It’s an effective technique/tactic . There is a difference however between the surveillance video and the demonstration video in terms of position of the victim. In the surveillance video the victims hips are on top of (and almost beyond ) the attackers shoulders and she is practically upside down whereas in the demonstration the victims hips/center are at the attackers chest and she is facing the attacker and is more easily able to quickly and effectively access the neck and apply the choke as well as secure her legs . I like the technique/tactic but “pressure test it” as close as possible to replicate the actual incident .
@wlbernie
2 жыл бұрын
Not going to be hard to slide your hips down a few inches.
@g.h.6990
2 жыл бұрын
@@wlbernie my point was, it’s about where your “center” is at which effects your weight distribution. You can’t easily slide your hips down a few inches if you’re already upside down . It makes application significantly more difficult. I’m not dissing the technique I’m saying that these are not “subtle differences”.
@Kazeshrike
2 жыл бұрын
You're right. In jiujitsu, a single inch can make a big difference. In this case, the victim's center of gravity was well past the abductor's shoulder and he already had an overhook on both legs.
@g.h.6990
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kazeshrike Absolutely. In addition if the attackers head neck were readily accessible as a target I would also advise women to be attacking the subjects vision and burying their thumbs in to his eyes up to the second knuckle. Even a minor eye poke is going to potentially scratch his cornea and cause an instinctive withdrawal reflex and interrupt his ability to see and coordinate his attack any further . Violence is about “cause and effect” and in a violent “asocial attack” you need to cause an injury.
@vietpham429
2 жыл бұрын
Reverse inverted triangle
@91lilfrozone23
2 жыл бұрын
if you watch closer the actual footage shows the kidnapper grabbing from the feet and not the waist, so the woman wouldn't have been able to wrap her arm around the neck
@Ghanemq8
2 жыл бұрын
true
@mr.niceguy777
2 жыл бұрын
Then you reach back and cross face with a hand or wrist until your waist is on the shoulder. She looked as small as a child so probably wouldn't have worked anyways.
@FentoZ
2 жыл бұрын
That bs, video happened in my city, he was carrying his wife, and they both were on drugs that made it seem like a kidnap
@elmodesto8635
2 жыл бұрын
Grab the knee or leg
@OoO-rf2gt
2 жыл бұрын
Shhhhhhhhhh you'll burst the empowerment vibe 😂
@slicric131
2 жыл бұрын
Redo this but actually replicate the position. I really want to see how anyone can escape.
@xy5844
2 жыл бұрын
i can be the one of the bystanders not doing anything
@Ben-hd7xd
2 жыл бұрын
Grab the testes twist and squeeze as hard as possible
@cybereus836
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-hd7xd goodluck getting to them from the position the mady is in the video.
@bloemuit5255
2 жыл бұрын
What does she do if he slams her on the ground if she attempts a choke?
@slicric131
2 жыл бұрын
@@bloemuit5255 take the L. You’re suppose to release the choke if that happens but I’ve seen both where ppl get knocked out from the slam and where the slam fails to knock the person out and now the choke is in deeper. Comes down to luck I guess.
@sistematico17
2 жыл бұрын
You should teach the follow up to avoid the slam when applying your technique
@ETBrooD
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's easily a 20% or greater chance that there's gonna be a body slam. And that's a true game ender.
@MrRolyat98
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this but that might be what locking the legs are for. And securing the head might mean the attacker face plants on the concrete if he tries to go Rampage Jackson.
@sistematico17
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrRolyat98 still... a slam from that height straight into concrete, even if you have his head locked and close guard, air would be all pushed out from your lungs and your head bounce on the concrete
@dravenwag
2 жыл бұрын
@@ETBrooD not if their head is going to hit the concrete first, then it's a game ender for the person doing the slam which is usually what happens when someone does that
@dravenwag
2 жыл бұрын
@@sistematico17 if their head is locked then they are going to smash their own skull against the street. And I doubt a random kidnapper is going to have the wrestling skill to adequately do a skillful body slam that severely hurts the other person and puts their self away from any harm.
@Ask4This
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong hold, the guy in the video is grabbing her by the legs and if you tried to choke the guy he would body slam you or worse.
@devonleavitt1771
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I don’t understand sometimes as a martial arts practitioner, I expect others who wear the same uniform to have common sense.
@Let-Me-Cook69
2 жыл бұрын
There's was a girl in my city that got murdered during the kidnapping because she tried something similar to this and since he was a bigger man he poked his head out and literally powerbomb her cracking her head. He got life.
@scheimong
2 жыл бұрын
That's unfortunate. But the reality is whatever technique you've got, there's always going to be a risk associated with putting up a fight.
@slicric131
2 жыл бұрын
Go out fighting on your own terms or get kidnapped and god knows what gets done to you (torture, rape, etc.) Some moves are smarter than others but man, if it works, you win.
@devonleavitt1771
2 жыл бұрын
@@slicric131 but this isn’t the correct way to fight back, this is literally asking human nature to be slammed. If she did the choke the opposite way, think like a reverse cross face she would fall onto him as they go down. And don’t wrap the legs it creates leverage and momentum for him to slam you.
@fearlessali2852
Жыл бұрын
It's not just about living ,it's about Fighting till death and not surrendering .So she got released from a life full of trouble ,but she tried atleast , didn't give up!! P: S: She was killed but she fought bravely and courageously!!So she Won!!
@fearlessali2852
Жыл бұрын
@@scheimong nobody is find if FIGHTING but everybody in danger need to Defend themselves in some way or the other esp.Women in general!!
@peterleiza4351
2 жыл бұрын
The move works well as long as you execute it right away
@unitedstatesdale
2 жыл бұрын
Reach down , grab the back waist band with both hands, Pull up until his testicles are between his shoulder blades. *Works everytime*
@joeyripswell
2 жыл бұрын
you two rock!! keep it up!! power couple for realz ❤️
@tje5553
2 жыл бұрын
Squeeze for 6 minute until he takes a forever nap ladiea
@xanderhall8366
2 жыл бұрын
Lookin like shrek with fiona on his shoulder after he rescued her from the castle😂
@allisonjones5311
2 жыл бұрын
Oml😂😂
@TheMastergabe
2 жыл бұрын
That choke would almost never work on someone bigger than you. It gives you better reaction when he puts you down but that's it unless you can drop on some grass
@vuk8550
2 жыл бұрын
If you just manage to get a quick grip of your arm and under his chin, that is, apply direct pressure on the throat and arteries, guy goes nap nap 100%. You'd have to be really weak or him really strong for it not to work. Just clenching your neck muscles isn't enough.
@stupidandboot4507
2 жыл бұрын
It's just a normal guillotine and it's a pretty effective choke. I'm only 143 lbs and I use it pretty often on guys that are bigger The trick is locking it up before they tuck their chin but in this situation they probably wouldn't do that since they're trying to carry you
@TheMastergabe
2 жыл бұрын
@@stupidandboot4507 it's probably the least effective choke known to man. Wtf are you talking about
@medicineandbrazilianjiujit8511
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for caring enough about people to take the time and effort to make these videos. You both, and Ryron, really make a huge difference. Nik
@BasedChad1
2 жыл бұрын
Good technique. Honestly the only way this goes bad is if you get hurled into the ground before you lock your legs
@devonleavitt1771
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great way to get slammed on your head on concrete. You should do the choke the opposite way that way you fall onto him and not the other way around.
@LionMillcomics
2 жыл бұрын
"until he takes a nap." Hell nah dog. You hold that shit 'till he qualifies for a dirt nap.
@kedabro1957
2 жыл бұрын
No ... traffickers work in teams. Run tf away.
@michaelt3614
2 жыл бұрын
Keep the 9mm on you. Traffickers are never alone so having 12+ friends in a clip should be optimal defense
@hotredtiger316
2 жыл бұрын
Confession: I wasn’t thinking three-dimensionally until you guys pulled a T-City to remind me. Thanks!
@blank5659
2 жыл бұрын
Creative, but you better have an answer for him passing out crashing on top of you.
@vegeta8169
2 жыл бұрын
Aka " How to get body slammed"
@robertwilliams5015
2 жыл бұрын
He's going to slam you as SOON as you attempt to apply the choke.......guaranteed.
@TheDazzler420
2 жыл бұрын
If man intends to handle her like he wanted, no woman can stop him
@fearlessali2852
Жыл бұрын
Bullshit👎
@fearlessali2852
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that every person is different while facing the attack.The women who were attacked were never prepare to defend themselves physically and mentally. It's not about man or woman ,it's just about DEFENDING oneself in any situation. Man might boast to get biologically advantaged but Woman being biologically disadvantaged have achieved more ,are mentally strong and by that will power ,they overcome their disadvantage and have courage. Women are not Fortunate as men but they have a Strong Fighting Comeback Power.They go against the waves. And men have everything in their favour biologically, religeously and socially ,that's why they can't fight Mentally and commit suicide more often ...though their omen on other hand are more stronger than men to deal ,manage the trauma ,they are more courageous than men ,they don't have anything in their favour , biologically, religeously and socially and despite of all that they fight against all odds!! P:S: It's not about winning or losing ,it's about Courage and women are Courageous Fighter and Battler in everyday situation being a simple, ordinary Human!! End Quote
@TheDazzler420
Жыл бұрын
@@fearlessali2852 General nominal is what we are speaking here about, not exceptions, if thats the case, then everything comes down to personal experience.
@albinomma
2 жыл бұрын
The chick being kidnapped is way too high up to use this technique
@era3149
2 жыл бұрын
OMG AN EFFECTIVE WOMEN SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUE
@thedarwinist672
Жыл бұрын
6 minutes? I heard 6 minutes.
@derrickpigatt5195
8 ай бұрын
It works only thing is be careful and let go if they try to slam you
@commiesarehorrible7622
2 жыл бұрын
This could save your life.
@michaelthomas366
2 жыл бұрын
So important to know self
@107Kawal
2 жыл бұрын
Realistically though if he’s a bigger guy he’s just gonna slam you on the ground and put his arm on your chin and push down with a lot of Power. If it’s a big enough guy he can crush ur neck
@TheCimmerian6
2 жыл бұрын
Good advice, I’m sure it’ll work
@beyondbackwater4933
2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the kidnapped woman? That's disgusting people didn't do anything.
@bigbenpbr
2 жыл бұрын
Then when he slams you on the ground you die, because there is not a "no slamming" rule.
@recellevlog5624
2 жыл бұрын
Good job,,, its a good technique i like it.
@stewiepantsoutdooradventui3254
2 жыл бұрын
What if the slam you on the concrete
@sirslaughter00
2 жыл бұрын
1) the two girls in the video are in very different positions 2) if the guy is much stronger (or even moderately stronger) he would just slam the girl down if he started to get choked so I’m not sure about this especially on concrete
@dravenwag
2 жыл бұрын
If he slams her he's going to smash his skull open. There's tons of footage of guys knocking themselves out on a soft mat from doing this to people who put them in a chokehold like this one. Being stronger doesnt mean anything because all you need to be is strong enough to lift the other person.
@cybereus836
2 жыл бұрын
@@dravenwag have you ever took anyone to the ground before? She (in the surveillance footage) looks like a child and maneuvering her would not be that hard.
@CovertExpertiseArtiMarziali
2 жыл бұрын
Gracie Self defense will always end up to the floor i presume
@kghkfyxk
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you just get slammed
@TheGroovyJones
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, if you were in a MMA match instead of a kidnapping. He's trying to take the person somewhere else not put them down where he picked them up.
@twinsunpredator7998
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGroovyJones no , if you connect well , arm deep in , shoulder behind hair line , very tigh , wrap the leg , pull that neck , he will come with you , it's mathematic , even if he try the slam , he ll be sleeping before you know it , and if you do it well , he will smash his own face into the floor .... i was skeptical too but BJJ works for real
@pablo.987
2 жыл бұрын
Even though you have a killer guillotine is very probably that you end up getting slammed against the floor , specially with that weight difference
@User36282
2 жыл бұрын
@@twinsunpredator7998 You should really take some classes on writing and grammar. What you wrote is utterly horrendous to read.
@Steve-O_462
Жыл бұрын
Why would someone "abduct" a person and carry them TOWARD the front of the store?
@gonorrheadischarges3021
2 жыл бұрын
Guys: don't do that!but just in case...drop on your back...but the proper technique calls for a club and dragging all the way to the cave!
@aarondaniels1602
2 жыл бұрын
It could work, but what if he slams you, or falls back cause he realized your head will hit first if your focused on the neck, and not everyone has good guillotines, a person who doesn’t know just squeezes and if they ain’t got the arteries locked off they ain’t putting him to sleep fast enough.
@naturalnaturalbodybuilder
Жыл бұрын
Nice, but what about slams
@georgetate2320
2 жыл бұрын
Go for the full 2 minutes
@mattdeschamps4025
2 жыл бұрын
Rener is a lucky man he gets to do that anytime straight to the bedroom lol
@fearlessali2852
Жыл бұрын
What a slutty statement! By the way , you didn't see the video what his wife did🤣🤣🤣
@YoniNadi
2 жыл бұрын
All women who are healthy; and physically fit should be carrying one; or two tiger claws in their hands; and ready to use whenever they are walking around by themselves; or whenever they have a friend; or two walking with them.
@alexandercaicedo3509
2 жыл бұрын
Why can't the kidnapper pick the victim up and slam her
@mrchoon2010
2 жыл бұрын
If he slams you on your back, it could shatter your spine, surely
@allisonjones5311
2 жыл бұрын
Truu
@barangol3478
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@kanghwanlee3
2 жыл бұрын
what do you if the attacker slams the victim into the asphalt head first?
@basherdoesyt5807
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing, you are either unconscious or dead
@devonleavitt1771
2 жыл бұрын
@@basherdoesyt5807 that’s why you don’t learn martial arts on the internet, this shit will get you killed. The choke does work in reverse tho, only Bc you can prevent the slam and fall on top of him.
@powellbrenters2252
2 жыл бұрын
Why would you lock your legs? Wouldn’t that leave you more susceptible to being slammed? Genuine question
@lennaymaboyyy4848
2 жыл бұрын
gives you more power and leverage in the choke, without the hooks being in, I doubt an average females arms would be strong enough
@Scrotumlips
2 жыл бұрын
Kidnapped his gf...
@DeusEx.Machina
2 жыл бұрын
How to prevent someone from escaping while you carry them on your shoulder : If the abductee tries to wrap their hands around your neck like the girl in the video, use your left arm to push their body away, let your right arm escape and wrap it around their neck then do a back flip, they will face plant.
@allisonjones5311
2 жыл бұрын
Bro😒
@fearlessali2852
Жыл бұрын
The attacker has safely people people picked up the girl so that she can't rescue herself from any position. P: S: Please tell to defend according to victims vulnerable position in the video.
@spencestep1998
2 жыл бұрын
Kinda weird that this is coming from the gracie family. It is a legitimate choke, however you need lots of practice to develop the technique and a little bit of grip strength to actually pull it off. Otherwise your choke will be loose, you won’t squeeze correctly, you could get your grip broken, you wont position yourself correctly, etc etc etc
@dravenwag
2 жыл бұрын
even if they can't do it that well it severely limits their ability to effectively move and see
@zamphox
2 жыл бұрын
what if he tucks his neck doe
@patrickmalarkeyanoldirishm646
2 жыл бұрын
If you can get behind some guy, get under his chin with your forearm, and wrap your legs around his waist. He's not going to be able to support you and his own weight, especially short of air. As he and you drop to the ground, you'll lose a little of your chokehold on him, so get prepared to kick with the back of your heel to the "soft targets" of his abdomen and/or pelvis. That will take most of the fight out of him, leaving you free to re-establish that chokehold. Quite likely he won't try that with a lesser.prepared women for years to come, but if he does; shoulders dislocate, elbows and knees hyperextenf easy enough, and the gut-wall ruptures in several.places. All of which are debilitating injuries, such that he won't be in business anymore.🥋👣
@kuraidamage6739
2 жыл бұрын
What if the guy has a strong neck and he pulls down his pants because your legs are already open? Most people do this when you are alone so this could be possible and all he has to do is look down and you can't choke him.
@kuraidamage6739
2 жыл бұрын
And what if he has neck protection
@L2O2V2E
2 жыл бұрын
By the way that was her boyfriend they were in an argument and he picked her up and forcefully took her. Look it up on the Internet
@user-bw2is2kd4l
Жыл бұрын
Throw em
@axmax7805
2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that
@doubletapthat2183
2 жыл бұрын
What if he’ slams her
@allisonjones5311
2 жыл бұрын
How would I know this works
@BamBam-wh7nt
2 жыл бұрын
Good point, if it doesn't work, you won't find out until it's too late.
@vconsumer
2 жыл бұрын
practice with someone
@geronimojiujitsu9541
2 жыл бұрын
Go sign up at a local Brazilian Jiu Jitsu school, or a legit MMA gym. That will get you the proper training and time in that will protect you for life. Practicing this one technique will only apply to that one situation and position. Training over time you will not be a victim. And no one will be every trying this on you because you will have the confidence and knowledge to carry yourself in a way that no kidnapper would attempt to mess with. IF the first school or gym doesnt vibe right or seem like they are legit try another if they are in your area. Good luck. stay safe.
@BamBam-wh7nt
2 жыл бұрын
@@geronimojiujitsu9541 BJJ training is great, but not in this situation, because slams are not allowed in BJJ. If this works for you in BJJ class, then you will be confident to try it, but in the streets you will 100% get slammed if you did the technique like in the gym.
@muaythaikicks3418
2 жыл бұрын
@@BamBam-wh7nt of it doesn't work then just go ragdoll or try to go stiff
@YoniNadi
2 жыл бұрын
By standers stood by, why? I’m sure that there was at least one male bystander that could have interfered with the kidnapping by going after the kidnapper.
@Justinsox39
2 жыл бұрын
Nice I’ll teach this to my daughter
@williamkingdon6350
2 жыл бұрын
Make sure that she learns how to squeeze the right areas of the neck, otherwise it won't do jack
@samgomez2088
2 жыл бұрын
Great advice, until you make him mad and he slams you full force into concrete and you never wake up. These guard-pullers who practice 100% of the time on 2 inch mats are delusional, and have no clue how out-of-touch with reality they've become 😂😂😂
@thecasual1011
2 жыл бұрын
What other choice do you have in that situation
@aneessaaghniya9931
2 жыл бұрын
Until his take a nap or until she got slammed on the concrete and die cuz she has no experience
@2tar84
2 жыл бұрын
damn someone shouldve taught peach this. But she probably already knew..
@Pug351
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be good if you actually choked the kidnapper out and he fell backwards breaking the victims neck.
@lennaymaboyyy4848
2 жыл бұрын
release the hooks
@carlsutherland3730
2 жыл бұрын
The woman should have been working her body down his body towards the legs. Tie up the legs so he can't run off with her. Also this could buy time for someone else to come help, or call 911.
@yaniskrenenou4398
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and after back flip until home
@DijoevyCrew
2 жыл бұрын
or until the suspect slams your head all over the ground hmmm🤔
@DijoevyCrew
2 жыл бұрын
oh ah by the way...wrong self defense technic
@user-xt6xu5fm5i
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't work most of the time The man can just knock you out so just carry a weapon
@RodrigoPreyes
2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy. I don't know about this. Without proper practice, the woman that tries this technique could be slammed to the concrete hard
@mineofitsown
2 жыл бұрын
Real life = ibjjf Cuz who in their right mind would slam someone into concrete?
@cheesegyoza
2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you reach two fingers into his nose as deep as you can I guarantee you he’s gonna let you go a lot faster than that .
@viktor7208
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahhaa O homem vai é se jogar no chão com ela. Ela vai bater a cabeça no chão duro e fim de combate
@jameslaspesa6834
2 жыл бұрын
Oss
@Phoenix-dq2uo
2 жыл бұрын
Show Gwen
@peupleelu1766
2 жыл бұрын
It's doesn't work like that in the real life.
@carloslozada470
2 жыл бұрын
She has perfect feet
@wwhs1928
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
2 жыл бұрын
B S .. LOL
@TheCimmerian6
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, and the guy isn’t going to stop and let you get him into that hold like the guy in the video is, this is bs
@hughgrection9378
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr 😂
@nikitag3348
2 жыл бұрын
Too difficult, it wouldn't work. You have to attack the eyes, maybe. Avarage woman isn't strong enough to strangle an average man. Or you can buy a gas cylinder and don't waste the time on self-defense exercises. Chip and effective.
@user-gu3ku5wy6k
10 ай бұрын
What is this too fat and is an old man the stairs at you when you go down the road cause that has happened to me no joke literally today
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