How are you sir. I have two RFB's, 18' and 24' and a KSG. Bought them off Gunbroker so they had a few rounds through the RFB's when I got them. I may be one of the lucky ones because my experience with the RFB's has been extremely positive. I've read all the reviews and watch a number of YT post hating the RFB. ew things I've picked up on is that you MUST put about 400 to 500 rounds down range to break it in. The other is to determine the gas setting for the rounds you will be using. Once I got my RFB's, I set the gas at 20 clicks from bottom, meaning completely closing the piston (laying the RFB on its left side, rotating the adjustment knob away from you to you can't rotate it anymore}, then turn it 20 clicks towards you. This is a start. This is what I call my "base set" making all my adjustment from there. I have also found out that over the counter brand ammo can change the gas setting as well. If I'm not mistaken, the RFB is chambered for 7.62 NATO, but can shoot .308. I have found out that there is a slight difference between 7.62 NATO and .308 cartridge headspace and powder load which could cause cycling problems. I have shot 7.62x51 PMC x-Tac, Federal (steel core), American Eagle (steel core), IMI Samson (Israeli made), Aguilla and MEN (German Made). Keeping it simple, I'm going to stick to 7.62 NATO PMC x-Tac, MEN and Aguilla. They give me a tight shot group, easy to find and I don't have to reset the gas piston when I shoot. Different story when I put the suppressor on. I'm not an expert so follow up with your own research. Let me know what you find. Good luck. #eagertolearn
@boltfiend
7 жыл бұрын
6Glock Griff your feedback is much appreciated! I have yet to reset the gas and get back out to shoot the RFB some more but I do love the rifle and I am eager to get it functioning properly. The ammo I am currently using is the German MEN ammo which is much easier to find and more reasonably priced than other 7.62x51 ammo ive found. I will definitely be adjusting the gas block and sending a few hundred more rounds down the tube. I love the concept of the rifle and its ambidextrous features. My biggest dissapointment is that i paid $1700 for the rifle and saw it on sale for $1300 3 weeks later.
@6glockgriff785
7 жыл бұрын
I'm real excited about the weapons too. I was originally looking at the Desert Tech SRS A1 Covert. Over the counter they run $6000 to $7000. Had one insight on GB for $4500 with a scope and bipod, got away from me though, thankfully. Yea, I know bought pricing. I bought in on the 18" at $1290 and saw one sold for $1100 a couple weeks later. Good thing is looking at GB prices now a days, buy now prices are going up helping our resale value. FYI: If there is a weapon issue, Kel Tec will be more than happy to help. Let me know how it goes bruh.......
@johnrousch9149
7 жыл бұрын
If you set your Plasma rifle to the 40 Watt range you should have no more issues.
@Rick_Sanchez_C137_
6 жыл бұрын
“Hey, just what you see, pal.”
@Sidewinder528
6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Sidewinder528
6 жыл бұрын
I'll Be Back
@ccfmfg
Жыл бұрын
@@Sidewinder528 Get to the Chopper.....Leave the Kel-tec and take the Cannolies!
@marlondemarco
6 жыл бұрын
When I got my rfb I had constant Ftf and double feeds. I Sent it back and Keltec replaced the barrel because they said the gas port wasn’t the right diameter. They set the gas setting while testing and shot several rounds before they sent it back. She has been a beast every since. If you’re having issues and know the gas setting is correct send it back
@kevinfox1780
7 жыл бұрын
I have one of these in 24 inch and love it, I also the Austrian FN FAL which has never FTFed, so I looked at the feed ramp on the FAL and noticed there were two indentations going into the chamber that allowed for smooth feeding. I took out my dremel and emulated the feed ramp in the RFB and I've had no problems. Just FYI
@boltfiend
7 жыл бұрын
that sounds like a good idea! i never thought to imitate the feed ramps. i originally bought this rifle because I wanted an FAL but couldnt find any on the market so this was my 2nd choice. Since this video i have adjusted the gas a bit and it works flawlessly with the same German MEN ammo I used in this video.
@none-sb8lt
6 жыл бұрын
I have a Gen 2 RFB with 2,000+ rounds and only had one FTF during the break in procedure. When you first get the rifle read the manual, then take the gun apart and clean it. Lube it then put it back together. During break in my gas setting was 27 clicks open and after break in it is now at 24 clicks open. Use mild 308 ammo no high performance stuff since it is a 7.62x51 rifle. No steel case ammo and you'll be good. I have 1,000 rounds of Armscor 308 147 grain and 1,000 American hand loaded 7.62x51 147 grain through the gun. All brass casings! 99% of problems I see people having are user issues. The Gas setting seems to confuse alot of people and is the main culprit. You want enough gas to push that bolt back but not enough to bruise your shoulder.
@troy3456789
Жыл бұрын
I never really understood the wonders of a buffer spring until my rfb taught me 😅😅
@jdblackwell2
7 жыл бұрын
One thing I've learned with my KT's (this really applies to all guns AFAIC) is that before you put a single round downrange, disassemble, clean and lube the gun. *Then* put a few hundred rounds through it. The first part will greatly reduce any failures, the second is good break in.
@troy3456789
Жыл бұрын
@Trading Algorithm keltecs are nicely packed full of cosmoline, in case they gotta sit on the shelf a minute. My rfb was a sticky mess inside.
@pavelsambuev2123
6 жыл бұрын
These Rifles are tested and adjusted in factory, for a 147 GR round. if you want AK like reliability, use 147GR or near by. otherwise adjust your system.
@proplays386
5 жыл бұрын
This video saved me money 💰 thank you very much
@dulius6922
4 ай бұрын
The fart before the safety click was historic
@dontmesswitme1
7 жыл бұрын
Out the box, it should be cleaned and lubed and expect to adjust the gas setting because it is most likely not set to whatever you decided to run in it. also if you decide to run it suppressed be sure to pick up the optional gas piston that's optimized for suppressor use.
@troy3456789
Жыл бұрын
Inside mine it was full of cosmoline.
@clintlewis1715
6 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of comments about adjusting the gas. Have seen several reviews that discuss the same thing and that seems to be Kel Tec's official response. I'm sorry, but you shouldn't have to adjust the gas system every time you use a different brand of ammo. Go unsuppressed to suppressed, yes adjusting gas makes sense, but not for different ammo. Looks more like Kel Tec's just sucks at designing a reliable bullpup rifle.
@breed4659
5 жыл бұрын
Itll work with pretty much any ammo with the gas all the way open. You can tune it down to shoot softer with some ammo in some conditions. Thats a positive thing not negative
@troy3456789
Жыл бұрын
I had to clean all the cosmoline out of mine. It took my rfb a good couple hundred rounds to break it in. Then, no problems at all.
@FTWson
5 жыл бұрын
That is such a gorgeous gun. I feel like the mag didn't seat correctly, causing the feeding issue. I really hope you get it cycling right and aren't turned off it. It really is "beautiful" as you put it. Congrats
@Wiz.37083
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Kawasaki. I have the ksg and it's a hoot to shoot. hope to have a rfb soon. good job on the video btw.
@boltfiend
7 жыл бұрын
the Wiz thanks! i plan to get another video up soon, the rifle functions pretty decent now with the occasional hiccup but i very much enjoy it
@georgeazar6879
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I’m planning to buy one in about 1 week. Just want to find out if you would buy this rifle again? I would appreciate anyone’s feedback! Thank you in advance!
@kenmey6803
6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. Got my RFB few days ago but have not had the chance to shoot yet.
@craw0808
7 жыл бұрын
Check your gas settings B!! Still saving for mine!!
@roycesjourney37
5 жыл бұрын
Dude!! I really want an RFB, I already have a finnicky 308 rifle. My FNAR. I want a budget option that feeds everything, I really wish the RFB was it!! Ugh.
@12masterr
5 жыл бұрын
The rfb is more money than the fnar,and mather of fact,my rfb runs way better than my fnar,that is way more picky about ammo
@jgamble60
7 жыл бұрын
I've owned my 1st gen RFB for about 5+ years never had any issues once I learned how to set the gas system until I recently used steel case ammo! I read online that some people have had no issues with steel but I won't be going back to it unless its going in an AK. If you own a RFB take the time out and learn to set the gas system! There's a video on KZitem where the guy explains step by step how to do so!
@ccfmfg
Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have to field strip a Rifle to Clear a Malfunction. Redesign to have better access to the Chamber. Maybe base the redesign on the RDB? Or do they have Issues too?
@todd8095
5 жыл бұрын
My guess thermold. Use dsarms metric and IDF surplus with replacement springs and followers.only issues gas adjustments. 2 rds out of 1000.
@Holret
5 жыл бұрын
I guess you are not ready for the covenant war with your battle rifle.
@verfed
7 жыл бұрын
I really liked the look of this rifle, a 308 bullpup, even better looking than the MDR - which isn't even out yet, if ever; But it just doesn't work, takes hundreds of rounds to break in and then still it isn't reliable for the price. Again very cool looking gun, but I can't do it. I'll have to wait till they improve it or a better 308 bullpup comes out.
@DrWolfensteinz
7 жыл бұрын
It really doesn't take that many rounds to break in, and the reliability aspect is sorta minor when the gas system is dialed in. Biggest issues I've seen as of late were faulty DS arms mags, but that's been consistently true for a while now.
@60roundchopper19
7 жыл бұрын
You should've adjusted the gas as soon as you got your first failure to feed. After you kept firing without adjusting, the malfunctions was on you. It's hard to give a decent review without making the necessary adjustments.
@boltfiend
7 жыл бұрын
William Wilson 1 FTF does not immediately require a gas adjustment. i own several firearms and this is the 1st rifle to ever need a gas adjustment from the factory. A friend bought this same rifle at the same time I did and has never had an issue with FTF, so why would I assume my rifle in particular needed an adjustment?
@60roundchopper19
7 жыл бұрын
I really don't know why Kel-tec made so many gas adjustments for the RFB, but I'm sure there is a reason behind it. I read the manual and did exactly what they said to do before I fired it. I had 1 failure to feed and turnede it a quarter of a turn and never had an issue since. All I'm saying is it could've been a far better review if you would've made an adjustment and then continued the review.
@boltfiend
7 жыл бұрын
William Wilson i understand your point and get where your coming from. I decided to make a random video when I was out shooting and didnt put to much thought into it so i didnt really consider it a review. Just wanted others to see some possible issues from the factory. Even with the gas adjustment, once the ammo is changed it continues to FTF. Not to fun adjusting the gas everytime i decide to switch ammo.
@joecool3848
6 жыл бұрын
I've had mine for about a year, and at first I ran into some of the same problems you had in this vid. I adjusted the gas for the steel case ammo I was using, then gave it a few extra clicks, to avoid having to fine tune it every time I change ammo. It's not perfect for each option, but it hasn't had any more problems.
@beatysboy1406
4 жыл бұрын
very nice looking gun man, i want one!
@Trigger_Slap
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I was going to buy one till I saw this!
@georgeazar6879
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I’m planning to buy one in about 1 week. My question is would you buy this rifle again? Anyone’s feedback would be appreciated! Thank you in advance! George
@boltfiend
6 жыл бұрын
George Azar i would and wouldnt buy this rifle again. Although I love the rifle now that Ive worked out the gas issues. I still have the occasional hiccup with different ammo. Also, i paid about $1700 for this rifle and noticed about 2 weeks later the going rate was about $1300-$1400. I feel this rifle is worth about $1100 max. Its got some neat features but definitely not my #1 go to weapon. The design is good, and not everyone has 1 in their safe so I like having something that stands out as well lol
@georgeazar6879
6 жыл бұрын
kawasakirida91 thank you for your impute. I like the rifle a lot. I use to own several FN FAL’s so I’ve got lots of FN mags laying around. I’m having second thoughts about the rifle. Don’t know for sure whether to buy the RFB or another FAL? Thank you again!
@Cajunisback
6 жыл бұрын
kawasakirida91 I dig the honestly bro.
@TheNastyN88
7 жыл бұрын
Hows it running now that you've had it for a few months?
@boltfiend
7 жыл бұрын
TheNastyN88 ive got it dialed in pretty good and havnt had any major issues. Pretty satisfied with it at this point.
@scottyjordan9023
Жыл бұрын
I close my gas port all the way off, then backed it off 15 clicks mine ran great with 147 grain
@videos4mydad
3 жыл бұрын
i really want to buy a bullpup that does 308. Of all the videos i have seen about the RFB, 80% of people having issues. In a self defense situation you don't want even 98% success rate.
@troy3456789
Жыл бұрын
Ive had mine for 4 years. For the first couple months, I wanted to beat George Kellgren over the head with it. Now, after getting used to it, learning it, I wouldn't be without it.
@anthonymartin8230
3 ай бұрын
If THIS is your self-defense weapon I'm 98% sure you are choosing the wrong type of weapon. I'm just trying to imagine this sitting on the nightstand. I know it's short but really? All jokes aside...I picked the RFB because of its uniqueness and packaging. I'm not going to war...I'm not hunting with it. I just love the design. Also I chose the 24" version and noticed that it doesn't have as much gas coming out versus the 18" version. If I have to ever pull this out the world has truly gone to crap!
@DrWolfensteinz
7 жыл бұрын
So, you didn't adjust the gas when you got the rifle?
@boltfiend
7 жыл бұрын
ClarkeSensei no i did not, i read many reviews of the rifle working fine without any adjustments. while others will need adjustments so i decided to try it without any adjustments first
@DrWolfensteinz
7 жыл бұрын
The RFB needs to be adjusted from the factory. though it seems your gun is already close to being good. you might have read RDB reviews on accident, due to those being set from the factory at a good gas setting.
@boltfiend
7 жыл бұрын
ClarkeSensei its running pretty good now that I have adjusted it. i really enjoy the rifle despite the minor hiccups it was having. I didnt know too much about this rifle before I bought it tho. but i def appreciate the feedback!
@DrWolfensteinz
7 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear.
@tombraver6449
6 жыл бұрын
Its like a civilian FAMAS.
@MrAbrek777
5 жыл бұрын
So did you figure out what was the problem?
@boltfiend
5 жыл бұрын
Definitely the gas
@joecool3848
6 жыл бұрын
For anybody who doesn't get how (or why) to adjust the gas, this is a great video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lpt6xXdug2p3npg
@majbatou707
6 жыл бұрын
Need to tweak the gas settings
@wetstoffels3198
6 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a battle rifle lol
@Jetdoctor49
5 жыл бұрын
Just tell the enemy time out so you can disassemble your gun
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