I feel like Tank Destroyer would be worthy if it's also effective against building. Feel wrong when a high caliber cannon does less damage against building than GI's heavy machine gun.
@MaxRavenclaw
2 жыл бұрын
It makes sense if you consider the TD's weapon to be a HV gun shooting solid, AP. Compared to that, other tanks may be shooting some kind of HE.
@askkutay
2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxRavenclaw in no world an infantry machine gun being more effective than a high calliber tank gun against heeps of concrete make sense. A battalion of deutsclands finest wont be able to kill an elite tanya. Its not like they wanted it to make sense
@MaxRavenclaw
2 жыл бұрын
@@askkutay Yes. I wasn't comparing it with that. Was talking in general By makes sense i meant it makes sense its bad not that it's worse than the mg
@FluffySylveonBoi
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, you can't make these comparisons because in older C&C games, missiles are always ineffectice against soldiers and they can tank more than 10 of them, and they die by one flame thrower and we got futuristic technology in play as well xD For example chronosphere kills infantry but not tank drivers.
@MaxRavenclaw
2 жыл бұрын
@@FluffySylveonBoi I think it's meant to show a lack of accuracy in the case of the missiles. IIRC, the original CnC and Red Alert 1 had rockets/missiles be more effective against infantry, and even guns were relatively OK. Infantry was super squashy back then. RA2/Tiberian Sun is what changed it so missiles and cannons do some kind of anti-armour damage. But yeah, it's mostly game ballance. You could say the armour is protecting the crews. It'd be more interesting if you had open top or similar vehicles get teleported.
@Marinealver
2 жыл бұрын
Turns out the best counter to an apocalypse tank, is another apocalypse tank.
@dracmeister
2 жыл бұрын
Guardian IFV, Guardian GI in Battle Fort say hi. This is assuming you have a modicum of micro and kiting. Honorable Mentions being: Masterminds and Yuri Clones, Magnetron stun lock + Gatling, Rhino spam.
@janmichaelderoca3207
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah right
@dhdyfufu2904
2 жыл бұрын
Apocalypse is suck stop crying 1 year old kid
@mikuhatsune8121
Жыл бұрын
Stop crying 1 year old kid
@squishymusic9723
2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly close! Also, nice I was about to suggest price matching in vs
@mattyyoung349
2 жыл бұрын
Well that was a rollercoaster of a ride.
@SoldierOfFate
2 жыл бұрын
The Tank Destroyer needs a range increase and be at least decent against buildings to be remotely useful. They serve no purpose when Mirage and Prism Tanks exist.
@someguy5444
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair prism tanks are super op.
@mikuhatsune8121
2 жыл бұрын
Prism tanks is the best
@mwperk02
2 жыл бұрын
@@someguy5444 best unit in the game. A mass of them will kill anything that gets too close.
@someguy5444
2 жыл бұрын
@@mwperk02 they really could use a 25% range reduction to be balanced. They just melt steel beams with jet fuel every time 😂
@mwperk02
2 жыл бұрын
@@someguy5444 I'd say a dmg reduction vs light and heavy vehicle armor types so they can't melt tanks would be sufficient
@tamabiidvonpee7276
2 жыл бұрын
fucking amazing!! i followed all your videos on these tests and i decide to play this game again after 10 yrs!!!
@Finedemagister78
2 жыл бұрын
I like how robot tank have 3 star😂
@GreenElf
2 жыл бұрын
i was thinking... No but 5 seconds after.. Yes. the reason is... Making non elite in editor does not give them any benefits in Game(no hp regen, no armor, no atk, nothing ) so why not.. it's just for visuals. But i'm not sure if it's for all units
@Cracker_Smacker
2 жыл бұрын
Tank destroyer : I fear no man but that thing **Ore miner** It's scare me
@robertfalk3767
2 жыл бұрын
Man, that elite tank destroyer is a fucking beast.
@johnlee7699
Жыл бұрын
Especially against those Slave Miners!!!
@seba1435
2 жыл бұрын
That was interesting
@pinroshan020
2 жыл бұрын
Never ever underestimate the power of tank destroyers.
@robertstan298
2 жыл бұрын
They're pretty bad in non-specialized squads and really only good in big tank only battles (which don't really happen all that much under regular play). A handful of flak troopers will shit all over them, before they can even get to the enemy's armor.
@Dembilaja
2 жыл бұрын
I like design, and I like role of the Tank Destroyer, but it feels kind a redundant when there's Mirage Tank in game used by the same faction.
@Doflaminguard
2 жыл бұрын
Prism Tanks actually building destroyers. They just deal so much damage to units too when gathered.
@redstonehero7944
2 жыл бұрын
@@Doflaminguard individually, prisms are bad, but in groups, their splash damage makes them worthwhile. If you somehow get a firepower crate on 5elites, they can solo entire BF/apoc armies
@mikuhatsune8121
2 жыл бұрын
RedstoneHero noshit sherlock prism tanks is the best in this game
@Dembilaja
2 жыл бұрын
@@Doflaminguard idk what that has to do with anything.
@redstonehero7944
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikuhatsune8121 not really, they’re highly vulnerable to IC anything bc of their speed. Unlike mirage tanks who can run away better.
@machine3589
2 жыл бұрын
TD did better than I imagined.
@tomassvida335
2 жыл бұрын
Faster weapon loading gives the Destroyer an advantage, but the larger caliber of the Apocalypse is better against infantry and some targets. I prefer to use battalions of rhyno tanks supported by a high number of conscripts and a fast half-truck anti-aircraft unit in reserve.
@Vadim-id1kv
2 жыл бұрын
A main advantage of the Apocalypse is a ability to rotate his turret and shoot while moving.
@ILoveNigga
2 жыл бұрын
@@Vadim-id1kv Apocalypse can't shoot whlie moving. It can only rotate its turret.
@MaxRavenclaw
2 жыл бұрын
That was pretty much the meta back in the day, wasn't it?
@indahf.freztiyana824
2 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveNigga yes it can, basically any tank can do it...
@askkutay
2 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveNigga It is able to do so
@MusicHavenSG
2 жыл бұрын
Should add on, 1 Apoc vs 1 TD and 1 Apoc vs 2 TD completely stock without veterancy upgrades. Then Elite TD vs stock Apoc.
@tomassvida335
2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that can stop the onslaught of a mass of conscripts and numerous Rhynotank battalions are well-used Prism tanks. A platoon of Apocalypse tanks can be key due to their good survival ability. However, the Soviet main battle tank is Rhyno.
@wilt1435
2 жыл бұрын
A single seal in a IFV can delete infantry instantly. Guardian GIs in Battle Fortress can kill Rhinos quite well. You can also just skip the IFV and put the seal into Battle Fortress
@RedShocktrooperRST
2 жыл бұрын
Huh. I swore the Tank Destroyer had a longer range than an Apocalypse, but a shorter range than a base defense. Such that in a cluster of units, consisting of Grizzly tanks, Prism tanks, and itself, it would sit in the 'middle' of the formation.
@ruddyxmax
Жыл бұрын
On the opposite the Apoc has a firing range larger than the Destroyer.
@barrickfischer
2 жыл бұрын
Apocalypse has longer range and decent fp. Tank destroyers are artilleries specialized in destroying tanks but has shorter range
@Blaze-gc1cp
2 жыл бұрын
FIRST!!
@MosoKaiser
2 жыл бұрын
OT, but looking at this got me wondering why they never bothered to fix such an obvious visual goof with the TD: both the projectile and the muzzle flash (when elite) aren't aligned with the cannon barrel, but spawned under it.
@llSuperSnivyll
2 жыл бұрын
Well, if they didn't fix the Lasher Tank having a second turret when it should have one...
@DreadGrimReaper
2 жыл бұрын
Prism tank vs Tesla tank next~ please and thank you~~~
@AdmiralStoicRum
Жыл бұрын
It looks like the slave minor counts more in as a building.
@robertstan298
2 жыл бұрын
IDK why you never tast kill races also agaist infantry and/or defensive buildings. Best 1-go kill race would probably be a armor/infantry/def building intermixed (but I know the columns would be pretty long haha)
@christhe95irrelevant98
2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but can it say: Soviet Power Supreme?
@kiyokodyele
2 жыл бұрын
"nothing left but junk"
@jardy3597
2 жыл бұрын
Seems like too often the kill speed is heavily determined by unit speed, rather than damage. Would be great to be able to remove that from the tests
@GreenElf
2 жыл бұрын
that is true, i will try to change that in the next video/s ...so next up it will be "apoca vs td" - close range
@egyeneskifli7808
2 жыл бұрын
And why is this a problem? You know why the Hellcat was the best american (3") TD in WWII, and not the Wolverine? Despite its puny armor. The answer is simple: the Hellcat was way faster! It was able to be where it is needed, meanwhile the Wolverine most of the time arrived when it was too late. Especially after the 76 mm Shermans became more and more common. The Hellcat was almost faster off-road than the Wolverine on road.
@Nod_Soldier
2 жыл бұрын
@@egyeneskifli7808 and judging by Soviet tanks, often because of the caliber of the gun (and its destructive power), tanks were considered stronger, for example, the KV-2 (which was mainly against buildings) turned tanks into TRASH, and a faster IS just punched the same tanks and required more forces to destroy the same tank
@samiamrg7
2 жыл бұрын
But a speedier unit being able to kill faster because of it’s speed/acceleration is very important in an actual game scenario.
@Doflaminguard
2 жыл бұрын
Tank Destroyer just have higher attack speed and movespeed.
@2slow2survive
3 ай бұрын
interesting. the destroyer make with one bullet nearly the same damage as the apo with his 2 bullets (against vehicles)
@tomassvida335
2 жыл бұрын
Rhino/Rhyno sorry guys for my i/y grammar but the idea is correct.
@elie955eai
2 жыл бұрын
Third
@kiyokodyele
2 жыл бұрын
the only thing I complain about tank destroyers is that they cannot fire while they're moving
@ruddyxmax
Жыл бұрын
The apoc has a larger range than the destroyer, but move slower.
@anonnimoose7987
2 жыл бұрын
They need double the range of an apocalyse
@reapertheone2348
2 жыл бұрын
Elite tank destroyer was kinda speedier than apoc
@Doflaminguard
2 жыл бұрын
Has an increased attack speed on Elite, Apoc doesnt, only damage increase and 2x more shots.
@2slow2survive
3 ай бұрын
counts the miners as a building? or how it is possible that 2 destroyer are slower than 1 apo?
@TheValentineEnemy
2 жыл бұрын
Well that's cute, the performance of the tank destroyer vs. miners is kinda...bad...and not just against apocalypse tanks. I feel like they do no more damage to miners than a grizzly tank...that's alarming. And still questioning why elite units shoot at elite ones and not against rookies. Differences from promotions are much more visible there compared to green units...green as in not promoted ones.
@GreenElf
2 жыл бұрын
i know... it's odd.. i will do separate video for Destroyer to better undersand his damage i will integrate elite vs green in the next videos to
@cheezemang5010
2 жыл бұрын
TD vs apocalypse?
@BashirSensei
2 жыл бұрын
uNiT lOsT
@davidvarga2916
2 жыл бұрын
You compare apocalypse to destroyer by shooting down tanks, how about infantry units air units and buildings?
@Nod_Soldier
2 жыл бұрын
the nasty tank destroyer is better than the Apocalypse only for its faster reload time.
@csnation
2 жыл бұрын
But Apocs aren't just good against vehicles, they are great against buildings and more. Trying to use a TD to shoot infantry or a building is an utter waste of time. So solution? Mix TDs with grizzly for same cost XD
@magblacksix1268
Жыл бұрын
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@AxellMorren
2 жыл бұрын
How to BS Tank Destroyer: Use Infantry
@someguy5444
2 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that the coolest model for a tank is wasted on the trash stats of the tank destroyer, they should give it super long range.
@tikbalang9545
2 жыл бұрын
at least tank destroyers actually do their jobs well
@pinroshan020
2 жыл бұрын
Well at least in single player games. Try doin that in multiplayer. Kikematamitos never uses tank destroyers when he is playing against players.
@williamlennox9115
2 жыл бұрын
The tank destroyer is worthless.
@HoodLawyer4141
2 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but German tank useless unit in ra2. İm sure nobody use this tank with playing game
@HoodLawyer4141
2 жыл бұрын
Germany deserve better special character
@OurAntwan
2 жыл бұрын
The concept is great, kinda like the panzer 4 but can't rotate its turret, can be overrun but its main target, the rhino tank, cant kill inf or buildings and a couple of terror drones render them useless, not that expensive though all things considered.
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