What's the big deal with diversity? Guido wants 2 female core devs by next year, which is fine, this is a message to women saying "there are no barriers for you based on gender", so women who might previously have been intimidated might now apply, but then Guido continues "even if I have to train them myself". Why not train men? Why not train Australians? Why not train politicians, or project managers, or rocket scientists? If a person, regardless of gender, position, nationality, ethnicity, age, etc., is inadequately qualified to be a python core dev, why should any subsection of humanity get a free pass to training with the BDFL himself? There are very few women playing EVE-online, but not because it's a toxic environment, or whatever, just 'cause it appeals to guys more for some reason, and it's not a big issue. I feel like the core dev team might be homogenously male for similar reasons; the female half of humanity isn't as interested in Python as the male half, meaning more males by number are trying to be core devs (or just normal devs or whatever), so if there's a one in a million chance of someone having the skills and midset to be a core dev, that one is more likely to be male.
@TPHRyan
9 жыл бұрын
Asdayasman Because the first paragraph of your comment. You've explained it yourself. I think this is more important than you may think.
@Asdayasman
9 жыл бұрын
TheInnocence111 Didn't you read the rest of the comment? I'm fine with the implications of the first paragraph up to "but then".
@laike9m
9 жыл бұрын
Asdayasman Well, why do companies want more female workers? Same reason.
@Asdayasman
9 жыл бұрын
Yao Zuo Because it looks bad if they're not diverse, and can lead to a toxic environment. Python dev is not a toxic environment, and code quality matters. If two coders are up for a task with one spot open, and one gets it just because of their gender, that's stupid. If the two are equally skilled, it should be a coin flip. Gender is irrelevant when the mind is in question.
@BayesianHorse
9 жыл бұрын
Asdayasman , if you don't know what the big deal is about diversity, just research it a little. You will find that tech culture often drives women away, but often also those of color. That means less developers for a particular community. It also means that a toxic culture is masked by certain people just staying the hell away, which is doubly bad: The community can't get rid of the toxicity and looses potential members. If in like 5 years gender diversity isn't a problem in Python any more, maybe Guido will train two black/hispanic core developers, if there aren't already.
@antquinonez
7 жыл бұрын
Diversity = Health. Web programming, GUI programming, mobile, system, network, sys admin, scientists, engineers, professional programmers, hackers, kids, students, adults, women, minorities. Touch all groups, bring all into your umbrella. Python is as successful as it is because it's achieved a high degree of acceptance across many groups...Don't ask why it's needed; ask what the benefits have been!
@TPHRyan
9 жыл бұрын
"5000 lines of CSS and 100 lines of Python" So accurate.
@Oathonman
Ай бұрын
🎉 1:36
@newsletter4826
8 жыл бұрын
I want the first question to be from a person under five feet!
@gnerkus
8 жыл бұрын
While diversity should be encouraged, the intense focus on it is slowing the Python community down. Why not simply ensure the Python community is not toxic?
@Ram_Malisetti
8 жыл бұрын
I have some time left in my day (3-4 hours) apart from my daily job. If there is any python project requirement for part time participation. Please let me know, i will join and start working. Thanks, Ram
@Ram_Malisetti
8 жыл бұрын
Anyone could you please point me to opensource projects(Python /PERL / Shell / DevOps) to participate and contribute. I have 4 years of experience in software industry on above technologies. Thanks, Ram
@werunsha
9 жыл бұрын
Valuable key note!
@suntukumar9391
2 жыл бұрын
Bhai
@dinkleberg794
6 жыл бұрын
Anyone know how many PyPy packages are ported for python 3 now?
@Mid.G.
9 жыл бұрын
Diversity is awesome -- no doubt about it, but meanwhile the 2vs3 fragmentation is a huge issue for the community and so is cpython's slow VM. Focus should be placed on Pypy, python in the browser projects, python on mobile projects. That's what people are building nowadays webapps and mobile apps. Pypi has 55K projects, and NPM has 142K (yes some are just clientside) -- but that is a little scary. No one wants to see python be relegated to backend scripts and the scientific community, do they?
@vi4m
9 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Swift will be open-sourced till the end of year, now offers sexy, readable syntax with tons of features, screaming fast runtime, and almost-like-python REPL. Not mentioning Go-lang static one-file deployments, and order of magnitude faster runtimes with the interpreted language compilation speed. So yeah, instead of focusing on engineering side cooperating with pypy, we should focus on the gay rights/diversity to end up like Mozilla...
@mohamedhamza456
8 жыл бұрын
I make a living in Morocco thanks to this man, after god.
@mujkocka
4 жыл бұрын
So awesome about guido wanting to add women to the core team!
@suntukumar9391
2 жыл бұрын
M
@crimsun7186
9 жыл бұрын
Why I have the feeling that people will fork Python 2.x instead of porting their packages to 3.x?
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