Russia’s imperialist attitudes. It is changing the way we see Russia. I know your guests, you, and other Russian experts, have changed my view of how they function.
@ldhorricks
Жыл бұрын
Former Warsaw "Pact" Countries under the former Soviet/Russian coercion and oppression have being trying to tell Western Europe this for years...now maybe Western Europe is listening.
@poladelarosa8399
Жыл бұрын
An extraordinarily instructive and educational interview by Jonathan Fink with Keir Giles on Russian mindset, past, present and future.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@simplulo
Жыл бұрын
The speakers touch on several of the factors that motivated Putin/Russia to invade Ukraine. It's good to always keep in mind that no one factor determines Russia's behavior, and one can debate the factors' order of importance. I would disagree that the Ukraine invasion started out as Russia's war, not Putin's, and that it would have happened anyway had someone else been Russia's leader. Putin invaded for his own reasons, but the Russian elite and people went along with it because of various other factors, including the nature of Russian society and history. As Stephen Kotkin says, Putin’s invasion certainly did not run counter to Russia’s history. What I rarely hear mentioned is the effect of the 'resource curse' on Russia. The availability of oil means that Russia does not have to establish a stable, business-friendly society like resource-poor countries such as Japan and Switzerland. Russia’s historical, cultural, geographical, and natural-resource traits are infertile ground for liberal-democratic reforms. Ukraine has a much better shot at liberal democracy, and that is why Putin wanted to erase it from the map.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
Petro tyranny would be a very worthwhile topic for another episode. I agree on your other points.
@andyreznick
Жыл бұрын
A truly insightful interview. I hope it goes wide. Thanks!
@Mr.Monta77
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview.
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
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@sassulusmagnus
Жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a shock to realize that although Russia is technologically modern, it is in some ways still stuck in the 19th century.
@richardstevens9291
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Let's hope our Foreign Office listens to this and absorbs its important points.
@pburgvenom
Жыл бұрын
share this everywhere!
@chrisnamaste3572
Жыл бұрын
After hearing this I am so thankful the Russian girlfriend didn't work out...
@buddyrojek9417
Жыл бұрын
Trust me, best thing that happened. They are only good for pornos
@planetcaravan2925
Жыл бұрын
You were lucky regardless of whats happening
@vancouveruzbekistan5350
Жыл бұрын
this analysis should have at least 7 million views!!!!!!!
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@davidb6576
Жыл бұрын
Terrific insight into how putin leverages greivance and "destiny" to drive his goals. Thanks to you both.
@dereksollows9783
Жыл бұрын
The Russian perspective has been grossly overlooked and it serves us well to be be called up for assuming that an end to hostilities will be an end to the Russia problem. Thanks for your insights.
@wytchend
Жыл бұрын
Great insight, but still worrying that victory is taking so long for Ukraine
@josephtraficanti689
Жыл бұрын
Keir Giles makes absolutely perfect Sense. I will be looking into his recent book. What to do about it is to cut the Evil State down to size by sending it Back to the Dark Ages it loves so much.
@mortenjohansen4120
Жыл бұрын
This video is Silicon Curtains best. I would love to listen to more from Keir!!!
@SiliconCurtain
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 I think so too!
@turboponies
Жыл бұрын
As s Russian I am very glad there is such a comprehensive and clear understanding that your guest has shown. I have not seen the name before. But I find the accents, tonality and focus of his remarks very much on point with my own. In part that is surprising (to me personally) - for all the latter years of Cold War we were opined about by people in the West of much hawkish dispositions and the Soviet threat. Not without the grounds for that, but still with a lot of omissions. And with time passed I see that a more realistic and insightful view has developed about the Russia that you do not know, that is not the glossy covers and not the major cities. I wish this voice would have been more publicly known.
@SarahMould
Жыл бұрын
So pleased for the validation of my longtime assertion that nations (and businesses) go through a life from birth to old age and death. Just as we are all at different stages of our lives, so are the countries of the world. The problem is to determine at what stage each is at, so as to communicate with them appropriately.
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