De Niro is absolutely terrifying in this. Portrays a vile disgusting human and succeeds in making us despise him. One of the best of his entire career for sure
@ktk44man
10 ай бұрын
That alone is enough for me to want to watch this movie, I didn't think de niro would play a really great role again in his life lol. It seems like apart from working with Scorsese he just cared less in the past few decades
@stephanea5364
6 ай бұрын
He always make the same faces
@MetAlcboy
3 ай бұрын
@@stephanea5364It works though
@aaronrice4607
10 ай бұрын
I'm from Oklahoma and was forced to take Oklahoma History in high school and after seeing this, I was furious that neither the Osage Reign of Terror or the Tulsa Riots were even mentioned in class, an unbelievable disgrace.
@bbqbros3648
10 ай бұрын
Bruh I was taught the Tulsa thing in the 2000s in middle school
@fintan9218
10 ай бұрын
@@bbqbros3648 that was not something taught in middleschool, if you actually did great but I honestly suspect you didnt. Especially calling it the “Tulsa thing”.
@simonjenkin
10 ай бұрын
probably labelled "critical race theory" now and teachers get death threats if they dare teach it
@propertymanager9149
10 ай бұрын
why would they teach evil of whites
@DanielWebb-mb8wu
10 ай бұрын
It's because you live in a red State and the Republikkklans are doing all that they can to erase history and rewrite it so that they don't look so disgusting and despicable.
@Dethmaster64
10 ай бұрын
Martin Scorsese making almost only 3 hour long movies and all of them turning out great is such a late-career flex
@JjAnteros
10 ай бұрын
well, tbh theatrical films are now the longest they have ever been, and the trend stated in the 2010s thanks to Star Wars, Marvel, DC, etc, but i do prefer longer films, as long as they are worth the time invested, obviously, and no, i don't particularly care for Marvel, though, i have seen some Marvel films ofcourse, i mean seriously who hasn't at this point, unless u live off-grid as an Anarcho Primitivist lol
@mrconnor628
10 ай бұрын
@@JjAnterosproblem comes when you need to take a piss 😂😂
@user-dm2hr3qk9l
10 ай бұрын
This movie was great?🤥
@kasekula
10 ай бұрын
Movie was actually pretty weak . Great performances from the cast but I really think this movie fell a little flat due to Scorcese’s direction .
@bobcobb3654
10 ай бұрын
@@JjAnteros I doubt movies are currently the “longest they’ve ever been.” That would probably be 1955-1965. You had bible and history epics like “Ten Commandments,” “Ben Hur,” “Spartacus,” “Cleopatra,” “Greatest Story Ever Told” and “Lawrence of Arabia” all at well over 3 and, in some cases, 4 hours. Shoot, back then, even musicals clocked in at 3 hours.
@mjolninja9358
10 ай бұрын
One of the most amazing scenes was when the Mother had died and there were her ancestors and everything was quiet.
@steven4217
10 ай бұрын
That was pretty cool
@user-ik4kh9lt6d
9 ай бұрын
That was the best scene in the entire movie. And that’s saying a lot because the entire movie was great.
@EddieTheHorrorAddict
9 ай бұрын
My heart dropped. Pure cinema
@ViniciusThor
9 ай бұрын
Are you guys serious...? That scene and the owl scenes were the only actually great scenes of the movie... I am very confused, cause i see almost nothing that the critics acclaim it is. And i am very used to seeing slow paced, local accuracy and historical movies, i love them. For me, Oppenheimer did a way better job.
@steven4217
9 ай бұрын
@@ViniciusThor what??? Oppenheimer was dwarfed to this movie. The only thing that dominated Oppenheimer was close ups of Oppenheimer’s worried face with no narrative to offer the viewer any character insight. The movie often and quickly jumped from scene to scene with each scene leaving the viewer confused as to which time period is which. The characters were mono tone and boring with Matt Damon having one of the more interesting characters even though he was a very surface level character himself. The court room and interrogation scenes weren’t always easy to follow and the movie truly requires a second watch which is a shamed because I’m unwilling watch that boring 3 hour snore fest ever again.
@cordels.1179
10 ай бұрын
As a Native American viewer I love the fact that this story is being told at all, even more so when it’s done by a true artist
@user-bleach1256
10 ай бұрын
As non American never been to America , i find it very hypocrite of American liberals protesting over what is going on in the Middle East right now , when this same American liberals stole America from the native Americans
@GareBare90
10 ай бұрын
THIS!
@Sluglove
10 ай бұрын
As a Native American viewer this movie was kinda mid lmao
@YorgosL1
10 ай бұрын
@@Slugloveas someone not America it’s a masterpiece on 2nd viewing
@thiscorrosion900
10 ай бұрын
I’m not Native, and hadn’t known of this history before the last two years, but I’m glad Marty made this film. I think it’s a good film. I’ve read though that the book goes into much more detail on the Osage.
@yourdreams2440
10 ай бұрын
Oppenheimer, Killers of the Flower Moon, then later Napoleon. 2023 has been a surprisingly great year for movies, and a massive breath of fresh air from the past decade of Marvel/Disney dominance. I hope these films pave the way for a return to high quality, story driven, serious historical dramas. We desperately need authenticity in a sea of corporate, manufactured, lowest common denominator seeking media. Edit: I saw Napoleon and it was mediocre. I guess I rescind this comment. I hope hollywood will be better next year.
@loganwelty7094
10 ай бұрын
We also have Mann’s Ferrari coming Christmas Day!
@goodial
10 ай бұрын
Past Lives is another great one! The ones I’m really anticipating now are Poor Things, The Holdovers, Dream Scenario, Anatomy of a Fall, The Zone of Interest and Saltburn. People are saying good things about those. 2023 looks like it’s going to have been a great year for movies, despite some major setbacks mostly during summer …
@benmorgan9748
10 ай бұрын
A little worried about Napoleon, but agreed otherwise
@littleferrhis
10 ай бұрын
Apple movies is coming in hard with the Historical Dramas, in 2024 they got a sequel to Band of Brothers and the Pacific about B17 bomber crews.
@jacoblourie5248
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm very worried about Napoleon. Joaquins Phoenix's age really shows in the first part and I'm not sure how you can condense his whole life effectively in three hours. And Ridley Scott I just think is not the right filmaker to make it work. I'm glad we're getting a Napoleon miniseries later this or next year though. Wish we had gotten Kubrick's take @@benmorgan9748
@djstarsign
10 ай бұрын
Brandon Fraser’s performance was one of the only things that felt awkward. I think DiCaprio played the part perfectly in terms of a big, lazy, not so smart low life who gets lucky by having a powerful uncle and charming a wealthy wife. He’s pretty basic, only loves money, never wants to work for it, and he loves his wife. He’s a simpleton and he’s a loser, but he thinks he’s smarter than he is, so it was a nice change of pace seeing him being a weak character and not the smart, in control, troubled hero he normally plays.
@Lofouu
10 ай бұрын
Brenden Fraser caught me off guard every line he delivered sounds like him in The Whale
@YorgosL1
10 ай бұрын
@@Lofouuit was film after the whale
@Jordy666sic
10 ай бұрын
@@Lofouusame but it actually didn't bother me at all!
@damnmuggle
10 ай бұрын
@@LofouuI thought it fit the character lol
@neoinuyashafight
10 ай бұрын
I thought Brendan Fraser fit perfectly. He was playing a high powered lawyer for rich white people.
@rylymbona
10 ай бұрын
I've never had a chance to see a Martin Scorsese film in the cinema and God, I can't wait to see this one
@stevandslimproductions
10 ай бұрын
Saw it in imax today fucking unreal
@kend1964
10 ай бұрын
After this film, try to see Raging Bull in a theater....
@816twiggs
10 ай бұрын
saw it in imax on friday (it was my first Scorsese film in a cinema as well) and it's absolutely phenomenal
@robinstewart1066
10 ай бұрын
@@816twiggsI feel like I have to see new movies in IMAX every time now 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@natedk11
10 ай бұрын
@@816twiggs same for me - it capitvated me the whole way through and what an incredible performance by lily gladstone. Automatic lock for best actress.
@KircherTalksEntertainment
10 ай бұрын
Your comment about true crime stories being so manufactured and digestible makes the ending even more meaningful to me.
@FrankHernandez-mo5nr
10 ай бұрын
Yeah that's what I seem to get from the movie because at the end the performance explaining the tragic events for the crowds entertainment. Also mentions how mollie passed away with no mention of the tragic incidents
@alflemon2783
10 ай бұрын
I mean, the “Light my Lucky Strike” line was right there
@zd91
10 ай бұрын
The ending was spectacular. I was expecting a straightforward narrative, but this blew me away.
@tutumazibuko2510
8 ай бұрын
Nah it doesn't for me, it just made this whole period fit the exact mold of true crime stories
@whatwedoinyah1614
8 ай бұрын
@@FrankHernandez-mo5nrreminds me of the black mirror ending loch henry
@stephenshea7909
10 ай бұрын
The movie is the quickest 3.5 hours of my life. It’s surprisingly really fun and funny while also being incredibly heartbreaking and intense.
@MrJeffcoley1
10 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it but I found myself checking my watch. The pacing was slow and the movie would have been better with an hour less runtime.
@stephenshea7909
10 ай бұрын
@@MrJeffcoley1 ok cool. I would love to hear what you would’ve cut out cause I didn’t really feel like there was any bloat.
@bighawk16
10 ай бұрын
@@stephenshea7909every single scene was slow and drawn out from the very beginning. One of the first scenes with Leo and De Niro meeting is a perfect example. There was no need for the scene to be that long and it turned into the opposite of gripping
@OVHOEAubreythePedophileKing
10 ай бұрын
@@MrJeffcoley1The movie clearly wasn't made for you then. Best film of the year
@vitordslz
10 ай бұрын
@@MrJeffcoley1I felt the same. It dragged on a LOT. I feel like the whole plot wasnt too exciting. The osage never fight back, its just funeral and then another funeral scene..
@metaleg23
10 ай бұрын
Having been moved so deeply by the film, the ending caught me by surprise. It’s a big slap in the face (in the best way possible) and a wake up call on the trivialization and consumption of true crime.
@stephanea5364
6 ай бұрын
what was a slap in the face exactly?
@fromgreattobrilliant922
10 ай бұрын
I actually liked Brendan Frasers performance. He does a great job portraying a lawyer, and his gaslighting scene is very well executed. Almost like both concepts go hand-in-hand or something.
@Andrew94533
10 ай бұрын
I liked it I thought he overacted though
@aidyn5916
10 ай бұрын
I found him HILARIOUS. The first thing he did in court was intentionally throw a hissyfit to have it adjourned. Such a welcome and fitting piece of comedic relief in such a tragic story
@andrewwertz3335
10 ай бұрын
@@aidyn5916yeah lol the first shot of his screaming I DEMAND TO SEE MY CLIENT was so funny
@bigpictureguys8415
10 ай бұрын
Thought he was fine. If it wasn’t BF nobody would be complimenting it this much
@lovrocoki1205
10 ай бұрын
imo he was good but you could tell that he overreacted and tried so hard to stand out.
@tristanlecoz3311
10 ай бұрын
The flaw of the film was telling it from Ernest's point of view that he's the least interesting interesting of the lead characters, fairly one dimensional in his greed and stupidity.I would have preferred more time spent on mollie and the Osage community since they are the heart and of the story as well as the primary motivations behind everything that goes on in the film
@Michael-zg4ws
10 ай бұрын
I think a huge part of the film is Marty being self-aware about his limitations in telling such a story as he’s an old white man himself (I mean that fucking ending man). I think that goes well with Leo’s character being one dimensional and wholly unlikable. I totally understand your sentiment here, but I think Scorsese’s decision to really focus on the too little, too late aspect of it; and the awareness of how this story and many other like this are just boiled down to entertainment works. Feel like he was able to capture that better than a more holistic Osage experience, as that is literally impossible for him as a white person to do.
@aryavirsangwan6837
10 ай бұрын
It adds to the banality of evil theme in the movie. I wouldn’t have done it any other way.
@tristanlecoz3311
10 ай бұрын
@aryavirsangwan6837 it would have added even more to the evil theme if we had spent more time with the Osage and made their plight feel even deeper with the audience
@yourofficialrealtor1057
10 ай бұрын
Great point that I didn't even realize, the film is brilliant but absolutely would have appreciated the POV from the Osage Community.
@litothemanlapid
10 ай бұрын
I think too that a bit more of Mollie could have been put in this film BUT I think the film is about how Hale and Ernest, sadly. Their motivation and their evilness. One thing it tried is to remove the White Savior-y elements that is often criticized for this kind of film - which is why they focused towards the aforementioned men. Sadly, the book was about the FBI Agent . Apparently, Mollie is barely in the book - and was practically focusing in how the case was solved.
@nationalcoasternews5798
10 ай бұрын
I’m seeing this tomorrow, I cannot express the level of excitement I’m feeling. The fact that we get to see a brand new Martin Scorsese movie in theaters in 2023 just feels so unbelievably special. This man is probably the biggest champion of cinema alive today. So glad you loved it, makes me that much more pumped
@HeynowHeynowheynow
10 ай бұрын
You will not be disappointed.
@Dannynedelko_
10 ай бұрын
You will be disappointed
@MrFalcon2009
10 ай бұрын
Dont watch it its boring
@dkelly26666
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely great film.
@tjmackie4815
10 ай бұрын
Jimmy has autism. Trust me this film is amazing. The acting is incredible you forget you’re watching a film at times.
@Michael-cv5wk
10 ай бұрын
This film had some of the coolest editing I've ever seen.
@heimdal8
8 ай бұрын
Thelma Schoonmaker, man. She’s 83 years old but has a nerve and a vitality to her editing that just feels so cool. A true rock star.
@careem3463
8 ай бұрын
@@heimdal8everything makes sense now
@saracafiero4643
10 ай бұрын
I agree on pretty much everything. I was skeptical about its length at first, but as I was watching I understood why it is as long as it is, not only it gives scorsese all the time to tell this story like it deserves to be told, it makes it more effective because you’re soaking up this rotten and tense atmosphere and it’s terrifying. The ending was perfect. It’s definitely my favourite scorsese movie
@olecram207
10 ай бұрын
for me it felt like he didnt did a good pacing in the last arc. Also would've liked a different ending
@Zero-tm5xk
10 ай бұрын
The movie should have been from Mollie's perspective. Earnest was a moron and POS. Why does he deserve to be the main character?
@darbdarbgoose
10 ай бұрын
Exactly!! I agree with you 100%! Why is lazy and boring Ernest the main character?
@noniemousze
10 ай бұрын
TRUE. I was tiring to ride Ernest's brain for 3 hours. Painful
@thelastpepsi9369
10 ай бұрын
SPOILERS PLEASE WATCH THE MOVIE AND DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT SEEN THE ENDING Did not think the ending would hit me in the way that it did. Not that I wasn’t sad for the whole movie cause God it’s just brutal to even think about,but when Marty showed tf up,I kinda giggled at first but when he looked at the camera and talked about Mollie,I broke down dude. I was so immersed in the movie and the story and that moment broke the line between cinema and reality and in a very short instance,it all just crushed me,especially with the scene that follows of the tribe at the end that didn’t even take up the entirety of the frame. Completely agree with you,I’m gonna be thinking about this ending for a really long time
@Jordy666sic
10 ай бұрын
Felt exactly the same. The movie is rough at parts and it tells a really sad story. But it was that final part of the epilogue gave really struck me. Couldn't say a word when the credit rolled. Goosebumps from the moment Martin started talking. It felt really honest.
@jackcharlotte25
10 ай бұрын
I felt similarly about the ending. It threw me off at first, but once I got a grasp on it found it to be brilliant. Marty has certainly been guilty of simple text crawls when he gets to the end of his films Based On A True Story. So to do what he did here instead was not only really refreshing, but as you said a great way to tackle the true crime subject matter.
@absurdwordslearns
9 ай бұрын
i admired the acting of everyone the whole movie, but i distinctly remember thinking to myself so many times about how gladstonr deserved an oscar for the scene i was witnessing. it felt gritty and real, you lose yourself in it and forget that it's a movie, which is good because it's a real tragedy that hurt real people so i loved how mollies descent was slowly dragged on so we the audience, could feel that creeping feeling of distrust with her.
@JandoMorales
10 ай бұрын
The last half of Oppenheimer does feel slower but it gets better after multiple viewings. I find every minute of it riveting and actually wish it was a bit longer.
@filipgasic2642
10 ай бұрын
To me the second more political half was even more entertaining than making of the bomb
@JandoMorales
10 ай бұрын
@@filipgasic2642 I think I agree
@gusvalour
9 ай бұрын
It felt long but I didn't want it to end.
@dafae.
10 ай бұрын
I went into this movie not even reading the synopsis or knowing what the Osage Murders were. I didn't even know the movie was 3 and a half hours long that's how transfixed I was. I ended up going back and rewatching the movie twice because of how incredible it was.
@warowords
10 ай бұрын
Just saw it twice in 24 hours. Once on a standard screening and once in Dolby Cinema. I liked the smaller screen for this film and I felt the length was perfect. If it had an intermission, I would of sat for another 3 hrs. Its a great film ,it really sticks with you.
@careem3463
8 ай бұрын
Seems like you have a lot of free time
@Planet_Perfume
10 ай бұрын
As an indigenous person, I wish they made Molly the main character but I feel like a movie like this does need to exist
@chaosofthegalaxy3094
10 ай бұрын
Same, I think an even split between her and Ernest’s pov could have been done while keeping what Scorsese was going for.
@DRMZBeatz
10 ай бұрын
For what reason when most of the movie she was sick and in bed damn there immobile. There wouldn’t be much to tell from her perspective. We definitely do need a story told from the side of the indigenous people during these time. Just this story wouldn’t have worked being told that way.
@apollocobain8363
10 ай бұрын
She IS the main character. The story is about the betrayal of her love and trust. SHE is the one who sends for the FBI, etc. She is the one asking what was in those injections at the end.
@avillianchillinskrillian
10 ай бұрын
@@apollocobain8363 They are talking about screen time not "the importance of their actions to the plot. We needed more of her perspective. A filmmaker could show a side character for 5 seconds and they encapsulate the theme and dramatically change the story at the same time, doesn't mean we "explored" that character as much as others. That difference impacts the story.
@noniemousze
10 ай бұрын
Maybe well have version with mollies pov in the future
@Bayuuk
10 ай бұрын
I actually really liked the kind of self-aware ending, that it works a lot, especially with the people in that sequence. I love the last sequence between Ernest and Molly, Molly's emotions were palpable it was insane. Leo actually does do some intense overacting, but his performance was very reminiscent of Wolf for me.
@ComedyBros5
10 ай бұрын
Intense overacting?
@jj-if6it
10 ай бұрын
It was absolutely nothing like WOWS lol
@Bayuuk
10 ай бұрын
@@jj-if6it I’m not saying they’re the same character, I’m saying he definitely was putting about as much effort, which is a LOT and it was noticeable.
@jj-if6it
10 ай бұрын
@@Bayuuk I thought he was more subtle. WOWS is a big performance
@stephanea5364
6 ай бұрын
Leo with his sad emoji face all movie long was ridiculous LOL
@adamnorthwood1673
10 ай бұрын
It feels like such a privilege to be able to watch a Scorsese film wth Deniro and Leo in a movie theatre
@originaozz
10 ай бұрын
I literally watch the video, pause when you talk about the ending, then walk to theater, and now I'm back. I did not understand the significance of the ending until your discussion. It makes an already depressing movie even more devastating. Not only did the Osage got their land stolen, but even their narrative. Martie appearance only hits the point all the more. What a legend.
@Comporio
10 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly, those 3 and a half hours flew by quicker than Oppenheimer in my non educated opinion.
@Spl0nk
10 ай бұрын
Not a bad thing but for me it was the complete opposite, both amazing movies with strengths and weaknesses, but KOTFL felt very slow in comparison to Oppenheimer
@Comporio
10 ай бұрын
@@Spl0nkTo elaborate, I would say that oppenheimer fell slow towards the end but KOTFM was consistently the same pace which for me made it easier.
@DrGandW
10 ай бұрын
Both movies have strong enough 3rd acts to carry when the movie feels long but I definitely felt Killers length more because when Oppenheimer hits that final part it shift a lot more and almost feels like you started something new, although with Oppenheimer I knew it was that long well on advance, with Flower Moon I found out at the theater, I think the difference in preparation definitely changed things
@rocketsfan6116
10 ай бұрын
I couldn't disagree about the pace, especially in comparison to Oppenheimer. This film was too quiet and seemed to just plod along.
@capnbug
10 ай бұрын
First movie ive ever went on my own to watch. I didnt have any context going in and im not a kino head, so it was quite an experience
@nataliep6385
10 ай бұрын
It was about 3 years ago that I tried going to the cinema alone, and it is such a good experience. I was surprised tbh.. Because it is so cliché to go together to see a movie. But now I actually prefer to get stoned and go to the cinema alone.
@have345
10 ай бұрын
This was the hardest watch of my life, the end gutted me, I love how the trailers were used against me, I unknowingly was wanting a white savior movie which exposed my internalized racism as a black man, I can’t express how this movie is burned in my brain
@nichobee
9 ай бұрын
Stop torturing yourself! You don't have internalised racism. Don't listen to activists who want to fix the world by making it burn.
@miloa.2684
10 ай бұрын
Amazing film. What a story put together so incredibly well to the big screen by Martin Scorsese. I do feel the last hour or so was a little slow for me and felt a tiny bit dragged out and the initial falling in love of the two character of Mollie and Ernest felt a tiny bit rushed but those are my only complaints of the movie. Amazing performances all around, gorgeous cinematography, a disturbing story that’s told and put together incredibly well. Highly recommend.
@jmb825
10 ай бұрын
After seeing this, i think this is a movie everyone should try to go out and see in theaters. despite the run time, I honestly felt like it flew by and kept me engaged for its entirety. much shorter movies drag on more imo. Ive learned so much and researched even more after seeing it bc the sad truth is that this is an important part of history that is not really taught in classrooms. happy this was made
@sophiaisabelle01
10 ай бұрын
Killers of the Flower Moon is a staggering three-hour watch featuring none other than Leonardo DiCaprio. There isn't one this man can't do.
@reginaldstyles9549
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely Amazing Performance ☺️🙏💗
@justinwest5166
10 ай бұрын
I’ve listened to the audio book ab a week before I saw it yesterday and the ending is actually mentioned in the book quite a few times as they say that once the killings settled down they started doing exactly what occurred at the end of the film.
@Cuffers93
10 ай бұрын
I went and saw this today in IMAX. It's not the kind of film which I was enormously enthusiastic about while watching it but then after the ending I could appreciate the whole thing for what it was. This film feels special in a way very few films do. This is proper cinema. Would pick this over Oppenheimer for the Best Picture. Also, Lily Gladstone - wow! When you said 'If the movie is good the ending should feel like when the actual movie starts' I could not agree more. It took me a bit by surprise and I too was very affected by it and haven't been able to stop thinking about it either. This is a gem that is better than people may first realise and has high rewatch value as a result - although I may wait a while to do that given the runtime!
@leonhardolo
10 ай бұрын
You didnt mention it, but i thought Jesse Plemons acting was outstanding imo!!
@PastPerspectives3
10 ай бұрын
Yeah he’s great
@TheSurprisePig
10 ай бұрын
he always kills it
@YorgosL1
10 ай бұрын
Uh Daniel ligrow
@Cinemahguy
10 ай бұрын
ALWAYS!!!
@mptr1783
10 ай бұрын
actually thought all of the "lesser" actors were great, including the "hitmen". Very unique characters
@ihateallthethings2683
10 ай бұрын
This movie seemed like a slam dunk as a long time fan of this dudes work. Can’t wait to see it. I dropped a big penny on a 75 inch wall mount smart tv with a sound bar set up with a subwoofer totaling out around 2600 😂 I built my dream set up for movies like this
@user-wk1ij1kv6s
10 ай бұрын
Smart
@jj-if6it
10 ай бұрын
Haha our audience was laughing the whole time Brendan was on screen. It just stood out so much compared to everyone else's performance and the tone of the film
@scott.chappell
10 ай бұрын
Personally I felt the pacing was awful 🤷♂️ It only begun picking up steam for me once Jesse Plemons character showed up but even that quickly dwindled De Niro was a highlight, loved the setting I don’t think this movie would be getting such high praise if Scorsese wasn’t attached Movie was forgettable and found dialogue way too exposition-y and/or drawn out I feel like the ‘movie’ would have worked better if it had a greater mystery element, I don’t really care if that isn’t meant to be “the point” of the story that was being told. If anything the story would have worked better as a limited series and I probably would have enjoyed it more if it was longer but broken up into chunks “It insists upon itself”
@thomasricher1414
10 ай бұрын
The ending (imo) feels like the ending of No Country for Old Men, but with a climax. But also, the absence of climax in No Country is kind of the point of the movie. Which is why I found the ending of Killers a bit of a let down.
@Saulgud23
10 ай бұрын
I think this movies ending works better with a climax and resolution to the story of the Osage. Closure is a point of this movie. It is the essence of what the movie is trying to be.
@rpemulis
10 ай бұрын
that rocks, no country for old men's ending is one of my favorites of all time and what got me to read all of mccarthy's novels.
@djstarsign
10 ай бұрын
It reminded me a little of Asteroid City (and I mean just a tiny bit). I loved the audacity of that choice. 💪
@yourofficialrealtor1057
10 ай бұрын
Funny that you mentioned No Country For Old Men as it had Gene Jones who was part of the great coin flip scene and was also in this movie
@alexandersosa3490
10 ай бұрын
This was the best movie I’ve seen in at least a couple years. Absolutely incredible.
@sebcubille
10 ай бұрын
i think the beginning montage where the native americans are being a gunned down was so scary cuz its using the same scorsese-esque montage of people getting cleanly assassinated, but unlike his other movies here the victims are completely innocent, kind of like how irishman aped some of the style of goodfellas but in a completely different context
@SteveDCM
10 ай бұрын
At first, my heart sank when he said “I have a lot of thoughts.”
@sodajoke348
10 ай бұрын
I don't mean to disrespect people's desire to see the Osage perspective, but I couldn't disagree more about the suggestion. The movie is about the monumental gulf in the humanity of invasive white people. It's about the crocodile tears and the simultaneously calculated and oblivious nature of ideological evil, racism and colonialism. The Osage people deserved more, but the movie cannot illustrate the sheer terror and complexity of true evil through the victim's eyes. Again, it's not about saying no to representation, but you CANNOT have this movie at full power through any other lens.
@sarahinsf
10 ай бұрын
I appreciate your thoughts but I am left wondering why you think the movie "cannot illustrate the sheer terror and complexity of true evil through the victim's eyes" and it would not be at "full power" unless told from the white viewpoint? Because the director is white? Because most of the audience is probably white? Not being sarcastic, btw! I imagine audiences identify the most with characters who look like them, but to me (mostly white European but part Stockbridge Indian too), I was really hyped up to see this film, but after, I felt like the Osage had been pushed to the background to highlight the two famous white stars, and it lost a lot of its power because of that, imho.
@wyaakk
10 ай бұрын
I am usually the world's biggest long film defender, however I do genuinely think this film was just too long. Really, I think is is partially because the middle hour fell flat with cinematography. It opens amazingly, it closes brilliantly. But the middle section just doesn't fly by OR draw me in. Looking forward to my second viewing, but won't be jumping for a third.
@MarcSkow
10 ай бұрын
If I say it was a little slow for me, I’m going to feel as an uncultured person who doesn’t appreciate good cinema and needs the constant stimulation that modern movies like Marvel provide. That being said, it felt a little slow to me.
@JustoBlondo
10 ай бұрын
I did feel like Leo was being “Leo” for this role so if he gets an Oscar for THIS, it will be much like when Jamie Lee Curtis won it last year. Lily & De Niro are the lay ups here, not Leo with an accent lol
@corinablanco7500
10 ай бұрын
Agree, we all know that Leo is one of the best actors of our generation, but I'm gonna be mad if this year's Oscar is not for Cilian or Joaquin Phoenix.
@JustoBlondo
10 ай бұрын
@@corinablanco7500 I’ve been all in on Cillian since the moment he got on screen as Oppenheimer lol
@MrJeffcoley1
10 ай бұрын
I just watched this movie in the theater. Scorsese could have cut an hour from the runtime and ended up with a better movie. It drags for about the first two and a half hours but then picks up pretty well in the last hour and a half.
@andrewlaxton50
10 ай бұрын
Masterpiece or mess? Are those the only 2 options for movies now?
@VictorDiGiovanni
10 ай бұрын
When you're Scorsese and you shoot for "masterpiece" every time and you repeatedly turn your nose up at Marvel movies, and all of your fans blindly declare every film you make a masterpiece, then yes, these are the options for this film. It comes with the territory when you're Scorsese, Spielberg, Nolan, Tarantino, and Boll.
@ryanhopkins5239
10 ай бұрын
@VictorDiGiovanni hard disagree We live in age of hyperbole with no subtlety in the discussion. It just stupid.
@VictorDiGiovanni
10 ай бұрын
@@ryanhopkins5239 as my response was harshly sarcastic, I think you actually mean to say you fully AGREE with me, lol. Yes. all movies are subjective, and each viewers subjective response to a film will be subjectively different based on a host of individual factors. I support any opinion of a film so long as it starts off with "My opinion of the film is...." as opposed to "This film definitively IS xyx."
@alecseptien
10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the story but I felt like without a proper narrator, this film lacked the psychological breakdown that makes films like Goodfellas and The Irishman work. Like some of the decisions that Ernest made needed more context to them. I agree Leo is good but the other two stand out way more.
@dustinbarton2337
10 ай бұрын
That's the point. The context is entirely up to you.
@alecseptien
10 ай бұрын
@@dustinbarton2337 since writing this review i rewatched this movie twice and I completely changed my opinion on the film. I think it’s up there as one of Scorsese’s best
@moonskeetz
10 ай бұрын
I really had an issue with how oblivious the Osage were. This wouldn't have been that big of a deal had Hale not preface the people as a "very wise group that doesn't speak much" group at the beginning of the movie.
@Coulshed
10 ай бұрын
1:56 wait wait wait wait wait, "check your phone"? Don't tell me. No. You wouldn't. Commit the cardinal sin of not turning your phone off and checking it during the movie, no, surely there must be a reasonable explanation for this, no this can't be.
@alexiamoreland992
9 ай бұрын
Attorney here. I'm not sure why people took issue with Brendan Fraser's performance. The way he spoke and presented himself was accurate for a trial attorney even today.
@bighawk16
10 ай бұрын
A good story does not make a good film! Had a lot of potential but there was no need for this to be a 3 1/2 hour movie. Every scene was drawn out and it felt like the ending would never come. This would be a decent movie to watch at home but I wouldn’t suggest torturing yourself in a movie theatre for this long
@benmorgan9748
10 ай бұрын
I COMPLETELY agree about Leo. It was fine but nothing more. I’m not sure if it’s more due to way the character was written or the performance itself (I plan to rewatch it), but I wish Ernest wrestled more with what he was doing. I get that he’s supposed to be this idiot who blindly follows his uncle but it felt like a bit of a caricature by the end.
@steven4217
10 ай бұрын
I agree that Ernest was truly a dummy in this movie- extremely gullible, weak, and not much of a critical thinker
@benmorgan9748
10 ай бұрын
@@steven4217Yeah, exactly. It’s hard for me to distinguish whether it was Leo’s acting or Scorsese’s direction, but either way, I wish there was a little more nuance to show that he was capable of critical thought.
@steven4217
10 ай бұрын
@@benmorgan9748 I think there should have been more internal conflict between Ernest and his Uncle. I found it problematic that Ernest, without question or compromise, just allowed himself to be involved in the murders and scams without questioning or picking a fight with his uncle about it. I would have liked to see Ernest’s back against the wall in regards to staying moral yet wanting riches. Ernest was just too gullible and easily manipulated in this film when it would have been entertaining with the audience to see Ernest come to his moral senses at least once or twice throughout the film
@user-friendly-b6q
10 ай бұрын
I think it was overlong, repetitive and redundant.
@GiantSandles
10 ай бұрын
I can understand not liking it but I don’t see how it could be considered a mess, it doesn’t seem like at any point the film was unclear in what it was getting at or what was happening
@NineOneOneFx
10 ай бұрын
I love Leo, but he was miscast on this one. Sam Rockwell would have been FANTASTIC on that role! That said, Lily Gladstone is OUTSTANDING! OSCAR nomination for sure!
@JuneFail
10 ай бұрын
Although I thought Leo was pretty good in this role, Sam Rockwell would be fucking amazing in this one!
@mptr1783
10 ай бұрын
great post
@carlao7157
10 ай бұрын
I agree with all you comments, except overall i think the movie was just okay. I could not say i enjoyed it
@HardestTargett
10 ай бұрын
I feel like I’m the only person who absolutely didn’t enjoy this movie. At first I felt there must be something wrong with me. But I realize it’s the world these days, and the quality of movies that all of you are used to that is wrong.
@BigKarl519
10 ай бұрын
Performances from Cara Jade Myers (Anna), William Belleau (Henry Roan) and especially the non-actor Osage like Everett Waller (Paul Red Eagle) were particularly outstanding.
@dkelly26666
10 ай бұрын
Also, no one has been mentioning Tatanka Means. He is cool as hell in the last third of this.
@BigKarl519
10 ай бұрын
@@dkelly26666 Hell yeah, and a hunk. I'm straight as a arrow but that man maybe one of the most attractive men in America. He's also a really funny standup comedian, check him out if you haven't.
@pk-cp1bo
10 ай бұрын
Tatanka Means is a hottie.
@hollymccormack4081
4 ай бұрын
@@dkelly26666 The son of Russell Means! I didn't make that connection until now. He was great in the movie; subtle but still had a presence that stood out from the crowd.
@mrink8822
10 ай бұрын
Now that's cinema
@sullivandmitry1416
10 ай бұрын
Ernest was the best person to center the movie on because he’s the only character that’s even close to being lukewarm in his reasonings. He was an idiot, he was full blown stupid and seemingly was convinced by his blood family that what he was doing was somehow good. It played to the concept that these “halfbreeds” don’t deserve their money and somehow he was doing what was needed for the good of “his people” while also still protecting the woman he loved. He was so blinded by “being a soldier” that he just never really questioned the things he was doing enough to make a choice to stop. You feel bad for him in a pathetic way and just think “what a sad fucking sack of shit. Fuck that guy.”
@Keenonhang
10 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see it. Scorsese is a true master of cinema and I’ve long adored his filmmaking style. The editing, cinematography etc. Just how his films look and m feel are unlike anyone else. Any new films we get from him at this late stage of his career are a blessing and must be totally cherished before he is gone.
@Wahlrusberg
9 ай бұрын
I heard so much about Fraser before the movie that I was surprised when I got to his scene. Big man goes big for a few seconds, it didn't feel out of place in that context. Lawyers can be extremely theatrical.
@isaacninan5053
10 ай бұрын
my only gripe with the movie was that they showed how Mollie was being poisoned. Now imagine if they didn’t explicitly show it…that ending scene would’ve hit a lot harder imo
@Dorian_Gray682
10 ай бұрын
I guess you should have made it instead of Scorsese
@asellandrofacchio7263
10 ай бұрын
No it wouldn't. Mollie helplessly accepting her slow death was symbolic for the Osage's history. Are you retraded?
@mrfilmreview8361
10 ай бұрын
I thought the movie was quite boring, but maybe that's just me. For me personally I think a lot of the events are dragged out and the beginning is much better than the end.
@patrickmitchell4134
10 ай бұрын
It’s just you.
@mrfilmreview8361
10 ай бұрын
@@patrickmitchell4134 nah it isn't heard of lots of others also.
@jayjunnarkar5420
10 ай бұрын
Can't wait for this movie. I'm definitely looking forward to watching this. Big fan of Scorsese movies, so it's right up my alley.
@mrb6309
7 ай бұрын
Scorsese has never disappointed me. I've seen all his films and if he wants me to sit down for 24 hours and watch a film, I'll do it out of respect. !!! BOOM !!!
@QuestionsIAskMyself
10 ай бұрын
You and I had so many similar thoughts, I felt the exact same way about Leo's and Lilys acting, and I also loved the very first and very end scenes of the film. I thought I was going to cringe at the end, but it was great, however the beginning of the film having the men dance in oil was perfection to me
@MrAceospades25
10 ай бұрын
He shoulda cut 45-55 min of the movie and progressed the story a little faster, I fux with Scorcese so I watched it 7.5 out of 10
@mastersonogashira1796
10 ай бұрын
This story could be told with 2 hrs. It seems like a weird flex rather than a masterpiece
@Sultan-cf5wf
10 ай бұрын
My only critique of the movie is that Lily Gladstone should have been the focus of the film rather than DiCaprio or De Niro. Scorsece focusing on DiCaprio makes DiCaprio feel like a protagonist when he's clearly the villain in the story.
@steven4217
10 ай бұрын
lol he was poisoning his wife the whole film, robbed banks, and hired hit men. I don’t see how one can possibly feel he’s a protagonist in anyway
@vitordslz
10 ай бұрын
I didnt like it. I was super excited to see it, loved the trailers. But for me, who was not born on the US and have no context about the crime they commited against the native people in their history, It didnt feel as heavy as it should. Regardless, I felt like the plot was too repetitive, and it never gave a chance for the osage to fight back, maybe because it was based on true facts, but it was just boring seeing a massacre + funeral happening for 3 hours. The victims were never close to the truth until the very end, and at the end, they didnt even get a propper revenge scene with the villains, not talking about violence, but there wasnt even a good line delivery at the end, from them.
@emiliomonroy7929
9 ай бұрын
The ending is pretty damn good, Scorsese always nails the end of his movies but this one was one of the most uniques in his entire career
@Jas93Productions
10 ай бұрын
Can’t help but feel robbed because at my theater during every quiet impactful scene you could hear taylor swift blaring through the wall.
@steven4217
10 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry
@CalliAMusic
10 ай бұрын
LMAOOO
@aidyn5916
10 ай бұрын
I honestly did not like the ending. I really feel like it killed the tension and completely glossed over the divorce. If the romance and the conflict in it is the focus of your movie, I feel like you need to give the breakup proper focus
@djstarsign
10 ай бұрын
My experience when watching the film. It keeps unfolding and as it begins to take shape, so many little side incidents and characters are introduced. Even though it takes place in a small town, the settings are always changing, new characters keep appearing, and it feels gradual instead of overwhelming (my major complaint about Oppenheimer was that it packs too much without giving us time to breathe). There is nothing slow or tedious. There’s a looming tension that gradually builds. There are horrifically violent aspects of the film as well as unexpected moments that are comedic without being silly. Scorsese knows how to slowly pull you in, hit you with an unexpected “wtf was that!?!” scene, slow things down and take you on a left turn so masterfully that I was more than happy to go on this ride. I liked The Irishman but I didn’t love it. I respected its craft and there were some great scenes, but overall, it just didn’t land. This one did. It seems like he fine tuned what he was aiming for and just knocked it out of the park. Because it’s so engaging, because it’s simmering with an uncanny quality that nobody is to be trusted and that anyone is expendable, it reminded me of that feeling after the Lufthansa heist in Goodfellas where everything begins to crumble and you’re not sure how it’s going to play out but you know it’s not going to end well. This was superior filmmaking from the tone, the cast, the supporting players, the little breadcrumbs sprinkled throughout the film, and the music. Amsterdam, the David O Russell film from last year felt like an ambitious project that was fine, it here, you see a similar ambitious period piece and it feels more confident and more finely tuned. I also liked that it was a more elegant, more subdued version of Scorsese that feels more lingering as opposed to his usually kinetic style (obviously, he’s been able to make these kind of movies before, but they tend to be overlooked by his faster paced crime films). This was so good it reminded of watching There Will Be Blood and feeling like a new way to tell a story set in that time period was presented to us and it was excellent.
@Kanawanu
10 ай бұрын
When you get to the point and realise that Bil Smith is disgusted at Ernest for the low life he is and how he recognizes that his presence is destroying the life of his 1st and 2nd wife it really made me rethink my bias from the start. His ending also is painful, yelling, hurting and cursing those who killed them.
@StormingSheep
10 ай бұрын
Great review, i echo your opinion on Leo being the weakest of the main actors, I often feel like Di Caprio is a fairly limited actor who is elevated by the screenplay/director and those around him. He does well in the movie but a big part of it is due to how well supported he is.
@mathieuleader8601
10 ай бұрын
I loved Martin's little cameo at the radio series recording
@DanielRios-vy4ct
10 ай бұрын
I thought also did everything he needed to do and more. He had a big task in this movie and I think he absolutely delivers
@nishchaldayal419
10 ай бұрын
I don't know if you would be open to watch a movie in Assamese (a language spoken in North East India), but a great recommendation would be the movie 'Aamis or The Ravening'. The movie is a romance and please do not read about the movie before watching it. A must watch. Btw love your videos!
@DanielWillen
10 ай бұрын
Agree mostly with all the points. For me it was entertaining and an 8/10. I would develop some plot points differently, and I was expecting pure chaos and conflict crashing down at specific points which never came about in the way I anticipated.
@dominiqueyazzi4829
10 ай бұрын
Would have liked for the movie to be from more of the Osage perspective. It didn’t do the tribe justice at all.
@shanekajohnson1320
10 ай бұрын
I think they should have saved the complicity of Leo’s character for a big reveal at the end.
@kkeelty64
10 ай бұрын
100% mess. Too long by an hour. It literally has characters telling us what we saw them do earlier in the movie. Hard pass.
@Dandandandandy
10 ай бұрын
Pacing was so great ! KFM over Oppenheimer because of that reason
@prawiraagung4011
10 ай бұрын
they both sucked paint 2023 with owen wilson is better
@therantingboy
7 ай бұрын
I actually found the music distracting and didn't think it worked.
@shadowbetrayer_1014
10 ай бұрын
I actually found Dicaprio’s performance much weaker than you’re pointing it out to be. I don’t think this is one of his best performances, not even close and I don’t know how some critics really think it is. Most people and moviegoers mistake the densely written character with the charisma an actor illuminates but that certainly shouldn’t be the case here. Dicaprio spends atleast a good chunk of an hour and 30 minutes grunting and mumbling which left me constantly confused what to think of his character at the end of all this. Is he emotionally distanced? Is he emotionally contradictory? Is he mentally retarted? I really don’t know man, the way Dicaprio approached the character was very weird and I felt that he himself felt very confused with the material and acting like this. He may not have understood the assignment completely or the emotional angles and state of the character. You can see that the character is lowkey scared for his family’s safety and loves them but at the same time acts like a cold hearted criminal against his own wife and family because he follows his uncle’s (Robert De Niro) orders just like he used to in the army, however Leo just can’t find any middle ground or emotional complexity between both alter egos and whenever he says he’s feeling “guilty” towards the end, you just can’t see that in his eyes or face - instead you feel like he is discomforted the whole time. Especially during the courtroom scene, Scorcese spends a good chunk of 10 minutes focusing the camera on his face while he is saying the full truth about the murders - which I don’t get the point of because there is literally nothing on his face not even a lack of remorse or contradictory feelings of guilt, he just grunts the whole time which left me very confused about the closure of his character which is a shame because I saw so much potential going in as he was great in the opening hour or so and the character’s motivations and contradicting nature are very dense. I don’t think Dicaprio or Scorcese ever explored that dynamic which was crucial to the character and the movie itself.
@lastrockgod
10 ай бұрын
Well to me that was the whole point of his character… he didn’t feel guilty at all, he just tried to save his own life and marriage by admitting parts of the truth… He didn’t love his wife, he believed he did but all his actions point to him actually not caring for her… he chose to be an opportunistic and selfish idiot… And by telling the story from his perspective we can clearly deduce that the parts about their marriage are probably shown through rose tinted glasses…
@DarylAddison-xo5zq
10 ай бұрын
Mess! I went to sleep. Couldn’t follow along with all the twist and turns
@o.l4890
10 ай бұрын
My criticism for it is that it follows the same rhythm Scorsese goes for in all his crime movies. The introduction to the world , the rise , the ruler of everything, things falling apart, the end with separated families and strained relationships.
@LycanVisuals
10 ай бұрын
Having read the book, I left very satisfied.
@JediMindTrix420
10 ай бұрын
Your Di Caprio cover looks like he’s doing his best Slingblade impersonation.
@vrnja1090
10 ай бұрын
Idk if it's first impression, but this might be my favorite Scorsese piece. Breathtaking story!
@risingsonfilms
10 ай бұрын
Just got out of the theater this was a master class of a movie on story telling. I was glued to the screen.
@oldhollywoodangels
10 ай бұрын
To me there was a problem with the angle he chose. I think it should've been solely from the Osage's perspective. And perhaps use a narrator/voice to make it more compelling too. Should've added more context as well, and it could've been told in less than 3 hours which would force him to make each scene matter. Because I noticed that something would happen, and then we'd get a long scene that I'm sorry but is too drawn out, and kills the momentum of the previous scene
@Ckproduction03
10 ай бұрын
They made an entire scene about him being handed the gun after the blown “fake suicide” scene and it never once comes up. There’s multiple scenes that “hint” at things to don’t come to fruition. All of these should have been cut to shorten the run time
@oldhollywoodangels
10 ай бұрын
Oh yes I remember, it was pretty interesting, but then it stopped once again. Same as when Mollie talks about how she suspects and hates every white man she sees now, very interesting scene, then the next scene kills the momentum. It goes on like this the entire movie. Not sure we need a long scene of native americans taking family portraits either. And to flesh out the characters u'd need to focus on Mollie much more than on Leo's character. Their love also has to be believable, so you'd have to show the complexities of them being together with much more scenes, some with love some with tension and suspicions. We need to understand as the audience, how Mollie got poisoned by him and did not suspect him. How? Why? Context. We need to know more about the investigation of the murders. More scenes with the FBI, more context. I'd even suggest to not even tell us who did it until the very end@@Ckproduction03
@pietropietro5466
10 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you, I also add two things: 1) Most of the main characters are evil and idiot, so their dialogs weren't particularly interesting and most of the time you were waiting for De Niro or Gladstone's character to hear something smart among all that. 2) the fact that the natives perspective wasn't the focus made them look like fools sometimes, which I honestly don't think they were. It was explained they became rich and powerful, how did nobody understand who was the only person benefiting from the killings and instead invited him at their gatherings?
@joegibbskins
10 ай бұрын
@@Ckproduction03it comes up. The dude took the gun because he was done with this and felt horrible about killing his friend, who he couldn’t bring himself to shoot in the face and as a result the “suicide” becomes an obvious murder. It thematically works in that it shows how hard it is to get close to someone just to kill them which is what Ernest and Hale are doing with a lot more ease; and it works in that it’s another sign that Hale’s whole enterprise is getting out of control and more obvious. It’s going to get attention outside Indian country and Hale and co aren’t equipped to deal with that
@joegibbskins
10 ай бұрын
@@pietropietro5466because Hale was operating at a remove and meanwhile investing in the community. He was playing a long con and had even put up his own money to investigate the killings. The Osage also weren’t allowed to handle their own money, so it made sense financially for them to marry a white who could. Even if you suspect that white are killing Osage for their money, you are marrying an individual and assume you know them. Ernest was up front that he was into Molly partially for her money, which allowed Molly to trust him. I do think the movie should have centered the Osage more, but some of the complaints in this thread are just people not knowing how to follow basic plot points
@miguelrosado6348
10 ай бұрын
I am fresh out of the film and unfortunately I am one of the spectators who actually felt time passing by. I felt there were entire sequences that were purely plot driven and not meaningful to the story, and took too much time to unravel. I do agree that Di Caprio's performance is flawed and it hurts the love story. The submission to his uncle is not fully fleshed out and the character does not act as dumb as Di Caprio plays him.
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