I was driving one of those in the UK over 40 years ago. It was made by Hoyner, they also made car transporters. No more likely to fall over than any other artic tipper. I loved it, if you got bogged, you could 'walk' it out by alternatively braking the trailer and unit individually.
@jasinmarch8240
Жыл бұрын
Very inpractical
@dustinpryde3121
5 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling with truck drivers. When I'm paving big lots and having alot of trucks running we start out with them all split up in the morning but by the afternoon I got 20 semis pulling in all at the same time, never fails. Lol. They are good guys, I just like pulling their leg from time to time.
@joemuldune354
7 жыл бұрын
I can't count how many times I've seen these go over
@MRSketch09
13 жыл бұрын
I was always wanted to see one of these up close, because I never got to see how they worked before. THANKS!
@jimmyjennings4089
3 жыл бұрын
I can remember back in the 80's going out on job sites and dumping where the job supervisor was telling me to dump as a driver you were supposed to listen to them yet ive been out on some jobs and the supervisor guiding me into powerlines and having to set in the cab and not jump out until an emerg3crew came out and removed the power line from my trailer, i got were i would tell them if its not safe dont do it yet they would just tell me i had to do what ever they said, i think they have changed that by now.
@t3chw00di
11 жыл бұрын
Wow that's so unstable. You gotta make sure you are damn good and level with one of those. Couldn't use it in cold environments where dirt might stick to one side or the other. I'm a heavy equipment operator, and I've had wagons tip right beside me when they were not quite level, and they are full frame quads. I can't imagine how many of these would be tipping working in the same enviroment.
@Bandsmurf
12 жыл бұрын
I admire the way he dumped .. Lock the trailer, pull the tractor, lock the tractor, pull the trailer, then creep forward.
@Bandsmurf
12 жыл бұрын
They're built really strong! Haha. My grandfather loaded one day and started leaving the mine after he loaded and the rear axle fell off
@AaronSmith-kr5yf
3 жыл бұрын
Man one bad thing about this type of setup is you CANNOT use it on unlevel ground, that trailer way up in the air will flip the whole rig over.
@chrisparker2118
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the truck I just watch tip over while dumping rocks in another video. I've never seen a frameless dump trailer, so I had to look it up and came across this video.
@bomguy999999
10 жыл бұрын
I see alot of opinions below from people who have never used a frameless. Awesome source of info there.
@bayouratt283
10 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@calisukhwinder2956
9 жыл бұрын
Fg
@bayouratt283
9 жыл бұрын
Cali Sukhwinder Care to try that again because that makes no sense.
@asvmanic
11 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone acting so surprised about this trailer? They have been around for a good 10 years already... I see a few of them everyday.
@johnhirsch9
10 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I like this over a tri-axle. I guess if this is all you have in the fleet it makes sense. Sweet looking rig nonetheless. Love the low sides
@oe542
Жыл бұрын
More tonnage
@danielsestina6457
8 жыл бұрын
It seems like there would be a lot of stress on the last axle, and the studs
@tremaynefrost
12 жыл бұрын
W900 I love those kenworth framless trailers are the best kind but hell to dump it the grounds uneven
@TombstoneHeart
6 жыл бұрын
I've used tipping trailers like that one and didn't like them one little bit. One good gust of wind from the side and they fall over. I've never heard of them called a frameless trailer though. Here in Oz, most people call them TOA trailers - ( Tip Over Axle )
@willowsverge3046
3 жыл бұрын
Boy, id say your right about getting blown over! The wind here gusts an awful lot. Im guessing the insurance would be crazy high too.
@jackburton9331
5 ай бұрын
I'd be like, " Yeah , speaking of holding hands. After I dumped another load at your place on the way over here. Your girl held my hand, leaving . By the way you're out if cereal " 😂😂😂
@mozzmann
10 жыл бұрын
Not sure that I'd be dumping under those power lines either. The old adage "Look Up and Live " comes to mind.
@MithleshKumar-hw8lx
6 жыл бұрын
mozzmann hvgh8fbu
@felixralphhenderson4177
7 жыл бұрын
my granpops had a trailer like this on a double drive TK Bedford 330 man that thing could pull.Straight pipe too
@familyclika3120
7 жыл бұрын
felix ralph henderson hcdfr
@felixralphhenderson4177
7 жыл бұрын
family clika ??
@jdeere2141
10 жыл бұрын
Now show one tipping over side-ways....
@aislingbehan1511
9 жыл бұрын
@Theanviljeepjk
5 жыл бұрын
...........
@oe542
Жыл бұрын
Why?
@vlasktom
12 жыл бұрын
@andrzejtrucker a frameless trailer is less stable then a framed trailer. namely because only one axle is on the ground while dumping. depending on the size of the tractor and the amount of dirt and mud on the truck, empty the entire rig weighs between 27,000 and 30,000 lbs
@dakotal4123
10 жыл бұрын
we just bought 14 combines from you guys they work like nothing elas
@chikim9742
6 жыл бұрын
Fkrgug6tydYKIY Tyeyrt
@emd40277
9 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Always fun to watch your stuff. .
@willowsverge3046
3 жыл бұрын
Do you go through a lot more tires on the back axles because of the load weight resting on them so fully like that? Just wondering...i dont drive, so i dont have a clue!
@id10tcertified
7 жыл бұрын
We call it a TOA (Tip Over Axle or Cantilever tipper, ours are mostly tri axle) they save weight but you need to be careful, this guy is an accident waiting to go over. Hold the hand piece and walk the truck till the end of the 2nd stage on the hoist then release it and at the same time put a bit of pressure on the foot brake and pull the trailer in and it leaves a neat pile (this is a mess), only thing is the brakes need to be in good condition so both sides release at the same time otherwise the trailer can twist and go over. Better on airbags as the bags drop and the tip axle sits on rubbers, if on springs you need to be a bit more careful. If the ground is soft then lift the trailer till the tip axle is the only one on the ground and wheel roll it while watching that the ground is all level: if the truck is on soft ground then you can only walk the trailer. The best way is with all the brakes off but it's rarely an option.
@huskypilot6305
4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it cute. Do they make them in adult size, that one only has 18 wheels. Love from Australia 🇦🇺
@1586ian
8 жыл бұрын
We use these for grain but we call the 'tip over axle' in a road train we will haul up to 80 tons of grain
@canadianuserthe
6 жыл бұрын
I'll go with the tried and true design thanks
@iancardwell3877
4 жыл бұрын
We have had these type of trailers for at least the last 30 years, except they are all tri axles, which is norn on all types of trailers in australia
@Poizon2K8
11 жыл бұрын
If you pay attention, the trailer brakes are locked, the truck brakes are not on. The trailer pulls the truck as much as it needs.
@justinmyslive4108
3 жыл бұрын
It's an ongoing battle with dump drivers and operators. I've had an operator tell me the difference between a dump driver and a jack ass is the length of thier ears
@Hellsatanx
12 жыл бұрын
i just had an idea! take a telescopic piston like that and put a bag on the end, and BAM! you have the worlds most redicolous lift-kit suspension
@goatpepperherbaltea7895
3 жыл бұрын
How do hydrologics works like how much pressure is need to lift that that’s so wild
@jeffsink2953
8 жыл бұрын
See the crap us poor truckdrivers have to deal with!!!!! Haha!!! Great videos Chris!!
@limoshannon
5 жыл бұрын
No way, looks treacherous
@casefan14
13 жыл бұрын
That is one nice kenworth!!!!!!
@ronaaserude8225
10 жыл бұрын
IMHO, the savings in weight are no where near enough to offset the increased risk of tipping, not to mention how flimsy that hoist linkage appears... any amount of side slope and that boy is SOL!
@mozzmann
10 жыл бұрын
Bullshit learn to drive and tip properly , even with a full chassis a 40 Ft tipping trailer WILL overbalance just as easy. remember that the outter width of the Trailer tires is about 8 Ft but the CG at full tip can very easily be outside that line resulting in a trailer falling sideways, so simply don't tip on soft or uneven ground and you won't have an issue will you. I dumped Gravel like this for years and never extended to full height as there is no need. Tip to 45 Deg and give the trailer a little jerk backward and tap the brakes gravel will slide out like you would not believe.
@bayouratt283
10 жыл бұрын
Frameless is the only way to go. If I get stuck and there's nobody to push me or pull me out I can usually inch worm my way out with a frameless trailer and I've done it more times than I can count. Pull the tractor brake, stand the trailer up, release the tractor brake and pull the trailer brake and set the trailer down. Another thing is to have a liner, especially when hauling dirt. That helps get the load out easier and keeps material from getting stuck in the nose of the trailer.
@TrangLe-kp4mt
7 жыл бұрын
bayouratt283 y
@naldemisilva5770
6 жыл бұрын
Ron Aaserude j7
@nagrajjangam9061
6 жыл бұрын
Ron Aaserude
@pete359ext
13 жыл бұрын
@Ls7colorado Its a hydraulic pump under the tractor the hydraulic tank is right there behind the cab.
@CarmenFacundo
11 жыл бұрын
I i have 12 years driving framless end dump and maybe 2 o 3 times almost i dropped the trailer so its not so bad!!!!
@TheCitroenman1
6 жыл бұрын
don't blame you standing well away from it
@clifforddgreen1296
2 жыл бұрын
One of the nastiest trailers ever made I think they should never have made them they fall way too easy
@shawnmoore5621
3 жыл бұрын
Those are cool trailers but rather dangerous for the inexperienced
@canvids1
8 жыл бұрын
I can see many bad things that could happen with that setup. (very dangerous equipment for sure)
@jamesdelaney9327
6 жыл бұрын
Wayne Rogers yes sir u right
@vernonyoung9715
2 жыл бұрын
Great job 👍🏾 but dumping like that can cause you to roll it. Due to the fact you locked the tractor brakes in stead of the trailer. Just saying is all. I use it in a landfill and all you need is one soft spot and all you can do is call the wrecker. And I haul steel on concrete pavement and I can tell you I still see them roll. Stay safe out there driver and keep the rubber side down 👍🏾
@mattmcdermott4766
7 жыл бұрын
Did he ever look up for the "Power Lines" up above? !?
@sourbrothers73
3 жыл бұрын
Lol why did you put power lines in quotes? Obviously he did. Not everybody is stupid and bad at their job
@chardie63
11 жыл бұрын
yeah those guys come in our yard n load sand out east ...work out in big sand mine east of city....I get to run the bucket once in a while ...
@rsue65
3 жыл бұрын
My husband had one of those trailers fall on the cab of his truck in a landfill.
@Hoosiertpt
12 жыл бұрын
This setup is so sexy. I want that W9 and trailer!
@zainabdin1123
8 жыл бұрын
what a powerful machine
@joseortiz-kz6vh
7 жыл бұрын
uno de mis camiones favoritos este video lo e visto mas de cincuenta veces💪😎⛽🚦🚛🚚
@jesusolivas4152
6 жыл бұрын
jose ortiz en una hora lo desparrame en una capa de 10 cm
@whatyousaidbud
11 жыл бұрын
So that's a bit over 36T, that seems like a lot of tractor unit for not a lot of capacity, the artics here can weigh 44T / 96800lbs combined, although they can only drag one trailer so I suppose it's swings and roundabouts! Thanks for the reply by the way.
@1586ian
8 жыл бұрын
There good cause it's a lot lighter then a chassie tipper, less tare weight more payload
@Knot222
13 жыл бұрын
Awesome Chris, love your cometary lol.
@roveritis
12 жыл бұрын
i am not in trucking but 22 tonnes seems suitable for 4 axle dumpers EU standard. but think it is easier and better at tipping sideways :) like Australians do on their road trains :)
@evldvl1
8 жыл бұрын
Dozer driver doesn't have the smarts to realise the trucks all bank up at the loading end, whether they be waiting for their turn to load or waiting for a loader full stop. Quarries don't necessarily have a loader sitting at your desired stockpile, waiting for you to drive in, they have other trucks to load and other work to do. There then could be a hold up waiting for your turn on a weigh bridge, causing the trucks to back up again and that's why they arrive within minutes of each other.
@joegoecke9711
5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to bust a stuck load out of that thing, that's for sure. Dry goods only!
@trucker863
11 жыл бұрын
I see this guy around wendell all the time
@HPISFBankrupter
13 жыл бұрын
WOW. I hope this design takes off for all the dirt dummys out there. Im buying a new wrecker just on the hope...
@TrevorDennis100
5 жыл бұрын
This video is nearly as old as I am (well it would be if you multiplied its age by ten and took away ten) but this truck is so totally wrong, I have to say something. It looks like a full 40' end dump trailer, so that's 60-80 cubic yards which Google tells me is 80,000lb plus the weight of the trailer on one axle and four tires. The CoG is crazy high for something that needs to work on dirt sites. You'd want to be damn sure you didn't have soft ground under one side when dumping. Heck, when I looked for an example of one tipping over, I found reports of it happening almost every day. Other's commented about the slow dump cycle. That's coming off your bottom line when paying the driver for a days work. How much weight can they carry anyway? Other videos Chris uploaded about haling stone mention a State legislated 20 tones. Would this axle configuration be allowed more. It looks like it has a side fixed cover, which is good from one point of view, but a PITA for loading over the cover mounted side. The driver was not appreciating Chris's sens of humour by the look of it, so perhaps he was an owner driver regretting his purchase choice. Right. Time to hit fast forward back to 2019
@MotoScootMech
13 жыл бұрын
Such a great design! Its got so many advantages over conventional dump trucks. I don't know if the design is new, but I'm suprised you dont see more of these setups on the road than regular dump trucks... maybe regular dump trucks will be outdated someday? Either way nice vid, keep doing what you love Chris!
@limojag
10 жыл бұрын
I'd been dumped and gone by the time he got it up, that took way too long
@bobgoat5994
5 жыл бұрын
Some men take longer to get it up, dont judge.
@joegoecke9711
5 жыл бұрын
He did the entire dump with the engine idling
@mr.aey3
4 жыл бұрын
With the length of the trailer. The fact that its frame less, next to power lines and very clean id say this guy takes care of his equipment. Measure twice cut once -Speed kills
@andrzejtrucker
13 жыл бұрын
That was certainly interesting to see such a trailer, I wonder if it's easier to put that kind of rig on the side compare to a trailer with a frame and could anyone tell me what's the weight of an empty rig in that configuration?
@tt23abc
2 жыл бұрын
Should be around 35-40k. Maybe a bit less with the fancy trailer. High side end dumps w/ drop & 4 axle tractor little over 40k
@Galaxy2517
11 жыл бұрын
I actually like my frameless East trailer I used to pull...Most of the places I hauled were pretty level anyway...
@chardie63
11 жыл бұрын
Come up to longisland/ NYC n haul 60ton gross on 6axle around here ....Fun allday long
@mpedward2
13 жыл бұрын
alil history... those trailers were origannaly made for hauling corn wheat ect... in the mid west years ago.. i have seen one tip over huling sand ! it only takes a large clump up tat the top to stick. the diver dont see it and BAM! over it goes.. Hopefully no one id hurt and the 5th wheel breaks away but... i'v seen alot of thos trucks get totaled....
@stimpyman007
11 жыл бұрын
Glad we have GINAF in holland !
@thomasnixon7702
9 жыл бұрын
Looks fine but these end dumps roll over when the load sticks and the truck is not dumping on absolutely level ground. The heavy load way up in the air at the front just torques the whole trailer onto its side and destroys it.
@เสาวภาพราหมณ์บัวทอง-ส9ถ
9 жыл бұрын
ฟาน_ _
@markjuhasz1991
8 жыл бұрын
ü úol rrööötú ár őt több öö a magyar nyelvű
@MrPerry61
8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Nixon that's what mirrors are for.
@peteynum1
13 жыл бұрын
That thing goes up high!
@eliewahakoka8680
8 жыл бұрын
wanaume wametengeneza vitu na vinauwezo mkubwa wa kufanya kazi. nimelendezwa na kazi nzuri.
@pullainbaloch715
8 жыл бұрын
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@chubbz817
12 жыл бұрын
@vlasktom Not necessarily a frame less end dump is more stable there is a debate on a Fourm can't member which one but it has to do when the framed end dump is in the air if it begins to wobble even a lil itll come down due to the frame as where the arms on the frameless end dump bend with it to keep it stable but to me the center point and full stance frameless end dump are most stave hands down
@wyattearp1418
Жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!
@Heavytruckphotos
11 жыл бұрын
My buddy over at New York Sand & Stone in Brooklyn puts 100k+ into tri axles
@tcpnetworks
11 жыл бұрын
You unloaded next to power lines?
@bryant1161
8 жыл бұрын
I do it all the time its like everything you gotta becarefull...
@zsoltlukacs8438
11 жыл бұрын
hi,i drive dumper semi in hungary,europe.we hauling 36-42 ton,80000-93000lbs the truck and rigid framed dump trailer empty wt:13,5 t=30000lbs.naturally the official wt limit in hungary 89000lbs.more load,more money!the truck 1 drive axle,trailer 3 axle airspring.today hauling 4x38t 84500lbs basalt rock,colas rock mine to little asphalt factory.from 50 miles.the truck 14 litres in line 6 cyl,400hp 28 years old,but good conditions.wide road everybody!
@marianaalzate3948
12 жыл бұрын
looks as if yanks hate chasis frame trailers ,when it comes to heavy work as tippertrailers would rather work with a strong chasis , bute admire the way of looking to safe weight regards from holland
@AAAyyyGGG
9 жыл бұрын
All that for a liddle pile of dust... was that really 22 tons?
@bayouratt283
9 жыл бұрын
AAAyyyGGG Looks right to me.
@mart_t
9 жыл бұрын
lz
@hoss6br
9 жыл бұрын
nice job!
@triden55
13 жыл бұрын
@Ls7colorado Probably a hydraulic pump underneath the tractor
@twisted5544
8 жыл бұрын
These trucks should only deliver on even lands, they are so dangerous, I refuse to drive them, I stay with the shorter tri-axle version. But to those who do make a living with these you got balls.
@fernandahernandezsanchez6602
8 жыл бұрын
iwpiupup
@MatthewBanchero
11 жыл бұрын
80,000lb combined weight limit, with 34,000lbs allowed per set of tandems.
@whatyousaidbud
11 жыл бұрын
I swear the 8 wheeled rigids here in England can carry 20 ton and are half the size of that, was he not loaded completely?
@michaeldobberstein5365
5 жыл бұрын
We have bridge laws
@carlnapp8673
9 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't do so under that f*** high - Voltage line.
@devinkilgore4114
9 жыл бұрын
Haha
@michaelwood9922
9 жыл бұрын
+Carl Napp DUDE YOU HAVE GOT TO THINK ABOUT HOW FAR U ARE TO YOUR SURRONDINGS
@Deere2154D
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Wood looks close but I've done worse in an excavator. loaded a conveyor on a flat bed between 2 250kv transmission lines
@aujla7564
4 жыл бұрын
@@Deere2154D I've sat on the transmission lines ain't that bad
@MasterPaulR
8 жыл бұрын
Why you guys in USA dont use MAN, Scania, Volvo and other eu trucks without ``nose``? im just curious...
@mattwilliams2162
8 жыл бұрын
Because America has wider roads.
@m1201fb
8 жыл бұрын
+MasterPaulR Different laws/directions. In EU trucks lenght is measured from front bumber to rear bumber. In USA (I might be wrong, correct if) lenght is measured from back of the trucks cabin to a rear bumber. So it doesn´t matter how big is the nose of a truck.
@lookoutman1970
8 жыл бұрын
+Markus K bumper to bumper here
@shawn68able
13 жыл бұрын
aint no feelin", like end dump mobilin" !!!!!!!
@tomjohnson9241
5 жыл бұрын
What happens if the load hangs up high in the trailer.
@mikey9710
5 жыл бұрын
Say bye-bye to your trailer
@ricklane8554
3 жыл бұрын
Justin on the big truck?
@urenco1
8 жыл бұрын
he is gonna get an arc from the high voltage stuff overhead,
@airsoftsnipes100
8 жыл бұрын
can't unless the wire is severed or damaged in some way
@KillerVillnave
5 жыл бұрын
You cant have a arc from that far away... lmao
@betterdays1985
11 жыл бұрын
Sweet Kenworth, not a fan of the frameless dump tho. At the end of the day they were designed to save on weight so I guess it is a give and take.
@captphil4
3 жыл бұрын
surprised the rear tires didn't blow out
@celticbobb
11 жыл бұрын
our 22 tonnes arrive on a tandem axel dump truck..he drove up dumped it and went in like 10 mins..simples ..and his truck was small enough to get down the lane...this thing is a joke anywhere else in the world..looks nice though.
@SuperHennessyvsop
11 жыл бұрын
Is that truck yours and did you buy that cat loader?
@glennnaeyaert866
9 жыл бұрын
Must be bad on the axle?
@stephmmillersm
8 жыл бұрын
the axle is made to do that because as the trailer goes up it pulls closer together to the truck
@anthonyrybczynski5420
7 жыл бұрын
Stephen Miller obviously it has been designed to do that job however it is still transferring all of the load onto one axle. It doesn't matter if the axle is getting closer to the lift cylinder because the point being made here is that all of the weight is usually spread over several axles meaning in this design there is more weight on one axle than you would normally have.
@garethifan1034
11 жыл бұрын
looks like a very unstable combination..ready to make a fool of any driver
@mikeseguin6443
4 жыл бұрын
...
@tsmall07
4 жыл бұрын
Looks much more stable than a typical dump semi configuration.
@CanStripey
12 жыл бұрын
Convenient to grease the trailer brakes with it in the dumped position..haha
@farmall51
13 жыл бұрын
They scare me id rather have a trailer dump than the frameless .. they don't like the wind .. Ive seen one go over on asphalt the wind got up and there she went..
@sisutrucks
13 жыл бұрын
looks scary as hell, and cant be good for the suspention on the axle taking all the load from the trailer. is there anyone using dump semis with sliding axles over there?:)
@canadacatalyst
13 жыл бұрын
wow, no frame looks scary!
@MultiCrusher2
10 жыл бұрын
the only good thing about frameless dump trailers is that they are light
@mozzmann
10 жыл бұрын
The weight saving allows for much less wear and tear on equipment, much more profitable due to the weight saving.
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